/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

fucking whores

>>42161052
what fucking chart you stupid faggot, where's the medians, where's the averages, they got 2 good streams and they're armies now? what the fuck are you talking about
show me the fucking numbers, isn't this the numbers thread, this whole shit is about your fucking feelings
if they get sub 10k streams and don't have at least 20k+ medians, they don't count, end of the fucking discussion

>>42161078
>What is Mocopi? Is that a new Cover tech?
Sony tech. 500 bucks good enough replacement for the high thousands system currently used for accurate home 3D.

Here is Nene showcasing it. It's not the same as the studio but better than Home3D

>>42161079
The vtuber industry in China is dying, people are asking to bring Hololive back. With how desperate B2 has been, they will eventually beg Cover and Yagoo for that piece of the pie again.

>>42161118
Recent clip numbers
>>42093864
>>42093881
>>42093908
>>42093978
>>42093952
>>42094445

Nice graph, good race, too bad its not for gold

/#/ is declining

I'm starting to think that Marine and Suisei are bigger than Pekora

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>44,090: Pekora (Hololive)
>21,938: Koyori (Hololive)
>18,961: Korone (Hololive)
>18,328: Lui (Hololive)
>16,934: Kanata (Hololive)
>16,639: Chloe (Hololive)
>16,530: Met (774 inc)
>15,940: Towa (Hololive)
>15,414: Patra (774 inc)
>14,821: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,366: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,655: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,313: Ema (VSPO)
>12,864: Ayame (Hololive)
>12,630: Botan (Hololive)
>10,677: Warabe (Noripro)
>10,417: Nene (Hololive)
>10,252: Sana (Indie)
>10,156: Kanae (Nijisanji)

It's the start of the month, watch out for the usual Youtube "subs sweep", when it starts going backwards for anyone without enough intake to beat the ones being culled

>>42161154
Yes I do fuck my wives and they act like whores when I do them

What's happening on tuesday?

>gen3 collab 1hr waiting
>1.5k waiting
>suisei TFT premiere 3hrs
>4k waiting
Golden gen...

>>42161169
Why is Sony helping Hololive and not Nijisanji?

>>42161228
>FINAL JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr
10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance
17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan
18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims
19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream
20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 59,617 - Apex CR cup
22) Toya (Nijisanji) - 53,947 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Leos
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 39,786 - Cooking stream
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,726 - Minecraft
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,769 - Viewer room reviews
26) Suisei (Hololive) - 54,206 - New hairstyle reveal
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,333 - GeoGuessr tournament w/Nene, Subaru & Noel
28) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 76,524 - Project Sekai tournament
29) Marine (Hololive) - 52,005 - Minecraft
30) Polka (Hololive) - 58,834 - 3D birthday live
31) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,090 - Minecraft

>PER COMPANY
23x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
14x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Towa
1x: Hololive, Koyori, Marine, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Polka, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

>>42161161
Yeah it stupid to continue to your bait

>>42161208
Too early for Holo vs. Holo. Better luck next time!

>>42161173
The problem with going back into the china market is that you let bugs into the house, you don't want bugs in your comfy house do you?

>>42161243
IT IS NOT A COLLAB

>>42161271
reply in english next time or don't bother

>>42161265
>2023 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
25x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
7x: Miko
4x: Pekora
3x: Marine
2x: Korone, Nijisanji, Suisei
1x: Akari, Choco, Elira, Ina, Koyori, Lamy, Luna, Sophia, Sora, Towa, Toya

>2023 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
11x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
6x: Miko
3x: Subaru
2x: Korone, Kuzuha, Marine, Nijisanji, Pekora
1x: Choco, Hayato, Hibari, Iroha, Kanata, Koyori, Meruto, Noel, Selen, Sukoya, Toru, Voltaction

Is IRyS the best HoloEN?

>>42161258
Anyone can use it

>>42161312
Fauna and Mumei are better

>>42161243
Not Collab,it announcement for a gen 3 project after illustrations stream

>>42161208
Stupid fucking statement marine dosent streme anywhere near as pekora to make a fair comparison and pekora is far more consistent in numbers, suisei is bigger if you compare her music carrier which dosent make sense

>>42161208
>Suisei
No.
Marine is definitely bigger than Pekora though. Her casual minecraft number was 52k, something that Pekora has never got with minecraft this month. Not even PekoMiko beat that number.

>>42161258
They're not "helping" anyone, they created a product and put on the open market
https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1616797594306646022

You know, watching Vtuber out in the local park sound pretty chill

>>42161312
Not even close

>>42161078
mocap/tracker system
optitrack is the industry standard for studio recording
mocopi is less than $400 vs optitrack starts around $30k
comparison: https://youtu.be/HIssFCE3_40

Reminder that these are the new First Army members.

When is HoloFes anyway? Are they still selling online ticket?

list of the dead/dying indies/small corpos

>Castella Inomori https://twitter.com/CastellaInomori
>Melonbread https://twitter.com/melonbread_69
>Raina Chiwawa https://twitter.com/RaniaChiwawa
>Selkie https://twitter.com/SelkieVT
>Virion Kisei https://twitter.com/virionkisei
>Sellena https://twitter.com/anelles_
>MoonJelly https://twitter.com/moonjelly0
>Suika Emi https://twitter.com/suikaemi
>Usami https://twitter.com/usami_vt
>RoaFen https://twitter.com/FenThePixie
>TsukimiLune https://twitter.com/TsukimiLune
>Etherna Celine https://twitter.com/ethernaceline
>Etherna Helen https://twitter.com/EthernaHelen
>Makoto & Akira Misaki https://twitter.com/ggnlive_withyou
>Orla Gan Ceann https://twitter.com/orlaganceann
>Lilitapuff https://twitter.com/lilitapuff
>ProjectHarune https://twitter.com/ProjectHarune
>Lilita LaPlume https://twitter.com/lilitapuff

places to end up for these streamers include
>NijiEN Gamers
>HoloEN3
>Phase Invaders/Phase Connect third gen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDUfwFZEICs

Other notes
Tsunderia Shuts down https://twitter.com/tsunderia_us/status/1618443736622501888
VReverie's 2nd generation of VTubers are now open https://twitter.com/VReverieLive/status/1619154341411315713
Tomopulse disbands https://twitter.com/tomopulse/status/1620192296099794944

>>42161326
We probably would know what it’s about anyway as Marine drawing the thumbnail for it

>>42161173
The proximity with the announcement from cover sound like this has more to do with that rather than cover reentering the CN market. That seems to be the sentiment from the comments and posts under some pro-holo b2 channels.

For those who missed and before JP primetime comes, here is the
>MONTHLY MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE OF CCV, KAIGAI ONLY
The total tables will follow on JP primetime.
Cutting point is on 5 streams meaning it takes 5 streams to feature in this table.

Here it goes
>pic related
and here are the usual comments

1) Ina continues as the pro-tempore EN #1 on Gura's absence, and the only one with a 10k+ median and average, in a show of force by Myth
2) Mumei finished the month as the undisputed #2, with a 9.8k median and a 8k+ average
3) IRyS is the #3 on the median, followed by Luca, Mysta and Fauna, all with a 8k+ median
4) Ame, Kronii, Vox and Ike complete the top 10 for the median.
5) The Kiara line held strong for the median, with Kiara having a strong month over 4k and all of HoloEN staying above that range
6) The strongest NijiEN girls (Selen, Pomu, Enna, Millie and Elira) had a very good month and outranked everyone in their branch except for Luxie,
7) Magni was the highest ranked StarsEN. Vesper and Gavis followed, all of them under 4k (with the later under 3k)
8) Kaela detached herself from the pack and became the uncontested #2 for HoloID, withy Moona and Zeta trailing from the distnace
9) Pippa continues being a healthy surprise, outranking several HoloID and NijiEN
10) Finana made a sad return to the 3 digits hell gang on the median
11) Suha Min, (ex)NjiKR, got a healthy incline and surprisingly overtook Nari Yang as the strongest minor kaigai Niji branch. Both are on 4 digits
12) Oceane is the strongest kawaii in the median, with a small difference between her and #2 and #3 (Alleta and Nene respectively)
13) Lily Langlan is the strongest non Holo non Niji in the list

and the punchline
14) The new Tempus boys didn't finish the first month in a good position, already trailing Magni and Vesper on the median with Flayon already being the lowest ranked StarsEN, trialing all of HoloID and all of xSoleil too.

>>42161293
对不起,我应该用中文句子让你明白

>>42161182
Hot steamy lesbo 3somes. Erotic

>>42161312
No. but she is my wife

>>42161328
>music carrier
Is it a Gerald R Ford class for her music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szONkV3l21g

100k on the premiere? Yes or No

>>42161381
>Castella Inomori
July 30th
>Melonbread
July 23rd
>Selkie
October 16th
>Sellena
December 30th
>Usami
September 27th
>>RoaFen
January 6th
>Etherna Celine
July 27th
>>Etherna Helen
July 28th
>Makoto & Akira Misaki
November 6th

>>42161339
>1M ipressions
how the fuck does this twitter push work?
holos dont get that on their tweets with two times the followers

>>42161368
Don’t you find it funny how the First Army seats were taken by Holo from the first 4 gen? (except gen 1)
Gen 0 gen 2 and gen 3 all have 2 reps in it

So with Suisei's latest success it should be easy for anyone to see that within a year everyone will ask "Ado, who's that? I only listen to Suisei.". She's on a one way trip to unrivaled stardom, in 5 to 10 years she'll be more famous than Madonna was at her peak and she'll claim her legacy amongst other cultural icons of the past. She can do no wrong, she is perfection.

* FINAL 24HRS VOD TALLY FOR 01/30/2023 *
(View growth after 1 hour at end of each line)
>351,420 Kuzuha (ANYCOLOR) (79.5%)
>296,994 Omaru Polka (COVER) (1043.0%)
>291,136 Usada Pekora (COVER) (97.8%)
>237,280 Kazama Iroha (COVER) (78.5%)
>220,332 Momosuzu Nene (COVER) (168.7%)
>209,203 AZKi (COVER) (251.4%)
>179,355 Inugami Korone (COVER) (154.9%)
>174,693 Tsukino Mito (ANYCOLOR) (153.9%)
>160,192 Yukihana Lamy (COVER) (36.7%)
>158,625 Lauren Iroas (ANYCOLOR) (125.4%)

>>42161445
Towa is first army tho

I HATE LUCKYPAPA
I HATE LUCKYPAPA
I HATE LUCKYPAPA
I HATE LUCKYPAPA

NijiEN > HoloEN

>>42161368
No bitches?

>>42161415
1 mil i believe

>>42161454
She should make a hit song to answer to drama like MJ. Fucking Billie Jean become a classic even though it was just an answer to drama

>>42161422
Yeah lol the first take tweet has like 14mil impression holo can get them on non holo accounts but not there's i wonder why

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *

>1/31 DAILY TALLY
9,590: Mysta (Nijisanji)
7,964: Mumei (Hololive)
7,395: Ina (Hololive)
7,188: Fauna (Hololive)
5,870: Luca (Nijisanji)
5,822: Magni (Holostars)

>EN GOLD FOR JANUARY 2023
1. Amelia (Hololive) - 19,255 (New Years Countdown and Karaoke)
2. Vox (Nijisanji) - 15,692 (Clubhouse Games w/Mysta)
3. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,736 (Tasting Fruits w/Fauna)
4. Ike (Nijisanji) - 7,576 (Kuukiyomi 3)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,036 (Return stream)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,946 (Collab w/Petra, Enna, Reimu, Sonny, Scarle, Doppio, Kotoka, and Ver)
7. Amelia (Hololive) - 24,748 (Mini Live and Birthday Zatsu)
8. Flayon (Holostars) - 30,354 (Vtuber Debut)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 35,609 (Return Stream)
10. Pomu (Nijisanji) - 21,699 (w/Reimu, Vox, Ren, Scarle, Sonny, Uki, Aia, Kyo, Fungus, Zaion, Ike, Doppio, and Enna)
11. Alban (Nijisanji) - 10,434 (Heave Ho w/Fungus, Uki, and Sonny)
12. Ina (Hololive) - 14,195 (Drawing)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,877 (Luxiem Off-collab)
14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 56,103 (3D Debut)
15. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,798 (GeoGuesser)
16: Mori (Hololive) - 21,756 (Monopoly w/Kronii, Noir, and Magni)
17. Luxiem Channel (Nijisanji) - 27,078 (Super Smash Bros. Off Collab FIRST EVER OMG)
18. Amelia (Hololive) - 9,448 (Return Stream)
19. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,204 (Drawing w/Ina)
20. Mumei (Hololive) - 13,608 (JP Karaoke)
21. Finana (Nijisanji) - 32,491 (3D Debut)
22. Selen (Nijisanji) - 32,339 (0 Stars, not enough flips, not in Tokyo Dome)
23. Selen (Nijisanji) - 29,293 (0 Stars, Jay Briscoe is rolling in his grave)
24. Mumei (Hololive) - 10,836 (Minecraft w/Kaela)
25. Millie (Nijisanji) - 7,600 (Offcollab w/ Elira, Rosemi, Enna, Nina)
26. Baelz (Hololive) - 10,464 (Minecraft)
27. Luca (Nijisanji) - 12,795 (Minecraft)
28. Pomu (Nijisanji) - 34,446 (3D Debut)
29. Kronii (Hololive) - 15,873 (Minecraft)
30. Regis (Holostars) - 10,189 (Poker with Tempus)
31. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,590 (Handcam)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Anycolor - 16
Cover - 15
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
4x: Mumei
3x: Amelia, Mysta
2x: Ina, Vox, Selen, Pomu
1x: Ike, Flayon, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Mori, Finana, Millie, Baelz, Luca, Kronii, Regis

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
32p: Mumei
26p: Ina
22p: Mysta
19p: Vox
18p: Amelia
17p: Fauna
16p: IRyS
13p: Selen
11p: Kronii, Luca
10p: Pomu
8p: Kiara, Ike, Millie, Baelz
7p: Regis
5p: Flayon, Alban, Elira, Mori, Finana
4p: Enna
3p: Sonny, Hakka
1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel, Uki

>>42161415
Nope. 75k max

>>42161368
>0 gold

>>42161346
Meh, didn't like the glare of the sun and the random noises from the environment even with noise cancelling on
Semi naked in my room on my bed from a TV with some good food is still better

>>42161398
>stream the most in holoEN (tied with Kiara) even with JP offcollab arc break &jetlag
>still got great number
how did she do it?

>>42161398
Millie is boosted because
>5 girl offcollab
>impromptu collab with Enna
>Luca collab
>Secret GC stream

Lazulight is boosted by 3D's

>>42161465
It's amusing as fuck that the 35 active Holos can match the hundred plus Nijis even in a metric so heavily dependent on hours streamed as "hours watched" is.

>>42161492
Where's Suisei, Marine?

>>42161402
大丈夫、どうせお前はゴミだ

>>42161565
>enna
*selen

>>42161471
>No bitche-ACK

>>42161565
>Lazulight is boosted by 3D's
1 stream that lasts an hour is not going to boost median or average much

>>42161499
You mean like Mori?

Since HoloID announced their auditions, do you think NijiID are applying desperate to get in??

>>42161118
New Jersey my love

>>42161546
>Caring about worthless metric

>>42161398
>complain about tempus numbers
>the worst tempus still beats 14 nijiENs

>>42161415
60k max. And I'm being generous.

Why is "watched hours" a thing again? How do you even measure that?

>>42161258
>Why is Sony helping Hololive and not VerseN?
Fixed

>Showa live was 3 months ago
>Maribako 6 months ago
Isn't it time for Marine to release a new big hit?

>>42161415
>michizure
nah

>>42161422
?

More clip numbers.
Split today is 17.0M(-330k) HL to 12.0M(-840k) NJ.

>>42161653
it's watched hours, how is the name hard to understand
whether you throw a fit because you don't understand it and think it's a popularity meter is up to you

>>42161492
If koyori continues this she might snipe #1 female this year if Pekora and Amouranth slows down.
2.4 mil wh was Pekora's average per month for 2022.

>>42161630
Holy cope

>>42161682
Graph.

>>42161632
Wut? Unless you mean in the average (overly inflated by their debuts not a full month ago), the Machina X is only ahead of Finana, Marina, Aia and Aster.

>>42161492
>Kaela 222h
Every month she streams more than the previous month

>>42161704
Pekora ain't slowing down this year tho year of the rabbit

More clip numbers, recent only (<2 Days). Other here >>42161682
Look for sources for more info.
Split today is 4.4M(-220k) HL to 1.8M(-760k) NJ.

>>42161422
>>42161514
Holos get 1M on their accounts, too. For example
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1618465741380153344
https://twitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1615679288313008128
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1619855937778622464
etc.
There are lots of near 1M (800-900k) as well.
I believe anytime a tweet is displayed on your screen, it counts as one view, so there you have it

>>42161653
It’s a thing because StreamHatchet use it to decide who is the better streamer

>>42161595
Pretty good.

>>42161653
I don't keep track, but a simple method would be median ccv * stream time, a more comprehensive computation would require more data though and I don't think anyone goes to those lengths since scarping/polling takes too much resources

>>42161653
That's how youtube and twitch assigns your revenue. It's actually the most important metric.
It's an integral under the curve, how many people watched you, for how long.

>>42161704
koyori is not gonna get a 2M again on a month any time soon, she got there this month because holidays, the first couple weeks of the month she basically spammed endurances on relatively empty spots

>>42161415
50k max

>>42161734
Graph.

Hey /#/fags
One of your own is embarrassing himself yelling about a Holobox, come and collect him and tell him to stop shitting up the catalog
>>42155030
>>42156865
>>42157394
>>42157531
>>42158405
>>42160323

>>42161705
>cope
Yeah Towa, Watame, and Koyori > Miko and Aqua.
Fucking retard.

>>42161704
>Implying Pekora of all people would let someone get it before her
We always know that is her lifelong dream and she want it

>>42161674
Now compare followers.

>>42161653
It's a stupid matric but for some reason all mainstream trackers use it so we also have to use it,it's the most relevant one to the public

>>42161769
Let him cook

>>42161682
More clip numbers by Source,

>>42161718
NijiEN got beaten by tempiss, just deal with it

>>42161763
No, that's "Watch Time" which is different and is something you won't be able to estimate at all because a lot of youtube watch time comes from vod views

>>42161735
1M is nothing for holos. should be 2M at the minimum

>>42161762
The doctor will stop her too because more popular = more workload = less stream

>>42161769
Chase him out, the solution to /#/fag in your thread is never to call more /#/fag in

>>42161769
The holobox does exist though, dont care about the rest of his posts. Nijisanji has a web, and you can see the difference

>>42161769
You can keep it, that's one of yours

>>42161653
You don't. There is an actual, proper hours watched metric that is only displayed in the YT analytics page. The "hours watched" posted here was a meme metric estimated by multiplying average CCV with hours streamed.

>>42161834
Holobox is the foundation of all of vtube

>>42161769
Hey! Not all retards are ours, you can keep him though, also the box is indeed an observable event

Why is Pippa so fucking popular now. Holy shit she's like a mid-tier NijiEN girl, and her donations are like a hololive girl.

>>42161851
you keep repeating meme metric like it makes it true, just say you can't look at a metric without thinking it signifies popularity every time and be done with it

>>42161834
>Salome is closer to holos than to the niji main channel/Kuzuha

>>42161772
>0 gold

>>42161883
She has a monopoly on /here audiance i think

>>42161782
>>42161762
>>42161730
If Pekora can keep the hype going and not break (her throat) then she's probably set.
This month her result was more in line with 2021 than with 2022, 2021 was a better year for watch hours.
And Amouranth seems to have slowed considerably, only netting 1.3 million for January.

>>42161883
She latch onto every mainstream news/event/drama. Last time I saw her latch onto Asmongold

>>42161851
>multiplying average CCV with hours streamed
just integrate the curves dumbasses. It's not fucking hard. Fucks sake Vrabi could do it automatically.

Do you people not even know how to integrate something?

>>42161243
It's not collab.

>>42161919
You just know streamhatched will move the goalpost and stop posting that particular "most viewed female streamer" stats

>>42161900
The rrat about nousagis flock into Salome streams in May/June is proven to be true, after all

>>42161944
I think they already did they haven't posted the biggest female stremer of 2022 yet

>>42161890
It's a meme metric because it doesn't favour the holos that I like

>>42161900
Salome Korone collab soon

>>42161208
Gura mogs both of them easily.

>>42161744
It's atrocious for First Army's standard.
Pekora doesn't even have any sub 20k stream this month.

>>42161944
Oh for sure but it's getting harder for them to rig every passing year, especially if their flesh streamers under perform.

>>42161890
It doesn't signify shit because the calculation method is flawed and inaccurate (even if you are to ignore hours watched from VOD views). Average CCV times hours streamed equals amount of hours viewers watch a chuuba, and you don't see anything wrong with that? (Heck, and I haven't even bother taking into account that CCV isn't displayed properly either yet)
That's why I call it the meme metric - because it is inaccurate and thus, meaningless. The actual hours watched metric isn't accessible by viewers.

>>42161919
and they will cull vtubers numbers again
remember they shouldn't include amouranth in the first place and still did anyway just because they don't want anime girl to be on top

>>42161334
>Casual something
Hello sister

>>42161935
>multiplying average CCV with hours streamed
>just integrate the curves dumbasses
It's the same thing. The average CCV of a stream is already calculated as the integral under that curve divided by the stream length.
Multiplying the average by the stream length is just restoring the original integral.

>>42161890
It relates less to "popularity" and more to "money earned"

Someone who streams at 5k for 1 hour earns less money than someone who streams a 1k for 10 hours.
Also people who stream less have a rarity buff

>>42161903
Retard.

Stop talking about holoshit.

>>42162012
no, there isn't anything wrong with it, you just assume it's wrong because it feels that way to you, you aren't even explaining why you think it's wrong, you're just describing it and saying it's bad

>>42161935
Those will give you the same number, mathletchama. The problem is that we already know that the displayed average ccv is not the one they show to the creator afterwards, multiple people have brought this up before like Vox. And on top of that, it doesn't track the watch time of people watching vods which is a significant portion of people on Youtube.

so, is this shitter doing his meme metric skit because an ENshitter's supposed buff stream just lost to kanata doing nothing?

>>42162038
>Only sister can use the word casual

>>42162051
>Someone who streams at 5k for 1 hour earns less money than someone who streams a 1k for 10 hours.
Unless you mean exclusively ad money on their VODs, which is the tiniest fraction of revenue for medium to high earning vtubers, you definitely don't have a point and Ayame is an obvious counterexample for that given her known revenue for 2022 and her assumed revenue

>>42162042
Well assuming the people here aren't doing a "dumb average" of the streams, and are actually weighting by stream-length. Which I don't think the idiots here are smart enough to do

>>42162033
They will, mostly due to only counting streams labeled as a "Gaming" stream in the return from the api. I don't have the numbers for it but I would estimate Pekora would lose about 200-300k from this month due to stuff like that.

>>42162097
You must have just parachuted in this thread if you think otherwise.
There is a reason >>42161398 calls it "true average", to make sure people understand it is not the average of peaks.

Please sit down, shut up and lurk some six months more before showing up and spouting retardation

When is Salome going to get her 3D debut? Would she even get above 100k CCV for it?

>>42162051
Just say supa stream Vs kusoge stream

>>42162097
>actually weighting by stream-length
that's literally how the averages in this thread are always calculated

>>42162070
How her in B2?

>>42161746
It's not median ccv. It's average ccv * stream hours.

>>42161595
I think Aqua should play Minecraft

Predict when Laplus is coming back.

>>42162195
only if shion joins in. they still need to finish their pixel art on the old server

Every metric is a meme metric if you look at it in a vacuum. That's why this >>42161492 has 4 extra columns you should use to make an intelligent conclusion. Something that people here are incapable of doing, for some reason.

>>42161746
We literally have ccv graphs available on vrabi

>>42162203
probably after 4th fes, and announce her graduation

>>42162203
2/13

Should have been Debutante Ball over Michizure.
The only reason I imagine for not picking that one is Suisei not feeling confident she can sing a nearly 6min long song in one take (I don't remember if she sang it in her sololive).

How the fuck all of these newfags found this thread? Where did they come from?
How hard is to read a fucking table?

People are discussing things that are well understood in this thread for more than a year now, and trying to rediscover things that this place do since VNUMA died.

>>42161340
>$ony
Stupid sellout selling to chinks.

Here an indicator for popularity

>>42162251
Michizure > Debutante Ball

>>42162203
Same day as Gura

huhu, mio can snipe the gold

>>42161834
Winning son

>>42162275
>Gokisei and Ayame more popular than Miko Marine and Pekora
Shit metric

>>42162284
Yeah I saw it earlier, it’s a zatsu talk about their camping trip?

>>42162192
That's just as horrible and I don't like it as it's not as precise

>>42162284
Can this beat 40k?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQMlaUQWRrU

Cool. I can't wait until it's finished.
https://twitter.com/electonestation/status/1620693563896905729

>>42162233
Vrabi could do it but is the developer even here

Kanata 20k
To think about this MC buff is really strong, stronger than Holocure 1st season if I must say

>>42162275
Yes Botan is peak GFE

>>42162292
This is a closer up look without the rest of the vtubing world.

>>42162251
Best way to advertise the album.
Ayase is the composer, probably the most popular one among the others and Michizure is the "lead song" in the album.

>>42162109
I don't get it, Amouranth isn't even a gaming streamer so shouldn't she not count at all if they're excluding non-gaming streams?

>>42162012
No i don't see anything wrong with that. It's simple and easy to understand.I personally don't think watch hours is not the be all end all stats but we can draw conclusions on why some vtuber gets higher on that list or why they drop.

>>42162329
Marine's gold is guaranteed anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oeG_9aZlds

>>42162251
>i don't remember if she sang it in sololive
What were you watching?

Hololive at 99.999999% strength

>>42162363
streamhatchet are fucking amouranth simps

>>42162313
It's perfectly precise

>>42162074
nta but it's a meme metric because it's hard to quantify what it actually tells you. it's a chimera metric coined from two actual metrics
>ccv
tells you how many live viewers you have. the most important metric for a live streamer. higher ccv means you have a bigger draw for your streams.
>stream hours
tells you how often a streamer streams. a measure of consistency or hard work.

So what exactly does "watched hours" tell you? Is is a popularity ranking? A hard work ranking? A mindshare ranking?
>>42161492
You can see here that Kaela is ahead of Fuwa. What exactly is she ahead of him in? Can you describe it in a useful qualitative way?

>>42162329
>Mio's channel
Nope

>>42162395
It's as perfectly precise as me measuring millimetres with your dick

>>42162412
Collective time spent watching her over Fuwa, duh

>>42162313
precise would be integrating the ccv graph or get it directly from yt

>>42162412
nta but the most important metric for a live streamer is and always has been how long any given viewer watches you for before clicking off. as it is for non-live video content funnily enough.

>>42162445
You don't need the CCV graph, the average contains the same data for this purpose

>>42162386
Not even close, only 4 First Army is present on the tally today, 3 of them don’t even show up on their channel

11k watching cgdct

Remember Hours watch is only meme metric to holoEN fans.

.

>>42162412
it tells you how much someone was watched live, that's why it's called watched hours
the table provides additional metrics on the side to help you figure out why someone was watched more
how is it hard to understand

>>42162275
This doesn't mean anything because most Suisei fans are crazy yumejoshi/yurifans who likes ikebo women and they buy her merch in mass like if there's no tomorrow, so her merchs sold out faster and it falsely increases the market price.

20k watching autistic block game

>>42162363
Gaming is a type for streams/vods on youtube, the creator labels their stream as a gaming stream. Streamhatchet only counts streams that have the tyoe "Gaming" for youtube streams, for Twitch there is no such categorizations, it's just a stream.

A 3d Live from holo talents are usually not labeled as a Gaming stream, and will not be counted by stream hatchet.

>>42162491
HoloENfags watch clips.

>>42162475
average for the whole stream? average in between time frames?

>>42162313
Anon, that's just the integral under the curve. It's basic bitch math.

Here is how the average is calculated today
>pic related for a ROUGH SKETCH

1) tracking sites take samples every interval of time (with vrabi taking them ever 15 seconds)
2) they calculate the area below the samples (it's a simple integral)
3) they divide said area by the stream length to calculate the average of ONE stream

Now, to calculate the average of a certain channel in a period of time, they use another basic bitch Calculus 101 identity
>the integral of sum of two or more functions is equal to the sum of their integrals.

For that, it suffices to
>multiply the average of a single stream by it's stream length
>add all of these results for every stream
>divide by the sum of stream length for every stream

What they call "hours watched" is just the total area below the combined chart for all streams in the period.
Divide that by the stream length and it's the average in the period.

>>42162329
no, it's at Mio channel instead of Miko, last time they have 37k
but seriously Miko never get a pov for this group ever like wtf is wrong with the other two leeches only care about their own numbers

>>42162064

>>42162491
stop posting cold hard truth...

Something is going on in Kawaii

>>42162491
*Marine fans

>>42162578
See >>42162589, stop trying to rediscover something this place is doing for almost two years now.

>>42162412
>You can see here that Kaela is ahead of Fuwa. What exactly is she ahead of him in? Can you describe it in a useful qualitative way?

In hours when people watch her stream.

>>42162491
Can you find HoloEN here >>42161492

>>42162591
Whoever arrange the collab get to host it? This have always been the case

>>42162491
>Saying this when Amouranth beat Pekora just by literally sleeping under this calculation method
So, NTA, but as >>42162412 said, what does it reflect?

>>42162602
New gen? Didn't they just get their 3D?

>>42162616
And is that how StreamHatchet or other sites do those watched hours?

>>42162589
t. I may be bright but socially inept.

Pippa has higher ccv than 13 NijiEN and is almost 1/2 of Selen. Soon Selen will be begging her for attention

>>42162632
Yeah that's the reason why its a meme metric to them. They can't compete so they cope.

>>42162602
Oceane to ID4?

can you autists stop entertaining the watch hour retard?
and millie, you're too stupid to understand, that's why you're in nijien

>>42162645
Is amouranth a holoEN member?

>>42162589
>Assuming third worlders have access to education

King status?

>>42162651
Yes.

They don't have access to the real metric that Youtube uses, which is
>Time watched
which is how much time the audience spent watching a channel video (be it live or on the VOD or upload).
That measurement is only between Youtube and the channel owner.

Everybody else has to take the publicly available data and pretend to be taking some meaningful conclusion from it
>which they aren't, because they don't have all the data

This thread uses those numbers for horse racing purposes and shitposting, they're not to be taken seriously

Looking like a 40k for Marine

>>6k waiting for Marine stream
Isnt it too low

>>42162437
>Hour watched
Fucking useless metric. Here's an example: 1000 indogs spend 8 hours of their live to watch Kaela vs 10000 nips spend 15 minutes to watch fuwa. So who's the one with more mindshare here, Kaela or Fuwa???

>>42162722
marine the new number queen.. i kneel

marine waiting room seem pretty weak

>>42161492
So based on this we can calculate the first army
Pekora
Koyori
Miko
Subaru
Korone
Towa

Marine, Suisei, and Aqua all get kicked out

>>42162716
Beaten by Toya

>>42162654
Par for the course for this site, even more so for this board, even even even more so for this thread

>>42162528
That is a pretty retarded way of counting, did they give a reason why they don't standardize their criteria for both sites? I'm surprised that people not here take their numbers seriously.

>>42162505
But that's how it works, people see something being sold, then they assume it's good and start buying more like in an pyramid scheme. Suisei is bigger than Marine and Pekora.

>>42162739
Nousagi watch streams and only switch on the last minute.

>>42162754
She didn’t emphasize on the “announcement” part

Sub 40k for marine

>>42162758
if you want to insist on that fucking shitpost, it was based on the metrics on the right, not the left

>>42162661
t. coping hoshiyomi
just be happy with your TFT

>>42162694
No, but it showed how meaningless the metric is even when it comes to JP chuubas (not just Hololive, but Niji as well - remember when Gwelu racked up shit tons of stream hours over a month just by running a stream forever without ending it?).
What does it reflect?

>>42162744
Definitely not Fuwa, people who watch 15mins and leave are simply tourists

>>42162802
Well if there's a first army for CCV why not a first army for watch hours too? It makes sense if it's an industry metric. Also it recognizes Koyori's contribution.

>>42162761
bruh

>>42162602
Kawaii is going to be integrated into holoEN, that's why there's been a lot of meetings lately and why EN3 hasn't been announced yet, because Kawaii is EN3

>>42162799
Yeah, Mio is minimum 50k and Suisei will do an watchalong of her premiere, if they had 150k in the first one, she will take gold because nost people will watch in her channel now. Marine can get her bronze like the bronze queen she is.

>>42162765
It's stream hatchet, what do you think? The only reason why they are brought up is because the post the ranking lists for streamers. They are pretty much considered a blight for any true numberfag.

>>42162838
holy shit dude, she's just a shitter that streams a lot, there's nothing to recognize, she's just hololive's ars or chihiro

>>42162838
>first army for CCV
>Aqua
>CCV

>>42161933
Yeah, her mentioning him 4 months ago and him spending 5 minutes watching a clip during his 8 hour react stream is surely the secret to her growth.

>>42162821
You are wasting your time relitigating a point that was discussed to death in the past.
You are correct in that the the number is meaningless because it's the product of two very disparate metrics creating something that doesn't carry any meaning.
You are silly for trying to make that point in a horse race thread.

>>42162838
First army is a 5ch/matome thing

>>42162758
Neck yourself already, Nijifag shitposter.

Real gold

>>42162635
and the trip was part of sport fes too, explain why it's wasn't at Miko
you can argue the current one being managed by Mio
but the last trip was managed by Miko, yet Mio still got the pov
same with the last 3 zatsu ALL on Subaru's channel for no good reason, when it was Miko managing the 2nd one, Mio managing the 3rd

>6.5k waiting
How many were waiting for the first TFT 2 hours before the premiere?

>>42162879
He has a point. She's popular because she latches on popular things.
The fact sometimes people think that's bad is baffling tho.

What's marine doing

>>42161900
she was one big pekora waiting room afterall
weird that she got a prize for that

>>42162914
Suisei gold though.

QUIET DOWN EVERYONE, THE PIRATE IS LIVE!

>>42162916
A lot more it was about 20k

/#/ has been extremely helpful in understanding mathematics.

>>42162896
Start baiting again?

>>42162925
Painting gen3 for their upcoming project.

>>42161994
you're being overly dramatic

>>42162915
Miko let Mio stream,that simple

>>42162932
>>/vt/ahoy

>>42162925
Maribako 2

Uh, ichimibros? I don't think this is beating Toya

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

IT'S NOT A COLLAB HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH

MARINE CLICKBAITING WITH THUMBNAIL SHOWING ALL SAKISEI MINUS RUSHIA BUT IN THE END IT WAS NOT A COLLAB EVERYONE GOT BAITED HAHAHAHAHA

Look like a 40k stream for real.

>>42162984
Hope it the anime they want since last year but...

>>42162999
You're fucking retarded.

>>42162999
See >>42161291
>IT IS NOT A COLLAB

>>42162999
Learn Japanese, Nijifag.

>>42161653
hours watched is a metric brought over to streaming by the overwatch league because they needed a metric they beat other esports in to sell to sponsors.

>>42162821
As a nousagi i find this metric to be useful. I can atleast know why pekora lose.

>>42162999
En need you,don't embarrass yourself anon

Actual gold contender: https://www.youtube.com/live/xNW8Y-Zuq5M?feature=share

>>42162999
guaranteed replies

>>42162999
Looks like you need a time-out enshart.

don't post live links, they don't embed properly

>>42162929
Suisei doesn't stream retard.

>already plateauing
it's fucking over
NIJIGODS NIJIGOLD

Marine wont get 35k lets alone 40k

can someone post the nousagi shitting blood pic? its really funny

At least drawings are cute.

I feel lie Marine's new announcement will be a new music video

>almost 0 overlap
>only 30k
1st army my ass

>>42162999
The tweet never said it’s a collab, but it is indeed relating to Sankisei
What do you expect?

>>42163114
You mean Damascus?

i want army posters to have a painful and slow death

>>42163145
It's overlap hell retard, including 1 1st army member and 1 2nd army member

>>42163163
very nice thank you anon

>>42163079
Suisei is gonna get 100k anon

>>42161653
It's EN cripplecope just ignore it if you see it

She would easily get 50k if its a UMISEA project.

>>42163179
>>42163169

>>42163187
good reading comprehension ESL lmao

So, the horse race is on
>can she beat Toya?

>>42163181
He wasnt really a nousagi though, he just made a lot of the distorted pekos and anya's

>Best stream
>Worst subhuman
It SEAhour again!

>>42163099
What video is that

Marinekeks status?

>>42163218
easily

>>42163169
What's wrong? It's just a term, why are you so mad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A

Marine might graduate soon I think
She's obviously been losing motivation and she might be looking at her friends in the overseas branch to see what the next step in her life should be.

kek, she'll really get gold with a shill stream?

Who is sponsoring this, wacom?

youtube is quite brutal

>>42162946
it will never happen again I hope

>>42163313
TICKTOCK NIJIKEKS

>>42163296
>motivation
kek, that's only for sheltered urban and college educated retards in the west.

For the rest of the world, wanna know what is the biggest motivator to get out of bed and do a task you wouldn't otherwise if given the choice?
>LARGE QUANTITIES OF CASH MONEY

>Coco leaves. Yonkisei bond becomes weaker.
>Rushia leaves. Sankisei bond becomes stronger.
True?

>Marine's stream is sponsored
looks like the announcement is some product or store tie-in.

>>42162946
It's scary to think just how uneducated the average person is, you shouldn't need a 4chan thread to explain how averages work

>>42163225
still funny and ripe for shitposting

>>42163313
Lui-nee… she did this to herself…

Nijibronies not like this

>>42163381
>>Coco leaves. Yonkisei bond becomes weaker.
You never watched them they have always been dysfunctional

>>42163381
>
>
DYRBI?

>>42163356
Marine is fucking stacked, she could not work a day for the rest of her life and be fine.

>>42163381
I'll say 4th gen bonds had vanished long before Coco's graduation.

>>42163410
>>42163348
marine wont get 40k

>>42163381
because shes a traitor snake who uses all her money in plastic surgery and luxury brand items to be attractive to men and they all disliked her for being this fake persona

>>42163381
Rushiahaters will say TRUE and BASED, but not really. Yonkisei never were too close, and sankisei bond was always strong.

>>42163184
not her channel

Imagine losing against a shill stream

>>42163431
I blame Suisei.

God holobots are so disgusting. Imaging botting just to get the gold kek

>>42163449
>40 minutes before the hour changes
>Still inclining
You lost nijikeks

>>42162915
35p are shameless, the 0 gold has truly rocked them

>>42163239
t.SEAfag

>>42163483
stop botting first

>>42163478
Sad cope

>>42163313
ILuna's doing....well

(ಡωಡ)

KEKK KEK

don't worry, marine is tanking
niji gold is safe

The fact that Marine who's easily gets gold today isn't even in the watched hours chart shows that it's a really meme metric.

>>42163423
>>42163431
>>42163454
>>42163455
rushiaposting is always a very effective deflection tactic in /#/

I think Mio has this in the bag, and Marine will probably beat chinman anyway.

https://twitter.com/tokino_sora/status/1620719916671442945
Sora, EN, and ID collab on the way. Any guesses on who the members are?

>sankisei bond this
>yonkisei bond that
You've never even seen a true bond if you don't watch Nikisei

>>42163424
Again, that's also part of the "urban and college educated retard" mentality.
One of the few places you see people taking "early retirement" is the söyboy crowd from Silicon Valley.
For the rest of the world they just chug along, using their profession as a touching point with their friends and community. Specially for someone as accomplished as Marine, if she ever retires it would be because of a health condition otherwise she'll just keep showing up and doing her thing.

>>42163381
Yonkisei was and is still weird in terms of bonds, maybe because they are a mishmash of talents with little in common or they simply aren't that compatible

>>42163538
I'd watch my oshi iron her clothes.

>>42163562
Iofi on the ID side is a shoe in, no?

>>42163530
(ᐡꐦo̴̶̷̤ ﻌ o̴̶̷̤ꐦᐡ)

>>42163472
Suisei's bond with yonkisei except Towa is also dead

The only bonds i saw was bondage.

>>42163538
Good. Go make daddy a sandwich next

Prepare your Mio vs Marine for later sister.

And Marine's home 3D looks creepy

>not even 40k
Pathetic

>>42163381
For sankisei, idk about bond but their 3D live together become infinitely good after rushia gone

I see nijicopes began once again lmao

>>42161422
Chloe's scribble 4.1M
https://twitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1618519339484975105?t=Z-W1WFxp04kY1Xr785bU-Q&s=19

>>42163549
Stop coping holoEN fag.

>>42163538
I hope she irons herself.

watch the numbers go up when she draw pekora

Close

>nijiroaches sweating bullets right now
You love to see it

marine wont get 40k
marine wont get 40k
marine wont get 40k
marine wont get 40k
marine wont get 40k

>>42163651
>Mio vs Marine
Hot

Marinebros it's over

>>42163700
NIJIKEKS STATUS?

>>42162251
She sang a shortened version of debutante ball during the sololive.

Honestly it's such a waste. Why are they giving sankisei so much sponsorship when they can give this to myth.

>>42163692
Did you say Pekora? I love Pekora!

STOP THE COUNT!

>>42163538
Do people really waste electricity money to heat their clothes for nothing?

>>42163768
Who?

>>42163479
>tapping into that audience
It's just tapping into the /pol/ audience which dominates 4chan. You don't have to get political, but if you throw them a few bones it's an easy path to popularity

Just 1k more Marine
Let's just get this over with to shut the nijikeks

is this larping fun after doing it for 2 years
is it really

>Open Kiara's stream
>She's asking how to refill iron

Fine. I guess I'll watch Marine to help claim gold.

Marine is the gura killer

>>42163553
Because I bite each and every Rushia bait. I set my thread watcher to give non-stop notification (vibration and sound) if Rushia is mentioned in #. I need to defend her honor. She is not my oshi but she is very important for my oshi.

Kiara is getting crazy good number.

kek, WTF is Kiara doing in this slot?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ELNIg4tYQ

I'm curious tho, I wonder if she'll melt her clothes

Marine minecraft got 50k btw
This is disappointing

Why do Nijikeks act like they're our "rivals"?
Don't we get gold like 85% of the days?

Can we stop falling for Holo vs Holo?

>>42163852
Practicing for after we get married

300 left bros

>>42163844
>3k
>good number
That is her usual numbers.

>>42163852
EU hours didn't work, time to find new slot

Hololive is too reliant on Pekora. Remove her and things become less lopsided.

>>42163860
But minecraft is a buff game... are you retarded?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>42163875
Yes global tally always belongs to holo, cripple tally however

MARINE GOLD
>MARINE GOLD
MARINE GOLD
>MARINE GOLD
MARINE GOLD
>MARINE GOLD
MARINE GOLD
>MARINE GOLD
39735

>>42163875
No, niji won according to this tally >>42160365