/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

bots

>>41699835
0(zero) sex appeal.

>>41699809
HoloEN is run by "localizers"

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>42,769: Pekora (Hololive)
>33,951: Miko (Hololive)
>25,879: Choco (Hololive)
>23,348: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>21,787: Hibari (Nijisanji)
>19,054: Elu (Nijisanji)
>18,789: Towa (Hololive)
>18,772: Mito (Nijisanji)
>17,459: Kanata (Hololive)
>15,914: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,516: Tamaki (Noripro)
>14,937: Natori Sana (Indie)
>14,331: Nene (Hololive)
>14,131: Chloe (Hololive)
>12,356: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>12,064: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,902: Matsuri (Hololive)
>11,225: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>11,211: Nerumero (Indie)
>10,546: Toru (Nijisanji)
>10,497: Korone (Hololive)

>>41699830
>But it's hard to tell because like >>41699728 said it could just be her being anorexic or something which ends up making eating normal foods hard for her
I say it 100% it is either anorexia nervosa or severe depression. Both can fuck you up really good and the difference is only the reason you stop eating
>one for the body dismorphia and the other for the mental health issue

>>41699928
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr
10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon
11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown
12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live
13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening
15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni
16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance
17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan
18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims
19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream
20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream
21) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 59,617 - Apex CR cup
22) Toya (Nijisanji) - 53,947 - Puyo Puyo Tetris 2 w/Leos
23) Pekora (Hololive) - 39,786 - Cooking stream
24) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,726 - Minecraft
25) Pekora (Hololive) - 42,769 - Viewer room reviews

>PER COMPANY
18x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
12x: Pekora
2x: Kuzuha, Towa
1x: Hololive, Koyori, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Roco, Subaru, Toya, Watame

>>41699928

>>41699895
Fuck you anon!
You're probably right, given how stupidly overwrought the Council lore is, plus the omega nonsense and the 'insistence' of not having gens.

NO MORE PEKO LEWDS PLEASE AIEEEEEEEEE

>>41699638
Pekora will forever be just a streamer and nothing more. She is outshadowed by Marine for her 2m. This is the first time I realised that she will never have the same outreach as Marine because of her voice and her ability to sing is really not that great. Suisei's the First Take was the second time I realised that Pekora will forever be a big fish in the small pond of vtubers who stream games, while Suisei can definitely go beyond that and into normie space. I feel bad for Pekora but I don't think she pity herself that much because that is what she wanted. It is a different story for Kanata because she was originally just a utaite too. All she got was some sololive? Maybe she can do much more but I don't think she has much time left.

Genuine question, why the hell does Bae never seem to incline? Is there ANYTHING she can do, or is she condemned to be labeled the runt of Council forever?

>>41700004
Post Rushia lewds.

>>41699895
Reminder that the actual "EN management" is still living in JP

>>41699966
>Gura got into severe depression after Ame told her fuck off bitch
my rrat seems 99% accurate

>>41700011
>Pekora will forever be just a streamer
The undisputed top one in her field too

/#/ is reclining

>>41700000

>>41699895
EN needs some huge yab, desu JP started caring about their girls after many big yabs in the past.

>>41699928
>>41699992

>>41699830
Coeliacs leads to malabsorption of nutrients including B vitamins, Folate and Iron which leads to anemia and lethargy and a whole host of other shit

>>41699835
>THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS VERY THREAD WHO STILL DOUBT HER

TIME AND TIME AGAIN SHE PROVES YOU WRONG
>ENTER:

SHE WHO HOLDS THE MOST GOLD OF THEM ALL
SHE WHO LAUGHS WITH ARROWS
SHE OF THE BRAIDED FURY
THOU SHALL PRAISE HER NAME

THE ANNIHILATOR OF ANYKARA. THE BESTOWER OF BUFFS. THE CONQUEROR OF CCV. THE DELIVERER OF DISCOMMUNICATION. THE ENHANCER OF ENTERTAINMENT. THE FACILITATOR OF FANS. THE GIFTER OF GOLDS. THE HERO OF HOLOLIVE. THE INSPIRATOR OF INDONESIA. THE JOY OF JAPAN. THE KILLER OF KINGS. THE LEVELER OF LANGUAGE BARRIERS. THE MOTIVATOR OF THE MASSES. THE NEGATOR OF NIJISANJI. THE OWNER OF OJOUSAMA TROPES. THE PROSECUTOR OF PURPLE DRAGON POSTS. THE QUEEN OF QUARRELS. THE RESTRAINER OF RRATS. THE SLAYER OF SUSAN. THE TYRANT OF TRENDS. THE USURPER OF UTAUS. THE VINDICATOR OF VODS. THE WINNER OF WARS.


USADA PEKORA
FIRST OF HER NAME
QUEEN OF NUMBERS
AND PROTECTOR OF THE HOLOBOX

KNEEL!

>>41700011
you dont need to feel bad about her

>>41699966
Reminder that Gura is Vegan 90% of the time and always talks about eating her little vegan wieners as a food replacement. Her eating meat is a big event for her (that burger tweet). I’m almost certain she doesn’t take supplements like Fauna does and add the fact that she also chugs Redbulls on a daily basis instead of food.

>>41700014
If she stops being an Ollie tier whore, stops being a zoomer, stops playing shit games, stops being loud, stops

>>41700100
Based Mommy issues Sapling

>>41700115
Cringe

>>41699928
>>41700110

>>41700011
Being the best streamer in the biggest vtuber agency in the world isn't so bad.

so they are really doing shis huh

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/10l2hhk/wishing_everyone_all_the_best_with_the_social/

A-anons? I think i found out what Botan is planning.
She bought a gun, said in mengen that she wants to get big numbers, i think she will be doing something that i will not like, i'm scared.

>>41700115
Cope. Miko is still the protagonist of hololive.

>>41700115
>THE MOTIVATOR OF THE MASSES
Messi*

>>41700115
I KNEEL!!
>>41699928
>>41700168

>>41700193
vesper really is en gura

>>41700186
But imagine being xqc. Or Mr Beast. Or being Elvis Presley. The Beatles. It could be so much more.

>>41700014
First impressions are everything and Bae took far too long to find her footing during the period when the vtubing audience was still growing

>>41699928
6-11 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead

>>41700014
Too zoomer, loud and annoying. That’s not a good mix. Also I stopped watching her completely after she decided to go off collabing with homos instead of spending time with a sick IRyS. Ship is dead will never watch Bae again

>>41700014
There are aspects to her self and streaming that mean that she filters people as a streamer. She's great as a clip machine, but as a streamer? Too much screaming, too much cocklust, and too clueless about so many things.

>>41700193
This was 100% posted by a /vt/ shitposter.

>>41699895
I can't believe that this thread still thinks that EN management isn't mostly JPs. Everything they do reeks of JPs looking at the EN market with limited knowledge and making decisions based on an outside view.

>>41700186
that's suibjective

>>41699895
>HoloEN is run by "localizers"
I can believe this considering how stupid thee lore seems to be.
Weren't those fuckers also raising a stink over the Persona translation or something?

>>41700014
stop male collabs, stop shilling homos
collabs with cute girls (EN and JP)

>>41700186
But can she be a cultural icon like Suisei?

>>41699928
>>41700243

>>41700014
Males, Zoomer behaviour, Forced accent, Loud, Boring, Not autistic, Normalfag

>>41700327
We're in the numbers thread. It's objective.

>>41700014
She scream peaking too much, sometime i need to lower her volume, it the same problem like ollie.

>>41700095
hey

>>41700206
>”I like Salome and Mito, don’t come to Nijisanji headquarters tomorrow” -Botan

>>41700341
Yes, unless you think musicians are the only type of celebrity that exist somehow

>>41699928
>>41700344

>>41700341
She's already one

>>41700357
No he claimed best streamer.

>>41700292
Why would she cancel a company collab in the works for 3-4 months to go sit with her sick friend for another hour and expose herself to whatever the fuck IRyS has?

>>41700285
>Imagine being XQC
I don’t think she wants to right now. And she is the top Female streamer already anyways

>>41700115
>making Pekora into Daenerys

You didn't finish Game of Thrones, did you.

>>41700127
what does she spend her money on?

>>41700014
Redebut 2.0 with a 3D concert with a lot of hype with 10 days of collabs before the concert and 10 days of collabs after the concert, non stop. And she has to be the most interesting person or at least can bounce off well during all those collabs. No more males.

>>41700193
OMG IMAGINE THE UNHINGED LEVELS OF FUN SOOOO WHOLESOME OMGOMG

>>41700206
She literally tweeted that since her gun arrived, she would start doing ASMR streams with it.
>>41699928
>>41700393

>>41700444
Apparently a house that has bad internet. Dumb rabbit, should've checked that before you picked the place.

>>41700410
The numbers prove it.

>>41700138
I don't think Gura is "vegan" or even vegetarian, she just picks up vegan food because it seems "healthy".

>>41700206
Is she going to subscribe to PewDiePie?

>>41700115
>KNEEL!
I NEVER DOUBTED YOU MY QUEEN!

>>41700450
fucking shameless parasites

>>41700439
Woah spoiler

>>41700450
Hey that my dislike

>>41700014
Her early days when she used to scream at collabs for attention killed her chances to become popular, doesn't help that she was always lost about the things the girls talked because of her zoomer brain

>>41699928
>>41700464

>>41700312
To add to this she relies on her chat a little too much for content and has trouble filling dead air by herself. If you pay attention to a lot of her popular clips or chat interactions during the stream it's like 90% the same guy spamming shit until she reacts for a clip

>>41700450
why can't they just... stay on their lane? why do they always have to drive on the opposite direction?

>>41700115
PEKORA-SAMA, BANZAI!

>>41699830
I have Crphn (well kind of it's a bit complicated) it can fuck you up in numerous ways even neurological ones so who knows, diet doesn't really do much.

>>41700450
>homo has a problem
>''UUUUUUUUH H-HE IS JUST LIKE *FLIP NOTES* G-GURA YEAH GURA LET ME PUT IN MY MEME, THEY SHOULD TOTALLY cOLLAB BTW''

>>41700533
I liked it because I want cumpedos to seethe about that in the replies kek.
>>41699928
>>41700541

>>41700580
Yea. Part of that is her being kinda clueless on a lot of culture stuff and not being quick on her feet to reacting to shit as well as improv. It can be improved, but it's a lot of work.

>>41700534
>Her early days when she used to scream at collabs
Really? What the fuck? I didn't watch council that much back in the days so I have no idea. I just think she is okay-ish as a holoEN. There are people that are worse than her in holoEN in terms of entertainment value.

>>41700415
>Why would she sacrifice something for her ailing friend/ship?”
That’s all I needed to hear Brat

>>41699895
EN management are the people who weren't qualified to be in JP management. They are all living in Japan-

>>41700584
They don't watch streams, they watch clips and in between their next clip fix they need to signal to others in their social group how upstanding and righteous they are

>>41699984

>he outs himself as a nouSEAgi
SSG.

>>41700115
Cope. Show me you First take stream then or your global audience insteand tiny little island with kids only

>>41699928
>>41700618

>>41700138
In some ways it's impressive that Gura has managed to stay alive as long as she has.

If Pekora is a children's hero, she can take the Cocomelon route.

>>41700420
Is she?

>>41700439
No, I didn't, because the FAT FUCK hasn't finished the books. I don't care about the fanfiction show. My dany wouldn't randomly decide she's okay with the genocide of a surrendered city

>>41700656
>they watch clips and in between their next clip fix they need to signal to others in their social group how upstanding and righteous they are

I mean, fuck Tempiss, but doesn't /vt/ do that too? I see out of context clips posted all the time and /hlgg/ as well as /here/ is usually nothing but thread reading fags.

>>41700011
Fame is more important to a singer than voice.

>>41700464
>Gun ASMR
>You only hear bangs

>>41700734
>My dany wouldn't randomly decide she's okay with the genocide of a surrendered city

She already did it once with the Slaver city, what makes you think she wouldn't do it again?

>>41700656
They actually do descend on the streams, but only when it's the girls collabing with the guys, specifically Vesperonii since I don't recall the Mori ones getting any notable numbers

>>41700734
I mean, I'll be honest, she's getting there in the books. It'd take a lot more to flesh out the journey from "City Liberator" to "Liberator of lives (from this mortal coil)", but the pieces for it are present in the books.

>>41700737
/hlgg/ watches streams. You can tell because it's basically a discord channel during them. This thread was watching the Pekora stream and I've seen live discussion of Mumei and Faunas streams here regularly

>>41700640
>the girls get really interested in a topic
>start to talk
>Bae gets confused
>screams in the background to see if anyone will pay attention to her
>doesn't work
>she repeats ''whats going on'' multiple times
>doesn't work
>she finally gets the courage to ruin the topic so people talk with her
These days she is better in collabs but the damage is already done

>>41700737
stfu newfag, clipniggers have ALWAYS deserved the rope, /here/ and everywhere else
including back in ze day in /jp/

So was yesterday another Niji EN gold?

>>41700866
Yesterday was Miko gold

my cute wife

>>41700640
Yes that’s why people dreaded Full council crap since the “leader” bae would take the lead. Same reasons IRySxBaes aren’t that much of a buff, since the average IRyStocrat can’t stand her other than her being their oshis ship

>>41700737
/hlgg/ tells you to kys if it’s an EN clip, they want time stamps.

>>41700819
I think vt watch more stream than those redditfag.

>>41700821
Yeah it was so fucking bad, I remember me staring to hate her more than Mori for ruining collabs.

>>41700866
If you mean crip, I don't think anyone from HoloEN streamed except Kiara (unless you count the homos).

>>41699928
>>41700691

>>41700946
In the generals and splits yes.

>>41700115
Didn't get First Take stream
Didn't get 1-4 million first
Didn't get solo stream with the highest number
He orisongs suck ass.
Her audience is just kids
Marine Surpassed her
Suisie Crushed her
Gura oblitared her
And all of them are living rent free on nousagifags who made shitposts for all eternity no matter what.

>>41699984
Miko doko?

WHERE THE FUCK IS LAPLUS?!?!

>>41700734
Bruh the dragon clan is incestous to keep the purity of the blood. One of the side effect is insanity which is becoming more and more priminent in the book.

>>41700821
Does Bae have any interests that aren't weeb stuff? People say she's a normalfag but she doesn't even know pop culture unless it's Japanese.

>>41700138
>Reminder that Gura is Vegan 90% of the time
There is no such thing. If you eat animal based products you are not vegan.
>she also chugs Redbulls on a daily basis instead of food.
That's likely part of her problem. That masks the physical sensation of hunger and fucks your sleep schedule and your teeth as well

#7 now on US charts. also surprising that it's still #1 in NZ and Sweden

>>41700821
Got a timestamp of this?

>>41700821
I think part of the problem is that she basically got designated the “genki” girl role and both her and Kiara think genki = loud (similar to Subaru).

>>41700014
What appeal does Bae have beyond “she cute” that would make me want to tune in to her? That’s a very subjective and weak appeal in an industry and company full of cute girls. She’s an acceptable singer, but doesn’t do much with it beyond the occasional cover. She’s bilingual but doesn’t leverage that beyond her New Friend series, which is incidentally the only thing I watch from her. She’s enough of a normalfag that she doesn’t have the same crippling social anxiety about organizing collabs, but she still sticks within her clique and the occasional homo collab. She does the voice acting meme things, but refuses to actually do them regularly enough despite her valentines streams being well received. She claims to be a good dancer, but doesn’t do anything with her meme 3Ds to show this off. She doesn’t even have the insane work ethic and willingness to try things outside her comfort zone like Koyori did with all of her sufferkino gaming streams to help elevate her from just being a cute girl.

None of this even touches on subjective stuff like her being obnoxiously loud and randomly screaming, nor her zoomerness meaning that she can’t build a connection over shared interests with the ~25 to 35 demographic that is Holo’s main audience.

>>41700951
>>41700821
kek

>>41701090
Come on, redbull is not that bad. It is just like coffee.

>>41700138
Wasn't gura just a former vegan?

>>41700138
The L-Carnitine and Vitamin B12 from her energy drinks are keeping her alive

>>41700285
kys. who is suisei?
she is not even 1% of madonna, gaga, taylor, beyonce etc. peko is best fem strimer in the world no one else better, most women can sing and draw, but stream? only miko is close to the best, their old friendship is not coincidence

Natural incline baby

>>41701037
Keep up the good work! -Manalyn

>>41701037
>Hololive dominating in multiple categories
>Gura in western mindshare
>Suisei in Music
>Marine in Seeegs mindshare
>Pekora in Pure streaming becoming the TOP female streamer
Cope and Seeth Nijikek

>>41699928
>>41700977

>>41700450
everything always boil down to
>please watch the homos
no genuine memes or push, it's only a circleback to leeching some numbers from the girls or "even better" make em accessory of the mans like in nijisanji. disgusting parasites.

>>41701180
Fuck no, my heart starts to act weird if I drink too much redbull where coffee just makes me want to go shit.

>>41699928
>>41701235

>>41700450
>>41700193
People make posts like this with girls that never interact with each other all the time but if it's with a Homo suddenly it's a problem?
It's just some harmless meme on Reddit it's not like Gura is going to read it.

>>41700953
Kiara streamed on the 24th. Not a single HoloEN streamed on the 25th.

>>41701275
Likely to be psychosomatic

ah the discordtroons got bored of peko vs miko already and are going for peko vs suityan now i see

>>41701293
Go back beggar

>>41701188
>vegan
>sang mcnugget rap
That doesn't add up

>>41701298
StarsEN are considered as Hololive in the cripple tally, so you could say that they streamed

/#/-related, anyone knows why Sora's topic channel isn't merged with her own channel?
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCX1VP45sH-XFxNDzXbMeEBg

>>41701293
>t. the guy that made the reddit post

>>41701180
>Come on, redbull is not that bad
It's not, it's acidic as fuck. Coffee will also mask your hunger but the fact you have to keep it hot and fresh put as threshold on how much you can drink for a certain amount of effort.
For redbull (and cola too) you can just keep popping cans open and chugging

>>41701293
shut up, go back and delete your comment

>>41700821
why you have to give me ptsd few hours before the collab

>>41701330
>no argument

>>41701293

>>41701310
nah, they realized that the battle they need is pekora vs gura + suisei + marine.
kek, that's how desperate it's getting.

>>41701310
Her monthly records really rustled some jimmies.

>>41701378
Here's my argument
>>41701385

>>41699928
>>41701291

>>41701356
Maybe because her channle isn't a music artist channel.

>>41701356
Her main channel isn't considered a music channel. As in the majority of the views on the main channel are generated on songs, see Mori and Suisei.

>>41701058
Why are you asking about Valkyrie Connect /here/?

>>41701160
>willingness to try things outside her comfort zone like Koyori did with all of her sufferkino gaming streams
I wonder if an Outlast revenge arc could bring good numbers. Though I doubt she'd be able to do it considering that last time she only play managed to go for like 1 hour until she started crying.

>>41701356
The bigger question is when is she going to let Ankimo stream again on his channel

>BTFO pekoschizo
>s-stop it nijinogs

>>41701356
Cover being retarded is my first thought, but the second might be Victor owning her songs and the difficulty of separating out ad revenue vs just keeping them apart.

>>41700439
HBO's ending is fanfic, just like most rrats on this thread

>>41701435
>>41701432
>Her main channel isn't considered a music channel
huh?

>>41701483
it's always a "us" vs "them" boogeyman

Because of all the attention Suisei is getting thanks to her appearance in TFT, maybe she will be invited to sing the opening of a low tier anime like Dandadan.

>>41700011
Nijiniggers mindbroken at the fact that pekora shattered one of the only few remaining records they had

>>41701526
Maybe you have to do paperwork to make your topic channel merge with your artist one.

>>41701541
I hope it's for a popular anime, can't wait for the threads in /a/

>>41699928
>>41701430

Guys, is it true that Cover will be scamming people? >>41699293

>>41700439
>TV
that one porn fanfic of joffrey mind controlling everyone into debauchery and incest as a religion is way better

>>41701579
Bocchi the Rock season 2

>>41701293

>>41701069
fucking your sister is based, ask irys or marine or suisei

>>41701356
It is "merged" like the other artist channels. The topic channel is still accessible on its own but the other links will redirect to her main channel and the views will count towards her main channel too.
You could find the same topic channel for Suisei, Mori and Irys if you looked for it

>>41701611
You can just not send your design in, you're not forced to participate

>>41701577
You're probably right, also >>41701490 may be right too considering Sora still has that Victor contract.

>>41701611
>Everything laid out beforehand
>Scam
People can just not participate.

>>41700115
I KNEEL!!!!!! THE RABBIT SHALL RULE THE HEAVENS !!!!!!!

>>41699928
>>41701590

>>41701658
Cope

I can't believe pekomiko is back

>>41701717
Go back

>>41701356
The topic channels don't stop existing.
If you click on any of the songs in the playlist they link you to Soras channel, it's the same for all other girls.

>>41699928
>>41701718

>>41700285
Your comparison sucks. Pekora is already a top female streamer in the world. Suisei will be nowhere near close to any world class singer heck she's currently far fron being a top singer of japan.

>>41701579
/a/ is kind of used to Suisei by now. Taku Inoue keeps putting her on Mogra.
they seem to hate Mori though.

>>41701611
Sounds like a very good way for unknown artists to get exposure. It's not like those cash prizes are worth peanuts in JP anyway.

>>41701611
artists have to be thankful that cover don't run AI to design the costumes and instead some faggot can get clout from what is basically a payed work from hololive that goes into the portfolio. entitled brats.

>>41701534
Anon, what do YOU think this thread is about?

>>41700115
KNEEL TO THE NUMBER GOD

>>41699928
>>41701782

>>41701806
To be fair who doesn't dislike Mori.

>>41701717
Do you know the meaning of the word?

>>41699928
>>41701855

JWU, did Miko win again?

>>41701534
I mean, you retards always easily out yourselves when falseflagging ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>41701579
She would have been a perfect fit for the oshi no ko series she and AI even look similar

>>41701160
>>41701153
Bae is literally just a better pekora. EN fan just doesn't want to give her a chance.

>>41701579
The real question is when will Kronii finally have her breakout role in a major anime

>>41701999
Are you genuanly retarded? I don't hate bae but you are comparing earth to the sky only miko comes close to pekoras streming talent

>>41702078
She refuses to use Holo to get VA roles.

>>41701965
Yeah she get to ravage peko cunny again

Being Autistic, and with both ADHD and Social Anxiety Disorder, I feel Vesper's pain; I don't like 'getting out', so to speak, unless I feel it's absolutely necessary, and even then, I sometimes have to talk myself into it..now, imagine not being able to handle any kind of meaningful change, especially abrupt/unexpected, without developing significant headaches/migraines...now, put the two together.

Yeah...nervous is my *DEFAULT* state in life.

>>41702123
Why? Is she really that dumb?

>>41701153
well she should learn to compress her shouts from subaru then, just pick up the pekoshuba clip of yesterday at the warden when she went full nazgul and compare it to the mumei/kaela/bae boat clip where the rat was randomly shouting into the mic for funzies, it's night and day.
shes 1+ year into the job btw.

>>41701799
>Code miko

>>41702093
It's obvious bait anon.

>>41702152
wrong thread sister

Oh great, the Reddit copypasting faggot spammer is back.

>>41701387
peko = 5 first army

>>41699928
>>41701950

>>41702222
how do u know it's from reddit tho

>>41702162
Yes, she really thinks that VAs get chosen for their talent rather than their connections

>>41702093
Just watch her stream retard. She's just as entertaining as pekora but she is good singer and dancer. So she's basically the better version of pekora.

>>41702162
She doesn't want to

>>41701160
All of this is basically right. What she needs to do is fix her major flaws and find a streaming identity then hope EN3 brings in enough new faces/lapsed fans to build a new audience from.

>>41702276
It's from the thread that got posted here.

they always post the sexy peko

but where is the cute peko

>>41702224
>Pessi X Messi collab
One of her greatest project is still on hold,I am sure she has apply for this collab

I started to dislike Bae after her horror collabs with Fauna. She was too chicken shit to keep streaming and forced Mommy to stop…imagine not getting out of your comfort zone for content fuck

>pekora 2.16 mil. subs

>>41699928
>>41702245

>>41702360
Right here

>>41702152
the cope has been planted, you can take 5 months of break now Vesper

>>41702369
>Mommy

>>41702422
We love Mommy here

>>41702276
redditers have a very specific way of typing. Like they're trying to write a paragraph for their memoir or some shit

>>41701293
>homobeggar
Just kys, even unicorn are better at least they support the girl than you fag.

>>41700243
this is extra funny considering what a pushover this boss is

TICK TOCK....

>>41702422
>Defending Bae
>Wanting to ship that Homocollaber with IRyS instead of US(me)

>>41702369
Ok

>>41702480
It's crazy how hard she's fallen off, I know people blame it on the homo collabs but it has to be more than that

>>41702162
She doesn't like doing things.

>>41702480
AT LEAST MORI HAS MORE VOD VIE-
>JAZZ MUSIC STOPS!

>>41702312
lmao good singer get your ears checked baefag, even noel is better than baelz

>>41702523
It was not homo collabs, she never shied away from that.
>It was signing with a label.
You can't be a "radical counterculture revolutionary" and "serve the man" at the same time

>>41702490
>>41702445
Don't care about whatever else he wrote, but people who call Fauna mommy should off themself.

What are we mad about today?

>>41701611
As far as copyright goes, its actually better as only the first 2 prizes include giving up your copyright (usually for contests like these companies love to claim every submission as theirs and use them without monetary compensation even if you won or not)

I'd say that 1500USD is dirt cheap and basically dust compared to what cover will be making with it (especially if you know how pricing commercial artworks/designs works)

But since the amount of work put in shouldn't be too much(top 5 hours), plus its a fan event so participating in it and designing something for your oshi is one in a lifetime event, its relatively harmless

t. art school graduate

>>41702523
If anything shes just growing at a proper rate like Council reflecting real interest in her content now that tourist fad of 20' and 21' is long over.

>>41702480
>Gets passed by Marine
>About to be passed by Peko
>Overlapped by Gura
>None collab with homos
Homobeggar status?

>>41702523
No It wasn't homos.. It was lean incident. She lost goodwill of many people that aren't deadbeats with that shit.

>>41702523
only 2022: she ramped up rm and subsequent traveling back and forth fucking up the timeslots, umg, very shitty game choices, myth unity went puff during offcollab. this is only the "selfcontained" problems that she had without that a fan went and investigated more outside the youtube page.
homocollab after how much she already had trimmed her audience at that point is really not much.

BLUE

>>41700292
You actual fucking faggot
Bae literally said the other day that her current onsen visit was originally supposed to be with IRyS but she's too sick and can't hang out right now
It's not Bae who's avoiding her, it's IRyS who is doing so especially going by that fucking watchalong stream where she refused them publicly. Where you even came up with this shit has me completely clueless

>>41702523
I hate the homos but Mori losing popularity was more because of the ''I want to dunk on my haters'' shit

Towa, Astel and Aqua should grind for Master together
Imagine the numbers

https://twitter.com/moonahoshinova/status/1618289118773137408
Moona is searching for a 3d autist

>>41702726
>Apex
>>41702422
>>41701627
>>41701385

>>41702689
>She lost goodwill of many people that aren't deadbeats with that shit.
Well, if that's part one, the
>take Gura, the social anxiety poster girl, to a house party of her sisters druggie friends
was the one that turned part of HER OWN audience

>>41702768
ame is in the usa tho

>>41702555
I know you guys hate bae because of her numbers but don't deny her talent. She's literally a top 3 singer of holo along with risu, irys.

>>41702360

Funny this thread still thinks peko the number one
female streamer. When the official youtube award show for vtubers category was won by Code miko. In terms of mindshare peko is big in japan but that where it's end.

>>41702726
Astel severely outrank the other two in APEX skill and experience, it wouldn't make for good entertainment.
In an universe where that didn't put a severe dent on Aqua's career he could captain StartEND 2.0

>>41702820
Mumei is a better singer in Council than her. Gura is a better singer in EN than her.

>>41702523
There's a very subjective issue with Bae which is no matter how much effort she puts in, she feels out of touch. This probably isn't even the proper way to describe it, but still, I think anyone who watches her realizes it. There's something off about her. Maybe it's what others said about her being too normal.

>>41702776
Who cares if its apex its numbers.
>>41702726
Aqua would do an hero from the response of holo listeners.

>>41702824

>>41702726
didn't towa talked about wanting to reach master with astel a few days ago? idk about aqua though
also, astel said that he would like to be a "coach" for the next vsaiko instead of playing because his points would be too high, so maybe there

>>41702873
nta but Mumei? absolutely
Gura gets hard carried by her timbre and her vocals are extremely limited

>>41702776
Here is one for your collection

>>41702859
>hololive
>youtube
Im only know the elite baby miko.

>>41702885
>an hero
Go back

>>41702480
Since her debut, Pekora has gained subscribers steadily

>>41702859
Thats twitch.

>>41702172

>>41702870
Nah. Astel loses to Aqua in a 1v1, assuming peak Aqua, but he has better communication than her.

>>41702820
Delusional brat, she isn’t bad but she isn’t good either aka she is average

>>41702876
I'm absolutely baffled that they decided to make her "chaos" instead of something more fitting like "plain bread"

>>41702859
>paid spot
>have to make a request to enter
>twitch streamers
*aki roru rumaooooooooooooo*
nice bait

>41702726
What is this youtubecomment level discourse?

>>41702776
>>41702929
And another

>>41699928
>>41702405

>>41702768
They should dissolve ID branch and let them keep their L2D as indies

>>41702859
>youtube
retard

>>41702891

>>41702929
>>41702776
>>41702988
These should be posted at the start of the threads and referred back to as necessary

>>41702885
I learned that phrase from /jp/ years ago but never used it. Is it a reddit phrase or something?
swwyt

>>41703012

>>41702917
>Bae good singer
>Gura bad singer
Look I’m not even a chumbud but your fucking delusion if you actually believe that dude…

>>41702820
top 3 along with risu and irys lmaoooooooo
fucking delusional, they're also not the top 3 so wtf are you smoking

>>41702876
She's trying too hard to be Bae, rather than making Bae more like her - she's playing a character, but she's bad at it. Maybe if she got other avatar (maybe Sana's?) and she played character that allowed for more frredom (rather than I'm chaotic and loud, lol) she would be more popular.

>>41703066
Gura is overrated as fuck to be fair

>>41703050
Yes

No one asked, but since Pekora already won. My top three favourite singers in hololive are, Suisei for lives, Mumei for karaoke and Noel for SOVL

>>41703122
But is she bad? And Bae is good?? Come on lmao

>>41703120
>imagine Bae trying to talk like a black person

JWU
Suisei's album number? Do we have any comparison? How was Mori's?

>>41703167
I never said she's bad? she's just worser than Bae although Bae is still only top 4 in EN

>>41702820
Top 3 best singers are Choco, Noel and Coco

>>41703165
holo has many good singers and i have 0 clue of tech so i'll pick with my dick (karaoke)
shion, mumei, gura, chloe.

>>41703165
>Noel for SOVL
Correct but
>Karaoke
Gura
> 3D lives
Idk but Iroha’s 3D debut lives rent free in my head. That was perfect idol moment…. If not then it’s Group songs for lives

>>41703169
>Loud, irritating voice, unpopular
She would be great at playing black woman

>>41702876
It's not that she's too normal, she is a weeb for sure.
It's just Bae is a stereotypical female weeb. She likes male seiyuus and male vtubers and used to be a kpopfag. When she wants to do an anime cover she picks stuff akatuski no yona, a shoujo series, or belle.
Like, I think Miyano Mamoru is a good seiyuu too, but I'm not going to fucking watch the mario movie in japanese just because he's the main VA. Bae is.

Her weeb interests aren't really lining up with the 90%+ male demographic of hololive

>>41702152
stop reposting reddit comments here

>>41703167
Then what the hell do en viewers want people complain they don't do kayfabe and when they do they do not want ti. It's funny the more you think about the more holo en members act like jp members the worst they do in en. Both bae and kiara act like holo jp members yet do the worst.

>>41703165
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMh1LP6uxk
I actually really liked Yogiri's singing. She mostly sang Chinese songs after reincarnating though

>>41702876
She's not normal, she is more of a weeb than most girls
She's just super internet sheltered and has a hyper interest in niche JP stuff which many can't relate to

>>41703350
So maybe she should try and reinvent herself as as sistertuber? But what would she have to do gain female audience?

>>41702876
If the other girls are to be believed, Bae is ridiculously good-looking. So she's never had to know things or pay attention when other people are talking or any other dorky shit like that. She just has to be around and say "bruh" once in a while.
However, I think her mis-fit in Council is because she's a really serious aspiring idol and thought she was hired to do idolshit, but EN basically isn't allowed to do any, as Gura and Kiara have repeatedly complained.

>>41703374
Is there any holo that regularly sing Chinese song after HoloCN dissolved

>>41703421
>So maybe she should try and reinvent herself as as sistertuber?
No I think she should reinvent her interests lol

>>41699928

>>41703421
There is no female audience. You see what kind of numbers Niji EN gets in NA time with most of their Chinese having fucked off. Bae does better than that.

>>41703436
Kobo

>>41703427
Yep i agree. If they allowed bae to do idol stuff she would easily be one of the most successful hololive member.

>>41703427
You say that but she has learned enough to gell well with the other girls in spite of her lack of pop culture knowledge, see her recent interaction with Mumei in minecraft which was pretty good banter or any of the ORK collab, it's very disingenuous of you to say that "bruh" is all she says

>>41703372
>Kiara kayfabe
Gura is better at it and it’s not even close retard. Idk about Bae because I don’t watch her tho

You actual stupid retards, you can't even transcribe a single moment accurately from Bae's streams if it came to it and you have the gall to pretend you watch her
Her problem, especially this month has been simple, dogshit fucking content and that's all she needs to fix right now
>She's too loud
That's not gonna improve her numbers, her zatsus are generally very low energy comfy streams and they get some of the lowest numbers out there
One of her lowest months ever was when she was depressed and super low energy after her cat's loss. The general audience seems to like the loud so throw that shit out of the window just because you don't like it

Yes, what I'm saying is that loud = better for Bae's content from my own fucking observation, her "comfy" energy streams NEVER do as well as her loud ones do. See fucking Persona vs Pokemon

>>41703523
Does Kobo sing real songs that are popular with Chinese or just meme shit like ice cream jingles?

>>41703195
Anon posted earlier, 15k sales on first day in physical japanese sales

>>41703492
I dunno, Luca still pulls decent numbers in NA, and their big tournaments recently have done fine. Niji might have more NA viewer than this thread assumes.

>>41703595
Sounds like Bae is just not cut out to be a vtuber.

>>41703595
Ok sure but she does say bruh and ohmagawd a lot

>>41703530
>Bae was good in Minecraft collab
The stream quality took a dive when Bae showed up. Mumei and Kaela Minecraft was one of the purest CGDCT streams in a while. I decided to sleep after having to hear bae for over 20 mins

>>41703595
You are taking shitposters too serious. Learn to mentally filter idiots.

>>41699928
>>41703485

For those of you who didn't know, this thread is 10x better when you skip any post that's related to EN. Just some advise for my fellow JPchads.

>>41703595
FINALLY someone with a brain. Her Persona streams are loud and high energy as fuck and they had actual decent viewership even into the later parts as opposed to her sleep fiesta Pokemon streams

>>41703595
I watch Bae sometimes she's just not the most interesting streaming in the world. She's nice enough but she just doesn't have that spark of charisma and performance instinct you need to be a big streamer. That's the danger of recruiting someone who has never proven themselves.

>>41702523
Neh, Mori always wanted to do everything and ended up pleasing no one
>wants to be a femme fatale reaper rapper but at the same time a goofy AWOOGA BRAP SHREK brotuber
>wants to be a /here/ tuber which angered a lot of Twitter trannies while also doing everything in her power to spite this place
>wants to be a Holo but also tries her hardest to shill her RM to the Holo crowd
and that is on top of shit schedules and very very bad game choices. She completely fell off from the Holobox.

>>41703525
Nips usually think that Matsuri is one of the best performers in concerts but that doesn't help her numbers.
It's going to matter even less for the EN audience.

>>41703595
And you’re a fucking retard who can’t remember what happened to Ollie, and see it happened again to Bae, once the loud = funny tourists fuck off. The reason her more chill streams underperform is because she already filtered the people who would enjoy them from watching her, and she continues to be exceptionally loud at random times in collabs which mean that people get a constant reminder of why they don’t watch her. Look at even her Newly Friends stream with Sora, and see how much she was shouting instead of matching Sora’s energy.

>>41700115
I will always follow you my QUEEN

>>41703805
Give her a year more, Subaru wasn't that bright in the beginning either. She'll come into her own

>>41703595
Yeah, it's the content by and large. Also her inconsistency and attempts to be some sort of chuuba for everyone. She tries to target ENs, JPs, and Koreas all at the same time.

>>41703626
She actually sings some classics that is well known around the Chinese community in SEA like this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcp_ljCBGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53NwFU-hL6Y

>>41703801
Dude even Mori's p5 streams did well and she doesn't change at all. It's p5 that's the buff

>>41701123
which charts actually matter to rank on? does itunes matter at all?

>>41703734
I literally cannot get over that collab. Like you said it was the perfect cgdct event, a perfect example of the holobox build up and finish, and baes entry was a symbol for the disruption and damage caused by her brand of vtubing i.e. males

>>41701123
>not charting in iTunes in Korea
how, do they not have iTunes chart there??

>>41703673
But none of their individual streamers do, and that's what were talking about. There's just not an enormous pool of English speaking female viewership, and it's getting thinner by the day with more Niji males and Tempus debuts. Trying to be a sistuber is a deadend.

>>41703892
I can also provide many other examples
Bae does good with horror because she's loud in horror and more

>>41703843
>Bae is the En Ollie without riding on Connors nuts for subs
Now it makes sense why I don’t like Bae…

>>41703896
>does itunes matter at all?
That will depend entirely on what narrative someone wants to push.
Personally i lost all faith in these itunes charts when people were trying to argue Mori losing to a christmas album was a good thing

>>41703900
its ranked 40 in South Korea. everything in that place is dogshit kpoop

I wanna make a bunch of vtuber numbers related prediction markets, what kinds of questions should I ask?

Like "will anyone get more than 200k max ccv on their personal channel in 2023" or something for example

>>41703860
Maybe, but she's had 1.5 years and she's really only improved a bit. Some things just can't be learned. Holo EN is bound to have some Akis and Robocos on it's roster.

>>41699928

>>41702910
But there won't be another Vsaikyo.

>>41703997
>will anyone get more than 200k max ccv on their personal channel in 2023
Yes. I expect another big graduation from Niji.

>>41703966
More like Bae does well when she's got Fauna or other councils on the stream. Does she even do many solo horror streams? I know her little nightmares stream did terribly

>>41703992
oh yes ofcourse
Imagine if Suisei charted #1 there, just imagine the seethe from Kpop stans heehhehe

I just don't like zoomers.

>>41703595
i'm not talking about loudness, her voice just fucking clip the audio output in her stream, like the fauna sibilant that sometimes destroy my ear and i have to tune off.
pure technicality, just fucking compress your audio.
how many times you get that feeling of discomfort while watching pekora or shuba while they either go hyper high-pitch or shout into the mic? now compare to bae yawning or random shout even in the chillest of the mornining zatsu.

>>41703654
Is that good or not?

>>41699928
>>41703485

>>41703997
Simplest ones are about subs milestone
>will streamer X reach Yk subs before date Z?

>>41703896
Charts are a fucking mess these days because different ones have different rules about whether streaming counts, and by how much, and which streaming services they count
For Japan specifically Oricon is still a good measure, and she did really well on day one, only narrowly missing #1 against multiple same-day releases from fairly big established artists

>>41703969
Bae has a lot more respect for Hololive and it’s implicit social rules then Ollie did at the beginning, even if people here think that >no males is one of them, there’s more then a couple of Holos who prove that’s not the case as long as you keep it to your channel.

>>41699928
>>41704091

>>41704078
According to anon, trails only Kuzuha album

>>41704097
sub milestones aren't as good these days with growth so slow, are there any other well-tracked metrics that people could speculate on that would make for good pred-market fodder?

>>41703966
>Bae does good with horror because she's loud in horror and more
You even watch Bae? She does good with horror cuz she seems genuinely scared, she doesn't have the mental to play up anything because of it, that's why her horror game stream were doing well (and why she rarely does them too)

>>41704069
2023 and people still don't set up compressors?

>>41699928
>>41704138

>>41704144
If i remember right, Kuzuha had a gacha system as well that could give you a ticket to either a meet and greet or a concert.

>>41704144
and that was tied with concert tickets

>>41704119
How was the Oricon chart when Still Still Stellar was released? SSS finished 4th iirc.

>>41702585
>a "radical counterculture revolutionary"
Does she pretend to be that? Like sure she's a rapper, but she's also a massive poser.

>>41704183
>>41699928

>>41699928

>>41704158
>on that would make for good pred-market fodder?
That's the problem, CCV is too unreliable of a metric to be worth putting in a pred market, unless you are playing "GOD MODE" (like the vstats owner) and your word is the ultimate tiebreak when something like pic related happens.
You could use "time to 1 million" (for instance) for VOD Views for songs but for the most part it would take days to weeks to months until you could settle the wagers.

I have the same idea as I suppose you have (something like predictit for chuubas) but there is no reliable unambiguous undisputable metric to make it not a hassle

>>41703896
only thing you need to know is that its probably going to be the best selling albums in vtubing history
>also remember her sololive is this weekend so sales will increase even further

>>41704224
SSS was 6th on arguably a less competitive chart. Specter matched its first week of sales on preorder.

>>41703654
That was the chart for the 24th, so "day 0" sales (preorders only).

>>41704295
>>41699928

>>41700115
I kneel peko-sama

>>41703898
I can’t believe I went from Magging and shilling Tempiss as “brotubers” to now agreeing with your shitpost. Well I guess I don’t see it as a shitpost anymore

>>41704243
>Like sure she's a rapper, but she's also a massive poser.
She started in the "underground JRap" circles. It doesn't matter if they're posers, their whole identity is
>we're too cool for mainstream
That doesn't square up with being in the most mainstream manicured well behaved vtuber company, and even more so being signed for a Big 4 label.

>>41699928
>>41704362

>>41703896
In my experience iTunes ranking predicts pretty well a Holo's ranking on Oricon the next day. It's often +/-1 depending on if it does well on Mora also. However, it's pretty much the only data we have for international sales, so gotta make do with what we have. I highly suspect that a single Discord channel with 20 people in it deciding to buy a chuuba's single after it gets linked can make it incline hard in small countries. Although at the same time I doubt Specter hung between 1-11 places in New Zealand for a whole day without genuinely significant traffic which in modern music industry means something like ~1000 albums sold.

>>41704243
Its less what that anon is saying, and more she had a lot of songs about how her music is seen as weird and no one wants to give it a chance or view it as "real", then she gets signed to one of the biggest record labels and the narrative rings hollow.

>>41704131
You mean like when Bae interrupted her collab with Fauna to call into a homo birthday?

>>41699928
>>41704422

>>41704308
I suppose I could at least do stuff like will Koyori stream x times or will Kaela stream more than y hours in 2023 as well

>>41704318
She surpassed herself, nice.

>>41704470
Oh he got you there Bratz

>>41704526
>>41699928

>>41704243
Most rappers are posers, or if that didn't start as one they will become a poser eventually.

>>41699928
>>41704577

>thread full of people who don't watch bae try to dissect why people don't watch bae through knowledge they gained by not watching bae

naruhodo ne

Suisei very close to another +10k tick in subs

>>41704470
Oh fuck this kills the bratz

Neuro sama waiting room starting around 1900, i'm betting 4k on stream start.

>>41699928

>>41703591
Adding shark to the end your words ins't kayfabe retard. And talking about how sickly you are and that your mom makes you put the retard helmet on definitely isn't kayfabe
>No you don't understand she's being retarded on purpose
That's how she has always been. It's not kayfabe it's autism.

>>41704688
I thought she got banned?

>>41699928
>>41704692

>>41704535
Yeah,. but that is not that good for a prediction market because finding that EXACT point where it could go either over it or below it is hard and more likely than not every question would have a correct answer from the getgo.
Also, any prediction that could be "exciting" enough would have a "maturation period" too long and tie the funds of the people making wagers for too long to be appealing.

Think about it
>will Koyori have X streams in 2023
would either tie your funds up until December if the house made a correct prediction of the approximate number, or would be settled in the middle of the year if they undershoot.

>>41704743
Twitch bans are a meme, typically they last for 3 days.

all the rrats seem to agree tha she is in EN3. thoughts?

>>41699928
>>41704751

>>41704790
QRD?

>>41704743
Her ban expired today, i was wondering if she would get a big buff from the videos but likely most of those tourists don't even know shes streaming again. Will probably see a few days of steady growth as those people catch on.