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* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>76,524: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>70,079: Suisei (Hololive)>53,737: Marine (Hololive)>34,446: Pomu (Nijisanji)>30,690: Gaku (Nijisanji)>27,668: Pekora (Hololive)>26,815: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>25,985: Subaru (Hololive)>24,157: Meruto (Nijisanji)>23,601: Mimi (VSPO)>23,045: Koyori (Hololive)>20,375: Nerumero (Indie)>18,742: Watame (Hololive)>18,335: Noel (Hololive)>16,723: Towa (Hololive)>16,182: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,516: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>15,003: Botan (Hololive)>14,914: Met (774 inc)>14,239: Subaru (Hololive)>14,050: Kanata (Hololive)>13,644: Mumei (Hololive)>13,378: Lamy (Hololive)>12,328: Korone (Hololive)>11,694: KAF (Kamitsubaki)>11,434: Salome (Nijisanji)>11,208: Okayu (Hololive)>11,183: Ito Life (Indie)>10,451: Koyori (Hololive)
This is the first Haachama VOD to cross 100k since September 28, 2022.Surely she got boosted for this one and anon saying it could be a "Mumei boost" might be onto something.More likely tho it is the indirect Pekora + Kanata influence, given that Pekora went to return the Haachama book and pin it on Kanata to control her room mate
I don't think roboco will hit 10k :(
why is JP7 called holoX instead of 7th gen? are they not going to use gen numbering anymore?
>>41905396Why don't the West make male Vtuber like this anymore? Like, just a normal dudeEven Kuzuha is literally just a vampire in a tracksuit and Toya is just your local art student
>>41905468>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 20238) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 20239) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 59,617 - Apex CR cup22) Toya (Nijisanji) - 53,947 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Leos23) Pekora (Hololive) - 39,786 - Cooking stream24) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,726 - Minecraft25) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,769 - Viewer room reviews26) Suisei (Hololive) - 54,206 - New hairstyle reveal27) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,333 - GeoGuessr tournament w/Nene, Subaru & Noel28) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 76,524 - Project Sekai tournament>PER COMPANY20x: Hololive7x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER13x: Pekora2x: Kuzuha, Towa1x: Hololive, Koyori, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro
Is there a reason why Niji tournaments are so insular or they conduct their tournaments only with themselves? It doesn't seem like they got much out of it, their numbers are still shit.
>>41905472It's JP6 for one and>HoloRoku (Holo Six)>HoRoku>Horox>HoloxVery few people know but Gen 4 has a similar "codename">HoloForcecoming rougly from>Holo + Four
>Roberu has nude model they shoved off in homogra
>>41905396>>41905404Why can't holostars have a simple but memorable design like this one?
>>41905385Natural in the same way as shitting yourself is natural
>>41905385holy based last post
I just got reminded Gwelu exist, what happened to him? The vacation is taking longer than expected
>>41905472anon your gen numbering reps...
>>41905624He is getting divorced
>>41905514If you take out the first army Nijisanji actually wins. Food for thought.
>>41905663They don't. They would still be 14-13-1
>>41905624Should've sang a different song
>>41905663>If you take away gold Nijisanji would get goldNice way to say Nijisanji is behind them
/#/ is declining
>>41905555Gen 4 was almost HoloEarth. They only changed it because it sounded like HoloAss when the Japanese tried to say it. HoloFive was meant to be the name for Gen 5 but it was killed in its crib. HoloFantasy also exists, but they only seem to occasionally remember that name.
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>>41905562they all do anon
What was the Irl number capacity for Okayu last sololive?
>>41905702That's is essentially a coin flip. 50-50 nijisanji is winning.
>>41905780Just look at the cripple tally if you want to remove first army that badlyGura gone gives you your 50-50
HoloCHADS how did Suisei lose to inferior Niji!!!????
>>41905555Does Gokisei have a codename that isn't the literal Holofive?
>>41905562My son is becoming a whore ... No ...
>>41905750It's incredibly weird that Cover keeps using the name when every other gen's branding was dropped, even sankiseiThe idol outfit reveal ran through numbered gens 0-5 then suddenly SECRET SOCIETY HOLO X
>>41905663Reminder that by this metric, Koyori is confirmed first armyI love her!
>>41905840Originally it was HoloFive, but after Aloe's swift departure they've gone by NePoLaBo
>>41905863I blame the lore autists in EN managementProbably convinced JP side this is the way forward
>>41905562The cute comment in English that doesn't fit the situation at all is just too perfect
>>41905468test
>>41905470>is the first Haachama VOD to cross 100k since September 28, 2022.chammers.....
my cute wife
>>41905750I mean even Sankisei themselves have referred to themselves as "Sankisei" since the beginningWho can stop them?
>>41905624He's brewing a new shitpost.
>>41905780kek, if you remove the First Army, vaporize their audience, nuke COVER HQ, kidnap Pekora, unbraid her hair, break her fingers, lock her into a soundproof box, cover it with a chicken wire mesh for form a Faraday cage and ship her to Afghanistan to become some Taliban warlord wife that will forbid her from studuying or using the internet, then maybe>MAYBENijisanji can tie
>>41905863They tried to make rokisei the new face of hololive for the future, so they shilled them non stopToo bad Laplus turned out to be a dud
>>41905396This is how you design a brotuber
It has been a full day and Fauna still has not acknowledged her idol outfit despite being online after it was released. She genuinely doesn't belong in Hololive. She has absolutely no idol spirit and no respect for the senpai that got her there. She shows up on Twitter, delays her stream with a flimsy lie about how her "brain isn't working", doesn't talk about her idol outfit at all, retweets nothing about it and shows no enthusiasm whatsoever. Because she doesn't actually give a shit. Fuck Cover for hiring her, fuck cover for giving her an outfit, and fuck all her lobotomized fans who can't actually think for themselves and instead just mindlessly throw money at her and watch her trash streams when she deserves it the least.
>>41905960>>41905912>>41905863Reminder this is yet another thing Niji do that whoever is in charge of recruitment learnt from
>>41905468Suisex? More like SUISUX
>>41905472HoloX is gen 6. I know because Chloe's greeting namedrops "rokkisei" and her design contains a belt with "06".
>>41905945Kiara similarly turned on EN management and now frequently refers to Myth as gen 1
>>41905981him and maimoto are based
>>41905981This ain't bro, this is my managerKuzuha and Toya look more like my bros
>>41905981I don't think that's how eyes work
>>41905472Yes gen numbering is only for real idol group, hololive have part way from idol culture, that's why holoX and EN don't use gens
this is why everyone makes fun of you robocosan
>>41906000Probably because they frequently introduces themselves as EN1 in japanese
what is this?https://twitter.com/hololive_goods/status/1618890937341710336
Someone really cares about Fauna huh.
So no graduation this month? Are they gonna fire 2 in February?
>>41906056i miss you sio
>>41906056I make fun of her because she is a dumb sexy bimbo
>>41906000I think she only really does that in japanese
So this is what nousagi look like huh, fun fanbase
>>41905562I think they all do, I remember the myth girls talking about Gura once showing off hers. Here is a clip of Ina bringing it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5XTPvVfOyIAlso holy shit 1.3 million views, those were the golden days.
>>41906067Itajaga, they're a snack that includes a trading card. Bandai does a lot of those things
>>41905981Look perfect
swagapino status?
>>41906159Pegor needs to wear that mask more, and emote more for that matterwatching her and marine play RE6 back then it was pretty noticeable how Marine would frequently change expressions as needed while Pekora just maintained her :> face the whole stream
>>41905921>>41905468bigger
>>41906056Can anyone introduce bedwars meta to the nipsThey need to level up their mc autism
>>41906217>>41905468smaller
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIWFkkBM5DUNew Suisei single is a banger, but it definitely hits harder live.
>>41905981NEETbros I don't identify with this man.
>>41906250Bedwars is garbage, if you want PvP hunger games or race for the wool are superior
>>41906277Steal your dad's buttoned shirt and lanyard while he's at work
>>41905981Even Nijisanji doesn't design males like this anymore
>>41906268>>41905468
>>41905993
>>41906023Incidentally, they both are designed by the same artist. Maybe Cover should hire him for Holostars? https://twitter.com/otototo_
>>41906277But can you identify with Kuzuha?
>>41906346>>41905468
>>41906370>checks gallerywhat a terrible day to have eyes
>>41906208Pekora can only focus on one thing at a time so it happen
>>41906370Uhhh that twitter looks a bit gay
>>41906392>>41905468>>41906383I'm not in a serious relationship with my mom's drinking buddy, so no.
>>41906370>baraMaybe I would've expected that a bit more if Maimoto and Yashiro had thicker eye brows
>>41905981>This is how you design a brotuber>>41906023>him and maimoto are based>>41905498>Why don't the West make male Vtuber like this anymore? Like, just a normal dudeBecause they're FUCKING DUMB! I can only imagine how much Vesper could have been improved if, instead of "we've got Alucard at home", he would have this model>pic related(but without the chuuni mask shit)Just a dude, dressed either in a suit or in a smart casual outfit
kek i thought it was obvious that both maimoto and yashiro were drawn by a gay bara artist. there is a reason why they both have a male majority in their audience.
>>41906536i mean just look at roberu casual outfit, something along those lines would be miles better of tempisspoop guild chuuni shit, it's like putting a niche debuff before the debut.
>>41906536Only problem is that western males with models like that tend to have the twinkiest voice ever.
>>41906536yeah, no. I don't see this one appealing to a male audience, especially not a mainstream one. It creeps me out. Maybe nu-male weebs or asian males
>>41905498Afraid of taking risks even though the constant pretty boys aren't guaranteeing viewership either
>>41906663Yeah but they could just hire someone who doesn't have a twink voice
Saw Kiara's graph in previous thread and initially thought "Holy Recline" but I got surprised when I compared with her previous one and this was in 2021. I guess she is one of the few EN who neither inclined nor reclined ?
>>41906549>both maimoto and yashiro were drawn by a gay bara artist>there is a reason why they both have a male majority in their audienceI don't get it, are japanese gay people actually real?
>>41906484>>41905468
>>41906704and get vox. Be honest with me, are you bi? Because you seem biased toward fujoshit.
>>41906723>>41905468
>>41906721No gay bara artist actually know how to draw good males
>>41906769>>41905468
>>41906648Eh, the whole Adventurer's Guild thing is one of the things Cover did absolutely right. People who watch vtubers are nerds in the first place, a dude in a T-shirt is going to become a fleshstreamer. D&D party members though? Nerdbros.
>>41906549Because Maimoto gambles and talks about sports. Yashitro plays games and is bit of a chuuni.
Pretty nice twitter numbers. If it was up to debuffson, this would all be a paywalled secret lmao
Is Koyori funny? Everyone talks about how much she streams, but never really about the content itself. And I hardly see clips of her outside of Asakoyo, but that usually due to some other holomem being funny and Koyo reporting on it.
>>41906833She is a brat with creaky knees that needs to be corrected
>>41906833She cute and remind me of Pekora and Miko with the voice and mannerismI wasn't joking when I first spread the "PekoMiko daughter" meme
>>41906711No, Kiara just finished reclining long ago and is down to the very core of her audience.
>Niji wonWell this thread will be trash all day. See ya tomorrow
>>41906764No I'm not. And really that kind of thing is not fujoshit. Vox is gay because of what he does and how he acts, but if he was just normal he'd be just a random british guy playing OSRS. You don't hear a british voice and instantly feel homosexual do you?You know what is a fujoshit design? Axel's leather daddy and chains design
>>41906832ah yeah, that reminds me
>>41906832The fact Ame's surprise Autism has spread through the entire EN branch is such a pain.
>>41906833I don't think she's more entertaining than Chloe or Laplus desu
>>41906874Why? The won once in a while and nothing bad happenedIf anything it will be homobeggar being annoying again when EN stream
>>41906919A lot of them look up to her because she helps them with tech and sets up all the vrchat anniversaries
>>41905933university kinda killed her schedule
>>41906816>>41905468>>41906874>People only talking about Roboco, VSPO's Ema and Amewhy?
>>41906947She has some great solo moments like when she lost her fucking shit against the easiest boss in ER
>>41906919>>41906997Also like it or not, she is the creative director of EN. Much like how Marine is the la creatividad of JP, they influence their genmates way of doing things
Here's something interesting, Kiara confirmed to be in Japan for a month for work stuff.
>>41906833She's cute. I don't really think humor is her strength.
>>41907039
>>41907003>>41905468
>>41906919Yeah, I’d glad Gura cut ties her, she was dragging her down.
>>41906890>You don't hear a british voice and instantly feel homosexual do you?kind of. And I agree Tempus' designs are fujobait. It's more of a feel than something specific, like Kizuku screams gay to me and I just checked his artist, of course they're super gay. Clearly non-human characters (without entering furry territory) might work on a male audience.
>>41905750> HoloFive was meant to be the name for Gen 5Holofive will always be 5 people.This is why they came up with a new group "NePoLaBo" for Gen 5.
>>41907051I thought she just left? And she'll be back immediately?
>>41907063>saving thousands of dollars on hotel costsabout damn time.Unless it's MoriHouse.
>>41906874The thread has been fine honestly. It'll get shit when the EN audience starts coming in.
>>41905945I guess it's only from Gamers that gens started having names.Like HoloFantasy.1st gen didn't exist until recently and 2nd gen were far apart.Although I do remember them giving themselves a group name recently, but I forgot what it was.
>>41907095I mean she was always clear that her december trip was just gonna be for pleasure. It does seem a little odd to be going back and forth like this though
>>41907095Yeah she just came back to check up on her cats and family for a week. I'm like 90% sure Myth is gonna be prepping their 3d showcases in February.
>>41907068>>41905468
>>41907063>mori bought a houseit was in Japan right?
>>41907051I mean, that's a given, given Gura and Ina are already there. There's a LOT of recording Myth needs to get done>3d showcase>Birthday lives>Holofes stuffPlus whatever else they can manage to cram in while they have access to the official studios. >
>>41906890you have to agree bong accents aren't exactly manly. I guess mannerisms are important but still.
>>41905385thinking about it? nahfantasizing about it? nahactually making plans to do it irl? that's a step too far
>>41906890Vox's design is EXTREMELY gay. He's a pretty boy with makeup dressed in a fucking suit. By contrast Axel's got some shounen vibes to him
>>41907063>Staying together for a whole monthUnironically the best way to destroy Myth unity forever, living with people either makes you best friends or everyone starts to hate each other. It's what happens to every streamer house like the OTV one
>>41907115Nah, Mori might not even be staying at the house cause she has her own place.>>41907095Kiara mentioned in a previous stream that if she knew about this upcoming trip (since it's for work) she would've gone to Japan earlier and not in January.
>>41907127Well Sankisei still use their name for their event though. Remember Marine 3D gathering named "Interact Fantasia"? And then "Connected Fantasia". I'm glad they are consistent with their gen name
>>41907151One in Japan, one in America. Ina is giving Gura headpats, wherever it is they're staying rn.
>>41907177>actually making plans to do it irl? that's a step too farit's literally conspiracy to commit a crime
>>41907145>>41905468>>41907151She should have 1 in the US and the latest one in Japan.
>>41907180I can agree to that but Vox's design is also way gayer than the one anon linked too
>>41906817>D&D party members though? Nerdbros.Anon, I play DnD since before 3rd edition more or less botched the whole thing.At least in my circles people ABHORRED chuuni retards roleplaying their characters outside the game.We were all retards (can't really be normal and have this sort of hobbies) but at very least we tried to keep that shit IN GAME, looking mostly normal to the outside world: just plain students or yuppies
>>41907152I sincerely doubt they will do much more than just that based on the atrocious waiting time for using the 3D studio
>>41907115I think Ina mentioned it was a House that cover got for them while they were there, like they did when ID1 was in Japan to do their showcase.
>>41907227>>41905468
>>41907195Can it get any worse than it did after the off collab arc?
>>41907195Anon, knowing that it's temporary helps a ton. The issue with the OTV shit is that you also had it as co-ed and on a long term basis, which is an absolute recpie for disaster.
>>41905663I mean if you look at the list Hololive is 99% Pekora, /#/nig narratives are pretty skewed from reality as a whole.It’s also pretty stunning how much JP vtubing has kept on growing vs EN vtubing, and specifically the heights of HoloJP vs HoloEN falling straight off a cliff.
>>41907151I thought I saw people saying Ina said they were staying in a Cover house? I sincerely doubt they'll have them stay in Mori's house
>>41907063There's going to be a fight sometime.
>>41907271>>41905468
>>41907272oh yeah, look at what's happening with Tempiss. And even that can get worse.
>>41907280Isn't OTV the group that had some blueballed dude that almost sexually assaulted someone?
>>41907311>>41905468
>>41907202that's true...speaking of, nikisei live when?
>>41907362>>41905468
>>41907063>>41907195>5 women in the same house for a whole montI hope they find more people to socialize because they're gonna end up hating each other. It's amazing how cover (or holoEN management) seems to not understand women.
>>41907272Gura will get raped again but this time by Mori's japanese friends
>>41905863All the girls usually introduce themselves as rokkisei anyway. It's mostly just Cover pushing the name for branding.
>>41907408>>41905468
>>41906833>Is Koyori funny?Honestly yes. As an EOP I find her screaming and suffering in her various Ghosts n Goblins, Mario, DKC, Sekiro, ER playthrough some of the most entertaining content from Hololive as a whole.Her Goemon collab with Korone was one of my favorite from last year.https://youtu.be/bzQ1c_NAedA
>>41907412Damn. I hope they stream it Big Brother-style.
>>41907457>EN>Streaming
Man I missed this type of 2019 kino...
>>41907419you jest but Mori's 100% gonna invite his japanese weirdo friends to hang out. If at least one of them is a creeper using her to get closer to the other girls, that's a guaranteed disaster.
>>41907439>>41905468>>41907440true, though she tries a bit TOO hard sometimes.Like the time she had her first collab with Towa, who frustratingly told her to shut up because she was doing too much.
Selejo Blue is a 3view now? I thought she had escaped from that curse.
>>41906872But still I find it impressive that the 'core' audience did not erode in over one and a half years. Also just curious but is this the same situation for most of the NijiJP members especially the girls like Honma, Amamiya, Sasaki etc.. ?
>>41907492I'm glad Chammers is back in MC interacting with the other girls again
>>41907494Is Trashtaste still in japan?
>>41907507>>41905468
>>41907063Hopefully this can save their dying branch
>>41907541I fail to see why they wouldn't still be there
>>41907516Kiara has experience being a real idol. She knows the dark arts to create a fully loyal fanbase.
>>41907412>>41907195how long will it take for one or more of them to find her own place away from the others
>>41907494Yeah I'm joking but I really, really hope Mori controls herself on this front. We don't need the girl with the retard helmet meeting up with the japanese underground rap scene
>>41907541Didn't those niggers backstab her anyway at the height of one of her dramas
>>41907555>>41905468
>>41907233Yeah, but vtubers ought to be in character on some level while on stream, so I consider your point moot.
>>41907541Kadokawa is still paying them, yes.
>>41907532MC is Haachama’s game.
>>41907586All of them plus Chris Broad and Sharla are showing signs of wanting to go back to their respective homes for the longest time now
>>41907613>>41905468
based dolaposter
>>41907659>>41905468Is Mel close to the end?Weren't perms expiring soon?
>>41907605qrd?
>>41907590lol, that gif is still looping in my head. It’s too fucking funny.
>>41907650I don't think anyone here knows who you are talking about
>>41907625That's true but Vesper character didn't need to be>Knockoff vampire that never ever for a single second to any "vampiry" stuffIt could easily be>regular ass IT guy that likes to play DnD and has a side gig streaming in his spare timeHe could EASILY be the dude on the left, Chris from IT Crowd (the one and only existing version)
>>41907698No one knows exactly when outside it being sometime in February.
>>41907590She's good at inspiring loyalty in her viewers, but I wonder if it came at the cost of mass appeal.It is a skill you need to survive in the underground unpopular idol industry though.
>>41907233I mean, as long as you find Coco, Noel, Ange, Flare, etc. dumb chuuni fantasy shit then at least you'd be consistent anon. Otherwise you just look like a fucking retard for not realizing that a very large amount of VTuber characters are taken from fantasy settings that are well in line with a generic fantasy TTPG.
>>41907650>>41907725Missing pic>>41907706Anyone that knows enough about Trash Taste to ponder whether or not they want to leave Japan knows about their "extended universe"
>>41907401When they can get together to do something, maybe start by appearing in each other live like Sankisei? It's a good startI wonder why Sankisei started doing that after Rushia departure, or whose idea was it
Niji art spammer. Can you post art of the loliest girl in the gold stream?
>>41907708I just remember during her lean drama I think one of those anitubers she was cozy with tweeting with one of the Vshojos mocking Mori for whatever she was doing at the time
>>41907729nta, but why is everyone discussing this? The main problem with stars or whatever isn't their designs
>>41907605You mean during the "Condom money for Connor" shit?Then no, she went to their weddings and they do a lot more stuff on her RM side.Most likely they decided together that the shit wasn't worth the "fan" outcry and stopped most Mori (vtuber) -TrashTaste activity outside of sponsored stuff, like the manga awards.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRFam1PME9s
>>41907805I suddenly realize that normal looking male Vtuber actually look pretty cool
>>41907793No, because Dola won.
>>41907799I honestly do not think Mori is knowledgeable enough about social cues to realize when "friends" are making fun of her
>>41907755She can rely on myth, has friends in the JP branch and is in Hololive. She is fine and always has the possible of inclining
>>41907755Kiara had already shot herself in the foot from day 1. With the terrible mic, the crying about being the runt on her first stream, the bad game choices, the subscriber milestones (when Gura was already doubling her)I mean this is stuff even she has said she fucked up and regrets. I think her pivoting the way she has was probably the best way to save a sinking shipAnd like we always say with Kiara, it's not all doom and gloom with her. she has good vod views and good song views. I think things would be a lot better for her if she moved out of the EU timeslot
>>41907765> I wonder why Sankisei started doing that after Rushia departureIsn’t it obvious? To project the image of Sankisei’s strength, that even if a member disappears they’re still a tight-knit generation. 3rd Gen was the Hololive’s golden generation, and they want to keep it that way.
>>41907858That is the curse of Hololive. You know that your content isn't obscure because the holobox exists. People just don't tune in.
>>41907858Inclining is possible but I want to see what can incline Kiara. She tried everything, not even being graced by FIrst Army incline her
>>41907761I have never seen these people in my life.>>41907833Nijifags are worthless
>>41907759>at least you'd be consistent anonAnon, the whole conversation is about the lack of normal dudes among male vtubers.>b-but girls are chuuni too! It's not fair! You're not being consistentPeople expect different thing from male vtubers and female vtubers. What works for one set doesn't necessarily works for the next and I maintain: Vesper would have a better chance as a regular ass IT dude as his avatar (matching the persona he presents in his streams) than a crude gay vampire that resembles a Dollar Store Alucard
>>41907830In a world of emo fuccbois, the normal dude is king
>>41907698>>41905468>>41907793I didn't watch the stream, don't know who participated.Just caught the end of Dola's stream after people said she won.
>>41907889Something I like to bring up is her Holocure update stream. She immediately went into her tangent mode which is what her regular viewers love, but the tourists were not down for it.
>>41907894I just think that they thought it was fun. I mean Flare actually was so bold that she only invite Sankisei for her anni
>>41907063Nice, Gura can have even more parties with Mori's junkie friends!
>>41907889>moved out of the EU timeslotShe doesn't even have to do this entirely, just move her steam later so she can be a waiting room for Ina instead, but that would leave out her SEA fanbase which I guess is important for her.
>3 hours>only 8.7 viewsBigger flop than FlopRyS.https://youtu.be/pIWFkkBM5DU
>>41907934>>41905468
>>41907943Yeah I can agree with that, that was pretty bad. She wasn't really focusing on the game at all and started talking about the netflix shows she watches with her mom
>>41907906She can always shift her content, but Kiara is stubborn.>>41907916If the studio wasn't full, being a guest in 3D lives would help her a lot
>>41907943I don't think it's a bad strategy, she's grabbing viewers that like the way she streams. Abandoning her stream style is risky for her core fanbase.
>>41907830Yeah, they're just like me fr fr.Except for the streaked red hair, my scalp is allergic to the coloring.
>>41907755Nah all holo members have loyal viewers but the only thing I find impressive is her superchat numbers despite half her branch getting double or triple the number of viewers regularly.I feel the same with that scarle girl from Niji.
>>41908058No this is too far in the other direction. He was going for some ugly bastard shit
>>41907958>FlareI hope peko and marine saviourfag her more...
>>41907981>>41905468
>>41908087She is the SC-type, less viewers but they throw more money at her
>>419054687-17 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>41908087I was just interested in how successful she was at basically replicating the small idol survival strategy.
>>41907425Seems like Cover pushed individualized branding since Myth so yes it might be Holo EN management influence.
>>41907805>The main problem with stars or whatever isn't their designsThe main problem definitely isn't the avatars but it adds to the problem.It's not a lot different from the female side, except in the opposite direction and I'll use Pikamee as the example.Pikamee had the most unique, most likeable and one of the most recognizable avatars in the industry and she diluted it with a series of "downgrades"; including her "cute loli" model.Model usually means FUCK ALL for a streamer (in the big picture) and I'll agree to that point, the handicap for stars is not their models but a series of other things including being "Hellmann's ketchup".But "gay dollar store allucard" fucked Vesper as much as his own bad demeanor and poor career planning.
>>41908058>bike tie>bike in the backgroundthat's so "vtuber with only one hobby"
Why does Banderas have Kyoko and Salome in his DQ3 thumbnail?
>>41908091Did you miss MariFlare Cuphead arc? Or all the random MariFlare collab that suddenly happen recently?They (Especially Marine) really don't want to left Flare behind
Why are you posting Shamiko?
>>41907516KFP is considered a cult for a reason.There are so many filters that can prevent a sane individual from enjoying Kiara, from her EU centric timeslot, to her naturally annoying voice (that she doesn't take advantage of btw, she could turn into a pekora type character with that voice but she doesn't want to), to her abrasive german personality, there are so many things that stop a tourist from becoming her fan. And not even touching on all her yabs and menhera shit over the years, her PL drama or the whole orcschizo arc.Those that have overcome all of these and still continued watching her are some of the most mentally unstable individuals on the entire planet. Perfectly matched audience for her, but at the same time these people will be stuck to her for life (even through rm), but the numbers will not grow easily at all.
>>41908125>myth blew up>guy in charge get's lauded with praise and is now consulted with every decision even though he did nothing>his incompetent thoughts now run the branch
>>41907235Well maybe the studio time is clogged up because they decided to prioritize 3d debuts to the side branches since it's been a long time of waiting
>>41905468tf I didn't know Pomu was doing that well
>>41908097>>41905468>>41908157>ShamikoShe's way too small.
>>41907916>She tried everythingFalse, the one thing she refuses to try is also a thing she's said is a red line she's never changing: the chicken voiceHer character voice + the way she EQ'd her mic based on her shitty gamer headphones means she's very loud in the exact frequency range that's been scientifically determined to be the most annoying to listen to
>>41908168In that case the en girls haven't been informed about it
>>41908122One thing about Kiara that I like is when her idol experience comes through. I think she's usually pretty good at the variety stuff cover likes to have them do
>>41908058Where is his boar spear
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1198520734164717568?s=20&t=9FoIYXVanxufmtRj_1GyEAYoooooooooo rare Pekora moment. She usually retweet art but to see her actually reply to them is rare
>>41908198>>41905468
>>41908174It's not that great for a 3D showcase. I would at least expect nijien to pass the iofi line
>>41908235Fucking lucky bastard
>>41906711She inclinied if anything.
>>41908174>That wellLiterally the worst of her wave
>>41908253I didn't know it was a 3D showcase, but at the very least people are still Pomu
>>41908143A fan made fan art and he decided to use it
>>41908241>>41905468>>41908143That's Maimoto too.Maybe they fit the DQ 3 characters/party?
>>41908235what the fuckwhat is so special about this
>>41908283No she beat Finana by like 2k
>>41908283Got more SC on her 3D Debut than Finana or Elira and it was not even close
>>41892453I’m replying to an old message, but its actually bugging me: this is gross. Some adult man trying to push girls into collabing with strange men they potentially don’t want to talk to is just some nasty-ass behavior.
>>41908235>2019why are you posting years old tweets?
KNEEL TO LAMY!
https://youtu.be/uDEAVmE0MCE>RecommendationLaschizos getting fucking desperate
>>41907973She does not really stream during EU hours anyway because she wants JP and SEA too.
>>41907916Do you really think it's as fucking easy as "collab with them once, now people like you"?
>>41908298>>41905468Ruri-nee also did a fake First take if anyone is interested.Her 3D rigging is so smooth.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFWmHo0HYNU
>>41908323Oboretai is a lot of things, and a hololive fan is certainly not one of them.
>>41908314https://twitter.com/tomozu100/status/1619340239469969410?s=20&t=9FoIYXVanxufmtRj_1GyEAIt's a she and she also went to the Pekora fan meeting today. Seem her tweet is the most popular one in the fan meet tag
>>41906817But that doesn't work for the sisters who are the target audience for male chuubas. Omega is a retard and probably told them to do what appealed to his nerdy ass without thinking about the fanbase like he always does.
>>41905498>Why don't the West make male Vtuber like this anymore? Like, just a normal dudeBecause the JP managers who make vtubers for the west are borderline insane and want to make everything into the absurd fantasy land they think the west is like. That's why Hololive makes a guild of asians and westerners starring pinoys and mexicans and Niji makes the Backstreet Boys
>>41908235>2019slowchama..
>>41908332CHUKI CHUKI WAMY
>>41908208She seems fine when she's speaking Japanese...but when she speaks English...
>>41908362>>41905468
>>41908323>push girls>strange men Jesus you are infantilizing the holowhores so much. They are grown women that are millionaires with boyfriends, take a chill pill
>>41908332why?
>>41908387If she used her japanese speaking tone all the time it'd be at least 10x better than what she's got going on now
>>41908381>>41908328The artist suddenly brought it up again and it show up in my TL, just thought it was interesting cause I didn't know Pekora actually reply to fanarts
Triangle...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxXYpvUdVVw
>>41908397>>41905468https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC53UDnhAAYwvNO7j_2Ju1cQDola made 3551$ from the 3 streams in the tournament today.
>>41908374oh lmao I guess this is Pekora trying to appeal to mesu nousagi huh
>>41908401DON'T THINK, JUST KNEEL!
>>41908362Wonder if we’re gonna see another wave of homages. I remember loving the first time, EdoLena’s model having headphones already leading her to put the 2nd set on upside down was pretty hilarious on top of some great singing.
>”Joshu-kun I can’t take it anymore, I just wanted to have fun. All you want is numbers”
>>41908376Yeah isn't extensive lore one of those things that's only really popular with men?
>>41908442>>41905468
>>41908457but I love 2D women
>>41908480>>41905468
>>41908477>extensive lore >popular with men?Men just want one thing and it's disgusting!>cute girls
>>41908225Even though IRyS is my second favourite EN, my one big criticism of hers (which is Kiara's positive point) is that she does not collab with JPs more or even have collab covers with other JP/EN members. I don't want her to spam collabs but atleast one collab a month would be good.
Jesus even Choco has female fans huh...
>>41905498How many ‘normal dudes’ are going to want to become a vtuber? You mostly end up with creeps looking at vtubing like their own private brothel and menharas that clearly aren’t on their meds.
>>41908504gotcha senpai
>>41907509Valo debuff is too much....
>>41908513>>41905468
>>41908504Agreed that 3dpd thot is to ugly to be wamy
>>41908376Tempus 1 was supposed to cater to male fans, not female. That was gen 2
>>41907973Her slot, for better or worse, is just awkward. EU definitely wins the most though. For NA she's during the day and degen to early morning for JP / SEA.> 00:00 JST to 08:00 JST> 16:00 CET to 00:00 CET> 10:00 EST to 18:00 EST
>>41908547>>41905468
>>41908374How do these fan meetings handled anyway? Do the fans actually get to talk one on one with the Vtuber? They're safe from the cum-in-hand handshake sort of thing, but isn't there still the risk of a random anti getting in and making a big fuss or insulting the Vtuber right in the face/bringing up sensitive information?
>>41908399And many of them joined Hololive to avoid weird dudes. It’s one thing if you join Nijisanji, you know what you’re getting into. But Hololive? The likelihood that many of these girls joined for a ‘safe space’ is quite high.
>>41907509You're never further than 1 bad day away in Nijisanji.
>>41905863I don't think even the biggest Cover shill could deny they have no fucking idea what the fuck they're doing with branding.From the hololive production debacle, to trying to give each gen a specific name when the numbers work fine, to TWICE trying to kill the holostar name and replace it with something they hope would be more popular(Uproar/Tempus).
>>41908586>>41905468
>>41908323I mean, if you look at it from a clippers perspective: he's just looking out for himself. The problem is that >Clippers are parasites, all of them>hololive doesn't have a dedicated staff of clippers of their own to create clips and put these hacks out of business.You can't blame the guy for going where there's money and no competition. You can blame Hololive for being so out of touch that they let people like this dictate community behavior because they don't do their jobs.
>>41908521It’s interesting imagine what women see in the Holos. I bet some of them actually look up to them, but can you imagine being a young girl and want to become like Pekora?
>>41908636>>41905468
>>41907943Or Elden Ring when she again got tourists but then sat down, stopped playing, and went on a tangent. It was funny seeing the grays seething and telling her to play the fucking game
>>41908611That doesn't paint them in a better light. Do they wear burquas when they go out for groceries, too? They're dealing with 'weird dudes' all of the time, they're just not telling you about it.
>>41908585she starts to early for EU. when I get to watch her she is already reading supas. maybe she wants high school students to watch her after school
>>41908675>>41905468
>>41908603You get two minutes in a booth with a webcam. If you cause an issue, there’s always security on hand. Nothing stops you from being rude beyond the cost and time involved, but it turns out most people aren’t that brave off the internet.
>>41908058I'll have to ask his thoughts on the new Trigun series.
>>41908658>but can you imagine being a young girl and want to become like Pekora?Her parents need to prevent this immediately.
>>41908711I think what people say about Kiara wanting SEA and EA makes sense. I mean it's well known she has a lot of Korean fans
>>41905950The Boton rescue arc will pull 150K easy
>>41908718>>41905468
>>41908734Nah Hikosan is pretty cute
>>41907590A very very very small loyal fanbase.
oh I forgot this existed...almost 1M, cool
>>41908699Not everyone is comfortable with the opposite sex. Certainly not strangers. Even casually speaking with the opposite sex in the workplace isn’t a guarantee you won’t get snubbed. Most women don’t want to talk to strange dudes. The days of casually walking up to someone in the street and talking to them is over.
>>41908773>>41905468
>>41908780That small, loyal fanbase will be the ones buying her bathwater in a few years.
>>41908628Actually, that last one is slightly less stupid then it seems. Unlike female idol groups which just add girls, male idol groups normally just add sister groups which share similar branding but are different. I remember one of the Homos talking about it when Uproar debuted.
>>41908809>>41905468
>>41908658https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1281437388972019712IIRC she started pushing for the hero of children and kids channel joke around the time of this tweet. There were others posting their kids' doodles of Pekora too at the time
>>41908658In japan I think there are a lot of quirky girls who find the overly cute and silly vibes Hololive gives off relatable and comfortingWith HoloEN i think the only girls that watch them are weirdo lesbians and """lesbians"""
>>41908603Most people are just awkward and not downright malicious. The amount of Actual antis that would pay money and spend their time to just go and say an insult before getting thrown out is minuscule.
>>41908711>she starts to early for EU. when I get to watch her she is already reading supas.She starts reads supas 2 hours before she ends, at like 10PM CET. Whatever is stopping you from watching her is specific to your lifestyle.
>>41907981Is she… phasing through the fence?
>>41908854>>41905468
>>41908658Pretty based actually, i'd rather have more pekoras around than the "celebrities" girls watch today
>>41908603I'm guessing you need to disclose certain information about yourself when you sign up to this type of this.Could easily get you blacklisted from the entire industry (or from society altogether) if you try and take advantage of it.
>>41908699So what, because day to day interaction forces you to talk to dudes you should also be forced to stream with them in front of thousands? The fuck kinda logic is that
>>41908475Koyo nooo, if the holo antis see this they can legit get YT to give you a strike for socially harmful thumbnail image
>>41908858She likes children and was about to become a kindergarten teacher, I can give her a child if she just lets me cum insider of her
>>41908699You must not live in a western society if you think men can just go up to a woman and start talking to them. This isn’t the 90s anymore.
>>41908898>>41905468>>41908887Classic "show the goods" effect.
>>41908658NOUSAGI GIRLS LOOK LIKE ***THISSSSS***!?!??!!
>>41908693Yeah, I think Kiara is just at a point where she is not gonna change her content for anyone, and she is over trying to chase ccv. She seems to care much more about her music numbers.
>>41908960Stop doxxing me faggot
>>41908521That doesn't surprise me. Choco is pretty based in how much she subverts certain norms and shits on her dates and stuff.
>>41908912Don’t question the Homobeggar mindset, they don’t actually care about the girls, or even the boys, they only want to win Le culture war
>>41908955>>41905468
>>41908978Hey...
>>41908960If you notice all of them came there with some kind of fluffy white scarf (Their own Donchan)
>>41908658I mean.Hololive is like brotubers, but for girls.There's probably an audience for it, however small.
>>41908699A lot of the girls also just have a really good thing going with their community and don't want to bring any form of drama into it one way or another.
>>41908912
Maybe i should start acting more like pekora
>>41908912>So what, because day to day interaction forces you to talk to dudes you should also be forced to stream with them in front of thousands?The people who think they're innocent little flowers, unable to handle the pressure of interacting with a man are delusional. "And many of them joined Hololive to avoid weird dudes", that's insane. They likely have many male staff they have to interact with already.>>41908984Does it just hurt being so incredibly retarded? This isn't even a homobeggar thing, this is a DYRBI thing.
>>41906276This song fucking sucks
>>41908888her last streams started at 15 and 16... look at her fucking schedule.
>>41909074Please stream your Rust next time, red bean.
>>41909084>t. oboretai
>>41908658People who like hololive are going to be people who like things like Bocchi the Rock. There are a lot of women that like that.Also Holos like Suisei and Marine have a lot of appeal to women as well.
>>41909084>DYRBIYes. I believe her
>>41908791Oh, nice. It's a great MV and song to boot. Kinda sad it didn't do better all things considered.
>>41908998>>41905468
>>41909084Kys homobegger
>>41908912The funny thing is that you aren’t even guaranteed to speak to the opposite sex in the workplace, at least not casually. Actual work related stuff? Sure, but collaborations in vtubing requires people to speak casually among hundreds or thousands of viewers. It isn’t realistic unless you’re specifically prepared for that (like joining Nijisanji where you are expected to have this mindset from the beginning).
>>41908457Not pregnant, 2/10.
>>41908960I checked her twitter out when this first got posted, and she seems to actually be in a small Idol group. Pretty good singer as well.
>>41909176>>41905468
>>41909084>do you really believe autists like Aqua existyes?
>>41909129I don't know who that is.>>41909178I can just imagine, IMAGINE this fat homosexual going about his life, buying twinkies by the pack-full before remembering his oshi is interacting with a MAN and has interacted with MEN before shitting himself, rolling around on the ground, and shoveling them into his face in one swift motion.
>>41909084I don't care how "good" you are at dealing with men, don't do it on stream. No one has ever inclined from it and you're more at risk of blowing everything up.It's like walking through a minefield, sure you can be smart about it, but why walk through the goddamn minefield in the first place?Especially since there's absolutely nothing on the other side.
>>41909084There is a difference between speaking to people professionally in a work setting and speaking to people casually, like you would in a vtuber collab.
>>41909084Touch a nerve? I didn’t even reply to you
>>41909084>t. Axel.Less shitposting more streaming. 3view and vagabond... Holostars are indeed a cursed branch.
>>41909122>starts at 4pm>reads superchats from 10pm on>somehow euro can't find any time to watch in that 6 (six) hour window
>>41908699The recent Phase girl's yab will give you a decent idea about the power that dudes have in relationships where the girl is naive.We suspect that they're fucking because of the past tweets n shit, but I've seen that type of chat in old anime-community "online relationships" quite a lot. Girls crush on boys, boys crush on girls, some of it works out, most of it doesn't... the times have changed, but some things remain the same.And for 90% of girls who aren't involved in modern feminism, a "pushy guy" is not something that they can easily handle. Women naturally tend to avoid conflict when possible, so they would rather do what the dude says than "cause a problem" on stream or with her friends or social circle or whatever else.This is also why rape mostly happens from people women are close to, and why most of those were never reported until recently.And because of this natural inability to handle men, a section of them would rather never interact with them at all on a personal level. i.e. as acquaintances, coworkers, friends etc.They can still interact in professional settings, like with the guy at the cash register, or the guy who helps you set up your 3D gear n shit, but generally they don't really have much power over you socially since you aren't in the same circles, and hence there are usually no issues from them.
Trying to equate male staff to the mentally unstable groomers that are male vtubers is certainly something
>>41909122When the fuck do you get off work?
>>41907063take me back. go back to when they sold us false unity and let me believe in blind faith its real
It’s normal for male and female to form their own group in an office so idk what this guy is going about. Absolutely assblasted Homobeggar came out of nowhere
>>41909253Damn homobegger, you're getting a bit triggered here lmao. What the fuck is this sperg paragraph?
>>41909173it's not as loopable as Po methinks
>>41909292yeah i love to tune into a stream 4 hours after it started. EU prime time. thank you Kiara.
>>41907063>5 western women living in the same house>for 1 fucking monthRip myth
Lol even in a Sankisei collab Pekora still get the center spot (ft.Myth)
>>41909122>Christmas KaraokeIs there like another place similar to the Orthodox Church that celebrated Christmas at a different date?
>>41909347It's probably some vesperfag that has been conditioned to show up at this hour
>>41909347Real life isn’t like The Office.
>>41909253Take a step back and realize how fucking weird you come off right now.
>>41908735It would probably make what caused his suspension look like child play
Holy fucking based Subaru
>leddit Pomu thread turned into such a shitshow no one discussed Pomu>OP self deleted>new Pomu threads dead and downvoted>oboretai btfo and ran to his community pageyou don't need to outnumber nijiniggers and homobeggers. you just need to hijack their threads into being about homobeggin/nijibegging. they don't handle someone being called out very well and massively overcorrect, making it super obvious they're an outside force
>>41909359Just watch during dinner, like 5 - 6 PM, and on. If you work and commute after like 5:30 PM I'm genuinely sorry, but that's not on Kiara.
>>41909370i mean myth unity can't exactly get worse. Maybe this cold be a good thing for them
>>41909224>>41905468
>>41909434He’s some weird dude trying to push women into uncomfortable situations. If he isn’t completely batshit insane, he should be well aware of how unhinged he’s coming across.
>>41909398Huh? What's this and why the fuck is Pekora with Myth lmao
>>41909403She tweeted a followup saying she is doing it cause she was sick during Christmas but still wanted to sing Christmas songs.
>>41909467I keep seeing this name and all I can think is "Rent free". Like you're seriously worried about this in a numbers thread. Get a grip.
>>41909484>>41905468
>>41909467Good, don't give them an inch and don't let them feel confortable.
>>41909467I find it hilarious that him getting called out on reddit prompted him to run back to his community for support
>>41909423It isThere’s nothing wrong with that, of course boy and girl can talk to each other but just saying only hanging out with the same gender is totally normal and acceptable too
>>41909292>tune into some JRPG story shit 2-3 hours after it startedYeah that's bad. Why the fuck are KFP so defensive about Kiara's dogshit timeslot?
>>41909318there is a reason why the peak time or "prime time" for TV is not 15 or 16 but around 20... even Salome is easier to watch when she starts at midnight JST than EU Kiara.
>>41909292Quite a few people dislike joining midstream and prefer to just catch the vod instead or just not watch.
>>41909398>>41909514they're just playing thishttps://youtu.be/Yzdie2uH0N4
>>41909292I'd rather watch Roboco desu
>>41909514The Sankisei collab with Tokyo Joypolis announced a month agoThe big screen is also airing Pekora Rabbitality project it seem. The dude taking the picture chose the moment Myth is on the screen to take it
>>41909403Coptic Christians?
>>41909530The archnijinigger/hombegger(same thing) stands out. Fucking zoomer culture>Huh? You're aware of someone existing and doing things you don't like?>FUCKING RENT FREEEEEIt's not a shutdown of anything, it's the U MAD BRO of zoomers.
>>41909471then I have already missed 1 or 2 hours of that stream. sorry but no that is not EU hours.
>>41909467They will always self-implode, that’s why I do not need to care about themHomobeggar and Nijifag will fight among each other for influence over the Hololive reddit, one way or another
>>41909719>Homobeggar and Nijifag will fight among each other for influence over the Hololive reddit, one way or anotherThey're the same people, anon. They won't fight each other at all.
>Nijisanji subredditUh...
Roboco > Entire EN sidebranch unironically
>>41909285>>41909310>>41909285>>41908949>>41909067>>41909288>>41909511Okay, but no one's asking to collab with them, I'm not asking to collab with them, I'm saying the mentality that they don't interact with weird guys is bananas. Step outside, you'll see a man on every street corner. You see a man in every place of business, every store, every shop, likely their own companies. Is your oshi really such a delicate flower that she has a family member do all of her personal dealings to avoid interacting with men? Surely, not even you, fellow /vt/ afecinado, actually believe that.There must be some form of embellishment in your mind for you to believe they are this fragile. >>41909434Is it actually that weird to point out that this mentality is embellished and they likely interact with men every day perfectly normally? That seems.. fairly normal. I would hope none of them are this traumatized.
>>41909577>>41909591It's hard to have sympathy for people who won't join midstream when every time I tune into Kiara she's like halfway through reading supers already.
>>41909648Wouldn’t zoomers be more accepting of people not being comfortable around the opposite sex? Most homobeggars are just creepo straight dudes trying to use male vtubers to live vicariously through, that or they think if other dudes can enter ‘paradise’, they can too.
>>41909648Okay but you've successfully derailed a numbers thread because of your fear of homobeggers.
>reading graduating list in archive>lilitapuff >look them up>debuted in June 2022 only 7 months agoIf EN3 does exist and this bitch is in it somehow does that mean these retards in EN management didnt actually look for girls until relatively recently
>>41909767do people even use the niji subreddit
>>41909783Why are this such an important issue for you?
https://youtu.be/hgu3CF7UQngDamn, JP hoshiyomis are making newfag friendly clips for tourists coming from First Take.Such powerful shilling... only JP otaku seem to be able to capture this level of passion for their oshis.
>>41909817>Wouldn’t zoomers be more accepting of people not being comfortable around the opposite sex? No? most people find this mentality extremely bizarre. Like picture if there was a man who was terrified of women. People wouldn't think he's a self-isolating chad, they would think he's a loser.Likewise, the idea that women should never, under any circumstance, come into contact with the opposite sex is only primarily believed by muslim cultures in the middle east who also beat them within an inch of their lives.
Ah, the classic "I'm not homobegging BUT" faggotry is back.
>>41909841seems like that place have some surge of posts after today's 3Dbut the post about kiara in pomu's stream only manage to collect around 60-ish upvote there¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>41909779Please don't insult my pon wife
>>41909835There's no good answer anonEither they picked people earlier then sat on them through the winter drought so they could push out two gens of homos first, or they spent over a year not looking
>>41906000>>41906155She had "gen 1" in her twitter bio for a long time.My rrat is that management pushed the whole "no gens in EN" thing so they can push Tempus through a back door as just yet another "EN" gen not really different to all the rest, perhaps there is similar strategy in JP with holoX and Uproar but it's obviously harder to implement since gen numbers were already so deeply ingrained into the culture.
>>41909850It isn't, but I can see I upset the thread so irreversibly by simply stating: >>41908699>They're dealing with 'weird dudes' all of the time, they're just not telling you about it.And open the floodgates because apparently reminding them that they're people who live in meatspace is the worst sin imaginable. As I said beforeDYRBI?
>>41909783It’s not embellishment, I’m just completely aware of modern western culture as an American who generally follows a progressive mindset. If people are uncomfortable with the opposite sex, you are to respect it. I know as a male, that I hold a lot of power in cross-gender dynamics.
>>41909767When are Yagoo trading Kiara for Melo before she rot?
>>41909894Nigger your arguments are complete projection and not what anyone is saying in these threads. We don't want women to stream with men since its going to lead to everyone who is attached to said woman parasocially (yes this is a thing and I don't give a shit what you think about it being a thing) feeling like a third wheel, this retarded "they should never speak to men ever" is your strawman.
>>41907793not him but ririmu took part so dozo
>>41909835My main thought was just>Dear god I hope EN management wasn't retarded enough to think an FPS chuuba can work in EN
>>41909530> r-rent free
>Check Twitter>This year Touhou Reitaisai will have a whole planetarium built on top of the con for every fan to observe the stars and constellation >With remixes of ZUN music CD tracks playing all day longGlad I am still in 2hu fandom, somehow they just keep one upping themselves
>>41909985>It’s not embellishment>I’m just completely aware of modern western culture as an American who generally follows a progressive mindset.This is an embellishment. Nobody seriously believes or acts this way in real life. You're taking an extreme from weirdos you've read on the internet and assumed this must be the norm.Your Oshis don't feel this way, every single one that I"ve watched have plenty of stories of interacting with people IRL and being fine.
>>41909835Check my rrat, they make rando chuba accounts out of the blue for new hires let them stream as they are for a bit during their 6 month probation, then they graduate their old form and get prepped once they're ready for their Holo debut
>>41909880As always, fans resemble their oshi, and Hoshillmachi is a master of marketing
>>41909783is this oboretai
>>41910057
Minecraft really is powerful. It can even save this absolute shitter from being 3 view.
>>41910081only retards have ever left
>>41909538>>41905468
>>41910034>We don't want women to stream with men This is (You) projecting, I never, once, said they should stream with men. I said they interact with men all of the time. You're the one implying they are so pure they have a safe space dedicated to not interacting at all with men. THAT is projecting. You don't even know if they feel the same way you do about interacting with 'weird men'.
>>41909767The difference between leeching and getting leeched on.
>>41910130I wouldn't be surprised
>>41910130it's his writing styleit's no secret he wanted to be a LN author
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>>41909915It got around 600 now, and the guy only posted that because he was annoyed at the holosub op blatantly shilling Pomu and sidelining Kiara.
>>41909894Do you live in a Muslim country, then? Because you don’t seem to understand the dynamics in western culture. Perhaps a man being uncomfortable with women is considered a loser, but a women being suspicious of men is considered prudent thinking. And we generally frown upon strangers interacting with one another these days, for one reason or another. The days of ‘picking up’ a girl at a restaurant or even a workplace isn’t generally considered acceptable behavior.
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>>41910063Is that her niche? Didnt actually check her content just her voice and how long shes been vtubing
>>41909783> they don't interact with weird guysyou completely ignored the part where I said > professionallyin order to keep your soapbox goingreplying to you was my mistakekys homobeggar
>>41910215Kiara is more prominent on that than the one he posted on the holo sub lol.
>>41909894>the idea that women should never, under any circumstance, come into contact with the opposite sextake your strawman and stick it up your ass, faggot
>>41910167>You're the one implying they are so pure they have a safe space dedicated to not interacting at all with menI have no idea who you think you're arguing with. Enough of your schizo shit, go away now.
>>41910274>>41905468Sorry, got distracted catching up to Minecraft stuff.
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>>41910300wasn't the same op that's why, the 2nd dude wanted to post it the "correct way"
>>41909767>Nijisanji subreddit Then just fucking post on there, make it alive, and don't try to shill on holosubreddit if you care that much about positive comments. How hard is it to understand?
>>41909292Yes Anon, it's not the pandemic anymore, people can't just sit 6 consecutive hours in front of a screen especially in the afternoon. Even worse when it's a 60 hours long JRPG.I genuinely believe she'd do way better doing two short 3 hours stream, one earlier for SEA/JP audiences and one during EU prime time right before Ina.I like Kiara and I'm an Euro but I genuinely can't keep up with her shit. Even worse when it's such a dense type of stream that you can't even use as background while doing something else.
>>41910034>WeARE NEVER EVER EVERGETTING BACK TOGETHER
>>41909591by their standard a JP streamer who starts late is a EU streamer. 23JST is 15GMT+1 which appears to be the perfect time for streams. Just when my grandma drinks her coffee and watches her Sturm der Liebe TV drama. You see it is good to start the stream before most people can even tune in...
Why are random niggers so invested in male/female collabs? This is such a non issue I literally can't see anyone but homobeggers mad their homo oshis can't leech being mad about.
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>>41910326>>41905468>>41910057Checking the thumbnail, looks like Ririmu and Eli Conifer were the only loli representatives, unless you count Amamiyahttps://youtube.com/live/vDmADkBpaWI
>>41910167>I never, once, said they should stream with men.You wouldn't be here babbling if that wasn't your goal. You are just too fucking coward to say so, so you hide behind your pseudointellectual ranting. Grow some balls and stop acting like a bitch.
Doesn't matter which corpo wins gold, the exact same arguments come up anyway for the rest of the thread
>>41910365they only got a meager amount of updoot there so they resort to posting on holo subs
>>41910228>picking up a girl in a resto - creep>picking up a girl at work - sexual harassmentUnless you're their type, extremely handsome, and suave, then you might get a pass and a pussy
>>41910414>>41905468>>41910432>84 postersbecause it's kinda the same people all the time.
>>41910455incelchama...
Its such a bizzare argument. Should high ccv holo girls acknowledge big youtube streamers like Tim/Doc/Ludwig because they work on the same platform? Why does someone working for the same company suddenly change the dynamic. There is literally nothing wrong with a streamer ghosting others in their network if they have absolutely nothing to offer, which is the case with Tempus.
>>41910390That's exactly it and the only way for their oshi to ever gain relevance in this place
>>41910480>>41905468
Nobody brought up kiara said all of myth are going to japan. This is the comeback holo en needs myth in japan funnel to holofes funnel to En gen 3 debut
>>41910550Check the last thread
>>41910481I was actually able to pick up my ex during a bus ride though
>>41910550Why would anyone care about that when they can argue about homos.
>>41910502Y-you don't understand, they have nothing to offer because they weren't properly shilled!You see, before Gura ever became popular 20 jps shilled her..yeah! So how can we expect Vesper to be 10k ccv streamer without every single holo collabing with him first?
>>41910550It was posted earlier Threa D. Skimmer
>>41909084Yes, trying to beg people into collabing with someone of the opposite gender on stream when they usually don't collab is weird and can make the girls uncomfortable. ESPECIALLY when these people are all fully aware that it can cause unnecessary drama for the girls and their fanbase. Usually those people even WANT to have that drama.It doesn't matter how many male staff members, male friends or even boyfriends they might be talking to in their private life.
>>41910531>>41905468>>41910504Twitch streamers do that. The moment someone in the same language category gets big numbers, they start lurking to see how they're like and maybe collab.Youtubers in the early 2010's did that too for people in the same category - gaming, anime, reviewing.Western viewers are used to this type of behavior.
>>41910550First off, we've known that for a week now.Second off, yes it was brought up>>41907063
>>41910285That's what she posted in her twitter biohttps://twitter.com/lilitapuff>FPS extraordinaireAnd pic rel is her hours. So basically FPS with standard hologirl stuffOne clip has her doing a handcam with Gura's nendo so she 100% appliedhttps://clips.twitch.tv/GrossTenuousMochaBabyRage-BJLyfi_2trWP8HYdIdk I could see it. She feels very inline with the type of girl HoloEN likes. Has a Mumei/Fauna vibe. But if FPS is her niche i don't see it going well and desu as much as I love Mumei and Fauna what HoloEN needs right now isn't another one to saturate everything
>>41910550Do you really care at this point?It's all so late that, at least I'm, completely burnt out on hoping for EN to be good.
>>41910432this place basically became the culture war thread because en is imploding from western nonsense like /jp/ always said it would and it's the only place the jannies won't delete off-topic garbage, it's increasingly tiresome>>41910391
>>41910625We've known about homobeggars for months and still you feed them.
>>41910620>>41905468>>41910641>Rank 80k - Top 1.1% on Twitch>40 average viewersGrim.
huh if u took away the tournament, 2434 seemed to have as trong showing from their individual streamers or was it all funnel?One thing i noticed was that after suisei's concert ended, there was essentially zero funnel to the holo's streams at the time.
>>41910708What? Wrong reply?
>>41910641To be fair, wasn't Ame pretty much an FPS streamer only as well before she joined? It's hard to predict how their content will pan out once they are in.
>>41910746>>41905468>>41910746Many of the individual streams participated in the tournament, they had their own POV.The Meruto collab is the only stream that they funneled into.
>>41910702i swear this guy has drawn more ririmus than any other artist with one chuuba
>>41910502most homobeggars don't understand this, the girls auditioned for hololive not for some random unity of mixed collabs
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>>41910764Fps and react/chatting
>>41910320I'm arguing with a retard, apparently>>41910421>You wouldn't be here babbling if that wasn't your goal.multiple retards, all projecting.
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>>41910821and that'll do, hope your cunny thirst was satiated anon
>>41910828I don't understand why they're so voracious. half of HoloEN acknowledges tempissLiterally all of ID does.Why do they need 100% completion rate?
>>41910550Sorry, faggots here prefer to overthink about cocks 24/7.
>>41910893>>41905468
>>41910887So what is your goal here? Tell that to me plainly right now, without babbling nonsense.
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>>41910421I was saying the idea that they're delicate flowers is delusional and the concept that they're not interacting with 'weird men' IRL is fantasy. Do you really believe it? That these (mostly) functional adults with jobs don't interact with the opposite gender at all? Crazy some people do.
>>41910764Yeah and if this girl gets in I predict she'd probably do a similar pivot because the market just isn't really there for FPS chuubas in ENThe bigger problem i see is her being so similar to the SNO vibe. It's been so long since Council, EN3 needs a lightning rod of a personality to reignite the energy in the scene. Another competent streamer with a waif-like personality doesn't feel like what's necessary right now. SNO already exists for that.
>>41911026How many times must you hear "interacting with the opposite gender in day too day tasks is not the same as streaming with them"?
I generally like redheads but Dola doesn't do anything for me
>>41911026nta but we all know that isn't the truth of why you sperged out, answer him honestly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAIrcuSKILEKek, Nose uses the smoking maid image for her discord icon.4k at 5AM
>>41911026And this matters to you, why exactly? Even so much that you write blogposts about it.
>>41910745I mean, that's basically what Ame had.
>>41911107because he's autistic
>>41911074I literally never implied steaming with them, you did
RIRIMU SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>41911067>The bigger problem i see is her being so similar to the SNO vibeI think you need someone like that in a Gen as well though. You can't just have a gen being five "lightning rods" as you call it.
>>41911150I honestly don't know who the fuck implied these women aren't interacting with men, half the population, at least in some capacity. You're the one conflating that with real, consistent interaction aka-hanging out-streaming-being friendsetc
>>41910641Just check her model and mama,is it Japanese or related to hololive.guess what...https://twitter.com/kamamesigogo123/status/1487631238940692482?s=19
>>41911077fake and gaynot my ange
>>41911094who are the best vspos and why
>>41910641>valo chuubaAIEEEEEEEEEE at least tell me shes good
>>41911026Any sane woman is going to think you’re a creep pushing this kind of bullshit. There is a difference between professional relationships in a sanitary workplace environment and ones like streaming collaborations where you NEED to be able to casually speak to your collaborators. This isn’t the 1950s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFKG5F4d38oTateno Ito streaming on YT again, something about the money she lost.For those who don't know, she is the first indie vtuber that got saviored by reddit 2 years ago.Some blue cat png originallyGot to 10k+ subs, and made more than the money she needed at the time.Re-debut with this model, which was high quality at the time, but then just played FPS as a 2 view and ate away all the 20k$+ she made on amazon delivery expenses.
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>>41911094Man, I wish there's a chuuba that is brave enough to do a smoking stream or cigarette review
>>41911266Nose 2 might.
>>41911026Anon: they interact with men a lot. They have male coworkers (with the topmost of them being Tanigo), male managers, male Uber drivers, male siblings, male parents and grandparents and some even male life partners. >NOBODY GIVES A FUCKWhat people object the most of a bunch of professional losers and their followers demanding they give said losers attention, and moping with both the girls and their audience absolutely and publicly ignore them and their demands. If the girl wants to make her stream environment and intimate experience between her and her audience just back the fuck off and let her do her thing
>>41911257Indifference
>>41911257don't care redditshart
>>41911022>>41905468>>41911077
>>41911026Dude probably a non insignificant amount of these girls have autism or some other menhera issue. Would you be making these same arguments if it was autistic men who didn't want interact with women?You're entire argument this past hour just reads like some standard "girls can't be autistic or socially awkward if they're pretty and semi well adjusted" shit. Most of these girls have probably gotten WORSE with men since joining hololive because they have no need for outside casual relationships anymore
>>41911067An fps streamer needs to be absolutely cracked or it's just not fun to watch.
>>41911266If only Towa wasn't so coy about it.
>>41911107>And this matters to you, why exactly? This retarded conversation I've been following started because some idiot implied to someone else that these delicate wallflowers would fall apart if they interacted with 'weird men'. Then there were a few who seriously believe they don't even have to interact with them at work.It's retarded to imply these grown women are THIS fragile because A) it infantilizes them, making them seem unaccountable, and B) exploits their viewers, who seriously believe their Oshi is this snowflake who would fall apart without their donations and engagement. This goes beyond some gay argument about homobeggars. >>41911193>I honestly don't know who the fuck implied these women aren't interacting with menAbout 3/4ths up this thread, the people saying they don't even interact with them IRL.
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>>41911374You are really special huh
>>41911354You’re debating from the wrong POV. Forget about a “broken doll”, even if a well adjusted mentally sane extrovert girl wants to do her thing and completely ignore beggars, more power to her. Beggars have ZERO rights to demand anything, they can lay down and die for all the girls care
>>41911257Didn't Hisui do something like that?That's why the JP Niji sister hated her, being one of the guys.
>>41911257I... I'm not saving that
>>41911193>I honestly don't know who the fuck implied these women aren't interacting with menThis one:>>41911354>Dude probably a non insignificant amount of these girls have autism or some other menhera issue.You're making a perfectly grown woman with a job seem too mentally unstable to even hold a conversation and you need to stop. None of them are that big of spergs. They may be socially awkward but not literally curl up into a ball and die levels of incapable. The menhera aspect is overblown for character gimmicks.
>>41911266Didn't Hisui do something like that?That's why the JP Niji sister hated her, being one of the guys.
>>41911374Whoever said they don’t interact with men because they can’t are you wrongThey don’t because they don’t want too.Is this your point? If so you’re right, they’re wrong. They girls don’t want any parasite latching on their success, if that’s your argument I’m 100% in agreement
>>41910960derailing this threadWITH NO SURVIVORS
>>41911374Your posts are homobegging 101. Just because you think you are smarter than everyone else because you write long posts and use "ackshually" rhetoric, doesn't change that simple fact. You are not fooling anyone. Just stop and go back the where the fuck ever you came from.
>this stunt that could've gotten all Splatoon perms pulled for everyone was 4 months agoSo what happened to that one girl who got hit with the lawsuit?
>>41911473Could you find something earlier from when you actually started this retarded tirade?
>>41911433You're the one who asked. You only started throwing a fit about it when it was implied they were not, in fact, menhera balls of autism. Your big freakout stemmed from a simple statement of fact, that's not a sign of healthy attitudes and I hope you seek help.
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>ririmu art deletedmeido? have you seen /uoh/?
>>41911374Workplace: we want you to casually speak to your male coworkers. You must interact and form friendship of some kind.Woman: noWorkplace: you have male friends, a boyfriend, erc, you can do this.Woman: no, I’m not comfortable around strange men I do not know.What do you think happens if the workplace were to push this as some homobeggars seem to want to happen. Think there wouldn’t be potential lawsuits? Haven’t worked in HR, have you? Dynamics are different in the 21st century and you refuse to accept them.
why is all the cunny getting nuked?
>>41911537I wasn't the one who asked, i simply commented on your mental dysfunction
FAGGOTS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Kobo's Overdose cover as some serious legs on it it already at 1.2 million views and will probably get to 1.3 or 1.4 million by the end of the month
>>41911257Disgusting
>>41911539>>41905468>>41911538>>41911548The art was fine.Maybe the poster got banned for something else.
>>41911548Seems like there's a future immate among the jannies.
>>41911226Qpi. I like brown models
>>41911596>>41905468final leg btw. I could get more from Twitter, but no.
>>41911532>Could you find something earlierOk, how about the one I first replied to? >>41908611How about the ones who replied to me? >>41908808>>41908949>>41909310Reading some of these comes off as incel schizophrenia. Like seriously, they don't have interactions with weird dudes IRL? How does anyone know that?
>>41911520Fascinatingly, it’s not even considered progressive or ‘SJW’ rhetoric. It’s just baffling and reeks of ulterior motives with no rhyme or reason beyond creepy males trying to push other creepy males on girls who might not be comfortable around these SPECIFIC creeps (they may be completely comfortable around men, but might not necessarily be these men we’re talking about).
>>41911630>>41905468
>>41911644>might not necessarily be these men we’re talking aboutThis.
>>41911572Your mental dysfunction is that you see a factual statement and your only reply is "You're special". At the very least, have the balls to call me a retard, because I will certainly call you one.
>>41911473>You're making a perfectly grown woman with a jobThey aren't perfect you dense nigger.And this isn't just any run of the mill "job" either, this is a celebrity position with hundreds of thousands of eyes both native and foreign scrutinizing your every single fucking action.Some of them would rather just hang out with their friends and family after streaming and just call it a day, why do you want to force them to interact with complete strangers?
>>41911641Weirdly, in a den among unironic incels, the only one acting like an incel is you, anon.
What happen?I am not reading all those essay,can someone tell me why there is Redditor here?
>>41911661>>41905468
>>41911641>Like seriously, they don't have interactions with weird dudes IRL?Get off this site Kronii
>>41911644Creeps together strong?
>>41911374Mumei literally told some story like 2 days ago about how she was in a new social situation and got uncomfortable and awkwardly left early. Many of the girls talk about how they live alone or don't like to interact with people outside of Hololive. Others are paranoid schizophrenics about every action they take.Yes no shit people are going to parrot these points when the girls themselves are the ones saying they're socially autistic. If you have a problem with people believing the girls, take it up with them or shit on vtubers on reddit or something, you'll find people that agree with you there. At this point this conversation has just devolved down to you saying DYRBI? DYRBI? DYRBI? in a million different ways. Yes, people believe the girls are that fragile and autistic. Now shut the fuck up
>>41911644>>41911520What else does your crystal ball say? While prescribing ulterior motives, does it also show you which posts are mine and which are the strawmen you're fighting?
>>41911699>>41905468>>41911688Oborotai tried to explain himself.
look at this mumei instead
>>41911687You say that while I quote an entire block of incels whining and crying about their paranoia over girls interacting with men. Just casual interaction, nothing professional. You're the incel, here.
look at this Wamy instead
>>41911688Oboretai made a fool out of himself and this dude went on a retarded blog spree
The easy answer is>Why the girls don't collab with the males?>Because they don't want to.>B-but i want them to->No, respect her wishes.easy, now everyone can fuck off to watch some 2views or think a way to make the girls get more number in MC
Too many tits
>>41911641> Reading some of these comes off as incel schizophreniathis is Oboretai 100% lmao, I've seen this exact comment chain on his reddit account as well hahahahahahahahahaha fucking faggot
>>41911794Enough to off set the talk of testicles around here
Please send it back.
>>41911800Post it, then. I have no idea who the fuck that is and would like to at least know why stating a simple fact results in being labeled as him.
Youtube please stop...
>>41911641Here, I’ll let you into two female “secrets”First: when a guy confess to a girl and she replies with>you’re very cute and would make an excellent life partner but I am not looking for a relationship right nowwhat she actually mean is>hahahahaha, hell no! Not in a million years I would have anything with a loser like you, why do you think you even had a chance? Second: when a member of the audience proposes a collab with one of the homos and the Holo girl says >so and so is a very talented streamer but I shy and not looking for collab partners right nowwhat she actually mean is>hahahahaha, hell no! Not in a million years I would have anything with a loser like…you get the rest>pic unrelated
I was so hyped with Suisei I forgot that one girl from Phase Connect who called a male in the middle of a ASMR was suppose to come back yesterday, how did that go?
>>41911854No1 here cares about lia
Better yet look at this goomba instead
>>41911737>>419054681 more yashiro
>>41911778> just casual interaction, nothing professional.Jesus spoken like a true incel "nice guy" who has zero idea about how women think.A completely "professional" interaction with men is far more safer for a women than a casual one with social dynamics and all the "implications" that come with soft power."just casual" is only how it works for your retarded male brain, women are the complete opposite in this dynamic.
>>41911839Is this Aria “Haachama alter” when she was on that Hiatus?
Emperor how far you've fallen
>>41911880post more goombas noombas
>>41911725This may be the only legit post in this thread.Okay, so Mumei is that weird and socially awkward. But again, DYRBI? Do you really believe she is THAT awkward and it's not overplayed for a good story? > you saying DYRBI? DYRBI? DYRBI? well, it's a serious question. >Yes, people believe the girls are that fragile and autistic. Now shut the fuck upOkay, that's at least fair, I mean it's not objective but it is fair.
>>41911782N-no way, is the toxic fans that don't allow the girls to collab with my boys. They clearly want to but those incels are evil
>>41911781>>41911737being blast out from begging central reddit really did a thing to him huh.
>>41911889I don't know, but she's been streaming for 19 hours
>>41911782When you point to things like Gura/Irys/Fauna always wilfully ignoring Stars and talking about how they only want to hang out with girls, they either fail to read between the lines, or demand that they explicitly state "no homos" on stream so they can make rage bait clips and turn twitter against them
>>41911880Very breedable
>>41911883>>41905468Last
>>41911879fair enough I even forgot which one it was
>>41911725I’ll probably get shat as an ‘SJW’ but I generally consider myself progressive and while I’m not a feminist, I do follow some tenets of feminism. And the most important issue is to listen to women. If they aren’t comfortable with SPECIFIC men, then you comply. If they don’t want to deal with you, as a man, you comply. As a male, you have to understand your dynamics with women is different from how you interact with men. And the fact that Mr. Homobeggar can’t understand that while throwing out incel/MRA bullshit is quite hilarious considering where we’re at and how many anons are shitting on him.
Look at my cute pet dog / wife
>>41911831Go back to where you started sperging out.
>>41911839That name sounds familiarWho is she?
>>41911530Probably trying to find a way to pay off the damages. Prob gonna end up doing porn.
>>41911831point for fucking point Oboretai-kun, don't tell me you forgot your own schizo rants.
>>41911919>she's been streaming for 19 hoursTime for a visit.
>>41911782
>>41911917of course it hurt him, if not then he wouldn't made a community post or made his shills to protect him
>>41911884Christ this post reads exactly like one of Andrew Tate's rants off the deep end about women. How do you type this up and seriously not think of yourself as a socially awkward incel?>Female social dynamics boils down to power dynamics and the power of words over women's actions unlike your retarded male brain, women are constantly considering the-Or more likely, you just made a huge weirdo projection about other weirdos.
>>41911937>As a male, you have to understand your dynamics with women is different from how you interact with men. It’s not and that’s a retarded misconception. If a guy say he doesn’t want to interact with you, you must respect all the same. Thinking it’s different because they’re women doesn’t make you a “feminist”, it just makes you a misandrist.
>>41911972was posted before, she does insane stream marathons for subs
>>41911854There was no drama buff, if that's what you're asking.
>>41911976Man, Nintendo is such an asshole
>>41911981>other Holomems sexually harassing themThis fag has never had friends.
Look at this gold winner for today
look at this now
>>41912008>MisandristHAHAHAHA
>>41911976All I remember is she made some schizo flesh stream on an alt account after the main account was closed
We were too focused on today and forgotWhat are tomorrow gold contender?
>>41911924You did well anon, thanks.
>>41911903Nyo >:3
>>41911976Should do stream with her JAV in the background when it releases for the memes.
>>41911981idk who any of those people are aside from the Hololive talents but it's clear the sexual stuff is played for laughs as is the gross-out stuff. So no, I don't agree with him. You've just made a boogeyman who you believe shares any opinion of "The women clearly aren't THAT autistic".
>>41911067Agree with you regarding EN3 needing 1 or 2 lightning rods/high charisma types. Currently EN is not lacking in "comfy streamers" with Ina, fauna, and mumei. They need a "pon" type who can draw in viewers.
>>41912060Laugh all you want, man hating women and faggots are abundant and even socially accepted
>>41911976Wasn't she already doing porn? In fact the videos she streamed were her own porn unless i'm wrong
>>41912008You’re one of those MRA fags, aren’t you?
>>41911880pls win global gold goomba
>>41912065It's already marked by a goddess
why the fuck we have a social study graduate in this thread? >>41912043soda-chan i'm already diamonds
>>41912065I want to ask where to contact holostats.Because I feel like I need to archive the site for early data now because it's so fucking unstable these days.
>>41911922Or accuse the girls of being held at gun point and scared shitless by their community.
>>41912136>why the fuck we have a social study graduate in this thread? Social studies is fun. Applying it to Vtubers opens a lot of gates on why their audience interacts with them the way they do.
>>41911226>bestvery subjective.I like Asumi the best, but she's nowhere near the strongest. Maybe she's the best singer along Noah.Best entertainer is probably Hinano, now with Met.Coolest to watch are Nose and Ren.Best at FPS are Tsuna and Noah.Best trolls are Lisa and Sumire.Best loli is Runa.Best imouto Mimi and Nazuna.Best seiso are Ema and Toto.Best gyaru are Ramune and QpiSexiest for women is Ren.Ero top chuuba is Beni.Who is also best Misato.
>>41911972An anon was shilling her in some previous threads.
>>41912136Personally I don't care about this homobeggar enough to write my thesis throughout multiple posts.
>>41912167>>41911922That's a retarded opinion. idk why people keep saying I'm that guy, because that's the exact opposite of what I've been posting.
>>41912102take your meds and go to sleep faggot, the time for proper discussion ended when you whipped out the strawmen and started a spergout for no reason
>>41912102>The women clearly aren't THAT autisticThey aren’t, mate! They’re just letting your leeches down easily to not hurt their feelings or of their audience. They could be sincere>Collab with Tempus? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, hell no! >Did you see how shitty they are? ->90% chance they would fuck up and the VOD would have to be private>Even if not, their audience would start making their whole existence a product of our interactions>Thanks but no thanks
>>41912008Oborerai over here throwing around words like misandrist.
>>41912043It's mostly going to be talking with guests, anon. I don't think Sora lewds are on the table.
>>41912117I’m not. Quite the contrary, I’m one of those who believe in total equality and symmetry with regards to the treatment of men and women
>>41912043God i wish
>>41912223I have no idea what point you're trying to convey, you're a bad writerBy now we know which hololive members will do stuff with stars, which won't, and where the boundaries are for each. Nobody's changing their mind
>>41912167>A hero who try to save person that doesn't have any problems at allSomehow it reminds me of any self centered hero in isekai like Kouki in Arifureta
>>41912188Honorary Vspo is not here,who is towasama wife?
>>41912233>StrawmenIronic from the same fag strawmanning me as some homobegging piece of shit the whole thread when I never mentioned them or collabs once. >>41912255>They aren’t, mate! They’re just letting your leeches down easily to not hurt their feelings or of their audience.>They could be sincereI don't even think it's leeching, they don't have to because people in threads just like these have this strange relationship to a perceived personality they have. But yeah fuck Tempus. at least we agree that there's no value to be gained with collabing downward to their level.
>>41912065Sora easy gold.
>>41912313>Writes MRA bullshit like thisYeah, sure.
I read a bit through this retarded conversation and I don't even understand if the dude is a Twitter homobeggar mad that the girls don't interact with Tempiss or an unironic incel trying to prove that they are all complete liars sucking dick left and right behind the scenes. What was your point again?
>>41912278Why don't you believe anon? Who are the other contenders even anyhow
Why is this even a talking point even Cover said the girls can drive their character brand the way they want. Kronii chose vesperonii. Others chose cgdct. Other chose the lean even.
>>41912255IRyS already mindbroke reddit and when Gura counted 10 members for holoEN collabs beggars went into overdrive kek, they just bank into the girls will to not turn the stream sour to keep push their agenda.
>>41912380Tsuna
>>41912406He writes like an MRA tard, you know the dude is a redditor.
>>41912406Seems to be that the women are all gigastacies interacting with men and there's literally no way all of them aren't comfortable with it.
>>41912426Because it's not by their own free will when they choose CGCDT according to homobeggars
numbers?
>>41912356>I have no idea what point you're trying to convey, you're a bad writerOr you're a bad reader, which is most likely because you've made multiple complaints about the length of my posts and implied you didn't read them. >By now we know which hololive members will do stuff with starsAnd you STILL think anything I wrote has anything to do with Stars, when I didn't bring them up even once. Impressive you can hallucinate a post I didn't make.
>>41912389>I don't even think it's leechingIt is leeching. It’s not just between men and women under the company tho, just look at Uto. Exact same thing, trying to leech from Ame
>>41912492733772
>>41912452I like Bora design more than Tsuna...
This entire chain started with someone replying to your recent post dumbass : >>41908323>>41911831> I have no idea who the fuck that is>>41912102> idk who any of those people are>>41909253> I don't know who that is.>>41909530> I keep seeing this name and all I can think is "Rent free"rorurorurumaolet me send your own words back to you> DYRBI?
Is this /wg/? all i see is a retard talking about the girls wanting to collab with the guys
>>41912492
>>41912499Summarize your point in one sentence. Here, I’ll help you>Holo girls are more than capable of dealing with men, they just choose not to with those specific ones.
>>41912406You're reading 2-3 different arguments and are combining them into one because you've been thoroughly convinced everyone who disagrees with you must be one person, specifically one named person.I didn't even start the MRA Misandrist argument nonsense but somehow that's part of my argument how because everything uncomfortable in /vt/ must be the work of one reddit/twitter/youtuber.
>>41912406>What was your point again?There is no point. He got his feelings hurt and now he just can't stop. He's one straw away from meltdown.
>>41912492Astel is streaming over 7h
>>41912515To each their own. I honestly think her new model looks great.
>>41912535fungus inclining ah ah ah ah
>>41912529Congratulations, you've managed to link a post I didn't write, with another post I didn't respond to, and two other posts I also didn't write. How must that feel, being so wrong?
>>41912515Tsuna's tits look bigger but Bora's look softer.Red, mischievous cat suits her character better, but maybe in an alt outfit.
>>41912579Au naturel
>>41912532Just one homobegger and lots of bored people replying.
>>41912159i don't think he has any public contact methods, please do if you can though because another vnuma happening would be catastrophic
>>41912638I’m on /vt/, of course I’m bored.
>>41912576>>41912616To be fair, I rarely likes red haired girls. Maybe the color is too strong to my eyes
>>41912631nijigods
>>41912426because they tought this tweet would open the floodgates and sink the walled garden forever for holoEN, instead they now hold a guild of faggots with a ever shrinking box, while the girls gear up for holofes.
>>41912631I just noticed this guy has a Z mark over his eye kek
>>41912562I asked for your point and instead you deflected and played the victim card. No really I don't understand what the fuck you're trying to say and you don't seem to be able to express it either without weird gymnastics. State your argument loud and clear instead of hiding.
>>41912631It's almost like those background characters' eye things.
>>41911596i didn't get banned or even warned lol, no idea what it got nuked for
>>41912380Nose is Towa's ex.She's dating Tsuna again.Nose's wife now is Ratna Petit. Towa gets along with her well.Tsuna's also dating Mimi.Asumi is Tsuna's sister.Met is Nose's sister, she dated Tokyo too.Tower also dated Noah a few times.
>>41912757rogue anticunny janny melting down over ririmu pantsu
>>41912712This felt like that Rushia tweet where every retard were cheering for the lack of restriction in their personal life but failed to acknowledge the rest of the tweet, in this case that the girls had the right to say no to the homos.
>>41912718>I asked for your point Okay: >>41912559>Holo girls are more than capable of dealing with men, they just choose not to with those specific ones.This summary is fair. My point really is that infantilizing the girls is harmful to their public perception and to their audience. The concept they are not functional members of society while they have a public entertaining job is a tenuous illusion that only applies to a few edge cases. All the other jumbled arguments aren't mine.
Some Gooba to cleanse the palate of all this talk about testicles
>>41912421Probably Shuba/Polka
>>41912673too bad the site is fucked on my end now so can't do it.I'm not familiar with GitHub but looks like the site owner just updated something and it fucks the whole site.
>>41912788Thanks
>>41912426>Why is this even a talking point even Cover said the girls can drive their character brand the way they want. This I don't believe. Not really from a homobeggar perspective but more specifically a perspective of 'They are clearly not in charge of their character or brand and its portrayal is mandated for marketing purposes.'
It’s really fascinating how respecting a woman’s wishes (or anyone’s for that matter) and understanding that men have different dynamics with women is considered misandry.
>>41912815>They have freedom and some choose to not collab with maleIf you can't respect this, you don't care about freedom at all
>>41912757The hell is up with that.
>>41912576I love Tsuna's tits. They're like the perfect size/shape for me.
>>41912831February 12th, comeback stream with buff stuff (Minecraft maybe?). What kind of numbers are we expecting chumGODS?
>>41912426To homobeggars the free will of the talent exists only as long as they do as the homobeggars want. Then it goes out of the window.
>>41912863
>>41912908you should let the woman collab with a male, it's the woman's wishes after all, even if she didn't want to
>>41912788Looks like a big orgyfest
>>41912908Or that women who larp as anime women for a job likely aren't all put together socially
>>41912938That is exactly why the "afraid of their audience" cope was invented
>>41912961>It's not rape if she didn't say 'no'
>>41912822Hololive's brand pretty much is built on the girls being delicate flowers in their walled garden so I somehow doubt people backing that perception up are gonna be damaging their brand lol
>>41912964https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_y3Wj44M94
>>41912973ironically those beggar that can also fall into the same audience category that the girls fear.
>>41912822>This summary is fair.There are retards employing mental gymnastics to hang on the “the girls are too retarded to collab with the stars”. You can safely ignore those. Some girls are too retarded alright like Aqua in the past when she needed Subaru to rescue her from the advances of Aquahttps://youtu.be/U3eHSesXBiYbut for the most part the reason they don’t want to interact with the rest of th company>in particular, Holostarsis because there is no upside for them. Anyone saying anything other than this is just prolonging the argument unnecessary. It’s not that they’re not capable, it’s just that they’re not willing.
Roboco got almost 10K today, so yay!
>>41913000>Maybe homobeggar are not sisters but actually incelsI didn't expect that
>>41912822Okay cool. But the girls do that themselves. Some of them being social outcasts and pretty much on the spectrum is something that we get from countless hours of streams and different accounts. You just seem unable to deal with the fact that autistic socially awkward girls exist irl too and they aren't all gigastacies lying through their teeth.My ex gf was like that too, disgustingly shy and maladjusted and a virgin in her early 20s.
>>41912967You could be an alpha-Stacy and still not feel comfortable about casually speaking to the opposite sex. That is their prerogative and accusing others who respect their wishes as ‘infantilizing the girls’ or calling the people who respect their intent as incels won’t change that.
I just saw Polka's 3d live announcement, gonna have to lower my expectations since I was expecting something like last year live
>>41912822Asmongold is a public entertainer and he blew up his mom. xQc is a public entertainer and he's going through a common law divorce because he had to have his girlfriend be put on the titles for his sports cars because he can't driveBig streamers have NEVER been functioning members of society. Them being entertainers have nothing to do with it
>>41913058Her EAT series has been doing pretty decently too. Glad that she seems to be finding holes in the schedule and filling them and getting some decent numbers.
the holopro experiment has mostly failed but theyll keep it up for appearances sake, as an anon pointed out earlier they likely hadn't even scouted new girls since before Tempus even. They released Tempus to see how it would pan out between audiences and the girls plus how it would overall perform. After stagnating numbers they decided to give the stars more members ASAP as plans for full HoloPro have fallen apart and began to recruit for girls that will be more or less aimed at Hololive experience rather than HoloPro while also opening stars auds yet again immediately to supplement the boys with more members eventually. Naturally this upset Vesper who called out management for this course change and was suspended and has even sent Magni into doing other activities off of stars. I will not take my meds
>>41913071They behave like one at least.
>>41913071They’re throwing around MRA-speak, so I’m pretty sure the anon shitting up the thread probably is one.
wait mumei median of peaks is 10k+ this month?
>>41913333numberfagging her stream selection this month
Have some Aki to get you more masculine
>>41913162This rrat aside, can we just talk about Fauna actually going out and saying what we all want in regards to EN? Imagine how fucking grim that is
>>41913333Minecraft and karaoke are a very good mix.
>>41913354Auntie, you’re going to be late for your job at the retro bar…
>>41913371reading that transcript from the member stream was really sad.
>>41913333Yeah, she has been making good content this month.
>Good news!It seem towa is awake,try posting at Reddit to call her out for discussion about your male X female Collab opinion now!
>>41913401This Oba-san is already there, ready to serve you
https://youtu.be/Kwn32j8_-p0?t=298Holocure shoutout
How DARE Pekora actually enjoy cute youkais in Yokai Watch? Now I want her to play more of it