/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>41320579
/ΜΑΝS/ Commandments.
>1. Why not merge with /stars/?
Thou shall not override the discussion of thy neighbor.
>2. Do you guys want collabs with Hololive?
It is not of our concern.
>3. Do you guys want collabs with Nijisanji?
It is not of our concern.
>4. Did you guys see the boys numbers?
It is not of our concern.
>5. Did you see what /hlgg/ is saying?
Thou shalt not waste time on their foul words.
>6. The baiters are insulting your bros!
Thou shalt not waste time on their foul words.
>7. Hey I bring news from Hololive/Nijisanji!
Thine words do not belong in this temple.
>8. You guys should split the thr-
Thou shalt not.

Therefore I declare this thread, sanctified.

>>41320657
Amen

>>41320657
AMEN
>>41320686
Chu~

>>41320677
Bettle. support the new boys

>>41320657
Amen.

>>41320657
Amen.

>not baking with flayon

>>41320677
I don't see the second one on my screen anymore.
Easy choice.

ENTER RIO

>>41320677
Bettel

ENTER

nowa love

CHUPADO

>>41320730
Stream's almost over bud.

Rio is already grooming the shota

I love my leader so much!

>>41320677
nothing personal just prefer vesper for this kind of content

Rio....

>>41320657
AMEN

>>41320755
fucking bitch!

>>41320734
Based and same. Pretty funny to think back on how sad I was just two months ago, wondering if Vesper would be graduating. Now I'm not even subscribed anymore.

Doing archive reps before watching the streams I slept through. Who said they are a possessive person?

Rank the 8 boys in order from most normie to most autistic.

Rio so cute.. He loves his cute TEMPUS kouhai

what's with vtubers and "motion sickness"?

>>41320841
Altare in his minecraft stream.

>>41320755
Nowa Love

>>41320841
Altare did.

>>41320895
We already knew that though?

>>41320841
so that's why he no longer watches Vesper's stream
like a scorned male, he hates anything he cannot have

Almost time for sex clown!!!!

Both of them are going to be superchat readings, what's the difference

>>41320895
sasuga leader, I heard hakka joined too which is nice I am going to make something good to eat and watch the VOD

>>41320579
Live now:
>Flayon Ghost Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0RcmLnpqU

Upcoming:
>Vesper - Zatsudan 07JST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXeC2cgAi0
>Bettel - SC Reading 07JST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppr6qiZpzGY
>Altare FFXIV 09JST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBdqdP4VJss
>Flayon - Portal 2 collab Part1 10JST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=munDeNRwG5Y
>Shinri - Portal 2 collab Part1 10JST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FGWuy7eVDQ
>Hakka - Yasuhati 12JST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2apK2TvPG0

>>41320911
I just answered the question man

He smells like strawberries...I know someone else who smelled like strawberries....

UOOOOH FLAY SMELLS LIKE STRAWBERRIES

When does the one hour stream limit end?

>>41321016
Jan 31st

>>41321016
In one week I think

>>41321016
Next week.

>>41320942
That one of them isn't a pathologic liar and numberfag that has no interest in his kouhais the group in general and who can't do basic communication out of sc reading streams.

>>41320942
I guess it depends how they approach it which you would prefer

>>41320984
*chu* thank you frame anon!

im a bettelhead and a vestie aieeeee

Enjoy the comfy thread while we can, not even the fujos will be able to save us soon

>>41321058
Bettel is a home wrecker

I can't believe THE noir vesper blew off his own guild's full collab to skin his manager alive and secure XCOM perms by himself! sasuga no meds vesper!

Hakka my beloved

The word Vent is forever tainted

>>41320987
Blessed Flayon meows, not even the senpai can resist

>>41321016
In 60 minutes

>>41321151
Get off vent or I'll have you bent?

such good VA...

>>41321093
watch both in holodex mute vesper when he start to read SC

Daddy?

>>41321093
>im a bettelhead and a vestie aieeeee

Same, I'm going to turn on both. I'll probably end up actually watching Vesper's stream though while I let Bettel's run in a muted tab because Gramps is still #1 for me

>>41320579
Eating Tempura!

>>41321171
Blow it out your ass

he dropped the babby voice lol

>>41321205
I don't remember writing this

>Tries to do a little kid voice
>Can't
>"Fuck it"
>Just reads it

>daddy

Need a sound clip of that Daddy

>I don't like superchat reading streams I'm going to watch Bettel do a superchat reading stream to spite Vesper!
Literal children

>>41321229
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>41321229
That gummy magmite looks good

What were the best moments from today's Minecraft collab? There are no timestamps on the VOD yet...

god his chat is terrible

>>41320984
>>Vesper - Zatsudan 07JST
>>Bettel - SC Reading 07JST
Already overlapped the new boys, this lying bitch

Vesper Bad

>>41320949
That Minecraft VOD is definitely worth the watch - I just finished it. Altare was so, so happy. Hakka's chemistry with him is so good.

GET SPREADSHEETED IDIOT

>>41321229
I have some concerns about eating the Vesties given the latest pandemic...
Eh, what's the worst that can happen, amirite?

>>41321301
It's because he is cute and funny

>>41321285
Dafuq are you on about? People don't like that every one of his zatsus turns into a sc reading stream, not that he's reading them in general.

>>41321296
The whole time Hakko was there

>says he won't overlap with the new boys or he'll feel terrible
>immediately overlaps with Bettel as soon his ass is in hot water

The lies keep piling up

>hates aussie milk
aniki...

>>41321114
Clown thighs though...

>australian milk

>>41321345
This isn't even a 4chan meme you retard

>>41321229
Axel no

>woah i'm inside you

SNIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>Hates australian milk
Does that actually exist or is he being autistic

>>41321296
The beginning is decent too, but it's all A+ content from the moment Hakka joins.

>>41321296
They covertly implying they're out for each other's necks. Hakka is just doing this to exorcise him

Also 3AM LA HORA DEL DIABLO

>>41321382
This. There is no reason to keep timelooping complaints even if they are fair complaints but nobody would be upset if he just did supa readings and zatsus seperately because he has a hard time doing both at once.

Vesper is my nigger, I can't be mad at him

>>41321458
i doubt Australia imports milk, so...

This motherfucker just said Nier Jestalt

can you not spam nowa when a stream is live, just 15 minutes anon

NEED unmedicated wine aunt vesmama to wring me dry.

RACIST CHILD

>>41321489
Based

>>41321524
anon they dont care enough to change

>>41321296
Huh that's weird, I watched the VOD a few minutes after it was over and there was a comment with a bunch of timestamps but it's gone now...

>>41321546
Is it racist if it's against your own race?

>>41321524
can you not spam nowa timeloop complaints when a stream is live, just 15 minutes anon

lmao that scene gets me everytime

>you live and die by your solo content
>I will never change
kek

i love his deeper voice so much aaah

>>41321400
Needs more bruises.

flayon is gonna be a father....

7EMPUS LOVE

>>41321571
I wonder what happened then

Hmm. Flayon is actually pretty cute.

>>41321605
>he will spam zatsu until he die
based

this flayon guy is kinda fun!

UUUUOOOOOH SIZE DIFFERENCE!!!

>>41321485
>>41321482
Hakka was unbearable for me on debut but I really enjoy him in collabs, he's fucking funny. He's still a bit too zoomer for me to enjoy solo but he's improved a lot in my opinion.

Flayon is still unbearable to me, especially in collabs. I actually cringed when he did the 'ehehe lmao I bought a dog toy even though I have a dog aren't I so quirky?!' thing on stream last night, it was like trying to interact with a 13 year old on LiveJournal circa 2006. My fucking soul lost HP.

>>41321489
Grandpa is simply too based for me to stay mad at him

>>41321630
it’s really good

>>41320346
>>41320401
thank you! :)

I hope Flay stays safe on this train...

>>41321673
they probably deleted the comment because it's incomplete.

>>41321673
Sometimes Youtube decides that comments with too many timestamps are spam. Those same comments tends to show up again after a day or two though.

didnt altare get on this train

>>41321738
It's a japanese train...

>>41321747
Magnoir love...

BIRB LOVE

>>41321524
I do not give a fuck about flayon

>>41321724
any plans to continue? ;-;

Credits - drawanon (not me)

>>41321814
Then you're in the wrong thread.

I need altare and flayon to have a one on one collab

>>41321791
Hakka cute~

>>41321840
Nice

https://youtu.be/QLKAGnkF79A?t=298
>My name is alfonso
HOLY SHIT SELF DOXX

>>41321843
sorry I thought I wasn't in /Flay/

based. i hate kids.

>>41321849
Altare said he might drive over to visit him ToT

>>41321724
I've seen a few fic writers on twitter interested in this ship, gonna be watching the tags on ao3 with great interest.

>>41321849
Altare was actually saying that Flayon seems to live only a few hours away from him, so they'll probably offcollab at some point

That's the second time he "accidentaly" went into the females room...

>>41321840
I wasn't sure about this design when magni was starting it but it's actually pretty great especially rendered like this

is this shota...
secretly a pervert?

>>41321667
I love all the members of 7empus!

>>41321948
>secretly

>>41321948
didnt Hakka call him a pervert in a collab?

>>41321818
>>41321899
i have more written but i want to wait longer to see their dynamic more. that collab was so fun, i just got carried away... i'll definitely post it if i finish!

>solo the christmas song because the other guys couldn't make it
>comes up with excuses on spot when Flayon almost fucked up and revealed himself before his debut
>very supportive of his kouhais, joins Tempurple which is a hit
>kills off his ship with Chupado and now ships himself with Flayon to give his kouhai some very needed spotlight
>ships himself with Vesper too, to act as lifeboat for him while Vesper is under hot waters
>sniffled a bit after playing a fanmade game dedicated to him

MAGLORD, MORE LIKE MAGJESUS, OUR SAVIOR AND THAT IS GOOD IN THE WORLD

cute edit anons

>>41321884
????????????????????????????????????? LOL what the flying fuck the silence after

>>41321948
>porn novels

What does Flayon's cunny smell like?

This game ain't all that

>>41322005
Based writeanon!
Makes sense, the new boys still gotta collab more for us to get a good sense of the dynamics.

>>41322008
It's too bad he hates white people

>>41321948
God I hope so.

>>41321908
Altare finna wreck that bussy fr fr

>5 mins left
>under 900 waiting room
Vesper Noir is dead

They really need to do another Raft-esque, survival sandbox game so they can all join
Rust, Project Zomboid, 7 days to die, Vallheim

>>41322008
>all the boys ditch magni and make him do a solo christmas song
>nobody says anything since its more than one talent

>>41322012
? I thought it was going to be an edit without vesper in it, i am disappointed

did altare reach this part? i don't remember.

>>41322008
>kills off his ship with Chupado
Dyrbi?

>>41322025
he just told us, strawberries

>>41322008
I fucking love Magni.

>>41322008
don't forget when Axel has carried. He carried that entire time Ves was gone. Mag and Aniki can carry tempus when they need to

>>41322030
I think this was the Chilla's game that Shinri said he didn't like.

>>41321766
Strawberries go great.... with cream....

>>41322076
do it yourself anonchama
TEMPUS LOVE

>>41322078
I-IT DOESN'T COUNT

>>41322073
I like Raft but I feel like they'd get bored re-playing it. Rust or Vallheim would be cool. I'd be surprised if we don't get Project Zomboid with everyone on the same server eventually

>>41322093
>>41322129
Oops, wrong replyyyy

>>41322110
Literally every member of Tempus has carried except Nowa, but his time will come, I trust.

>>41320657
Amen

machi in a forklift reminds me of that tractor goth

>>41322012
I can't see shit, what was edited?

have any tempus boys said anything about a p3 or p4 playthrough?

>>41322078
b-but vesper bad

>>41322008
MAGNI LOVE

>>41322067
>/#/

>>41322073
vesper will play with full tempus in long-form

>>41322012
WHERE'S WATAMELON

>Machi is closer o forklift certification than you

>>41322182

Valheim would be good because it has difference things for all kinds of austim.


gathering austim
building austim
adventure austim
lore austim

>>41322183
>Japanese train with a red shota in it
>"Strawberries go great.... with cream...."
Seems like nothing is wrong here

>>41322008
I like all the Tempus boy to some degree or another but Magni in particular is an absolute treasure and I HATE that he streams too late for me and my Euro timezone.

>>41322078
didn't altare mention a duet he bailed on? seems like shit was just rough around november and december. I hope the new boys can fill spots

>>41322254
doesn't count if he's half forklift

>>41322008
remember your roots /MANS/...

CLOWN LOVES US

CLOWN ON THE TELLY

this game seems like one of the better optimized chillas games.

>>41322008
Forgot to add:

>effectively guilt-tripped into never graduating because magmites got tattoos about him and he doesn't want his fans to undergo skin surgery

>>41322276
Altare is too pussy to sing at all because he's whipped by his mom, I wonder if he's even doing his singing reps still

>>41322087
He stalled on the cicada part so he did it in 2 streams I believe

>>41322012
Wtf, why would you edit out the 9th member of Tempus, Watamelon

Wow, this game is garbage.

>>41322267
A great mind thinks alike to itself!
Right?

>>41322276
wasnt that the duet axel axed?

CRUSTY THE BETTEL

>>41322343
he said that magni didn't want to do it

https://twitter.com/_amachii/status/1616189817770938388?cxt=HHwWqMC4nfGE7u0sAAAA

You want to bully her

>>41322378
All Chilla's Art games are garbage

Imagine if he's just not gonna show up today and not say anything at all. And never comment on it later on
Wonder what the community reaction would be lol

more french racism...

I love this silly image! haha!

>>41322404
Any cover doko? Singing rival to Axel?

AAAAHHH FLAYON YOU ARE BURNING!!!

clown acknowledges the stolen bit

NO SE MUEVE

>>41322430
Who?

>>41322387
nah it was that one rape bait christmas song

>BETTEL STOLE MAGNI'S BIT AGAIN
MY GOD
>I wanna put you in a jar and stick-
stream is already going good

>>41322449
SHUT UP OMEGA

>>41322378
That's Chilla's Art for you
I don't know why people keep playing them

Hey, that funny drunk old man (literally me) is on TV.

>>41322438
R

>>41322483
Wow you're kinda cute :)

>Festival
Didn't know flayon was a fan of matuli

>>41322477
in the case of the holopro talents its because they have perms for them

Woah, two Vespers!

Don't fucking watch Vesper you retards don't validate his ego

Pretty decent Count.

FESTIVAL MENTION

>>41322353
kek

>>41322483

I'm at this point I don't doubt the "spending time with my parents during New Years, I'm being forced" was a lie too, because he was too anxious to come up with anything to celebrate together with the Vesties and didn't want to bother either

>>41322515
Why would I miss a stream from my oshi?

Watching vesper because it makes incels cry

>1 hour 4 minutes

>>41322515
im giving him one last chance im expecting the, "im stressed and tired, also i have a lot of work to do" routine

>>41322313
AND I LOVE CLOWN

FLAY THAT VOICE AAAA

>>41322450
just hallucinate that its moving like me anon

Bettels so cute bros

HE'S BURNING OUT AIIIEEEEEEEEE

>>41322438
Haha, I can't stop laughing
How did you find something this crazy?
Please answer my question above
I'd like to print it and make copies

Wow Vesper's numbers are tanking. Guess a lot of Vespie's ARE mad. Oh well. More ves for me

>>41322588
i fully believe that it's his real voice...

>>41322599
Hey really is, and he thinks we're cute for calling him girl names.

>still denies peppers are fruits

Wait, he's overlapping?

>>41322624
>/#/

>>41322575
based. also nowa love

>>41322438
A

>>41322655
i love the little buntare

>>41322655
Vesper liked that on Twitter, he wants to rape Bettel

>>41322515
I'm watching Bettel

CUTE BETSY IS CUTE

>>41322438
P

>"oops I am streaming over 1 hour omega?"
>*tehepero*
>"Would be a shame if I streamed 20 minuets more"

>>41322655
now I want a female betsy, but I feel like that would be way more menhera than cute

CHIPS ON STREAM

HE'S GOT PICTURES
YOOOOOO

>>41322688
Vesper is such a disgusting numberfag. The only people he willingly approaches are the "number" people (Bettel is the most popular in his gen)

He is never going to make it to the past SCs

>>41322719
would be annoying af

>>41322688
We all do, that old man better not try to skip the queue.

bettel love!

why are these faggots overlapping Vesper

Lemon Sour Squad where you at?

hopelly we get less dramafags and catalogniggers today

Ok don't call me a tourist, I'm legitimately just catching up. Did Vesper like... never talk to the new guys at all or is anxiety THAT bad without meds?

Where is the retard that said Vesper wouldn't even show pictures because he is lazy?

>>41322719
that's like Noel

>>41322765
:)

Bettel's SC readings are fun too.

>>41322755
AIEEEE

>>41322575
Why would (you) watching Gramps make me cry?

t.incel

>>41322655
In my head, Betsy Grayson is the fuckup lost sister of Dick Grayson that joined the Joker as his new most incompetent henchwoman.

oh wow he really does do that hand rubbing thing at the start of a stream.

BASED FLAYON

>stream has a topic
>no way he can turn this in sc reading
i beleeb

LET ME FEEL THE POWERRRRRRRRR

you can see vespers reflection in the chip bag

>>41322755
I'm scared.

>>41322773
lurk 10 years before posting

>Flayon is going to stream until he finishes the game

>>41322773
That would be the power of no meds

>>41322755
Damn bro u ok?

Based Brat Flayon exposes bullshit company buffoonery

>>41322773
It's called "being a pathological liar"

FLAYON YOU MAD BOT

>>41322755
Based, thanks for the food

Did he forget how to start streams? What the fuck is this instant "well uhhh I got 5 things from the store uhhh I won't eat them"
Is this how you conduct a stream?

Why did Flayon sound like the Oblivion guards for a second

>>41322773
He talked to Shinri and sent him hot sauce, and gave Bettel bad tech advice. Hasn't talked to the other two much at all

>>41322761
They're hoping for rape correction

>>41322893
Retard

Clown isn't for hurting, he's for kisses and cuddles!
Flayon deserves pain however

>>41322895
He was VAing a train guard, seems like he did a good job

>says sour on the package
>it's not sour
This should be a crime

>>41322923
Yeah the pain of me removing his boyhymen

>>41322745
Ogey

>>41322893
You are just finding anything to be mad at

>>41320984
I was so caught up with other streams that I almost didn't notice Noir streaming. Now I want to try some Japanese snacks too...

>>41322773
I'll bite.
I have a friend who is exactly like Vesper, as in extremely socially awkward, paranoid, can't stand being with his family. Those kinds of people can legit break down (silently) if put in stressful social situation. So yes, while I agree that his 'my social battery is discharged' phrase is complete BS, I kinda believe him.

>>41322814
but sisters told me he wouldn't improve his content

>>41322515
I'm not a woman I don't care

Vesper just said nigger on stream

>>41322883
anon its a bit, he told t5 members that he was going to do the Gura strat for a bit

>he lightly got bonked during the fallguys last stream

>>41322931
Meta-sour, they sour your mood while skipping over your taste buds

Management bonking them for superchat begging is based.

>>41322931
Sours are rarely sour, anon

>>41322976
He told t6 he was lying to t5

>>41322980
I guess SC baiting isn't fine, not even as a joke

>clown is a catfag

>>41323002
he told t7 that t6 are niggers

Dez caused Bettel’s first bonk kek

>>41322976
Fellow T5 vesties stop leaking menshi stuff.

>he doesn't get it
it's lemon pepper, it goes well with lemon sour
it's not sour

>>41322997
this is some bullshit

this man is fuckin snackin

Magni trying to get my clown out of a job
MAGNI HATE

>>41323013
tfw Mag might have got a harder bonk for revealing the "Tummy hort" meta

Let's speculate Vesper's off-med, alcohol induced interactions with his kohais on the first tempus collab
>Doxx's Bettel live
>Flirts and discord posts at Flayon until baiting fucking brat into vc sex call
>COMO ESTA HAKKA. JAJAJAJ SE MUEVE
>"What's wrong *slurp* Shinri *slurp* those hot sauces really *slurp* kicked your spicy *slurp* taint *slurp* huh?

pizza pringles are nice
it's tangy cheese

>>41323014
based ogatito

>>41323051
Magni is the protagonist in the Tampus Dating sim tho?

>>41323061
KEK

>>41322980
>>41322996
>>41323013
Jesus this should be a standard rule for all live streamers.

Former Vesper supporter here, it's hilarious watching him crash and burn. But in all seriousness, we can't let him get the pizza chips.

>>41322773
One of my friends had a panic attack in regards to her mom being unsanitary and throwing garbage at her while I'm a discord call, I thought she was being bratty until I got uncomfortable thinking "damn, this shit isn't a joke and is kind of distressing."

>he didnt tweet out the stream
vesties...

Pizza flavoured Pringles taste horrible

Haatsoon Miku

>>41323036
HOW can Lemon, be a lemon and not be sour? That's like saying a woman without a pussy, it's still a woman.

HE'S EATING DRIED FISH
I REPEAT
HE'S EATING DRIED FISH

THE FUNNY KISS

>>41322893
yes

>cod sheets
the Japanese are animals

>>41323118
b-but my numberfag

>>41323118
Vesper hates Vesper...

>>41323118
>men is afraid of twitter
>seeing all those tweets drains his social battery
please undastand

Japan's cheese products are absolutely disgusting
they have terrible cheese taste

>>41323061
I belieb

Kek, is dry fish a foreign concept for 'mericans? Slavs eat it with beer all the time

>>41323060
Yeah I think the bonk was more for messing up the girls' strats for getting easy supas than an actual problem with the joke itself

>>41323118
>https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en/status/1616194547176079362
Great, even baits are dropping in quality

>>41323118
How do you go through life being such a stupid motherfucker

can people really get epilepsy from just that part?

i remember altare playing this game and it was so shit then and its still shit now ...machi why...

>>41323118
He did.
https://twitter.com/noirvesper_en/status/1616194547176079362

>>41323154
It isn't too far a stretch from Sushi.
Oh wait, it is stretched

>>41322755
The Fujos scare me, bros

>HBD SC reading
Vesper..

>>41323118
i literally am in the stream because i checked twitter
lost track of time

>>41323167
#Ameway

The bait is going meta!

I need Flayon to activate the RTX on his model

>>41323061
>xenos need to be deported

>>41323210
It's not just reading. I think that fucking retard recorded BD beggars from yesterday and congratulated them today.

what is "plain cheese"

chat trying to bait bettel into saying cheesed to meet you

>>41322997
>says sour in the name
>not sour
This should be a crime

>>41323259
swiss, if we're talking jap

>>41323200
Isn't that a yume?

>>41323259
+18 people

he knows about what you said fake vesties

Vesper destroyed the alcoholic rrats just now

AAAAAAH OMEGA GOT TO FLAYON!

SUSAN

my god, management pulled the plug!

>They killed Flayon

Flayon.... no

>>41323292
they don't know the difference

>>41323259
He means cheddar. That's the plainest cheese in America.

AIIEEEEE OMEGA

Flay has fallen into deep sleep on a train before
Flay...you gotta be safe....

I love this clown so much

>>41323271
this guy gets it

>Breaking up an akasupa into 10 $10 SCs to monopolize your oshi's attention
Based or cringe?

>>41323292
That's a yaoi hand if I ever saw one

>>41323259
Milk

>>41322755
based. amputee chads win again

Is Flay really still going?

>he finished 60% of his work yesterday
dyrbi

>WE hate Vesper now
Since I'm literally him that also means you hate me, and are you really gonna do a nigga like that?

He came back, just like jesus

>>41323344
im not gay, but hes cute

Flayon no, don't sleep on the train!
It will be like that doujin where a bunch of ojisans starts cutting and mangling a cute girl while they rape her!

>>41323259
Government cheese

>>41322755
i respect that yumes are into the same depraved shit as me
although obviously genders reversed for me

i hope flay plays p3

>>41323375
Yes, fuck you anon

>>41322755
that's leader's hand

>>41323369
Yeah

flayon chikan ToT

>>41323375
yes chumpass. tell your oshi to get off her ass and stream.

>>41323344
I'm going to kiss this cute stupid clown

med rare chads can't stop winning

>>41323369
chat said it's a short game so he kept playing

>>41323375
Where's the little Axel in that picture, anon?

someone sent an SC asking if he was excited for the anniversary collab kek

>>41323394
There's a doujin where a shota gets sissified in a train, pretty hot

This vampire

Axel... youre always the dog

>>41323356
Cringe especially because they deduct taxes from each one resulting in giving your oshi less