/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>76,524: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>70,079: Suisei (Hololive)
>53,737: Marine (Hololive)
>34,446: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>30,690: Gaku (Nijisanji)
>27,668: Pekora (Hololive)
>26,815: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>25,985: Subaru (Hololive)
>24,157: Meruto (Nijisanji)
>23,601: Mimi (VSPO)
>23,045: Koyori (Hololive)
>20,375: Nerumero (Indie)
>18,742: Watame (Hololive)
>18,335: Noel (Hololive)
>16,723: Towa (Hololive)
>16,182: Fubuki (Hololive)
>15,516: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,003: Botan (Hololive)
>14,914: Met (774 inc)
>14,239: Subaru (Hololive)
>14,050: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,644: Mumei (Hololive)
>13,378: Lamy (Hololive)
>12,328: Korone (Hololive)
>11,694: KAF (Kamitsubaki)
>11,434: Salome (Nijisanji)
>11,208: Okayu (Hololive)
>11,183: Ito Life (Indie)
>10,451: Koyori (Hololive)

This is the first Haachama VOD to cross 100k since September 28, 2022.
Surely she got boosted for this one and anon saying it could be a "Mumei boost" might be onto something.

More likely tho it is the indirect Pekora + Kanata influence, given that Pekora went to return the Haachama book and pin it on Kanata to control her room mate

I don't think roboco will hit 10k :(

why is JP7 called holoX instead of 7th gen? are they not going to use gen numbering anymore?

>>41905396
Why don't the West make male Vtuber like this anymore? Like, just a normal dude
Even Kuzuha is literally just a vampire in a tracksuit and Toya is just your local art student

>>41905468
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr
10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance
17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan
18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims
19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream
20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 59,617 - Apex CR cup
22) Toya (Nijisanji) - 53,947 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Leos
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 39,786 - Cooking stream
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,726 - Minecraft
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,769 - Viewer room reviews
26) Suisei (Hololive) - 54,206 - New hairstyle reveal
27) Pekora (Hololive) - 44,333 - GeoGuessr tournament w/Nene, Subaru & Noel
28) Yashiro (Nijisanji) - 76,524 - Project Sekai tournament

>PER COMPANY
20x: Hololive
7x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
13x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Towa
1x: Hololive, Koyori, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Roco, Subaru, Suisei, Toya, Watame, Yashiro

Is there a reason why Niji tournaments are so insular or they conduct their tournaments only with themselves? It doesn't seem like they got much out of it, their numbers are still shit.

>>41905472
It's JP6 for one and
>HoloRoku (Holo Six)
>HoRoku
>Horox
>Holox

Very few people know but Gen 4 has a similar "codename"
>HoloForce
coming rougly from
>Holo + Four

>Roberu has nude model they shoved off in homogra

>>41905396
>>41905404
Why can't holostars have a simple but memorable design like this one?

>>41905385
Natural in the same way as shitting yourself is natural

>>41905385
holy based last post

I just got reminded Gwelu exist, what happened to him? The vacation is taking longer than expected

>>41905472
anon your gen numbering reps...

>>41905624
He is getting divorced

>>41905514
If you take out the first army Nijisanji actually wins. Food for thought.

>>41905663
They don't. They would still be 14-13-1

>>41905624
Should've sang a different song

>>41905663
>If you take away gold Nijisanji would get gold
Nice way to say Nijisanji is behind them

/#/ is declining

>>41905555
Gen 4 was almost HoloEarth. They only changed it because it sounded like HoloAss when the Japanese tried to say it. HoloFive was meant to be the name for Gen 5 but it was killed in its crib. HoloFantasy also exists, but they only seem to occasionally remember that name.

>>41905298

>>41905562
they all do anon

What was the Irl number capacity for Okayu last sololive?

>>41905702
That's is essentially a coin flip. 50-50 nijisanji is winning.

>>41905780
Just look at the cripple tally if you want to remove first army that badly
Gura gone gives you your 50-50

HoloCHADS how did Suisei lose to inferior Niji!!!????

>>41905555
Does Gokisei have a codename that isn't the literal Holofive?

>>41905562
My son is becoming a whore ... No ...

>>41905750
It's incredibly weird that Cover keeps using the name when every other gen's branding was dropped, even sankisei
The idol outfit reveal ran through numbered gens 0-5 then suddenly SECRET SOCIETY HOLO X

>>41905663
Reminder that by this metric, Koyori is confirmed first army
I love her!

>>41905840
Originally it was HoloFive, but after Aloe's swift departure they've gone by NePoLaBo

>>41905863
I blame the lore autists in EN management
Probably convinced JP side this is the way forward

>>41905562
The cute comment in English that doesn't fit the situation at all is just too perfect

>>41905468
test

>>41905470
>is the first Haachama VOD to cross 100k since September 28, 2022.
chammers.....

my cute wife

>>41905750
I mean even Sankisei themselves have referred to themselves as "Sankisei" since the beginning
Who can stop them?

>>41905624
He's brewing a new shitpost.

>>41905780
kek, if you remove the First Army, vaporize their audience, nuke COVER HQ, kidnap Pekora, unbraid her hair, break her fingers, lock her into a soundproof box, cover it with a chicken wire mesh for form a Faraday cage and ship her to Afghanistan to become some Taliban warlord wife that will forbid her from studuying or using the internet, then maybe
>MAYBE
Nijisanji can tie

>>41905863
They tried to make rokisei the new face of hololive for the future, so they shilled them non stop
Too bad Laplus turned out to be a dud

>>41905396
This is how you design a brotuber

It has been a full day and Fauna still has not acknowledged her idol outfit despite being online after it was released. She genuinely doesn't belong in Hololive. She has absolutely no idol spirit and no respect for the senpai that got her there. She shows up on Twitter, delays her stream with a flimsy lie about how her "brain isn't working", doesn't talk about her idol outfit at all, retweets nothing about it and shows no enthusiasm whatsoever. Because she doesn't actually give a shit. Fuck Cover for hiring her, fuck cover for giving her an outfit, and fuck all her lobotomized fans who can't actually think for themselves and instead just mindlessly throw money at her and watch her trash streams when she deserves it the least.

>>41905960
>>41905912
>>41905863
Reminder this is yet another thing Niji do that whoever is in charge of recruitment learnt from

>>41905468
Suisex? More like SUISUX

>>41905472
HoloX is gen 6. I know because Chloe's greeting namedrops "rokkisei" and her design contains a belt with "06".

>>41905945
Kiara similarly turned on EN management and now frequently refers to Myth as gen 1

>>41905981
him and maimoto are based

>>41905981
This ain't bro, this is my manager
Kuzuha and Toya look more like my bros

>>41905981
I don't think that's how eyes work

>>41905472
Yes gen numbering is only for real idol group, hololive have part way from idol culture, that's why holoX and EN don't use gens

this is why everyone makes fun of you robocosan

>>41906000
Probably because they frequently introduces themselves as EN1 in japanese

what is this?
https://twitter.com/hololive_goods/status/1618890937341710336

Someone really cares about Fauna huh.

So no graduation this month? Are they gonna fire 2 in February?

>>41906056
i miss you sio

>>41906056
I make fun of her because she is a dumb sexy bimbo

>>41906000
I think she only really does that in japanese

So this is what nousagi look like huh, fun fanbase

>>41905562
I think they all do, I remember the myth girls talking about Gura once showing off hers. Here is a clip of Ina bringing it up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5XTPvVfOyI
Also holy shit 1.3 million views, those were the golden days.

>>41906067
Itajaga, they're a snack that includes a trading card. Bandai does a lot of those things

>>41905981
Look perfect

swagapino status?

>>41906159
Pegor needs to wear that mask more, and emote more for that matter
watching her and marine play RE6 back then it was pretty noticeable how Marine would frequently change expressions as needed while Pekora just maintained her :> face the whole stream

>>41905921
>>41905468
bigger

>>41906056
Can anyone introduce bedwars meta to the nips
They need to level up their mc autism

>>41906217
>>41905468
smaller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIWFkkBM5DU
New Suisei single is a banger, but it definitely hits harder live.

>>41905981
NEETbros I don't identify with this man.

>>41906250
Bedwars is garbage, if you want PvP hunger games or race for the wool are superior

>>41906277
Steal your dad's buttoned shirt and lanyard while he's at work

>>41905981
Even Nijisanji doesn't design males like this anymore

>>41906268
>>41905468

>>41905993

>>41906023
Incidentally, they both are designed by the same artist. Maybe Cover should hire him for Holostars? https://twitter.com/otototo_

>>41906277
But can you identify with Kuzuha?

>>41906346
>>41905468

>>41906370
>checks gallery
what a terrible day to have eyes

>>41906208
Pekora can only focus on one thing at a time so it happen

>>41906370
Uhhh that twitter looks a bit gay

>>41906392
>>41905468
>>41906383
I'm not in a serious relationship with my mom's drinking buddy, so no.

>>41906370
>bara
Maybe I would've expected that a bit more if Maimoto and Yashiro had thicker eye brows

>>41905981
>This is how you design a brotuber
>>41906023
>him and maimoto are based
>>41905498
>Why don't the West make male Vtuber like this anymore? Like, just a normal dude
Because they're FUCKING DUMB!

I can only imagine how much Vesper could have been improved if, instead of "we've got Alucard at home", he would have this model
>pic related
(but without the chuuni mask shit)
Just a dude, dressed either in a suit or in a smart casual outfit

kek i thought it was obvious that both maimoto and yashiro were drawn by a gay bara artist. there is a reason why they both have a male majority in their audience.

>>41906536
i mean just look at roberu casual outfit, something along those lines would be miles better of tempisspoop guild chuuni shit, it's like putting a niche debuff before the debut.

>>41906536
Only problem is that western males with models like that tend to have the twinkiest voice ever.

>>41906536
yeah, no. I don't see this one appealing to a male audience, especially not a mainstream one. It creeps me out. Maybe nu-male weebs or asian males

>>41905498
Afraid of taking risks even though the constant pretty boys aren't guaranteeing viewership either

>>41906663
Yeah but they could just hire someone who doesn't have a twink voice

Saw Kiara's graph in previous thread and initially thought "Holy Recline" but I got surprised when I compared with her previous one and this was in 2021. I guess she is one of the few EN who neither inclined nor reclined ?

>>41906549
>both maimoto and yashiro were drawn by a gay bara artist
>there is a reason why they both have a male majority in their audience
I don't get it, are japanese gay people actually real?

>>41906484
>>41905468

>>41906704
and get vox. Be honest with me, are you bi? Because you seem biased toward fujoshit.

>>41906723
>>41905468

>>41906721
No gay bara artist actually know how to draw good males

>>41906769
>>41905468

>>41906648
Eh, the whole Adventurer's Guild thing is one of the things Cover did absolutely right. People who watch vtubers are nerds in the first place, a dude in a T-shirt is going to become a fleshstreamer. D&D party members though? Nerdbros.

>>41906549
Because Maimoto gambles and talks about sports. Yashitro plays games and is bit of a chuuni.

Pretty nice twitter numbers. If it was up to debuffson, this would all be a paywalled secret lmao

Is Koyori funny? Everyone talks about how much she streams, but never really about the content itself. And I hardly see clips of her outside of Asakoyo, but that usually due to some other holomem being funny and Koyo reporting on it.

>>41906833
She is a brat with creaky knees that needs to be corrected

>>41906833
She cute and remind me of Pekora and Miko with the voice and mannerism
I wasn't joking when I first spread the "PekoMiko daughter" meme

>>41906711
No, Kiara just finished reclining long ago and is down to the very core of her audience.

>Niji won
Well this thread will be trash all day. See ya tomorrow

>>41906764
No I'm not. And really that kind of thing is not fujoshit. Vox is gay because of what he does and how he acts, but if he was just normal he'd be just a random british guy playing OSRS. You don't hear a british voice and instantly feel homosexual do you?
You know what is a fujoshit design? Axel's leather daddy and chains design

>>41906832
ah yeah, that reminds me

>>41906832
The fact Ame's surprise Autism has spread through the entire EN branch is such a pain.

>>41906833
I don't think she's more entertaining than Chloe or Laplus desu

>>41906874
Why? The won once in a while and nothing bad happened
If anything it will be homobeggar being annoying again when EN stream

>>41906919
A lot of them look up to her because she helps them with tech and sets up all the vrchat anniversaries

>>41905933
university kinda killed her schedule

>>41906816
>>41905468

>>41906874
>People only talking about Roboco, VSPO's Ema and Ame
why?

>>41906947
She has some great solo moments like when she lost her fucking shit against the easiest boss in ER

>>41906919
>>41906997
Also like it or not, she is the creative director of EN. Much like how Marine is the la creatividad of JP, they influence their genmates way of doing things

Here's something interesting, Kiara confirmed to be in Japan for a month for work stuff.

>>41906833
She's cute. I don't really think humor is her strength.

>>41907039

>>41907003
>>41905468

>>41906919
Yeah, I’d glad Gura cut ties her, she was dragging her down.

>>41906890
>You don't hear a british voice and instantly feel homosexual do you?
kind of. And I agree Tempus' designs are fujobait. It's more of a feel than something specific, like Kizuku screams gay to me and I just checked his artist, of course they're super gay. Clearly non-human characters (without entering furry territory) might work on a male audience.

>>41905750
> HoloFive was meant to be the name for Gen 5
Holofive will always be 5 people.
This is why they came up with a new group "NePoLaBo" for Gen 5.

>>41907051
I thought she just left? And she'll be back immediately?

>>41907063
>saving thousands of dollars on hotel costs
about damn time.
Unless it's MoriHouse.

>>41906874
The thread has been fine honestly. It'll get shit when the EN audience starts coming in.

>>41905945
I guess it's only from Gamers that gens started having names.
Like HoloFantasy.
1st gen didn't exist until recently and 2nd gen were far apart.
Although I do remember them giving themselves a group name recently, but I forgot what it was.

>>41907095
I mean she was always clear that her december trip was just gonna be for pleasure. It does seem a little odd to be going back and forth like this though

>>41907095
Yeah she just came back to check up on her cats and family for a week. I'm like 90% sure Myth is gonna be prepping their 3d showcases in February.

>>41907068
>>41905468

>>41907063
>mori bought a house
it was in Japan right?

>>41907051
I mean, that's a given, given Gura and Ina are already there. There's a LOT of recording Myth needs to get done
>3d showcase
>Birthday lives
>Holofes stuff
Plus whatever else they can manage to cram in while they have access to the official studios.
>

>>41906890
you have to agree bong accents aren't exactly manly. I guess mannerisms are important but still.

>>41905385
thinking about it? nah
fantasizing about it? nah
actually making plans to do it irl? that's a step too far

>>41906890
Vox's design is EXTREMELY gay. He's a pretty boy with makeup dressed in a fucking suit. By contrast Axel's got some shounen vibes to him

>>41907063
>Staying together for a whole month
Unironically the best way to destroy Myth unity forever, living with people either makes you best friends or everyone starts to hate each other. It's what happens to every streamer house like the OTV one

>>41907115
Nah, Mori might not even be staying at the house cause she has her own place.
>>41907095
Kiara mentioned in a previous stream that if she knew about this upcoming trip (since it's for work) she would've gone to Japan earlier and not in January.

>>41907127
Well Sankisei still use their name for their event though. Remember Marine 3D gathering named "Interact Fantasia"? And then "Connected Fantasia". I'm glad they are consistent with their gen name

>>41907151
One in Japan, one in America. Ina is giving Gura headpats, wherever it is they're staying rn.

>>41907177
>actually making plans to do it irl? that's a step too far
it's literally conspiracy to commit a crime

>>41907145
>>41905468

>>41907151
She should have 1 in the US and the latest one in Japan.

>>41907180
I can agree to that but Vox's design is also way gayer than the one anon linked too

>>41906817
>D&D party members though? Nerdbros.
Anon, I play DnD since before 3rd edition more or less botched the whole thing.
At least in my circles people ABHORRED chuuni retards roleplaying their characters outside the game.

We were all retards (can't really be normal and have this sort of hobbies) but at very least we tried to keep that shit IN GAME, looking mostly normal to the outside world: just plain students or yuppies

>>41907152
I sincerely doubt they will do much more than just that based on the atrocious waiting time for using the 3D studio

>>41907115
I think Ina mentioned it was a House that cover got for them while they were there, like they did when ID1 was in Japan to do their showcase.

>>41907227
>>41905468

>>41907195
Can it get any worse than it did after the off collab arc?

>>41907195
Anon, knowing that it's temporary helps a ton. The issue with the OTV shit is that you also had it as co-ed and on a long term basis, which is an absolute recpie for disaster.

>>41905663
I mean if you look at the list Hololive is 99% Pekora, /#/nig narratives are pretty skewed from reality as a whole.

It’s also pretty stunning how much JP vtubing has kept on growing vs EN vtubing, and specifically the heights of HoloJP vs HoloEN falling straight off a cliff.

>>41907151
I thought I saw people saying Ina said they were staying in a Cover house? I sincerely doubt they'll have them stay in Mori's house

>>41907063
There's going to be a fight sometime.

>>41907271
>>41905468

>>41907272
oh yeah, look at what's happening with Tempiss. And even that can get worse.

>>41907280
Isn't OTV the group that had some blueballed dude that almost sexually assaulted someone?

>>41907311
>>41905468

>>41907202
that's true...
speaking of, nikisei live when?

>>41907362
>>41905468

>>41907063
>>41907195
>5 women in the same house for a whole mont
I hope they find more people to socialize because they're gonna end up hating each other. It's amazing how cover (or holoEN management) seems to not understand women.

>>41907272
Gura will get raped again but this time by Mori's japanese friends

>>41905863
All the girls usually introduce themselves as rokkisei anyway. It's mostly just Cover pushing the name for branding.

>>41907408
>>41905468

>>41906833
>Is Koyori funny?
Honestly yes. As an EOP I find her screaming and suffering in her various Ghosts n Goblins, Mario, DKC, Sekiro, ER playthrough some of the most entertaining content from Hololive as a whole.
Her Goemon collab with Korone was one of my favorite from last year.
https://youtu.be/bzQ1c_NAedA

>>41907412
Damn. I hope they stream it Big Brother-style.

>>41907457
>EN
>Streaming

Man I missed this type of 2019 kino...

>>41907419
you jest but Mori's 100% gonna invite his japanese weirdo friends to hang out. If at least one of them is a creeper using her to get closer to the other girls, that's a guaranteed disaster.

>>41907439
>>41905468

>>41907440
true, though she tries a bit TOO hard sometimes.
Like the time she had her first collab with Towa, who frustratingly told her to shut up because she was doing too much.

Selejo Blue is a 3view now? I thought she had escaped from that curse.

>>41906872
But still I find it impressive that the 'core' audience did not erode in over one and a half years.

Also just curious but is this the same situation for most of the NijiJP members especially the girls like Honma, Amamiya, Sasaki etc.. ?

>>41907492
I'm glad Chammers is back in MC interacting with the other girls again

>>41907494
Is Trashtaste still in japan?

>>41907507
>>41905468

>>41907063
Hopefully this can save their dying branch

>>41907541
I fail to see why they wouldn't still be there

>>41907516
Kiara has experience being a real idol. She knows the dark arts to create a fully loyal fanbase.

>>41907412
>>41907195
how long will it take for one or more of them to find her own place away from the others

>>41907494
Yeah I'm joking but I really, really hope Mori controls herself on this front. We don't need the girl with the retard helmet meeting up with the japanese underground rap scene

>>41907541
Didn't those niggers backstab her anyway at the height of one of her dramas

>>41907555
>>41905468

>>41907233
Yeah, but vtubers ought to be in character on some level while on stream, so I consider your point moot.

>>41907541
Kadokawa is still paying them, yes.

>>41907532
MC is Haachama’s game.

>>41907586
All of them plus Chris Broad and Sharla are showing signs of wanting to go back to their respective homes for the longest time now

>>41907613
>>41905468

based dolaposter

>>41907659
>>41905468

Is Mel close to the end?
Weren't perms expiring soon?

>>41907605
qrd?

>>41907590
lol, that gif is still looping in my head. It’s too fucking funny.

>>41907650
I don't think anyone here knows who you are talking about

>>41907625
That's true but Vesper character didn't need to be
>Knockoff vampire that never ever for a single second to any "vampiry" stuff
It could easily be
>regular ass IT guy that likes to play DnD and has a side gig streaming in his spare time
He could EASILY be the dude on the left, Chris from IT Crowd (the one and only existing version)

>>41907698
No one knows exactly when outside it being sometime in February.

>>41907590
She's good at inspiring loyalty in her viewers, but I wonder if it came at the cost of mass appeal.
It is a skill you need to survive in the underground unpopular idol industry though.

>>41907233
I mean, as long as you find Coco, Noel, Ange, Flare, etc. dumb chuuni fantasy shit then at least you'd be consistent anon. Otherwise you just look like a fucking retard for not realizing that a very large amount of VTuber characters are taken from fantasy settings that are well in line with a generic fantasy TTPG.

>>41907650
>>41907725
Missing pic

>>41907706
Anyone that knows enough about Trash Taste to ponder whether or not they want to leave Japan knows about their "extended universe"

>>41907401
When they can get together to do something, maybe start by appearing in each other live like Sankisei? It's a good start
I wonder why Sankisei started doing that after Rushia departure, or whose idea was it

Niji art spammer. Can you post art of the loliest girl in the gold stream?

>>41907708
I just remember during her lean drama I think one of those anitubers she was cozy with tweeting with one of the Vshojos mocking Mori for whatever she was doing at the time

>>41907729
nta, but why is everyone discussing this? The main problem with stars or whatever isn't their designs

>>41907605
You mean during the "Condom money for Connor" shit?

Then no, she went to their weddings and they do a lot more stuff on her RM side.
Most likely they decided together that the shit wasn't worth the "fan" outcry and stopped most Mori (vtuber) -TrashTaste activity outside of sponsored stuff, like the manga awards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRFam1PME9s

>>41907805
I suddenly realize that normal looking male Vtuber actually look pretty cool

>>41907793
No, because Dola won.

>>41907799
I honestly do not think Mori is knowledgeable enough about social cues to realize when "friends" are making fun of her

>>41907755
She can rely on myth, has friends in the JP branch and is in Hololive. She is fine and always has the possible of inclining

>>41907755
Kiara had already shot herself in the foot from day 1. With the terrible mic, the crying about being the runt on her first stream, the bad game choices, the subscriber milestones (when Gura was already doubling her)
I mean this is stuff even she has said she fucked up and regrets. I think her pivoting the way she has was probably the best way to save a sinking ship

And like we always say with Kiara, it's not all doom and gloom with her. she has good vod views and good song views. I think things would be a lot better for her if she moved out of the EU timeslot

>>41907765
> I wonder why Sankisei started doing that after Rushia departure
Isn’t it obvious? To project the image of Sankisei’s strength, that even if a member disappears they’re still a tight-knit generation. 3rd Gen was the Hololive’s golden generation, and they want to keep it that way.

>>41907858
That is the curse of Hololive. You know that your content isn't obscure because the holobox exists. People just don't tune in.

>>41907858
Inclining is possible but I want to see what can incline Kiara. She tried everything, not even being graced by FIrst Army incline her

>>41907761
I have never seen these people in my life.
>>41907833
Nijifags are worthless

>>41907759
>at least you'd be consistent anon
Anon, the whole conversation is about the lack of normal dudes among male vtubers.
>b-but girls are chuuni too! It's not fair! You're not being consistent
People expect different thing from male vtubers and female vtubers. What works for one set doesn't necessarily works for the next and I maintain: Vesper would have a better chance as a regular ass IT dude as his avatar (matching the persona he presents in his streams) than a crude gay vampire that resembles a Dollar Store Alucard

>>41907830
In a world of emo fuccbois, the normal dude is king

>>41907698
>>41905468

>>41907793
I didn't watch the stream, don't know who participated.
Just caught the end of Dola's stream after people said she won.

>>41907889
Something I like to bring up is her Holocure update stream. She immediately went into her tangent mode which is what her regular viewers love, but the tourists were not down for it.

>>41907894
I just think that they thought it was fun. I mean Flare actually was so bold that she only invite Sankisei for her anni

>>41907063
Nice, Gura can have even more parties with Mori's junkie friends!

>>41907889
>moved out of the EU timeslot
She doesn't even have to do this entirely, just move her steam later so she can be a waiting room for Ina instead, but that would leave out her SEA fanbase which I guess is important for her.

>3 hours
>only 8.7 views
Bigger flop than FlopRyS.
https://youtu.be/pIWFkkBM5DU

>>41907934
>>41905468

>>41907943
Yeah I can agree with that, that was pretty bad. She wasn't really focusing on the game at all and started talking about the netflix shows she watches with her mom

>>41907906
She can always shift her content, but Kiara is stubborn.
>>41907916
If the studio wasn't full, being a guest in 3D lives would help her a lot

>>41907943
I don't think it's a bad strategy, she's grabbing viewers that like the way she streams. Abandoning her stream style is risky for her core fanbase.

>>41907830
Yeah, they're just like me fr fr.
Except for the streaked red hair, my scalp is allergic to the coloring.

>>41907755
Nah all holo members have loyal viewers but the only thing I find impressive is her superchat numbers despite half her branch getting double or triple the number of viewers regularly.
I feel the same with that scarle girl from Niji.

>>41908058
No this is too far in the other direction. He was going for some ugly bastard shit

>>41907958
>Flare
I hope peko and marine saviourfag her more...

>>41907981
>>41905468

>>41908087
She is the SC-type, less viewers but they throw more money at her

>>41905468
7-17 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>41908087
I was just interested in how successful she was at basically replicating the small idol survival strategy.

>>41907425
Seems like Cover pushed individualized branding since Myth so yes it might be Holo EN management influence.

>>41907805
>The main problem with stars or whatever isn't their designs
The main problem definitely isn't the avatars but it adds to the problem.

It's not a lot different from the female side, except in the opposite direction and I'll use Pikamee as the example.
Pikamee had the most unique, most likeable and one of the most recognizable avatars in the industry and she diluted it with a series of "downgrades"; including her "cute loli" model.

Model usually means FUCK ALL for a streamer (in the big picture) and I'll agree to that point, the handicap for stars is not their models but a series of other things including being "Hellmann's ketchup".
But "gay dollar store allucard" fucked Vesper as much as his own bad demeanor and poor career planning.

>>41908058
>bike tie
>bike in the background
that's so "vtuber with only one hobby"

Why does Banderas have Kyoko and Salome in his DQ3 thumbnail?

>>41908091
Did you miss MariFlare Cuphead arc? Or all the random MariFlare collab that suddenly happen recently?
They (Especially Marine) really don't want to left Flare behind

Why are you posting Shamiko?

>>41907516
KFP is considered a cult for a reason.
There are so many filters that can prevent a sane individual from enjoying Kiara, from her EU centric timeslot, to her naturally annoying voice (that she doesn't take advantage of btw, she could turn into a pekora type character with that voice but she doesn't want to), to her abrasive german personality, there are so many things that stop a tourist from becoming her fan. And not even touching on all her yabs and menhera shit over the years, her PL drama or the whole orcschizo arc.

Those that have overcome all of these and still continued watching her are some of the most mentally unstable individuals on the entire planet. Perfectly matched audience for her, but at the same time these people will be stuck to her for life (even through rm), but the numbers will not grow easily at all.

>>41908125
>myth blew up
>guy in charge get's lauded with praise and is now consulted with every decision even though he did nothing
>his incompetent thoughts now run the branch

>>41907235
Well maybe the studio time is clogged up because they decided to prioritize 3d debuts to the side branches since it's been a long time of waiting

>>41905468
tf I didn't know Pomu was doing that well

>>41908097
>>41905468

>>41908157
>Shamiko
She's way too small.

>>41907916
>She tried everything
False, the one thing she refuses to try is also a thing she's said is a red line she's never changing: the chicken voice
Her character voice + the way she EQ'd her mic based on her shitty gamer headphones means she's very loud in the exact frequency range that's been scientifically determined to be the most annoying to listen to

>>41908168
In that case the en girls haven't been informed about it

>>41908122
One thing about Kiara that I like is when her idol experience comes through. I think she's usually pretty good at the variety stuff cover likes to have them do

>>41908058
Where is his boar spear

https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1198520734164717568?s=20&t=9FoIYXVanxufmtRj_1GyEA
Yoooooooooo rare Pekora moment. She usually retweet art but to see her actually reply to them is rare

>>41908198
>>41905468

>>41908174
It's not that great for a 3D showcase. I would at least expect nijien to pass the iofi line

>>41908235
Fucking lucky bastard

>>41906711
She inclinied if anything.

>>41908174
>That well
Literally the worst of her wave

>>41908253
I didn't know it was a 3D showcase, but at the very least people are still Pomu

>>41908143
A fan made fan art and he decided to use it

>>41908241
>>41905468

>>41908143
That's Maimoto too.
Maybe they fit the DQ 3 characters/party?

>>41908235
what the fuck
what is so special about this

>>41908283
No she beat Finana by like 2k

>>41908283
Got more SC on her 3D Debut than Finana or Elira and it was not even close

>>41892453
I’m replying to an old message, but its actually bugging me: this is gross. Some adult man trying to push girls into collabing with strange men they potentially don’t want to talk to is just some nasty-ass behavior.

>>41908235
>2019
why are you posting years old tweets?

KNEEL TO LAMY!

https://youtu.be/uDEAVmE0MCE
>Recommendation
Laschizos getting fucking desperate

>>41907973
She does not really stream during EU hours anyway because she wants JP and SEA too.

>>41907916
Do you really think it's as fucking easy as "collab with them once, now people like you"?

>>41908298
>>41905468

Ruri-nee also did a fake First take if anyone is interested.
Her 3D rigging is so smooth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFWmHo0HYNU

>>41908323
Oboretai is a lot of things, and a hololive fan is certainly not one of them.

>>41908314
https://twitter.com/tomozu100/status/1619340239469969410?s=20&t=9FoIYXVanxufmtRj_1GyEA
It's a she and she also went to the Pekora fan meeting today. Seem her tweet is the most popular one in the fan meet tag

>>41906817
But that doesn't work for the sisters who are the target audience for male chuubas. Omega is a retard and probably told them to do what appealed to his nerdy ass without thinking about the fanbase like he always does.

>>41905498
>Why don't the West make male Vtuber like this anymore? Like, just a normal dude
Because the JP managers who make vtubers for the west are borderline insane and want to make everything into the absurd fantasy land they think the west is like. That's why Hololive makes a guild of asians and westerners starring pinoys and mexicans and Niji makes the Backstreet Boys

>>41908235
>2019
slowchama..

>>41908332
CHUKI CHUKI WAMY

>>41908208
She seems fine when she's speaking Japanese...but when she speaks English...

>>41908362
>>41905468

>>41908323
>push girls
>strange men
Jesus you are infantilizing the holowhores so much. They are grown women that are millionaires with boyfriends, take a chill pill

>>41908332
why?

>>41908387
If she used her japanese speaking tone all the time it'd be at least 10x better than what she's got going on now

>>41908381
>>41908328
The artist suddenly brought it up again and it show up in my TL, just thought it was interesting cause I didn't know Pekora actually reply to fanarts

Triangle...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxXYpvUdVVw

>>41908397
>>41905468

https://playboard.co/en/channel/UC53UDnhAAYwvNO7j_2Ju1cQ
Dola made 3551$ from the 3 streams in the tournament today.

>>41908374
oh lmao I guess this is Pekora trying to appeal to mesu nousagi huh

>>41908401
DON'T THINK, JUST KNEEL!

>>41908362
Wonder if we’re gonna see another wave of homages. I remember loving the first time, EdoLena’s model having headphones already leading her to put the 2nd set on upside down was pretty hilarious on top of some great singing.

>”Joshu-kun I can’t take it anymore, I just wanted to have fun. All you want is numbers”

>>41908376
Yeah isn't extensive lore one of those things that's only really popular with men?

>>41908442
>>41905468

>>41908457
but I love 2D women

>>41908480
>>41905468

>>41908477
>extensive lore
>popular with men?
Men just want one thing and it's disgusting!
>cute girls

>>41908225
Even though IRyS is my second favourite EN, my one big criticism of hers (which is Kiara's positive point) is that she does not collab with JPs more or even have collab covers with other JP/EN members.
I don't want her to spam collabs but atleast one collab a month would be good.

Jesus even Choco has female fans huh...

>>41905498
How many ‘normal dudes’ are going to want to become a vtuber? You mostly end up with creeps looking at vtubing like their own private brothel and menharas that clearly aren’t on their meds.

>>41908504
gotcha senpai

>>41907509
Valo debuff is too much....

>>41908513
>>41905468

>>41908504
Agreed that 3dpd thot is to ugly to be wamy

>>41908376
Tempus 1 was supposed to cater to male fans, not female. That was gen 2

>>41907973
Her slot, for better or worse, is just awkward. EU definitely wins the most though. For NA she's during the day and degen to early morning for JP / SEA.
> 00:00 JST to 08:00 JST
> 16:00 CET to 00:00 CET
> 10:00 EST to 18:00 EST

>>41908547
>>41905468

>>41908374
How do these fan meetings handled anyway? Do the fans actually get to talk one on one with the Vtuber? They're safe from the cum-in-hand handshake sort of thing, but isn't there still the risk of a random anti getting in and making a big fuss or insulting the Vtuber right in the face/bringing up sensitive information?

>>41908399
And many of them joined Hololive to avoid weird dudes. It’s one thing if you join Nijisanji, you know what you’re getting into. But Hololive? The likelihood that many of these girls joined for a ‘safe space’ is quite high.

>>41907509
You're never further than 1 bad day away in Nijisanji.

>>41905863
I don't think even the biggest Cover shill could deny they have no fucking idea what the fuck they're doing with branding.

From the hololive production debacle, to trying to give each gen a specific name when the numbers work fine, to TWICE trying to kill the holostar name and replace it with something they hope would be more popular(Uproar/Tempus).

>>41908586
>>41905468

>>41908323
I mean, if you look at it from a clippers perspective: he's just looking out for himself. The problem is that
>Clippers are parasites, all of them
>hololive doesn't have a dedicated staff of clippers of their own to create clips and put these hacks out of business.

You can't blame the guy for going where there's money and no competition. You can blame Hololive for being so out of touch that they let people like this dictate community behavior because they don't do their jobs.

>>41908521
It’s interesting imagine what women see in the Holos. I bet some of them actually look up to them, but can you imagine being a young girl and want to become like Pekora?

>>41908636
>>41905468

>>41907943
Or Elden Ring when she again got tourists but then sat down, stopped playing, and went on a tangent. It was funny seeing the grays seething and telling her to play the fucking game

>>41908611
That doesn't paint them in a better light. Do they wear burquas when they go out for groceries, too? They're dealing with 'weird dudes' all of the time, they're just not telling you about it.

>>41908585
she starts to early for EU. when I get to watch her she is already reading supas. maybe she wants high school students to watch her after school

>>41908675
>>41905468

>>41908603
You get two minutes in a booth with a webcam. If you cause an issue, there’s always security on hand. Nothing stops you from being rude beyond the cost and time involved, but it turns out most people aren’t that brave off the internet.

>>41908058
I'll have to ask his thoughts on the new Trigun series.

>>41908658
>but can you imagine being a young girl and want to become like Pekora?
Her parents need to prevent this immediately.

>>41908711
I think what people say about Kiara wanting SEA and EA makes sense. I mean it's well known she has a lot of Korean fans

>>41905950
The Boton rescue arc will pull 150K easy

>>41908718
>>41905468

>>41908734
Nah Hikosan is pretty cute

>>41907590
A very very very small loyal fanbase.

oh I forgot this existed...
almost 1M, cool

>>41908699
Not everyone is comfortable with the opposite sex. Certainly not strangers. Even casually speaking with the opposite sex in the workplace isn’t a guarantee you won’t get snubbed. Most women don’t want to talk to strange dudes. The days of casually walking up to someone in the street and talking to them is over.

>>41908773
>>41905468

>>41908780
That small, loyal fanbase will be the ones buying her bathwater in a few years.

>>41908628
Actually, that last one is slightly less stupid then it seems. Unlike female idol groups which just add girls, male idol groups normally just add sister groups which share similar branding but are different. I remember one of the Homos talking about it when Uproar debuted.

>>41908809
>>41905468

>>41908658
https://twitter.com/usadapekora/status/1281437388972019712
IIRC she started pushing for the hero of children and kids channel joke around the time of this tweet. There were others posting their kids' doodles of Pekora too at the time

>>41908658
In japan I think there are a lot of quirky girls who find the overly cute and silly vibes Hololive gives off relatable and comforting
With HoloEN i think the only girls that watch them are weirdo lesbians and """lesbians"""

>>41908603
Most people are just awkward and not downright malicious. The amount of Actual antis that would pay money and spend their time to just go and say an insult before getting thrown out is minuscule.

>>41908711
>she starts to early for EU. when I get to watch her she is already reading supas.
She starts reads supas 2 hours before she ends, at like 10PM CET. Whatever is stopping you from watching her is specific to your lifestyle.

>>41907981
Is she… phasing through the fence?

>>41908854
>>41905468

>>41908658
Pretty based actually, i'd rather have more pekoras around than the "celebrities" girls watch today

>>41908603
I'm guessing you need to disclose certain information about yourself when you sign up to this type of this.
Could easily get you blacklisted from the entire industry (or from society altogether) if you try and take advantage of it.

>>41908699
So what, because day to day interaction forces you to talk to dudes you should also be forced to stream with them in front of thousands? The fuck kinda logic is that

>>41908475
Koyo nooo, if the holo antis see this they can legit get YT to give you a strike for socially harmful thumbnail image

>>41908858
She likes children and was about to become a kindergarten teacher, I can give her a child if she just lets me cum insider of her

>>41908699
You must not live in a western society if you think men can just go up to a woman and start talking to them. This isn’t the 90s anymore.

>>41908898
>>41905468

>>41908887
Classic "show the goods" effect.

>>41908658
NOUSAGI GIRLS LOOK LIKE ***THISSSSS***!?!??!!

>>41908693
Yeah, I think Kiara is just at a point where she is not gonna change her content for anyone, and she is over trying to chase ccv. She seems to care much more about her music numbers.

>>41908960
Stop doxxing me faggot

>>41908521
That doesn't surprise me. Choco is pretty based in how much she subverts certain norms and shits on her dates and stuff.

>>41908912
Don’t question the Homobeggar mindset, they don’t actually care about the girls, or even the boys, they only want to win Le culture war

>>41908955
>>41905468

>>41908978
Hey...

>>41908960
If you notice all of them came there with some kind of fluffy white scarf (Their own Donchan)

>>41908658
I mean.
Hololive is like brotubers, but for girls.
There's probably an audience for it, however small.

>>41908699
A lot of the girls also just have a really good thing going with their community and don't want to bring any form of drama into it one way or another.

>>41908912

Maybe i should start acting more like pekora

>>41908912
>So what, because day to day interaction forces you to talk to dudes you should also be forced to stream with them in front of thousands?
The people who think they're innocent little flowers, unable to handle the pressure of interacting with a man are delusional. "And many of them joined Hololive to avoid weird dudes", that's insane. They likely have many male staff they have to interact with already.
>>41908984
Does it just hurt being so incredibly retarded? This isn't even a homobeggar thing, this is a DYRBI thing.

>>41906276
This song fucking sucks

>>41908888
her last streams started at 15 and 16... look at her fucking schedule.

>>41909074
Please stream your Rust next time, red bean.

>>41909084
>t. oboretai

>>41908658
People who like hololive are going to be people who like things like Bocchi the Rock. There are a lot of women that like that.
Also Holos like Suisei and Marine have a lot of appeal to women as well.

>>41909084
>DYRBI
Yes. I believe her

>>41908791
Oh, nice. It's a great MV and song to boot. Kinda sad it didn't do better all things considered.

>>41908998
>>41905468

>>41909084
Kys homobegger

>>41908912
The funny thing is that you aren’t even guaranteed to speak to the opposite sex in the workplace, at least not casually. Actual work related stuff? Sure, but collaborations in vtubing requires people to speak casually among hundreds or thousands of viewers. It isn’t realistic unless you’re specifically prepared for that (like joining Nijisanji where you are expected to have this mindset from the beginning).

>>41908457
Not pregnant, 2/10.

>>41908960
I checked her twitter out when this first got posted, and she seems to actually be in a small Idol group. Pretty good singer as well.

>>41909176
>>41905468

>>41909084
>do you really believe autists like Aqua exist
yes?

>>41909129
I don't know who that is.
>>41909178
I can just imagine, IMAGINE this fat homosexual going about his life, buying twinkies by the pack-full before remembering his oshi is interacting with a MAN and has interacted with MEN before shitting himself, rolling around on the ground, and shoveling them into his face in one swift motion.

>>41909084
I don't care how "good" you are at dealing with men, don't do it on stream. No one has ever inclined from it and you're more at risk of blowing everything up.
It's like walking through a minefield, sure you can be smart about it, but why walk through the goddamn minefield in the first place?
Especially since there's absolutely nothing on the other side.

>>41909084
There is a difference between speaking to people professionally in a work setting and speaking to people casually, like you would in a vtuber collab.

>>41909084
Touch a nerve? I didn’t even reply to you

>>41909084
>t. Axel.
Less shitposting more streaming. 3view and vagabond... Holostars are indeed a cursed branch.

>>41909122
>starts at 4pm
>reads superchats from 10pm on
>somehow euro can't find any time to watch in that 6 (six) hour window

>>41908699
The recent Phase girl's yab will give you a decent idea about the power that dudes have in relationships where the girl is naive.
We suspect that they're fucking because of the past tweets n shit, but I've seen that type of chat in old anime-community "online relationships" quite a lot. Girls crush on boys, boys crush on girls, some of it works out, most of it doesn't... the times have changed, but some things remain the same.

And for 90% of girls who aren't involved in modern feminism, a "pushy guy" is not something that they can easily handle. Women naturally tend to avoid conflict when possible, so they would rather do what the dude says than "cause a problem" on stream or with her friends or social circle or whatever else.
This is also why rape mostly happens from people women are close to, and why most of those were never reported until recently.

And because of this natural inability to handle men, a section of them would rather never interact with them at all on a personal level. i.e. as acquaintances, coworkers, friends etc.
They can still interact in professional settings, like with the guy at the cash register, or the guy who helps you set up your 3D gear n shit, but generally they don't really have much power over you socially since you aren't in the same circles, and hence there are usually no issues from them.

Trying to equate male staff to the mentally unstable groomers that are male vtubers is certainly something

>>41909122
When the fuck do you get off work?

>>41907063
take me back. go back to when they sold us false unity and let me believe in blind faith its real

It’s normal for male and female to form their own group in an office so idk what this guy is going about. Absolutely assblasted Homobeggar came out of nowhere

>>41909253
Damn homobegger, you're getting a bit triggered here lmao. What the fuck is this sperg paragraph?

>>41909173
it's not as loopable as Po methinks

>>41909292
yeah i love to tune into a stream 4 hours after it started. EU prime time. thank you Kiara.

>>41907063
>5 western women living in the same house
>for 1 fucking month
Rip myth

Lol even in a Sankisei collab Pekora still get the center spot (ft.Myth)

>>41909122
>Christmas Karaoke
Is there like another place similar to the Orthodox Church that celebrated Christmas at a different date?

>>41909347
It's probably some vesperfag that has been conditioned to show up at this hour

>>41909347
Real life isn’t like The Office.

>>41909253
Take a step back and realize how fucking weird you come off right now.

>>41908735
It would probably make what caused his suspension look like child play

Holy fucking based Subaru

>leddit Pomu thread turned into such a shitshow no one discussed Pomu
>OP self deleted
>new Pomu threads dead and downvoted
>oboretai btfo and ran to his community page
you don't need to outnumber nijiniggers and homobeggers. you just need to hijack their threads into being about homobeggin/nijibegging. they don't handle someone being called out very well and massively overcorrect, making it super obvious they're an outside force

>>41909359
Just watch during dinner, like 5 - 6 PM, and on. If you work and commute after like 5:30 PM I'm genuinely sorry, but that's not on Kiara.

>>41909370
i mean myth unity can't exactly get worse. Maybe this cold be a good thing for them