/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>41898627
The one thing I enjoy about Kronii's presence in hololive is that cover forces her to do things she hates. Like idol culture, big boobs and having to (try to) not be an whiny entitled crybully which she so desperately wishes to be.

>>41898627
Man, I hate dealing with you fucks so much
>muh unfortunately idol culture quote
She wasn't saying that it's bad that it was a thing you niggers, that's dramaniggers taking it out of context and everyone eating it up.
>>41898778
Funny thing is her tits are nerfed in the idol outfit. Let me guess, next we'll see garbage responses like
>"She asked for it and cover complied as long as she wore the idol suit"
Kill yourselves.

>>41898627
This is rape

>>41901574
yeah of me

>>41901363
But she was indeed implying that idol culture is a bad thing and she definitely asked cover to chop her tits off because that would invoke incessant male gaze.

>>41901363
>>"She asked for it and cover complied as long as she wore the idol suit"
That's obviously what happened though?

>>41901363
you know fully well what she meant by it even with context. although she will definitely half-ass her performance, cover forcing her to idol stuff is a start

>>41901363
Cope and seethe. You WILL wear the idol outfit Kronii and you WILL prance around for our enjoyment

>>41901784
> she will definitely half-ass her performance
didnt go to japan, will have a skinwalker controlling her, half assed is too generous

>>41901363
I don't think you understand that most people here only threadread and there's a reason they always quote than instead of shitposting with the image itself. It's a shitposting angle, they get their dopamine out of it

>>41901363
>unfortunately
>used to say that something is sad, disappointing, or has a bad effect
Words have meanings, anon.

>>41898627
>>41898778
based
yagoo knows how to keep a tight leash
look what happen coco after she left

>>41901363
>She wasn't saying that it's bad that it was a thing you niggers, that's dramaniggers taking it out of context and everyone eating it up.
How do you take "unfortunately" out of context when that's literally what she said? What the fuck do you think unfortunately means?

>>41901817
Based, this is my fetish. Forced feminization of feminazis.

>>41901363
>She wasn't saying that it's bad that it was a thing you niggers
yes she was, you gaslighting yourself into thinking she somehow sad "the bad thing about idol culture" when she didnt doesnt change what she said

>>41901363
>actually trying to gaslight others into thinking unfortunately doesn't have negative connotations
Getting a lot of (You)'s, including from me, so good job I guess.

>>41901911
Yagoo knows that Talent FreedomTM is a mistake

"Unfortunately, since idol culture is a thing" and "Unfortunately idol culture is a thing" are wildly different statements, you retards
It's like the difference between "Unfortunately, since you are Southeast Asian..." and "Unfortunately you are Southeast Asian"

Clockbros really aren't the same anymore after the shart collab huh

>>41901915
(NTA) She was talking about shipping that "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" that would lead people to taking ships too serious with the guys. That was literally the context.
I don't care if you hate Kronii but stop being a fucking retard and misquoting.

>>41902589
Unfortunately, since you are retarded you can't see that unfortunately you are retarded

>>41901363
>She wasn't saying that it's a bad thing
>Just that it causes bad things to happen
Not the defense you thought it was.

>>41898627
Typical tranny, talks a lot, but won't stick to her own stance

>>41901363
Cope. Wear the Idol outfit and dance for my entertainment like the paid mongrel you are, Kronii.

>>41902589
I see 0 reason to believe Kronii understands the difference.
She is hands down below average IQ

>>41901870
>>41901363
I wonder what kind of mental gymnastics you need to not interpret that as her hating everything hololive stands for. Literally need to redefine the word "unfortunately". She should have joined fucking Nijisanji. Only accepted the hololive job for the money and is now being passive aggressive about doing her job.

>>41898627
idk but Kronii model/hair looks so bad in this idol outfit. it's just doesn't fit

>>41901363
upvoted.

>>41898627
>forces her into an idol outfit anyway
No one is forcing her to do anything. She hates idol culture but loves the money it generates.

>>41903463
You're retarded, it's not her choice to make when she's in the company.

>>41901911
>>41902268

>>41903600
Okay anon. There was a gun pointed to her head when she took this job knowing full well it had idol activity requirements on top of regular streaming. She was completely forced by Cover to accept all those paychecks. Poor Kronii.

>>41901363
>Kill yourselves.
your types are kinda high in those statistics faggot

>>41903600
But... she joined an IDOL company how is that fact forgotten

>>41901363
your oshi sucks, dude
but i dont understand why she refuses to lean into the cynical pandering shit, her fanbase is already the worst of the worst anyway

>>41898627
Based.

>>41898778
FPBP
Fire omegay and all the EN managers and let the Nippons mamage the girls the way Yagod intended.

>>41901574
This is why nobody takes you seriously.
Leave society and become a hermit or some shit. We don't need you.

>>41903932
It’s an entertainment company, cope

I don't get why Kronii didn't just go to nijiEN instead, clearly they are everything she would want

>>41903173
That's just you projecting because of your country's average IQ statistic

>>41898627
She didn't know what she was talking about. Idol culture does not equal "talent I follow cannot interact with men". That's something that is totally unique to vtuber fans. Wota don't want them dating anyone but some vtuber fans are a whole nother level of crazy getting mad if they talk/collab with a guy.

I genuinely worry about some people on this board as potential stalkers and shit. I know the anonymity spikes the schizoposting but it's alarming some of the things you read on here and the farms. There is a beauty to this medium and lots of great things have come out of it, but at the same time it was obvious from the start that when you take an anime girl, a symbol of perfect distilled beauty and make her borderline real it's bound to attract mentally ill loners that have deep issues. Seiyuu and regular idols can breathe a sigh of relief.

>>41905012
she literally didnt know anything about hololive, never heard of Kiryu Coco or songs like Ahoy

>>41903173
Yeah, just like her fans.

>>41903791
She almost certainly had no clue what she was signing up for.

>>41901574
Good

>>41898627
If she's smart enough, she can turn this into its own thing. The spiteful idol who hates her job but is forced to do it for money anyway. She has to sink to new lows for her fans but she can't help but relish in the attention so she ends up confiding to them in private due to her insecurities.

>>41901574
Perfect

>>41906915
iyapan vtuber is a great idea

>>41901363
I like how you faggots always reply with kill yourself since you are the one’s suiciding all the time tranny.

>>41901363
>She wasn't saying that it's bad that it was a thing you niggers, that's dramaniggers taking it out of context and everyone eating it up.
You really think someone would do that? Just Go On the Internet and Tell Lies?

>>41908969
how have those Gura streams been lately chumbaby?

>>41901363
No, kill yourself mindbroken cluck

>>41906915
Yeah no, bitch is probably going to graduate the moment she realizes she's giving too much power to her audience over her.

If she had no intention of being an idol ever she wouldn't have applied to the company that regularly holds idol shows.

>>41910408
follow the money

>>41910408
She clearly knew very little about hololive, she doesn’t even remember all of her senpai

>>41911521
This. She only heard "biggest corpo in a rising field" and immediately applied without thinking it more.

>>41901363
I can't even remember the specific wording of the comment anymore but I do agree she was trying to ward off hetships more than shit talk idol culture, iirc she also was probably having a panicked woman moment when she was writing that comment because I think somebody called her out for saying yuri ships were okay because nobody took them seriously.

She still put her foot in her mouth badly because you have to parse it in a very specific way and give her the benefit of the doubt to think she was not complaining about idol culture at least a little bit. So much so that every ESL shitposter is now convinced she hates everything hololive stands for, I hope she takes holofes seriously and you can enjoy your oshi on stage anon. I enjoyed her singing with Gura and look forward to seeing her in 3d

>>41901363
>doesn’t even know Ahoy
I’m inclined to believe she doesn’t know anything about what is expected of her, and thus, shits on the illusion versus the reality. All of this done for brownie points with mutants on social media, by the way.

>>41901363
you should've posted the ACTUAL quote, because these niggers don't even know what she wrote

>>41901363
>>muh unfortunately idol culture quote
>She wasn't saying that it's bad that it was a thing you niggers, that's dramaniggers taking it out of context and everyone eating it up

>>41913392
this is ALL en vtubers. theyre not characters or idols, theyre just twitch streamers with a skin.

ina and fauna atleast try i suppose

>>41898627
anyone got a clip when she said this, looking for a quick cringe

>>41898627
There isnt any EN tubers that this place is actually ok with. every one has done something that makes /vt/ as a collective hate them

Just stealing an essaypost because it explains the situation pretty well and most of these threads are low effort shitposts but theres always a chance someone is genuinely curious.

First of all, when people ask "What did Kronii do?" there will always be a bunch of trolls eager to jump in with responses like "SHE COLLABED WITH MEN" "SHE SAID UNFORTUNATELY IDOL CULTURE IS A THING" and "SHE PROMISED TO STOP COLLABING WITH MEN AND THEN DIDN'T." These answers are all wrong and everyone who posts them is a faggot. It doesn't even matter why they post them. Some of them are trolls just trying to stir the shit. Some of them honestly think that's what happened because they didn't follow Kronii and just listened to whatever troll post or dramatuber vid told them. Some are actual Kronies trying to make the Kronies that left look like unreasonable schizos. Whatever the case, every single answer that is along those three lines is wrong and can be discarded immediately.

What actually happened with Kronii was a little more complicated. Basically she first attempted to understand where her fans were coming from, and then abruptly did an about face and sided with the people calling them incels. It was a betrayal of trust on the deepest level, and whether or not she meant it this way is irrelevant, the effect was the same.

Basically Kronii did not have a lot of things going for her as a streamer early on. She had the Wada model and a nice voice. But she wasn't great at zatsudan, she wasn't great at games, and she wasn't great at singing, she also did karaoke pretty rarely. Which is fine, part of the joy of the Hololive experience is watching your streamer develop over time. Thus people had to find something else to latch onto and they did so by becoming parasocial with her. This wasn't helped by her choosing to watch a lot of "Gosling" movies in member streams like The Truman Show, and of course Ryan Gosling himself in Blade Runner and La La Land.

The male collab thing was not well received by this portion of the fanbase and they made their discontent known through long and lengthy posts in her community, trying to explain themselves as best they could. Whether they were CGDCTfags or just plain unicorns, or people who didn't like the drama that male collabs inevitably bring, they spelled out their grievances, for the most part as composed as they could be. I'd say the only person that came off close to being a unicorn was Aliaga Ayin's post and even that wasn't that deranged. Some of these posts were from long time members, people Kronii would actually talk and react to in chat, Kronies refer to such people as being on the "spreadsheet' which is an alleged list of her "favorite" members. The most notorious of this would be Gabe who was mentally ill and attention seeking from Day 1, but even his post wasn't that crazy.

The point is during a special unarchived member stream, Kronii took the time to read these posts, out loud on stream, in an effort to better understand what these people were unhappy about. And for a brief moment, that won her a lot of love and respect. While Reddit and Twitter were calling these people unicorns and incels, she actually took the time to read them, addressed their concerns, and even defended them, saying she didn't want people attacking her fans. She stated clearly, that while she would NOT stop doing male collabs, she would not initiate them, probably not tweet to them that much, and she would not stream her POV to them. This satisfied all but the most die hard unicorns, and again, even Aliaga Ayin was pacified. The point is, the Kronies that felt this way felt HEARD. She didn't just dismiss them out of hand, like others were doing.

Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it. There was no further discussion and at the same time the Hololive account made that proclamation against harassing the talents.

So in the eyes of the Kronies who felt betrayed, she had gone from understanding them and defending them, to siding with the people who mocked them and disparaged them, while running and hiding behind the skirts of the company from the inevitable backlash she had to know would follow. Honestly it would have been better if she had never done that unarchived members stream. She gave them hope that she understood, if not fully agreeing with where they came from, and then dashed it violently. That's why they hate her so much. It's not as simple as "male collabs" or "unfortunately idol culture is a thing" it is a real long standing feeling of betrayal and loss from people who watched her for over a year and thought they had a deeper understanding of their oshi and she them.

>>41914911
What about Fauna or Ironlung?

>>41915035
NTA but fauna is getting dicked down by eddie as we speak.

>>41901363
Explain what she truly wanted to say then anon.

>>41915035
Isnt Fauna engaged?

Nothing wrong with singing and dancing. The only thing wrong with idol culture are the obsessive fans that come with it.

>>41914911
Because all of them are low-tier western and asian women who speak english and think that the world has done them wrong by not giving them free money, so they take that out on the people who watch their streams.

>>41915310
but the obsessive idol fans are the hololive fanbase. theyre the vast majority, and especially of people who give superchats. what do they expect, youve joined the most incel otakubait company in existance. its like if i walked around dressed in a fursuit and got mad when furries interacted with me.

>>41915447
Why would they get cute anime avatars if not to attract geeky simpy incels? if they didnt want them they could just stream on twitch and show their ugly faces.

Imagine her just seething in rage about

NOOOOO NOT THE SINGING AND DANCING WITH OTHER GIRLS, THIS JUST HELPS SPREAD THE MISCONCEPTION THAT IDOL CULTURE IS GOOD AND FUN AAAAAAAAAAAAAA IM GOING INSANE SAVE ME VESPERMAN QUICK, SCHEDULE A HOMO COLLAB TO COUNTER THIS EVIL IDOL CULTURE AAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOO

>>41898627
if she didnt like the idol part why didnt she just join niji

>>41914994
So, Kronii is actually Nyanners.

>>41898627
she would be happier hanging out with Vesper instead of this idol shit

>>41918074
They are both in an idol company.
They should graduate together then if they so much dislike the thought of idols

>>41916661
She is only in for the money

>>41916661
Holo is more popular... easy as that follow the money afterall

>>41918074
Vesper and Kronii should both undergo drastic sexual reassignment surgery then she joins Tempus and he joins Council. Everyone would be happier that way.

>>41898778
>The one thing I enjoy about Kronii's presence in hololive is that cover forces her to do things she hates. Like idol culture, big boobs
Anon you might want to examine your way of life if you enjoy the misery of other people. Kronii didn't choose her model or outfit and has to deal with viewers that mock her for something that she couldn't control. Most people would have issues with their job if they were put in that situation.

>>41901763
This. The idol outfit probably was a compromise with Cover in order to get her to attend holofes.

>>41912785
Until after the drama she barely did any karaoke and half assed her one MV while actively playing fun games offline and only playing stuff she already beat on stream.
Kronii was very anti hololive and arguably anti vtuber in general.
Captch:PUM H0G

It’s been half a year and people are still upset about this

>>41918957
the VA does get input into their design/costumes

>>41918957
No, people should totally enjoy Kronii's misery. If she's going to join Hololive but then shit on the idol culture that it was founded on and get a tittymonster model but then be a total stick in the mud about it then she deserves her suffering and it should be turned in to an enjoyable public spectacle. Schadenfreude is justice.

>>41903173
She always wins the quiz collabs whenever there is one. Like it or not she's one of the smarter member in the branch

>>41918957
she could just do an inverse aqua and slowly nerf her badonkers

>>41911639
What a dumb whore, how much more undeserving can you get

>>41911639
Based. Imagine all the women who actually would have appreciated the job more but got beat out by a Canadian Korean chick who didn't know shit about what she was getting into.

>>41919657
Life is never fair

>>41906915
If only. I don't think she has that much self-awareness.

>>41901363
Nigga she literally complained about idol culture thinking it meant girlfriend simulator.... what the fuck are you on about?

>>41914994
That's a good essay post. Hope more anons see it

The amount of seething in this post, holy shit. Keep crying, she knows what she wants

>>41903339

>>41915217
Yeah with me

>>41914994
I thought this would just be some dumb TLDR post blindly defending Kronii but this actually explains the whole situation pretty well and why all the shitposting around her reached memetic levels of spite.

The "Unfortunately idol culture is a thing" line was more of a tangential issue she brought onto herself from misnterpreting the drama as some shipping issue. Poor phrasing and doubling down by commenting on a clipper's video resulted in that specific bit of clusterfuck.

>>41914994
/thread.

>>41914994
Did those members who voiced displeasure leave? Or did they stick around like good little paypigs?

>>41914994
source for "unfortunately idol culture is a thing"? I don't watch EN at all.

>>41914994
Perfect explanation.

>>41926865
Around 6 spreadsheet members left and then I'm sure a number of non spreadsheet members also left. However there are definitely a few cucks who stuck around, some of whom still bitch about her to this day when she does something they don't like. Sunk cost is real.

>>41898627
This is why I hate Japs.

>>41914994
You left out one key player

>>41928050
She left a comment on a clipnigger's channel. He disabled comments shortly after but I'm sure someone has a screenshot.

>>41928555
That's just speculation and rrats, there is no proof Mori talked to Kronii about any of that.

>>41918957
Kronii deserves misery for being such an entitled sack of shit who gets paid tens of thousands of dollars for barely any actual content and a shitload of whining about how her fans expect her to act professional

Kronii is the Nikocado of Vtubing

You guys ever stop to think that maybe you are the problem

>>41926865
Some left, some stayed.

>>41928395
>Sunk cost is real.
Pretty much.

>>41914994
Pretty good explanation. The fact Kronii went from seemingly understanding where some of her fans were coming from to just completely disregarding their concerns was baffling.

Personally I think it's a pretty poor attitude from someone who really hasn't done much in Hololive and has a reputation for being extremely slack with streaming. If she was pumping out content? Sure do it your way but the fact these people have been supporting her through the months of schedules full of "No delivery" only for her to tell them that they'll eat a shit sandwich and like it shows that she really doesn't give a shit about her fans, or feel any sense of obligation to provide content they're paying for. That's a pretty big character flaw for an entertainer.

Overall Kronii is just your typical self absorbed westernised gook.

>>41901574
by me

>forced feminisation of females
God that's so hot

>>41929693
This.

>>41901864
Anon...she's been in Japan for the last week

>>41898627
Force her into the trash. Troonii is an ugly dumpster troon that should 41% immediately.

>>41914994
sums up perfectly how i feel about her

>>41914994
>r*ddit spacing
Go the fuck back faggot.
YWNBAW kys, r*dditroon.

>join idol group
>complain about idol culture
?
shes just in it for the supachatto dollos innit

>>41919211
based take

>>41931593
>Using paragraphs is reddit spacing
Nope, lurk more newfag

>>41929693
will cover make her show her tits every stream?

>>41898627
>"Idol culture"
>not "Idol outfit"
Great reading comprehension there, OP.

She'd probably still say the same about idol culture today - creeps thinking they own you, having a nagging fear of getting kidnapped/raped/murdered by stalkers, and overgrown eight-year olds like yourself trying to seem contrarian and edgy by talking shit about you for no reason other than imaginary coolpoints - and there still wouldn't be a contradiction.

>>41931873
That's not forced feminization, anon.
That's just selling sex.

>>41929068
They should be disregarded when their concerns is that she shouldn't be allowed to collab or interact with males from her own company

>>41932556
>eight-year olds
UOOOOOOOH
T u T

>>41933604
my penis doesn't care

>>41898627
>"Unfortunately idol culture is a thing..."
the not interacting with m*les part of (you)r twisted interpretation of it

>>41932556
>idol culture
Cope. She's a part of it now whether she likes it or not.

>>41898627
vtubers are literally idols minus the talent

>>41933633
Why is collabing with the homos such a big deal? Look at their numbers, nobody likes them, nobody watches them, the only people pushing for collabs are twitter troons who don't like Hololive.

Her priority is doing her job and creating content the fans want not making friends and sucking homo dick

>>41932556
Why'd she join the vtubing group known for focusing on concerts, music and other idol activities then? Oh right she wants easy gachikoi money while acting like a whore. Not a good look. She easily could've applied to Niji but it doesn't pay as well.

>>41931820
>writing paragraphs
Go back faggot.

>>41935495
99% of their content has nothing to do with idol activities

>>41935305
i cant look at any hololive shit without the homo forcers forcing their homos everywhere
enough is enough i say

unsubbed from kronii and calli fuck em

>>41898627
Kronii wasn't talking about being an idol but with the not written in stone "mutual" agreement that idols are subjected to from "fans" the "culture" is the behavior of "fans" that comes when a talent steps outside those unwritten boundaries.
>>41906078
this is incorrect it is not a VTuber only problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP_g3LYUQOw
>>41902268
Cover doesn't care about dating in fact they can and if you do reps...well let's just say a lot of you would not be happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loO708q0ncg see also the cover (heh) they did for Rushia after Mafu leak

time for you guys to pack up and head to phase connect or something

>>41898627
instead of spamming the calalog why dont you lads spam her twitter?

>>41906078
>>41936242
interact with men all you want whore
i shant donate to thee, thot!

>>41936398
>spamming the catalog
All the new threads are about her new tweet. This on the other hand was made since 12 hours ago.

>>41898778
This, girls like Kronii and Anya need to be bullied into submission or just graduate, none of this middle ground shit

>>41914994
Your persecution complex is obvious and this portrayal of the situation is retroactive damage control after your oshi dumped you for being cringe. Like a one-sided account of a messy breakup.
“I was reasonable with her and explained my concerns” is code for “I got drunk and accused her of fucking every man in her office after realizing most of them are better looking than me.” Only in this case, you just drunkenly tweeted dox at her.

>>41936825
my point still stands, wouldnt be better to spam her twatter and her hastags to remind her of her own words? making a fuss here its meaningless anyway

>>41935305
>>41936200
You guys do know this is all on the girls, and maybe Yagoo, right?
/MANS/ is incredibly insular, and the general sentiment I've always found pre and post debut towards coed collabs is indifferent at worst, hoping the guys avoid it completely at best.
In my case StarsEN is the branch I watch the most, and I've always wanted Tempus to basically only ever collab with other guys, even if it meant going to vtubers I flat out do not like, such as Vox, to avoid schizo bullshit as well as avoid ruining the chemistry the guys have.
The only reason coed collabs happen is because one of the girls initiates it, the guys are on record saying they don't approach them for collabs.

Honestly I'm just glad everyone has seemed to learn their lesson, even if the reasons are shit, I'm glad the second wave hasn't had a single coed collab, nor does anyone seem interested in trying to do so.
I watch Stars EN for the lad culture dynamic they have, and Vesper for being "not utter fucking dogshit" at games, unlike 98% of Holomems across all branches. The last thing I ever wanted was that shit to get ruined, if you see someone encouraging cross gender collabs, remember it's pretty much 100% guaranteed to be some twitter or reddit troon.

>>41934632
It’s the norm in hololive and anyone trying to change that will get what they deserve.

>>41906915
That would take creativity, anon.

>>41937497
check out the comments on the collabs it's 95% people forcing coed garbage

they dont want idols they want holos to be corrupted vshojo whore sexworkers

>>41937619
t. discovered Hololive in 2020

>>41937883
I said /MANS/, the comments on collabs are obviously going to be praising it, given any criticism will get mobbed with hostility there. You can't even call someone a fucking nigger, on youtube, you think you can get away with trying to justify schizo delusional parasocial reasons for not wanting a girl to talk to guys?
Make no mistake, I don't like you guys. At all. But the people who want to force coed collabs, or outright ship entertainers just doing their fucking jobs, crosses a line for me. Said line being
>ruining the content I like
I know it's hard for you to wrap your head around how I can possibly have this stance towards coed garbage, but Tempus is at its best when it's not coed, so honestly schizos, unicorns, and goslings have my full support in anti'ing and sabotaging that shit.

>>41928651
Well Mori made "that tweet" on the same day the company statement came out so it looked pretty fucking spiteful.
They met for a spa trip during her week break so Kronii definitely fell victim to the influence of Leantongue

this is some next level coping from clucks

>>41938476
Based

>>41938476
I forgot to add this, but I back my claim up of hostility or dissidence getting mobbed, by pointing to the time Lia outright flirted with a guy on stream for 20 minutes, and the chat was lauding her.
It isn't genuine praise, it's just fear fear of them shooting the tall poppy. 4chan isn't a niche website, it has massive influence on the internet and its culture. If you want to know how people really feel about something popular, go to Anonymous image boards, and you'll see.
And in this case, it's

>People who actually watch the boys:
indifferent, and prefer it wasn't a thing

>People who actually watch the girls:
hate it, and want it to stop

I haven't been paying too much attention though, but as said earlier, the lack of any coed shit in wave 2 seems to indicate the best outcome is what we'll all get.

>>41938476
i dont give a crap about tempus
i dont even want to see them or hear about them or think about them

im an idol fan and hololive are idols
and idols do NOT collab with men
they can be on the same stream as a male like going on a comedy program or something but collabing is way to intimate, basically makes them a used whore in my mind

>>41939207
Shut up and read what I wrote.
I want the same shit you do, just for actually good reasons. If you can't get your head out your ass and just fucking install https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/youtube-cleaner/ to effectively eliminate Tempus entirely from your life, from here on, then you're such a knuckle dragging cromagnon that I'm baffled your ass hasn't rotted off from failure to wipe.

>>41939401
im quoting you but not actually responding to you
i didnt even ready your posts

ive already blocked all the homos

>>41937467
A real man would Akasupa her to her face and tell her what to do, but you know these guys are too poor to do that

>>41934299
Well my penis does

>>41939000
>the lack of any coed shit in wave 2
give it two more weeks and we are going to see a 'holoproEn' wide event or at least something equivalent of the worms tournament. They cant let tempus2 or whatever they are called die on the vine like this it would look too bad.

>>41914994
>Then less than a day later, she did this tweet, disappeared for a week, and when she came back said she would collab with whoever, whenever, and that was the end of it
You just know Mori talked to her and told her "fuck the fans, do what you want"

>>41914994
She only did the about-face because she commented on a Vesper tweet about his underwear. The unikronies did not like that and threw a shitfit. At that specific point in time is when she decided, "Ok, fuck this." Took a two week break and more than likely discussed with the rest of EN/management how to go about it. Ultimately her decision was that she did not want to cater to people who would go crazy at the slightest interaction.

>>41901363
They hated him because he spoke the truth. Have a good night, anon. Fuck (You) drama pedalling retards

>>41940299
Didn't one of them outright say this was the case?

>>41940299
Mori's already got a contract lined with with vshojo
spent a few days with them in japan just check ksons fishing vid

>>41924894
>complained about idol culture thinking it meant girlfriend simulator
You do realize you're on /vt/, right? This shithole is full of schizo unicorns who unironically think that 'idol culture' and 'girlfriend simulator' are interchangeable, and where 'interacting with a male' and 'raw unprotected sex for the purpose of procreation while you watch' are interchangeable. Unfortunately for her, those schizos exist in her fanbase as well. She didn't just pull shit out her ass, she said that because for some people in her fanbase, it's literally true.

this guy doesn't even know what an idol is

>>41940861
>The unikronies did not like that and threw a shitfit.
It's probably worth mentioning that they threw a shitfit because, when she said "I don't really interact with the guys on twitter", they heard "I promise I will never EVER even THINK about interacting with them on twitter", and they got upset because she 'lied' and 'broke a promise' she didn't even make.

>>41914994
KEK troon seething
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=Basically+Kronii+did+not+have+a+lot+of+things

>>41945804
?

>>41919155
half a year and she still didnt apologize or explain herself but retards here are still coping that she didnt mean any of the things she said and her siding with twitter troons against her fans didnt happen but if it did happen it was good actually

>>41943844
>"I don't really interact with the guys on twitter"
Except she said she wouldn't initiate, and that's not just on Twitter. Why do you have to change the narrative to make your argument sound better? Oh wait.

>>41898627
I'm glad that Cover is forcing this on her lmao

>>41945804
literally said stealing an essaypost retard

>>41945804
Everyone knows that post has been copy-pasted many times. Anon even mentioned it on the first line.

>>41946521
She excitedly invited her new kouhais to Hololive.
You lost your shit (and get the fuck outta here with this “respectfully explained to her how you felt” narrative, I was there).
She tried to meet you halfway and told you she wouldn’t go to them for collabs.
She responded to one of her kouhais on Twitter.
You lost your shit again.
She said “fine, go fuck yourself” and never looked back.
There, I summed it up in about 10,000 less words. Only you don’t appear like a poor downtrodden hero in this version.

>>41898627
>"look ma I'm an idol"
She seems so fake with her le ironic humor in her recent tweet. It's like she's pained to even express any excitement over it.

>>41940861
>>41943844
>>41947263
Go ahead and name the "Kronies" that threw a shitfit over the boxer tweet on her Twitter. Gabe maybe? I don't even know if he commented on that tweet DESU. Most of it was just fucking trolls trying to push "culture war" from the outside.

>>41901574
Yeah? She thought that by sitting in her room and surrounding herself with beta males she could make bank without having to prostitute herself like every woman that does her hair and makeup before squeezing herself into a pencil skirt each morning?

>>41947263
>You
You're assuming I'm one of her paypigs who got uppity over this. Best part? You sound just as assmad over this as they were at the time lmao

>>41901574
And that's a good thing.

>>41903173
Kronii is the smartest chuuba in HoloEN.

>>41914994
Holy shit, now this is gaslighting. Any and every post that makes kronii's unicorns out to be the victim in all this is either kidding themselves or a unicorn themselves. The issue was always the unicorns for doing this to themselves. As proof, notice how there was absolutely no problem UNTIL she collabed with males. Her retarded unicorns insisted the issue wasn't the collab itself but the fact she didn't post the schedule until after the collab (or right as it started, I don't remember that specific detail); treating
it as a "communication" issue. Had any of them dug around a bit, they'd know everyone involved in that collab had already posted their schedules which included it. I even saw some anons here posting those other schedules as some kind of "gotcha!" to the ones pedalling the "male hating, lesbian, tranny kronii" rrat. The point is, everyone already knew damn well it was going to happen ahead of time. Only her unicorns decided to pretended not to know, using it as mask to hide that what they were actually seething about was the fact that she collabed with males (and laughed a little too hard for their taste kek. Nevermind that she was laughing AT the boys' misfortune, not exactly with them). Kronii didn't notice this façade on time(**this will be important later)and made the mistake of giving them a chance to explain their displeasure. On and on the unikronies tried to insist it was a criticism on her miscommunication until a few based(though pathetic) unikronies made it clear the issue they had was with the collab in general. That's when more kronies decided to take the mask off and agree with them. That's when kronii noticed she was dealing with actual parasocial incels(or was at the very least made aware some of them were in the chat). That's where the "female friends" and "idol culture" quotes came in. Clearly to kronii, all she did was collab with her new coworkers, so what's the big deal? She must have seen a significant amount of schizo posts talking about getting cheated on or how she was basically flirting with the boys the entire stream(she almost had beef with the blue one at the start. ffs, watch streams) so she must have thought that shipping was the issue. She wasn't too far off, the issue was that people with cuck mentalities convinced themselves that's what was going on. Basically, she tried dealing with schizos on that unarchived member's stream. You can't win with those fucks. But even after all that, she laid out some terms
>she would NOT stop doing male collabs, she would not initiate them, probably not tweet to them that much, and she would not stream her POV to them
**However, these conditions were made under the impression that she was dealing with people who weren't unicorns and actually critical of her not communicating better. Those conditions was her proof and first attempt at communicating better with her fans by letting them know beforehand. And that should have been it, but the unikronies mask was already falling off and they were getting their grievance script all wrong. The only consistent grievance was the collab itself and the only difference it had with all prior collabs she did was the fact that it was with males.
It was made painfully clear that really was the only actual issue they had with the whole thing so she stopped giving a fuck about this unicorn group and in no uncertain terms came out and said she'll fo what she wants. Those unicorns and shitposters are still seething months later.
Kronies were the ones who decided to latch on to some parasocial aspect. You can't blame kronii for her fans' interpretation of the movies she did a watchalong for; that's entirely a community/meme thing. And like hell kronii didn't have anything going for her when she started, she had her persona like the rest of council. The same way fauna was the soft speaking motherly one, mumei the "dumb" forgetful one, kronii was the cold narcissist. As time went of you could see she had a gap moe going on as a meme lover and somewhat of a fucking brat. by the looks of it, it still works, she's got 15k ccv playing the autism block game as I type this and has held that for at least an hour. The only thing I don't understand is the "tweeting at them" condition. Was she talking about it in terms of not initiating a conversation with them(as in, not being one to start a thread) or as in not tweeting at them at all? Because if you're gonna collab and the participants tweet about it, it's almost guaranteed that the participants of that collab will comment on it with each other publicly. I don't know what the thought process was with that one

>>41947263
>Only you don’t appear like a poor downtrodden hero in this version.
Nah that just makes Kronii sound even more like a callous asshole.

she is on shitlist

>>41943844
Faggot, don't change her words, she said:
I won't interact with them publicly, not really on twitter, maybe I pop on their streams, etc"

https://files.catbox.moe/8684g7.mp4

She clearly promised to not interact on twitter and this was NOT the only time she said it, she said it 2 more times during the stream.

And that's the last time i get involved in another kronii seethe timeloop. I'm gonna go watch streams

>>41947555
Is this also a pasta?

>>41947555
>that awful spacing (or lack thereof)
This has to be pasta just copy-pasted in such a terrible way, right? No way you'd format your post this way and expected anyone to read through it.

>collabs with homos
>becomes the top EN chuuba in terms of CCV

Meanwhile unisharts have to make imaginary fantasies about her suddenly being "forced" to wear a cute outfit, even though that was on her contract from day one.

>>41947719
>I wont initiate collabs
>Nor I'm gonna interact with them in public
Goddamn, she straight up lied to their faces.

>>41947719
>caring about Twitter

>>41947555
she made the vesper underwear tweet within hours of her "compromise" deal. Not only was that male interaction but it was one of the most unprofessional ways of interacting with a male. Good story though.

>>41947719
>https://files.catbox.moe/8684g7.mp4
Yikes. Why do her most ardent defenders always seem to forget what she actually said? Funny that simply posting the actual stream as-is exposes them as two-faced liars. I guess the streamer really does make the chat.

>>41947898
Kronii is the first tranny idol, Im so proud sis

>>41947719
>She clearly promised to not interact on twitter
Point to her saying “I promise not to interact on Twitter.”
Those words. Not some noncommittal stream-of-consciousness statement of intent from an unscripted conversation.
And let’s cut the bullshit for a second. You don’t actually care about her breaking a promise, as this anon already handed you your ass on >>41947555
When she lied early on and told her fans “I’m not addicted to Minecraft,” you didn’t shit your diaper like a crying toddler at the sight of her bunker.
There’s only one reason you felt as “betrayed” as you did. And it’s not her breaking an imaginary promise.

>>41947857
Nah. I just have insomnia and can't be bothered to play into this shit anymore. Watch what you wanna watch, just don't come in and shit everywhere while others are trying to enjoy

>>41947555
I'm a unicorn and I'm more sane than you, I don't need to do this much convincing to justify my views, it's not hat complex, it's all in your head, schizophrenic.

>>41948125
Picrel

>>41948246
watch the video, retard, it's literally linked.

>>41948202
>first tranny idol
You don't know enough about Japan and Korea to know this has been claimed.

>>41948401
mention one

>>41948246
>>41947555
>samefagging this hard
You're not convincing anyone son

>>41948246
>“I’m not addicted to Minecraft,”
Now wait, hold up. Why the fuck do you think anyone would be genuinely mad about this or even consider it as "lying"? This reads more like some ironic joke, which is par for the course with Kronii's deadpan humor. You'd have to be ESL to even equate the two statements.

>>41947719
Mori taught her well

>>41948246
>this anon
lol you're not fooling anyone

>>41948571
Like a true senpai.

>>41948502
Buddy it ain't me

>>41948246
She didn't promised anything. She just said she didn't felt like doing it.

>>41948334
I asked for something other than noncommittal stream-of-consciousness statements of intent, anon.
Where’s the promise?
>>41948514
Why do you care that she participated in asynchronous social media with her kouhai if not for your claim that she “lied” to you about it? Or are you now dropping the pretense that you care about the “lie”?
Try to answer without crying.

>>41947555
>damage controlling this hard
Holy shit, go the fuck back to r*ddit you seething retard.

>>41947555
You are the ultimate gaslighting anon.
>All the unicorns are schizos!!!
That generalization is the real gaslighting.

>>41948767
>She can't be trusted at her words.
You're just proving my point.

unfortunately, genderfluid is a thing

>>41942475
What I hate more than that are CGDCTfags, who pretend that 3dpd women with anime avatars are just like their chinese animus. Anime and manga are all scripted, whereas streams are usually long improv performances. To equate the two is to completely miss the point of both mediums

>>41948958
Yeah he is at it for months, It's probably some troon like gantai or that nigger kromeifor. Can't see how ridiculous he looks doing that much rationalization and literal propaganda.

>>41948958
Unicorns are schizos tho. Who else would get so emotionally invested in a streamer larping as an anime character? This goes beyond just watching and enjoying streams

>>41948996
She is the patron deity of Tempus after all.

>>41948959
Lol, you’re falling apart.
If you and Kronii went to divorce court, and you presented that conversation as a “broken promise,” Kronii’s lawyer would slaughter you like a dumb lamb in front of the judge with a few simple questions.
>”What was the context of this “promise” and did she use the words “I promise” or “I swear”?
>”Did she make this “promise” while being pressured by you to make a commitment that she hadn’t planned on making?”
>”How did the conversation come up in the first place?”
Something tells me you’d be screeching and crying after about a minute of questioning.

>>41949512
Gabe is the only schizo, even Aliaga Ayin who was the closest thing to an Unicorn wasn't a schizo. And Gabe was a schizo from the start, not because of Kronii.

>>41898778
>>41937222
based
go be a niji if you don't want to do idol stuff

>>41949512
How do you watch and enjoy streams without being emotionally invested? Are you a robot or something? I don't believe unicorn beliefs are very surprising at all because the opposite gender will always be attractive to them.

>>41941938
Mori said she was talking to Kronii behind the scenes. Given the fact Kronii immediately made a public announcement she was backtracking with a tweet on return and the fact Mori is renowned for her attitude of doing stupid shit to "own the haters" the idea that Mori gave Kronii a nudge towards doing more homo collabs is an educated guess

>>41898778
>crybully
Your internet poisoning diagnosis results came back. I'm sorry, but it looks like it's terminal.

Kronii's ability to trigger /vt/ over the dumbest shit will always be entertaining

>>41949769
why did kronies always blame mori?she can always say no

>>41949756
Men expect their wives to interact with other men, be it at work, at church, at the store, or just as friends. Kronii isn’t even your acquaintance, let alone friend or lover.
You are mentally ill.

>>41949652
Mental illness.

>>41949205
The ESL ones might be Rice.

>>41949652
>divorce court
Learn to not take it too far, again with the crazy rationalization. I'll say it again it's not that as complex, being a shitty person is not a crime, just reflects bad on her character and whoever disliked her actions is justified to.

>>41949988
I'm not a unicorn, I only explain their views.
By the way, some unicorns are okay with off-stream male interactions.

>>41949988
>having standard is now mentally ill

>>41949988
>Men expect their wives to interact with other men, be it at work, at church, at the store, or just as friends
You mean Western "men".

>>41950098
> being a shitty person is not a crime, just reflects bad on her character
That’s quite the leap.
What about making a noncommittal statement of intent which she subsequently changed her mind on made her a “shitty person”? Who did it hurt?

>>41950151
What standard? She's a streamer. She streams. She collabs. That's what they do. You don't have to watch. My only question is why seethe about it months after the fact?

>>41950292
You have to watch out for falseflaggers. There are many trolls and shitposters who want to bring down Kronii by using this.

>>41950207
Do you expect her to live in her own society where women are the ones running all necessary services just so she doesn't interact with men? Jokes aside, I really can't imagine a situation where women can go without interacting with another man that doesn't involve her being under permanent house arrest

>>41950292
who is seething? thats troon army for antagonizing unicorn. Even Gabe is now focusing on football

>>41950207
Even Muhammad allowed his wives to talk to men, retard.

New info dropped. Kronii is depressed that Sally is having a kid with her husband and feels awkward about if their relationship will be the same after. This isn't like the fake depression she puts on and feels like real sadness for her. Sounds like she wants a baby with how angry and jealous she was talking about it.

>>41950448
How do you even know what he's doing? ffs why is everyone obsessed with that loser?

>>41950211
>What about making a noncommittal statement of intent which she subsequently changed her mind on made her a “shitty person”? Who did it hurt?
That's what a lie is, I don't need to explain why it makes someone a shitty person, even Kronii herself would conceded to that.

>>41950429
Well that would apply to married women. For menial work there are slaves.

>>41950131
Then they're not real unicorns m8

>>41950292
>>41950429
You're coming up with increasingly insane false-equivalences to dance around the point that all criticism of a vtuber comes down to whether people enjoy watching them stream.
You can shriek all you want about how a girl "has" to stream with men as though it's an essential part of vtubing and no-Hololive ever has avoiding collabing with males, but it won't make people change their minds. When someone says they don't like Kronii anymore because they don't find her new content entertaining you just blue screen.

>>41950486
Muhammad was a shitlib in comparison with the ancient Greeks.

>>41950525
He just has social autism like the rest of 4chan, only tronii hate him.

>>41949988
I'm sorry your wife is talking about other mens boxer shorts, it's not normal to be ok with that, you're not normal

It's also not normal to explain your concerns to someone in a relationship and have them say "I'll do whatever the hell I want". That's an abusive relationship

>>41950584
>I don't need to explain
I accept your concession.

>>41950733
>anon strongly identifies with the gayest society in world history
Yikes.

>>41950724
Hey both are me for a change. If you're enjoyment comes down to how much of a girlfriend/boyfriend substitute a streamer is, you're doing it wrong and are setting yourself up for disappointment. That's not on the streamer themselves. And I didn't say she has to stream with guys. She can if she wants to. It's the unicorns who have a huge issue with that claim. And it's not that they don't find her "new" content entertaining or enjoyable. They no longer like her because they can't use her as some girlfriend stand in anymore. They're pretending to be cucks and are insufferable for it. Call them stupid for such thought process and they will come up with all the tired schizo victimization spiels to justify it instead of just fucking off to do something else like any normal person

>>41950724
>You can shriek all you want about how a girl "has" to stream with men
He’s not shrieking, and didn’t say they have to. He said it’s not a big deal, and you’ve been shitting your diaper and trying to exaggerate how badly Kronii hurt you for months.
This behavior makes you a faggot that women find unappealing.

>>41951078
If that's what you want to hear, lol, not even worth replying.

>>41918957
Shouldn't have applied to the idol larp company then.

>>41951194
It's only gay if you are bottom.

>>41949652
>If you and Kronii went to divorce court
Anon, you need therapy or meds.

>>41951499
I mean, it's not like they're actually physically wearing it..

>>41951278
>>41951305
This is like arguing with children because you're completely incapable of recognising that other people have different opinions and values than your own. You don't have to agree with them, but the first step to being able to have an actual discussion is to understand what the person on the other side of the table values and at least acknowledge that.

>>41951078
Well, I guess there's no need to argue over what a terrible person she is if we both agree then.

>>41898627
>forces her into an idol outfit
Heh, serves her right.

>>41951659
>applies mentally ill standard to Kronii that she must act like a faithful housewife
>gets assblasted when that standard is used against him
Hmm.
>>41951770
>what a terrible person she is
Hyperbole about how sour the grapes are is what betrays your true feelings, Mr. Fox.

>>41951739
>"muh differences" cop out
That is literally the "nuh uh, now stop talking" childlike reaction but for adults. Are you seriously that unaware? It's not like I'm arguing for the sake of arguing but holy fuck, why go this far to justify unicorn behavior when it's known to never end well?

>>41952385
Sometimes it ends really well. But good news don't make the headlines. Only the drama gets the attention.

>>41952375
Anon I'm just trying to help with the amount of mental gymnastics you're pulling here. Meds now.

>>41906915
I would unironically start watching all her streams if this was the case.

Her post-tempiss apology ASMR was golden, and a full thread of comments reminding us that she was probably cutting herself afterwards in disgust was the cherry on top. This is the perfect "How to turn antis into watchers" in a single Uno reversal indeed.

>>41903173
weak response

>>41952515
I'm not joking either. I really do think it has its own fucked up appeal. Sadly, I'm not sure if Kronii has it in her to pull off something like that, at least not intentionally so.

>>41952375
>gets assblasted
Anon, we're not the ones doing mass replies and writing mountains of greentext here.

>>41952515
If that's the case, she's already doing it. And it's working. The thing is, that's NOT what she's doing and it's working anyway. There's really no reason for her to change what she's doing since it looks like it's working out well for her

>>41906915
>>41952515
>>41952742
Pic-related. She was probably gritting her teeth as she typed that.

why are you all so fucking insane
jesus christ at least i know none of you will ever procreate and raise children

>>41952385
I just hate seeing you sprout your hypocritical garbage across the board and weasel your way through every discussion doing nothing but insult anyone who tries to engage you in good faith.

>>41952721
That’s it? That’s your Rocky underdog uppercut? After I raped you up and down this thread? “You wrote a lot, so you lose”?
Remind me who wrote this novel and is posting it repeatedly like they got a commission from a publishing company:
>>41914994
You don’t get to play that card when it’s obvious you’re just kinda mad and flailing.

>>41953117
dropping in from the catalog
literally just ignore threads like this, there's nothing to be gained

>>41953230
I'm not even the anon you were arguing with before. I can simply tell that you're REALLY into this for some odd reason or another, so I'm just trying to help. I'm sorry to say but Kronii will never fuck you no matter how hard you want to happen.

>>41953311
But it's fun and makes for comfy discussions

>>41953361
>I don’t even care
Sure.
I also have no desire to fuck Kronii, which is why I don’t write rambling manifestos about how she betrayed my love.

>>41901574
Rape correction, one might even say.

>>41953463
>I don't care
And where did I type that? I'm just concerned for your health anon. You're way too into this.

>>41952928
>>41952742
>>41952667
Certainly agreed that the hatewatchers are probably becoming a sizable portion of her fan(?)base.

At least personally I was never much of a Kronii watcher (thus not really even invested in the Vesper drama, as I probably find him to be the only tolerable homo.)

Yet, there's just so much additional appeal (esp knowing she's a prude SJW normie who hates her viewers) that she has to force herself to put on a saccharine sweet yet blatantly fake GFE stream while holding back tears/self-disgust/hatred for her audience.

Perhaps I have been corrupted by pic related, but that contrast is what makes it peak quality: her inner disdain vs management coercing her into pretending she enjoys it. Absolute diamonds and peak fetish as emotional non-con (especially when you know its not just an act, but actually genuinely how she feels).

>>41906476
She definitely didn't. No sarcasm. Probably thought it would be a fun gig and probably didn't think she would get it either way.

>>41953641
>Perhaps I have been corrupted by pic related
Nah I completely get you. Also that pic is pretty much the exact kind of appeal that I was referring to (love that "series"). Though you have a point, maybe the fact that she's genuinely not into it makes it even better in a fetishistic sort of way.

>>41953126
Hating me for whatever image you made up of me in your head is exactly the kind of schizo bs this board needs less of. If you actually cared about the state of the board you'd he against it as well but apparently unicorn schizos are ok because they're just different or something. Up until about an hour ago, this is the only thread I've posted in today yet in the mind of these kronii seethers I've been doing this everywhere and have been doing it for months. Good faith my ass

>>41954082
Truly a man of culture to embrace Kronii as the quintessential anti-oshi.

A haughty prideful coom-bait model is the perfect target for such schadenfreude? To be degraded and humiliated before the masses is a fitting end for such a disdainful ojou-sama? Haven't seen such poetic justice since Enna's Queen of Spades.

Perhaps its a combination of every dark fetish, but just thinking about the combination of the justice boner of putting her in her place, and the coercion of forcing her into prostrating herself before the incel unicorns she despises so much....

>>41949908
Because Kronii is insecure as hell so a senpai that is being pushy and with some sort of authority in their persona could probably pretty easily push Kronii in a certain direction.
Especially in this scenario when she is already in confused+panic mode

>>41947555
kys faggot. Not reading that poorly formatted wall of schizoid rambling about "da unicronzzzz"

Fact is Kronii sucked long before homo collabs, the homo collabs were just the big dump of diarrhea most people needed to stop defending her garbage schedules

>>41906078
>Seiyuu
>Regular idols
Dunno about you, but some of them (male or female) get a little more than normal attention.

>>41901363
Hi Kronie

>>41947719
Yes, Kronii fucked up here by saying "I won't talk to them anymore" but according to her own chat in this members only stream, they wanted her to do what she wanted and to not be that extreme in the first place.

>>41906078
>She didn't know what she was talking about. Idol culture does not equal "talent I follow cannot interact with men". That's something that is totally unique to vtuber fans.
Because vtubing/streaming in general is kind of unique in that it relies on making/faking a personal connection with their audience. Obviously there's too many people to give everyone individual attention but most people are content with being an amalgamated blob/person ("chat") since they're all equally anonymous to their oshi. One person getting more attention than everyone else is always going to get a lot of pushback, especially if that person is in direct contact with her.

I will suck Kronii's clock no matter what she says, my futanari wife is cute idol or otherwise
Also, streams have an off button, I don't care for tempus so I don't watch the collabs simple as
Luv me Council
Luv me clocks
Luv me paizuri
'Ate tribalists
'Ate tempus (not racist just don't like em)
'Ate antis
Simple as

>>41901732
>>41901763
>>41901784
>>41901817
>>41901889
>>41901915
>>41903146
>>41909101
>>41914135
>>41914306
>>41924894
>Responding to the idea of het ships and how shippers shouldn't do that because of idol culture.
>"Unfortunately for you, idol culture is a thing, so you can't just ship me with the boys"
Now kill yourselves, again.

>>41957923
close but no
>For those saying there's a double standard between same-sex and opposite-sex shipping. Yes, there unfortunately there is because idol culture is a thing and some people can get heated about it, take things far and take it out on the talents directly.

>>41901363
hi kronii
did collecting dicks now are you, nice whoredom here we come. there's 4 new fag dicks to collect to become the futaronii faggot fker !

>>41958666

>>41958666
Would you like to fucking try again with proper English? Nijizhangji peasant.

>>41958734
>>41958849
the land whale, makes it's appearance
the most unwanted group of females lesser then a hooker, it's rages as it does ESL seethes, as that's all it can do

>>41958886
mate, I can't even tell if you're an ESL or having an aneurysm as you type

>>41958666
Satan I thought you would have better English by now

>>41959011
>>41958972
MacDonalds
diet coke?
sugar on everything?
obese is just a personal choice????
what's this whale screeching i am trying to decipher ? all i hear is lards.

>>41959083

>>41951739
These people aren’t even worth your pity. They act like it would be normal for a show about cute girls to just change genres, and add 8 cringe faggots after a year and expect people to accept it.

That one motherfucker is obsessed with suicide. Typical kronie.

>>41898627
>>forces her into an idol outfit
sexy

>>41901363
>Your oshi, who thinks shes too good for idol culture AS AN IDOL, is forced into it for my entertainment and all you can do is grind your teeth on a chinese basket weaving forum while Cover rakes in the cash.
Im looking forward to the corruption arc of her career, are you?

>>41901574
all me

>>41898627
You faggots fight over the dumbest shit imaginable. You remind me of, may Allah forgive me for uttering this dreadful word - French.

She WILL continue to earn money from people and you WILL watch her despite all this bullshit. Don't kid yourselves, you know you will. I know this might shock your unemployed, retarded, no friends, no future-having ass but if you move on to better things than this time-wasting garbage, your life will get better.

Provided you don't kill yourselves of course because of your crippled self-esteem.

>300+ posts
autism

>>41950733
based

>>41951567
the twinks know their place, bottom of society

>>41962533
>corruption
if any, it's the opposite. Cover mold her back to a feminine woman

>>41915035
as of now i started disliking fauna just to make you wrong

>>41898627
I hate Kronii as much as the next guy does but for once I feel bad for her.