/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Is it just me or it feels like Aqua doesn't stream much these days?

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

Do we have to be a blue board?

fuck, spent too long looking for a good titty image

I can feel it. This is finally the thread where no one bites bait.

>>41484646
go back to /bag
we taking Ws rn

>>41484713

>>41484646
Isn't this just Fubuki?

* TOP 10 SO FAR *
Only challenge to this Selen number coming from Toya-Leos Tetris collab?

>Less than 2 days
>4M views and 360k likes
KNEEL

>>41484646
BASED BASED BASED

>>41484800

Marine is dying again...

>>41484800

Are you ready for the FE Engage arc?

FULGUR YOU FAT FUCK
YOU ARE SO BIG AND FAT
WHY ARE YOU SO FAR

>>41484800
AIEEEEEE
SUISEISAMA, I KNEEL

>>41484871
I want to fuck Bae's sister

/#/ is declining

>>41484800
10mil in 1 week possible?
Viewcount has slowed down tho

>>41484694
It'd be nice if we weren't, since it'd automatically mean that ID wouldn't be able to access /vt/ without a vpn, but it'll never happen.

>>41484871
can you genderbend on the fly in this garbage?

https://streamable.com/rzax14
>Ina: it's not always us...
>proceeds to not stream for 3 months
EN management is the devil btw

>Subaru pulling 20k on her own with a run of the mill basic bitch regular ass Live a Live solo stream
Who said it was a debuff again?

>>41484713
It's our responsibility to bite the bait so the trolls don't get lonely and kill themselves.

>>41484871
Sigh, I mean yea its awkward as shit for a western audience to be hitting on an underaged kid, but I also despise censorship with every fiber of my being, so....
I'll just pirate the game I guess.

>>41484984
Why are you forcing me to listen to Kiara's whore voice, faggot.

>>41484984
That
>It was not always uuuusssss
kills the kitten.
It turned a pledge to do better into a complete shift in responsibility to someone else.

>>41485028
>Why are you forcing me to listen to Kiara's whore voice, faggot
But I didn't, I literally quoted the part for you to read it, it's not my fault that you decided to click the link

>>41484646
BASED

>>41484871
>loli anna
holy based

>>41484968
hack into youtube and whitelist all holo accounts

>>41485015
isn't she playing with Oh-gayu?

>>41485020

>>41485061
Between her and Mori doing the no-no sign with her hand, it basically rendered the speech pointless, since the other women just banded together against Kiara
It reminds me of my highschool times where women would band together and blame the male classmates for some shit they were mostly at fault

https://youtu.be/Os5TYzr__94
The only holo who celebrates lunar new year

>>41484984
Multiple people can all eat the blame, no need to be shy.

>>41485015
>offcollab with Okayu
So we just lying now?

Does anyone know if any of the homos have a member at the highest membership tier? ($100)

>Faufau dogwhistled again
Why does she keep doing this. I wonder if her numbers would suffer if her competitors streamed more regularly.

>>41485175
yab

>>41485175
Reminder that Kobo got a funnel from Vox

>>41485175
Yagoo's secret weapon to return to CN market

>>41485249
timestamp?

>>41485249
Her numbers are already suffering with ina streaming more anon

>>41485175
>>41485254
>yab
Kobo sang chinese songs in that impromptu karaoke when she got locked in her office.
Acknowledging the chinese audience is not something new for her

>>41485166
You do know that Cover is responsible for getting concerts and shit done and if Myth haven't been given one yet it's entirely on Cover for being retards, right?

>>41484968
not if trannie sand roasties who work at youtube keep shadowbanning hololisteners' accounts

>>41485249
>dogwhistled
qrd?

>>41484984
oh great, the management cocksucker is here

>>41485249
anon? She was struggling to retain 5k viewers overlapping ina and mumei

>>41485280
>>41485298
https://youtu.be/O54AQHooz9g?t=7566

>>41485306
maybe she'll learn the lesson then

>>41485287
You know they only have a studio in Tokyo?
How many Myth members are doing singing reps, dancing reps, japanese reps?

>>41485175
I celebrated this year alone without senshou

>>41485249
>anon is a retard who desperately wants Holo to share his totally epic and redpilled /pol/itical views
Every time. She’s a white vegan urbanite she absolutely is not some epic based conservative.

>Check Axels stream since I don't know how good he as at Apex and Astel got me interesting in it again
>He's switching back and forth between English and Japanese
Has he been doing this for a while or does he just feel like committing suicide now?

>>41484984
Ina sucks

>>41485305
>saying that they need to improve themselves is being a management cocksucker
Thanks for enabling them, now don't complain about cover because they gave up on the branch because of their work ethic

>>41485175
Kobo actually has some chink nijisis watching her actually. She is like the only holo who gets an individual thread sometimes on their home board.

>>41485320
If they only have a studio in Tokyo it's their responsibility to open another one accessible to Myth, you're an actual fucking retard.

>>41485354
focus on the game axel

>>41485287
>Cover is responsible for getting concerts and shit done
They're not, that's the thing. Even on the JP side, it's the girls doing all of the production and funding of their own lives.
They (the girls and their personal managers) are responsible for inviting the guests, procuring the songs, scheduling studio time for rehearsals and for the recordings and for funding it too while upper management takes care of the tech and the studio staff, accounting and legal.

You used the word "been given" but outside of the 3D debuts
>which Cover is 100% at fault here for not giving Myth a proper one this far down the line
everything else is supposed to be organized by the girls themselves, exactly like it is on the JP side

>>41485366
EN management is indefensible, regardless of what the girls do or don't. Their mistakes are on a managerial level so it's Cover that takes the blame there, and you are in fact a cocksucking bootlicker for defending their garbage job.

>>41485315
i dont get it?

>>41485412
>what is holofest
>what is holosummer
>n-n-no Cover organized main channel concerts don't count even though they've been stalling off on giving EN an exclusive concert for years now
Retard

>>41485412
>personal manager doesn't exist now

>>41485315
I hear nothing that even comes close to dogwhistling, is there something I'm missing?

>>41485175
Is this a good thing or bad thing?

>>41485412
Watch streams, Cover literally denied Kiara a 3D live of her own while approving all the homos and JPs.

>>41485320
How many NijiEN members are doing singing reps, dancing reps, japanese reps? I can guarantee it's not more than a handful of them.
It literally doesn't matter. Anycolor provided the opportunity for everyone anyway.

It's not management's ensharts. It's your lazy chuubas.
Gura, kronii, ina and mumei are all lazy whores who can't be bothered to try because they have decent numbers anyways even if they put out shit content.
Fauna and irys only do the bare minimum of streaming and don't do shit otherwise.
Bae and Kiara are the only ones that try but unfortunately for ensharts they are also the least talented and entertaining.
Don't even get me started on whori and ame

>>41485458
Maybe he's talking about her gentrifying the neighborhood? But she's treating it as an unfortunate thing which would be a libtard opinion.

>>41485412
How the fuck do you know you stupid faggot? Even if that were the case no way in hell any of the girls make that much money to even attempt to throw a live concert and still have enough money to pay bills.

>>41485412
>everything else is supposed to be organized by the girls themselves
both kiara and gura did exactly that
both got shutdown and had to resort to having kanauru do the work
gura at least got half of it done

>>41485460
Good thing, we want holo back in china to replace all the turds here.

.t chink

>>41485315
?

Eheheheeheuehueehueheuehee
ehuehueheuheeheuee
My PP big
Your PP small ehueheuheuehuehuee
hueheueueehueeheueheueueue

>>41485373
>it's their responsibility to open another one accessible to Myth
Do you know how much it costs to open a new studio? It's not just equipment, you need multiple staff members on payroll for said studio. And for what, to do 1 3D stream a month?
And where would that be located since none of them live in the same country, let alone in the same city?
What are the myth members doing to get the 3D studio? Did they get a vocal coach to improve their singing? Do dancing reps?
>>41485499
Anycolor is forcing everyone to do go the idol route, the concert is alos a good revenue source to look good in front of their shareholders. Cover doesn't force anyone to do what they don't want (like Bloom)

>>41485363
Yes, she sucks my dick good

>>41485532
Can't you just watch Artia for whatever local vtuber?

>>41485592
you're not me anon

>AnyColor respects their EN branch enough to give them something only JP livers have gotten before this
>Cover can't even be bothered to give their ENs 3D debuts
Axel was unironically right, Holo management is trash compared to Nijisanji.

>>41485507
>my lazy chubas butchered their own live 3d birthday stream and postponed the original animation release
>it's also my lazy chubas that didnt get permissions for games they wanted to play
>my lazy chubas also blocked themselves from freely collabing with coco

Smells like insectoids here.

>>41485567
>implying Cover can't already afford multiple studios in America from all the money Myth has made them
t. retarded Cover shill

>>41485592
Ina, gura, mumei and fauna are all mine faggot. You step aside. You can have kronii or something.

>>41485616
Don't reply to flips

>>41485446
>personal manager told Ina to take a 3 month break and not disclose anything during that time
Hmmm...

I'm gonna be honest, it's really hard being a holoEN fans right now.
The top streamer isn't streaming, the management doesn't give a fuck about holoEN and instead debuted faggots that nobody asked for and they ruined everyhting good about hololive, still no 3D debut in sight.
Can we just switch management with the JPs?

>>41485446
The girl and her personal manager are a team, with the "manager" being essentially her personal assistant and a disposable one too.
Suisei used and disposed of several of those already, their only tasks is to do what the girls request them to do.

>>41485445
I am not following, the complaint here is that EN is not part of these company wide events or something?
I could give you Holosummer, Myth and ID1 could be part this year but as for the rest, aren't they already participating?

That's beyond the point too: Kiara asked a simple thing at >>41484984
>what if we pledge to go above and beyond to make sure things work better? So far we are clearly lacking
The answer was
>yeah, but what about management lacking too?

>>41485175
She's young and dumb, it's actually sad seeing Kobo being used by management like this. Now her numbers reclined so much

Why are there so many flips in this thread?

>>41485629
Then take a shower you stupid faggot.

>>41485567
>Anycolor is forcing everyone to do go the idol route
>meanwhile holoEN can't even do the idol route they all want to do because Cover forces them to not do it

>>41485634
No need to be selfish anon, their wombs can take more than 1 creampie

>>41485593
No, they all suck dick. The jp indies are all straight up bootlickers and panderers like john cena's bing chiling which is cringe as hell.

>>41485634
>not wanting menhera gook pussy

>>41485315
i think you are schizo anon

>>41485664
How can you tell? Is it the wording or something they use?

>>41485649
It’d be nice if you actually watched the streams you use for shitposting

>>41485633
So tell me enfag, how much does it cost to open a new 3D studio? How much is the salary cost of a full taff for a year?

>>41485649
The complaint here is that EN have to share their concert appearances with JP instead of being able to have the spotlight all to themselves, that's not defensible considering how much they've done for Western vtubing. NijiEN have contributed even less and still get a full concert of their own. Only Cover bootlickers like you will pretend that is okay.

>>41485681
If there is one thing worse than
>sticking dick in crazy
is
>sticking dick in asian crazy

>>41485673
Yeah, cover is literally forcing them to not stream and be happy with the 20k members giving them money every month for not streaming. Literally hitler

>>41485562
STFU Napoleonion

>>41485721
Cheap enough in the States that even a flipnigger like you could afford it after working for 10 years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqc-HPgznN8
So mumei is doing the first mc stream in the new server. Predictions?

>>41485604
Maybe going public isn't a bad idea after all Axel.

>>41485727
Hey sticking dick in crazy isn't that bad. I would gladly stick nine into polka and mumei

>>41485649
>>yeah, but what about management lacking too?
>yeah
lol no, none of them committed to that. They just blamed management for everything, with Mori leading the lazy faction

>>41485753
15k

>>41485742
They're forcing them to not stream because they don't let them do anything at all like 3D events and concerts while also saddling them with endless paperwork because of their retarded bureaucracy, yes.

>>41485722
>EN have to share their concert appearances with JP
They don't, that's the whole point.
JP Gen 1 organized From1st, Gen 3 organized that AWFUL (and paid!) sankisei concert, there is nothing preventing Myth from doing likewise.

>checking new posts on r/hololive
>random Pekora rrats
>Kiara doxx with Niji edits
Christ the state of that place is sad. To think it used to be the center of the hololive fandom

>>41485753
Who cares, it's NA hours and only JP/ID care about the new server.

>>41485753
10k without guests
15k with guests
Assuming no overlap/minimal overlap

>>41485793
>there is nothing preventing Myth from doing likewise
Management is preventing them, literally just watch streams you fucktard Kiara and Gura both had their concerts cancelled and only salvaged by third parties.

With Myth selling a ton of merch and being very popular with cafes and stuff like that, they must have made a lot of money for Cover. Where did Cover reinvest all this money?

>>41485753
Realistically 11k

how do you go from "chuubas should shut up about personal relationships" to "it's ok if a chuuba discloses ideological/political affiliations". How is one cancer for numbers but the other one is fine.

>>41485791
>they don't let them do anything at all like 3D events and concerts
Anon, 3D events and concerts are organized by and paid for by the girls themselves.
There is nothing preventing Myth from doing so. Even fucking Aki Rosenthal threw a banger last year, one of the best 3D concerts.

All they have to do is to fund and produce it, like their overseas peers do.

>>41485828
JP

>>41485828
>Where did Cover reinvest all this money?
HoloEarth
HoloALT

>>41485793
NTA but the point is that if Anycolor can do something like that for NijiEN without NijiEN needing to organize it themselves, why can't Cover? It means Anycolor is objectively supporting their talents more.

>>41485793
>Cover DOESN'T do this good thing that Anycolor does
Then they could stand to learn a lesson from Nijisanji in how well they treat their EN branch.

>>41485842
What are you talking about?

>>41485751
It'll just be easier to fly those lazy whores to Japan if they need to record 3D shit. Why break the bank and shill 5-10 million USD to open studios for EN shitters that can't even maintain a 10k ccv average kek

>>41485848
Maybe they'd have enough money to do so if Cover didn't steal all their cash to reinvest it in flops like gen 5 and gen 6. Apparently the idea that Cover should treat its best performing branch better and give something back is bad now to the Coverdrones.

>>41485828
>>41485858
Hololive Error, does anybody remember that trash

if you think about it, biting every bait might actually be the long-term solution. if there's no thrill of hunting (You)s, then eventually the schizos will see no point in crafting bait. After all, nobody Gets excited for fishing at fish farms.

>>41485878
Don't reply to faunaschizo, please.

>>41485797
They pinned something as uninsignificant at this to the sub lol

>>41485904
How about stop being a fish?

>>41485868
>>41485870
Wait, that's the reason for all of this malding?
>Nijisanji did it for their EN branch

>>41485657
>Is Chinese
>Somehow it's management's fault

>>41485902
holy retard

Reminder that only nijiniggers will defend Cover's incompetence and claim they don't need to do good by EN because they're happy watching holoEN sink to the bottom

>>41485919
WAIT WAIT WAIT HOLY FUCK THEY GOT A HOLO ANIMATOR FOR THIS
>https://twitter.com/toripuru_3

why the fuck are they using a holo meme, a holo artist and a holo subreddit for this...

>>41485828
DA BOYZ need more support gomen

>>41485903
A game like Error costs fucking nothing to make. Cover used to make shovelware on the cheap they know how that racket works, you're retarded if you think Error was a money sink.

>>41485793
>there is nothing preventing Myth from doing likewise
Myth themselves being lazy and refusing to pay for the concert or fly to japan for the recordings

>>41485933
That's the reason this entire conversation stated to begin with yes
https://event.nijisanji.app/EN_COLORS/en/

>>41485984
>only sold 200 copies on Steam
Still lost them more money than it made, like almost all of their retarded JP-only ventures

>>41485753
9k, the Minecraft buff is fucking dead and Fauna might overlap her if she goes for another long stream

>>41485947
So is Bae, but she refuses to reference it in anyway since she knows her company history

Look who ticked.

>>41485532
What's the opinion on that ps2 vtuber shit?

Let's just march to cover hq and do another second coming of kyoani incident.

>>41485354
If you're asking if he speaks in both languages all the time not really, but he's ESL so when he malds he slips back into Japanese.

I think he reached master before debuting but his skill isn't really master level.

>>41485848
Aside from the fact that the studio is booked 8 months in advance. No line for UPROAR though of course. Bet they’ll clear the deck for Tempus 3d debuts in June-August too, no delays for pur most valuable members! Hell Kiara literally did organise one wirhout any help from Cover and their response was LOL we can’t help get Kanauru.

>>41485657
I wonder how competent ID management is compared to JP or EN. Are they strict or loose? Is it thanks to them being a small and fairly insignificant branch that allow them to survive yabs so far? Do they have a good relationship with their talents?

>>41486071
nijibro...

>>41485992
That's some silly malding them.
If I were a betting man I would say Nijisanji is only doing it branch wide instead of just for Luxiem (and maybe Noctyx) because of the backlash they would get otherwise.

>>41486051
Bae hates her ancestry

>>41485175
Why is this a bad thing? This is equivalent to celebrate christmas in indonesia, everyone celebrate on Sea, it consider a public holiday.

>>41486085
>Aside from the fact that the studio is booked 8 months in advance
It's not

>>41485825
iirc the very original issue is that they don't even allow EN to have third party to do 3D because no "Cover studio" quality.
I feel like the restriction is lifted now

>>41485981
The boys NEED the support you sexist incel!

>>41486104
They're still doing it while Cover is sitting on their ass, Myth hasn't even had proper 3D debuts and they're still owed that full gen concert more than most of the holos that have been given one lately.

vesperoni status?

>>41485992
Anon, organizing a full holoEN live would be plenty of hardwork from vocal to dance training to a whole lot of managing and shit. The reason why they could rush nijiEN this fast is that they aren't gonna be on stage... This is just a cheap cash grab.

>>41486051
Bae understand how disgusting chinese is while kobo is an unironic proud chink.

>>41486117
Watch streams, Kiara already talked about how Cover refused to let her do a 3D live just last week.

>>41485664
What gave it away anon? Is it the ESL and certain words that they repeat over and over? No diversity in their vocabulary? It's SEA time after all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqc-HPgznN8

too bad none of the JPs will be around at 6PM PST but hey, it's something

>>41486117
You could try watching 1 fucking stream

>>41486085
>Aside from the fact that the studio is booked 8 months in advance.
Anon, Noel disclosed to be working on her 2023 projects in the middle of 2022 and Mio already disclosed to be working on her 2024 projects now.
>Kiara literally did organise one wirhout any help from Cover and their response was LOL we can’t help get Kanauru.
From what I understand from that situation whatever she organized was clearly not up to par to be called a "Cover produced" 3D live.

The one example that can be held against Cover is the butchering of Gura's live. I don't know WTF happened but the way it was split in two, half kanauru half Cover produced was awful

>>41486096
>Never got any local sponsorship
They are fucking shit

>>41486166
>watching kiara
I rather kill myself

>>41486181
You could try to be less retarded

>>41486135
>owed that full gen concert more than most of the holos that have been given one
There was no "full gen concert" given to any gen mate. The girls produced and paid for it, they were not given anything

>>41486135
You're ignoring the part where Myth had done plenty of lives for the past year and not just holofest

>>41486085
What proof do you have that Uproar didn't book months in advance? Also Oga said he had to book the studio for his off-collab with Bae 3 months prior.

>>41485904
You never notice me though senpai baka

>>41486192
>Cover pushes EN to the back of the line for the studio all the time
>Anycolor pushes EN to the front of the line over JP groups so that they can have a high quality AR concert
Really makes you realize which company appreciates their EN chuubas more

>>41485664
Why are you ban evading?

>>41486208
>Everything has to went through JP's management
Not much they can do when their bureaucracy are shit like that. What do you expect from a company with classic Japanese autism.

>>41485722
can we fucking remove en in holofes then? cause boy do they devalue the worth of my ticket

>>41485657
Not to mention they forced kobo to shill the homos and let her become unbearable valorant autist

Sisters came back?

>>41486256
>Cover pushes EN to the back of the line for the studio all the time
Now you're just pulling headcanon. There is no indication Myth even attempted to produce a full gen concert.

>>41486228
You're ignoring the part where NijiEN are getting an EN-exclusive concert with only ENs while Myth always had to share the stage with JPs

>>41486208
I vaguely remember them getting a drink sponsorship or something

>this thread
No wonder Kiara hates chumbuds
https://streamable.com/ic1h7t

my cute wife

HoloJP Management - Susei first take
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1616421489275981824

HoloID Management - bunkasai night event
https://twitter.com/hololive_Id/status/1616359884018126849

HoloEN Management - ?

>>41486275
>remove the most interesting part of holofes, holoEN 3D debuts and songs
Lmao Cover might be retarded but not that retarded, they know a good half of their revenue comes from overseas fans.

>>41485604
>niji respect it talent
>id and kr still doesn't have 3d
Sure anon, why don't you memoryhole that faggot.

It's simple, Anycolor believes in their EN project, Cover doesn't. The proof is in Cover not releasing EN3 after over 500 days and instead accelerating with boys.

>>41486279
>forced
Coping kobokek, just accept that she's a cock hungry whore

>>41486311
>HoloEN Management - ?
Holostars English animation
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1616995099573096448

>>41486330
ID and KR aren't EN and were fucking shitters back when they were separate branches, EN isn't. If Cover acted more like Anycolor EN wouldn't be in the dire situation it is today with the entire branch neglected just to push out holoX and Uproar and Tempus.

>>41486311
>HoloEN Management - ?
That tempoop thing with yagoo. Epic stuff.

>>41486242
UPROAR would have had to book it at fucking debut to have not jumped the queue

>>41486330
ID/KR (minus Hana) didn't hit the 100k requirement for 3D until after most of EN.

>>41486326
If you had said "fans of the overseas branch" it would make sense but I don't think a significant portion of Holofes tickets (be it in person or online) come from overseas fans.

>>41486285
When did they ever leave? The least they could do is show some diddies though

Whats the point of a new Minecraft server exactly if everyone is just gonna bring their End game gear over? Seems pretty pointless.

>>41486385
>he doesn't know about the Gura plushies, Korean cafes and omocat merch

>>41486309
>wife
Perra

>>41486285
Anon they won the wheelchair tally today, of course they're back

>>41486363
Anon, it's not hard to do it considering the 3D debut is a company produced event.
>plans for the year
>day X: release gen
>day X+180: reserve studio for 3D debut

>>41486411
not everyone is that soulless
btw anyone that brought diamond armor over or farmed it off camera before their first stream is soulless

Wait, I thought the apex cup was a two day event? And now we have a nijien stream as current gold with nothing really exciting to take it from either side?
Fucking grim.

>>41486411
An opportunity to build without having to worry about property rights/infringing on the space of other Holos.

I suggest we make a petition to fire holoen management.

>>41486292
Maybe you should at least watch streams. Kiara's 3D concert plans were denied by management just so they could make space for Tempus 3D debuts.

>>41486421
I know about all of that, but that's not "half the revenue", specially considering there are 35 girls on the JP branch with even low ranked ones like Choco selling six digits of merch in their birthdays

>>41485753
20k

>>41486465
Selen deserves it

https://youtu.be/PQ54uUV41-k

>>41486480
Cover management needs to be fired, this rot is coming from JP headquarters

>>41486498
Selen already has a global gold under her fat folds.

Will TFT Stellar Stellar surpass original version?
How many views percentage of TFT songs have compared to original version?

>>41486432
Yea, for me.

>>41486355
Fucking kek what a timeline

>>41486530
Fire Yagoo.

>>41486520
>Risu gets a more legit Hologra episode than Gura/Ina
Understandable

>>41486498
Selen deserve a bariatric surgery, maybe that could be her 1 million subscriber wish if nijisanji does such things?

>>41484968
What's the current 10m record anyway?

>>41486411
>everyone
Not everyone.
>Whats the point of a new Minecraft server
To renew interest.

The dumbest take about Minecraft is, like you're doing right now, to think it has ANYTHING to do with playing the game.
The Minecraft server is just a "stage", a "mise en scene" for the interpersonal connections between the girls to form.
And it's already paying out, connections are already forming and "rare birds" are already appearing, like Sora - Korone collab in the server

>>41486334
NijiEN is already dominated by the boiz. Cover won’t support EN management until the girls bow to their superiors, da boiz.

>>41486176
Maybe some of the other EN's will hop on and they can recapture some of the magic of the fall 2021 Minecraft streams where they were always playing and talking together!! Ah, who am I kidding, none of them give a fuck anymore.

>>41486560
FOR US

>this has more updoots than the homo pin

>WELLLLLLLL ANONSSSSSS!?!?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ54uUV41-k

>>41486547
Not when I have something to say about it!
Whats that? 40K shadowbanned accounts?
I can make it 80K if you want.

>>41486411
I thought the reason for new server is to connect the old one with the homo server so it will become part of holopro minecraft?

>>41486679
>my necromancer
fucking cuckold

>>41486355
did this thing get good views at least

>>41486721
kek, no, the portals are already set up and it's just
>ID
>EN
>JP
existing servers.

>>41486681
PekoMoona episode next?

An original Hologra style animation series for Tempus? Imagine how big that would be if they did it for the girls. It's unreal how much they are shilling Tempus while giving the girls nothing. I don't even hate the Tempus boys themselves and it has me livid.

>>41486681

>>41486739
dunno

>>41486739
>good views
>holostars

>>41486681
Nobody cares about that stupid whore dog. Stop shilling her.

>>41486770
>Worse than VShojo lore videos

>>41486770
>en3 died for this

>>41484666
bump

HoloEN has been on cruise control for months now while NijiEN has been grinding hard and coming up with new ideas and massive events all the time. Thankfully for HoloEN all of the NijiEN "talent" are less interesting than watching paint dry so they haven't gained much ground but HoloEN has to do something soon and the girls need to get their shit together.

>All these malding against EN management
anons, the management is incompetent dogshit, we all know that but do you really believe the girls are innocent in this? Aren't you the same ones who constantly complain about girls being lazy and doing nothing??

>>41486840
The management is stopping them from streaming retard

Runt rat cover status?

>>41486846
As other anon have pointed out, you don't have to limit the blame on one thing.

>>41486846
>Everyone is one person
If you look at the per gen hours streamed EN is percectly normal.

>>41486681

>>41486828
bump your own channel stupid onion, your last stream is on new years

There is no way they will not debut EN3 in 2022 right?
There is no way they will not debut EN3 before Tempus2 right?
There is really no way EN3 won't be coming out before the end of 2023 right?

>>41486679
post vesperoni mem and it will be 10k upvotes, they just hate new fags

https://youtu.be/gbce3yRBuD8
1 Million

>>41486846
>Aren't you the same ones who constantly complain about girls being lazy and doing nothing??
this wouldn't be a problem if they had more girls
half of holojp doesn't fucking stream as well
it's literally just because they haven't sped up debuts, it's on management

>>41486869
>Song numbers before 1 fucking day passes
KILL YOURSELF

>>41486770
The weirdest thing about this is the artist/animator. Unless I'm missing something I went down both of his channels and it's all girls stuff, mostly JP, occasionally EN and ID. Makes it stand out in an odd way, not a good way.

>>41486846
Kronii, gura and ina are lazy whores. The rest at least try but majority of them are absolute runts. Mumei is also a lazy whore and only wakes up whenever the branch is half dying

>>41486846
Sure the girls could certainly be doing more but shit always rolls downhill. Management being incompetent and downright malicious kills the motivation of the girls which leads to them not feeling up for streaming all the time. It ultimately comes down to management.

>>41486840
>so they haven't gained much ground
But they did. Actually the situation is a very close parallel to what happened to Nijisanji before 2019.
Holos, individually, couldn't touch the numbers Mito (for instance) was bringing back then but Niji mid and low carders were not bringing anything new so it was a matter of time until Hololive reached critical mass and overtook them.

>>41486465
https://twitter.com/rei_Toya_rei/status/1617039087260827648
Chinman will smack Selen silly

>>41486465
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjuAIIe0Op0
^ isn't this gold? 60k
or was it a premiere?

>>41486935
Hololive overtook niji when myth debut btw

>>41484968
2M-3M 10hrs
3M-4M 20hrs
So she needs 1.15M per day
Usually the sub-7 day 10M Jpop does not have this huge drop.

>>41486882
Not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmN-iBaQLZY

Due to popular demand, we're giving Tempus an AR concert. Your voice has been heard, your wish will be granted.

not on her birthday...

>>41486972
Premiere

>>41486935
It's not the same. NijiEN's last 2 waves are both total flops and viewership across the entire branch has reclined (including Luxiem). Hololive was gaining momentum on everything they did back then while the opposite is happening for NijiEN. NijiEN being absolute shitters is what is saving HoloEN right now but they need to get their shit together soon.

>>41486935
Anon? NijiEN numbers are still shit.

>>41486974
coco*

>>41486961
Not on his channel

>>41487004
retard onion

>>41486961
Good, that is an acceptable outcome.

>>41487017
>>41487025
They're still getting a concert before holoEN, management has shown its commitment to continue supporting nijiEN while holo management is smothering their EN branch with malicious incompetence

>>41487025
Aside from that, Luxiem numbers hass also gone to shit. They don't have a dramatic rise when coco, aqua, fbk started gaining traction

>>41487017
>>41487025
The original claim was that "NijiEN haven't gained much ground". I disagree with that.
I am not saying they already overtook HoloEN or that they're close to but it is undeniable that they gained a LOT of ground over HoloEN and recent numbers show just that.

aqua stream...

>>41487074
Why the fuck are you trying to deflect to getting an online concert now? First you talked about nijiEN going to have a similar incline like HoloJP in 2020, but in fact, they didn't. Now you're talking out of your ass because you lost the argument.

>>41487074
obviously Niji have to support them otherwise they will fall to NijiID and NijiKR level, and they dont want the repeat of merging the branch

>>41486974
Sankisei*

>Iroha 10k with Kirby
Is Iroha getting stronger? I'm seeing her much more often in the tally nowadays

I love omega and EN management

>>41484666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-VhJ6g6W7w
"your wish has been heard "

>>41487092
What ground? Their numbers are still shit. Elira is still a 2-3k shitter after the 3D debut. No one is gonna remember her afterwards. Luxiem all had return streams yesterday and none off them breached 6 or 7k.

>>41487115
Anon, there are more than one person talking around this subject. You are clearly responding to some unrelated anon, not to the one you think

>>41487034
Apologize!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-VhJ6g6W7w

>>41487031
That blonde dude got quite a boost everytime he collabs with Chinman no? Also Nippleman got way higher floor than that low4view

>>41487134
>0 overlap JP
I mean, almost every JP would hit 10k in this scenario

>>41487034
id tell you to calm down and watch some streams but you seem to be to much of a sperg to enjoy good entertainment

>>41487140
won't even break 20k
onion has reclined

>>41487092
they can't do 5k on a normal stream, and it's getting worse, 30k event means nothing if ppl don't stay to watch streams

>>41487166
Iroha is overlapping Subaru with 21k

>>41487157
ok I kneel

>>41487167
the title literally says 新年 dumbo, plus jan 3 is still new years

>>41487134
she got a return boost like other holos have had in the past and managed to somewhat keep it

>>41487092
Is that why they’re doing worse than before? Hell Vox is near his debut average.

>>41487170
no such thing
easy 20K

>>41487166
Why are you a nigger?

>>41487185
new years is jan 1 dumbo
stop moving goalposts like a fag
next thing you;re gonna say is june 20th is new years kek

New years is today faggots.

.t chink

Man, Bae's new cover is pretty good, shame about the numbers
Why is Bae the only EN that has both good taste in music and is actually producing it?

>>41487164
That's not nippleman, is it? It's Leos.

>>41487206
>Deleted
Be proud of where you're from faggot

>>41487092
maybe anykara need extra money to convince investor that they will meet the trajectory growth or revenue for NijiEN ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Do people not thinking rationally anymore?

Nijisanji skipped 3D for exNijiID, exNijiKR, and some NijiJP just to push forward PAID 3D (prerecorded) events for NijiEN definitely to have its stock price increase.

YET you guys are shitting on Holo for not doing the same?

Remember Holo has Holofes which includes all branches unlike Nijifes

>>41487232
outted for being an imbecile zhang and unable to read basic titles

>>41487268
She's a fan of music. Simple as.

>>41487268
She’s the idol of the group. The rest are streamers.

>>41487092
imo the brand has gained ground (as shown by their increasing event/collab ceilings) but some of their individual floors have collapsed a bit.
well, that's ultimately a win for niji since that's the way their business model works

>>41487288
>jan 3rd
>new years
lmao lmao roru
just take the L dumbo

>>41487278
ID/KR (bar Hana) did not hit 100k before EN, and some NijiJP had their 3D debuts before EN even though EN hit 100k first.

>>41487278
>HoloX get 3D before Council and ID2
>Shilled full gen concert with giga buff senpai buffs

Sure they don't.

>>41487278
NijiEn is almost half their Revenue in half the time. Of course they're getting prioritized right now.

Why are you guys angry again?

>>41487278
let them mald today, monday they will get to know not everything is what it seems...... Raid shadow sponsorship and now this, Niji is hurting

>>41487278
Who would Myth be skipping over if they did their 3D showcase now?

>>41487278
Cover already skipped ID1, ID2, Myth and Council to push PAID and unpaid 3D (prerecorded) events for HoloJP...

>>41487278
unrelated but ID1 already got their 3D showcase and what's stopping Cover for Myth 3D

>>41487332
youtube roasties piss me off with their shadowbans

>>41487278
>unlike Nijifes
All branches were there though.

>>41487273
You might be mistaken love, I'm not from where you think I am, I deleted it since the sisters might get me, too much of a hassle right now just to use another IP

>>41487269
Ah I don't pay attention, their names all sound the same to me

>>41487332
Cover keeps prioritizing JP over EN.

>>41487332
just the discord sisters samefagging
they never take the win and just celebrate

>>41487368
how??

>>41487362
I never thought too much about where you're from.
I think it's the reason. You should always act like where you live is the best regardless of what it's actually like.
t. Scottish

>>41487332
Pekora threw away a perfect month with a jrpg. Ok, maybe not angry, more like salty. God damn how I wanted to see only 30k+ streams this month.

>>41487368
you just got a new gen

>>41487368
EN is a dead end. All they have access to is the convention circuit. JPs can go anywhere.

>>41487320
yeah tell that to the holos

>>41487384
By not giving EN a full branch concert

>>41487268
IRyS is the only other one that cares but management decides all her music for her.
The only other ones with decent voices (mumei and gura) can't be bothered

>>41487332
NijiEN giving everyone 3D/3D showcases and their own concert within the next few months. While Cover sits on its ass shitting out homos.

>>41487430
>IRyS 2 covers cares
RORU RUMAO

Kanataso doko

>>41487332
Pekora streaming a shitty game

>>41487415
>not giving full branch concert
anon, how can Myth have full gen anything if Gura is on hiatus and Ina just returned from one
how can Council have a concert if ID2 debuted first and they are next

>>41487430
>princess irys
>cares
roru

>>41487199
Gura can easily get 20k.

Stop watching nijishitty and holoshit, watch some real vtubers instead.

>>41487384
>how

Brother. You tell me. All of 2022 was just a desert for EN while JP partied like no tomorrow. Concerts, summer swimsuits, JP only giga events. EN? Nah you fund your own shit. Ame can handle it.

https://youtu.be/t81SOMmgPYQ

gold contender or not?

>>41487151
>>41487177
>30k event means nothing if ppl don't stay to watch streams
Here is the list of 10k+ streams by both branches.
>pic related
it has 2022 and 2023 and 2022 was smack in the middle of CCVID so it is already a worst case scenario for HoloEN.

It's not possible to look at this and say NijiEN is not "gaining ground". They are, at very least, in a stronger position than in January 2022 while HoloEN is in a weaker position.
And that's because Ina returned, without her that list would be much shorter in 2023.

>Risu shows up in hologra
>They start talking about anal toys
Can't make it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ54uUV41-k

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7T4kIqwElQ
>Phony is over 300k line again
What happened? First Take power?

>>41487394
You should watch holoEN then.

I just cant picture kronii or mori doing idol thing, EN not doing 3D concert is actually good

>>41487551
Hoshiyomis trying their hardest (and still failed) to stop Kobo from taking the first place.

>>41487541
Too slow pops
>>41486681

>>41439452
Late but yeah, I remember Ame's voice lines got leaked here
https://files.catbox.moe/ncbtsc.mp4
I don't remember if any other voice lines got leaked but I guess none of those recordings are ever going to be seen again

>>41487468
Trying to get back with Coco because she close to lose their wedding ring

>>41487527
>ID didnt get anything either till recently
you might want to rephrase since JP will always be prioritized against foreign branches

>>41487074
It’s not that EN management doesn’t want to support, they just don’t really want to support the girls. That’s understandable, girls have cooties or are whores or whatever, right?

>>41487483
That's not an obstacle if management were actually serious about supporting EN and giving them the events they deserve.

>>41487590
botan's leaked iirc

>>41487551
is it always 30 songs? I remember it's 50

>>41487553
The only ones that want to do idol stuff are Kiara and bae anyways. Gura is finished with hololive and the only other one who has expressed desires of doing a 3dlive is handicapped by shitty self esteem

>>41487569
Kobo will take next week's first place again

kek Ollie seems shy about her unexpected big #

>>41487553
Based retardGOD.
Just ignore Mori’s Sololive or her minilive or her appearance at VCarnival or her appearance at Zutto Mayo’s concert or her upcoming live show.

>>41487455
Wait what? You actually mean everyone? Even the shitluna and lolisex shitters? No way right?

>>41487455
NijiEN will be shitting out 5-10 more dudes soon, too.

>>41487625
Now do a hand cam again you fucking retard

>>41487625
She skipped the RUST incline arc? Most ID girls got good numbers back then

>>41487594
>ID

We're talking about EN and JP here. You know. The branch that rivaled JP until a whole year of zero support killed them off.

>>41487368
Stop trying to redirect the incompetence of EN management to Cover as a whole.

>>41487614
>shitty self esteem
She should go back and watch the older lives then. Things were a lot different before Suisei started raising the bar.
https://youtu.be/FQcrvOZHfIE

>>41487552
>streamer debuffs herself which affects her numbers
>numbersagi salty due to it affecting pekora's numbers
>mouthbreather with a dented forehead: YoU sHoUlD wAtCh HoLoEn ThEn

>>41487663
EN was mogging JP in every metric before Cover sabotaged their numbers by not providing any support, that has nothing to do with EN management and everything to do with JP HQ

>>41485532
Has the ccp fallen yet? Say that after they fall people might actually think about it

https://youtu.be/0eO8F4ingHs
Why is the spic like this? Doesn't he realize the more he wants to collab with the girls the less likely it will happen

>>41487598
I remember someone said that Kiara's been bringing up how management has to beg the girls after a deadline passes to get them to do their stuff
I can see why management is mad because of that or maybe the reason the girls do that is that they are angry at management

>>41487551
The cutoff was before Suisei's TFT got announced

>>41487679
Anon mumei legitmately has a self esteem disability. It's not fixable

>>41487663
the incompetence are from the ones who hired the en management

>>41487687
This is a silly cope considering the EN girls are the first to complain about their own management

>>41487698
Qrd? I'm not giving this spic a view.

>>41487663
How in the flying fuck does EN management have anything to do with anything? They are literal middlemen that go back and forth to the main JP management to be told what to do.

>>41487690
>Has the ccp fallen yet
Anytime now, maybe this year? Next year? Is that a new crack in the three gorges damn? This will be the year! I'm sure of it!

>>41487625
alright, open vc?

>>41487630
Thats not idol, he will invite tempiss and tempoop in next concert

>>41487703
What a weird profession to choose then, to become a professional entertainer

>>41487708
They're not complaining about their managers like Jenma, they're complaining about shitty upper management

>>41487637
At some point, you have to imagine girls will give up trying to audition for NijiEN and HoloEN considering they’re not getting in in favor of more guys. They’ll be forced to remain indie or audition
/remain in smaller corpos. Kinda weird seeing a female-dominated hobby turn into a sausage fest like with traditional streaming.

>>41487745
"Entertainer"
I don't watch mumei to be entertained. I watch her to fall asleep to a cute girl talking.

>>41487726
I mean ID management could setup a 3D Live for HoloID so

>>41486311
>HoloEN Management -
Gura's tweets
ina's 3 month ghosting

I love Pekora

>>41487766
ID isn't competition to JP numbers-wise while EN was, no shit JP management will greenlight a 3D live for ID.

>>41487708
When they complain about management it could be as broad as a fucking bus.

>>41485995
It will break even at some point they will probably shill it going forward since the game is already made and is marketable no way they don't break even on that atleast

>>41487738
Eigo Jouzu!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvmiww_kl4

Marine's utawaku from tuesday is back after it was contentID blocked by Ghibli. It came back with 340k views after being a 38k ccv max stream when live.

This is a rare case study where we get to see fully processed vod viewcount without contamination from lagging viewers. It's one data point but it suggests a 9x multiplier from max ccv to what kind of vod views to expect from a 2 hour stream.

>>41487766
ID1 got 3D live concerts? Do you mean 3D showcases for ID1? Which were way overdue mind you.

>>41487745
She gets a shit ton of money while working towards whatever other things she wants to do in life. Who wouldnt want that?

HoloEN right now is like WWE but without all the monthly events like Summerslam/Survivor Series/Royale rumble etc.
And instead of getting more wrestlers they added mascots instead.

>>41486873
Too bad everyone is blaming one thing while ignoring the other things

>>41487827
next month area15 will have a 3d live, they said so or idk

>>41487698
>>41487717
>Qrd
Chat homobegging, instead of shutting them down he went
>yeah, that would be fine
>I would like that
Nothing egregious but poor form anyway

Will other NijiEN waves get 3D debuts before their 3D live?

>>41487717
neutral "would be cool if it happened" stance

>>41487755
Watch >>41484984 again, they're clearly complaining about the staff that handle their projects on the EN side

>>41487847
Sounds like you want to blame one side (the girls) while defending that garbage called EN management. Yes, they share blame, but it is the ones that are supposed to manage the branch that get most of the blame.

>>41487866
Maybe Obsydia, but not Ethyria/Luxiem/Noctyx.

>>41487847
Just fire the entire EN management and graduate everyone from EN and start from ground up.

...

Seething nijinigger
https://twitter.com/uJPlm2js8RtTKDK/status/1616845343328718853
https://twitter.com/uJPlm2js8RtTKDK/status/1600053178707238912

Hey don't worry, Bae and Mumei might get their outfits in the next couple months!

>>41487858
I had no idea. Well either way Area51 should have had this shit done years ago. They are older than Gen 5 for fuck sake.

>>41487866
I doubt, but they might get it after like Lazulight did

>>41487886
I can see some sisters will be mad if Luxiem/Noctyx will debut their 3D behind the paywall

>muh talent lazy
>muh management incompetent
how about you look in the mirror?

>Gets given lifetime opportunity
>doesn’t stream
Based.

>>41487898
>change.org
kek

>>41487917
These aren't debuts. They'll get proper 3D debut streams later.

>>41487902
After holofes anon

>>41487892
Or just let the branch die and focus on JP alone

>Pekora stream
>I watch

>>41487898
the real question is, which side is the nigger on?

>>41487930
Doesn't she have a live concert in a few days?