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Can ENvtubers ever achieve the idol dream of becoming a successful singer or is the cultural divide too much of a hurdle to cross for them?

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>> No.41905757

greetings yukichis i love cheese
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>> No.41906076

Not unless they exorcise themselves of the demon of progressivism and pledge themselves to the Patriarchy and can learn to at least play the role of a decent woman in a necessarily patriarchal society.

If they can't do that then they can't be anything like a proper Japanese idol, but it's cute to watch them try.

>> No.41906165

yes but it wont be the ones you expect, random indies are doing songs for indie games and they'll eventually become huge while the big corpo EN vtubers will be dragged down by their peers

>> No.41911482

>>41905509
successful in JP then? Because there are successful singers in EN

>> No.41911851

Mori did

>> No.41915346

>>41905509
To do that they must first learn how to sing. All of HoloEN have untrained voices unfit to become a true vocalist. Maybe Irys is the closest to a model singer but even she has some ways to go.

>> No.41915442

Good? No
Succesful? Mori already is

>> No.41915609

>>41905509
Mori did and she shats on every thing idol culture stands for

>> No.41915918

>>41905509
American successful singers are very different from japanese idols. I don't think girl groups of the past exist in the same way either.

>> No.41916068

>>41905509
>idol
>successful singer

These two are separate things

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>>41905509
Watame loves Fauna, please don’t use her for your bait threads

>> No.41916854

>>41905509
western fans have already crossed the cultural hurdle of becoming insufferable unicorns, so anything is possible

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>>41905509
>implying a EN vtuber will even work hard to get there

>> No.41917197

>>41915609
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.41917225

>>41915609
mori? mori is literally the biggest hypocrite in the world if we ever want to discuss an idol.

>> No.41917571

>>41905509
They need actual training to sing. They need to develop the skill to sing and song write. That takes literal years and the average vtuber career doesn't last long enough so unless they went in with those skills already developed they won't.

>> No.41917572

>>41911851
Not even closr

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>>41905509
https://shop.moricalliopeofficial.com/

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>yfw kronii chickens out of the festival

>> No.41917916

>>41917572
She is literally one of the only vtubers to have an actual contract with a real music agency.

>> No.41917960

>>41915609
Which idolculture
Idol culture according to AKB48, "idol culture" according to Love Live fans or """idol culture""" to lonely tards who treat streamers as their surrogate girlfriends?

>> No.41918222

>>41916068
Nana.

>> No.41918524

>>41917572
In what sense? She's successful as fuck. You might not like her content or music, but she makes mad cash and has real music contracts.

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