/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Finana.
She's protecting the mentally ill while the other three simply don't understand their job.

I hate trannies more than I do actual men, and I hate tranny fetishists more than I do functional women that like men, as they probably should so it's Finana, especially knowing she's a Minnesotan aka a Walmart brand leaf that reveres George Floyd as the second coming of Christ

Gura's sidekick for being the first to bite. I mean she always hated her fans but being an anime puppet girl telling the people taking time out of their day to watch you to get it together. Well damn son. I'm kind of impressed.
Smol Ame should have just usurped Gura's sidekick at that point for like two weeks of streams so everyone would have let it go but nope. She doubled down with Tempiss.
Ameway for sure.
Honorable head shave for Kronii however. No one past the age of 25 has a friend group anymore. Most people get married and are busy with kids. That just showed a lack of life experience on her part.

Surely enna

>>41777204
>Enna literally flew out to apology-fuck a dude
>No one addresses this

Ame and Finana were the most bitter

Kronii. Hating fans bothers me less than entering a community you hate and then complaining it's not like some other community. I've had too many hobbies destroyed by this BS.

>>41776961
None because if you've trusted any of these employed e-girls then you're already lost

>>41776961
Lia by a long shot
A fucking dick sucking ASMR stream interrupted to cuck her audience, its like a fucking doujinshi

Keep your literally who out of that image

stealth /ringo/ ?

Ame pisses me off the most. The others might be retards or not really care about their fans, but Ame is unbelievably patronizing and has stayed that way for a very very long time

>>41776961
nanaFi

>>41777416
Didn't a Nijinig do this exact thing before?

>>41776961
I wouldn't know, I'm not a cuckoldry obsessed American. None of these comments made me defensive nor did they trigger my schizophrenia.

>>41777432
The one that lies about her age the attract pedos because she doesn't have a personality? No

>>41776961
I've had sex before so none of them

>>41776961
In order of most to least forgivable if my oshi did it:

>Kronii's retarded handling of Tempus controversy
>Improve yourself/surprise Altair appearance
Forgiveness stops here
>Lia's 22 minute NTR ASMR
I become an anti here
>SJW tranny Fish

>>41776961
Not Ame. She only told her fans to use their feelings so they could improve, which compared to the other three, is not a bad thing.

>>41776961
IT HAS BEEN COMPLETED

>>41776961
I've never watched a second of Nijisanji in my life. What did the fish do?

>>41777426
dont bully finana

>>41776961
Towa
She won't have sex with me

>>41776961
>Feesh
Prior grooming information was shared in /nijien/, so we knew for a long time she was retarded. Backtracked within a day and ironically befriended the femboy baiter Aster in the new wave that drops weeks later.
>Ame
Patronizing and seems to almost belittle her chat with the topic like a 90's sit-com mother discovering her son smokes.
>Kronii
Part of the gender spectrum and seemingly another self-loathing Asian born in the Western world. Her comments are whatever, because she has done everything in her power to "own the haters"
>Lia
After being on the verge of self destructive habits, returns to great form and elevated by a devout chat in an amazing subathon. To celebrate getting $10k, so panders to her chat only for a beta "voice actor" to NTR the whole experience. Seemingly blames her chat for being upset at the invest they made.

>>41777840
Banned the word Trap from her chat for being an anti-Trans slur

Lamy making fun of janitors

>>41777840
D*scord Twitterniggers got her to ban the words "traps" and "trannies" from her chat while telling everyone to "educate yourself". Her fans pushed back hard and so she reversed the changes and said sorry.

>>41777510
Yeah, Vox had a bfe asmr stream and Reimu interrupted it. Reimu tried to play it off as her not knowing, despite the fact that she was streaming before interrupting and specifically said onstream that she is going to disrupt the bfe stream. Funny enough this caused Phantomos to go all in on Akurei hetship to support their oshi and btfo the femcel kindred

>>41776961
Kronii because I wanted to like her. Finana is a literal trashy whore and Amelia was a bitch on wheels even when she debuted. The fact that she tried to subtly doxx Gura on stream by talking about her past life was really disgusting, and Gura clapped her like a bitch in response when she said her real name in that one minecraft stream.
And I don't really care about Lia, she can die tommorow for all I care.

>>41778143
Post timestamp.

>>41777914
I don't see how this is a big deal.

>>41776961
kronii's image is the most retardest

>>41778364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq00LvNmKn0&t=6049s

>>41778225
>The fact that she tried to subtly doxx Gura on stream by talking about her past life was really disgusting
Wait really?

>>41776961
Prolly ame or kronii, with nijisanji they’ve been doing that shit for a while… but hololive was pretty big on gfe, it was definitely a bigger betrayal with them

>>41778399
Even fags don't believe this shit, it is literally just a way to cowtow to troons who want attention.

I forgive Lia, she said dumb stuff during a mental breakdown. Ame and Kronii were actually spiteful towards their audience.

>>41778686
How long was her mental breakdown that she was posting this shit a full day after the incident?

>>41778225
>Kronii because I wanted to like her.
This. She was my favorite when Council debuted. Too bad about her personality...

>>41778809
Lia is extremely menhera so she's probably still a bit fucked up from it. She deleted her tweet after one of her simps told her how bad it came across.

>>41778500
Wow that’s insane… and people were shocked that she got hate? She literally said “im interrupting their date, i’m gonna get so much hate for this” and then was surprised when she actually got hate? Is she retarded?

>>41778511
Second half of the clip for Ame
https://youtu.be/B4x3RtAy-Hg

>>41778914
>Is she retarded?
Yeah

>>41776961
none because I don't have autism

>>41778991
Then why are you here?

>>41776961
I never watched any of them lmao.

>>41777182
Bro Finana is in Minnesota? Duluth or Twin Cities?

>>41776961
>Fish
Twiter Female that spent too much time on twitter and thinks IRL works like it
>Blond
Twitch female that spent too much time on twitter and twitch and think IRL works like those platforms
>Clock
Tumbler female that spent too much time on tumbler and then twitter and thinks IRL works like those platforms
>Lia
normalfag autist who got a job streaming to weebs online

>>41776961
None of them, I'm an adult

>>41776961
who's bottom right and what did they do?

I don't watch Phase or Holo.

>>41779030
nta, but to point and laugh at monkeys /here/ then throw proverbial stones at them, calling them retarded and watching them try their hardest to cope and make comebacks while holding back the tears.

>>41778914
All the fat that should go to the brain goes to the ass, such is colombian biology

>>41777416
post the dick sucking stream

>>41778940
On one side only those who knew Gura's previous work will get it, on the other side ame is a salty cunt so i cant fully deny it wasnt made with malicious intent. Only Gura knows for sure, i still hate ame though.

none of them because i'm normal

>>41779228
Hmong so I'm guessing maybe St Paul or could be Vadnais Heights

>I’m normal
Go back. You still have time to leave before it takes effect.

>>41779353
She was doing a lewd ASMR reward for reaching $10k during her subathon and some dude she met up with at a con called her on discord so she abandoned the ASMR and flirted with him for 20+ minutes until Tenma came in and told her to knock it off and banned him from her chat. Then she proceeded to freak out about people being upset about it. The next day she tweeted that anyone who had a problem with it could leave her community

>>41779281
Fish is from a place where the world really does operate like Twitter, you can't fault her too much, she is a product of her dumbass environment

>>41779455
You could be talking to real people, or doing work.

>>41779918
How long do you think it takes to scan a thread and type a post?

>>41779918
On my commute home from work? No thanks, I'll sit on this train seat and browse 4chan for daily monkey entertainment before cooking dinner.

>>41779851
OOF

>>41778143
I dropped Vox over this. He did something like a 45+ minute “breakup” vid and clamped down on “parasocial relationships”. I watched the whole thing, hoping he was going to give new rules or be positive somehow. Nothing. Imagine if you put up with a lecture for almost an hour from your oshi that you’re “not in a relationship”. If a female vtuber did that her career would be over.

He really went to bat for Reimu too when it was clear she was sabotaging him. It’s clear he’s fucking ghost on the side. He also did some weird NTR ASMR streams after that with the audience. Not the content I was wanting and many others. It’s like he was trying to send a message.

His numbers took a hit after that, understandably. He’s autistic so he still can’t understand how damaging it was to his career and became more number obsessed. He knew he fucked up.

>>41779851
So the question is, how many actually left?
Did she lose half her audience over night?

>>41776961
None because I don't watch any of them. They were all amusing, and laughing as all of the over-sensitive veetees freaked out brought me some amount of joy.

>>41776961
The worst taste by far was your mom's pussy.

>>41776961
Imagine giving a shit about Nijisanji EN lmao
Never cared about krooni either
No idea who is the one in the lower right
I never followed Ame's streams with any regularity but out of all those four she was the only one I cared about, so I guess her.

>>41777590
>>Lia's 22 minute NTR ASMR
wow, wouldn't you happen to have a link to that, friend?

>>41780174
She hasn't streamed since and her manager is moderating her Twitter posts and deleted her fuck off post so we'll see. Lots of cucks in the thread are desperate to redirect though

>>41778399
>EDUCATE YOURSELF
It wasn't the fact she banned it or the reason she banned it but how she paraded herself as being morally superior for it that pissed people off

>L-Lia, why are you smiling at me like that?!

>>41776961
Kronii's was funny, she actually seemed to think the majority of the vtuber audience was well adjusted enough and with a large enough friend group to have platonic female friends so when she made that comment not only were the people who were already angry about the tempus collabs STILL angry but she also splash damaged the rest of her audience too, I was in chat and I saw many many comments like
>y-yeah of course I do
>I don't even have male friends
ect.

She set out to convince people not to worry about tempus boys as potential romantic prospects and ended up reminding the majority of her chat how fucking wrong their lives have gone in general. All you can do is laugh, I don't think she was even malicious, just fucking retarded. She also pissed off shippers and some twitter lesbos with her
>yuri ships are okay because everyone knows it's not real unlike hetships
Just foot in mouth over and over again.

>>41777402
Words to Live by

>>41777251
Aloucreeps don't want to let it be discussed

>>41777542
But you are simp for lesbos

>>41781011
As someone who knows nothing about Kronii outside of yabs, I love her now, this shit is just so stupid and oblivious at every turn. It's the most adorable kind of idiocy.

>>41777589
You simp for vtubers so pls don’t lie

>>41776961
How insecure can you be?

>>41781011
I mean, her chat for the most part only saw her as a talking pair of tits and got angry when she tried to hide them.
It wouldn't surprise me if she genuinely wanted them out after finding out about this, which caused the whole 180 turn.

>>41781186
meds ennaschizo

Nobody is mad at Kronii for that, they're mad at her for a different reason.

>>41776961
Finana. I hate the whole completely misguided crusade against the word 'trap' in the first place. Kroni and Ame put their foot in their mouth hard and definitely showed poor attitude in the way they respond to drama, but the actual drama is exacerbated by the fanbase projecting their own insecurities. Finana took a soapbox on one of the most infuriatingly retarded "controversies" and then had the gall to talk down to everyone about it. Don't really know what Lia's whole thing was about, but I doubt it'd piss me off more than the self-righteousness of the fish.

>>41781294
She said it in an unarchived members stream specifically made to calm everyone down and managed to upset pretty much everyone instead it really was hillarious. Her not being my oshi helps but I just look back on that whole arc and find it funny.
>>41781385
Doesn't change the fact that in the moment she was learning something new about chuuba fans, it was a combination of her still thinking her fans were normal people and the slow realisation that they were anything but that made that stream so funny to me. Who knows how she feels about them at this point, she took a break after that then came back with the
>I will collab with who I want
statement so maybe you are right, but in that moment it was like watching someones innocence being stripped away.

>>41776961
Finana the other three did nothing wrong

>>41781862
The female friends comment was not in the unarchived members stream and the reason the fanbase was upset was completely different see >>41781611
Stop talking out of your ass when you only read threads and watch dramanigger videos.

>>41781611
Damn, this must have hurt.
I thought I'd already lost all respect I ever had for her, but this, this is plain meanness. Fuck this bitch, seriously.

>>41777057
but you're mentally ill, anon...

>>41776961
Probably Lia considering the full context.
It's one thing to talk to male coworkers, what Lia did has no excuses, but I bet her cuck fans already forgave her for cucking them live on stream.
Feesh is just a dumb whore, no one cared about her.

>>41782194
They're encouraging people to harass Tsun talents to distract people from it

>>41782063
It was a while ago anon calm down, If I was mistaken about where she made the comment fair enough, but I was there for the unarchived stream, the clipper comment sections, begging Nerrev to shut it all down. Doesn't change what I said about the unarchived members stream in general and like I said I found the whole thing funny.

>>41778225
Gura straight up saying ames real name is way worst but go ahead act like gura is the victim

>2 holos
>1 niji
>and my little 2view lia
she's made it

>>41779455
Sounds like autism to me

>>41781611
>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
that's enough reason, not only she outed herself as a retard who doesn't even know what she is talking about not to mention it's even more retarded because most of her fan definitely not idolfag but she also being disrespectful to the company roots, like seriously where did she think she is ?

>>41779814
You know there's a function that lets you reply to people directly?

>>41776961
>finana
banned a word because she thought it was some slur
>ame
told fans to fuck off if they won't like the change of including the boys in some of her projects
>kronii
the most piss-poor attempt of damage control because she couldn't handle negative criticism (probably for the first time even)
>lia
answered a call from some guy, then called people who were upset about it "fake fans", showed remorse afterwards

lia's case seem to be the most tame compared to the other three because she did acknowledge that she did fuck up; the others either doubled down or caved in with their stupidity which makes it a huge toss-up who comparatively did worse

>>41776961
the last one genuinely has receipts of being put into a mental hospital anon, she genuinely doesn’t understand them, take her off the image

>>41784243
>then called people who were upset about it "fake fans"
this part didn’t happen (but it might happen in a return stream)

>>41780085
Gets worse. Dude is a fat balding SEAorc. She likes him for his 'voice acting industry' connections (by all accounts a LARP). He knew what he was doing to the point where he straight up told her in front of her audience to dump these losers and come hang out with him.

It was just brutal, parody-tier shit. If Lia weren't small corpo it would be a nuclear yab.

>>41777590
>surprise Altair appearance
It wasn't a surprise though? She was doing a karaoke "duet" stream. And it wasn't even a real appearance, it was just her singing along with his karaoke. Although, she did choose the absolute worst song of his to use.

>>41779851
>Then she proceeded to freak out about people being upset about it. The next day she tweeted that anyone who had a problem with it could leave her community
she told haters who didn’t understand to get out
she said she didn’t plan for him to show up.

>>41784978
H-Honey...its not what you think!

>>41779851
>flirted with him for 20+ minutes until Tenma came in and told her to knock it off and banned him from her chat.
HOLY BASED TENMA

>>41784543
It did
>>41778809
Nobody wanted anything but an apology for what she did, "making her suffer" means expecting her to feel bad about what she did

>>41784978
She literally answered his call, it's not like he fucking held a gun to her head or forced his way in

>>41784243
>lia's case seem to be the most tame
maybe because she is a literal who but >>41779851 is pretty brutal

>>41776961
Kronii. I was full on Gosling for her until she started sucking Vesper's dick.

When there were only a handful of EN vtubers, people mostly debated the impossibility of being cucked and the superiority of tightly controlled chicks voice acting anime girls.

Nowadays people just ask "which will will cuck us next, and how hard".

>>41784978
>haters who didn't understand
Didn't understand what? That she needs to flirt with random dudes even if it is to the detriment of the people who just gave her $10,000? It's fucking insane even without the fact that she's met up with him in the past and that he has connections she wants

>>41779851
Did she forget she was streaming, or some shit?
I can't wrap my head around why she would think this was a good idea to do on air

>>41785439
She doesn't think about anyone but herself, this is something she wanted to do so she did it. I doubt any real thought went into it, she just showed her true self accidentally. The whole "If you think I should feel bad about this fuck you" tweet confirms it

This thread smells of exclusion from the gene pool

>>41785195
i-is it really you?...i missed you...

>>41779851
>Tenma came in and told her to knock it off and banned him from her chat
Why is this hag so based? I wish she was my aunt

Anyone have a link to the ASMR and the conversation afterwards?

>>41786053
Her specific words after banning him were "no encouraging this kind of behavior" so at least someone is looking out for the Phase girls

>>41785802
Y'know I dated an e-girl once, she wanted to be a vtuber but was just an ASMRtuber. Too dumb and broke to have a good enough rig to Live2D it.
Having been on the other side of this stuff, I dunno how to word it other than I did bad shit with her, by indulging in her desires to shit on her "simps" behind their backs, while we were e-fucking.
These girls don't like you, they don't respect you, at least most of them don't. I won't name names, but it's pretty clear when a chuuba is the exception to this, and there are a handful of 2/3views I've seen, who genuinely do care about their chat. Albeit instead of the chat, the chuuba is the more parasocial one in those cases.
But for the vast majority of them, they don't like you. They just see you as a means to acquire free shit, and outright laugh about taking advantage of your loneliness, without a shred of regret. It's part of why if I ever start streaming, I want to be as impersonal as possible and treat it like being the host of a show, focusing exclusively on entertaining them. ie "be frinedLY but not friendS with the audience"

Ame may have been a shit for saying it, and had obviously ulterior motives, but she was right in telling her detractors to "improve themselves" imo. If only because putting your happiness in the hands of someone who puts on a facade for a living, is always a recipe for disaster.

>>41786250
Here's her conversation with him, no one clipped the ASMR yet as far as I know
https://files.catbox.moe/fhwjok.mp4

>>41786382
did she delete the vod?

>>41776961
Ame because it was after the “You fucking bitch” to Gura. After a while I realize it was because Gura was already stone walling the homos behind the scene before they even debuted

AmeSame is dead and it hurts

>>41786250
>>41786382
>https://gofile.io/d/KbShHG
entire stream

>>41781582
>proving his point...

>>41779851
>some dude she met up with at a con
Careful, they're nuking posts now. Not sure if it's an itchy trigger finger re:doxxing or just janny protecting one of his chosen people no matter how tangential.

>>41786485
May the ESL be with you.

>>41776961
Kronii's fucking retarded comment is still the funniest shit I've heard from a vtuber.

>>41786464
I assume if you have the dedication to watch a several hour VOD you can find the link in the archive

>>41779851
>>41786382
>>41786516
HOLY MOTHER OF KEKS

This shit is the worst bt far, do phasecucks really?

>>41779851
Phasecucks I'm so sorry which fanbase do we attack to deflect blame?

>>41776961
I forgive Finana because she sucked my dick on stream twice

>>41776961
>Educate yourself
Finana being a cunt about femboys: "calling them traps is offensive!!" Definitely uncalled for.
>Improve yourself
I will collab with males while you cry about it you parasocial fucks. Very contrarian and hateful of her audience.
>You have female friends right?
That one is a mere shadow of the much worse shit Kronii said. She's the worst of this bunch.
>I don't understand internet men
That one is less cunty because she's being vague

>>41787254
I forgive her because I saw her tits

>>41780086
To be fair he was getting pressured form all his coworkers and en troons that dont watch him to give his real fans the middle finger, they have the right to personally disagree or be disappointed in his descision of course, but they basically forced him to bend the knee.

Ame love, Kronii love, fuck Nijiniggers and everyone that hates Hologirls. Good bye now.

>>41787078
They've been raiding the streams of Tsun talents. Pippa herself raided Purin's chat last night and shit up her chat for hours

>>41787323
Proofs?

>>41787323
stream reps or archive reps?

>>41776961
The blasted quartet of EN, hallowed be thy names, I kneel before thee mighty, and offer 10k from yours truly, in exchange I ask for mald and seethe, animate my shell with salt like strings to a puppet, feed me lies from dusk to dawn and break them all over for my corpse to come to life once more.

>>41787360
Pippa's become so different since she started to incline. I expect a backstab towards her audience this year.

>>41787381
>>41787390
oh wait that was Pomu haha. Sorry, I only care about Elira the other lazulights are the same to me

>>41787465
Is this a fucking curse??

>>41785381
It's funny how you guys are so biased about ENs but the JP kill count is WAAAAAY higher you either , just don't understand because of the language barrier, don't care because you perceive Japan as better

>>41787566
dunno about other corpos but in Hololive whatever a member does is ok if she's from the main branch

>>41787468
To be fair the fish literally forced her to change on threat of getting punishment roomed

>>41787566
YWNBJ

>>41787346
Forced him to man the fuck up you mean. And he still went back to the menhera chinks like a whipped bitch not even 2 days later.
I'm happy he took such a massive blow to his income and growth after that.

>>41785381
People were simply retarded then. All of them have or had boyfriends. If you don't believe me simply go to the doxxfag website.
And no, whoever your oshi is, she isn't excluded from this.

>>41776961
Funny how all of them except Finana pertain to collabing with men, but Finana makes people seethe enough to include her in here just because she basically said "Please don't be an asshole to trans people." and apparently that makes her Satan in the eyes of /pol/tards.

>>41780086
I dropped him for those exact same reasons too

>>41787566
JP girls actively disavow being sluts, EN girls get mad and say "what's wrong with being a slut". These are completely different things.

>>41787935
>defending satans people makes her Satan
Yes?

>>41778914
Mentally ill latina women, please understand

>>41788015
>He never watched JP and is making shit up

I don't care about any of these really, but I'll never take a Phase cuck seriously again. Whenever anyone else fucks up they never shut the fuck up, but when it's one of their girls it's gee aw shucks.

>>41786283
Tenma is mature enough to know a groomer when she sees one.

>>41784978
>>41785111
>>41785186
>>41785393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aofoBrFNdg

>>41788101
I'm sure that lie works well on Reddit, go back so it'll work again

>>41788015
You don't understand Japanese, retard.

>>41788101
>he's making shit up and accusing others of making shit up
Michael Cat nuked her own career to try and 'prove' she wasn't doing anything.

>>41788281
Noel is a literal whore.

>>41788095
It's funny that every latina in vtubing is extra insane/stupid.

>>41788373
Those places are third world countries for a reason

>>41788039
"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Being a hateful asshole to "sinners "still will not let you into the Lord's good graces, something /pol/tards will have a rude awakening to when Judgemnet Day comes

>>41788312
I've seen you in multiple threads and all your posts are shit-takes.

>>41787935
>>41788461
>you are my gayest retard

>>41784243
>lia's case seem to be the most tame
Most obvious Phasefag in the thread. 22 mins of flirting during a GFE stream

>>41788281
>>41788314
>Keeps making shit up pretending he watches JP
Noel literally has a porn account that she still uploads to and a good chunk of them have porn ASMR or porn VA. Cope some more retards. Go ahead and check their doxxes until then kys.

>>41788499
Your mom takes shit in her mouth.

>>41788357
>>41788591
She is a fappe artiste, not a whore.

>>41788676
ITT: Cope

>>41788591
I fucking wish she did porn anon
But whatever, I'll let you have a freebie. "girls" imply more than 1 person retard

>>41785802
>She doesn't think about anyone but herself
I mean... Plenty of VTubers are behaving like that, no? Talent freedom and such.

>>41788774
Read again ESLchama it's more than one. Even Migo has porn VA.

>>41788909
What do you mean >even? I have no clue on that rrat but jumping from Noel to her for your blame game just shows how little you have to come with.

>>41787935
Trans people are subhuman and should be treated as such

>>41789093
Yeah ok there, call me when you actually start watching JP instead of pretending that you do.

>>41788909
>being an eroge voice actor means you're a degenerate slut
Anon have you ever watched an anime or is vtubing your first otaku hobby
Oh excuse me I forgot
>ENfags

>>41789253
You're then EN fag who pretends he watches JP

>>41788735
No retard there's nothing wrong with fap material holy fuck how do you not understand we aren't talking about JOI ASMR here, I know you watch Vshojo because you niggers are mindfucked and can't tell the difference between ASMR and Nyanners 'collabing' with Lord Aethelstan all day long.

>>41789253
>starring in porn
>not a slut
anon?

>>41776961
Lia is the worst. If you were actually there when it happened you know. I feel like I literally got NTRd.

>>41789359
>It's fine if my oshi sells herself to people fapping to her it doesn't make her a slut, I swear JP is completely different and is not full of girls with boyfriends

Slut >:(
Japanese slut :O

>>41787935
YWNBAW

>>41776961
Lia is by far the wost i almost had to trow up so bad was the NTR shit

>>41779851
This is wrong on so many levels.
She wasn't mad people were upset. She literally got drunk and cried and apologized for ruining everything.
The last part is completely fucking made up too. You should honestly kill yourself. The yab was bad enough without people making shit up to add to it.

>>41789376
Wakamoto is a massive slut because he voices in eroge, now I see the light
>>41789499
>voicing eroge and doing risque content on niconico = has boyfriends
How did you make that jump, from your cuck fetish?

>phasefag desperately trying to derail thread into an argument about holos

>>41776961
Finana, Has done a ton of fuck of retarded shit and has tried moral fagging her audience to a retarded degree.

Amelia is fine and her lecturing her audience was deserved

Kronii is retarded and should have kept her mouth shut and just do what the fuck she wanted instead of trying to kneel to the spergs in her fandom. Her vesper interactions are fun because they're both schizos that need meds.

Whoever the fuck is probably the worst. Finana tier in not being able to read the room bringing some random fagaloon on the stream. At least when finana did it it was one of her actual friends and he's a flaming faggot so a lot less threatening to the more autismal audience members. This chick brought some random dude to flirt with her on stream. I like male vtubers and don't give a fuck about some autistic GF simulator bullshit but being third wheeled with actual flirting is always awkward as fuck no matter if it's IRL or in a stream.

>>41789780
>Anon desperately defending a girl with a boyfriend call others a cuck
Many such cases

>>41776961
>fish
dumb retard who got groomed by troons
>ame
lol, lmao
>kronni
absolute walking wreck
>lia
the NTR doujin bundled with "wait you guys don't like that"

Lia is probably the worst imo, if I had any strong feeling for her before that that shit would break my heart
I blame kronii on mori, she was the catalyst that started this nigger behaviour

>>41776961
Nothing beats the Lia one for the actual yab, doesn't matter who the guy actually is to her he acted like a total creep and implied they are close enough off stream for him to "bother her" until she gets out of the house to hang out with him. Imagine someone getting on to a holo stream and doing that shit, holo fans talking about being cucked by stars/live interaction seem ridiculous in comparison to this.

>>41787935
Fuck off tranny. What Finana actually did was ban the word "trap" from her chat and then virtue signal about how she was combatting transphobia. This pissed people off because the word "trap" predates the modern trans movement and doesn't even typically describe transgender people. It's another entry to the long list of shit that trannies have hijacked and destroyed.

Nice try at rewriting the narrative, though.

>>41781611
this post completely omits the massive raging shitstorm the "reasonable fans" caused at that single tweet response that had Kronii fuck off for a week in the first place
maybe if they shown they can not freak the fuck out over the tiniest thing they'd have gotten a different response, but clock woman seems all the happier not having to walk on eggshells

I didn't follow any of them but Lia takes the title of the worst becasue she had her groomer's voice on stream for 20 mins.
All others you can argue they were defending their coworkers, but what Lia did was really over the top insulting.

>>41789877
I honestly find it funny, there's holos with actual husbands and every retard that has never watched a second of a japanese clip just tries to shit on noel. Maybe one day you'll get someone with this anon, one day

>>41783335
>>unfortunately idol culture is a thing
jesus, do you still think that's what she wrote on that member's post? you're the same type of poster that image was calling out

>>41789959
>kronii on mori
Didn't she invite her to a spa or something during that break before the 180?

>>41789735
>She literally got drunk and cried and apologized for ruining everything
she didn't seem to care when she was talking to him for 20 minutes
she honestly didn't get harrassed enough

>>41789499
It's fine because I fap to it.

>>41790107
ever consider that most people think doing porn is worse than being in a relationship? not everything is about GFE or NTR.

>>41776961
Honestly I think Kroni was the least worse of them all because she at least felt bad for keking her fans.
At least that's what seemed like. Regardless, it was entertaining to watch all the cope threads.

>>41790187
Yea it was bad and I don't like even defending it. But facts are facts. She clearly regretted it after the fact and at no point told people they should fuck off if they have a problem.

>>41776961
Shouldnt be Enna on the picture?

>>41790301
>As long as she comes crying later then it's all fine

>>41790301
she said sorry so it's okay? something tells me you don't extend that forgiveness to other people outside of Phase

>>41790107
I am not shitting on Noel. I am fine with her having a boyfriend. I am more than fine with her ASMR account(in fact it's far better content than her normal vtuber streams). I just hate faggots who don't watch JP and pretend that it's somehow a different reality from EN and all of the JP streamers are some kind of saint virgins that would never even look at a guy in their life. They are the weebs of the VTuber community and I hate them for the same reason I hate normal "original" weaboos.

>>41790353
Did any of her fans actually make an issue out of it like in the other examples? The impression I got from that situation was that they are all proud cucks and supported it, if anything Enna wanted it to be a bigger deal than it was because she is a psycho.

>>41790301
I saw the "apology", didn't seem like she regreted doing it at all

>>41790411
You're really obsessed about the cow. You should really get some help with that…

>>41790370
>>41790374
Can you retards even read? I'm not defending it. I'm just correcting the lies in his post.

>>41790499
Anon... learn how to read and stay in your lane

>>41790370
it was a mistake she made when she was sleep-deprived, half-drunk and born retarded, she picked up a call on a split-second decision and clearly started to regret it midway through
shortly after the call she took down her donations because she said she would have a breakdown if she kept it up after "that" and then she cried throughout the following hours
she made a stupid tweet about "real fans" after that was probably lashing out at trolls bombing her maros with insults. No way does she think she did nothing bad.

>>41787360
>Pippa herself raided Purin's chat last night and shit up her chat for hours
she raided into purin when she was about to end stream. it only lasted for couple of minutes..

>>41790495
Come on now, what she did was a disaster but she was breaking down for pretty much the rest of the stream and ended it in tears repeatedly saying sorry.

>>41790239
The entire reply chain is about boyfriends retard
>>41790411
>confirmed boyfriends for most of EN
>only 2 confirmed husbands in the entirety of JP
What, you're going to tell me the girl who streamed her entire life since she was a teenager has the best opsec in the world and that she very secretly has a boyfriend? Or do you have another kind of schizo theory

>>41790557
Hmm? You're the one equating the whole of JP to your dear cow.

>>41790626
>only 2 confirmed husbands in the entirety of JP
Why am I even talking to you retards. You too should come back once you actually start watching JP.

>>41790711
I am not anon. Learn. How. To. Read. And since you are at it also learn japanese so that you actually start watching JP instead of imagining them in your head.

>>41790169
The spa didn't even happen until a few weeks later.

>>41790748
Your schizo delusions aren't actual facts anon, "confirmed" means completely verifiable. Also you still haven't named a single other person

>41790748
>41790809
That schizo really loves to think that doxsites are reality.

>>41776961
Maybe Finana and Lia.
The other two did nothing wrong, Ame has been calling her fan base losers since debut. Kronii has no clue wtf is required of an idol.

>>41790877
Yeah ok whatever you say, now go watch JP streams instead of pretending that you do.

Why does /vt/ seem to have the biggest number of sociopaths? 4chan use to be a place where autists could post with other autists and everyone was treated equally. Nowadays, everyone tries to larp as a normie, and acts like everyone is autistic except for them.

I guess that’s why anons get aggressive when I call them autistic or a faggot. I always mean it in a self-depricating friendly way, but it seems like they always take it as an unironic insult, because that’s the main way people use those words nowadays.

>>41790353
I am hearing about this Enna, could I get a quick rundown?

>>41776961
I am the anon who transcribed the chat interaction between the two of them. /pcg/ dug up a lot of stuff and the shipping hole seems to run deep. I am making a case file for this yab, tomorrow Lia will probably address the matter in her return stream. That will be included as well.

>>41791009
Certain time-zones and certain chuubas attract a specific clientele.

>>41790985
OK anon, which JP streams, tell me the streams of the holos with boyfriends

>>41791009
>not wanting to get cucked is being sociopath now
you can tell this place is full of women

>>41776961
kronii's surely. She literally did the 'give-and-take' shit with her fans, then went "lmao i don't remember, anyways im going with the stars, but you cucks better stay" I didn't stay fuck no

>>41787935
>>41790006
Don't forget she thought futa of all things was a slur towards trannies too, and this was supposedly coming from someone who watches hentai all of the time

>>41790048
>Not having to walk on eggshells
Yeah, it's SO FUCKING HARD to not initiate collabs or respond to a fucking underwear tweet from tempus, THE AGONY!!!! CAN THIS WOMAN HAVE A FUCKING BREAK?? CAN SHE HAVE FUN??? NOT TWEETING???? YOU FUCKING INCEL MONSTER!!!
YWNBAW

>>41791010
Enna Alouette is a female member of Nijisanji did an off-collab with a male where they held hands on stream. It pissed off a lot of people /here/. However, Enna's fanbase was already 50/50 male/female and fairly hostile towards unicorns so it never took off as hard as some of the other yabs did.

>>41791009
Don't worry about it since the subreddit ban a lot of them are /here/ now they just need a little time to acclimate

>>41791307
It’s annoying enough you spergs backseat every single game stream of theirs, you wanna backseat their tweets too?
Imagine being so pathetic you can’t trust a single person, get some help.

>>41786485
>because it was after the “You fucking bitch” to Gura.
No? Ame told you to improve yourself in July while the Rust shit happened in September.

>>41791404
>Trust someone on the internet
You outed yourself as the pathetic one, good one.

>>41791241
What Finana did doesn't really bother me that much because it's pretty obvious that she's a sheltered kid who's pretending to be something she's not. I have a hard time faulting her for being a product of her environment. It would be different if Pomu did the same thing. The trannies who bend over backwards to build narratives are the ones who actually piss me off.

>>41791404
Imagine being so pathetic you virtue signal on /vt/

>>41791404
nta but of all the tweets she could have decided to respond to if she changed her mind about talking to them after the members stream, a pic of his underwear and her offering her opinion on them was a bold choice.

>>41786382
Why

>>41790475
She got the message

>>41776961
The fish considering she is part of what ruined NijiEN
>2 male collabing whores
who cares
>literal who
who cares

>>41791914
He was attention whoring in chat, calling her multiple times before she eventually picked up and is also a VA with "contacts" who has been grooming her since october. I guess her wanting something from him overwhelmed the part of her brain that should have told her that having him on stream would be a terrible idea.

>>41791307
see, you're already typing a storm like a sperg and making me want to not deal with you
and I also gonna be happier about it

>>41776961
Kronii, because she had a lot of viewers.

>>41792255
You don't watch them but you decided to enter the thread anways, nice one retard.

>>41776961
Kronii's the kind of Western woman who basks in the privilege of ever-more-feminized society and derives pleasure from the anguish of ever-more-marginalized men.
Amelia's sentiments could perhaps be interpreted as genuinely constructive.
Holonigger, so I don't watch the others.

>>41785116
From where is the girl in this picture?

>>41792624
Japan.

>>41792319
You can be a cunt on here without consequences but if you were trying to sell a bug titty anime girl dakimakura don’t be surprised if being a cunt will impact your sales.

>>41776961
Im not a unicorn but what lia did is very stupid im glad i dont watch her

>>41792319
Yeah, on fucking 4chan you nigger, seriously you people sound all like containment breakers and twittards

>>41791307
you will never be Kronii's boyfriend

>>41793056
>He think people want to Date a vtuber
Nigga you cannot be this fucking pathetic, please tell me you're larping.

>Finana
Took the hit but never recovered from it
>Ame
Took the hit and understood what she did wrong. Hasn't fucked up again so the trust is building back.
>Kronii
Got hit. Said she understood. Decided to double down the next day. Got hit again. Management had to step in and back her. Still getting hit to this day cause she doesn't understand
>Lia
Recently got hit and we still don't know what will happen

>>41793120
>is a GFE (girlfriend experience) vtuber
>nobody wants to date them
Sounds to me like you need to educate yourself

>>41791307
Bro, as someone who knew her back in Uni and found out who she was on her first stream, there is no reason to simp this hard. Even as beautiful as her voice is.

Also
>Incel
/r9k/ is down the hall faggot.

You can tell Lia realizes she fucked up midway through the conversation

> Lia: I want to traumatize my chat some more before the stream ends (politely trying to get retard to shut the fuck up and go away)
> retard can't read the room and dials up the flirting, asks her whether she wants to keep streaming forever or come meet him
> brief awkward silence as Lia gears turn over how fucked that question is
> she tries to save it without directly offending retard by talking about how she always just wants to stream all the time and saying she gets parasocial for chat and she misses them
>retard finally gets the message when guy in chat shits on him directly and leaves

>>41793267
Simp hard? nah i think she's stupid, I'm just emphasizing how retards think that not responding to a tweet = hell on earth.

>>41793150
>Ame
Depends on what you mean by hasn't fucked up again. Other than putting the surprise Altare appearance in Karaoke deep in the memoryhole after bringing it up a couple of times unprompted and trying to justify it (which is pretty much an apology when we are talking about someone as stubborn as Ame)
I am not sure if she believes she did anything wrong at all.

>I just see them as people, no differently from anyone else
>Sorry if it upsets you, I hope you can recover Ameway baby I do what I want
Reminder she said that not too long ago in response to a person complaining about too many collabs (but really complaining about tempus)
All that being said it's true she hasn't been anywhere near as chummy with tempus as she was around tempus1's debut, but thinking she has made learned her lesson or even thinks she did anything wrong is cope imo and that is coming from a fan who likes the way things are at the moment

>>41776961
Finana. She pissed off more than retarded unicorn-fags, she sided with twitter retards and trannies, and actually believes trap = trans. She's a moron. Educate yourselves.

>>41786382
>>41779851
Holy shit, this is actually my fantasy turned into reality, that Exo guy is my fucking hero!
Cucking everyone on stream, and to make it all even better, it was on a lewd asmr stream, so he basically targeting her cuck paypigs who will get hurt the most.
Dare I say... BASED?

>>41793397
>she tries to save it without directly offending retard by talking about how she always just wants to stream all the time and saying she gets parasocial for chat and she misses them

And in response to that the guy goes into a tangent about sometimes just needing to "go on adventures" and then come back to the chat afterwards, subtext being come on an adventure with me and tell your chat all about it when you get home
It is crazy how much damage that guy did in 20 minutes.

>>41794446
He's a retard, he could have fucked her if he contacted her anywhere else but a public chat in the middle of a stream.

Lia update: her first tweet after the yab? About a man
https://twitter.com/rinkouashelia/status/1618786880165937155

>>41794543
dunno who dunno what,
but proud of him to have destroy the carrer of a bitch so easily
LMAO

>>41776961
I'm lucky that I didn't watch any of them. I got to watch with popcorn in hand from the sidelines.

>>41794291
>t. exo

>>41776961
This one.

>>41776961
This one also iconic

>>41790048
That was mostly trolls trying to stir drama. The big shitstorm was the first collab and community posts, which drew the attention of dramatubers and Twitter/Reddit warriors. Then she had the unarchived member stream, THEN she did the tweet. By that time there was already a shitstorm and the fucking Kronii threads were hitting bump limit every 2 hours with 3X the normal IPs.

>>41789792
agree with this one

>>41793397
>didn't want to offend the person interrupting the stream
>tells fans making an issue of it to fuck off
Clearly she cares more about this "retard" than her actual fans. How do you think it would have gone down if it was one of her fans spam calling her?

>>41794866
You omitted something.

- The big shitstorm was the first collab and community posts, which drew the attention of dramatubers and Twitter/Reddit warriors.
>She did a stream a day or so after where she got about a dozen supas from catalogfags calling her and the blue man a couple
-Then she had the unarchived member stream
- THEN she did the tweet.

>>41779402
someone said petra is a man is this true? I need to know if I should kill myself after fapping to her

>>41777251
Didn't Kyo take a bus to her though?

>>41792265
Or maybe it was the memory of his dick in her mouth at the con that overrode her senses. You know the VA industry is no stranger to a little quid pro quo

>>41795087
it was terrible but she was trying to be polite to him because he's someone she might run into in real life and he has VA connections she wants
now she has seemingly cut him by unfollowing him on twitter and twitch and making a new specifically not to call her.
She could still be talking to him behind the scenes but if she's not clinically retarded she would be very angry at him right now.

>>41795091
Right there was a spamming of troll SCs by a bunch of grays, again dramaniggers and raiders.

>>41795351
I've only seen anger directed in one direction so far, and it sure as shit wasn't at him. Come up with all the cope you want, I wonder how the next con is gonna go lol

>>41779851
to be fair to her she just genuinely fucked up. It wasn't done out of malice/disgust like the others. Her tweets were bad but I think she was mostly refering to the people telling her to kys

>>41794811
to be fair Uki IS in fact gay

>>41796245
This was just like what the Kroniis were saying after she started down her road. You are ascribing good in all the places you can't see, it's so naive. Same as the Amelia fans between the announcement of EN Stars and the lifting of the collab ban. It has played out so many times, how many more times does it need to happen before people see the writing on the wall.

>>41796245
It's obvious she knew she fucked up and felt bad but that is not even the issue anymore, despite saying on stream that they met recently and he didn't know what kind of person she was so she was trying to "gaslight him into thinking she was normal" she had actually been in dms with him on her corpo chuuba account for months before they even met irl.

Cuck rrats will never go away and the way he acted on stream with her will do her no favours regardless of what the truth is. The guy fucked her over badly considering she is one of "those" kind of chuubas.

>>41797339
>>41796245
Why are you larping that she knew she fucked up? Her followup tweets show 0 remorse and only after she started getting shit on by the paypigs did her tiny brain click

>>41797519
Watch the stream from the >>41786516 point the dude leaves (around 5:30) that is a genuine breakdown and it goes on for pretty much the rest of the 2 hours and she ends the stream tearfully saying sorry and that she might have "ruined the whole mood"

If you want to say she was only upset because she knew she had fucked herself over and not because she felt bad then fair enough that is your prerogative but you can't watch that shit and tell me she didn't realise the magnitude of her fuckup minutes after the guy left the call.

I don't know that Lia bitch but I couldn't even watch all of that clip, couldn't even get 5 mins in.
The context anons here gave was enough to know how colossal of a fuck up it was and seeing it, if only for a few minutes, it is so much fucking worse.
Now hearing some of this other shit people are saying, it really does sound like she has met the guy IRL and we all knows where that shit leads.

Quite frankly I don't give a fuck what any of her fans do but I have left girls for less.
I was going to end this post here but fuck me, how could you fuck up in a stream like that? A celebration sort of stream where she's showing her appreciation to her fans who have showered her in money that ends up giving them the middle finger and making them feel like complete and utter cucks?
The fans may feel like I'm shit talking them and get overly defensive, as is normal whenever this shit happens and I comment, but I really feel for you nigs.
That guy is a cunt and that streamer is either giga retarded or malicious as fuck.

>>41777402
Too true

>>41779869
Asian upbringing

>>41777416
I blame the literal fat bastard groomer more than I blame her desu.

>>41797854
No no, you don't understand, she's the victim here. She's just dumb and he was a creep, she's only a grown ass woman you're not allowed to blame her for anything if she pretends to cry

>>41798134
Why? He didn't force her to pick up the call

I still believe in Lia. She's defended her fans being parasocial and I think she really does care about us. I don't care if I'm setting myself up for heartbreak. I'm not giving up on her yet.

>>41778225
>>41782769
>Gura saying Ame's real name
Wait what stream was this?

The Lia situation will require her to choose between her fans and that guy, publically.
She needs to set the record straight. Badly. Feels like she's choosing his feelings over her fans and that simply cannot fly.

>>41797854
EN indies desperately want to transform the vtuber scene into normie libcuck shit where the girls are free to do whatever they want

it wasnt a fuck up, it was a deliberate plan to further her agenda.

>>41798486
Fish is probably just trying to sweep things under the rug, and that includes Exo having anything to do with PC in the future.

>>41798381
He called her over and over again until she picked up, then proceeded to practically gloat on stream about how he knows her irl.
She's certainly partially at fault for being a retarded zoomer, but he's more in the wrong cause hes a literal discord groomer.

I unironically don't hold Lia accountable for her actions, she's not guilty by reason of insanity

>>41798522
Outside or that one Groomer Corpo that’s how the EN scene is.
If you want some E-thot experience, why not just pay for T3 mod on Twitch? What’s with the Gachi LARP?

>>41798486
She unfollowed him on two platforms and one of her mods banned him from chat probably on her request, I think that's enough of a statement.
It would be nice if she made some kind of vague comment in the next stream that validated her fans' feelings, but if she gets too specific it might invite tards to battle with each other in the chat over unicorn shit

>>41786284
>e-fucking
What in the underage homo shit is this
Stopped reading here because of how pathetic it is

Anyone got the clip where Tenma banned the guy?

>>41799012
it's at 5:56:40
she takes a break for a few minutes and as soon as she comes back Tenma bans him
she doesn't give any reaction

>>41798391
Jannies on a hair trigger today so I am not going to link you the actual vod even though I think it is still up and unedited but it is a very early ame gura minecraft collab on Gura's channel. I would tell you the timestamp but I can't even find it myself anymore, look for something like this.

>>41799113
wasn't it just a time out?

>>41776961
Obviously "educate yourself", which was an obnoxious statement - especially when she was wrong herself.
Ame's was good advice to genuine schizos who freak out over a streamer associating with male colleagues.
Kronii's is the biggest nothingburger of them all. I'm a huge fat loser, a total shut-in with no social skills, yet I still have lots of female friends. We all know women, don't pretend otherwise
No ide who the fourth person is

Easy , Kronii not only she went full retard during the whole arc , went to vent about it to a clipper channel and there she sat on the company and her JP senpai ( my oshi included) by blaming Idol Culture , bitch if you're so great door's open, graduate and make your own community free of "Incel losers and parasocials", however there is no money in that so she will stay leeching from Hololive for as long as possible .
Ame who cares stopped watching her long ago
Fish never watched her to begin with
Lia is very bad but also never watched her , so i dont care

>>41778841
me too , was a day 1 Kronie , never again

>>41798638
She literally had all the power, she could've silenced his calls and timed him out for being a shitter but she didn't. She took the call because it's what she wanted to do, because she cared more about his feelings than her chat's.

Bros... why are they all such spiteful whores...

>>41799388
this
Everyone else is a victim of faggots, while Fish was siding with faggots.

>>41799754
its all women, how can people not hate women in this day and age

call me an incel all you want, but i can assure you it aint involuntary

>>41799727
No you don't understand, the call answered itself and her pc became unresponsive so she couldn't do anything about it!

>>41776961
>Finana
Retarded, didn't understand the words and decided to jump on the twittertranny brigade without educating herself
>Ame
Spiteful, implying that your audience has better things to do than watch you is acceptable if you are a comedian and doing a self-depreciating bit. Not when you are an anime girl
>Kronnii
Ignorant, not just failing to know the audience but actually oblivious to the reason why "girlfriend/boyfriend" are used to implicate romantic connections. Normal platonic friendships between genders are very rare, generally the guy is trying to fuck the girl.
>Lia
All of the above.
Retarded for accepting a call from a nobody on stream. Ignorant as to how much damage a nobody can cause on stream if you let them run their mouth. Spiteful for not understanding why your audience hates both you and the nobody for doing this on a special ASMR stream they donated for.

Imma be honest never expected Phase to come in on top, but they have been stealing the spotlight recently, good job

>>41797757
>genuine breakdown
If this was a genuine breakdown then Pippa should have been committed after that one MMO stream

>>41799958
Male vtubers are even worse

>>41800231
https://youtu.be/APFPkz5PEq4
Check 3:14:00, that is a woman that is conflicted and crying. Lia was just afraid of consequences

>>41786516
>28:46
HOLY PROPHET

>>41786382
So the idiot didnt realize "Lia" is separated character from the person he knows and started babbling about IRL stuff while the streamer was too dumb to DMing right there and then to tell him to shup up or just outright drop the call?

>>41800554
I avoided watching her until now because I hate kiwishitters but this is quality entertainment

>>41800961
KEK

>>41800554
Watching Pippa cry makes me happy

It just hit me that the people in this thread who want an "apology" from the girls they don't even watch are just like people on Twitter when someone they don't even watch offends them

>>41803104
I don't want apologies. I want good talent.

>>41803309
Yeah, crying on 4chan will certainly get you that

>>41803104
Most of them are just bitter women, jealous of more successful girls. They just want to take them down a peg to feel better about their own miserable selves.

>>41800961
KINO