/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan God, i pray to Thee. Please let this thread be free from any schizos.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

Featuring biittertaste! If you see this, apologies for the hornyposting of your children /here/. The OP image is Serena Celsius, and she's malding over biitter not following her on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SerenCeles/status/1617515763757355009

Have this Valita art from Dobure herself in the meantime.

>>41615661
Amin.

https://twitter.com/SeliaAisnith/status/1617537606564339719?
We missed this yesterday but wdyt about this usual AKA shenanigans? Is this pro pituber behaviour?

>>41615814
This is not "shenanigan". The commission is for CF merch and the artist ghosted Selia without much news from them. As if that's not unprofessional enough, that snarky remarks about "kapok diginiin sama client Indo" is idiotic. What Selia demanded is simple, for the artist to communicate with their client.

If I'm not wrong, this is not the first time Selia got ghosted by artists. She's clearly very pissed off right now. It can't be helped, really.

Noombers

Why are most Indonesian vtubers femboys that can't wait to tell you how awful their existence is?

>>41616389
There's Indonesian femboy VTubers?

i want chloe or miti ass

>>41616518
plenty of them

Naikaze being the famous one

>>41616264
Kinda hope there's one for Indonesian VTubers. Where do you gain this data from?

>>41616545
No Miti ass, have Miti cat instead.

>>41616572
>Where do you gain this data from?
Newfag-chama.....

>>41616760
Look, I know it's from the /#/ thread. But, I want to know which site you visit to harvest all of these numbers.

>>41616848
Lurk moar

Timnasposting anchor time

Timnas /warkop/ is now in musyawarah for everything VTL4
>Wanna add new players? ikuzo!
>Wanna model updates? ikuzo!
>Wanna new chants? ikuzo!
>New anthems and goalhorns? ikuzo!
>Wanna train yourself into the next STY? LFG!!

As always check the team and league wiki + our sourceposting for more infos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//warkop/
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_4
https://rentry.org/p8ger

Not much updates from the last thread so instead I'll shill this instead
>/hfz/ are planning "Lord of the Board"
>if happens, there's a chance for timnas gulat /warkop/ to be formed
>so if you want it for real, fill this penjajakan and be honest with it
https://forms.gle/LL5GFkBTmZKQ7CX7A

>Players
In
>Rapist Cilus
>Green Ui (Chloe Pawapua)
>Komandan (Silvia Valleria)
>Suisei Lokal (Deidey)
>AKA Miku (Caerula Aki)
>CRUSHED BY OPPAI LOLI (Alenka Inventra)
>Pay2Incline (Paid Clipfags)
>IndoWomble (Manca?)

Out
>Harem Master
>Drama Mastermind
>Anjing Gawean
>Le Pinneaple
>Kobo Killer
>Kontole
>/u/chuuba

Renamed
>Ucagi -> Groomed Loli
>Si Otan (treerat) -> Cute Aussie Hagsmith (Goriela)
>Nasi Kecap -> Ollie's secret boyfriend

>New Chants
https://youtu.be/GhjrkWSlXpM
https://youtu.be/zJ9Ls40zyHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RM6BM-sRko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA_XSYN0uz4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyivhDxcAe4
From 11:47 to 12:14
https://youtu.be/UTLllgvc6r8
https://youtu.be/8-u7dt0neFQ
https://youtu.be/Fj6PV5HVNw8

Goalhorn
>Epel https://youtu.be/sLQAGX_w0-4

We only have around a week left to adjust our team so make your voice count!

>>41616848
he doesn't know, he just took it from numbers thread

>>41617300
kek

>emel
>tiktod live
good combo for incline or nah?
https://twitter.com/DeviNalawati/status/1617852018395340801

>>41618937
>compare Devi's view numbers on Tiktok with Alenka (https://www.tiktok.com/@alenkainventra))
>the gap is too far
Bro...

>>41619112
Grim

>>41619112
This is the problem for all IDcorpos but holo, how'd you trickle down your spearhead's popularity into others, the moment an IDcorpo can crack the code to own >2 spearheads is what'll make the difference in IDcorpo race

>>41619275
I want to say that you can differentiate your talent based on different demands like HoloID 3rd Gen. did. So, it's individual efforts without brand power like Hololive. But... I don't know if there are IDcorpos out there who already do this but still failed.

Upcoming new ID VTuber. Her name is Cia. The debut date is still unknown.
>followed by well-known ID VTubers (Cupang, Cae, Gema, Reynard, Amarynn, etc.) and famous local artists (Xeapher, Kyler Alzura a.k.a. Mama Potat, Clozy, etc.)
>her YT channels already have several cover songs and it's quite good

Any information about this girl?

>>41619676
>Cia
>Is a penguin
Amicia Michella's identity...

>>41619676
>oldfag utaite
>part of Sagi's sirkel (that one who tuned tons of IDchuuba covers)
>unrelated to >>41619970 but rather a peafowl instead?

>>41619275
It's all about branding. Sure ID3 can elevate the whole Holo ID to relevancy and attracting non Hololive fans, but them being part of Hololive was the first catalyst to make that possible.
If they debuted together as one gen in say, DigiKagi, they would be 200 ccv vtubers at most.

Branding is also the reason Niji ID failed, Nijisanji not having significant presence outside of Japan until Luxiem was the main reason they can't compete with Holo ID.
So yeah that anon was right when he said it's not worth it to be a vtuber if you're not part of Holo ID unless you're polishing your CV or just doing it as a hobby.
At least for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MT89xX6-0
holo x niji-exID, or alien and robot.

Possibly Miyu
https://twitter.com/MeedyAudia

>>41619970
have you listen to the covers yet?

>>41620433
A metric to measure whether or not a VTuber has entered "mass consciousness" is by looking at cosplays. Miti is significant enough that cosplayers started cosplaying as her. It's not a small phenomenon, too. No other indies or the up-and-coming corpos have a branding this strong, yet. I'm waiting for someone to change the status quo.

my nolep self finally made a Facebook account. I have mixed feelings right now. On one hand I feel like a fucking prophet or esper. On the other hand I kinda wish forever being kept in the dark, i wished I never knew abi or that vtuber shitposting group.

>>41621539
Tell us more about your experience, especially about you "feeling like an esper".

>>41620433
Answer me anon, do you think ID won't be as competitive as EN with new players like phase and idol slowly threatening EN big3's throne?

I really wanted to see better fight for ID, even more after Niji gave up, but I wonder if you seeing the same thing with me that the curse of brand building in ID is "penokohan", IDs don't give a fuck about group branding, they value individuals more

>>41620433
>Nijisanji not having significant presence outside of Japan until Luxiem was the main reason they can't compete with Holo ID
As I said, individualism is what IDs value more so it can't be group branding problems when MAHA5 can depend on Andi-Alia and gromercorp can survive solely on Sena despite their high turnover, the problem with NijiID was that they refuse acknowledge that penokohan exist by not picking a spearhead for their group

>>41621804
We definitely have a strong brand loyalty anon. Hololive and (formerly) Nijisanji have a big following that support the group more than the individuals. Also look at other place like Football, a bunch of die hard fans that are supporting the club no matter who the player is. For the zoomer version we have RRQ and Evos (i learned a lot about ML from my cousins recently, and if you look at the last international tournament you can find a bunch of Evos's fans mocking RRQ even tho Evos literally failed to qualify).

The problem for small corpo is how you build the brand? It's hard but definitely can be done, ID3 is the best example. If you follow ID3 debut, they actually feels like a different brand. Kobo is the spearhead, but people still knows Zeta and Kaela as "Kobo's friend". A bunch of normies only know them and not gen 1 nor 2. This is why even till this day Zeta still have a great subs growth. Also despite being an EN-lite, Kaela still has a big ID fans.

Tisu....

>>41622650
I'm sorry OP but I'm going /pol/ here..

I admit that brand loyalty is huge in likes of futbol or esports, but I'd argue that in case of non-holo pitubers, it's not like picking a sport team to support but rather like choosing a parpol in election, that's why I mentioned Sena before since it's basically a red bull party situation, much like the red bulls, most people hates the ones who runs Yume, but as long as their by-product is good, then people will indirectly be loyal to that brand

>>41623017
At least give her an expression or something

>>41623605
Kobo hasn't yet received her 3D model.

>>41623665
She can move her head

Taiwanese anon here, want to ask about Kobo saying "angbao" as red envelope, is this only for the one with southern chinese ancestry?
Any other HoloID use the same term?

>>41623812
Everyones in Indo called it angpau / angpao

>>41623564
Even in politics you have some people who absolutely loves / hates a certain parpol. I remember because when my governor that're from Nasdem got caught, a bunch of outsiders that doesn't like pemerintah mock the parpol even tho he literally allied with oposisi in my province's election.

Sorry OP, also please don't ban me meidos

>>41623017
That's what you got when you're lazy (no, her family is not an excuse because if she is not too idealistic she would get much more money and easily help her useless family).

>>41622650
>>41623564
In football and e-sports, what you see are people working together to win the game. In VTuber, what you see most of the time is an anime girl doing something to entertain you. That's why it's easy to see VTubers as inherently individualistic entertainment, in terms of who becomes the face of the audience.

In Hololive case, I think they intentionally built their brand and utilized their status as early players in the VTuber industry. Shiny Smile Story, Holofest, Hololive Alternative, HoloGra... You name it. That's why VTubers fans value Hololive as a big brand: YAGOO and co. drilled it to the heads of Holofans intentionally.

>>41624413 (me)
To build your brand, you need additional manpower to do. You need to find manpower who are willing to make the VOD, make a brand-wide song and MV like SSS, run your official agency YT channel and SNSs and make other projects that elevate your brand, like HoloCure (yes, it's a voluntary project) or HoloAlt...

The question is, do our IDcorpos have that? At least a portion of whatever sources Hololive has?

>>41624413
What about my point about ID3? If you follow the early Kobo boom with normies, you can clearly see there are some comments about Zeta and Kaela too in anything Kobo. Even tho Moona and Ollie probably more popular in ID, people associate Kaela and Zeta more as "Kobo's friend" and this certainly help ID3 grow to the powerhouse they are today (All ID3 have higher ccv than Moona at their DSG collab last week for example). You can clearly see a different fanbase that follow the ID3 "brand".

The initial popularity of Kobo and ID3 are carried by the hololive's brand, but their explosion soearheaded by Kobo in May last year are built by themselves with their own brand. Other example is there are tons of new clippers that only clips Kobo, some of them also clips a couple of Zeta and Kaela.

>>41625306 (me)
Even tho Cover already has a name and brand, they still managed to built an entirely new brand that are separate and target a new audiences. I think the problem with other corpos is the gap between their spearhead and other genmates is too big. In the case of ID3, all 3 are good members with their own unique talent and personality so that they can absorb the newcomers that their spearhead (Kobo) brings.

>>41620995
A quick scroll through her minimal opsec timeline, I think you're wrong anon

>>41625306
>>41625506
ID3 are tricky questions, for sure. My guess is YAGOO also intentionally did try to explore more about the Indonesian market, since many HoloID fans complained about HoloID girls being EN-lite so much. You can only do so much with your fanbase, after all. Kobo got the "FINALLY THE TRUE HOLOID GIRL" moment, HoloID fans are being riled up thus tweaking the YT algorithm, and normies started to come to her. I think the individual effort and brand effect are in full force hand-on-hand and you can't ignore one for another.

About the gap between Kobo and Zeta-Kaela... What if the question is about how much the numbers are needed to pass a certain threshold (like the Sana Line), not about the race to the highest number?

>>41624773
Idk anon, I think the problem isn't in manpower but at decoding the right strategy for ID, if a juggernaut like Niji gave up on ID, I think it sends a message that no one has a surefire way yet to compete in ID, I'd argue that even holo was like that until ID3 and what works with ID3 might not gonna work for others

>>41626270
>I think the problem isn't in manpower but in decoding the right strategy for ID
My wandering and curious mind want to answer far beyond what many people may think, like how Indonesians value modern entertainment, how much money Indonesians want to spend on some form of entertainment, what Indonesian may expect from something like VTubers, and its comparison with other people like Japanese or American, and many more. But, I guess it's too much for ignorant people like me awikwok.

>>41625981
>About the gap between Kobo and Zeta-Kaela...
I don't think you understand what i said. I'm talking about how the normies that Kobo brings still knows ID3, that cover manage to build "ID3 brand". Yes Kobo is the main actor in her explosion arc, but Zeta and Kaela didn't get left out on social media / clips. They still get the recognition even tho those normies don't watch them. Now compare this to other corpos with 1 spearhead, like with Sena for example, you very rarely see a comments talking about her and her colleagues.

>>41627862
About that, I won't surprised if that's what YAGOO wants and he did set it up properly for the condition you describe to happen. It may sound like he's some kind of puppeteer, but numbers (and said condition) don't lie. Debut three or four talents in one generation and pick one as the spearhead? Exploit other talents trait like Zeta with her sweet voice and Kaela's autism on the game so people have more reason to notice them than just "oh, it's just Kobo's friends"? Let the normies also exploit said trait so they know more, like the Zeta-Bang Al shenanigan? Who knows.

>>41627862
>>41628709
uncle roger sent her a video for her birthday.
i bet normalfags noticed her too considering his fame.

>>41628913
>her
i mean zeta.

>>41622650
talk about niji Ex-ID, i saw something about them doomposting this morning on /#/. what happened?

>>41628913
You can just pay 500$ for that
https://www.cameo.com/mrnigelng

>>41629285
I don't know, even on Twitter I saw Niji-exID fans doomposting the previous night, too. Don't tell me this is another graduation.

https://twitter.com/LarasatiObelia/status/1617931106602586113
Scrolling Twitter on midnight, I found the VTuber I used for the OP image 2 threads ago drinking milk using dot bayi. W-what do you think of this, /warkop/? I am conflicted right now.

>>41633583
Ehh, it's not that weird of a kink imo, be glad we're not entering ringo or meat tier yet

>>41627862
>What does make ID3 becomes well-known among normalfags
Just like Myth, distinct characteristics from each other just like >>41628709 said (think about it, it's also what makes HoloJP3 used to stand out from the rest) but the cohesion is far greater with ID3 thanks to how tight-knit HoloID as a whole is. Now let's take a look at our local corpos, what does make the rest of their member distinct from each other, especially from their spearhead? I don't think it's that significant that will make any impression in normalfags' mind

>>41626270
I tend to believe even until this day that the reason for the merger was not because Anikara bleeding too deep to the point when they can't sustain it but because they want to have a cleaner portfolio for IPO I mean they got several sponsored stream in the past and even until now still got decent amount of donos so to say they couldn't compete against other corpos is not really that accurate (except for ofc, against HoloID)
>>41633583
Might be her way to dogwhistle us but still need more evidence

>>41626851
>Modern entertainment
Like what? Even mobile games can be considered as one. But if what you do mean is streaming, then it's still a niche hobby but also growing and slowly
> Indonesians' willingness to pay for entertainment
Go outside, anon and you will see how some kuli that works for construction near your house spend two-thirds of their total earnings from the said project to a famous biduan or maybe just talk with your friend online and ask them how much they loan from loan service for ml's rare skin or pulling gacha in genchink
>What Indonesian expect from vtuber
I don't have any idea but I think it'd be more positive than how it's in the west since we're not really shaming weeb culture as hard as they were in the past. But one thing for sure is that both nips and westerns expect chuuba as how streamer is (but ofc with a different flavor since their streaming culture really grew in a different direction)

I just find it pathetic that the exids are apparently tweeting diss to Mika for ever realizing their situation and make her own rope to free herself from out of it.

>>41638521
Qrd? What happened?

>>41638521
I mean, you are allowed to believe any rrat you want about anyone.
But after the gift exchange stream, I refuse to believe any rrat based on supposed offscreen bad relations with Mika.
>>41629285
>>41632825
>>41640982
At the moment nothingburger, just the usual pattern of livers vaguely venting on twitter, fans panicking, but this time the livers found it funny and decided to egg them on with increasingly cryptic tweets. Then they dropped the act after like 3-4 hours.

>>41641938
qrd about this situation? is graduation coming or smth?

>>41644452
Zea will graduate to marry me

In case any ID girl was thinking about applying for WACTOR auditions, be informed the CEO is memory holing the biggest talent (Hina Misora) for who knows what reason and doesn't plan to give any announcement.
Now today the second biggest talent (Rurine Luna) went on hiatus and a poor excuse of a post without her particular writing patters was announcing she would take a break. Now she just updated her rm bio with some cryptic message hinting how bad thigs are.
It happened already with two other talents (Kurari Rose and Tsukito Hana) where they just went MIA and months later appeared in reincarnations, no announcement from the agency whatsoever.
And there were other two talents who are MIA and assumed to not return by the fanbase (Lea and Saohime Yue)
This is blacker company than what we though, don't fall in their trap.
Also since the CEO knows girls leave after one year he changed the contracts to be 2 years instead.

wake up!

Been liking what DigiKagi wanna do with their direct, giving more things to learn about the world around our chuubas, for the next one, they'll invite toge and livium for gaming BTSs and also chuubas can get a shout out if you want to share your stream/content, naisu!

morning

>>41646214
Thankfully you don't have to speak ID nor being an Indonesian nor living in Indonesia to join Wactor ID. That means there are a bunch of EU/NA/LATAM girls that can join instead!!

>>41646214
Akira should just let his agency go bankrupt instead of receiving from Bilibili
But seriously this anon is right, in case there is still someone who's hesitating or wondering. You can find the detail in the archive if you really want to dig down further

>>41660103
she's forever based for me for singing this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcN8ynd_tjg

but seriously, what does the name Pawapua means? Padang Jawa Papua? If so, then angkat tangan kiri, sis!!!

>>41663943
>Chloe Pawapua
>Chloe Padang Jawa Papua

>>41615814
>>41616067
"Damn, this is personal matter & could be resolved behind the scene, but this artist is an a-hole and really pissing me off. So let's just straight cancel him on my vtuber account and bully him with my own fans & circle, LOL" -professional project manager maybe

>>41615814
>>41616067
>>41665900
https://artistsbeware.info/beware/

>>41663943
>>41664071
Well she retweeted picrel so it's kinda canon I guess kek

mass vtuber graduation in february (half of them will be reincarnated)

source: my dream

>>41663943
She loves to sing indie songs every time she does a karaoke stream. It's really nice since almost every chuuba that I know only sings the same J-Pop or pop music both from western and Indonesia for thousands of times

Rules ends with "a"

Chloe Pawai Budaya
Chloe Pawang Hujan
Chloe Western Papua
Chloe Super Powa
Chloe Orang Jawa
Chloe Pawaa Dominicana
Chloe Padang Merdeka
Chloe Panjang Mobil Avanza
Chloe Pawa Indonesia Engineering
Chloe Khyber Pakhtunkhwa
Chloe Papua New Guinea
Chloe Toraja Mamasa
Chloe Roti Pawa
Chloe Irian Jaya

>>41673676
*rules: ends with "a" with few exceptions (example, there is actually a company called Pawa Indonesia Engineering)

if we can get to 50+ of chloe's name (just like towa) i will post it in twitter

>>41674028
Chloe Puteri Indonesia
Chloe Mojang Sunda
Chloe Kutilang Dara (she looks busty)
Chloe Sari Rasa
Chloe Baacharu Yuuchuubaa

>>41673676
Chloe PawaPuan Maharani
Chloe Passport Swedia
Chloe Pangan Lokal Indonesia
Chloe Pernah Puasa

ID kimono teaser is up
3rd-5th February
https://youtu.be/bfwtCOG68dM

>>41675824
LET'S FUCKING GO

>>41675824
HYPE HYPE HYPE

>>41675824
Kobo's silhouette is something else

>>41675824
As usual, gen 2 with their almost impossible to draw/cosplay traits lmafo

>>41673676
There's no specific rule besides that "a" right? Then:
Chloe Biduan Pantura
Chloe Si Paling Senja
Chloe Pikiran Kemana-mana
Chloe Pemudi Pramuka
Chloe Skedul Mana
Chloe Penjelajah Dunia
Chloe Panutan Bangsa
Chloe Penanganan Kecelakaan Pertama
Chloe Pawang Buaya
Chloe Pesona Nusantara
Chloe Jambrud Khatulistiwa
Chloe Masih Lemot Aja

>>41678721
I can already feel the sovl

>>41679939
Why is she holding swastikas?

>>41680141
Watched too much tokyo revengers

>>41679055
But Anya...

>>41675824
Woah Hype !!!
>>41679939
kok kayak anj- ahk!

Someone who used my current IP was banned for 'traumatized by walrus' posting wtf

>>41680587
FUCK I CAN'T UNSEE IT NOW

>>41680587
Try to post it on Kobo's Twitter. Surely she can hold this as usual banter, right?

>>41680740
I mean it's not something uncommon to meme new outfit prediction for any members

>>41680740
Ofc she can she loves meme after all

>>41680740
>Try to post it on Kobo's Twitter
I don't have a Twitter account, please do it on my behalf

>>41681242
I've been bonked by someone I know because of the containment breaker before.

>>41681353
Just use a burner account bro

>>41680494
Feels like home

>>41681353
Goomba please...

>>41681353
By who? Aleph don't tell me you are part of Mine's circle

>>41681647
By someone I know that saw my containment breaker's tweet, then proceed to send it to my Discord's DM and scold me there awikwok. And no, I wish I never be involved with Mine's circle.

>>41681353
If you got bonked because of this, you'd ask yourself why are you with them in the first place and reflect upon it carefully

>>41681647
if i'm in her clique i wouldn't dare to commentate the /warkop/ matches to begin with, speaking of which...
>>41617224
>those name changes
look, my vtuber account is not that active and i use it only to unwind, but those new names are yab. i'm scared if i have to say it out loud, even though i'm not obligated to do that.

>>41682378
Susan probably won't like Cilus but others shouldn't be that yab really

>>41682484
i'm not concerned about susan, i'm concerned on what non-/warkop/ posters think of "groomed loli" or "ollie's secret boyfriend". at least drama mastermind is out of the picture.

>>41682484
>>41682614
NTA (nor I'm wacananon) but if that's the case, should we change those names or is it okay?

>>41682791
eh, no need. there's an infinitesimal chance someone will scrutinize it, and it's not like that person can cancel or sue anons here. i can get around it by not mentioning the yab name, anyway.

>>41682891
I suggest you can just use their chuuba names when streaming, tell them it's Chloe or Alenka or Sena with them, they'll understand better that way

>>41682791
>implying Outdonesians care about ID VTuber outside Blue Doritos and Gay Pac-Man
/morig/ has Doxxbeat Prime that's a doxxing material. Also, the only time YT has to remove any divegrass match like this is /pol/ match. We'll be okay.

>>41641938
Derem was venting a fair bit on her free talk stream a couple of days ago as well.

Incidentally, she's streaming A Space for the Unbound right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOEUyjDhScg

>>41615504
QRD on that Indonesian-looking guy who always posted on /vt/?
>>/vt/thread/S41623137#p41623295
I can guess he fucked around with /vt/sisters and got fucked himself. But, I don't know about the detail of him.

>>41683015
Anon, Doxxbeat Prime was coined in the furst place because Mori loves to say something that might lead to doxing her fellow branchmates or even herself and the definition of dox between/vt/ and normalfags are different. But if you say it will be alright as long there's no /pol/ there then okay
>>41683851
I don't have the full picture of it but it was actually a pinoy who was taking a photo with Bae's cosplayer

>>41683926
I mean the model itself which is her RM persona wearing Mori's costume and mask with Mori's face on it. If /morig/ can keep getting away with it, so does /warkop/. As long as someone doesn't show Sena's photos on CF, it should be fine. /vt/sisters are allergic to the so-called "hybrid VTuber", too. About Aleph's problem, that's on him, to be honest.

Or, as long as PV dwellers don't watch /warkop/ matches.

>>41683851
i thought he's a flip?
>>41683926
so he is a flip

>>41684114
>Her RM persona wearing Mori's costume
As I said before, while it's consider as dox by /vt/, it actually isn't by the rest of the world since it's from her public account meanwhile rape and grooming underageb& are more sensitive topic in general (I don't really care about Ollie's BF or whatever tho). However since you said it'd be alright and Aleph himself >>41682891 said he can "ngakalin" this problem, then I won't pursue this any longer
>>41684790
Yes he is a flip I remember someone posted the full photo of that picture first time in global and then someone gave gave a explanation about what that was

>>41684790
>>41685175
Alright, he's a Flip. I can feel a bit better. Then, QRD on this guy on MV?
https://youtu.be/ipFGfuxGQ_c?t=152

>>41685550
I don't know, but thanks for reminding me of this guy.

>>41673676
Chloe Gadis Kembang Desa
Chloe Mata Giok Lentera
Chloe Penakluk 7 Samudra
Chloe Peng-ghosting terhandal Se Indonesia
Chloe Saksi Hari Tua
Chloe Tak Kunjung Tiba
Chloe Fokus Yuk Bisa
Chloe Darimana Aja
Chloe Si Paling Manja
Chloe Majikan Mocca
It's really hard not to think about sweet nothing when I type this
Tf is Kyber Pakhtubkhwa & Roti Pawa?

>>41685550
>That guy with backpack
Wasn't that photo from /asean/? But don't cite me on this my memory of that picture is very vague

Idk why we should care if Aleph can say the name or not. I know some of us want chuubas to stream it, but it's not a priority. I personally don't think it's a good idea and his stream is not that enjoyable anyway.

We need to make impression to the caster and EOPs viewers, our name so far are way too boring and i don't think we crossed any line that are too yab so far with the name.

>>41685966
>his stream is not that enjoyable anyway
not wrong. considering not commentating anymore as i get busier with life and have less desire to stream, anyway. just go wild with the names, anons.

>>41685966
Meh, the bad impression we got from others wasn't in our names (and it's not like they'd care much really) but our chants, we need more proper chants and not musics

>>41686343
both are boring imo. i like our current chant tho (except the epel one it's just okay)

>>41686413
>epel
i mean sena, it's kinda weird

Indos up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Kal7UQw7U&feature=youtu.be
Alenka VS pajeet fud

>>41688123
is that a mosquito ...

>>41685887
roti pawa = roti di sulawesi
Kyber Pakhtubkhwa = pakistani province or something

CHLOE ASS
I WANT CHLOE ASS

>>41689163
Then get in here
https://youtu.be/_xPZwpqUfMU
>>41689107
Oh I see thank you so much, anon

>>41689236
Kawi and Chloe should do GETCHA! cover.

>>41689107
>Kyber Pakhtubkhwa
Isn't that where Khyber Pass is? They are famous for their guns and gunsmiths. The guns produced there can range from actually decent to something that will blow in your hand when you fire it.

>>41616264
>>41616572
>>41616760
>>41616848
>I want to know which site you visit to harvest all of these numbers.
It is from the numbers thread, where some anon (which might or might not be the one replying to you right now) posts it on occasion.

Here is a recent one for kaigai not from EN (includes ID, KR, TW and whatnot).

>>41690009
Oh, and the source for the numbers is a collage of numbers from vrabi, vstats, holostats and niji-mado that said anon makes and creates the tables

>>41689163
NEED ASS

>>41689288
I seconded this

https://youtu.be/p8WUBoKuJ04
Damn, she's gud

Midnight bump.

night bocil

Indos down

You'll watch her don't you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH3dpWeRe-k

pagi awanama

One week later....

>kobo 1M in less than 2 weeks
>rainych still at 253k in 3 weeks
remember kobo = rainych rrat at her debut? yeah, maybe rainych should really join hololive afterall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiw9Z1I1AcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsE9jJ1UOU4

>>41716999
zen should step up his games and beat these new guy

>>41719056
she's boring as a streamer tho. maybe if hololive opens vsinger ID (they won't) but it's actually a vsinger this time not a streamer like irys

>>41719351
Kek
He's been orbiting HoloID for years with minimum results. A major L for local male chuubas, can't even leech properly.
I still wonder why m-chan would let tempiss and tempoop latch onto HoloID when the girls numbers are anemic as fuck. Isnt better for tempoop to leech Gura instead?

>>41721751
gura doesn't stream.

>>41721839
She's scared. Maybe Fauna is fine

>>41721751
>Tempoop leeching Gura
The catalog will be on fire for several days.

For reference, HoloID girls always welcoming Holostars ever since the first generation. I think the early homobeggar hailed that as some relief from so-called "idol culture." Idol culture is a meme for HoloID girls, hence you see girls there asking for Get Well Soon or Get Some Help.

Fun fact: Risu still hasn't changed her Twitter banner. Go check what's the picture.

>>41719351
Zen hanyalah alat
https://youtu.be/UjLI5ypGB0s

>>41716999
You mean Kobo will groom all the new boys into her valorant's slaves??

>>41722082
Kek i know. I'm a Prisuner afterall.
It's just pathetic to see them resorting to HoloID girls as major collab partners when most HoloEN girls are ignoring them.
How many westoids are seeing HoloID girls are for pump and dump?

>>41722309
Yeah and sacrificing her numbers in the process.

>>41722400
Who knows? You should already know that HoloID girls already trad wrangle their audience so they can do whatever they want, right? Especially, Risu. That's why I won't be surprised if the rrat that Kronii wondering how HoloID girls never had issues with males collab during her yab is true.

Unironically, I think by trad wrangling her audience (a.k.a. pick their audience), HoloID girls are better in terms of mental health. Hence, you can see them streaming more constantly than HoloEN.

>>41722843
>How many westoids are seeing HoloID girls are for pump and dump?
Uproar also collab more with HoloID than HoloJP girls.

>>41722400
>>41723040
Wait a minute, you make it sounds like HoloID girls are just there to relieve the sexual urge of Holostars boys... Just like the old days... That's even worse than being Pekora's romusha workforce...

>>41722843
An eye for an eye.
If HoloID tanked down because of Tempus, then HoloEN should also have the same faith as us.
Our Gura (Kobo) is welcoming tempus with open arms but Gura herself just ignored them.
HoloEN could tank and perish in the process for all I care, Tempus is EN management ideas they should take full responsibility for it.
All i want is balance.

>>41723242
Comfort women for StarsJP and StarsEN. We haven't moving on from the colonization days. The worst part of it m-chan is their brothel mama

>>41719056
It's a much better cover. It also just passed shion's version.

>>41723522
not when the girls themselves are the one that are horny and groomed them. it's actually reversed colonialism

>>41723609
Oh nyo 'indochads', they hate indog males kek

Instead of wasting your time /here/, you guys should've spent your time learning from ID girls how to groom chuubas and start doing that yourself.

>>41723864
>Groom chuubas
We are not creeps unlike westoids and wannabe westoid ID girls

>>41723864
Shut up, Yuta.

of course it's/#/ tourist should've known it the moment they start talking about numbers

>>41723799
it's time to release holostarsID before EN3

How did ID1 avoid getting groomed when they were still 3view and fairly isolated, which make them vulnerable?

>>41724031
>Let's hire 2views holos

>>41724069
By grooming smaller indies. Newfag won't know how ID1 already popularize the waifu sharing system before Ollie is even a thing.

>>41724097
that's still considered as success for holostar

>>41724097
StarsID would collab with Kobo and inclines together. ID fans are thirsty for kino banter in Indonesian. Look at how popular Naplive's clip interacting with holos.

>>41724031
>HolostarsID
>Zen is exposed to HoloID audience
>Also the same Zen is still borderline 2views
Yeah no, no market for that

>>41724230
>StarsID would collab with Kobo and inclines together. ID fans are thirsty for kino banter in Indonesian.
Zen is the living proof that it's not true
>Naplive's clip interacting with holos.
Fleshtuber, enough said

>>41724237
unless holoid management retarded, they would never hire a male id vtuber. all of them are failure
hire someone like kobo who never exposed with this vtubing shit, they'll create their own culture and audience. they'll unironically more success than holoID

>>41724237
>Had to write pages of proposal and months of waiting just for 1 collab
yeah i wonder why it didn't work

>>41724355
Or maybe because the fact that the interaction is constant intead of once every blue moon (and the fact that his interaction is much more funny than boring Zen).

Manca is not a fleshtuber

>StarID
For what purpose? So a bunch of IDsimps can enter in hope to have a chance with the IDgirls? Because there is no way they are going to succeed as vtuber

>>41724435
t.zen
>>41724416
A brotuber would never apply to be an anime dude. That normal streamer is guaranteed to be a HoloID simp/groomer like Naplive

>>41724416
This reminds me of that 'Indonesian Vox' that our femanon found. What's his name? Isn't he really popular, even his Indonesian video too?

>>41724728
>A brotuber would never apply to be an anime dude.

>>41724577
they already hired manca and his cronies as the first gen of holostarsID, that's why he's rarely active nowadays

>>41724615
This

>>41724792
>>41724814
Manca would never be an idol. He can't say memek kontol jembut freely if he's in

>>41724197
None of the starsJP are 2view, anon

>>41724615
>Implying that Indonesian weebs would be accepted
Kobo already brings exposure to normies. Now is the perfect time to brings quality indo males into the scene instead of our current world full of filthy weebs.

>>41724921
>filthy weebs.
Why are (you) here?

>>41724888
>Kontol!!
>Eh sorry gaes, gaboleh toxic yah tadi keceplosan jangan ditiru
Easy. Even Mchan lets Kobo just be free on her collab with Manca. The only reason why she didn't is because she's a women and our culture still think that's a taboo.

>>41724979
Because i watch vtubers, not anime

>>41724921
holoid management should already take a note about kobo's audience. I believe kobo said she wants holostarsID and holoid management really taking it into consideration. ollie was worried tho, she's afraid something like this >>41724615 would actually happened. that's why they shouldn't hire holostarsID through audition, but through direct scouting

Oh god it's this loop again. Looks like i need to change my ritual next time.

oh hey, its starsid on the menu, again

INSTEAD OF LOOPING STARSID WHY DON'T YOU GUYS JUST STREAM OVERDOSE
LET'S GOOO 2 MILLION VIEWS
https://youtu.be/iiw9Z1I1AcE

>EN
>Don't bring normalfags in, they will destroy hololive culture, they should only hire people who are knowledgeable about weeb and idol culture
>ID
>Don't bring the weebs in, they are cringe and filthy, they should only hire non-disgusting normalfags instead
What caused the different opinion?

Bruh
I brought up that HoloID is collabing too much with Holostars and i want m-chan to tone it down, at least not too often compared to HoloEN-StarsEN and HoloJP-StarsJP collabs, for a good image. I just don't want HoloID girls to be seen as whores or free to use town bicycles. I expect you all agreeing with me.
But your solution is to support StarsID instead
really? REALLY?
>They hate indog males
Did this sentence hurt you so much?

>>41725477
different culture obviously. it's the same with having a boyfriend in the west means they already have sex, meanwhile having boyfriend in indonesia doesn't mean they're having sex since it's still considered as taboo

>>41725477
>ID
Self-hating weebs in denial

>>41725859
why do you care so much about westoid opinion? why do you really need their validation? they actually mindboke your brain KEK

>>41725297
I wasn't the one who bring up StarsID first. I dunno why it turned out this way
t. Tempiss and Tempoop baiter

>>41726076
HoloID girls hates indog males

>>41721302
What is her number when streaming?

>>41726222
that's why they don't get a good numbers
>kobo collab with indo males
>easy 30k ccv
>kobo stop collab with indo males and collab with EN and JP males instead
>recline hard

People wanting StarID is either
>horny male fantasizing about getting in and having discord sex with their HoloID oshi everyday
>male indo chuuba who is waiting for a chance to jump into hololive ship
>female chuuba looking for target to groooms
>people who actually want to watch StarID
Take your pick

>>41725297
This anon is the culprit >>41724031

>>41726469
also don't forget kobo getting good numbers because she got windah's blessing, once holoid fans told him to stop bringing holoid into conversation. windah stop blessing holoid and their numbers are tanked now

>>41726494
>People wanting StarID is either
Kek you forgot this one
>People who are butthurt because yagoo doesn't see indomales are worthy enough to warrant a branch.

>>41726514
this anon >>41716999 bring homoEN into warkop which is out of topic, so I was jokingly bring starsID into the discussion to make it on topic again

>>41726469
This is a cope

>>41726753
nah, I believe they release tempoop to test the water before they finally release homoID

>>41726234
I don't know since i only watch vods (except her first karaoke), i check playboard and they don't have the data of all her stream but so far it says high average 1.8k. I don't know if i remember this incorrectly but i swear her first karaoke reach 5k viewers.

Anyway, her CCV : Vods numbers are crazy except her last stream. 500k+ views in a less than 1 hour stream with less than 2k ccv kek. Those numbers would destroys peak Kobo and even Gura.

>>41726936
numbers don't lie anon, ID audience wants male ID. they don't care about EN and JP since most of them didn't understand both language

>>41727058 (me)
wait i mean 200k+ vods views. i think the 500k+ views karaoke stream has around 5k peak. still less than 1 hour altho it definitely rewatchable so understandable why it has extremely high ratio.

>>41727072
Those 30k are because of manca's fans. They are not Holofags.
People are not begging for StarsID

>>41726222
Based

>>41726969
Why would Tempoop audience be interested in indog males? That doesn't make any sense

>>41727289
neither kobo audience at her peak anon, all of them are not holofags. they watch kobo because she's different. that's why kobo is far more success than the rest of holoid, because she brings new audience. they're not supposed to stole the old viewers, they should brings a new one

>>41727600
People are still not begging for StarsID anon

I want Iofi ass

>>41725031
This reminds me that early Kobo (when she still never said any curse word, even apologizing when accidentally said anjing) almost said ngentot and memek but managed to hold it at the perfect time kek. It's funny how she almost never keceplosan to almost said it again now that she constantly said mild swear like anjing.

I think if someone like Manca join starsID, the best way to reduce to swear is to change it with similar word but still obvious what their intention is. It's really common both in EN and ID world i think.

>>41722400
time to embrace the inferiority anon

Risu need some nuts for stress relieves

>>41727815
they are actually, even tho this is probably from an actual holofag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HFkjzUDHI8

>>41673676
Chloe Pantat Buah

Goddamnit.

>>41725185
>Ollie was worried a bunch of simps would join starsID
So Ollie was worried... that a male Ollie would join?

>>41728274
that's how holoid environment change the normalfag

I summon you, Chloeanon.

>>41728554
she's more worried with someone like connor would join starsID and groomed all the girl. which is pretty ironic since she was getting all the hate because connor was literaly groom her

>>41726969
Someone need to stop m-chan's greed. Letting HoloID collabing with tempiss and tempoop wouldn't bring demand for StarsID, if anything most HoloID fans are neutral to negative about it. Comments such as "let's focus on HoloID girls first" are often found in clips mentioning StarsID. No enthusiasm at all, it's full of worries from fans.

Fuck, I cannot find an actual Chloe's ass. Have this instead.

>>41722400
Still better than slaving yourself to random viewers like those GFE chuubas.

I like this lesbian hag, actually.
(yes, she's an actual hag, she's 30 now)

>>41728953
If they want to release new debuts, they will not listen to what holoID fans wanted. they need to listen to what market wants, because those market currently doesn't care about hololive, so they have to do something to make them care and brings them into hololive community

>>41729068
>random viewers
you mean random fat and ugly viewers?

I'm in the mood of dropping an uncensored Miti lewd of her having sex if you fuckers don't stop with the loop.

>>41729583
STARSID STARSID STARSID STARSID STARSID

cmon drop the lewdss!!

>>41729225
>they need to listen to what market wants,
Then please listen to it, we are living in post-luxiem and post-tempus timeline but fangirs are not looking for indog males

>>41729227
need more infos on this slutty hag

>>41728416
We don't need Holostars ID when we already have Altare, Fuma and Hakka. Holostars boys are not gacha characters

>>41728987
ass virginity gone on the 1st night

both of them

This is not what (You) need, but rather what (You) deserved.

>>41729964
HomoID is not for the girls, that's why ollie was worried

>>41730111
pls use spoiler anon

not everyone into ur disgusting kinks

>>41728859
yeah that's basically just ollie but male

>>41619676
nice color, seems good

>>41730166
We don't need HomoID when we have the perfect brotubers like tempus

>>41730186
I'm anything but a ringofag.

>>41730273
tempus can't speak indonesian

>>41730353
And?
Most of HoloID don't even speak Indonesian majority of the time unless it's collabs.
StarsID gonna speak English anyway

>>41730450
the viewers

>>41730509
The viewers could understand English just fine.

>>41730592
understand english =/= enjoy english content

>>41730674
They will learn eventually, like HoloIDfags

>>41730450
>Most of HoloID don't even speak Indonesian
that's why they're not penetrating indonesian market, the one who can penetrate it was kobo and she speak indonesian all the time. M-chan alreay taking a note from this, they realized there's a larger market that they haven't penetrated yet because they can't speak englsih and all of the girl refused to speak indonesian. HomoID could penetrate those market, with the right talent of course

>>41730821
You are treating me as if I'm Cover's higher ups. You keep selling the probability of it being successful.
Anon you are talking to a fan here. A FAN. what do HoloID, Tempus and StarsJP fans gain from the existence of StarsID. From a Tempus fans perspective starsID gonna speak English and spread the fanbase thin or 'leeching from Tempus success'
From a HoloID fan perspective, StarsID existence is a threat that will take away management's focus from HoloID.
I'm not your boss, i don't need an assurance that StarsID gonna do well or not. I need an assurance that StarsID is not gonna fuck up my favorite groups

>>41730821
Work harder, cover intern

>>41731597
>what do HoloID, Tempus and StarsJP fans gain from the existence of StarsID
nothing, they're not HomoID market, they should not care about HomoID. HomoID should focus entirely on the new audience (or audience who was already watch kobo) and create their own community

>>41728859
I wouldn't be too harsh on her for this one because that reasoning perfectly makes sense (if that's what she said), like, she's at the very least learned from her mistake from letting just anyone getting into her circle

Is Kaela still in college? She keeps talking about class lately

>>41731867
>they're not HomoID market
HomoID market doesn't exist.

>>41732236
yes, obviously. because HomoID didn't exist...
that's why I said they need to focus on new audience, they will be the potential HomoID market. it's also pretty easy to get it, kobo already proof it there's untapped market holoid hasn't reach yet

>>41732783
>Manca again
Your boss wouldn't greenlight StarsID
Please give up

You fleshtuber fags are so annoying I hate kobo so much for bringing you people to holo fandom

>>41733360
>Fleshtubers fags
Wrong
That's cover intern, anon

>>41732008
Japanese language, singing and swimming class

>>41733230
windah was also admitting kobo stole his viewers during deddy podcast

>>41733603
>swimming
For what

>>41733360
that's the only way to make holoid incline anon, or you want them to continue being EN lite ?

Tsunderia threadstorm incoming

>>41734281
they should debut tsunderiaID if they want to survive

>>41733913
She was used to swimming almost every day before Covid, and she herself stated that she actually love doing sports too

>>41734139
Next you're gonna say they should do a face reveal and become muh hybrid vtuber because that's what the market demands? Retard.

>M-chan shitposts in /warkop/ and she's so desperate for wanting to give birth to starsID, she even sold the ID girls to Tempus and Omegay just to create "market demands" for starsID
GRIM

>>41734606
Nice fanfiction, nijinig. Why don't you support your borderline indie corpo chuubas more.

>>41734139
these people only want a hugbox, that's why they hate the idea of inclining

I don't mind leeches and accessories as long as they can incline together, e.g. pekomoon.

>>41735468
t. M-chan trying to damage-control

Alright senpai the way y'all dismissing pre-gen 3 holoID and the nuances they faced back then with these number talks are getting annoying. Knock it off.
And that anon who's so persistent about homoID, you should just take whatever advice you have given to other agencies that don't have massive and established gender discrepancy like Hololive.

>>41734394
All "company" agency are doomed to fail financially unless they cater to GFE crowds or
do porns

its funny to see people seeing m-chan like an evil dictator

>>41735972
WHERE DO THIS PEOPLE COME FROM? /WARKOP/ NEVER HAD PEOPLE LIKE THIS, AT LEAST NOT BEFORE THE HOLOSTARS LOOP

>>41736286
I'm guessing it's that shitpost kikebook group raiding

>>41723432
This sounds chuuni as fuck, what are you even going to do

>>41734281
Hanabi...

>>41736911
Is Hanabi Indonesian?
What happened to her actually? She is missing recently

>almost 300 posts
Warkopchads we're inclining!!

>>41737000
She can speak ID, EN, and JP. I don't know about her timeslot. But, she's in VRchama's ID VTuber list. So...

>>41735972
Anon, this is 4chan, not your hugbox

>>41736286
>WHERE DO THIS PEOPLE COME FROM?
>47 ips for 2days and one night
Not a raid
People changes their opinions. It happens but it's not like regulars here have said anything positive about Holostars before Tempus, it's mainly neutral. It's negative after Tempus debuted

>>41736543
Not sure about that. One of PV mods literally went after freaking Mika awikwokawikwok.

>>41738913
Ewww that's so cringe. Also why did she bite that, should've just block the fag on sight

Can people tell me again how does the discussion of m-chan recruiting starID came again, why now of all thing.

>>41738913
What a retard. Bet these people think they are smart and cool because they rule over a shithole. That's why they never come here other than to lurk, /warkop/ is not their safe space.

>>41731867
Tell me again where this vtuber homoID market are? I don't see them in nijiID or maha.

>>41740644
hiding in the shadows waiting for actual entertaining malechuubas to come

>>41738913
Zomrades not like this
So they're not nijifags.
>>41740404
>That's why they never come here other than to lurk
Wacanaposter anon... Unta Kilat...

>>41740736
Eeh wrong group

>>41735972
This is a normal occurrence in old /moon/ 2bh

>>41740404
>lurk
>He doesn't know

>>41741111
He's probably wasn't there
Since /moon/ was also used as /HoloID/ by Indonesian anons before warkop exists, he's probably not coming from ID1 and ID2

>>41740919
SLV is better than PV.

>>41740735
If they couldn't find anyone slightly entertaining in those agencies, what makes you think Cover would find one?

>>41741386
Both are coming from the same rotten womb that's SGV. It's ironic that warkop is more hugbox-y than fucking kikebook. People who expect hugbox and worship M-chan are more suitable in Twitter. Most warkop anons are moonafags, shitting on M-chan is just to be expected

>most warkop anons are moonafags
The fuck you are on?

>>41741695
How did M-chan wronged Moona?

I only watched her from their debut until like 3-4 months or so, before I went so menhera I can't enjoy my life normally at that time. Still didn't expect her to be big as now (I always thought Risu will be a singer alongside Moona). Also, I'm sucker for her "Ai no Chiisana Uta" song.

>>41741695
I honestly have seen more talk about Miti and indies than Moona or holoID talks that weren't excessively bootlicking Kobo.

>>41741893

>>41742145
Moona have a lot of ants fan

>>41742113
>Miti and indies
I talked about them sometimes but it doesn't mean that I'm their fans.
>>41741893

>>41741965
It was back when ID can't sing unarchived karaoke like other branches and Moona, as the designated singer of ID, took the greatest damage from that since she can only sing acapella then people keep shat on her for more than a year. Ofc there's also the time when we kinda "worship" her after she secured karafun for unarchived karaoke but nowadays, everything is alright except perhaps the amount of homework she gives to HoloID members I still want to dick her down tho

>>41742477
Let go... Gita is not worth it.
She's a bitch who wants to give birth to StarID

>>41742113
I avoid talking about Moona outside /moon/. There are schizos lurking outside who will go apeshit whenever Moona is brought up. I also learned that the less she is in people's view, the less shitposts she will get.
I usually pretend as other fanbase if i have to

>>41741965
>How did M-chan wronged Moona?
Hey /moon/ was not only for moona at that time

>>41742564
Anonchama let me ask you, is that really not a single thought crossing your mind it's actually Yagoo's order to let the Stars and ID collab and give birth to HomoID? I mean there's no one wlikesike Star in Cover more than him
>>41742621
Yeah her schizos really are relentless especially outside of /here/ I give you that