/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

This is incredibly fucked up, but I don't like her accent in english. She is unironically the best entertainer, goofs-wise and bits-wise, she has great songs, and she seems to really enjoy what she does.
But that accent makes me want to byarf. So I watch other people instead.

>>41877421
Voice
Rude
MEMEME

Unironically, the chicken voice. She just needs to say she went to the doctor and the doctor told her to stop the voice, and she'd be fine.

Hard work doesn’t always translate to success, especially when such is measured by popularity.

>>41877421
>what is she doing wrong?
One factor out of many is Yuro hours, yurfags don't watch streams, and no I don't want to hear any cope from those lazy fucks that they watch JP or a 2view indie from Bulgaria.
Niggers you don't watch streams, that's it, end of story. SEAnigs get all the hate, as they should, but at least they show up at 3 AM in their jungle shack to watch Kiara.

Forgot
>a bridger of unity between corporations
>cares about the company's vision more than anyone else in Hololive
>looks out after us and sympathizes with our plight
Kiara is literally perfect bros... If not for Pomu, she'd be my kamioshi.

>>41877421
Yeah. Hard work is really good. But some people get it for free. Life is not fair.
Hard work still pays off.

>>41877764
Sadly that is true though the Euro hours are a debuff.

>>41877900
what about the times that Gura streamed during Euro hours and got even more viewers than normal?
how does that work?

Your oshi is shit just deal with it

>>41877900
>yurfags don't watch streams
Give me streams in accessible hours and I will. JPs stream in the middle of my work hours, NAs stream when I'm sleeping. No need to be salty, burgerbro.

>>41877421
She just needs to use her real normal voice.

>>41877585
>not liking cute austrian accent
be quicker and just say you're gay

I am a full homo supporter and I have to agree, Kiara streams more in a week than Gura does in a year, is more charismatic than Ina, miles better singer than Calli, and her memes don't feel as forced as Ame.
Not even and Idol shitter but it does suck that all her hard work isn't paying off as much as the other lazy girls.

>>41877421
i love wawa but shes the rock lee of vtubing

>>41877764
You are right that is how show business works

>>41877421
I firmly believe that, had she not used that fake ass voice, she would have been the second most popular EN. With a slight but real possibility of overtaking even the shark.
It's too late now, though. She's chose her path.

By how much /vt/ shits on the anti unicorn chuubas you'd expect them to make Kiara their Queen since she's the one who panders the most to them but I guess the 10 Schizos that run this board don't actually watch streams.

>>41878957
>Muh fake voice
Meanwhile most of you have no problem watching Fauna or Pekora...

>>41877421
>bein this new
you realize she has a bug on her channel right?
it doesn't actually shows her real sucriber/viewer number.
This was confirmed by her and cover, she is closer to the shart than M*ri and Mehrin (she might have even surpass her by now)
so next time do your rreps before you make a fool of yourself newfag

>>41879077
I agree. A lot of people are hypocrites myself included.
I will say, comparing Fauna's fake voice to Pekora and Kiara's is a bit disingenuous. She, and most other holos, at least make the effort to make their fake voices sound pleasing.

- Voice (very easily fixable)
- Strange blend of extrovert stacy and mid 2000s greasy turbootaku that doesnt appeal to the current otaku/"""weeb""" community (Pomu understands this)
- Fan of hard debuff games with 20+ episodes. People dont really care about JRPGS. When people miss one or two streams they tend to drop the series instead of skipping 6+ hours of plot. People dont want to catch up if "catching up" means watching maybe 15 hours of content. This has been known since the game grumps era but I dont blame Cover or Kiara for not knowing.
If she did a once a week This Week In Kiara recap of the games shes playing maybe she could have more ccv on her jrpg games
- Streamer success is 95% luck. Some incredibly hard working streamers will never reach 3view status, xqc puts a react playlist on stream and goes eat dinner for two hours and gets 30k on a slow day. There's no correlation between stream quality and stream success.

t. Member for 2 years, 2 months, 21 days (subaru goose game offcollab where she broke subaru's trashcan, I believe)

>>41878743
With the surveys saying 61% of EU is gay and 23% are Austrian and German. I'll think about it

>>41877421
No matter how much shilling you do for her, she still gets mogged by 90% of hololive. Just accept the L, she's annoying and that alone is a huge filter

>>41879280
Meds

>>41879914
this is not a shill thread retard

>>41879280
what a cope, impressive

>>41877421
Nobody deserves anything not care if you work harder that doesn't mean the world/people they owe you something, that is the true mostly all success is for luck and bc u never stop trying

>>41879983
>>41880081
>discord eggs brigading a Kiara thread
I pity you

>>41877421
>what is she doing wrong?
She's not getting carried by a cunny avatar so she actually has to do her job

>>41880172
Either reply with proof of this incredibly retarded claim or fuck off

>>41877421
Of course the one stream a month will attract more people because it’s such a rarity. Did you think Gura’s return stream would have less viewers than a Kiara zatsu?
Same with any streamer. If you stream every day you’ll have less viewers per stream than once a month, if you’re already known.
What matters is the amount of individual viewers over an equalized timeframe. Like a month or week

>>41877585
Ngmi faggot

what's going on here

>>41880532
some retard got banned so they made another shitpost

>>41879652
Lmao what survey? On Christopher street day?

>>41877900
Nah, we watch streams, just not Kiara's.
All the leaks before she even debuted showed what she really is. And then on top of that you got the chicken voice, obnoxious forced yuri baiting with Mori in the early days, and then her becoming Bandai's ambassador and spamming boring ass JRPG's that most Euros don't really like that much. And she forced her way through most of those games anyways. It was not fun to watch at all. She lifted herself up ONLY because of her work ethic when everyone else almost stopped streaming.

Kiara must have big old hug.
Only fool not understand how hard Kiara work.
Deserve so much more Kiara. Dedication and diligence.
Disclaim Kiara is not favorite, still wish very good things happen with her.
Poster in thread say very smart things I agree.

>>41880283
NTA but he is right
how about you do your rreps and stop waiting to be spoonfed egg?

>>41878877
Can you give me this comparison using a less zoomer anime series? Thanks

>>41880957
>We watch streams
No you don't...

>>41881230
Now you're just bending reality.
It's not our fault that most of the chuubas don't stream when we're free.

Kiara is a tragic character, she's puts in the most effort, always gives 100% since debut and she has this deep genuine love for idol shit. With that and her tragic backstory you get the feeling she's actually the one who deserves to be in the spotlight the most, but that would be too easy. Hard work translating into success isn't a compelling story. What IS a compelling story however is Kiara as the underdog, most hated, least successful but trying the hardest. You root for her despite all odds, so every time something actually does go well for her, it feels way more impactful.
You could argue the same for Gura, least effort but by faaar the most successful partly due to factors outside of anyone's power, liek her unique and pleasant voice. You end up with compelling character arcs about imposter-syndrome, depression, people wanting to find some sort of skeleton in the perfect anime girl's closet etc.
It's what makes Hololive so interesting and what has them occupy the brain of 90% of this board at all times.

>>41881170
sure shes the ドラゴンのシリュウ of hololive
you know, theres seiya (gura) who just goes around and beats anything and everyone with her guwwa cute seiken, ina who is phoenix (shows up whenever, does her thing, dissapears), ame cygnus and i guess mori is andromeda
point is while everyone else has a grand time and sorta half asses things, dragon has several heart attacks, has to gouge his eyes out at one point, looks up to her older gen senpais who she cant reach and who occasionally give her birthday advice while styling on her (pekora of libra), etc
this works very well damn
anyway long story short wawa is the tragic character that pays with her soul to keep things going

>>41877585
This man speaks the truth
The other faggots are in denial

Work smarter, not harder.
Chickenfags BTFO. Long live the queen.

>>41881426
>her tragic backstory
????
I know very little Kiara. What have happened?
Please tell without dox.

>>41877911
>sympathizes with our plight
what plight
corny ass mf

>>41877421
>All of these noble intentions ruined by the simple fact that she's annoying, self serving, and ME ME ME
When will KFCucks come to terms?

if she's such a hard worker why doesn't she work on making her voice not intolerable to listen to? that'd be a start.

>>41877421
Active hours, ability, personality.

>>41877585
I get labeled eggschizo a lot but I never mean harm to Kiara when I say I just can't listen to her voice. I'll never give myself a chance to go through her actual filters, which is uer attitude

>>41878457
It's Gura yoú fucking faggot, she doesn't compare to Kiara. Use kaela instead

>>41881477
Poetic, i respect you

>>41877421
she's stuck in a shit timeslot

>>41879077
Nigga, atleast Fauna's fake voice is soothing and pleasant to listen to. Pekora has her own charm and playful charisma while Kiara's the distorted version.

W

>>41877421
>Still get mogged by the once a month stream of the lazy shark
>measuring success by viewership numbers
Kek. Kiara mogs most of EN in superchats. Some months she mogs all of them. She also just dropped fucking thousands of dollars in Japan. She's probably among the top 5 most financially successful members of EN. And she has the kind of tight knit and loving community that most vtubers would kill for. Not a giant unmanageable cacophony of retards. She's winning on so many levels it's ridiculous. Mogged? I laugh at you.

>>41882232
>Euro hours are shit and the only reason for low numbers
>Its Gura thats why she gets a boost in Euro hours
????

>>41883091
so much this, this is why even JP and most Vtubers outside of Hololives considers her the face of EN

>>41877421
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
Surrounding herself with fans like you but considering she herself is self serving she deserves you, Gura and the chumbuds as annoying they are NEVER do this shit, only KFP prop Kiara above everything only Kiara herself complains about not being treated fair.

>>41883719
whatever egg, take your meds

jesus christ this retarded shit is still up?

>>41883091
>Top 5 in an EN with ten chuubas, half of which have been around for half as long as her.
Anon...

>>41883795
This is exactly the kind of cognitive dissonance I expect from KFP, You make a thread do nothing but fellating chicken not at all admiting she has problems have the gall to ask what are said problems (You fucking know but won't admit) and then call anything egg because the one epic time Kiara and chat took down a real anti.

This is why you and your girl are bottom shit in MYTH and if Hope Council ever find their grove probably all of EN. Try being more critical of Kiara "Kiara we love your voice but could you bring it down a few pitches when streaming" "Kiara we love your story about "x" but could you mention "x" a bit more", When one of you own say aborrent shit like "Lazy shark" you remind them "No KFP brother Gura is in Japan RIGHT NOW rehearsing for Holofes our goddess confrims she met up with her in their free time", But you won't because you and your oshi are monsters destroying HoloEN from within and outside.

>>41877421
>what is she doing wrong?
chicken voice thats it

>>41884236
not that guy but holy shit get a job or something my (biological)dude

>>41884420
Why are you guys falseflagging as KFP?

>>41884757
stop falseflagging as KFP you schizo

>>41884236
ban evading again, loserschizo?
didn't you get btfo in the other thread 4 hours ago?

Sanest KFP schizo…

>>41883518
Wanted to be an idol, went to Japan completely alone at a very young age, went okayish and then not so okayish, then very very bad, some really shady shit happening, and then she got depressed and then covid hit and her one year once-in-a-lifetime visa was worthless because covid and then more depression but then hololive :)

>>41884236
look at this eggschizo, malding this hard for Kiara
>no admiting she has problems
because she doesn't? look at the things OP listed, and tell me what your Oshi does better
protip: you can't
Kiara its better and you KNOW that but you can't admit it ;)
go back to discord and take your meds and please, remember to dilate
Im sorry you will never be a real woman

>>41877421
>annoying voice
>annoying personality
>constantly tries to make EVERYTHING about her
>becomes a fucking whiny mess if it isn't about her
>ruined most of the early Myth collabs through this

>>41884236
Egg pls

>>41885900
>constantly tries to make EVERYTHING about her
Actually Kiara never tries to make everything about her. Eggs try to make everything about her though. Pretty ironic, huh?

>>41885900
Baffling list. The first two items are subjective and the last three are false.

>>41877421
She's a tryhard, squawking, and annoying character. She's not even cute.

Reasons to anti Kiara
>unironically, she is a whore
>unironically, she is a griefer
>she got blacklisted from the industry for good reason
>she got fired by her old company for good reason
>she's an unethical woman who doesn't hesitate to slander someone that blocks her way
>her old idol group never came to flourish, all thanks to this "i burn everything i touch" whore
>she's a menhera woman with mental illnesses
>kiara is known to be a two-faced woman
>she's burnt Myth and Councilrys to the ground
>orcschizo exists because of her
>she is a number-obsessed bitch and this affects gura the most
>gura helped kiara with her ai kotoba Ⅲ cover and the advent calendar project but kiara wasn't willing to do the same for gura's 3D birthday party
>she was so jealous of gura's Cover-produced 3d live that she didn't invite gura to her bd totsu creating a massive Myth shitshow
>after all these years she's still the same evil person, see how she manipulated people into them hating on kronii
>she treats jenma like a slave
>she is a nijinigger
>she is a narcissistic bitch that will never be satisfied
>she is a loose-tongued, attention-seeking bitch
>she has a bias against men despite choosing this job
>she's a manipulative, calculating psychopath
>she won't stop with her vendetta even if she's separated from hololive
>gura herself said she hates that narcissistic part of kiara
>KFP are the most insufferable fanbase given that they hold a grudge against other EN girls without considering the simple fact that where there's smoke there's fire
>you will never know if she deliberately doxxed the jp girls or not
>nobody deserves that many chances

this will always hold true, stop being a contrarian nigger and take the red pill

>>41878743
She doesn't fucking use her austrian accent which actually is pretty nice, she talks like a retard and it put everyone off so she never gained a following.

>>41886687
>she's a menhera woman with mental illnesses
But Anon that's you

Shit voice. Her natural voice is nice, but she uses the shit voice that drives away most people.

>>41887004
>she never gained a following
KFP exists.

>>41885900
>ruined most of the early Myth collabs through this
Im pretty sure the only reason those collabs weren't a cringefest was thanks to Kiwawa

Flare's feet are pretty cool

>>41887645
Kiara is pretty much the only reasons the early collabs happened at all. Mori, Ina, Gura, and Ame are so antisocial she had to constantly tardwrangle them in to doing it.

>>41886687
do you really expect anyone to read all that shit?
take your meds eggschizo, and please stop samefagging
Mods, do your job and get rid of this anti, thanks

>>41877421
>chicken voice
>MEMEMEMEME
>numberfag
>Extrovert trying to be an Introvert just because it's cool with the kids nowadays
>average Twitter user personality

>Her voice is annoying
>She copied Pekora for a bit and it was really weird
>Shes a tiny bit obnoxious
>Throws her genmates under the buss for a crumb of relevance

This is why I dont watch her but I will say that she does put the work in and I would never deny that, she actualy wants to be famous and will do anything to get it from the underhanded and weird to the actual heavy lifting

>>41877421
>manager working good
>her company working good
>good at communicating with snake pit
>something something numbers

>>41877421
It's because she banged a black guy. Toll paid.

Actually, literally, unironically it's the voice
I love everything about her, but I physically can't watch her for long

>>41887968
>MEMEMEMEME
MEMEME is nothing but eggcord gaslighting. It's never been true.
>numberfag
She fully understands that games like Fire Emblem will do low numbers but she streams them anyway. Kiara is confirmed not a numberfag.
>Extrovert trying to be an Introvert
95% of her time is spend alone in her apartment.
>average Twitter user personality
I'd like to see you explain what that means kek

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>>41888314
Look at this eggschizo samefagging this hard
go back and take your meds, you are embarassing yourself

>>41888198
>Throws her genmates under the buss for a crumb of relevance
Name one instance of that happening

>>41877421
I am throwing a huge party the day this bitch finally graduates. Gura is better in every way. The numbers don't lie.

>>41888519
You can't just accuse everyone who disagrees with you of samefagging you fucking schizo. Get help

>>41877421
Always relevant Pasta incoming:

okay lets work backwards. and im not gonna just refer to times she LITERALLY talks about numbers, but times where she shows that she thinks she is most deserving of "the spotlight"

rather than celebrate hinotori reaching 3 mil, she randomly posts it at 2.9mil to try and pump it up to 3. https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1440029878976270340?s=20 sure this alone is very minor but it comes with a history.

just before that she was griping and complaining about umisea, barely a single word congratulating them but like 5 minutes about how holobirds should get the same treatment, meanwhile more than half of hololive doesn't get this treatment. again not recognizing that others who worked harder and longer don't get support either, but somehow thinking she deserves it, when we all know the reason why umisea is a thing is because Cover wants to market as much stuff as they can with gura and aqua is another very popular talent for marketability (look at how many cross promotions she gets) marine and ina mostly fall in to the theme but also round out the sound and both are good conversationalists so they keep communication good. mostly it's about the marketability of two of the most popular talents. not about it being "international" or anything like that. rather than recognize the gap in marketability. rather than be excited for her friends gura, ina, and marine. instead all she has to say about it is she wants what they got.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0xxtf0hgek [Embed]

1 year anniversary stream, besides constantly bursting out over gura's song: there's an often overlooked moment when they go on the stage to do SSS at the end. everyone else lines up to the sides, because they know ame is the "center" she always has been since before debut. meanwhile kiara bee-lines straight for the center mic, you don't hear ame say it, but you hear kiara's response when shes asked to move off to another spot. setting aside that ame has been classified as the center, and she put in all the work and money to set up the collab: she is holding the camera and CLEARLY needs to stand in the middle to get the good angle.
https://youtu.be/bZghtnL3y3k?t=4630 [Embed]

she whined about the managers making council "more powerful" as if anyone freaking cares, goes on a minute long rant about it, when it's clear none of the others REALLY care. kinda bashing her kouhai's characters before they even get started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXBo3H9JFHg [Embed]

When she dropped sparks she was obviously trying to prove something to cover or her manager, I can't find a clip of it, and I don't remember what stream it was, but she made a big deal of how "please stream it a lot, it's important". idk if she wanted to do a live or what, but its obvious she wanted some kinda deal or something and needed to prove she had enough "pull". whatever it was she was really stressing that she needed a lot of views/plays on this one. again not seeming to be focused on making good content, or relying on natural growth, but instead basically begging fans to pump up her numbers. after months of "stream heart challenger".

before that it was knocking Ina for getting 1 mil first, before that it was complaining about how stuff was getting lower views after she moved back to austria, before that it was getting broken up about finally passing ina, before that it was being upset about "being the last to 500k" (meanwhile towa and aki were like sub 300k)

again, she's getting BETTER but she still has problems she needs to address before i'm gonna consider her "over it"

>>41888712
>I am throwing a huge party the day this bitch finally graduates

>>41888739
All of this still pales in comparison to what Ina and Ame did to her fans. Not to even mention the fucking dumpster fire career that Calli has had since the Connor arc

>>41888739
>eggs so broken and defeated they're resorting to walls of pasta
You hate to see it

>>41888873
There is no need to be upset. I will send you an invite.

>>41888484
You're wrong because you just are ok!?
>>41888519
AIEEEEEE everyone I disagree with is a samefag!
>>41888739
Based actual streamwatcher. Numberfag whining about being the runt in Myth when a good chunk of the JPs, who are the reason EN exists in the first place, were doing even worse than her.

>>41889226
Kek. If Kiara is a numberfag then tell me why she knowingly streams games that do low numbers.

>>41877421
>bad voice
>not funny
>a bitch
hard work doesn't save her

why is there no vtuber with this body type?

>>41890304
Because it's gross?

>>41889475
She would rather whine about being the least popular in Myth instead of being happy more people care about her than a decent amount of the JP senpais who are the reason she has this job.
>b-but JRPG numbers bad
Too little too late she has already proven multiple times she's a numberfag

>>41889475
Numberfagging is a weird label to put on Kiara because while she did cry about being last in subs back in the early days of myth, and I'm pretty sure that she bugged the management for that Pekora collab just to boost her numbers up, on the other hand she openly said plenty of times that she wants to play X and doesnt care who is gonna watch it because she really loves those games.

>>41890655
fuck off kfp schizo

>>41877421
weird default design and the voice, facial expressions that are annoying to look at, the me me me thing.
but honestly I don't hate Kiara as much as back then, for 2 years I refused to hit the subscribe button for her, but I guess I'm starting to kinda appreciate her more now.
I agree that Gura doesn't really deserve her success though.

>>41877421
I respect the worth ethic. I respect her for being the only one in Myth who seems to still care about their fans. I respect her for being the only one in Myth who cares about idols, real idols not just the fake "AIEEEEEEEE she talked to a man? I'm going INSANEEEEEEEE" EOP idolfags. But in the end I will always be filtered by her annoying voice, personality, and numberfagging.

>>41877585
Her voice when she speaks japanese is pure sex. I don't even watch her but when she was in japan she collabed with some JPs I watch and holy shit her voice is sex. The way she talks japanese is pretty soothing to the ear too.
Her english voice (beyond the accent itself) can't be compared to that.

>>41878457
>>41883518
jwu as I said it's just
>One main factor out of many
But Gura was still a terrible comparison because she had already gathered all the burgers, nips, and SEA and even a chunk of Ñ. A Yuro stream once in a blue moon would draw that chunk of her viewers plus whatever she'd been leaving out of the sideline in that slot.
Kiara on the other hand, even back in debut days in Japan, almost half of her streams were literally Yuro hours competing with Watame's slot, so when she transitioned to full Yuro after moving back to Austria, she basically bled herself out of a lot of viewership, there was the whole month of shadowban too but that was just a little cherry on top.
>>41880957
>Nah, we watch streams, just not Kiara's.
Who is this >we you're on about, it is a solid fact that Yurofags take up the smallest percentage in CCV, no matter if it's EN or JP.
Now I can not put the entire blame on all Yurofags being lazy fucks, because you are correct, most of Europe just don't care for those JRPG streams, even some Yuro regulars fuck off when it's a JRPG they can't give a damn about. How she was bruteforcing through those streams also put some of them off and they would never visit those JRPG streams again.

tl;dr Like I said, Yuro hours is just one of many factors, but it's still a big one.

When's the shart graduating?

>>41877421
Her voice is grating

>>41892751
Yuros are turbo normalfags. That's it.
It's not about the time or the streamer. People here are just massive normalfags. The most otaku shit you find here is someone who watched naruto and SnK.
Even the people going to local anime events are normalfags.
Americans and even south americans are way, way more otaku than yuros and it's not even reasonable to make the comparison.

Reasons to anti Kiara
>unironically, she is a whore
>unironically, she is a griefer
>she got blacklisted from the industry for good reason
>she got fired by her old company for good reason
>she's an unethical woman who doesn't hesitate to slander someone that blocks her way
>her old idol group never came to flourish, all thanks to this "i burn everything i touch" whore
>she's a menhera woman with mental illnesses
>kiara is known to be a two-faced woman
>she's burnt Myth and Councilrys to the ground
>orcschizo (mumei) exists because of her
>she is a number-obsessed bitch and this affects gura the most
>gura helped kiara with her ai kotoba Ⅲ cover and the advent calendar project but kiara wasn't willing to do the same for gura's 3D birthday party
>she was so jealous of gura's Cover-produced 3d live that she didn't invite gura to her bd totsu creating a massive Myth shitshow
>after all these years she's still the same evil person, see how she manipulated people into them hating on kronii
>she treats jenma like a slave
>she is a nijinigger
>she is a narcissistic bitch that will never be satisfied
>she is a loose-tongued, attention-seeking bitch
>she has a bias against men despite choosing this job
>she's a manipulative, calculating psychopath
>she won't stop with her vendetta even if she's separated from hololive
>gura herself said she hates that narcissistic part of kiara
>KFP are the most insufferable fanbase given that they hold a grudge against other EN girls without considering the simple fact that where there's smoke there's fire
>you will never know if she deliberately doxxed the jp girls or not
>nobody deserves that many chances

this will always hold true, stop being a contrarian nigger and take the red pill

>>41877421
Kiara go fuck yourself and stop posting this cringe

>>41880059
I dunno, there's always a non-zero chance she posted this herself. There's occasional anti-threads that, if read in an Austrian accent, seem suspiciously like someone fishing for compliments from KFP/looking for audience feedback.

>>41877900
I WAKE UP AT 3:30 IN THE FUCKING MORNING TO BE SURE TO CATCH MY OSHI YOU FAGGOT.
I also have an alarm for Kiara streams just so that I can be absolutely sure that I don't watch them.

>>41892942
there's surely some rhythm game nerds?

>>41893378
Nigger if only she can wake up at or stay up to 8:30 AM like when this thread was made, we could have avoided a lot and I do mean a lot of retarded threads over the last 2 years

>>41893378

>>41893460
I am sure that if it is to fulfill her insufferable crave for compliments and praises she'd be able to stay awake for a week

>>41877585
It really is that simple. I desperately want to like her, but her English voice (oddly the German voice is so nice that I'd watch her as a German streamer) is too grating for my ears (I can't watch Bae for this reason as well.)

Also, she curses too much for my liking.

>>41893542
>>41893725

>>41879280
>>41881073
>rreps

>>41893845
You first, maybe take Kiara with you as well, it would finally make her channel grow a bit

>>41893999

>>41888519
you're the schizo for wasting your time like this

>>41886687
>you will never know if she deliberately doxxed the jp girls or not
context?

>>41893999
checked and there's even a chance that that's her you're responding to

>>41893189
>>she has a bias against men despite choosing this job
stop that is all I needed to hear. I love her

>>41877421
Personally I'm not really into her "chicken voice", especially the laugh she often does that sounds like ack-ack-ack.
She definitely does have a bit of a "me" problem, it's not just a meme, seen it shine through more than once in the past.
That aside I didn't enjoy her trying to make a vei collab happen nor do I welcome her trying to connect more to nijiEN.

She's not a bad holo though, she's good, just not quite one of my favorites for those reasons. I definitely respect the effort she puts in and how consistently she streams.

>>41877421
Voice, sorry. Tried really hard to like all of Myth back in the day, she's the second one to go.
First was Gura btw, never got the appeal.

>>41877421
Kiara is fucking trash, also she has the most punchable face I've ever seen in a Vtuber

>>41877585
It's not so much the accent for me as it is the fucking voice. It's torture knowing her real voice and hearing her use that shrill chicken voice instead. Also her songs works be so, so, SO much better with her natural voice. They're actually pretty catchy but the voice just fucking ruins them for me.

>>41894794
>nor do I welcome her trying to connect more to nijiEN.
I was gonna agree with you on most points until you outed yourself as a tribalfag shitlord

>>41881587
Failed Idol and possibly prostitution

Her voice, the emotional tangents at times, the gimmick of being a chicken restaurant owner. So much filters me, I try to accept her but I just can't

>>41877421
>streams for long hours
Shit voice
>5 original songs
All ruined because shit voice
>12 covers
Shit voice
>can dance and sing
With a shit voice

It's been literally 3 years and she's still making SEAfriends seethe, what is this fucking power?

>>41893424
At most you can find PC master race guys and console war fags. Anime related you barely find people outside of the most surface layer of weebness (seasonal anime) and even these are very, very hard to find. Most people are just turbo normalfags who love to sunbathe, go climbing, go to the beach, travel and drink at bars.
These countries have a "stay outside as much as you possibly can and only use your home as a sleep shack" mentality and to be a weeb (an actual weeb and not an anime watcher) you need to be a shut-in introverted to some degree.
Even in jobs where introvertion is common people are extroverted normalfags.

>>41877585
You have awful taste, the (latin american) hispanic and south asian accents are disgusting, european ones are sexy.

>>41877421
DROP THE CHICKEN VOICEEEEEEEEEEE

>>41888727
So predictable, you are not fooling anyone with your shitty attrmpt at gaslighting, schizo

>>41877421
Kiara had every opportunity to fix her mic settings or soften her piercing voice, but she's too stubborn. She made her choice

>>41890574
>Doubling down after being called out on his delusional seething
RUMAO, why are you Kiaraschizos always doing this? Do you enjoy being a laughingstock?

>>41892942
dunno about the othets, but my country had weebs before the phenomenon exploded in america, even our baby boomers grew up with anime

>>41895906
>Change her mic setting
Nah, You should change being a seething schizo, or do the world a favor by cracking your neck on rope

>>41888873
Ah, I forgot about Nerd Party, good times.

>>41892942
>France had Manga and Anime subculture, even before you mutts even watched Toonami, and more niche manga is translated to French than to English
>Italy knew about series like Lupin and Mazinger Z, while you were still only watching whatever Toonami fed you
In fact Mutts are the normalfags that you accuse the EUROS, since you are the majority of Narutards and SNK fanboys

>>41896387
I was wondering why this old magical girl manga had a French translation back in the day. Interesting to know.

She is just annoying, have a horrible voice and can't sing for shit.

She have been working on her annoying personality, but the other things can't be helped

>She is just annoying, have a horrible voice and can't sing for shit.

>She have been working on her annoying personality, but the other things can't be helped

>>41896513
>Cannot sing for shit
Well that did not stop anyone from watching a karaoke with Fauna (who is far worse) in it, so not really a valid point when it comes to why EN viewers are not watching Kiara

Also, am I supposed to be mad that you find her annoying? Even though it is based that she makes you seethe, since you are a pathetic obnoxious loser

>>41895988
Watching seasonal anime doesn't make you a weeb. My parents also watched a lot of anime in their childhood and they neither were not are weebs.
Anime is pretty normalfag nowadays.

>>41896387
yuros are extremely butthurt when they are told the truth too. I'd suppose you would have thicker skin given you disgusting beasts won't take a shower or wear clean clothes even if your life depended on it.
You are normalfags and everyone knows it. It's not even criticism. It's like saying south america is a fucking drug cartel or that americans love to shoot schools.

Imagine needing to make your own seethe threads lmao

>>41890304
zero ass, disgusting

>>41877421
Maybe somewhere deep down in my brain I enjoy the emotional rollercoaster that is being a chumbie. Maybe I like the neglect and lovebomb cycle. Maybe the low lows only make the highs higher. Maybe I like that Gura holds back most of her life and only gives me peeks and glimpses into it. Maybe Gura's personality and design is just cuter.

>>41888519

>>41897105
>Normalfags do not take showers
WTF?

>>41897370
look at this fucking retard

>>41893482
>>41893845
>>41894045
Kiara these jokes aren't funny

41894454
Here is an actual check, you are a delusional retard

>>41897430
>hurr everyone who says Kiara sucks is SAMEFAGGING
>proven wrong
>HURR LOOK AT THIS FUCKING RETARD

And KFP wonder why everyone thinks they're the dumbest fans in all of Hololive

>>41897761
>Somehow fucked up the formatting 4chan automatically makes for you
>Calls other retarded
kek

>>41897469
Okay here is a (you), since you did not get one when you posted this delusion the first time here >>41894454
Kys retard

>>41897777
you have to be severely retarded to fall for such obvious bait to the point you even thought you had to take a screenshot to "prove" something that was immediately obvious for anyone with a brain. and your obsession with gay internet wars against a vtuber fanbase and persecution complex are further proof you're mentally ill.

>>41897907
kek that's a different Anon
I am the one he's replying to

>>41897777
>There is not only one delusional seething retard, there are multiple delusional seething retards
KEK, you really showed KFP

>>41889006
can you give examples and source of your claims like that anon did?

>>41890where is this from?

>>41897961
>Posts the same kind of delusional seething
Does not matter, if you are two different people, since you are a hivemind of seething delusion

>>41898248
The goalpost is moving so fast I can't even catch up to it

>>41898339
Are you sure about that, since you Kiaraschizos move the goalposts a lot?

>>41877421
KFP are unhinged

>>41898440
Yeah I am pretty sure

>>41877421
Work smart not hard. Gura work smart even though she's a bit of a tard

>>41898458
>KFP made this post
DYRBI? Since it looks like pretty obvious falseflagging, but you can already know that, but you are just desperate to bump this thread for some reason, or am I incorrect in assuming that you are not a retard?

>>41898577
neither of them work smart. stop repeating that moron.

>>41898645
Bump

>>41897391
normal yuros don't take showers and don't wash their clothes, anon. Specifically if you ever go to france you will realize people there smell as bad as well dressed they are.
yuros also don't use AC and don't wear deodorant so you can imagine how insane summer is for your nostrils. Winter should be better but they don't wash their coats and the bad armpit smell goes full dry-age effect, which then blends with the current armpit bad odor which is aggravated by the fact they wear heavy coats even when heaters are on at like 50 degrees.
Covid was legit a blessing since at least with the mask I was saved from the smell.

>>41898728
Hi I am the anon you responded to, I take showers and wash my clothes, and I am a yuro, so stop giving me your wall of bullshit, also not all yuros are like the French, fucking mutt

>>41898577
You still have to work to work smart

>>41899184
Just because you're a minority within yuros doesn't mean this whole continent isn't packed with people who don't take showers.
I'm glad you take showers like a regular human being though. Hopefully more people like you spread around and the subhumanity of not taking showers disappears.

>>41899184
take a bath stinky

>>41899312
>t. Chumbie that loves the stinky shark

>>41898705
Only having to work every once in a while is smart af, shut up kiddy fiddler

>>41899390
>A Chumbud calling anyone else a kiddie fiddler
Ironic...

>>41890304
sauce on this one?

>>41899305
The French are a minority in France but somehow they are your chosen example of an average Yuro?

>>41899626
I've been to over 12 yuro countries. They all stink. The more to the north you go the worse it gets but the ones in the south stink decently enough.
It wasn't about picking one over the others but I do remember France was the one where the smell melted my nostrils the most.

Continued attempts to push Takamori unironically killed her momentum early on.

>>41877585
funny but true.

she could totally lower her voice and go full sex-mode by leaning into her german accent or how she speaks japanese

but she wont.

>>41879423
>Voice (very easily fixable)
then why doesnt she fix it?

trust me - she dont wanna. she has only mildly improved her voice in 2 years, and it was forced via throat cancer and blood spitting

>>41893236
>>41893378
IM NOT KIARA YOU LITTLE SHIT! YOU KNOW HOW STUPID THAT WOULD BE?

>>41897370
it took you way too long to photoshop all those (you)s out huh?

>>41898645
>KFP act like retards and shit on every fanbase they can
>also KFP: tha'ts not us uwu
every fucking time

>>41900634
what else do the voices tell you?

>>41900739
that your mother its a whore and she will die a horrible death if you don't reply to this post in the next 60 seconds

>>41900098
Never understood this argument either. Suisei changed her voice and it was fine why can't Kiara just drop it as well?

>>41877900
I used to get up at 4 AM to watch before heading out to work at 6. Then I continued watching any holo online at the time during lunch break or after work.

>>41895349
There isn't a single good girl among them, literally all of them collab with men, sorry

>>41877421
kiara is the shame of the unicorns and idolfags. her being at the bottom completely negates their narratives.

>>41900897
Her rm has that voice now. It's impossible for her to drop it. It's terminal. I blame the Japanese who convinced her cute high pitched voice is better when those fucks flock to people like Mori and Kronii with their deep voices.

>streams rarely for irregular amounts of time
>is not active on twitter
>doesn't keep anyone updated
>doesn't read superchats so doesn't remember anyone's name
>released 1 original song
>released 1 solo cover
>Can sing, can't dance
>Cares about promoting her Hololive merch
>No innovation, no trying new things
>Has arranged like 3 collabs
>Worst japanese in EN
>Reddit's favorite
>Mogged by all of the top HoloJPs

>>41888712
>the numbers don't lie
spotted the marvel fan

>>41890304
I understand people liking flat chests but I can't understand people liking flat asses.

>>41900897
even Gura dropped the cutesy voice now for a more natural tone

>>41893401
based af

>>41877421
It's her attitude. She becomes cunty when she goes full retard and sucks at gaming, often blaming the game which is really not good optics when often people find her stream or tune in because she's playing a game they are interested in.

>>41888484
>MEMEME is nothing but eggcord gaslighting. It's never been true.
>STREAM SPARKS
>the second debut stream
>the “imposter syndrome” arc
>trying to “share” milestones with much older JP chuubas
You can like your oshi while admitting she was a self-important tryhard for a long time, anon. No chuuba is perfect.

>>41877421
ok

>>41877421
>The holoJP favorite
Come on now anon we know that’s not true. Japs love the cute shark noises more than any other En.

>>41877911
>Niji collab beggar
But that’s a bad thing, in fact it’s one of the things people hate about her because she was doing it while being completely distant to other En girls. The “grass is greener on the other side” kind of mentality.

>>41904943
>thank you Quib

>>41908761
all of that was nothing but /vt/ dramasisters trying to stir shit up and overreacting like they always do.

ctrl + f voice: 55 results

>>41877421
>>streams daily for long hours
>>its active on tweeter
Both of these mean you have to commit fully as a fan to keep up, or the FOTM and sunk cost fallacy is gonna creep in and make it easy to give up if you miss too much. Also, hours are not much of a buff if they are tangents about some white normiegirl netflix show or JRPG #2423
>>cares about her fans, she even remembers some of their names
Creates an inner circle that intimidates the middle circles

>>41877421
KFP drives people away

>>41899752
>i met a person once, let me tell you how all humans are like
Peak mental condition

>>41877421
Here (You) go.
>The HoloJP favorite
roru rumao, kekku even
I've been watching many different JP mems for a long time, and I'm almost sure that Kiara was regularly mentioned even less frequently than motherfucking Sana.
If anything, she's proof that even if you know Jap to a pretty acceptable degree, it won't suddenly make the Japs like you a ton if you still act pretty much like a stereotypical foreigner you'd find in anime.

>>41877421
obnoxious voice and personality

>>41879423
>- Strange blend of extrovert stacy and mid 2000s greasy turbootaku that doesnt appeal to the current otaku/"""weeb""" community (Pomu understands this)
Not entirely sure what you mean by this but yes, her appeal is too niche for Gura level success. But she's still a top tier streamer in the grand scheme and what's more is she's developed a truly loyal following of people liking her for who she is.
That said I think she'll win over more people as she continues to act as a bridge to JPmem and her 3D dancing is going to impress.

>ctr+F voice
There is no reason to have this thread so often, everyone knows the answer.

>>41888739
there was also a stream where she complained about her design. like she could not decide her style. all this huke papa bs but she thinks her being the orange woman js a debuff. say what you will but she is unprofessional to say something like this.

I am new to /vt/ and I am really fascinated by this place. Within one week, I realized the catalog threads are just shitposts and people arguing for the sake of arguing. I kind of understand the reasons why the catalog shits on Mori, Gura and Kronii and those threads only have 2 digit no. of posters/replies.

Kiara's is however different. I always see a catalog bait thread on her regularly but the past 2 days, this bait thread and this one 41794198 really confused me.
The one word to describe these threads is "Passion". Both the people that hate her and the ones defending her seem to be so passionate and does not sound like shitposting at all. I still have no idea why the 'hatred' for her is so vitriolic. The most civil answer I could find was >>41888739 but none of these warrant any vitriolic hatred. The other reason is that many here think her fanbase are posting these threads when it is pretty clear these are obvious falseflags. I can tell just from the file name.
Atleast this made me intrigued to check out her history on this board and try watching some of her streams to make my own judgement to figure out why is she so relevant on this board despite having the lowest metrics in her branch.

Thread still up?
Damn

>>41912956
You are 'sane' anon. The people on the catalog threads are schizos and insane. Don't stay here for too long.
I am curious how did you discover /vt/ and which vtubers do you watch ?

Kiara is the embodiment of SEX and that makes people mad.

>>41913384
>Kiara is the embodiment of SEX
I like Kiara. But shut really isn't

>>41877421
Is this another thinly veiled orangewomanbad thread?

btw. Why are here eyes like this?

>>41913174
Yea that makes sense haha.
I know I will get ridiculed for saying this but I actually discovered /vt/ from reading the comments section in a few of Khyo's videos. I discovered 'vtubers' from Noctyx and mostly watch NijiEN but I am hesitant to reveal my oshi because I don't want him to be shitposted on.
I never watched hololive streams except for a few 3d lives that popped up in my algo and my knowledge about them are mostly from these vtuber news channels. I saw Kiara in Pomu's 3d today and I liked their interaction.

But after coming to /vt/, I got intrigued by seeing the huge number of bait threads directed at holoEN members and most of their 'crimes' are pretty common in NijiEN and I have no idea why 'holo antis' are upset over it. As content creators, these 'crimes' are common and some are even necessary in my opinion.

Anyway I searched Kiara and noticed she was streaming now (reading SCs). She seems to be genuine and is having a nice interaction with her fans currently.

Reasons to anti Kiara
>unironically, she is a whore
>unironically, she is a griefer
>she got blacklisted from the industry for good reason
>she got fired by her old company for good reason
>she's an unethical woman who doesn't hesitate to slander someone that blocks her way
>her old idol group never came to flourish, all thanks to this "i burn everything i touch" whore
>she's a menhera woman with mental illnesses
>kiara is known to be a two-faced woman
>she's burnt Myth and Councilrys to the ground
>orcschizo (mumei) exists because of her
>she is a number-obsessed bitch and this affects gura the most
>gura helped kiara with her ai kotoba Ⅲ cover and the advent calendar project but kiara wasn't willing to do the same for gura's 3D birthday party
>she was so jealous of gura's Cover-produced 3d live that she didn't invite gura to her bd totsu creating a massive Myth shitshow
>after all these years she's still the same evil person, see how she manipulated people into them hating on kronii
>she treats jenma like a slave
>she is a nijinigger
>she is a narcissistic bitch that will never be satisfied
>she is a loose-tongued, attention-seeking bitch
>she has a bias against men despite choosing this job
>she's a manipulative, calculating psychopath
>she won't stop with her vendetta even if she's separated from hololive
>gura herself said she hates that narcissistic part of kiara
>KFP are the most insufferable fanbase given that they hold a grudge against other EN girls without considering the simple fact that where there's smoke there's fire
>you will never know if she deliberately doxxed the jp girls or not
>nobody deserves that many chances

this will always hold true, stop being a contrarian nigger and take the red pill

>>41914010
*yawn*
The same old, low effort, regurgitated baitpost. Even faunaschizo is better.

Learn to not repeat the same points multiple times and give your subjective thoughts. It immediately invalidates your whole post.
Also provide timestamps/tweets and don't list out flaws that gura shares with because you are indirectly shitting on gura as well.

>>41912012
If your argument is ever “people hate this person because they’re TOO COOL,” you already lost.
No one hates the guy who quit his job as a flight attendant by deploying the emergency escape chute after swiping two bottles of liquor. If you’re cool, the most you get is stuffy corporations suing you for damages.

>>41909240
>it’s nothing because I say it’s nothing
It’s a shame reality isn’t written by KFP, or Kiara might get views.

>>41914544
>it's something because I say it's something
reality isn't the /vt/ catalog, sister

>>41913919
Yea I heard there are dedicated discord groups that focus on constantly making catalog threads for each holoEN member on a rotation basis everyday.
None of the nijiEN members or other corpo members have these dedicated anti discord groups.
They are even lazy with the subject. Just avoid threads if you see these as the subject - "Apologize", "What is her appeal", "Will you forgive her", "Come home", "X member good", "X member bad", "Why do people hate her", "Come home X fanbase", "Unicorn triforce/pentagon holos", "Leech", "Lazy", "Whore", "Cucked", "ME ME ME", "Lean", "Vegan", "Boring", "Why X hates her fans", "Takamori", "Gurame"

The current bait thread has more effort than these but the file name is a dead giveaway.

>>41877421
I mean she IS at the top.
Over 1M subs with mid 4view ccv, along with several million views on all her covers.

What more do you guys want?
Shark has 4M dead subs, at least the KFPs are a loyal dedicated fanbase.

Gura is pedobait so she would have end up on top regardless

How do these threads always get so many fucking responses? She streams at Euro hours and the majority of the EN fanbase is either SEA or NA. Also chicken voice. Not that hard.

>>41915067
because of retards just like you

>>41914407
>subjective
nah i prefer to mess around with the objective aspects of kiara that can point out how phony this whore is
this is not about jrcach, this is about what kiara does best : being a two-faced bitch on the internet

and stop being a faggot and inform the mods

>>41915474
You've been doing this for years and have accomplished nothing but wasting your own time. If anything you only managed to garner more sympathy for her. I can only wonder what goes on in your life outside the internet, if you even have one.

>>41914902
Interesting. I am bored, so let me tally the HoloEN bait threads :
>>41904389 (Baelz bait)
>>41898627 (Kronii bait)
>>41911512 (Mori bait)
>>41824342 (Gura bait)
>>41863019 (Kiara bait)
>>41903303 (Takamori bait)
>>41882655 (Fauna bait)
>>41794198 (Kiara bait)
>>41903005 (mumei/gura bait)
>>41905509 (holoEN bait)

NijiEN and Tempus bait threads :
>>41867905 (Selen Bait)
>>41892383 (Tempus Bait)'
>>41914490 (Pomu Bait but 0 replies)
>>41902640 (Flayon Bait)

>>41915602
This guy, Faunaschizo, Mumeischizo and Baeschizo actually made me feel sympathy for Kiara, Fauna, Mumei and Baelz and I also realized these four streams regularly and treats this job seriously.
Irystocrat schizos and gura schizos are smarter because they use relevant and recent stuff whereas the former uses past life/ RM stuff that makes you feel sorry for them and realize why they treat hololive seriously as a job because it is a second chance in life for them

>>41889064
Dismissing his points as “pasta” doesn’t make him wrong, KFP.

>>41898627
lol

>>41877421
Drop the voice and I will watch.

>>41916053
Lol even niji sisters think you are pathetic >>41912956

>>41916136
You also think he’s pathetic, and we’ve established that KFP are the worst fanbase here. So that doesn’t mean much.

>>41916273
I don't think KFP cares much what you think of them, or anyone really.

>>41916560
KFP have had to develop the ability to ignore facts; it's the only way they can cope supporting someone who gets mogged by tempiss.
Useful defence mechanism

>>41916273
>We've
Kek.

>>41914902
>>41915733
Very interesting information. I saw there is an Ame bait thread now.

>>41916656
I'm sure you can stop posting about KFP any time you like. You're definitely not obsessed.

>>41916721
That anon has to shitpost on Kiara or kfp here everyday; it's the only way he can cope continuing his miserable life.
Useful defence mechanism.

>>41916838
Kek

>>41916838
>>41916721

>>41916941
>He literally cannot stop
>He has to be the winner in his little internet argument
>Can't even form a proper sentence anymore
I feel bad for your parents. Maybe there's still time for your to fight back against your mental illness and avoid roping yourself, but that's looking increasingly unlikely.

>>41879423
>Streamer success is 95% luck. Some incredibly hard working streamers will never reach 3view status, xqc puts a react playlist on stream and goes eat dinner for two hours and gets 30k on a slow day. There's no correlation between stream quality and stream success
This is the big thing. Even the weakest of the Stars is more successful than 99% of streamers because of the Holo branding, but ultimately success in streaming is just luck that the algorithm deems you too big to fail.

>>41915602
it's OK when Kiara does it

>>41877421
She works hards, not necessarily smart and has too many filters
>voice and hyuk hyuk laugh
alone filters half of the world population
>she's frustratingly bad at playing video games
not that she's even bad skill wise but she's the kind of person that would tank without a shield on an mmo or something of the sort just because she feels like it and doubles down on it
>memememe personality that constantly puts other people down to bring herself up and to tell everyone she knows best
just annoying and makes people dislike her

>>41917237
Poor girl. These fuckers won't even leave her alone even as a vtuber. I have seen those shitty pics these assholes post in the numbers thread sometimes. I am glad she got a second chance through hololive.

>KFP will defend this

>>41917933
I've seen screenshots of Homos beating everyone, even Gura. Nobody cares.

>>41912956
Yeah. Same here. This girl gets shitposted here so much and more than half of the posts just say the same thing over and over. I came across her through that bannedvtmemes account. She is like the aia of holo but a dedicated few are so butthurt by her that they spam the same nonsense every day. Embarrassing. Glad nijiEN is a better place and no wonder why people prefer joining niji over holo because of such toxic fans

>>41917835
it's kiara herself that associates the rm with hololive job

>>41918216
I doubt it's Kiara herself who's posting RM twitter screenshots, my mentally challenged friend

>>41918287
stop moving the goalposts

>>41888739
um...all of this sounds incredibly based, and has only increased my respect for her.

>>41917933
those superchat numbers though

>>41888739
LOL the replies agreeing to this bait, all of this is schizo nothingburgers

>shilling her own song to her fans to reach a milestone
only schizos of the highest order would stretch this into drama
>wants a shot of umisea treatment with holobirds - is confident and self assertive enough to believe she should get it - puts pressure on company to achieve these kinda goals of more support
anon, there are girls who show up to stream just for a paycheck. Kiara is literally trying, and for that she gets mad credit. she's not doubting herself? so what - cover takes 30% of her paycheck she earns, she can talk shit all she likes
>she heads for a center spot on stage cause it was empty - ame tells her quietly to moves and she does without a fuss
extremly schizo. "how DARE she think the center stage was for HER?!" lol
>rants about powerlevels in lore to up the stake
oh wow what a bitch - how dare she express an extremely common opinion
>shilled her music she put a lot of work into
again, how dare she
>felt insecure about being the last to 1M, and expressed her feelings about it
what a whiny crybaby for feeling an entirely natural response to being last place in something

all of this is shit is shit schizos and eggs on this board would not shut the fuck up about, back when tempus, kronii and mori werent the problems of hololive.
this shit is extremely fuckin tame now, its almost nothing

>>41917835
nigger, asking for forgiveness for this bitch is like asking for the 5th chance, if you count the facts that 1. kiara was not content with her student life with bright future 2. kiara is hated by almost all of EN girls because she does that to herself - as her wasting her chances, and then there are her old scandals. no, this bitch doesn't deserve it. period

>>41919505
Anon I'm sure your mother told you this too but you're also a bitch like your oshi. Sucks to suck.

>>41877421
I just don't like her personality and voice. Also, she's really unfunny and most of her game choices are really boring.

>>41919505
Delusional sunk cost KFP right here. Yeah your oshi is perfect. Nothing from her PL implies that she can be a complete backstabbing cunt.
"See you in 9 months". Passive agressive bitch.
1:30:02
https://youtu.be/rI1GkJ6okzg?t=5402

>>41929627
>joins Rust server 9 months later
>may have spoken with Pekora during that arc
>next collab was Holotalk
>it was 14 months later
I dunno, Kiara was pretty on the money on that.

>>41929627
>Delusional sunk cost
lol have you looked into a mirror lately? you've been doing this for over 2 years. you're the definition of sunken cost.

Euro hours fucking blow. I seriously am VoD gang for life with her and it's why her VoDs get decent viewership compared % wise to her lives when you look at other more popular Holos ratios.
ESL will annoy some people
Her chicken voice can be rough sometimes.
She is emotional and overly feminine and it clashes with the voice sometimes. Fauna can provide overtly feminine and a soft voice.

>>41877421
Kiara I kneel.
The only true idol in the flaming pile of garbage that is HoloEN.

>>41877911
>sympathizes with our plight
Any examples?

>>41930843
>you've been doing this for over 2 years
I like how you assumed that anyone that ever had a negative opinion about Kiara is just non stop anti posting.
Holy mother of KFP schizos...

>>41877421
Her personality is god awful in Hololive, she always lets others take the fall first then proceed taking all the clout, truly fucking disgusting.

>>41878530
I see this said all the time but whenever a chuuba streams during euro hours you guys aren't there

>>41888739
I'll only address the Sparks push. All the talents know that unless it's funded through a project like Mori with UMG, any of the Umisea stuff, Irys/AZKi, etc., the talents have to fund the project almost entirely out of project. Kiara made Sparks to release post-birthday zatsu as both a gift to her fans and to herself. Suddenly, without warning Cover announces some shit on their twitter the day of Kiara's birthday, the biggest money-earning and attention getting day for every single Holo. It's an extremely important day to get morw eyes on you because more fans is more money and this is a job at the end of the day.
Move forward a little and Kiara finishes her borthday-zatsu telling people to go listen to the new single release in a few hours. Up pops up the 8 hour countdown on the official channel, taking a decent chunk of attention away from the Holo fanbase that are non-Kiara fans. The song gets released, and the Myth collab happens a little later, right after the 8 hour countdown shows off that Irys is coming.
Go watch that Myth collab. Each and everyone one of the girls feel like shit for Kiara because of how Cover rolled out their announcement and they constantly meme STREAM SPARKS with her because they know it would suck to have the same happen to them. Myth as an etirety force the meme together through their streams for the following week or two to try and bolster up her numbers. You'll probably call it pity or say that Kiara force them to or something retarded, but they empathized with her and helped push the song because of that.
Later on her 12 hour SC post birthday reading, she even talked about how multiple girls came and talked with her before the collab, and Ame especially was lamenring management together with her, i.e. the birth of the AmeTori push for a while back then (whch lead to culminating in Dreaming Chuchu and the low-poly idea).

>>41931865
Not everyone, but if you spend enough time here, you can start seeing patterns and some people don't even bother changing the way they post. You can 100% tell when someone is disproportionaly obsessed with someone, like when they continue to repeat the same schizo ramblings from over 2 years ago like this poor guy >>41888739 and this one >>41929627

>>41932069
It's because he's retarded. Anime is not as popular in Europe and has far less fans that in the NA time zone. They'll point to shit like Japan Expo in Paris as a deffinition that they're much bigger in numbers of fans, but neglect to mention that it's because they have far less con options and it's much easier/cheaper for a large chunk of the entirety of Europe to show up for a weekend con.

>>41932069
not spamming english in a japanese stream means that i'm not present?

>>41877421
all i hear is chicken voice.

>>41877421
she's the most "i want to be an idol" out of anyone in myth, even worked as an idol/dancer/singer irl for a while. i have immense respect for kiara but she's not my cup of tea (and plays mostly jrpg garbage)

in another life i could see myself as a kfp tho

>>41932252
This is beyond stupid. No one who gave a shit about Kiara was going to miss her new song. IRyS herself likely had her reveal pushed back due to Coco’s graduation.
Hololive can’t endlessly delay shit because it might upset one of their menheras. This “explanation” only makes Kiara seem retarded.

>>41935172
You've gotta be one of the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet. It was about Kiara getting burned on her birthday zatsu shit, the Sparks was just an extra cherry on top for the day. Feel free to go back and watch that Myth collab that night. Not a single one of the girls says anything about the countdown or the reveal, none of them pay attention to anyone in chat when it's brought up, and they all continuously push STREAM SPARKS meme for Kiara because they felt bad for her.

>>41919505
>last place
You numberniggers are so fucking retarded. The whole point is she should have just been happy and satisfied with having more fans than a lot of the JPs and IDs before her instead of thinking EN was racing for 1M. Nice to see your only defense for the whore is whining and numberfagging just like her. Fanbase truly reflects oshi.

>>41938776
>numbernigger
Funny coming from the people who numberfag to anti Kiara. The lack of self-awareness on display here continues to baffle me. It's extremely ironic seeing pieces of human waste like you trying to judge someone.

>>41932252
I admire your dedication to your oshi but the root of the problems wasn't just that, things ike
>telling her fans Azki and Sora are the only idols of Hololive - because only singing idols matter in this racket
>making Ina fear getting in trouble and not create mascot for IRyS
>the fact that she gets verified as an official artist on youtube later than IRyS
>the colleagues she didn't invite to her birthday totsu had to be Mori and Gura - the EN members that receive a sololive and a Cover produced 3D live respectively
>turning that benighted bitch, Ame against Cover
imply some waywardness and narcissism

"Kiara has gone rogue since a very long time ago" is the redpill KFP will never swallow

Why is this shitty false flag thread still up?

>>41939458
>the colleagues she didn't invite to her birthday totsu had to be Mori and Gura - the EN members that receive a sololive and a Cover produced 3D live respectively
proof?
>turning that benighted bitch, Ame against Cover
nevermind, you're just a moron

>>41939458
>Mori/Gura Zatsu invite
Bud, she invited everyone to her fucking birthday zatsu, Mori missed it and everyone memed on her being lazy/hateful of Hololive and it's fans because this was deep in the CONNOR arc.
>Ina Irys mascot
Where the hell did you get that info about Ina being afraid to create a mascot for Irys from? I've never seen anyone try to claim that.
>Turning Ame against Cover
Kiara said Ame called HER when she realized that Kiara was stress when talking in the group chat text. Ame and Kiara then talked TOGETHER about their woes and it helped Kiara feel better and spawned hard AmeTori stuff for a minute.
>Only idols
She did say that they were the ones she considered idols, but you tacked on the second half of that to make it sound like there was malice on the statement.
>Verified as an official artist
She never complained about Irys receiving it before she did, but talked about the issues of getting the verification and wondering why it was taking so long. Most Holos got it around the same time.
You are so fucking dumb, I love it.

>>41939647
He is clearly not even a hololive fan. Mori forgot to call in and immediately sent a voice tweet on twitter apologizing for missing the totsu.
Gura was busy in July. She did not call in to Mumei's totsu as well which was in the same month.
I was really impressed by her professionalism that stream. Chat kept spamming Mori ? and Gura ? in the stream but she ignored them very well. Also Gura and Mori appeared in her 3D birthday stream the very next day.

>>41877421

Because she is Orange sister.
Holobronies hate Coco and Kiara after Coco graduated and that effect Kiara until now.

>>41939458
Damn you KFPs have retarded antis too. My oshi has the cripple wheelchair schizo but looks like he is gone. Anyway I really appreciate your oshi for the gura crumbs and can't wait to see them on stage together for 4th fes.
Although I don't watch her streams, I am secretly rooting for Kiara since december after I saw these awful antis she has to deal with on this board and that bannedvtmemes twitter account.

>>41940792
Oh it's unreal how intense some of them are. The real issue is that a lot of us are too retarded (or have too much fun shitting on each other back and forth) to just ignore retarded bait.

>>41877421
Gura will be back and all will be okay. Future collabs with her will bring in tourists again.

>>41914492
love that guy

She is the Regis Altare of Myth. Even he wanted to make a podcast.

>>41877421
She's good at telling the truth, but she needs to learn how to shut the fuck up and think what she says

I think Kiara didn't get used to the corpo vtuber power dynamic. She thought she is bigger than she is and acted accordingly, but got put into her place a few months in.

Pushing this stupid samefagged thread over bump limit so it dies

>>41939327
The chicken isn't some special victim of numberfags you're making her out to be. Every EN, even Gura, has had numberniggers drag them for having streams not doing as well as the JP powerhouses. You should have noticed very few people itt are shitting on her because stream has bad numbers, it's almost all calling her an annoying whore with an equally annoying voice.

>>41895238
This is what I don't get. Her fake voice is so grating. The accent is fine.

>>41877421
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
She's currently not being impregnating by (Me)

>>41877421
>She deserves it more
sure she does

>>41881846
Changing her voice wont save her

>>41885900
Will she ever recover?

>>41882455
Same problem as Bae

>>41917933
At least she gets superchats

>>41913886
>Why are here eyes like this?
>here

>doesn't have content I'm interested in