/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

bots

We have 1 confirmed EN going into the new Minecraft Server so hopefully she can drag Mumei's ass in with her because she's nervous to go alone since she's shy and afraid to bump into the JPs.

>>41472903
I fucking love big tits

Suisei and Pekora are the 2 most valuable hololive members

>>41472982
the sky is blue

>>41472982
Add Mori to that list.

(repost)
I heard that the apex tournament CRcup is the last one. Why.. it’s getting good numbers. 200k total ccv (100k from main channel, 60k kuzuha, 40k twa plus others.). Someone should contact EA and tell them they’re losing market share if they let it die.

>>41473047
Blame EA

Kaela passed bae holly crap? That's how bad holo en is right now.

>>41472982
Add Hex Haywire to that list. STARS finally has their own Vox

>>41472963
I thought she got scared after breaking the bunkeronii door, that set up was too shallow in the first place and should have been more well lit.

Selen gold today?

>>41472867
There's no fucking way all these tiny normie react channels suddenly decided to react to Suiseis First Take on the day it was released coincidentally though. Someone is spreading the word in the youtuber sphere that Hololive content is easy views

>>41473103
What the fuck is the point of bae

>>41473036
Suisei and Pekora are blue too

>>41473103
>Kaela and Moona mogging homolover and homo
INDOCHADS

>>41473087
Happy for Kaela. She deserves all the best. Bae deserves a mating press

>>41473047
EA is a company that is known for making consumer and business friendly decisions

>>41473092
isn't that guy a niji

>>41472982
You forgot Miko, faggot. Pekora has no mindshare outside of HoloJP.

>>41473126
probably, there's a few people that react to hololive along with other normie stuff and their hololive stuff blows up.

>>41473126
Well someone needs to spread the word that Niji content will get views too.

>>41473087
Bae is doing an afterparty, these streams are such debuffs unless you are Mori that Mumei and Bae had a 5k collab combined ccv in an empty slot

>>41473142
She’s the idol.

>>41473047
>not holding algs lan in japan meanwhile valorant knows where the real viewers are.

>>41473266
Natural Incline

>>41472982
Gura is clearly the most valuable hololive member. Who gets taco bell sponsorship? Yeah that's right only gura.

No EN3 and no JP7. Now can we PLEASE watch Tempus!!??

>>41473286
A-anon...

>>41473126
All those channels keep an ear to the ground for anything that might get good numbers

>>41473294
Idol that can't sing
Idol that's a homobeggar
Idol that has the most annoying voice known to man
Sure thing

>>41473142
She is just dumb zoomer eye candy. You go to her streams to jack off and leave.

>>41473103
why do they do afterparties? isn't it better to just do a karaoke and release at the end or something

>>41473316
I'm watching indies instead

>>41470968
>twitch takeover
What even came out of that?

>>41472982
Marine's music unironically has more mainstream appeal than Suisei, which explains why she has so many more subs

>>41473216
Anonchama, why would a niji copy an active member of their own company, in their own branch, barely 2-3 waves apart

>>41473315
>Doesn't do anything for over a month
>Hololive is still in full force and keeps inclining

>>41473266
getting really close there

NijiJP should also do a WrestleSanji thing, I have no doubt it will be popular given their huge roster

>>41473266
How did the numbers thread predict it so exactly? They said it would be 30k - 35k
Actually kind of amazing how good you autists are at this

>>41473372
Selen isn't an Idol, why are you even talking about her she's getting good numbers today.

>>41473142
Homo cheerleader?

>>41473047
People are getting tired of Apex, entire pro teams are disbanding, and the devs are absolutely massive shit stains so they don't fix anything.

>>41473266
im surprised the drop off after fights isn't more pronounced

>>41473142
Pekora of holoEN

>>41473372
>Idol that can't sing

sure things nijisis

>>41473405
That's only true for Treasure Box because of the tiktok zoomers.
Her other songs are already reclining.

>>41473094
Nah she's just only interested in playing with other people now

>Bae's viewers
where did the saplings go, holosisters?
no overlap and still pathetic numbers

>>41473092
Anon that's a Niji...

>>41473380
I can't jack off to an Aussie accent anon. I can jack off to kronii's tits and mumei's autism though

>>41473415
Her fans is buffing other members.

>>41473094
That incident gave her general Minecraft anxiety, she never really had direction in Minecraft anyways but now even logging in alone is too much for her

>>41473482
What could have been... Wasted the sex model on some dumb zoomer who can't interact with others on a kino level like peko.

>>41473519
I'm watching Kaela. I want her sponsorship to do well.

>>41473519
they didn't survive the tsunami, sinkhole, and meteors...

>>41473142
Bae is the Kiara of Council.
Actual Idol Background/Talent, but stuck in a wave of E-Girl normies.

>>41473519
Afterparty debuff

>>41473142
Selen should've been her

>>41473446
They did it like 3 years ago mate

>29k viewers
>Sub 16k votes
Explain yourselves Nijisisters

>>41473435
Raid boss Gawr Gura. Can't match her individually but if we send all of NijiEN, there may be a chance. God dammit Luka don't stand in the fire! -50DKP

>>41473447
The 30-35k guy was me. I don't even watch Niji, it was just a logical extrapolation from the NKODice tourney.

>Fire Emblem Engage drawn by Mika Pikazo will likely end up being the best selling game in Japan in the series since the SNES
>Bae's design is the most sex of Council
>Still a shitter and the runt of her gen

How did it end up this way

>>41473415
>biting obvious bait

>>41473507
Mori, Kiara, irys, mumei, gura and ina are all better singers than bae

>>41473142
I'll be looking forward to when she makes your ass kneel next month

>>41473565
She's basically pekora but better but for some reason EN fans don't want to watch her.

>>41473583
Bae IS the e-girl normie what do you mean lmao

>>41473583
Council is full of zoomer E-girl normies. Myth had some actual people with charisma and talent.

>>41473103
Is this the only special thing HoloEN can do nowadays? Sing a cover, do an afterparty, rinse and repeat? Talents from the other company, no matter how shitty they are, at least have varied events. Is this the effect of complacency and laziness?

>>41473663
e-girls actually know about the internet and are obsessed with memes, you are confusing others and yourself

>>41473641
A good design and company can only take you so far, anon

>>41473447
30-35k is a big range, not something I’d brag about. And there were enough anons who were thinking a little under 30k. But for those who do get it right once you’ve been numberfagging for a while you can just get a “feel” for it based on context and general observations

>>41473636
Reminds of gigabuffed Salome vs Holo in the Gold tally.

>>41473668
>Myth had some actual people with charisma and talent.

>>41473644
>gura
>ina
>mumei

yea sure nijisis

>>41473641
She talks like she has shit in her mouth and it's never anything interesting unless she's licking another Holo's boots

Shitposting aside, is there any reason not to do a buff stream, like karaoke, funneling into your premiere (cover/original)?

why do vtubers just upload a song and do a stream (a zatsu at that) right after?
I would assume karaoke->song would be better compared to song->zatsu

>>41473047
If you think EA are retarded (they are) wait until you hear about Blizzard

>>41473641
Good to hear Engage is doing well. Only thing I heard about it was the combat is improved BUT the social aspects are worse, and we all know which one is more important

>>41473663
Bae is a genuine weeb in a class full of ironic ones.

>>41473775
It's true. Bae karaokes are not that good, she sounds great on covers tho

>>41473656
>She's basically pekora but better
Anon...I gave Bae a fair chance and she's nothing like Pekora. She has zero wit or situational awareness to play off her chat. Her main gimmick is screeching very loudly and repeating the same thing 4-6 times.

>>41473647
Really anon? She'll go back to being.a 2-3k shitter right after her birthday where she spams buff content for 20 days straight and gets 0 new dedicated viewers because she's an untalented and boring streamer

>>41473656
How is Bae better? I gave her a chance mind you. She's just awful in group collabs. However, I just don't think she had the supporting cast around her to make her "shenanigans" meaningful because Council was full of autistic prudes.

>>41473644
She sounded really good live today, I might have to remove Ina, Kiara and Mori from that list

>>41473641
Talent problem. There is a girl that is drawn by my favourite artist who also drew for Suzumiya Haruhi LN but she is an absolute shitter than only a certain thread likes.

Theres no way that out of 100+ Nijis all of them are bad like this thread seems to portray. Some of them have to be good. Why aren't those ones talked about?

>>41473278
Love to see it. There was some holocure guy too, I think. He was good at vampire slayer already, so not as big a boost iirc but still

>>41473647
Anon last Febaerary was literally her just leeching off other people with collabs hosted on her channel. A good fucking chunk was her dragging in IRyS or Fauna for a Collab and when they weren't collabs they didn't do all that well

>>41473775
Bae is fucking shit during karaokes. You can't say otherwise or else you're just deaf. Luckily for her processing helps her out unlike mumei/gura whom sound incredible during karaokes and sound like shit after processing

>>41473641
>Fire Emblem Engage drawn by Mika Pikazo will likely end up being the best selling game in Japan in the series since the SNES
Source? I don't see sales data anywhere

>>41473663
>>41473668
>Bae E-Girl?
>Can Sing
>Fluent JP
>Can Dance

Just cause she’s a ZOOMER doesn’t mean she is some NORMIE pretender. The other girls can barely sing or dance, wtf was YAGOO thinking.

Damn, now I understand why the spic is trying so hard to leech from Kaela.

>>41473830
yea sure if thats makes you happy

>>41473914
Even in NijiEN there are only like five or six who are frequent offenders

>>41473914
All nijis are rotten

Kaela just apologized for being boring

Na market is a meme, just look at esports numbers, na market will be the first to thrive and then other regions like russians, spics, hues and aseans will catch up meanwhile na will decline. It happened to dota2, cgso and valo is going through the same trend too. This trend seems to applied to holoen too. 3 years is probably the time before na viewers get bored with their hobby.

>>41472982
marine is more valuable than suisei
i agree with pekora

>>41473680
Hey! Bae going to be on first take one day!

>>41473780
It unironically takes effort and EN girls are lazy. Do you think Pekora naturally has 30k to 40k streams? No, those are buff. Her real number is around 20k as we've seen yesterday. It is only because Pekora often do buffs that her numbers are higher. Most JPs do buff streams all the time.

People are being dishonest here. Bae is a decent live singer as well. She's no where near IRyS/gura/mumei live but she holds her own against everyone else

>>41473982
I tried to watch that homo because MC but dude is boring as fuck. The 'just a worse vesper' thing is true

>>41473761
Yeah? Gura, Kiara, Mori, Ina and Ame all had things going for them. When I look at Council they all just blend together. What was the point of them?

>>41473636
Raid boss of EN vtuber is pretty underwhelming. You will easily get those kind of numbers in JP on a daily basis.

>>41473972
I literally listened to her today and she sounded great when she re-sang her live cover like 10 minutes ago

>>41473914
Chinman and King get shitposted here a lot, but I'm sure deepdown us numberfags love them. We can be quite tsun sometimes.

>>41473981
Being able to sing or dance doesn't make you a good streamer, otherwise this thread would never suck off Pekora.
The hard truth is that western viewers don't really care about the idol journey.

is this the anti thread

>>41473982
It's not leeching if they're in the same group (Holotori)

>>41474065
I mean, it's true if you compare it to ollie

>Celebration stream vs ID gaming stream #1141241
The EN branch is so fucked

>>41474065
Shes bad.

>>41473840
>>41473875
She as entertaining as pekora as a streamer but she have other talents like singing and dancing.

Why the fuck are you faggots shitposting an after party? didn't Mubae have that one 5k after queen?
These streams are notorious debuffs

>>41474004
>All
>Fulgur, Vox, and maybe Finana
I swear half of the SEAfriends who spam this screenshot haven't even read it

Bae is chaos. 1.5 years later and /#/ still can’t figure her out.

>>41474095
People have hateboners for bae. Idk why irystocrats/chumbuds/hoomans try to put bae's singing down when she's really not as bad as they say

>>41473142
She's the Australian holo

>>41474067
He’s for the girls basically, if you’re a dude and watching him you might be a homosexual.
It’s kind of like that new IDOLEN Juna chick, deep Korean voice talking about absolutely nothing.

>>41473982
discount vesper holy shit, 10 zatsudan from 28 stream, for me that's a lot of zatsu maybe too much

>>41474013
Even LOL is reclining, they got disappointing numbers today (first day of LEC), NBA reclining too, soccer reclining, anime reclining, videogames reclining. Where the fuck is everybody?

>>41474172
>as entertaining
>everyone's last choice to watch in holoENa nd gets murdered if someone else is streaming at the same time
yeah no

>>41473955
Yea but he played all vampire survivor like games, so I consider him a more legit than these react types. The game just happened to be part of the genre he targets. I don't mind the react streamers that break down the music and lyrics and such but the ones that just make that stupid face and talk about how they liked whatever shit they put on are trash to me.

>>41474095
This
Why the fuck are these faggots who claim her live singing sucks are ignoring this, I'll never know

>>41474004
>All out war: Rushia happened and still unresolved to this day
>Lux/noc actually earn similar amount of money if you calculate SCs only
>Council actually didn't do as well as Myth, or people expecting them to be
>Hololive tech issues is actually in shambles
>Mysta is actually a menhera
Only Shu was wrong here because he was retarded and Millie's statement is not about events.

>>41474128
Numbers, news, uuu when Fauna isnt streaming, main pekora split, sub mans split (unwillingly)

>>41473972
I agree with you, but I do wonder if anyone can try to explain without shitposting why Bae sounds good in recordings but not as good in karaoke, while Mumei and Gura can sound great in karaokes but not as good in recordings? Bae’s situation I can understand, but how is it possible to come off worse with a carefully selected recording and post-processing?

>>41474065
No matter what anyone here says, bae's million miles away cover is dogshit

WTF HAPPENED TO BAE THIS IS SO SAD

Holy shit how to move all holoEN to japan? All of them are fucking lazy and actively get sabotaged by the niji-loving EN management.

>>41474095
She sounded pretty meh, couldn't control her breath at all and consistently slight out of pitch, just like all her other karaokes. She has many tiny imperfections that add up to alot. She's not bad but she definitely isn't great and doesn't possess any significant amount of singing talent.

>>41474266
ww3

>>41474225
bae is the only one can pull off when she has a cover/new song she can sing it live with no problem

>>41474303
Homo collab

>>41474172
Pekora sings and dances too. I mean the fact that Bae is the runt of HoloEN speaks volumes about her content.

>>41474321
These sound like copypaste hamfisted critiques out of thin air, she sounded clean to me and I never thought she was once out of breath or out of pitch

ALL OUT WAR

>>41474303
Please understand, management are too busy watching niji to remind her to shilltweet the cover.

>>41473599
Times have changed and there are a fuckton of new livers. It's time to make a new one.

>>41474065
I agree she’s decent. But it’s just interesting how much she improves when recording, in a way that some of the other girls can’t.

>>41474303
Come home, Bae, to Malaysia.

>>41473914
There's not really any reason to talk about the nijis I like here.

>>41474395
>Speaks volumes
>but anon can’t define exactly what

>>41474070
You have nostagia goggles or are a Holodrone. I barely watch Holos at all but I don't see what Myth has going for them over Council. Only Mori and Ina stand out to me in any way, and in ways that aren't relevant to them as streamers.

>>41474303
She's supposed to be the leader of council...

>>41474271
It's because EN fans only watch lazy members like gura.

keep talking about bae

>>41474071
That's in the next expansion with better gear and higher stat caps. Gura's best we got in this zone.

>>41474303
Aussie DEBUFF
Aussies are only popular with Sisters

>>41474443
No, to starsEN. Why is she resisting becoming an accessory. Let the nijification flow through you, Bae. You'll get so much project funding

>>41474403
I don't know what to tell you. She's always consistently slightly out of pitch. If you can't hear that I really don't know what to tell you.
Breath wise she has improved but it's still pretty bad and I really hate how bae always starts on the wrong pitch and has to slide to the correct one doing harder notes.

So NijiEN will have a 3D concert in April?

>>41474303
I hope Bae streams for more than 2 hours because she's just about ready to get mogged by Fauna in SCs too despite this after party...

Nijien first 5 waves will have their own 3d AR live

>>41473604
niji is not culled at all

Lazulight, Ethyria, Luxiem and Noctyx all got 3D and will perform April 8-9 in a live AR event.

seems like nijien just announced some big 3d thing with most of their members

>>41473899
Kotone...

NijiEN concert in april. All waves from lazulight to noctyx will be on it

>>41474273
Yeah, I stopped watching eventually, but he seemed legit. I wouldn't mind watching him play when the update comes out. Agree on your points.

>>41474278
It's not about being right or wrong you fucking retard

today's slate is utter dogshit, selen global gold is looking unexpectedly likely right now

>>41474688
cover is so fucking incompetent holy shit

>>41474633
Maybe provide me a timestamped sample of your critiques after the archive is up?

>>41474430
Bae goes to a studio to record her covers across multiple days with tons of takes. Gura and mumei literally sit in their setups and sing without any studio equipment.
JP processing also cancels out all the oddities and nice timbres in their voices, making them sound vocaloid esque half the time

>>41474688(me)
Obsydia too, I'm retarded kek

>>41473979
COMG! rankings and japanese retailers impressions. Usually right on the money like Splatoon 3 having the biggest opening in Japan (before Pokemon SV), Demon Slayer Switch blowing away Playstation sales, Soul Hackers 2 doing badly, other smaller stuff like Tsukihime Switch outselling the PS4 version. Anyway don't want to derail the thread further since the sales will get posted on thursday.

>>41474097
yeah im sure we love them sister

This is honestly embarassing for HoloEN. They get absolutely no fucking support.

>>41474266
What the hell NA want?

>>41474767
How? All the HoloENs are getting 3D this March.

>>41474028
Good holo vs holo.

>>41474395
Pekora can't sing and can't dance. Pekora is the inferior version of Bae.

>>41474858
drama
the only buff left

This is paywalled right?

>>41474278
>Council actually didn't do as well as Myth, or people expecting them to be
You faggots keep trying to excuse Fulgur over this statement when HE HIMSELF APOLOGIZED for it and realized he was in the wrong and even had an on-stream cry session about it.
It would be if like Sana was caught saying
>yeah Noctyx didn't do as well as they expected
No one expected Noctyx to overtake Luxiem, no one expected Council to overtake Myth.

>>41474918
Pekora is actually entertaining
Can't say the same about Bae

>>41474858
Drama and React content.

>>41474938
>drama
Fuck... Burgers truly like conflict indeed

>>41474480
Oh really? Ame is good with tech and 3D shit and would be more of an asset if Cover actually paid for a studio for EN. Gura is Iconic at this point and a good comedian. Kiara is an actual Hololive fan through and through. Council is what? Fucking Kronii voice? Fauna ASMR person #389216 that make the same fucking sounds? Mumei the kind of singer but not really. Sana the only one with promise in art but graduated. And that leaves Bae. What in the fuck does she even bring to the table? She speaks JP??? Thats it? Wow, Myth has 3 of those.

>>41474992
Bae is actually very entertaining I say on par with pekora.

>>41474918
>Bae can't dance
Wwwww

>>41474900
nah i like marine more than suisei

>>41474980
He talked about the leaked screenshot on stream? You have the stream where he did this?

>>41474097
We've always liked King and Chinman. The numbers horseracing was just for fun and bantz. It's just that retarded tourists came in here at some point to engage in shitflinging circlejerks. The Holo EN vs HoloEN vs Niji EN posters are especially bad.

>>41474974
yes

>>41473142
reality check for you to realize how old you are

>>41474918
https://youtu.be/jgoJuJiWtf4?t=2001

>>41475074
Nah, Bae can’t make jokes. She only repeats chats jokes. She’s said it herself that’s she’s not funny, just genki.

How the fuck did nijien get a concert for themselves first than holoen?

>>41474278
The most baffling thing about this is and what people have ignored the most is that Finana thinks Lux/Noc actually make the same money than the most successful HoloJP members

>>41475082
Retard pls go away. Im talking about pekora.

Why does Bae have more mind chair when Fauna had bigger numbers?

>>41475225
Mori got her sololive. The rest of Myth are shitters.

I now understand that tempus dude who praised nijiEN management

>>41475268
bae design is way better

It's actually kinda impressive how hard HoloEN dropped the ball
No new gen in more than a year and nobody streaming or making events to make up for it
Honestly at this point nijiEN deserve to steal away what's left of the EN audience

>>41475137
Oldfags take number tally for funsies
Newfags take number tally seriously
Just look the difference in /#/ before and after Luxiem

>>41475268
Mika Pikazo vs Literal who

Why are people pilling on Bae suddenly?
>inb4 hurr durr runt, we make fun of it
She's pulling the same numbers as ever.

There's nothing wrong with bae. She likes hololive. She's a decent singer that puts out alot of covers. She works hard and she's entertaining(sometimes)
Stop shitting on bae. Shit on someone like kronii/mumei instead who don't care as much and do the same kusoge/depression chatting about life content everytime they stream

>>41474688
AR event? you have an example?

>>41475225
You doubted accelerate.

>>41475137
>We've always liked King and Chinman
>Chinman
Nah, fuck that dude. The Peanut Botter can suck my nuts. Fake botting asshole.

>>41475393
Last year's NJU. The one they were just rebroadcasting.

>>41475354
It's mostly just shitposting don't take it seriously. At least that's what I'm hoping and expecting from the average poster of this thread
After party streams always bring shit numbers

>>41475124
iirc, he did some vague posting about how made a "big mistake" early on and was on the verge of graduating, but millie saved him. saw it through a clip that was posted here

>>41475393
https://youtu.be/5VNbdnhYqtI

>>41474767
this happened

>>41475332
>Honestly at this point nijiEN deserve to steal away what's left of the EN audience
My fucking God I'm genuinely tired of you faggots.
Where are those 22k watching the HoloEN/StarsEN collab? Where will these people watching this wrestling match go after this? Guess what, they won't be around because they're fucking tourists. They don't particularly care about the talent, they just want to be there to say they were there. Selen will still be a 3k shitter. Nothing will change after this. For fuck's sake I'm tired of these posts.

>>41475225
We tried to tell you that management was sabotaging en

Holopro finally gives bae a simple retweet, then follows it up immediately with homo shilling.

>>41475354
>She's pulling the same numbers as ever
That's even grimmer

Bae releases another masterpiece of a cover. The sheer amount of quality shit she releases has made her my favorite HoloEN when it comes to music. It comes out consistently and the quality is off the charts. Damn shame the faggot EN fanbase won't listen to it.

>>41475343
It can't be helped. With how the thread works it, was inevitable.

Wait is NijiEN actually all getting 3D soon?

>>41475436
It doesn't sound as shitposting.

>>41474870
NTA but what’s big here is Nijisanji setting up an event exclusively for EN. It seems like they care more about their English branch than Cover does

>>41475170
Fuck off you don't watch Bae. If you actually watch her she's very entertaining.

>>41475498
This. I literally don't care if she's average singing live. I don't know why the en fanbase refuses to listen to quality covers.

>>41475498
I think this song MIGHT do better than blooming in the mud
The problem is that Bae always picks these really niche choices for songs however this one might catch some koreans and chinese eyes due to the theming

>>41475332
HoloEN needs a banger month in February because as a die hard Holofan it's kind of embarrassing how much NijiEN is mogging them when it comes to effort. NijiEN are organizing massive branch wide events while the HoloEN members can barely be assed to collab anymore. We need to have Council 3D showcases in February and we need to have EN3 announced at Holofes. If those two things don't happen I'm going to be very upset.

>>41475053
Good with tech and 3D shit is irrelevant, plenty of replacements who can do the same not to mention staff who can literally do that so Ame is just wasting effort. Also by good with 3D shit you mean good at commissioning assets from people who actually make 3D shit. Selen could replace her easily and be even better ar FPS to boot.
Iconic and a good comedian is also not a selling point and highly subjective. I can say the same about Ironmouse or Vesper, doesn't make it true. A lot of people don't find Gura funny at all.
Kiara's point is so sad, literally thousands of hololive fans out there, even some of the Council girls would qualify.
Your obsession with "talents" means you overrate people like Sana when what HoloEN needs is not more flaky artists or singers, but streamers.

>>41475458
>this is a 3view
the world is unfair

>>41475592
I swear if you think gura/mumei are somehow “quality”…

>>41475498
Yeah they are obviously waiting for gura's new music release.

Huh the Vesper split is actually doing pretty decent but why is it called tea

>>41475569
Bro I’m watching her right now. And It’s going down like every Bae stream before hand. She’s the butt of chat’s jokes, and she’s happy as that.

Just got back from playin Fire Emblem all day
Can someone tell me how every single NijiEN who streamed WWE had omega debuff numbers, NijiEN is at the lowest point in the past year+, everyone is getting sub 2k and even sub 1k, yet somehow they're pulling 32k for something that, as stated, was already an omega debuff that gave luxiem 3 sub 5k's and shu a 5k? And this is just round 1

>>41475608
She just needs to cover more zoomer shit like play dice. I hate that kinda of music (and I think play dice is shit) but its the type of song that is loopable and gets views

>>41475472
Guess what anon? Tourists are an important part of viewership and form a pipeline. From tourists you get casual viewers, from casual viewers you get hardcore fans. The idea of losing tourist mindshare isn’t something to be dismissed.

holokeks keeps losing...

>>41475756
he likes tea

>>41475756
doesn't he have some fixation on tea, i seem to remember him doing a tea tasting stream or something. I only saw it in the graph so maybe it was something else.

>>41473508
>coomer bait is too strong
a shame, I prefer her other songs

>>41475566
it's expected actually, well from anycolor financial report about the projection of EN branch

>>41475661
>selen

Oh, so you're a nijishitter. Could have said that before I schizo ranted at you.

>>41475781
shh don't question it, just accept their numbers, like how their 50k debut couldn't break 6k at any time in her 24 hour stream.

>>41475781
Why are you surprised, it's the same in NijiJP

This shit will always be funny to me
>OVERWHELMINGLY NA
>EU
>YEN
>CAD
vs
>USD and KR on the same scale
>everything else

>>41475814
/MANS/ sure has alot of creative minds huh

>>41475734
Gura doesn't release covers anon, and mumei's music is shit and not worth listening to. I'll listen to fucking fauna or ame's music over mumeis. You'll get better singing in her karaokes than her actual released music.

>>41475651
You're going to be very upset.

>>41475651
You can't have Council showcases because Myth STILL haven't gotten theirs

>>41475756
/tea/ is where /MANS/ sisters can vent about how they actually feel about the homos.
The actual thread is some turbofaggot hugbox, they unironically think Altare is a good addition.

That Niji EN Live is a dropped ball on the part of Cover. Letting Niji beat them to the punch like that is a bad look.

>>41475651
>We need to have Council 3D showcases
IRyS already said they have to go in order so it would be Myth first even though they've squandered everything by abusing their 3D already.

>>41475225
Forgetting someone?

>>41475651
>If those two things don't happen I'm going to be very upset.
oh you're going to be mad

>>41475884
Thank you music schizo, I thought I was replying to a retard.

>>41475937
>Sisters need a "4chan" for a 4chan thread

NijiEN management >>>> trash >>> HoloEN management.

>>41475566
Cover isn’t gonna force the girls to do a event when they’re overworked as it is.

>>41475865
I literally told you I don't watch Holo much and laid out why Myth isn't really that special. As someone who watches streams from multuple corpos, I watch more Council streams than Myth streams.

>>41476040
Eat shit and die Axel

>>41475225
Why? It's nijisanji en, they aren't singers or idols or anything of the sort? Is niji making them do it so the fans can shit all over the internet?

Bae’s learning English right now.

I hate EN management
I hate EN management
I hate EN management
I hate EN management
I hate EN management
When will they graduate?

>>41475651
Who the fuck wants another new Gen? I can hardly keep up with all of these fucking streams!

>>41475781
They were streaming character creation, this was the actual tournament. Come on guys.

>>41476018
>Tempoop caused /MANS/ to get raided by NijiMen Fujos
>One unironically started spamming Vox images
>Remaining Tempiss Fujos left to start /Tea/

>>41475566
Of course they care more about EN, they're milking them good and getting a lot of mindchairs. What's surprising is they're making them more like idols than hololive en ever be.

>>41476070
Yeah i feel bad for gura. She's clearly overworked as fuck but her fans wants her to organize more events.

>>41475225
EN management is useless if not straight up harmful. If the EN girls want anything they need to pray the JP management does something for them but they will always be under the JP branch shadow when they do it this way, understandably, never on their own.

>>41475808
JP side is absolutely killing it with Suisei recently but EN side having drama and all around decline.

>>41475566
cover does care but not the female branch kek

>>41475566
Hey, since EN management seems intent on copying NijiEN maybe they'll copy this! They'll 100% wait till the homos have 3d though, just to make sure no one enjoys it.

>>41475781
HoloEN probably pulls way more people if they do something similar, but they can't

>>41476261
what if it was EN management that prevented them from being in the holoJP discord server.

>>41476070
>>41476248
this is pure cope, why would they NOT want a big fancy concert of their own?

>>41476248
More like they want her to get the one event she wants the most instead of read script number 4580 and perform in everyone elses events, and oh btw we can't let you do your own or put out the merch you want.

>>41476010
I actually like mumei's music
t. Another music schizo

>>41476307
The homos are getting their 3D soon, why do you think they went to Japan?

>>41475458
Her and Towa's roommate wanted to collab on a song last year but nothing has happened with it and I'm still waiting lol

>>41476207
They were warned.

>>41475508
First five waves.

>>41475469
Fucks sake I made a mistake and watched the anime, I like /u/ and NTR but NTR shit outside hentai is absolute garbage, never go near it

Chumbuds are one of the most delusional fanbases I've ever seen

>>41476207
Better than /hlgg/ they said

>>41476320
Bae might.
Irys does.
Kiara does.
Mori did, and got one.

The rest don’t care.

>>41475876
>saying this when /rrat/, /uuu/, /HIryS/ and /who/ exist

NijiEN gold 2023
>NijiEN gold 2023
NijiEN gold 2023
>NijiEN gold 2023
NijiEN gold 2023
>NijiEN gold 2023

Send an email to cover JP management instead of bitching in this trash heap if you want EN management to be fired.

>>41476320
>>41476334
Because even if she's not streaming she's very busy behind the scene and she's really sick right now.

>>41476471
You're a retard who falls for catalog shitposts

>>41476040
t. axel

>>41476318
That’s the kicker, isn’t it? If you got all of HoloEN to do a stream making a WWE character and set up a big event for it, you’d probably see 40-50k from it. But it’ll never happen, because they’re all a bunch of autists who can’t get their shit together

>>41476538
>On reddit

En management is great! Da bois is awsome!

>nijien announcement another 3views event
yikes

I just finished watching towasama POV for cr cup.When will Towasama join VSPO and do she have any wife in there?I want do to illustrations for it

>>41476040
Probably the only thing NijiEN has over HoloEN. Cover is actually beyond trash and at this point I can't even tell at this point whether there's malicious intent or not. How does a company with leaps and bounds beyond any single indie/company overseas manage to drop the ball so hard, refuse to help or accommodate for the branches, do ANYTHING for them, have members actively complaining and arguing over management and go on record breaking droughts that've had fans and viewers fed up at this point? How does management go through such a large extent in making sure absolutely nothing happens for EN/ID and then turn around and get JP sponsorships from the biggest companies in their region and have them plastered just about everywhere in every single part of the country? How does a company genuinely put 105% effort into one region and not even do 5% for the other 2 combined

>>41476261
>be EN management
>HQ shits on you for the lack of numbers
>ask for more support
>lol lmao
>go to EN girls
>tell you to fuck off and get them support
>endless cycle of horsehit
>fans blame you for everything

>>41475566
things gonna change once Yagoo found his own Luxiem or whoever that made him envy

>>41476520
I mean, it's not exacly a hard challenge when your only adversary is trying to kill himself

To be honest bros I thought Fungus needed mobile scooter to move around.......

>>41476566
Why bother when you can just leech jp event

>>41476620
>How does a company...
chinks

>>41476671
Paid actor.

Would be a shame if a zoomer zombie congratulate them on twitter

These are the kind of events the girls wanna make. Please support their decisions.

>>41476717
Yeah, im sure her 10 viewers would be really pissed off.

How many hololisteners are shadowbanned?
Like in general ever since the first cull. What's the estimate?

>>41476717
Ollie is irrelevant.

>>41475937
Tea is just hugbox for trannies and sisters who watch Vesper.

>>41476717
Niji 1st live event watchalong soon! Unitychads eating good!

>>41476784
funny, that sounds like /#/

>>41476671
He's not going to be in 3D, his segment is going to be 2D,

>>41476838
Just change vesper for IRyS, Mumei or fauna

>>41476620
They're run by xenophobic boomer nips still in a NIPPON FIRST mindset compared to Anycolor's much younger and more globalized management, what did you expect? Cover are a bunch of retarded racists who will never treat EN and ID well.

>>41476747
You're fucking retarded. They didn't WANT to make that specifically; Cover approached them, and they said yes. They want Cover to approach them with bigger projects LIKE THEY FUCKING DO FOR JP ALL THE GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING TIME.

>>41476634
cool story omega
now resign and never ever take a job involving the management of other people unless you mean to ruin them

>>41476874
Damn…

>>41476874
This seems like a joke

>>41476320
They have nothing to gain from it, they are already complacent with what they already "achieved". With an army of yesmen and paypigs, they are already set for life. To hell with being an entertainer and being professional if you're always getting treated like a princess.

>>41476874
health reason, too fat to move.

>>41476784
>Sisters who watch Vesper

So…half of all Tempus viewership?
There’s a reason the Red Homo is a low 3view right now.

>>41476911
cope

>>41476876
IRyS has her own hugbox in /hirys/
Fauna's hugbox is /#/. You are correct.
Mumei's hugbox is literally the whole board almost

>>41476929
https://event.nijisanji.app/EN_COLORS/en/
it's real, from the website

>>41476747
Hire people to do everything for them? Well, it's what the fans paid for I guess lmao

>>41476903
@unicornkyoukai always with the facts

>>41476874
Ah, at least they don't go the IronMouse route

>>41476903
A modern-day prophet.

>>41476981
Fauna wrote it, which was the backbone of the entire project. So "everything" isn't even correct.

>>41476930
Fuck off JPnigger you don't know what the EN girls want, they would love to have a branch concert if not for management ignoring them at every opportunity

>>41476942
What does the red homo has to do with Vesper?

>>41476784
Every general in /vt/ is just hugboxes for every fanbase
Every non-general in /vt/ is shitpost only

>>41476911
JPs ask. JPs pay for it out of their own wallets. JPs have to direct, schedule, and manage these thing themselves.

is Pippa a leech?

>>41476954
>hirys
>hugbox
they shit on her all the time and call her a whore

>>41477070
>JPs ask. JPs pay for it out of their own wallets.
Not the stuff that shows up on the main channel, retard.

>>41477050
Number is the only neutral ground where people breed their rrats.

>>41476874
>unforeseen

Anyone got the link for the guy that is managing EN/ID branch I think he is korean that manage faker before.

>>41476903
Just like with jesus, they hated him for saying the truth.

>>41477070
>and that means Cover shouldn't do all these things for EN just because JP does it themselves
Retard

>>41476747
Ah yes, the last minute project where they basically told Fauna and the girls to do everything in a day and ended up making a mess of the finale.

>>41477073
Yes, but according to Holocure streams Fauna one of her favorite HoloEN

>>41477124
they didn't think he'd keep putting on weight.

Honestly cover should put all of their resources in holoEN. They have the most profitable and the most successful generation in holoEN and I don't understand why are they neglecting them despite their hard work.

>>41477073
Well, the one way to increase viewers is leeching

>>41477152
Last minute projects is how EN rolls.

>>41477195
Cover are run by racist chinks, look at what they did to Coco just because she was American.

>>41476903
This unicorn always speak the truth

>>41476874
he didn't do as well as they expected

When's holocure coming out? Not that it matters since none of the ENs will play it

>>41477195
>most profitable
Source?

Wait why is Aogiri highschool not on vrabi? They are pretty big too right?

Do people not thinking rationally anymore?

Nijisanji skipped 3D for exNijiID, exNijiKR, and some NijiJP just to push forward PAID 3D (prerecorded) events for NijiEN definitely to have its stock price increase.

YET you guys are shitting on Holo for not doing the same?

>>41477216
I'll never understand how every cover and orisong is still having finishing touches put on it moments before premiere. It's like they're trying to fail.

>>41476766
Pekora went down from 70K to 40K back in november 2020 (i dont remember the exact day) and then during CCVID she went down from 40K to under 10K but got back to 30K after youtube "fixed" it . Based off of Pekora's numbers alone I would assume around 40K accounts that are shadowbanned. Now some of those probably moved on/passed away etc. so my estimate is around 20-30K on average for holo JP. Now holo EN is a whole other ball game.

my cute wife

>>41477195
yes. they put all of it into StarsEN

>>41477036
Yeah because writing is so fucking hard when people like Stephen King can shit out a best seller in a week.

So what happened to brrats? What made so many leave bae?

Allah will strike cover corp down for commiting haram

>>41477288
Myth wouldn't be jumping ahead of anyone, it was their turn a long time ago.

>>41477288
well, the only talents that dont have 3D are ID2, CouncilRyS, ID3

>>41477288
>Nijisanji is prioritizing their high-flying EN branch and giving them what they deserve
>but it's bad if Hololive does it
Are you retarded? Why wouldn't any EN fan want Cover to actually appreciate and give back to holoEN after they brought so much popularity to hololive?

Bae just sang live and she was great again.

>>41474870
And that's anywhere comparable to getting their own concert right? I think it's time you people admit it NijiEN is already ahead of HoloEN

>>41477273
Obliterate merch record(Gura) + the most successful Sololive(Mori) + SC queen(Kiara, Mori, Gura,)

>>41477152
En management are retarded beyond imaginable to do that shit, better just delay and make it right than put that shit up.

>>41476976
Holy shit just fire Cover already, they do absolutely fucking nothing for the EN girls and they're better off being free to organize concerts on their own without retarded management getting in the way

>>41477288
I dont give a shit about HoloID
EN has been due

>>41476766
god knows
you would have to inflitrate youtube HQ and hope there is some sort of record
but it's in tens of thousands

>>41477376
None of them left. She just didn't have fans in the first place.

>>41477273
NTA but Myth is a fucking juggernaut Why do you think they did the Maid Cafe shit in Korea with Myth first? They are more globally marketable and recognizable.

>>41476392
sauce?nktatw

>>41477449

>>41477288
Hololive has no excuses left for not being caught up with 3d. The country's been open for awhile now. I don't give a shit if their studio's booked, if they actually cared they could have found a way.

>>41476620
The NijiEN managers aren't Japanese. That is the main difference. HoloEN needs some actual non-japanese to run the branch.

>>41477294
That didn't happen to Ina or Fauna...

>>41477288
The equivalent of this for Cover would actually be skipping the shitters like the Homos 3D entirely and don't give a fuck about them.

So yes... people here would absolutely praise it.

JP
>2017 - 2018 Kizuna AI
>2018 - 2020 Nijisanji
>2020 - present Hololive

EN
>2020 - 2022 Hololive English
>2022 - present Nijisanji English

>>41477376
That whore of a rat literally choose to homo collab over a sick IRyS. As a IRyStocrat the ship is dead, never watching her again

>en paywalled live

It's gonna be jp songs again isnt it?

Remember when people thought Myth was getting their 3D showcase in December? It's almost February btw.

>>41477611
reading the site it seems there will be variety segments too

>NijiEN gets a full 3D concert of their own, just hours of pure NijiEN 3D goodness
>HoloEN getting maybe 10 minutes total in their holofest appearances
Guess we know which company treats their foreign branches better now, lmao.

Do you think other holos hate Sora? She gets every sponsorship, several concerts, anything she wants paid for, and gets to be on literally everything hololive related but she's like the 40th most popular vtuber in the company.

>>41477611
They legally can’t sing in English unless it’s an original. Get that through your thick skull.

>>41477579
retard HoloEN staff are mostly non-nips. jenma is a SEA chink for example

>>41477556
I'll just drop this so you can see the score right away and stay out of it immediately https://myanimelist.net/anime/34383/Netsuzou_TRap

>>41476874
>due to unforseen health reasons
>unforseen
Imagine being told by your company that you are too fat for the 3D motion tracking. Holy shit, lmao.

>>41475508
No, it's not unusual for people to use their 3D in events before they've had their debut. Some will get theirs before the Sony event, but not everyone.

>>41477417
We are talking about Holo, whose image is built upon having strong unity across the branches.

It makes sense for Niji to skip over non-performing branches, but not Holo

>>41477648
>Guess we know which company treats their foreign branches better now, lmao.
Not Anykara when their ID/KR branches exist

Reminder that they postponed Aqua’s Korones and Shuba’s BDay lives for the homos as well. Their obsession to try and make Stars work is going to be their downfall

>>41477418
I wish she stop with her screehing and peaking, she remind me of ollie.

>>41477630
Remember people thought EN3 was going to debut last year even though I keep telling people that it is not a given?

>>41476622
She has flirted with almost the entire roster of vspo before at one point or another. The ones she's closest to are Tsuna (if you want to draw fucking/ship art go for her) and Nose (if you want to draw friendly girls hanging out go for her) but she also hangs out irl with Hinano quite a bit. Vspo already honorably adopted her into vspo back during a R6S tournament so she's basically already joined them.

>>41477688
Those are low tier managers, they still have to answer to nip upper managerment you retard, their hands are tied because the chinks keep stonewalling them

>>41477654
No, they barely know her.

I feel the tides are turning in the EN market bros... Not even Holofes can save them since HoloEN is just the JP branch accessories at this point.

>>41477630
Reminder that Cover can clear out space for Uproar, but they can't do the same for Myth

I hope this wakes up ENmanagement... to release Tempus3 LET'S GOOOOOOOOO

>>41477722
they got delayed for fucking six months while they keep spamming 3d streams for the homos
i fucking hate cover

>>41476874
>will only participate in the 2D variety segment
>2D variety segment
>Niji variety shit
Ok, I'm not mad anymore. This show is going to be trash.

Seeing the weird stagnation for HoloEN, i went back to read an interview with the "producer" to see what motives/ideas changed for the group
https://grapee.jp/en/169910

>>41477560
No matter how many you posted it anon, nijifag never gonna admit it.

>>41477654
By that logic everyone should hate Suisei.

>>41477700
>5.34 on MAL
Holy fuck, how bad is this shit?

>>41477715
i mean, they don't exist anymore

>>41477715
Still giving NijiEN an entire paid concert before holoEN, cope.

>>41477765
EN is not exactly useful accessory most of them are debuff in collab.

I never realized bae's music doesn't do that well. I always thought her stuff was able to break a million easily

>>41477752
its the same for niji you retard. upper management = nips

>pekora yokai watch
does she unironically like that game or is that sponsorship shit

>>41477362
At least Stephen King bestsellers are entertaining, which is more than I can say about the dullest franchise in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though

"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

>>41475884
Mumei records her shit at home for some reason. I wish she'd go to a studio for her music.
Although I do like Dilemma a lot.

>>41477777
Seeing livers beat each other up will be KINO

>>41477729
>Remember people thought EN3 was going to debut last year even though I keep telling people that it is not a given?
I still can't believe how retarded EN management are

>>41476874
polka can appear in 3d no problem
just how fat is fulgur?

>>41477773
That's the spirit you filthy gaijin. Now KNEEL before me!

HoloEN have a really strong mindchair, pretty sure secondary fans now outweigh actual chumbuds. Why would Gura choose streaming when she can just sell her design in various merchandise and media and collect money without a single stream from her, whereas streaming to chumbuds, she will need to put up with chumbies, a group of pathetic pedo incel losers who are annoying and cringe. You can imagine how stressful it is to entertain such a group, it's only natural, she is taking leave as much as she can

>>41477872
Is this a fucking bot

>>41477895
It really won't and it has never been "kino" in the past. Japanese directed variety shit is fucking trash and Japanese variety TV is the worst thing in the world.

>>41477777
That’s their specialty, doesn’t mean that Hololive shouldn’t have already done something with Myth. Only reason Calli even got shit was because she lives in Japan. That doesn’t even matter anymore tho since IRyS could get shit either

>>41477905
New gens come straight from the top

>>41476040
shut up axel