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>>41370722No, Mocapi doesn't have face or hand tracking
>>41370728Not on her channel doesn't count for any records
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KNEEL
mysta sisters status?
>>41370643concerts but also karaoke, ringfit/wii sports - offcollab. this open up a wide range of fidelity in the 3d tracking and content ideas.
Holobros, Niji is going to win the month at this rate...
So ... what's the point of HoloEN now? JP now already has power to reach out to mainstream with or without them
>>41370763>>41370792Eiko!
>>41370791What was the record for TFT then?
God bless the Sana line.
>>41370803To first take for the exposure.
Just drove back home, in time for the dinner tomorrow but missed the debut today. How are the new VTA members debut? 4 of the girls yesterday are not bad. Is the one with the highest sub really miles better than the other 2?
>>41370847To keep reddit and 4chan entertained
What did we learn last thread, anon?
>>41370866
>>41370803I CAN'T, MY KNEECAPS ARE ALREADY COMING OFF
Kaela is cuter than usual today.
863k
1M soon
>>41370866holy kek
>>41370866Mumei and kronii literally got twice mysta's numbers for their respective birthdaysG R I M
>>41370916
>>41370803naive of you to think I ever lifted them for suzy
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>69,519: Kaburaki Roco (Nijisanji)>49,441: Shishido Akari (Nijisanji)>44,744: Kuramochi Meruto (Nijisanji)>41,190: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>36,327: Pekora (Hololive)>26,444: Korone (Hololive)>21,178: Nene (Hololive)>19,534: Ange (Nijisanji)>15,768: Koyori (Hololive)>14,276: Iroha (Hololive)>13,608: Mumei (Hololive)>13,036: Salome (Nijisanji)>11,984: Mysta (Nijisanji)>11,566: Hal (Neo Porte)>11,427: Nerumero (Indie)>10,393: Towa (Hololive)>10,340: Lauren (Nijisanji)>10,302: Iroha (Hololive)
>>41370722Yeah i thought of Kiara too when I saw it. She liked the idea of doing home concerts but hated wearing the home 3D setup. I'm sure she'll jump on this
>>41370866Based Sana mogging Nijiniggers from outer space.
>>41370803Pubes.
>>41370781EN girls all have rokoko gloves and I guess they would need one of those phone headbands for facial tracking from cover app
>>41370883Yeah but this board has the brain of a gold fishCan literally watch graph and that by itself would have been enough for the monkis /here/
>>41370916TOO STRONG!
>>41370916is that channel allowed to trend or is it permadebuffed like pegor's?
>>41370936>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 20238) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 20239) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream20) Roco (Nijisanji) - 69,519 - Debut stream>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive4x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER9x: Pekora2x: Towa1x: Hololive, Koyori, Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Roco, Subaru, Watame
>>41370936Nijisanji is just too strong right now.
>>41370860CCV-wise, 1st or 2ndSixTones had 116K at the start of premiere, PLAYBOARD did not record the end.VOD-wise, nobody knows. With those CCV, their goals are chasing the fastest 10M.
>>41370975It's a normie channel, it's allowed to trend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLdTjcYzNAA
>>41370791Its her content technically so it counts unliks collabs from other channel or official acc.
>>41370267https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Nv5Td2hUghell i am pretty sure the one Miko thumbs up picture used to shit on shitpost threads was from a home 3D stream
>>41370916>200k likes 10k commentsthis shit is baloney
>>41370204What? Home3D just means they're using their 3D model with the normal iPhone app.Miko for example technically always uses it since she has no Live2D model in the first place.
>>41370975It's popped up on my YT homepage every time they've uploaded a video for the last few years
What is the verdict of Suisei's First Take? I think singing wise she pretty much nailed it other than the first few seconds, but it is so weird to see a First Take where the participants are totally silent outside of the songs itself. Suisei and Inoue not even looking at each other.Also the mocapi sucks, Cover should stop shilling it, at least on the JP side.
>risotto and kyo join>numbers go downhmmmmmmmmm
>>41370847>now
>Holowhore stealing our Sony daddySisters...what should we do?
>>41371036>She tried out different speeches, miko asked if she would hum/warmup her vocals, but after trying different things, decided silent start was best
>>41370975>Sony-backedAnon, what do you think?
>>41370936How was the debut? Why is the top one having 69k but the second and third only got 40k+ ccv?
>>41371052Iluna really did flop anon
>>41371053
>>41371052JWUDo these two even made it into the sisters hatelist? Why the number going down, it
>>41370975Nigger, it was featured by YouTube themselves on financial reports, alongside Gura.
>>41371091just nijisanji things. don't question it.
>>41370989Chasing 10M is pretty hard unless she manages to go real viral with mainstream then. The song is her most popular original and it got 20mil.
>>41370847To mog nijien shitters
>>41371036>mocapi sucksit doesn't suck, it's as bad as their hand tracking but they can use it on the whole bodyit's perfect for home use, remember that most of them are tech literates that barely know how to start a stream
>>41371107
>>41371091Roco was the standout talent in VTA, people have been saying this since their debut lineup was announcedHer actual debut was sort of weird and underwhelming but I guess she figured people already knew what her deal was
>>41370911>>41370916>>41370933>>41371004>>41371036>>41371053>>41371081>>41371107>>41371159`You guys set your expectations too high, I remembered kuzuha getting 700-900k on the first 4 hours, then after 1am at jp, it fell off so fucking slow that it took 11 hours to reach 1M and it didn't even beat gura. Suisei's video is gonna slow down at the last leg of 900k-1M.
>>41371091Roco was from the very first VTA wave and people have been saying she was the best one to ever get through the program, so that explains the hype for her.
>>41371140Gura brand too strong
>>41371159
>>41371194>2021
>>41371091roco was massively popular in vta and was the most hyped since the debuts got announced
>>41371140Subtle tease for Gura appearing on it soon.
>>41371140Goombus…
>>41371140Gura carrying Hololive as always, you guys should be more grateful with her.
VTA debut CCV
>>41371219
>>41371181King isn't a singer and was just getting k-pop farmed by his fanbase, First Take is an actual normie music channel
>>41371140Gura coming soon. 1M views within an hour.
>>41371181>kuzuha getting 700-900k on the first 4 hours,Proof? And pretty sure King didn't have 150k people watching his premier. That premier views alone take up a huge chunk of first 24hr vod.
>>41370847Does this really count as mainstream outside of people who are already into JP stuff though? Scrolling through their videos it's almost exclusively JP artists, with a few outliers like Avril Lavigne. Hololive is already mainstream in that scene. The average Westerner still isn't going to have a clue how Suisei is.
>>41371181Kuzuha got 70K Even with the same pattern, Suisei can reach 1M in 5-6 hrs
my cute wife
>>41371140same-chan cute
>>41371275
always makes me laugh how hoshiyomis spam suisei lewds constantly when she doesn't win gold but when she actually does absolute crickets
people are just using this as an excuse to post Suisei lewds
So,>Sony's Mocopi>Sony's The First Take>Sony's PS5 Lunar New Year CelebrationIs Sony going all out for Hololive?
What's with these premiere relayAlso JESAS Nips I will never buy into your "put all information available on sight" bullshit, stop making overcrowded thumbnail!
>>41371309victorius wife did you catch some sleep before the karaoke anon?
>>41371293One step at a time friendo.
>>41371321Feel free to post all those Roco lewds you have saved anon
>>41371319
>>41370866Did he not do a totsu or something? Fucking Millie and Maria only got a few k less in December. Hell, Magni almost matches this.
>>41371309NIJISISTERS DON'T LOOK!
898k
>>41370455900k 900k 900k10k comments100k likes
>>41371293hololive really isn't mainstream among nip normies
>>41371340At the very least they arent lazy whore unlike your enwhores
>>41371337>ps5 lunar new tear?What does this have to do with hololive
>>41371337It's just business anon Not everyone give a shit about the shit flinging on some Vietnamese rice noodle cooking forums
>>41371337i mean look at those numbers, do you blame em? suisei grinded more engagements on multiple platform in an evening than versen since inception.
>>41371378
Suisex for 1st Vtuber for TFT and for way better numbers than the Niji debuts.
>>41370791Let's face it. Suisei fans have nothing to brag about for years. Then all of a sudden all these hoshityomis start appearing.
>>41371430kaela
>>41371430They're doing some promotion with HoloID and gave Kaela a PS5
How are the new Niji debut subs doing now?Is Pink Fauna still under 10k?
>>41371171>>41371184>>41371230How is she the best? I missed the debut so I go to the VODs, glanced through 3 of the new VTAs from today, none of their voices stand out, their contents are not that different too.
>>41371181The thing is, Suisei does have mindshare among nonSea/jp, while kuzuha has almost no pull outside of the mentioned zones.
leech bros we keep winning!
Nijisanji remains more popular in Japan anyways
Hoshimachi suiseis asention has begun the comet will shine brighter then the sun
>>41371142I mean normie J-pop singers usually have lower start compared to top vtubers.So they can't compete with Suisei in the first 1M. Eve's latest song got 1M slower than REFLECT, but it reached 10M in less than 3 weeks.
>>41371444
>>41371293>pentatonix>harry styles
>>41371350i slept for like 2 hours right after my post and had to wake up for classes
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESUICHAN, I KNEEL
>>41371472Ughhh, these thumbnails.
>>41371475have you been living in the rock for the past 3 years?
>>41371475
>>41371430https://twitter.com/kaelakovalskia/status/1616371138288058368
>>41371337They see Hololive as a valuable marketing tool
>>41371337Sony realized they fucked up investing in Anycolor and are finally doing what they should have done from the start.
>>41371487
>>41371472Moona doxx...
>>41371082Which is why she got the volume up too high at the start. Usually one of the thing people are looking for are the interactions between the talents on the set, she actually just sang and left. I was hoping for more.
>>41371272So were two VTA waves debut away from 100k
>>41371492>Outside of a few outliersLearn to read.
>>41371321>>41371322so which one is it?
>>41371470>No pull>Literally has highest ccv for every tournament he has been in that's filled with normie tourists
>>41371538verse...
>>41371540
>>41371475I wonder how long you nijiniggers can keep this cope up just admit defeat already there is no shame in losing to hololive
Stellar Stellar has been trending for 7 hours nonstop in Japan
>>41371472I don't see Kanata there
>>41371554>wifeWench!
>>41371337Hololive x VERSEn collabs soon
>>41371569
Nijiniggers letting holoniggers post their whores when they win. This is why we look down on you.
>>41371547She said on her Twitter space that the staff suggested normies might find a vtuber weird and just singing would come across better
>>41371350>hoomans>sleepingroruanon hoomans are just college students that are fucked up just like their oshi
>>41371591
>>41371560both at the same time.
>>41371610Worldwide as well
>>41371554Which Tempus are you?
I'm not saying they are better songs. But I wonder if Ghost or Template wouldn't have been a better choice for broad appeal
>>41371547She should had done the kawaii thing.
>>41371633What the fuck is the staff thinking? Vtubers are popular even among normies in Japan.
>>41371636
>>41371652just assume im regis like the other shitposter does itll probably help you sleep better
900K DORYAAAAAAAAAAA
>>41371337Sony using Hololive to market their new tech since a lot of indies and small corpos tend to follow whatever trends they do.
>>41371569READ WHAT I WROTE YOU FUCKWIT. I said OUTSIDE of JP/SEA, he doesn't get much pull. He gets plenty of pull within Japan/Sea.
>>41371610from a normie standpoint that never heard suisei stellar stellar really hits you in the face, it's a diva song.
>>41371660dont try to mix in with us Nijifag
AIEEEEEE SISTERS DONT LOOK
>>41371592Which is why the up coming HoloFes will be the test IF they can beat Koshien numbers, then there will be no cope leftAs it stands, Niji still have something to fall back on, which is their events
>>41371672
>>41371417 Gura exist anon.
holy shit comet mogged gura
>>41371620I don't mind Suisei x Alba Sera>>41371660Ghost and NCP were in consideration actually
>>41371482Yeah different in behavior of viewers. Normies don't camp at premier of an artist's song. They just go and listen to it, play it on repeat in public. First 1mil are for streamers who make song, 10 mil are for good one and 100 mil prove the song to be a real main stream one.
>>41371705Not really. But it's a weeb song for sure.
>>41371671>in Japan.Anon, it's still an INTERNATIONAL channel ...
>>41371510 nice i managed to ear it while doing prep at work, late breakfast today, now go rest for geoguessr
>>41371716
>>41371671They're plastered all over the places you'd normally see anime characters these days but they're still going to be a bit of a foreign concept to the average person who just subscribed to that channel because LiSA was on it 3 years ago
>>41371716What's with the cow?
>>41371757
>>41371528>>41371337>>41371461I'm so glad Kaela is becoming ID representative instead of Kobo. This was the second time she became the MC of ID. First one being the time she received a prize from YoutubeID as the most SC'ed vtuber from Indonesia.
>>41371757LET ME CUM ON THAT WASH BOARD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>King and the new girls dominating>holokeks resort to numberfag a non vtuber channelpathetic
>>41371748Yes, for J-pop. Do you think people listening to J-pop have no idea what a vtuber is?
>>41371417It isn't 2019 anymore, anon. Niji may still have a bit better "mindshare" than Holo in Japan, but Holos aren't literally whos anymore.
>>41371800
suityan first take will hit 1M in few minute
>>41371836Prove it
suishit is still irrelevant on her own channel, where it matters
Subs update
>>41371417Seems pretty mainstream mainstream to me. Billboard-type ads, collabs with non-otaku stores, etc. Compare to the West where their mainstream exposure is basically Gura appearing for a second in the background of an anime-themed Taco Bell commercial.
ahh 950k let's go
>>41371764People forget that JP isn't a monolith. Something like Dragonball in America for example is very popular, especially among kids, across multiple demographics. But your average boomer would still be confused as hell if Goku were shilling Tide or Nerf guns or something. Hell a signifcant fraction of adults don't know who Mr Beast is even though pretty much every kid considers him a celebrity.
>>41371818grim, I don't really care about the numbers on their channel, more so about the reach it has.
>>41371801Kobo throw her chances away by interacting with males. It's the same for suisei. Delusional fans breed delusional whores. Just look at mikeneko now.
>>41371846
>>413709161M in the next 10-20 minutes
>>41371764>They're plastered all over the places you'd normally see anime characters these daysIs this why /a/ hates us? Also it to say that it is a foreign concept to people who listen to Lisa is pretty weird because people listening to Lisa usually watch anime.
>>41371874Those are pretty good for 2020.
>>41371416950k 950k 950k
>>41371472I am waiting for the woman that analysed Still Still Stellar for 3 hours while fangirling over Suisei.
>>41371818post your lewds then fuckface, if not stop larping.
>>41371889
>>41371818It would be rather concerning if debuts and a super buff tournament lose to Minecraft your king is already scraping close to pekora he might not be able to keep up after some days
>>41371874>lower than tempus 2GRIM
How many subs suisei gained?
>>41371857Suisei appearing on The First Take before any Niji and BTFO of them on Twitter should be enough proof.
>>41371468Hell if I know, just relaying what I have heard from everyone that follows Niji, and it seems to hold water with her numbers being significantly higher.
>>41371829The fuck kind of J-pop does Avril Lavigne sing?
>>41371752see you during geoguessr anon. I'll be moomin'
Man nip entertainers are weird, what's with this anime girl. oh... oh no burgers what have you done.
>>41371901I mean if you've never watched a vtuber stream you might see it like >>41371881 says, a sort of "why is Goku talking about what he ate for lunch yesterday" weirdnessVtubers being a blend of a character and a real person is an unusual concept
>>41371939
>>41371932https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-je8r_e49y0
cripplechads, predictions?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Bvpss_Xx9Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJNdr1vhJ30https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyavrmWlwcIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLo4sLSkghw
Isn't it kinda bleak for Anycolor and Nijisanji?>Main source of revenue is setting up a sweatshop of "talents" but they don't have dreams of their own, they just work for the money>Big tournaments are just them using works from popular titles and thinks they own them>Spamming low tiered sponsored streams every day>Resorts in questionable number magicNow that their share price is close to starting again, how would they even regain confidence from investors again?
>>41371944She got subsequently cummed on by me
>>41371944Yesterday she need 4k to 1.7M and she hit that several hours ago.
>>41371417Time to move on nijinog
>>41371858That's just an album crossfade.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdxROihdIEY
>>41371990
>>41371985>Vtubers being a blend of a character and a real person is an unusual conceptReally...? I usually just think of them as a character with a voice actor that controls the writing.
>>41371983lol what??? did puff daddy pull a r.kelly?
>>41372025Anon, you're replying to a shitposter ..
>>41371944Anon Vsinger don't get a lot subs unless you are making a One Piece Musical like Ado
>>41371695Since the collab has been announced I saw some indie 3view talking about it so it might be it
>>41371995>chadslol25k8-10k10k0.8k+200 funnel from the tempoop that streams before him
>>41372033
Looks like Fauna's status as soggymama's favorite is secure
>>41371472I fucking hate reacshits!
>>41371944Hololive should separate gaming and music content, ain't no way tourist would subscribe if the first thing they see in her channel is fucking mario kart
>>41372039Be careful anon, you're gonna start the "Vtubers are streamers with anime avatars" timeloop again
>nijisanji wins>hoshiyomi spamill accept it this time since i want to fuck suisei
>>41371181kuzuha is 150k in 4 hours. retarded
>>41371660>1 TAKE performance of “Stellar Stellar,” the lead track from her first album “Still Still Stellar,” which was created with the hope of encouraging those who listen to it.its to promote her album
>>41371620Please save my cute sheep that likes to swear in Englisih.
>>41371930975k 975k 975k
>>41372082Ema is hotter anyway
>>41372076
>>41372046It's funny how many people think vtubers are weirdos and then this shit pops up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBEkyijs4TkIf it was Miko instead of Korone, Pekor would've done it.
>>41371726>Ghost and NCP were in consideration actuallyWhat about Tenkyuu?
>>41371985So you are saying this is the BIG BREAK that EN scene needed?
>>41371620Alba..
I was just randomly looking at some numbers for Gen1 and maybe this is me being a bit of a newfag but can someone give me a QRD on how Haachama, Matsuri, Mel and Aki can pull relatively the same amount of CCV per stream but then you got Haachama and Matsuri with nearly 2x the amount of subscribers then Mel and Aki?Is it tourists who have since left the fandom? Is it bots? Were Matsuri and Haachama far more popular back in the day? Now that CCV is roughly the same, could subscriber gap gradually close or are those types of vast differences in subscribers permanently baked in at this point? NGL, kinda feel bad for any of the girls from Gen4 or prior still below 1 million. Now that we know there are bonus requests that Cover fulfills tied to achieving each million it feels like a bit of a slight against the ones left behind.
>>41372096Yep thats true. Last time she got a big increase was on Apex Arc with Aqua and Towa.
>>41372133Not even in consideration lmao
>>41372039It's still fucking weird for your average person anon. I remember brought up a lot of cope so i could justify with myself watching Korone.
>>41372122
>>41371995There's no way Finana's 3d doesn't hit 70k. Don't really care about the others.
>>41371660Usually artists do two videos/songs for TFT, right? I imagine the second one will be Template to promote her new album.
JWUHow was Suisei's first take?
>>41372096suisei homepage is only music
Nice numbers haha get itWas the karaoke an endurance for this number? Haven't watched it
>>41372103>i want to fuck suiseiI guess there's at least one thing that we'd agree on fagoon
>>41372131>If it was Mikoshe will straights ignore her
>>41371686AIEEEEEEEEE
>>41372167Memes
>>41372184Most likely Michizure with Ayase
>>41372178
>>41372124Niggers are weirderThat's why white people like watching them
>>41372185yes
>>41372096What's wrong with Mario Kart, it's kino game
>>41372140You really think the sort of people that watch First Take are suddenly going to watch a bunch of anime girls playing games?
>【新年快乐 】ALOUPEEP もちNIJICN
>>413721111 MILLION 1 MILLION 1 MILLIONbaby, so proud of herHolochads, are you proud of her too???
SUSAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNN
>>413718991M get at 4h20 minutes
>>41372197No, she sang for like 90 minutes and then read Super chats.
>>41372224
>>41372167Haachama and Matsuri waste their momentum and chance to get bigboth of them decide to doin menhera phase and play same game over the time
come on
>>41372259Noice
>>41371901>because people listening to Lisa usually watch animeYou realize like 90% of the country has listened to Lisa right? anon just because people watched Demon slayer 3 years ago does not mean they are "anime fans"
>>41372225BARK BARK BARK
>>41372270
>>41371337Unironically? It’s a possibility. JP media corpos often have special relationships with each other in specific areas (for example, A-1 Pictures, which is owned by Sony, handling all of Idolmaster’s anime adaptations despite Bandai owning Sunrise already). That Sony and Cover have some sort of relationship for music-related projects in Japan would not surprise me.>spoilerThis is where I start going into rrat mode. It might explain how/why EN is just a side branch.
>>41372073Anon, Kawaii 3D is not getting 8-10k. They're just not that popular. 3k is probably the highest I could see.
>>41372096https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5CwaMl1eIgY8h02uZw7u8AOpen this link and you'll see that everything is songs.
>>41371997As long as it still makes profits then, all is good for riku. He never really cares about anykara anyway and has always been ready to jump into the next bussiness
>>41372259I KNEEL...
>>41372304
Suisei will now collab more with males to improve on her 'singing'.
>>41372167matsuri was one of the big guns back in the day before apex killed her career, while chammers picked up a ton of eop dead subs
>>41372325Prepare your kneeling cushion, you'll be spending a lot of time on it soon.
>>41372343
>>41372362yeah me
>>41372185Kinda mid compare to her casual utawakur performance desu
>>41372362>Suisei will now collab more with males I like these anons. They are cute.
>>41372390false
>>41371337When's Konami kneeling and giving perms for their old games?
>>41370803SUISEI, I KNEEL!
>>41371901Possibly. Anime, manga, vtubers, and all that media aren’t as separate in Japan as they are in the west. But honestly, it’s probably more because this is an EOP board more than anything else.
>>41372383
one million under 5 hours is amazing, but for a mainstream channel like this the race to 10 million is probably more important in terms of measuring her outreach
Finally
>>41372197774.inc..
>OFFICIALLY 1M IN 4 HOURS 30 MINUTES
>>41372362KEK.
Holyshit for some reason my twitter's home is bombarded with nijis anywhere i can see when i only follow holos kek. Did niji's twitter employees actually mindbroken?
>>41372328>open channel>wii wii woo>close channel
>>41372308ENs aren't getting anywhere in mainstream music unless Cover can find a way to allow them to do covers of EN songs, and we all know that's never going to happen.
>>41372362Mori Suisei and Adam Sandler collab when
>>41372290It means they are receptive to anime in general so vtubers are not really a freak in nature that you and Suisei's staff trying to make out to be.
>>41372433
>>41372325nene's hit 1k for buff content before, 10k is way too optimistic imo but i do think she'll get on the cripple tally
>>41372259>>41372443I.FUCKING.KNEEL!
>>41372467They could try to make EN song that reach mainstream.
>>41372421I think the only way Konami would give perms is if Cover paid them
>>41372483
>>41371140>alongside Gura.In 2021
>>41372519only EN that wants to make music is Mori and i doubt her music will hit a mainstream level
>>41372467Thats because EN Music from Universal. Disney and Sony don't let anyone make covers from them unless you pay them a lot of money.
>>41372185unironically fantastic.
How are we feeling today holochads?
Reminder that Gura still has the fastest 1m ever in hololive
>>41372096Yeah you'll never see a gaming content in Yoasobi channel, probably the reason why Suisei subs tanked
>>41372519They’d need to hire better songwriters then. Or let irys do it herself instead of making her rely on those incompetents.Not that I think it *is* going to happen, but I unironically have more faith in IdolEN’s upcoming vsinger than in anything “HoloPro EN” touches in pulling it off.
>>41372553Eminem can hit mainstream so can Mori.
>>41372567Ecstatic
She did it bros SHE BROKE THE FUCKING BOX HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>41372362still boggles my mind shitposters try to cuckpost with suisei of all people.
>>41372519That would require them to hire non-ESLs as songwriters, or get a new talent who is a songwriter that isn't obsessed with crappy J rap.
>>41372567kinda horny for a wall, she's hot right now
>>41372553No one currently in EN has the capacity to do that, not even Gura. If that almost impossible feat were to happen, it'd have to come from a future EN generation.
>>41372167Haachama and Matsuri got ENORMOUS name recognition in 2020 and early 2021, specially with kaigai.HoloEN sapped half of that and their own mistakes dropped the other half, leaving them with a barebones audience of JP nikiThere is no relation between their subs explosion in 2020 and their CCV in 2023
>>41372597Anon, don't look at Marine and her treasure box.
What are the other 1M records?
>>41372641Kiara could do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efViUID_FgMits here boys!
>>41372590OK, I bite. Eminem is Top-3 in world what he does... ever. Mori is below mediocre meme rapper.
>>41372659both have done it
>>41372692I give it a 30k
>>41372467>to allow them to do covers of EN songsEN can do covers of EN songs all they want, Cover won't stop them.All the girls have to do, like for the covers with JP songs, is to foot the bill for the rights to do so.
>>41372684>The one who's obsessed with JP IdolshitAnon, I ...
>>41370866> 11K in SEA time ? He can reach 40k in US prime time>AAHHHHH MYSTA WINNNNNN
>>41372692Sub 20k possible
>>41372684this is the influence from Korone
>new homo just invaded Kaela's chatfucking niji EN
>>41372694Do you think Eminem born as the top 3 rapper in the world? He worked his way up, so can Mori.
Gonna be interesting to track how many subs Suisei will gain from this.Marine gained a lot of subs after treasure box so will be interesting to see the outcome of this first take.
>>41372586>Irys>Writing songsThe best she could do is probably translate JP lyrics and then get Mori to help her arrange them in some way that works, and then you'd probably just wind up with a typical Mori song.
>>41372692Good thing she said it's a 2, 3 streams game max meaning she might finish it this weekend
>>41372684The world isn't ready for it
>>41372753hakka?
>>4137273030k will be the first only. After that 20k or below.
Almost 1.5mil this shit is taking off!
>>41372753What a fucking leech
>>41372794Shouldn't Kiara try to apply under Austria instead?
>>41372784I wouldn't equate both. Treasure Box went viral on TikTok, that's a subs magnet
>>41372096I mean YouTube splitting Videos and Stream VODs pretty much accomplished that already.
Holostatistic guy puts TFT ver. into the list.Will the YT song ranking guy does it?
Looks like Sora is on the cover of Vtuber Style this time around. I think among holos the only ones who have been on the cover up until now are Aqua, RBC, gen 5, gen 6, Suisei, and Okayu.
>>41372789She literally haven't return to her normal weekend JRPG for a while now. She only play DQT for 2 streams then dropped itEven she know her JRPG number is not that good
>>41372753Seen and ignored. Poor boy.
>>41372753>>41372798She's talking about speaking Spanish, so it's not unprompted Christ, you guys are more sensitive than the sisters
>>41372818Bruh have you see any popular The First Take video before?
Google laying off 12k peoplehttps://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/20/google-to-lay-off-12000-people-memo-from-ceo-sundar-pichai-says.htmlAmazon laying off 18k peoplehttps://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/18/amazon-job-cuts-read-the-memos.htmlI wonder if that'll impact Youtube and Twitch
>>41372590If Mori was going to be mainstream we would see upwards momentum, not what we actually have seen with what she’s released so far. She’s an autist (so probably also has ADHD), and she’s in the side branch. The side branch has nothing but streams to keep it afloat since they don’t have Hololive Alternative, Graffiti, whatever structure lets JP make songs more easily, the manga adaptations, the advertisements in Akihabara (or an Akihabara at all), etc.Basically, Mori has to stream to stay relevant at a level the JP girls don’t need to (look at the differing reactions to an EN girl pulling an Ayame vs Ayame pulling an Ayame).Which is to say, I hate Mori’s recent music, but it’s not (all) her fault. Being in EN, she probably has to stream way more than Suisei does just for people to remember her and can’t work on her music as efficiently.Not that any of what I just said explains Mori’s general autistic insistence on keeping all the most filtering aspects of her music. That part’s all on her.
>>41372641Well Suisei didn't reach mainstream alone though. It takes entire Hololive to promote her story and music, cover her mindchair when she's absent. EN rn has no box, separated, i doubt the future generation will ever have someone who go mainstream unless they already can go mainstream by themselves already.
>>41372586why would you think irys has any songwriting talent?
>>41372858He’s been trying hard to get her attention. She’s surprisingly the only ID who doesn’t collab with them despite interacting with em on twitter.
>>41372860
>>41371151Is no one gonna mention how much Kobo reclined?She is reclining more than Luxiem
>>41372458It's her best song since Stellar Stellar.
Haachama have obsidian-ized Pekora's lava tower
/mu/ chad here I tried listening to this Suisei girl on First Take... Holy shit she's so mediocre...
>>41372860>She tries to speak my language>MUST LEECH!Fucking retards, you and him.
>>41372692to fix your numberrot
>>41372694I mean he was kind of a meme at first too. Most of his fans were laughingstock edgy kids back when he was coming up.
>>41372860>She's talking about speaking Spanish, so it's not unpromptedThat's absolutely unprompted and poor form. Had it been (let's say) Shoto or Luca people would have the same reaction even if they were native spanish speakers
>>41372753He's kinda obnoxious ain't he?
>>41372167The biggest thing that determined subs for the older gens for a long time was their popularity with EOPs. Matsuri got a ton of clips prior to HoloEN and was really popular, Haachama too and she could actually have back and forth with EOP.Mel and Aki never got popular with EOPs so they could never ride the wave to 1 mil. Mel's harassment issues were happening around the time where EOP's were first starting to flood into the fandom.So she never got the tons of clips someone like Matsuri got. Aki too was just not popular with EOP.Nowadays EOP aren't as important for subs but growth in general has slowed down a lot as well.
>>41372860i was just guessing if it was Hakka I actually don't care what these girls do at this point, I just know he was one of the ones who snoops around chats.
>>41372911Kys
>>41372860sounds like he was almost as desperate as yourself, homobeggar
>>41372641Breaking into the mainstream is a way harder feat for EN no matter what talents you have. You have to fight a lot of headwinds that the JPs don't. A large segment of the population won't even give you a chance as a anime girl singer. You'd probably have better luck as a faceless voice.
>>41372944Pathetic
>>41372911Anon unironically what the fuck kind of falseflag is this?
>>41372742https://twitter.com/kiyachino2691/status/1614513881942224898?s=21&t=04hrdH0NbE2TkGCDwP-1vg>THAILAND PRIMETIME
>>41372944>as birds we stick togheterhope someone shanks this faggot
>>41372879Calm down deadbeat
>>41372944>As birds we stick togetherHe's really trying to make himself "Holotori", what a leech!
>>41372909peko vs haachama arc
>>41372901SEApes are so obsessed with drama and shitposting that they forget about their own streamers
>>41371740I would argue that mainstream hits are actually already around the 50m line, only 1 or 2 songs in a year get to 100m, at least in japan
>>41372935Was he a meme? Maybe, before "meme" was a thing. Was he mediocre? Never.
>>41372879Rap makes Mori special in Vtuber area, but it's also the big filter in mainstream.And Mori is partial J-RAP, which is even a smaller group.
>>41372794They wouldn't get it.
>>41372881Maybe I’m just feeling charitable. Maybe because when I go into rrat mode I try to give the vtuber the benefit of the doubt. I honestly don’t know, I just assume she’d be more competent than the idiots Cover hired to do all this.I could totally be wrong. Anyway, that was just a throwaway remark in a post I meant to mostly shit on her songwriters.
>>41372692hell yeah the dead franchise that called itseft the pokemon killer
>>41372860Homos need to stay away from kaela, she has a good thing going on and they dont need to ruin it.
Anontachi, which is the more important event to be pinned?> Homo event from 5 days ago> Sui-chan achieving one of the biggest milestones for VTuber culture
>>41372784if you want to quantitate its effect, look for how many Online tickets will be bought for her SoloLive
>>41372944santa sanguijuela…
>>41372944
>>41372879That is a lot of words to say "Mori probably can't be the next Eminem because Cover doesn't debut EN3 and EN4 and build them a 3D studio in NA".
>>41372950Nowadays you can only gain sub through something of your going viral. Like Marine Treasure Box or FBK shiny hunt, Kobo song going viral also have the same effectNgl but not being able to sing in Hololive already make you a DOA chuuba unless you can make up for it with something else
>>41372909https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1616476554514821122Bless you, you fucking retard chama, that's why I adore you
>>41372881It's not that.She speaks English and has to sing the lines, so she should be allowed to edit the awkward and retarded ESL lyrics she's always given.
>>41372259420 blaze it
>>41372847She’s very pretty.
>>41372944hes supposed to be a bird?
/mu/god here, I tried listening to this Suisei girl on First Take... Holy shit she's better than Lisa!
>>41373034That sub really fell off hard reddtors are probably the worse croud
>>41373081He's as much of a bird as Lui
(Koyori lite) Igarashi Rika removed her debut stream.rrats or did she just fuck up and accidentally delete it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URUVKm2TU_I
>>41373092I FUCKING PROSTRATE
>>41372944A knew a homo was gonna try to join Holotori eventually kek
>>41373092Oh nonono please stop! The shark is already dead!
>>41373141>Subaruyeah good fucking luck with that faggots
>>41372944el beggar...
>>41373092Not on her channel doesn't count
>>41372988he will approach Kiara about joining holobirds... at least beggars will push it in her chat and we will have a nice clip when she tels him to fuck off.
>>41373034So, which post do you want to pin, amongst the 12 posts at the top?
>>41372909That's just the lava source blocks left from when Pekora put the water down
>>41372975> USA > EUROPE > CHINA > SINGAPORE > INDO> NOW THAI .......?? ahhh it's over…
>>41372944trying really hard to join holotori
>>41372455Leeches.
>>41373092EN Shart...
>>41372909Apparently, Iroha and chamma still online
>>41373141>>41373165the only male-collabing holotoris are mumei and reine right?
>>41373092chumshits...
>>41372944Who was he? VShojo boytoy or the spic?
>>41373034who fucking cares? it's reddit, go back.
>>41373092
>>41373177Based take
>>41373230spic
>>41373092Gura is lucky Pekora didn't aim for gold record this month
>>41372950Anon, for a long time Aki was more popular with EOP than she was with the Japanese audience.
>>41373230the mexican
>>41373092Considering Gura strangled her own music career this is a good thing.
>>41373092>Hard work, truly does pay off. The biggest reception to any Hololive related video, ever. Halving the time of the previous record. Sure, it's because it's not on Suisei's channel, but this was what she wanted, the respect she clawed her way through years in the indie wilderness to being one of the most recognized JP VTubersI am scared at what this means for her next MV. The implications are deep.What did he even mean?
I should have checked sooner but still.Let's see how many she'll get in the following days.
>>41373220Anon, they are barely a group, Kiara decide who is in on a whim. If he want in he should go beg Kiara instead
>>41373271>Sure, it's because it's not on Suisei's channel>Literally THE MOST IMPORTANT PART
>>41373016Yes, there are very few in the Japanese ネットラップ scene that have more fame than Mori honestly. She's near the top on her scene, but her scene is relatively extremely tiny compared to being a pop diva like Suisei.
Watame getting a second "Watamerino" collab. Official "Watamelon" collab when?
>>41373220honestly with how she completely dodged the homos till now considering mumei a male-adjacent only really works as shitpost with a gartic phone screenshot. and kiara is against even other girls joining "her" group, figures homos. reine is ID.
I am not even a Suisei anti and I don't even have a favourite vsinger, but looking at all those vsingers that I know, I can just conclude that: It is not fucking fair!
4k more likes to become the most liked First Take tweets
Let's see how fast Gura's Reflect gets 1 million on First Take hoshiyomikeks
>>41372874Was mentioned earlier, but it's almost certainly a large number of useless deadweights that are FINALLY being let go because they have an excuse to do so. You know the types, the ones that literally do nothing and you wonder "Why hasn't this fucker been fired yet?".
>>41373371Let's talk about it when it happen yeah?
>>41373362Easy 150M vod incoming
>>41373263>for a long timeFor six months, between her 200k subs miracle and Feb 2021 when EOP dropped off the face of the earth
https://youtu.be/L1tc5qf5c_shttps://youtu.be/L1tc5qf5c_shttps://youtu.be/L1tc5qf5c_sKOYO NO
>>41373263At least they were well behaved compared to the subhumans that destroyed Korone's chat. Makes me wonder how JP ever inclined with such mixed chats.
>>41372753>noooo someone please think of my poor pure indonesianskek sorry but HoloID will always be the dedicated Holostar support branch
>>41373371Gura is graduating, ENshart.
>>41372692Pekora cycle>play boring long JRPGs and get shit numbers>switch to minecraft and get good numbers>start a new arc and get kneel worthy numbers>do hype events and get pekoqueen numbers
>>41373371>Gooba vs Suichan
>>41372944Axel, tell your fag dont be a leech, go for kronii or mori.
>>41372874Please be nijiniggersPlease be nijiniggers
>>41373092If that counts then this would toohttps://youtu.be/L5Cb67mqPRY
>>41372563>>41372734Covers are covered by mechanical license which is nontrivial but cheap. But as soon as you attach a video, like you pretty much always would as a vtuber, then you actually have to negotiate with rightsholders and get turbofucked.
>>41372944did kaela say something to him?
>>41373404>Persona 3 .... >for free ....At least she'll likely stream twice more in the day for the numbers
>>41373383Where I work we lost 2 of our software developers to Amazon in the past 3 months. I wonder if those jobs are secure.
>>41373356List your vsingers then. I better not see discount Roboco there.
>>41373404Koyori playing a debuff game literally doesn't matter, she'll have another stream of something else within 12 hours
https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1616450487926095872https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1616450487926095872https://twitter.com/hololive_music/status/1616450487926095872
>>41373426>still having the same 20k floor like she did 2 years agoShe never improved, unlike Suisei or even Marine. She is doomed to be only a streamer and nothing more.
>>41372911>/mu/ Opinion discarded
>>41373450>Covers are covered by mechanical license which is nontrivial but cheap. But as soon as you attach a video,Yep. If they were merely putting it on streaming platforms and letting it come back as topic version, that would be one thing.But they really want it on their channels otherwise, what's the point?
>>41372874If AI does their job and they don't correct the AI's mistakes, might as well fire them and not fix the problem.
>>41372874I wonder who got fired...
>>41373448Not a song
>>41373457Ignored from the looks of things unless I missed it
>>41372944someone tag Kiara and ask her opinion
>>41372911>>41372900
>>41372874Amazon owns Twitch?
>>41373474I said I don't have a favourite vsinger, but yeah I can list quite a few that sings better than her, but you probably heard of them already in /vsinger/.
>>41373450Yeah. And even their english songs are written by some ESL Japanese writer or the Brapper herself. If only they had EN3 with a self motivated writer who wasn't into cringe rap shit, but whatever dead branch rotted by omega and the troony brigade.
>>41373495>not on Apple MusicCover sama....
>>413722561.1Mil 1.1Mil 1.1Mil>anons, I want to stop doing this but these numbers are not stopping
How do we solve the Tempiss and Tempshit problem?
>>41373448>34 minutesWow that must be some kino prog rock music work there.
>>41373092Why are you counting another channel outside her own?
>>41373092OH NO NO NO NO NO CUMSHARTS???
>>413709368-8 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>41373572Stuff takes longer to get to Apple Music than some other services, so if you don't upload it well in advance or fuck something up and have to resubmit it like Ame it can be late
>>41373610Well look at his name.
>>41373499Frankly that is what she wanted. One of her early clip was about her aiming to be the top streamer and nothing elseThere's nothing wrong with wanting to just be a big streamer
>>41373532well, I am too a management Consultant at Deloitte and this girl needs firing
>>41373271Suisei has the hard work bu people always forget that she also has the talent.
>>41373551Yup and Twitch eco-system is kept afloat by amazon welfare aka Twitch Prime, the "free" sub monthly tied to your Amazon Prime account.
>>41373092So thats mean that if Gura stream with Mr. Beast in his channelit counts too then
>>41373532>9-5>Doesn't get to work until 10:30 and leaves early.I'd be trying to get rid of her too.
>>41373654She is not even the biggest streamer in the world.
>>41373667>Song
>>41373667If Gura somehow releases a new song in Mr. Beast's channel, sure
>>41373092Delete this or I will get really angry
>>41373667>Gura>streaming
>>41373532As someone who runs on the backend, I seriously have no empathy for these people
>>41373667If it's song, sure.
>>41373643Thats not her channel retarchama. By that point every channel count then so this one too: >>41373448
>>41373532this feels like recruitment bait
>>41373699Yes but doesn't change the fact she only want to be streamer and there's nothing wrong with it
>>41373214how do you know?
>>41373348I want to eat Watame.
>>41373718It is a list of songs, you cretin
>>41373718You lost anon?
>>41373697>>41373700>>41373706>>41373715Thats mean that vbtubers are irrelevant and they need other big channels to count now. Good delete all vbtrubers then.
shiteater has fans here?
>>41372944And here is the IDs not being twats from the same stream as a comparison.
>>41373092goompig..
1.1M
>>41373718>>41373776(me)Also i said to look at his name, then you'll realize why he counted the song.
>>41373816you're gonna need to be more specific
>>41372879>she probably has to stream way more than Suisei does just for people to remember her and can’t work on her music as efficiently.Things that could help:>Make her persona more interesting and/or funny so it's easier to remember her>Make her music betterShe can do neither so I understand the meandering progress on Mori's part
I don't get the First take thing. Do people just all of a sudden start loving an artist like absolute NPC drones as soon as someone stars on that channel or something?
>>41373773>>41373776Not her channel so thats mean still didn't beat Gura. If you want song outside her channel then lets put Every Pop and American artist who crush her in less than a minute then
>>41373532Man consultant is like the dream fucking job man. People literally just pay you to tell them what to do. Hoping one day when I'm like 40 I can become a consultant
>>41373499And that is enough to know what she is capable of unironically if she wanted to she might even be able to compete with the likes of xqc
gura mogged
>Gura release a remix of Old Town Road with Lil Nas X on his channelWill that count?
>Twitter shadowbans Pekora>multiple 100k streams in a row>shadowbans Lamy>Lamy sake becomes a top seller>shadowbans Suisei>goes mainstream on The First TakeI'm seeing a pattern here for blue women
>>41373909>Not her channelOnions Last samurai resort to this nowneed leech other channel outside vbtubers
>>41373881No, just look at the previous one before suisei
>>41373881No, but getting on an invitation-only live performance channel run by Sony is widely taken as a sign that you have Made It in the JP music business
>>41373895cope
>>41373590more!More!!MORE!!!
>>41373499She lack talents. With that voice she will never be able to sing anything decently (which is frankly not her fault) but she also lack networkingShe can only reach so far as a Vtuber
>>41373895Fucker read the post that i replied to before you call me a retard. Since you are probably half blind, let me point it out for you.>>41373610
>>41373881>this ignorant
>>41373939Thats a collab unless shes the only one singing in gaynignogs channel
>>41371829Yes.
>>41373881it's exposure anon. obviously you're not gonna immediately go nuts over the newest featured artist but usually they will bring their A-game for it and that has a high chance of creating a new fan. this shouldn't even need to be spelled out.
Numberfagging Gura's vod>'Cope'Numberfagging Suisei's vod>'OMG I kneel'Nice double standards you have there, last samurais.
>>41373964Oh. I was under the impression she'll skyrocket to a 100k ccv average or some shit with how people reacted to this. I just don't get the impact.
>>41373881just continue your anime marathon
>>41373983Tell Did you beat her in your OWN channel or DID you sing in channel to leech them and just type your artist name on it.
>>41372944how long until he starts replying to Kiara's tweets?
>>41374028giftcardchama...
>>41373795YesGlad you finally noticed how "Significant" >We are on a larger scale Like, fuck, the last TGA's Creator award didn't even have a single VTuber
What the fuck is going on at Tsunderia...
>>41373717
>>41373371Gura who? lmao, go back cumshart
>>41370936missing ogayu
When will kuzuha appear on the first take?
1M+ while some of the others still can't get there after weeks. It's also one of the longest videos.Suisei schizo is going to have an aneurysm. kek
>20k likes10M in the end for sure20M at best
The fame really got to this blue bitch's headShe's never would've gotten anywhere without Hololive and this is how she acts because she leeches on another channel
>>41373859>Repeat after me: NOT HER CHANNEL!!!!!!!!!!!
>>41373795>vbtubers>vbtruberskek, is this anon seething THIS hard?
>>41373876Mori expended a ton of effort and time on her RM activities, which is obviously suboptimal. She needs to produce fewer, higher quality tracks, including some with broader appeal.But fundamentally I always felt she was a streamer who made music, as opposed to Suisei who was a singer who streamed. She constantly changes time zones, time slots, plays debuffs, bites bait, and generally filters the fuck out of any sort of consistent audience and if anything has regressed as a streamer. Hence her falling music numbers. It's not unsalvagable but she had a window of time after Myth to make the most of it. I don't think even devout deadbeats would argue she did that.
>If>If >Ifthe state of gurafriends
>>41373954The more the universe tries to supress them the stronger they become holojp is a monsterous branch
>>41374109Dont care, numbers are numbers
>>41374023>exposureHololive is the biggest thing in Japan. I think the only people who have never heard of them in Japan are literally just old people.
>>41374068Don't insult my oshi with hoshifags telling to others than now leech big channels counts. AND NOT I DON'T FUCKING CARE IT WILL NEVER COUNT
>>41374104It would be better translated as "carrying the banner of the entire vtuber world" but even with this translation it is correct
>>41372131You mean Subaru, she actually daud she as no issues going all out on Subaru>Miko she would had walked away pretending shr didn't see her
>>41374152>Hololive is the biggest thing in Japan.Stopped reading here.
>>41373129I honestly don't know whether a single person on this entire board watched that stream enough to tell you what could be wrong.
>>41374059Fuck me if that's CyberSec, she's doing less than what a standard NOC does
We can safely say that Suichan is the best singer in hololive.
>>41374151So Mr. Beast rape hoshifags then...Good
>>41374088Interesting that most of the videos on the channel seem somewhat hardcapped in views. I wonder if this one will have legs
>>41373499>>41373699>>41374000Why are you even mad, i don't get it. You mad when she gets gold and the whole thread is kneeling. But than you mad because she streams some random games for 20k people still more than your favorite vtuber, btw and gives a chance to shine for someone else. You just constantly angry because she simply exist.
>>41374104>taking screenshots of clips out of contextsuischizo fag is scrambling to get something out of this.
>>41372692
>>41374203AZKi is better
>>41374200>diversity hireShe's doing her job perfectly.>when the "nigger checkers" go through her company employment records they'll find the correct proportion of women, niggers and nigger womenThe less she actually does tho, the better
>>41373881It's kinda like a film getting nominated to the oscars.It gives you the "stamp of approval" of people high up in the chain of your field.
Niji loses, sisters devolve into fighting each other and pretending they're somehow owning some imaginary enemy. Niji wins, sisters devolve into fighting each other and pretending they're owning some imaginary enemy. Why is every day like this?
>>41374057Imploding
>>41374057Marica Bellerose poisoned Miori Celesta during MyHoloTV era and Miori brought the poison to Tsunderia. That poison? Rabies.
>>41374239Mr. Beast is a vtuber? fuck I missed his debut
>>41374104She's correct tho. Even niji fans brought up Tako to leech off of her fame.
>>41374203Always was
>>41373954>Shadowban Gura>She will just graduateAnon, do FUCKING NOT
>>41374248I kind of hate it more cause she is in a position to beat the gold record yet she will just do whatever she want. She always do this, managed to make her way so close to a goal and then fumbled and lose all of it
>>41374203/mu/ thinks KAF is better
Forget about YT number, should we numberfag streaming site?
>>41373092Imagine if she reaches 2M in less time than Gura's Reflect got 1M haha
>>41374203I'm sorry last time Gura has her first song on first 1 million in HER OWN CHANNEL. If you are using cheats codes with other channel to make other counts then we should count every single singer in the world then. Ohh Suisei sucks.. As expected
>>41374203She's the most accomplished Vsinger right behind Mori.
>>41374347who?
>first stream>24 hours endurance>valorant
>>41373881>>41374033>Sony branded music channel with over 7million subs>Appearances are invite-only and usually reserved for industry giantsThough I think the most important point:>Suisei is the very first Vtuber to ever appear on a channel with that prestige. Literally the first virtual face to introduce to newcomers, representing the industry.
>>41374327Why would she graduate getting shadowbanned from a site she wishes she was banned from?
>>41374016By the logic of this thread, it will still count anonSame as bloody this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5LaKxJVeVI
Suischizobros we are losing so fucking hard... I-I know! Lets spam the males collab to teach them a lesson!!!
>>41374104The worst part is that you don't even realise that for that moment, she unironically was.
>>41371468Tierlist time!Ranking just the debut stream impressions.
>>41374308I miss Marica, her design sucked but her voice was cute. I felt like if she stuck around a little longer she would have made it.
>>41374347So its confirmed thenSuisei is better
>>41374172Cope SeaShart
>>41374391What's the point?
Love SuichanLove AZKiLove GuraLove Sorahate Mori
>>41374385>nijifags dont be so obvious trying for Holo vs Holo
Which one is bigger ?The First Take or Budokan?
>>41374310If you want to count other channels then it count Mr. Beast now then. Otherwise the list don't changed outside faggots who don't accept that.
>>41374347people who sings covers only don't count
>>41373092>I am scared at what this means for her next MV. The implications are deep.nothing faggot it will be on her channel not on a sony-owned one, actual niji-level delusions.
>>41374052A holofan pointing out the hypocrisy of another holofan is a giftcardchama now? Last samurais really are insufferable.
>>41373541nah she "talked" with him a bit reading his messages and shit, he pretty much took over the stream for a moment.
>>41374391KOYORI WATCH OUT
>>41374367>I'm sorry last time Gura has her first song on first 1 million in HER OWN CHANNELWell, have gura be on TFT too then.>then we should count every single singer in the world then.Are they vtubers? if so then why the fuck not? I agree anon.
I just remembered that Sui has been messing with Sony for the longest time lol
>>41374347>Someone keeps spamming Kaf even though they've never heard her.No they don't. Enough with this meme.
>>41374446fastest 1m on own channel
>>41374406Don't forget to post her latest song!!!
>>41374203it depends entirely how you define "best singer", but yes, you can safely say anything you want.
>>41374481Vsen is not VERSEn.
>>41374391She should have stayed in hololive.Mikochi...
>>41374430seethe harder my oshi still above your shitty singer. Using dirty tactics won't help you either
>>41374057Males
>>41374449>If you want to count other channels then it count Mr. Beast now then.If Mr Beast becomes a vtuber then unironically there's no problem.
Here after listening to Suisei's first take perfomance and I started wondering why can't En singers like IRyS and Gura make it to such a level and also do their 1 take?It's not like IRyS or Gura don't have the skills or the technique and yes, I know IRyS's voice got fucked up. But one very intersting observation I made was that, she doesn't have the right attitude to get there. Unlike Suisei who wants to prove herself and be the number 1, my oshi doesn't like being that competitive for that kind of think and then I started thinking about the rest of the En members barring Mori and Kiara.None of them have the right character to be a leader. None of them have the winning mentality like the JOPs like Suisei do. It's like they don't have really strong ambitions in life from what I see.And there is nothing wrong in dialing down a little, but gosh damn it, I can understand why people are actually fucking crazy after JOPs like Pekora, Suisei, Miko and Aqua. They have that hunger and competitiveness feeling that Ens don't for some reason. Not having the natural talent in the case of Kiara is one thing, but when you have the talent and possess the necessary skill set yet still manage to live up to the expectations, it sucks. Someone like Gura who has the naturally gifted talent can easily break through something like this, yet they don't. Same with IRyS, she used to work super hard for her music before she became IRyS, but that hardwork kinda stopped after her ep Journey or maybe she got a little burnt out because of the voice problems she started facing last year during this time.Don't get me wrong, I am not looking down on En's like the faggots on this thread so as I personally enjoy comfy attitude more towards streaming, but when it comes to music, I really really wish IRyS and Gura took those things more seriously. I want them to reach this level too. I too want people to be proud of my oshi.
>>41374481not versen, retard
>>41374185Entertainment wise no one beats Hololive. Their global appeal of them and marketability is unmatched. I can't think of any talent agency that can match them.
>>41374410I watched the first 4 so I kinda agree with this chart. Can you explain briefly what happened to the 3 debut stream that aired today?
>>41374286>The less she actually does tho, the betterThat I would agree, I would never let her touch any of the hardware not even write access to anythingFunny enough I got to interact with one of my client's "diversity hire" and she was as knowledgeable as a rock but tried to keep face for being in her position
>>41374347literally who
>>41374057they put out auditions back in August so itll be the most desperate talents that will crop up there if it ever produces a new generation
>>41374401Thats a collab you fucking idiot
Best song everhttps://youtu.be/XqZsoesa55w
>>41374410Put Nozomi to A and I agree with you.
I see sisters and Giftcord trannies are shitting up the thread again. I will give you a refresher of your failure of a wave.
>>41374359Imagine counting other channels as her own just for leech
>>41374261Pekora is using the crop rotation strat. Streaming buffed content everyday gives numberrot and viewers get used to buffed content. With long playthroughs, she consolidates the new tourists and detoxes the numberpoison from her old fans
>>41374414Don't hold your breath anon. I think she is all around just a shit streamer, like the rest of MyHoloTV members.
>>41374308Don't talk about my cute Saber like that anon.
Just saying it's a nijinigger behavior to leech other channel for records.Though I hope Suisei break some records on that channel like fastest to 10m-50m
>>41374391Migona...
>>41374523She should have stayed in VSPO, could have gotten Benny lewdshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quSt3tQo0w4
>>41374436BASED SNOW ELF
>>41374410Fuck off to your shithole, nijinogs
>>41372944This fag is reeealy trying to insert himself into holo birds huh
>>41374446how would you even compare the two? it's not like they have identical conditions for happening
>>41374581Wait i jwu is this the birthday stream? It didnt beat mumei??????
>>41374393Wouldn't that just mean she is free from being Suisei? Fuck it just go full fleshtuber and become your own brand without Cover leeching.
>>41374538IRyS IRyS IRyS IRyS IRyS
>>41374446Budokan isn't even that big
>>41374592Nah it's not some big brain strats or anything, it's just a very sustainable way to maintain audience in entertainment industry. Big bands don't release new album every month, there must be a cool down phase
>>41374203Azu-chan still mogs her.
>>41374057
>>41374538Irys never worked that hard for her music. At most she did one cover every month or two
>>41374538It's simple, we can blame the management all we want, but the fact that Kiara still does her 100% says something. You are right regarding none of the Ens having the right mentality or motivation. It's why streamers like Ina and Gura continuously go on breaks
>>41374660Nope, also didn't beat Sana's birthday.
Where is Ado's First Take?
>>41374538Not even reading the rest but since you are making effort for this bait, I will entertain you.>why are IRyS and Gura not invited to The First Take?1. No good orisong 2. No paid concert done3. Not under Sony before
>>41374581>calling out a non-vtuber corpo channel is now being giftcordare >we nijisanji now? good job is this different than boosting views with an ad? delusions
>>41374660Yeah, it's the bday stream. I guess you could say Luxiem didn't do as well as expected.
>>41374551I dealt with that too. Never ever EVER assigned anything critical or that had any chance to go to production
>>41374663Suisei is her own brand anon, she owned it.
>>41372874Oh no!
Reminder that iytb is also getting the fastest 20m this ff days
Holokeks go straight into infighting when they supposedly 'win'. Being a nijichad is easy and fun.
>>41374753NIJICOEP
>>41374391Power wash simulator and i forgot the other game
>>41374185What's more marketable than Hololive? They have streamers that can shill pretty much anything to any region of the world. By far the most popular online presence than anything from Japan you dumb fuck.
>>41374711>Kiara still does her 100%>still be the least popular EN.Life is cruel.
The next step is important, Suisei needs to stay unique enough.Vtuber is a niche, which Suisei can overcome her skill issue, but mainstream is different.If she is too generic, it may cause some problem.
our time will come soon sis!
>>41374715>>41374761Lmao faggots said this was gold for sure
>>41374538Because the end are actually surrounded with actual lazy whores.Look at Kronii, Ina, Sana, Gura. These 4 are the literal definition of failing to reach the required expectations and doing the bare minimum. This is why is JP viewers don't like EN
>>41374785I'm sure this thread's "chumbuds" are all completely real and authentic.
What the actual fuck is Mysta doing Also>19k likes
>>41374825I won't be surprised if the next vtuber will be Mito or Chronoir.
>>41374642Wish I could insert myself into holobirds.
>>41374825lmao nijibeggars strike again
>>41373092Fixed for you Hoshifag
>>41374711I really dislike all the Myth girls after that VR collab where Kiara said "we should promise ourselves that we will work harder this year" and someone just said "sometimes it is not us" and everyone else agreed. They don't want to work hard and management can only be an excuse for so long.
>>41374436based
>>41374538Anon, in 2 and a half years Gura has one original song. She is far, far, far, too lazy and/or unambitious to ever make a dent. Mori is basically the only HoloEN who would even have a chance, because, like Suisei she works hard as hell and has those greater ambitions to drive her.
>>41374570Same with Q
>>41374751This is not a bait anon, I genuinely mean every word there. IRyS is my Day 1 oshi and some of her songs are above average
Man two years from now there's gonna be people in the hobby who started from this video...
>>41374663Given her attachment to her model, she'll never sing without it. If she were to stop being Suisei though, i doubt she'll ever reach the same height, her songs are decent but yet to be exceptional, she still need the box the keep her relevant when she's absent too.
>17th and 25thHer album has a decent run at mora on the 20th of January. The album was crushing this chart during its release date though. But let's see what happens on the next day.I believe this digital song downloads platform tends to be less normie than Recochoku. Recochoku also still has to release its charts. If Suisei does rank better at Recochoku, I will assume that she penetrated the normie market relatively well.
>>41374538People with that sort of mentality in the EN world don't become vtubers. And lets be real, it's much harder to become anything significant in the vtuber world when you're not Japanese.
>>41374535First take isn't a vbtuber channel so thats mean mr. Beast count NOW
>>41373415Kaela wasn't their bitch so far... would suck if new homos changed it
ABSOLUTELY CUTE Suisei cosplay but....>I can't take my eyes of that chunkiest cosplay in the backgroundIs that ... an anatomically correct Polka?
>>41374401well? count it then. let's be consistent about these things.
>>41374866OofSomeone's seething.
>>41374899You're too biased
Fun fact : Suisei collabing with nijisanji and being a unityfag helped her get this huge numbers
ENsharts and clinging to 2020 numbers. Name a better combo
>>41374044still cope
>>41374837Can't accept the fact that your fandom is full of low eq kids?
>>41374581Reminder Axel and Magni got like 10k on their Birthday streams so Mysta is barely even above them.
>>41374899What was IRyS comment about this newest anime season during last IRyS twitter space?
>>41374935>vbtuberWhat's a vbtuber?
>>41374966Aloucucks...
>>41374538IRyS should have been a normal streamer at JP.That way, she would have people like Watame, Towa, Kanata, Suisei, Sora, AZKi, etc to look uptoAs much as I don't like Mori, I hate to admit she works hard but her lyrics probably makes IRyS cringe so she doesn't even bother putting on the effort
>>41374935That's why we're only considering the one video that DOES feature a vtuber and not the entire fucking channel.If Mr Beast releases a song presenting himself as a "vbtuber", count it.
>>41374866To this Q is carried only by people recognizing the names Gura and Mori. Song is painfully forgettable and the MV is unexciting.
>>41374910She still has the right to her character, no?
>>41374959Tokokek pls stop
>>41374570By the logic of hoshifags every channel counts NOW.
>>41374548 - Kuramochi Meruto (C) was kinda boring, apart for a big part where she broke a bunch of tiles with a karate chop.Cute voice, cute design but just doesn't stand out. - Kaburaki Roco (B) larped as an amusement park executive doing a presentation, which was really dry for 2/3rds of the stream. Did a bunch of irl challenges at the end which was fun.She was pushed of screen by the stream ending in her traditional, quirky way of using the model and props.Potential clearly there, just the theme took down the debut a bit. - Shishido Akari (D) started with a male voice changer, which just made everyone convinced she was using a VC to sound that cute for the rest of the stream. Her voice is annoyingly cute but the point that really sank the stream was when her game choices were Apex, Valo, Tarkov and Splatoon. No EOP interest at all. Also mouth rigging bad.Otherwise she did the most straightforward debut with slides about her interests.
>>41374962You being obsessed with a branch you hate cause of a 2 year old grudge?Oh and you also seem to have a need to tell everyone about your scat fetish constantly.
>>41374966I really like that art with the Chinese calligraphy on it. It is a great pun suits for niji and the year of rabbit.
>>41372911Good take.
>>41374949You have to numberfag Spotify then.The Spotify ver. has more streams than Marine Box.6.96M on Spotify in a month is beyond vtuber tier.
>>41375012For the analogy to work it would have to be even more elaborate: a vtuber would have to release a song on Mr Beast channel
>>41375015Eigo jouzu.
>>41374977I'm not a chumbud.
>>41374690Is not-Korone still active?
>>41374959This. also don't forget collabing with homos, that move gave her female fans
>>41374538MY RRAT TELL ME YOU SHOULD KYS ALREADY
>>41375033type that without crying this time lol shart
>>41374910I guess you're right. From my point of view though I think she can be an actual artist with a real face or something. Because when you think about it normie culture will never accept vtubers and yet it has a wider audience.
>>41375047>You have to numberfag Spotify then.why? we're talking about youtube then. not against it on principle, but it sounds like a fucking hassle to maintain, unless you offer yourself to start now tracking spotify numbers too.
Surprised nobody has brought up Tempiss yet this thread
>>41375087No, I honestly think you should get help. Being constantly angry for multiple years isn't healthy. Even if I can understand hating the world with you being a flip and all.
why does it matter if its Marine or Gura or Suisei at the topAs long as its a Holo, WHO CARES!!!!
>>41374059>slow weeksThat sort of thing never happens does it? My experience is there is no end to the work and if you're lucky you get to work on mountains of technical debt since you're retarded and used "temporary" workarounds to meet a trump up deadline.
>>41375060Sure anon.
>>41373165She tasted Maimoto's cock on stream already.
>>41374988I don't remember much, but she was talking about chainsaw man and how much she wanted to see Reze in one of the streams/space and started going to the normal anime tangents. And yes was talking about how the new gundam that has Yuri is kinda not that good because of Yuri as she is a fujoshi.
>>41375118too irrelevant
>>41375118what do you mean? right now is seething and falseflagging time
>>41375031I see. Not sure why people like Roco the most out of VTA. I don't watch VTA. Seems like there are awful lot of new debut that streams fps this time (4 out of 7? Can't remember). Is nijisanji trying to steal viewers from Vspo and Neoporte?
>>41375136>Asking this question in the tribalfagging threadngmi
>>41375136>guraNot hololive
>>41375136You don't understand anon>Holo vs HoloIt has to be this way!
>>41374935Butterfinger chumbuds
>>41375136Not all superstars are made equal.
Twitter really treat Mori like a laughing stock
>>41375015Nah, I’ve listened to covers of it by other vtubers and it was still nice. Of course, liking some of HoloEN’s songs doesn’t change the fact that I don’t like HoloEN, so listening to other vtubers’ covers is my way of supporting the songs, not the people who made them.
>>41375118Not the hot topic right now testicle lover
Fucking kek apparently there's a chuuba who's a superfan of Matsuri of all people (even she was surprised).They met offline and she managed to actually get Matsuri creeped out at the obsession level.
>>41375156Wrong. Another chance. Which holomem's canned cake was she defrosting last Space?
>>41375184Well, they can't steal them from hololive and vspo has been stealing the fps crowdd from nijisanji so...
>>41375136Wrong thread faggot this is the mental illness and anti thread go back
>>41375118Sisters are latching to Suisei to deflect from their homo underperforming to almost Tempus homo levels and their shiny new NijiJP livers having worst first stream numbers than fucking Tempus 2.
>>41375203Please understand, Mysta got embarrassing numbers for his BD stream, someone needs to cover it up.
>>41374872https://streamable.com/rzax14
>>41374538>I can understand why people are actually fucking crazy after JOPs like Pekora, Suisei, Miko and Aqua.... Mfw I like them the least ...
>>41375238Kek
>>41372782how are you already a grown man by the time your Aunt is getting married
>>41375270that's okay anon, a chuuba can't please everyone even if she was literally perfect. just don't sperg about it. yes, i know where we are.
>>41375246Matsuri is a glass cannon though. Girl's got 0 defense to others pulling the same sorta stunts she does to other people.
>>41374538This really makes me appreciate Kiara. The girl doesn't have the technical skills like Ame, music like Mori, hype like Gura, comfy streams and art skills like Ina, ASMR skills like Fauna, hot voice and model like Kronii, voice acting skills like Bae and singing like IRyS yet she gives her 100%Life isn't fair guys
>hOLo vS HoLoNiji EN lite hasn't been able to compete against hololive since their debut. Stop being delusional
>>41375228Her music is fire on mute
>>41375047Spotify is the twitch of music
>>41373572
>>41375118If anyone from holostars as a whole got a chance to do a first take they wouldn't incline at all.
Goompig bro's what should goomba do to beat suisei's numbers?
>>41372847Sora and Aogiri on the same cover...
>>41375012Anon using other channel to rise success is the same as leeches but post your FIRST song in that channel thats and say it "Still counts" is even worse.Suisei didn't beat gura because that channel wasn't for vbtubers at all. She win against the other people on that channel yeah of course But if you want to defeat the 10 hours and half She need to do it in her own channel and release the premier IN her own channel and not using thirds for that shit
>>41375266damn, kinda sad
>>41375270You probably just love comfiness, I fell in love with Pekora because the entire world seem like it’s against her, she always seem like she got the short end of the stick, yet she push through all of it.She is who I want to be
>>41375315Stop it! She's already dead!
>>41375118Falseflagger cant post cause they are seething rn
>>41375266Kiara is unlikable but the response of other girls make them even more unlikable.
>>41375350first step: streamthe rest is stuck behind that
>>41375249What??How am I wrong. I swear she was talking about Chainsaw man and how she didn't complete it but was eventually going to and how much she wants to see the Reze arc
>>41375350Don't use my oshi in you crap Hoshifags. Using third party channel don't make you count at all. Use you fucking channel next time you piece of shit
>>41374948That's Aki...
>>41375324>Shit on Gura constantly every day>"Guys stop this Holo v Holo, we should just get along."Fuck you faggots, hypocritical and two-faced
>>41375350Show her cunny on stream
>>41375228Are these actual lyrics for her songs? And I thought Im Greedy was bad.
>>41375353I genuinely couldn't care less about what metric is used for the 1M milestone, I was just pointing out that the "ok if suisei in an external channel is allowed then EVERY ARTIST ON EARTH + MR BEAST SHOULD BE ADDED TO THE LIST" argument is fucking retarded and why.
>>41375315I would listen to a kiara song over a mori song 100% of the time
>>41375350Releasing more music would be good start.
>>41375246Axel...
>>41375228This reads like a parody
>>41375136Enfags only cares about unity if it favors them or when other holos makes them look bad
>>41375405I don't supa but I'd throw 5 akas if she did
>>41375412No it’s a parody Twitterfag made upBut the fact you actually thought that was her lyrics speak volume
>>41375246there was sex or harassing?
>>41375402When did i say that everyone should get along? EN is trash and you faggots should know your place.
>>41375386Chainsawman was last season.
>>41375382What was the response? the clip was cut
>>41374538Anon, is they were actually this ambitious about music, they would just become singers
>>41375118You mean like the spic bird trying hard to leech off of Kobo and Kaela? He's definitely begging HoloEN for collabs.
>>41375246>probably tried to rim Matsuri
>>41375400The costume doesn't look like Aki or a holo
>>41375402Hoshifags shitting own Gura and using other channels while saying "Still counts" their own crap. Call me when she really defeat her using premiers in her own channel instead using third parties
>>41375485I don't listen to her songs actually
>>41375184Roco has quite a bit of history. She was the last of the 1st Gen VTAs to debut and, unlike previous graduates, her VTA VODs were deleted in October, meaning that fans had no idea where she was for 4 whole months and lost hope. During her time in VTA, while everyone else was focusing on dancing and singing and improving their streams, Roco was just being a quirky little retard off in the corner, which enamoured a lot of fans. Even after Ranunculus and Voltaction graduated they still brought her up in passing as the funny friend they loved talking to. Now she's been given her big break and how does she spend it? She rents out amusement parks in Tokyo for a skit and spends approximately 0 seconds talking about herself. She fits perfectly into that Mito/Tamaki/Salome brand of being a fuckin weirdo that isn't EOP-friendly at all.
Why are holostarn EN numbers so schizo and all over the place?>boys getting like 1k-2k views on average>but a collab between Moron, Kronk, Vest and fourth one gets the biggest views of the season for holoEN after Ina's comeback streamWhere are the holonegro holostar viewers for the normal streams?
>>41374538
>>41374391holy based
>>41375495Gura is still and always will be the face of Hololive. Seethe.>Most subscribed>Fastest selling merch>Fastest orisong to 1 million on her own channel
>>41375528The comparison may be apples to oranges but it is still very impressive.
Hololive still didn't land a hit but they surely are giving TikTok a fair chancehttps://www.tiktok.com/@hololive_officialTheir only 1M+ is this Chloe cute videohttps://www.tiktok.com/@hololive_official/video/7171376080769617153The thing about TikTok is that they only need to land ONE hit. A single one is enough to open a HUGE audience.
>>41375441Go listen to Heart Challenger for an hour straight anon.
>>41375515>melissatoo ambitious but get ignored by Riku to the point decide to neck her self
>>41375528Just get gura on TFT anon, problem solved. You could make the same case for her after that too.
Would you watch Hololive English if they made a guild like Tempus entirely of female talents?
>>41375448Reflect (Jazz mix) and Reflect (Rock mix) coming soon.
>>41375184I always go back to this to present Roco's VTA antics.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOP8poio7fIBasically, while everyone was just doing zatsu with a PNG, she was already being a Vtuber with props, skits and roleplay streams.Apex and Valo is Really big with young JP girls now. As a gap moe girly thing to do.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-4ae-mNWCEAkari and Toru look to be permanently FPS poisoned of the bunch. Toru (purple) will definitely find a niche with her chill style while Akari's trying to prove herself.Akari now streaming 24 hour valo. Mouth rigging fixed and her voice sounds more normal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfGrm1erTtQ
>>41375567>is deadLike I said. Stop being delusional
Mystaflips status?
>>41375580Have you seen Kobo's only video?
>>41375580Also: Okayu, how come she's THIS popular there?
>>41375552>She fits perfectly into that Mito/Tamaki/Salome brand of being a fuckin weirdo that isn't EOP-friendly at allDOA, at least for vt.
>>41375580Fubuki's voice is in a bunch of really popular tiktoks.
>>41375606Having a fan war posing as a chumbud
>>41375472it is
>>41375266man I've never seen a JP ignoring responsibility like these girls are doing...I mean sure, even they have a lot of beef with management and often whine about them, but they always have that drive to improve THEMSELVES first and foremost.Kiara understands this as well, and I think when saying this she is in the JP mentality of "Ok, others might mess up as well - since EN management is dogshit - but we can at least keep our side of the bargain!" so that they maybe have better negotiating positions (I can assure you that at least some of the shit that EN management shuts down is because they have realized how quickly the girls get bored of something. Which may explain the lack of long form content or other JP style main channel content from EN).But the first fucking thing EVERY SINGLE ONE of them says is "It's not always us". I mean, Kiara acknowledges that - even they themselves acknowledge that SOMETIMES they mess up, but the FOCUS - the focus that they want to put is always on "others".There's not a single fucking hint of self improvement among a single one of the girls there, despite Kiara's pleading.I'm never blaming management 100% ever again, this shit is on the talents' laziness as well.
>>41375606Doing a 619 on his CCV
>>41375578She beat the people there and thats impressive but i don't think she will get above 100 millions thats asking too much. Now the real challenge will be if she can do it in her own channel instead
>>41374959This could be bait, or not, but I unironically think it's true. She's "safe" from both sides of the biggest vtubing companies.
>>41375608Checking it now, seems like she has two. 2.9M; not bad but not a hit for that platform standards.
>>41375506Ok ok, I kinda remember now. She was talking how there are not a lot of "Hyped up anime" or big anime airing this season, then she checked her phone. I remember her mentioning Vinland Saga. She mentioned she is really excited for Bungou stray dogs though and how not everyone will like that as it has a lot of Ikemen in it. And i actually don't remember the cake story. In one the older streams she did mention Bae's cake though
>>41375580Anon look Gura. She has too many every day.
>>41375606still streaming...to 6k people now lol
>>41375679She literally did nothing, and she did not use her most popular tag(1.1B) in any video.
>>41375015I'd say the song is carried by the MV (Kay Yu's animation does magic).The song without the MV is dogshit to listen to, but with the MV it's kinda cool.
>>41375588Not really I would count her in that channel against fleshtubers who of course are much better that her
>>41375266And people blame EN management for the state of the branchNo wonder Kiara keeps praising the JP holos during her stay in Japan
>>41375675>openly supported Coco in 2020 and almost became persona non grata to nijisanji and most of the industry
>>41375246Matsuri sorta did it to herself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXZfiy7X0F4>2021The girl has been startstruck since.
>>41375620100% vt will not take to Roco at all. The question is whether the JP oldfags will adopt her as one of their own. She was a 4-view when she was just a PNG so I doubt she'll fall below that now.
>>41375682>Vinland SagaIs this actually good? Heard it’s also a strugglekino manga like Vagabond and Berserk
>>41375586Who?
>>41375118It's almost as if people in this thread talk about chuuba industry hot topics.
>>413757457.5M + 1.2M ( two versions) on Spotify btw
>>41375642>I've never seen a JP ignoring responsibility like these girls are doingA case of JP culture vs western culture.
>>41375580The talents themselves don't need to do anything, both Gura and Kobo has over a billion views on their most popular hashtag
>>41375775The first 2 arcs are up there with Berserk and Vagabond
>>41375775It's pretty good.
>>41375598>that RocoShe seems fun, but her voice is not cute or cool or pleasant to the ear at all. I find that nijisanji hire lots of girls with meh voice while every single holomem has good voice.All the best to Akari. Not my type of content but I hope she can be the next Chihiro.
>>41375552So Roco is a discount Polka? ngmi
>>41375493imagine Kiara's first collab with Pegor
>>41375580>HUGE audienceYeah, one that can only pay attention to something that is 5-10 seconds long. Not much worth to that.
>>41375807more like mentally inmature women
>>41375705Anemic
https://youtu.be/efViUID_FgMPredictions?
>most of Mysta's SC is YENholosisters? I thought he only had chink and SEA fans???
>>4137586330-40k
>>41375760But she didn't, Tokomachi radio didn't stop. As I said, she's "safe" and more neutral.
>>41375858I mean general
>>41375880I am not talking about hashtags and user submitted content, but about the official Holo channel (and some of the girls channels)
>>41375266>>41374872>I feel so motivated again, seeing all my JP senpai working so hard and with such passionthis line the other day did feel like a dig at the EN branch.Kiara should move back to Japan.
>>41375871go back to sleep tranny
>>413735901.2Mil 1.2Mil 1.2Mil
>>41375858the only EN that actually used this dog platform was Amelia since Moris is apparently run but some background corporate rats even then Amelia stopped after like a month of uploads lol
>>41375871SEA are poor and chinks can't pay in their own currency.
>>41375871holobronies...we're lying?
>>41375854I mean, Japan has this thing of apologizing for everything. West doesn't.
>>41375775Stuff until the end of Season 2 (i.e. Farmland) is pretty good.But recently it's become shit (manga) due to contrived conflict creation bullshit.
>>41375863What can we do to improve Pegors game taste? Seeing her getting shit numbers for game she like seem miserable
>>41374538Unironically, the main reason Hololive En doesn't want to work as hard as their Jo counterparts is because of how successful they were at the time they debuted. They got literally everything presented to themAlso>>41375642
>>41375871>Chinese YENretard
>>41375871DELETE THIS
>>4137586337k first stream, 27/28k the next ones.
>>41375871>>most>39%>Mainlander SCs will all be in yen if they VPN to Japan anywayAnon please
>>41375775Don't bother. It's largely inferior to the other two, and Vagabond is already shit.
Ok, I am sold on Enna after this stream. She actually can talk some interesting stuff without repeating herself or resort to screaming or making autistic noises. I am getting cucked either way if I stayed and watch HoloEN might as well bite the bullet and jump the ship now.
>>41375493apparently a lot of things Matsuri thought were "cool" are considered "lame" by modern JK which she painfully found out.
>>41375920Holy shit it do be fast, the numbers keep coming
>>41376015Pretty much how I felt too except I switched to Pipp
>>41375871That's Vox. Mysta has lots of JP sister fans which explains his high median.
>>41375228>TwitterIt's just Nijitrannies and 2view trannies seething.
>>41376015And never come back ENshart.
>>41371151>vesper inclining based
>larping on the ass end of page 10Why?
>>41376015ennacuck, please stop
>>41376069I didn't say I don't watch the JPs.
>>41375963Incurable. You just have to sit through it or get filtered every now and then.
so that clears up who is shitposting>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=Goompig+
>>41376038by the way, Youtube is still verifying views
Why does niji always milk every stream possible? I just hate the way they do streams. 90% filler talking with no substance whatsoever.
>>41374538Holo En was a let down because of how promising it was at the beginning. I remember thinking 'oh wow, they are just months in and already making some of the best content here, I can't wait for them to keep on going and continue improving'. Well that's still a dream I guess
I didn't watch Elira's, and I'm definitely not watching Finana's, but what about Pomu's 3D? Does she deserve the pitywatch?
>>41376159Well it still is by the 5th hour, we'd see how it goes 24H after
>>41376160Do they have other source of revenue like holos?
>>41376015Ennacuck...
>>41376170Kiara will shill her 3D
>>41376128Of course it was the Selenfag.
>>41376170Decide by yourself. We are not your parents
>>41376197Who was the fastest using their song on that channel
>>41375871Faggot, Chinese YEN
>>41376170It's easy for me, I never and will never watch any nijiEN stream
>>41376015Stop larping, faggot.
>>41375642>>41375807>A case of JP culture vs western culture.Sometimes people miss that the most common "cheer" that nips learn from theri early age is>ganbatte!which gets translated as the western equivalent>good luck!but that actually means>work hard, persevere and do your best!That might be the one word that the nip girls most often used words when they want to disclose what they are striving for.When A-Chan woke up Sora yesterday (see below)>A-Chan Wakes Up Sora IRL and Shows Us Her Cute *Morning Voice*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIR80XmeKgcand asked her what she had to tell her fans, Sora said>Kyou wa mo genki ni ganbarou!Meaning roughly>let's cheerfully do our best today too!"Ganbatte", like "kirei" is the absolute mentality of the japanese with people failing to do it being considered outcasts and useless.That's a HUGE contrast with how things work in the present day western world, with the word to describe their mentality being>hustlewith the meaning being "getting the most advantage with the minimal effort"