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EN tally was a mistake.
>>41306375ethyria and aftermath were a mistake
Gura wouldn't have allowed Niji to win, just saying.
What did we we learn last thread?
/#/ was a mistake
>>41305657Nijifans, please answer this.
>>41305657IDK I watch Pomu and IRyS and they're really nothing alike. Enjoy both of them in their own way. Enna gets compared because they're both hired primarily to be singers, even someone who doesn't watch them can figure out that comparison. Rosemi has the same weird Japanese ESL-isms despite being a native EN speaker, same as IRyS. I've never seen anyone compare Finana and IRyS. Meloco is because she's Japanese, that's literally all. I don't really know anything about Kotaka but she's Japanese so probably that. Elira is also ethnically half-Japanese. It's a very lazy "they're Japanese" comparison in most of these cases. Enna is really the only "good" comparison, even though their styles are wildly different, they're both fundamentally vsingers/former utaite.
I just got out of a 3 hour conversation on tinder where she finally shows me her picture and she was cute as fuck at 29 but sooner or later I have to tell her that I'm 5 years younger than her fuck.I blame mio, all the holohags and you all for posting lewds of hags for me to think old girls was okay
I am curious about ENfags: why do they hate watching hardworking girls (Bae, Kiara) while keep watching failures who seldom streams? Is it because cuckoldry a fetish of ENfags?
>>41306453If you looked up 'Perfect Graph' in a dictionary, you'd see King's graph.
Clutch 10k for gozaru
>>41306476sister, please, if you are gaslighting swapping narratives at least put out something coherent
https://twitter.com/kanauru/status/1616042915486130178>Miko and Suisei animation>put Roberu dancing next to Miko because ???lol
>>41306472NTA but Finally was compared with her during during the Trap sagaAlso they say Finana has better clips than her
>>41306518she started after midnight so she had all day
>>41306132 says you, I like my cute Ame.
>>41306476bae is homolovers and kiara is annoying, they need to fix it first
>>41306375Always has been
>>41306553kys 4k gura poster
>>41306570Ofcourse, the clip fags watch Finana
>>41306597Just because you are losing
Kronii was a mistake.Mumei was a mistake.Ame was a mistake.
>>41306624Niji En blew the lead to Holo En.Most of them from Niji can't even make the tally because of how shit they are
>>41306593>kiara is annoyingFor you.
>>41306453something something EN has failed something something death spiral something something just shutter the branch
>>41306570Oh that's because IRyS once said trap on one of her streams. In the crossdresser meaning, not like an animal trap. I guess that makes IRyS anti-woke and blackpilled or whatever rather than just slightly out of touch with western cultural norms since she lives in Japan. That's literally it.
>>41306560homobeggar moment
>>41306667Don't forget IRyS and Fauna.
>>41306476Is a personality issue I watch a lot of Kaela and she works hard, I'm not going to force myself to watch someone I don't like because of false sense of "she deserves it"
jwu what happened with king?
>>41306769Went back to being the king of niji first army (sub 15k)
>>41306769Heart attack
>>41306476Because I don't find a reason to watch them.The only EN girls I watch are gura, ina and mumei. Fauna and irys might get decent numbers but I don't find them Interesting personally.It's all just preference.
>>41306769botting
I feel a lil bad for the new girls, knowing that they'd be 2k subs under in a week. No way is this sustainable? Fuck you anycolor, they're just tricking people in to work for them for 2 years then after they leave, what the fuck do they have after that's them?
>>41306593bae can't love a homo that's already taken.
Subs update. Sophia (the last girl) is the biggest winner from the debut (for now).
https://youtu.be/fg0W8ivDlGs?t=159>Niji JP has 3 half-bongs>Niji EN's 2 most popular members are both bongsI can't believe we were focused on the chink meme this whole time when the true power behind the Nijisanji menace was obvious...
>>41307113Akari...
>>41306282>>41306296Salome 2.0This one will never disappoint me with unrealistic numbers.
>>41306931anon, stop being so dramatic, the other girls hit 2k often but they are still sub 5k
>>41307113didn't they had like 60k debuts?
>>41306476Kiara is the filter queen and Bae is the debuff princess.
>>41307176Isn't 2k better than half of Nijigirls?
>>41307183Youtube seems to have gone from unsubbing people that was really noticeable in the past to just not counting subs from some people for whatever reason.
>>41307113Her voice is sex. Not sure why people like the Kuudere more than the first girl.
>>41307183Yes
>>41307113Akari please follow sisters....
>>41307113>Debut>Only 4.9k above Roco that still didn't debutedKoyori lite...
>Youtube seems to have gone from unsubbing people that was really noticeable in the past to just not counting subs from some people for whatever reason.this rrat again...
>>41307113Sub culls hit these girls insanely hard
Just let it end. Why is anycolor like this.
>>41307172Doubt we will get another Salome this soon
>>41307176>Sub 5kI'm generous enough to give them below 3k since ranun and volt is stuck there
>>41307128Flips are the strongest in NijiEN. Mysta and Hex get the best CCV and SCs respectively. Not sure why Holo doesn't dip into the market
So, um, niji debuts like 13 members within 2 months...
>>41307467EN Gamers soon!
>>41307113What's with that Nozomi? She jumps way higher than Roco, even higher that the runts from today's debut
>>41307467are you counting xsoleil or is another wave coming
>>41307512She debuted today
>>41307512roco hasn't debuted yet
>>41307113hopefully Miko2 will not get culled in half again after debut
>>41307444Luca is a flip too.
>>41306476I'm a unityfag and watch all the HoloENs, though I need to make choices on overlaps obviously. These morning NA times are too difficult to catch though. Don't mind Kiara and Bae at all otherwise.
>>41307512She kayfabed really hard during her debut.
The new minecraft arc is proving to be quite boring.
gozaru nearing 13k, how did she do it?by the way, I haven't seen anything spectacular from her minecraft streams yet, I thought her PL was crazy with minecraft?
>>41307620no, luca is an O C, why do you think people keep pairing him with bae and axel?
>>41306375ENsharts were a mistake.
>>41306678Niji wins crip if they keep the events rolling, otherwise not so much outside of random Mysta clickbait. Luckily for them they have enough people that events are happening pretty frequently now.
>>41307565>>41307577Literally the only name I can remember is Sophie so I just relied on the row color
>>41306453Dino Gura was sold as DIY kit
>>41306375EN was a mistake
>>41307785The blue is for VTA, sorry if it's confusing.
>>41307686Thats barely Gura numbers
I love Pekora first and foremost.I love holoJP second.I love Fauna and Mumei third.I like Gura, Ina and IRyS fourth.I tolerate Kiara fifth.I dislike Bae and Ame sixth.I hate Mori and Kronii seventh.
>>41306475So like, where's the bad part there?You scared of retarded kids?
The gangbang sexparty Kiara had to go to for investors seems to have gone well. Hopefully she gets more support from this.https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1616053886514782208
>>41307667Newfag, minecraft is always boring, aka comfy zatsudan stream
>>41307667Needs more interactions, hijinks, and sabotage.
>>41307870I think you should suck my dick eighth
https://youtu.be/3RxlzJWWzdY10m soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2cFXO3p_SUA moom approaches
So are we finally getting to see suisei's roommate reveal in the first take?
>>41307870AVE IMPERATRIX PEKORA
>>41307947She's one of the good holoENs!
>>41307877She went dancing with Matsuri, Nene and Aki. Someone's 3D live/birthday I guess?
>>41307961Yeah, she's gonna wear kigu of herself
>>41307961no
>>41307947Pretty late for the western audience, but it might work out to get her some JP tourist.
>>41307961Bet it's gonna be something like 3:12.Or imagine if it's herself hidden from view holding a tablet with the first take recording.
>>41307870ah yes the "jpchad" who has an in-depth tierlist of all the en girls, seems legit
Reminder that hololive's fanbase is mostly adult men with a job
>>41306553pls come back soon fart shart.
>>41307995Her and Bae seem to have been doing quite of bit of recording and dance stuffs
>>41307961Yes
>>41308027Her last JP song karaoke around the same time
>>41308027Eh, Mumei built herself on random karaoke in the middle of the night.
>>41308042Highly doubt it. I think it will be just like Sora's "first take". She will use her 3D model.
>>41307961
>>41308137I mean. Suisei holding a tablet where it's the 3D model doing the first take.
>>41307947>1PM JSTnah people still working
What's the next big stream?
>>41308073Hololive JP yes, ID and EN are zoomers
>>41308166Inb4 they use actual robot this time
>>41308231Or worse, a Suisei kigu.
>>41308123was this the one just after holofes and subsequent council 3d announcement? i can see JOP checking out how the new girls sings once.
>>41308166i hate japs
>>41307947Only chance for EN Holos to get a decent number today, everyone else is either doing members, debuff, or is a homo (if you want to count them).
>>41308166https://streamable.com/dfeibxUse the latest one
>>41308267>worse
>>41308277EN holos don't get decent numbers if they're not called Gura.
>>41308277mori peaked at 7k which is good enough for her
>>41307947If this doesn't break 10k I'm dropping her. Can't have an oshi who's a failure.
>>41308231Why not suisei’s bilibili 3d model?
>>41308320Eh, kigus unnerve me.Though imagine if it was the actual Suisei inside the kigu.
>>41308276That intro was based though.
>>41308384honestly it's not bad for a sponsored stream. Thought it'd be lower. I don't generally watch persona streams even though I like the games myself. They just aren't fun for me for whatever reason.
1k DORYAAAAAAAAAA
>>41307870If you were so much of a nousagis you wouldn't have stolen an image from this very thread, and would have taken it from Twitter or a fanart website instead. Nice try though, ENshart.
>>41307697his skin is brown so i suppose you think he's an abbo?
Why is there no JP shilling Finana 3D
>>41308532>shilling literal whoreHAHAnoEducate yourself
>>41308532She's going to join the BAN team with lewdest 3D done on youtube
>>41308493That's a dumb argument and you should feel dumb for making it
it could be called a hololive error. I know the way out, I'll leave on my own.
https://youtu.be/VARmVMka0U8Oh no no no ishowspeed bros
>>41308532Who?
>>41308443tempoop....
>>41308532What time
>>41308620Ogeyyyy
>>41308493Retarded ESL faggot spotted, your shitposting is invalid.
BATTLE OF GIANTS
So let me get this straight, now the homo sisters have decided that they hate the homo who gets the least miserable numbers? Why is this failed experiment still running?
So FE:Engage is releasing across the world, has any of the Holos said anything about playing it? Kinda interested to see the numbers it gets.
ATLUS left a LMAO on Mori's chat
>>41308878So?
>>41308807Pekora will play an old JRPG this weekend so she won't touch that gameat all.
>>41308878>watching Mori
>>41308802faggots are very dramatic but they'll forget about it soon enough
>>41308807Chiara. Numbers will be miserable.
>>41308802
>>41308878Are they Kaela fans too?
>>41308902who's watching Mori? i said chat
>>41308384She Z'd to 7K, she peaked at 6K5
imagine if Gura's return stream overlaps a certain 3D debut for maximum shitposting
>>41307329They always did both. What are you even talking about?
>>41306453We witness another history in king graph
>>41308920Kaela is lemao
>>41308802what
>>41308802Yagoo's passion project pruisu understandu
>>41308807Kiara, maybe Bae.Kronii hasn’t mentioned it but will probably play it.
>>41308532she doesn't speak japanese
>>41308899>Pekora will play an old JRPG this weekendwell there goes her monthly gold record chances
Everyone in holoEn are kinda reclining
>>41308971the sisters are mad at vesper for missing the full tempus collab
Holy shit someone please save bae
>>41308620>Not going through your oshi's art hastagNah you got outed
>>41309089Kronii is inclining tho
>>41309100Unpacking isn't even a debuff game, I legit don't understand
>>41308899Pokemon Red?
>>41309089Not Ina
>>41308802Will this "hate" even affect him in numbers?
>>41306472Nta>Enna gets compared because they're both hired primarily to be singersDid niji really hired enna for singing, or people just compare her to irys because she said something like "i love to be a vsinger"? Jstr4
>>41309144>Why is a loud, obnoxious and unfunny zoomer who collabs with males and actively tries to destroy the thing she signed up for not popular, wtf???
Unironically what can HoloEN do to incline again?Hard mode: no EN3 and no Homoshit
>>41306476BAE is literally sleeping on her stream today...
why did you do it saplings. you let her get beaten by homos.
>>41308119Cute boy.
>>41309144EN overlap hell
>>41309215remove homos, no more male collabs and debut EN3
>>41309239Fauna should get another hairstyle
>>41309100>>41309144you need to let some of the brats calm down after the last male collab. They're like pomudachis, they'll come back.
>>41309144But it is? It's basically turns stream into zatsu.
PSG gold even with region block
>>41309154>>41309066How much did she get on Shadow of the colossus or The Last Guardian? She will most likely play the better game from the same studio.
>>41309144Her voice is really bad
Atleast Mysta beat Kronii and Fauna
>>41309089>kinda
>>41309215Proper 3D debutsYour fucking hard mode is almost "without doing anything"
>>41309215have kronii admit she is genderfluid
>>41309327It's at worse neutral, at best a slight buff
Why is Mori playing P3P and not the way superior FES
>Nice>Nice to meet you
HoloEN January 2023 ranking>Gura - dead>Ina - return buff>IRyS - new outfit buff, but now reclined back to 1.0 numbers>Fauna - got some numbers from offcollab, reclined after Ina's comeback>Mumei - stable, slight incline from last month, many collabs in her channel>Kronii - inclined because she streamed late and caught every funnel>Ame - barely stream because JP arc>Kiara - some JP offcollab>Mori - Mori>Bae - jesas
>>41309089Not IRyS or Ina. Or Kiara for that matter, she's been a shitter for awhile.
>>41309377>Atleast Mysta beat KroniiSister?
breaking news: tallyanon found dead in the elf forest in a suspected suicide with 3 arrow shots to the back of the head
>>41309434>Leech on top
>>41309405>proper 3D debutsyeah that's going to have a real lasting impact on their numbers
>>41309215have a stable rotation of free days for a reliable pipelinekiara>(ina/fauna)>(gura/bae/mumei/ame)>(irys/kronii/mori)would prefer to move bae and ame a little later to have better PST coverage but it is what it is, work with ID girls to have more collab around EST primetime (sorry not sorry kiara) to keep the fanbase hot and the girls ready to punce on a new game/trend and capitalize on it.
>>41309405Because it's the obvious answer, I want to know if you guys think the current girls can figure out a way to revitalize interest in EN themselves.
>>41309476Look?>>41309448
Realistically any NA company that can do mocap right without spending billions of USD like Hollywood? I have seen some decent studio from Japan but all the stuff I've seen from the west are from Hollywood.
>>41309448nice buff
>>41309215Streaming buff games might be a good start.
>>41309170If anything he'll probably get a drama buff for a stream or two
>>41309100>Turning in>She mumbles something and making noise.>Go back to Iroha for soft voice zatsuSorry she is just boring as hell and she is not cute at all.
>>41306476I not parasocial enough to care about your faggot cuckold bickering, bae and kiara the lowest priority because i found other hologirl like ina/mumei/irys/fauna more suitable (im not falseflag cuz i like comfy stream) and from ID more entertaining because they play variety game like DGR. if they EN not stream, i watch ID.
>>41309170No because the vast majority of the fanbase will take any half-assed reason at face value.
>>41309501i mean this may sound out there and kinda strange, but I think if they just stream at set hours with schedules people can look forward to, they'll incline.
>>41309434Wait I don't remember Kanata being this strong in terms of ccv.
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>61,597: Ishigami Nozomi (Nijisanji)>59,935: Sophia Valentine (Nijisanji)>58,661: Koshimizu Toru (Nijisanji)>49,725: Igarashi Rika (Nijisanji)>43,919: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>40,911: Pekora (Hololive)>34,994: Miko (Hololive)>20,845: Subaru (Hololive)>20,064: Chihiro (Nijisanji)>19,856: Subaru (Hololive)>16,811: Koyori (Hololive)>15,790: Fubuki (Hololive)>15,750: Yashiro (Nijisanji)>15,057: Towa (Hololive)>14,436: Botan (Hololive)>13,433: Kanata (Hololive)>12,390: Shibuya Hal (Neo-Porte)>12,347: Lauren (Nijisanji)>12,204: Mumei (Hololive)>11,879: Hayato (Nijisanji)>11,873: Furen (Nijisanji)>11,750: Koyori (Hololive)>11,244: Chloe (Hololive)Debut day for Nijis predictably taking the top 4 positions.
>>41309215Rebuild the brand. Have the girls have fun with each other again. Recreate that slice of life feeling. It's a tall order since there's probably a lot of tension and awkwardness behind the scenes.Stream consistently to build personal brand. Do fun collabs highlighting interpersonal relationships to build group brand.Chain buff events together to keep the eyes of the fanbase on you to maximize the chance of turning them into regular viewers.
>>41309501They would need to start work hard and in some cases even change their behaviour.I don't see it happening.
>>41309501Start a minecraft arc. Not some half-assed shit, something that's going to take weeks of streams, where everyone can bounce off each other, and make it so people WANT to tune in to catch up on what will happen next. Problem is, the EN girls are a bunch of social misfits who can't coordinate for shit, and the one who can is in a timezone that most of the girls won't go out of their way to go into.
>>41309626what?
>>41309626*if en doesn't stream, i watch Id
>>41309626Of course it is an indog barking up towards an hour old post.
>>41309501The box collapsed like soggy cardboard because they gave up on streaming consistently over the past yearIts not rocket science - you dont fuckin need EN3 or 3D lives JUST STREAM
King?!
>>41309679>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 20238) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 20239) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon11) Pekora (Hololive) - 43,113 - Birthday countdown12) Pekora (Hololive) - 142,282 - 3D birthday live13) Pekora (Hololive) - 33,367 - Minecraft RTA14) Pekora (Hololive) - 78,227* - Holomen gift opening15) Pekora (Hololive) - 60,445 - Pekkorone Ao Oni16) Pekora (Hololive) - 38,305 - Daimakaimura endurance17) Koyori (Hololive) - 65,592 - Momotetsu w/Pekora, Subaru & Botan18) Kuzuha (Nijisanji) - 42,343 - Apex CR cup scrims19) Nozomi (Nijisanji) - 61,597 - Debut stream>PER COMPANY15x: Hololive3x: Nijisanji1x: Indie>PER STREAMER9x: Pekora2x: Towa1x: Hololive, Koyori, Kuzuha, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Nozomi, Subaru, Watame
>>41309679Aight, predict first stream number
>>41309681>Do fun collabs highlighting interpersonal relationships to build group brandThat was the entire ORK offcollab arc, you couldn't do it MORE than that, 3 girls, living it up together in an offcollab on top of that...And it got mediocre numbers.
>>41309405CouncilRyS MAYBE but Myth's advantage in that is long spentI expect only Gura and Ina to beat Moona's showcase.
>>41309212>>Why is a loud, obnoxious and unfunny >Zoomer who OFF COLLABS with males and actively tries to destroy the thing she signed up for not popular, wtf???FTFY.
>>41308807Isn't that game just a proper FEH? Kronii should be all over that.
>>41309695Sry eslPriorityIrys>kaela>ina>mumei>fauna>ID, filtering bae because of loud peaking scream, kiara because of timezone.
>>41309679
>>41309144I dunno about that, at least for EN.
>>41309786And this clearly show you're a newfag. Ina was always #2 in myth in terms of CCV, but in terms of event ceiling, she's #4. Ina 3D debut will only beat Kiara's.
>>41309772>And it got mediocre numbers.it didn't help that the first was a surprise one 6AM New York time / 3AM California time adn then the second one was ALSO A SURPRISE A FUCKING HOUR EARLIER to make sure people that would wake up early enough for the first would miss the second too
>>41309679Go King Goooo! Show Pekora who's the true boss of this thread!
>>41309679Gura could have beat them, thanks for nothing Nousagis
>>41309848Mori got 6K with it.
How the the new niji girls holding up?
>>41309786Ina has one of the lowest ceilings in Myth. Check their outfits. Ceilings have always gone Gura>Mori>Ame>Ina>Kiara
>>41309772the JP offcollab arc could barely be considered an arc at all it came and went so weakly it might as well have been a dream
>>41306711IRyS is also very much into anime and she used it to describe fucking Astolfo. Also never apologised which makes her automatically 10 times better than some woke niji bitch like Finana or Enna.
Thanks for funneling Bae to 3k Mori
Ok after reading that Kiara is going to play Engage (and I am sure she will not drop the game regardless of the numbers) and Kaela focusing on the new Minecraft server, I am going to bet my balls that Kaela is going to finally overcome the Kiara line.
>>41309679Pekokeks seething
>>41309883Normal apex graph
>>41309990Kaela has already been stronger than Kiara for a while. This is nothing new
>>41309634Those are just called normal people. They just watch to chill out and kill some time with something fun. No one really cares that much outside a few hardcore fans and schizos.
>>41309990If she keeps having collabs with jp it won't be so bad.
kek, Fauna getting clipped by nips for being poor>ファウナが日本人の「財布」を見て驚いたことhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7UgLDN7VCkMust be hard for Fauna, some of the nip girls really really splurge on luxury goods because they realize they're not poor anymore.
>>41310119not really
I think we should go back too
>>41310153DELET THIS! DELET THIS! DELET THIS! DELET THIS!
Gozaru snagging free incline from empty timeslot
>>41310153j-jesas
>>41310119Anon, Kaela is a sub 3K average chuuba.
>>41310154Yes she has. Kaela was able to break 10k in her MC arc. When's the last time Kiara ever broke 10k in a solo game stream?
>>41310153They haven’t even been around for a month and are already in 1k shitter hell?
>>41310153a-at least they are bigger than the JP Stars h-hahah-huge success!
>>41310153>tempus is an outstanding success relative to holost- WHAT
>>41310200Kaela streams an inordinate amount and plays all sorts of games. She doesn't just spam buff shit handcams like Kiara. I always knew she was stronger, but now that Kiara has exhausted all her buff material (JP collabs and handcams), Kaela's true power level will be revealed
>>41310153>CR Cupat least provide context unicorn
>>41310153time to ONLY compare them to Uproar from now on
>>41310206When was the last time Kaela did?
>>41310206I am talking about the Kiara line referenced in the Median/average monthly charts that is posted here.
EN tally anon tucked his tail and ran away?
>>41310141fauna does more on sc than 80% of jp kek
>>41310153They still mog Uyu and Aruran you chud
>>413102767 months ago
EVEN PEKORA KNEELS TO KOYORI!>WHY DON'T YOU, ANONS!?!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMHgGuS3dNo
>>41310206nta but >>41310200for every good MC stream kaela has she can go as low as 1k. kiara still more consistent
>>41310288After that shameful bullshit he tried to pull, he damn well should.
>>41310303Eigo Jouzu!
>>41310141Her SC baiting is really shameless lately
>>41310308what an achievement! I kneel!
>>41309772I know it's out of the girls control partially, but I'm sorry off collabs where they act like paranoid schizos and don't hype up anything are not going to get numbers. You need to actually work to make something into an exciting event for people.Also by the time they finally adjusted their schedules for US timezones they had already been in japan for like a week
>>41310141Tactless milking
>>41310308>comparing to starsJPThat is how you know they are low on the numbers.
>>41310331That's because Kaela streams more than 4x the amount Kiara does. I guarantee you if Kiara streamed the same hours she'd also get those low numbers. She's stronger overall despite having a lower CCV because of her hours
>>41310263I hope you are just trolling but handcam streams was never a buff for Kiara last year and she does like 2-3 such streams a month.
>>41308951>imagine>ifFinally ENfags are hallucinating their numbers in imaginary scenarios just like nijikeks.
Looks like IM is getting canceled by twitter troons for wanting to play that Hogwarts game.
>>41308807Some 3view I follow is playing it. She's getting like 50% more than her usual numbers, so I think it'll get the novelty buff.
>>41310454>Handcam streams aren't a buffCome on, you don't have to be so retarded. Obviously it has diminishing returns but handcams are always a buff over a regular non-buff gaming stream. This is just cope
>14k gozaruHOLOMINECRAFT IS EVIL
>>41310507Sleep with the dogs, get the fleas.
>>41310445people not understanding averages in numberfag general...
>>41310326She wasn't that far in hours streamed two years ago when she used to do long playthroughs...
>>41310141>Shittalking her own country in order to suck Japan's dickWhore
>>41310141I saw that... isn't uh... isn't Fauna from a wealthy family?
>>41305510I'm still baffled that they hired Sana when she probably was pretty clear how she doesn't want to be an art streamer because art is her job and whatnot, two students (similar issues to haato) and menhera voice-actor with no intention to VA as a hololive member etc. it's like they didn't really care about expanding the EN market. Perhaps they hoped EOPs will accept EN Stars as de-facto hololive if they confuse them about branding enough, that didn't really work though.
>>41310507>vshojo>getting canceledlol, those fuckers will just find a way to deflect, they're too big to fall already
>>41310507based, fuck the twitter fags, everyone should play that game
>>41310531japs have no self-respect to watch such boring streams
Stop shitting on Council or I'm going to get really mad
>>41310153>not even 2k with the Tuna buffIt's over for Holostars...
>>41307444They already have Haachama.
>>41310618But enough about EN
>>41310585Idk but she has always been very frugal. I think she still uses a 2070 and is yet to upgrade her PC. Buying that KU100 and fancy rabbit meat for Snail are the few exceptions.
>>41310590It is funny that we openly shit on Council and their numbers but somehow think Fulgur was wrong at the same time.
>>41309092I mean isn't that a good thing? Based on the character he's built up he should've been more responsible than that
Now that's some niji EN level bullshit
>>41310585only poor people flex
>>41310694Fulgur is the EN Ibrahim. He's a prophet
>>41310706>still didn't pass the astel peakholy kek
REMINDER TO ALL SIDEBRANCH NIGGERSThe poster was Gura and she probably invented the /vt/sister meme >>12990018Mumei is Orcschizo, you are a newnigger if you deny it and yes she threw Kanauru under the busGlobalniggers are a bunch of hypocrites, they know what Mumei and Depressed Nousagi did but still, choose to discriminate against the not-a-cute-girl oneKiara is a number-obsessed, unethical, two-faced whore who has been harassing Gura for more than one and a half years over numbersBoth are known nijiniggers and as such you don't have to feel bad shitting on them, Kiara in particular is a workaholic but the fact that she is an evil whore who has no moral compass draws the permanent line that i will never cross, there's no "someday i will like Kiara" for meSana is a quitter who left so soon because she didn't get her wayAme hates Cover so much so that she was willing to be Kiara's bitch. Both Kiara and Ame are angsty subhumans with daddy issues hence they click with each other, also that "fucking bitch" had its buildup of private resentmentIna came to talk with Gura to vent her feelings at some point, "I will postpone creating mascot for IRyS" was not something she would announce in the holo discordthe only mystery left to solve is why does Kiara hate IRyS so much, because she believes she could actually have been the EN VSinger? or it's something elseanyway Mori and IRyS got their "Official Artist Channel on YouTube" before Kiara and this was something that could NOT be predicted therefore if you deny this you are either a KFPhaggot or a teaniggerno amount of katakoto japanese is gonna save the european whore from her lack of talent, the only thing she's good at is selling her body to sleazy japanese men (pic related) https://files.catbox.moe/78sk34.png,this bitch doesn't even know how to lie successfully. Cover should settle this once and for all and fire herTLDR: Teaniggers think they are moralfags but in reality they all are just accomplices to the european whore's scheme
>>41310694>we
BAE 3K DORRRRRRRYAAAAAAAAAA
>>41310694It's like when twitter tries to cancel Mori. Only WE get to shit on her
>>41310706He's still streaming? What about 1h rule?
>>41310754I preferred the Pope's pasta
>>41310694Fungus did nothing wrong and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>41310694Fulgar is a midget that thought he could look down on giants just cause he was standing on the shoulders of Luxiem. That's the problem.
>>41310507one day twitter will be a profitable platform for creators and the opinions of the userbase will have any weight on the real word, but this is not the day.if anything that shit is free promotion
>>41310754This is such a boring pasta
>>41310694Yeah, Fatgur didn't do as well as expected.
>>41310816It's the only reason why I think that the one with the pope was actually Gura. That was a stroke of creative genius.
>41310754Chumbies have finally lost their mind. Apparently all of them think the Gura tweets are from mane-chan.
>41310754ばゼド。
>>41310785go watch the red shota of yesterday, better yet archive dive, the faggot went over the other tempoop to get tempiss raid and shoot into 4view, than instantly raided the next tempoop that was already streaming for 5-10 minutes. not even nijiCN it's so blatant in the metric tampering side.
>>41310861I like how Holofags attempt to be apathetic about everything as if it doesn't phase them. But post about any of them reclining in this hugbox and you'll hear non-stop REEEEEEEEEing here for hours KEK
>>41309462Yeah IRyS is hardly streaming giving her a rarity buff.
>>41310900>bullshitThose aren't chumbuds, chumbuds know that the professional sounding shill shit is mane chan and everything else is just gura shit posting and cunny posting.
>>41310966Maybe that's the EN meta
So what now? Not only are male x female collabs doing better than all girls stuff, but pro male ENs are outperforming girls only ones in solo streams as well? Was all it took for Gura to fall ill for one side to crumble? The culture going forward feels like it's been decided. Only EN3 can change it now and even then you're basically hoping for a complete miracle.
Numbers Numbers Peko....Please come back...
>>41309144Overestimating Bae's numbers due to all of her recent streams being during Gura's timeslot.
>>41308807Kronii wanted to talk about it at the end of her stream yesterday, but she opted not to, because she didn't want to spoil it for others. She just nerded out over FEH instead.
>>41310694He was wrong because they couldn't realistically expect Council to do much better than they did and 90% of us never watched any of this faggots so shittalking people we actually care about makes him look like a small dog barking. Particularily ironic when you remember noctux underperformed in comparison with luxiem.
>>41310957Don't you have anything better to do in your life?Any hobby? playing games? watching anime? going outside? learning new things? You could also try to improve your financial situationIdk man, your life seems really sad
>>41310940The guy running HomoEN is trying to keep his job after over promising, can you blame him?
>>41310153>They are a success because they are doing better than StarsJ-ack!
>>41310585That's always been speculation based on some her interests and habitsThat said if you're from a family that's wealthy but not filthy rich you're more likely to be frugal. "Save a nickel spend a dime" mindset
>>41311028DELET DELET DELET DELET DELET
>>41310372I wish she'd milk me tactfully or not
>>41310940What's the point of that though? Cover Management would already know their real numbers. They are also not public like Niji so they don't have investors to please.
>>41311028The least retarded homonigger
>>41311069I'll post my finances if you post yours. Show Fidelity or Vanguard.Hint: I make more than you.
>>41309990Kiara is planning to play Engage, the new Ryza, and the Tales of Symphonia port.
>>41309089Ina is still doing well and Kronii is inclining thanks to less overlap.
>>41311028I distinctly remember that IRyS got at least 9k on her geoguessr stream, not 7k.
>>41311109EN management is using median as proof of demand for homos
>>41311109JP only knows what EN is telling them, the branches are run somewhat autonomously.
>>41309215Minecraft. You guys may hate it, but it brings in the viewers.
>>41311072pic related is how I see EN management staring at homo numbers
>>41309679I was expecting more for the debuts when i first heard about them but there has been so little hype this is about right.
>>41311153yeah the faggot posted a catalog bait here, irys peaked 9798.
>>41311060so they're playing it off stream?
>>41311128Oh boy we got an important CEO here spending 9 hours a day schizoposting about an anime shark
>>41310153It's unfair that Tempus is excluded from the hyped new Holo server.
>>41311109They are here and you can see how mans are obsessed with numbers, moreso than us.
>>41309279I blame Kiara for the lack of EN3. She didn't want Council and she absolutely doesn't want EN3.
>>41311221cunnies make him cry
So let's say cover finally decides to cave in to the EN3 beggars and debuts EN3.What numbers do you realistically expect them to have once their debut buff runs out?
>>41311270If Kiara was in charge we wouldn't have tempiss
>>4130967910-12 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>41311281That really depends on quality of girls
>>41311109it's probably not management but himself being retarded and trying to "cheat the system"
>>41311226Thanks for your wish, your voice will be heard.
>>41311281Do you think I am Nostradamus?
>>41310694Imagine if holo doing this to iluna now
>>41311281more than bae
>>41311221Uh uh uh, you don't get to deflect that easily. If you can't even guess how much I make, how can I trust your /#/ predictions? And since you look at numbers so often, surely you have good finances.Go on. Post them. I'd love to see what you're living with
>>41311281One sub 2k viewers, two of them at 4/5k viewers, and the last two at 9/10k average.
>>41311281Pretty much this>>413113205k+ unless they're a massive disappointment from the very start. Depends on their rms too.
>>41309144If you watched the actual stream you would notice she actually took a break to sleep in the middle of it, she's not streaming for numbers (and isn't loud at all btw)
>>41311315That would be mean. It will be like stepping on the leftover food before the beggar can eat it.
Anyone has access to 2020 ccv data? How does Mori's Atlus begging stream compared to her sponsored P3P stream?
>>41311281Are they good? Do they sing well? Do they have cute models? Does Gura take a shine to one? Do they collab with or mention the tempus bois? Any outstanding talents or stream monsters?Too many complex factors to predict
>>41309462At least she's keeping her audience, unlike IRyS who is getting worse numbers than before the redesign
>>41311281is impossible to say this without at least seeing the designs
>>41311331NTA, go back
>>41311331go back
>>41311109this shit is so pathetic man, instead of raiding his genmate on time he wait for the 2 faggots to airlift him then insta raid. disgusting
>>41311281I realistically expect Council numbers. They will have 1/2 tourist magnets, someone with a strong floor but low ceiling and someone who filters everyone at debut. This is assuming they don't have a breakout star like Kobo/Gura that can incline the whole gen.
>>41311405>Leave my hugboxAnd the holofag concedes. Next.
>>41311281Even if they’re all Mori tier median wise I’d be happy.
>>41311387>beggarOh, you.Kek
>>41311281after they normalize 10k the cunny8k the blue onelow floor, high ceiling the red/pink one4k the blonde one6k the purple one
>>41311455I really feel sorry for you
>>41311281>EN3 beggarsWould you call beggar someone imploring a starving man to eat a bite of bread?
>>41311331I’m not the person you were arguing with, I’m just a bystander laughing at you asking for personal financial info on 4chan because someone made fun of you obsessive ranting about a shark in /#/Clearly that wounded your pride, why is that?
>>41311455>>>/lgbt/
>>41311492I don't think about you at all
Ngl but I find it impossible to hate Kuzuha, the dude thank people for watching after every of his streamMore Vtuber should do that
>>41310524You can check here https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/KiaraExcluding the sockpuppet stream because it is only a one time thing, her last 4 handcam streams are :1) Let's make advent wreath - 3,325/3,826 (2 months ago)2) Making lunch with my airfryer - 2962/3610 (2 months ago)3) France snackbox testing - 3355/4147 (3 months ago)4) moar ironbeads for the irongod - 3486/4145 (5 months ago)Clearly she does not spam these and these streams are lower than her median and averages. Every Pokemon stream of hers barring one beat these numbers. At best they are on par with her average/median
>>41311390
>>41311300>>41311392>>41311400>>41311450It's taking really long for Cover to find the appropiate candidates, so expect council tier candidates, or similar level to the ones that debuted for jewcorp or from the pool of graduated indies that keeps getting posted hereDon't worry about the designs since their mamas are going to be popular anyways and no tanned holos
>>41310119insane cope
>>41311492You have replied to all my post as soon as the 1 min cd allowed you and holofags seem to live rent free in your mind, so I'm pretty sure you do
>>41309772It was an arc for the girls but not so much for their audience since streaming and providing content wasn't exactly their priority. We'll see if they feel closer after that though.
>>41311532man those were the days
>>41311515Yet JP schizos put him on top 10 most hated chuuba
>>41311560Stop trying to pose as me holofag. Next.
>>41311448Kek, this is some NijiCN shit
>>41311270Wasn't that on her debut or first stream that she said she doesn't want any more because she doesn't think there's room for any more after myth? That was honestly a bit of a red flag for me, I got a pretty negative impression of her when she said that. It just sounded so selfish.
>>41311549>It's taking really long for Cover to find the appropiate candidatesAll the good ones are already taken because Cover is indecisive.
>>41311551for kiara? agreed
Tempus are totally popular and a massive success!
>>41311500>food analogyIt should be a starving vegan that refuses to eat anything that comes from an animal
>>41311586JP schizos would mass voting random Vtuber on that because of the dumbest reasons
>>41311532Thanks anon.>20k begging stream vs 7k sponsoredOOF. And Atlus missed the chance when Mori was at her prime.
>>41311532YIKES
>>41311599Wait what? She really said she doesn't want more kouhais right after debut?
>>41311605Given that none of them are breakthrough talents, cover didn't lose anything
>>41311635only 7k that will be spoiled on the story and won't buy the game vs. 20k. Atlus is winning
>>41311616>>41310940do normalfags know about this
>>41311520Handcam streams aren't buffs for the ones who constantly post pictures of themselves. Mori is similar where her handcam streams only give normal numbers.
>>41311670Kotoka could have been EN Kaela...
>>41311621Yeah, maybe yours fits better.
>>41311616>shota broke 1k with raid"Phew, I am still a 4view"
>>41311616>Well, at least they have the retention when they raid each other unlike Nij-
>>41311128>Fidelity or Vanguard>Not having a personal banker at Goldmanfucking lmao
>>41311670They could be if they were in EN3
>>41311700>4viewon non-superchat stream, already broke that wall couple of days ago
>>41310618Anon, you have no idea what Minecraft autist consider fun, they dig giant autism holes for funJust look at /ybc/, you might not like their standard of "fun", but don't ruin it for them
>>41311716Took you that long for a response? Sure, tell me which hedge fund your personal banker invests in. What's your Large corpo / small corpo split? Did you dip into bonds because they're on the rise? Or are you just using Goldman Sachs as an example because your knowledge of finances is purely cursory?
>>41311725No, if they are unable to get viewers in 2021+2 despite not being in hololive, they are not going to magically beat council numbers just because they have a blue dorito
>>41311687Exactly but also handcam streams are extremely boring after you have done like 3 or 4 of them.
The real truth is, any number > 0, and they will all return the investment EVENTUALLY
>>41309693The last good minecraft arc was when council debuted and they were building the portal to the JP server.
>>41311787>they are not going to magically beat council numbers just because they have a blue doritoThey unironically can. Just look at how much of a shitter Councils were before debut and how little their contents have changed, or worse, how they deteriorated.
>>41311673Duobt Mori can finish the whole thing. And that 20k was more than 2yrs ago, it might not have much mindshare left.
>>41311663Yea gimme a minute i'll go look it should be first or second stream I remember it pretty clearly.
>>41309066Bro. It's only 2 days
>>41311687>for the ones who constantly post pictures of themselvesWhat do you mean? They are not buffs if your fans are doxxfaggots? If anything, they are not a buff if you do it multiple times. It was barely a buff even for Gura and it was her first time
>>41311818now post that in /bis/
>>41311028why off collabs and karokes always underperform for holoEN?
>>41311787If Kronii can keep a 6k average anything is possible
>>41311687?The last handcam stream Mori did was combined with VA11HA11A gameplay. I don’t even remember her last non members handcam before that. The prerecorded SN unboxing?
>>41310531She had more when she playing Geoguessr
>>41309215Gee, I don't know anon. What was the last HoloEN collab that got 20k viewers?
>>41311754>they dig giant autism holes for fun
>>41311874learn what doxxing is
>>41311891Turns out ENbox is really small and they are pretty boring and their contents are repetitive.
>>41311028Meanwhile things more or less remain the same in JP
Why is >Le epic /biz/ multibillionaire 20 y/o cryptobroso fucking mad and why hasn't he been banned yet?
>>41311139RIP
>>41311818find someone to help you with money anon
>>41311785I strictly invest in chicken feet futures on the Chinese commodity market and critical water infrastructure in third world countries.
>>41311785>He uses a hedge fund despite them consistently underperforming compared to just buying the S&P 500LOLLMAO
>>41311891Because most offcollabs are only announced like a few hours before and are at shit hours most of the time.
>>41311940>Running to anons for back up instead of showing financesAaaaaaand you lost. Next.
OH NO !Tomorrow jp hours are going to be insufferable :https://youtu.be/DvWqZiztrXM
*FINAL EN TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN*Here it goes>1/19 DAILY TALLY12,204: Mumei (Hololive)8,441: Kronii (Hololive)8,418: Mysta (Nijisanji)6,813: Fauna (Hololive)5,125: Gavis (Hololive)>EN GOLD FOR JANUARY 20231. Amelia (Hololive) - 19,255 (New Years Countdown and Karaoke)2. Vox (Nijisanji) - 15,692 (Clubhouse Games w/Mysta)3. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,736 (Tasting Fruits w/Fauna)4. Ike (Nijisanji) - 7,576 (Kuukiyomi 3)5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,036 (Return stream)6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,946 (Collab w/Petra, Enna, Reimu, Sonny, Scarle, Doppio, Kotoka, and Ver)7. Amelia (Hololive) - 24,748 (Mini Live and Birthday Zatsu)8. Flayon (Hololive) - 30,354 (Vtuber Debut)9. Ina (Hololive) - 35,609 (Return Stream)10. Pomu (Nijisanji) - 21,699 (w/Reimu, Vox, Ren, Scarle, Sonny, Uki, Aia, Kyo, Fungus, Zaion, Ike, Doppio, and Enna)11. Alban (Nijisanji) - 10,434 (Heave Ho w/Fungus, Uki, and Sonny)12. Ina (Hololive) - 14,195 (Drawing)13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 14,877 (Luxiem Off-collab)14. Elira (Nijisanji) - 56,103 (3D Debut)15. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,798 (GeoGuesser)16: Mori (Hololive) - 21,756 (Monopoly w/Kronii, Noir, and Magni)17. Luxiem Channel (Nijisanji) - 27,078 (Super Smash Bros. Off Collab FIRST EVER OMG)18. Amelia (Hololive) - 9,448 (Return Stream)19. Mumei (Hololive) - 12,204 (Drawing w/Ina)>GOLD PER COMPANYHololive - 10Nijisanji - 9Others - 0>GOLD PER STREAMER3x: Amelia2x: Ina, Vox, Mysta, Mumei1x: Ike, Flayon, Pomu, Alban, Elira, IRyS, Mori>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)21p: Ina18p: Vox16p: IRyS15p: Amelia12p: Mumei, Mysta9p: Fauna8p: Kiara, Ike6p: Kronii5p: Flayon, Pomu, Alban, Elira, Mori3p: Baelz, Sonny, Hakka, Selen1p: Meloco, Shinri, Gavis, Axel
>>41311924Bro? Don't you love a 1000x1000 hole that goes all the way to the bottom of the world?
>>41311995Multiple of the ORK ones were announced beforehand and at fine hours for EN though.
>>41311845Yea. The problem is that after that + sportsfes, everyone was pretty much DONE with minecraft, having burnt out on it. Which is why everyone jumped on Ark and then Rust, since they weren't sick of sandbox games, just specifically Minecraft.
>>41312010>5,125: Gavis (Hololive)Yeah you should buy yourself a rope and tie yourself a noose.
>>41312003>leech>chicken>leechHOLY TRIO!
>>41312022>fine hoursno
>>41311985Who says I use a hedge fund? I haven't said anything about that. I'm just asking what they know about hedge funds. Reading reps.Next.
>>41312045Where are the number source tho?
>>41312046Switch Sports, the fruit taste testing one, hell even the karaoke.
>>41309765NijiJP fans are very cutthroat with snap decisions on who to keep watching. If you don't instantly interest them they won't sub or watch, at best they will wait and see. Because of that, I would be surprised if any of them have 5k+ streams, but I also think whatever number they do have will be their stable viewership until they either incline naturally or get a boost from 3D. It's just how the JP fans are.
Just how many collab Kiara got lined up wtf?
>>41312024It's been over a year now, can't they get some people together to build the ID portal?
>>41312113This is the last one iirc, she’s busy with recordings for the rest of the trip or something
>>41312113Leech loves to pump her numbers
>>41312117fauna was talking about it in october, they might be unironically waiting for EN3 at this point.
>>41312108>until they either incline naturally or get a boost from 3D.So it's basically 'game over' for a Niji if they don't incline after their 3D debut?
>>41312001What happens now that he lost?
>>41312113This is her last one
>>41312024And even then there's only so much you can do with itWe all agree these games thrive on Holo interactions but every possible interactions have happened. If they want it to be buff again they have to create new interactions, it can't just be Micomet, PekoMari, etc forever
>>41311687Gura and Ame don't post pictures of themselves and handcams barely do anything for them. Ame's last handcam lost to Geoguesser. Gura's FIRST EVER HALLOWEEN COOKING HANDCAM OMG got a wopping 10 more CCV than Littler Nightmares Pt 1Handcams aren't turbo buffs like in Niji because the audience of EN is 98% men and men aren't as attracted to hands as women are
>>41312108Honestly seeing how low on hype they are I think the first streams will be 4k max and the most popular ones will settle at 1-2k median and the lowest at 3view mark
>>41312024Didn't EN have multiple collabs preparing for the ID portal and Ame's hyperloop. I remembered Kronii, Sana, Mumei and Fauna were searching for new biomes from the bunkeronii and they found a desert.Then Ame was testing in creative mode for some funky stations for her hyperloop ? I think that was also the last gurame collabWhat happened with that ?
>>41312041Nice deflection Nijisis. You a little upset that Mysta's big return stream couldn't beat Kronii fucking around in Geoguessr?
>>41312222EN literally operate on a different set of rule cause handcam are still buff on JP
>>41312222Gura didn't show hand in her handcam, it was more like... sleevecam
Stop shit talking NijiJP are you're going to make me really mad
>>41310585Yes, so is Mumei. But, they both poorfag it, because they live alone and their parents probably taught them how to properly budget and save.
>>41311281Council level unless someone goes viral, which I doubt will happen. Chances of another Gura-level EN seem slim, Cover can't even get another Pekora or Miko in JP.
>>41311616Anon, Shinri is reading superchat. He has been ever since his stream reached 60 minutes in length.
>>41312271lieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGGkKfT2XA
>>41310524Men and women want different things from the streams they watch, sister.
I think I am in love with Sophia, until she starts playing Valorant that is.
>>41312222>Gura's handcamYou fucking nigger, it wasn't a handcam stream, that shit slipped in frame for 2 seconds
>>41312117Is an EN-ID portal really necessary? They can just take an extra min (or less with elytra) via JP
>>41312284Stop botting your liver, sister >>41309883
>>41312259NTA but homos are not holos
>>41312343So not for long then
>>41312222Holy cope
>>41312300Isn't talking stream like that already a glorified spacha reading combined with spacha begging?
>>41312311A small animation channel made an animation of that clip, and it basically single-handedly revived their channel that hadn't had similar success in over a decade.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJivnWf0RIs
>>41312386Truly the bootleg Vesper.
>>41312041Follow your own advice homonigger
>>41312010What happened? Nijikeks told me today was Mysta Gold? Why was I lied to?
>>41312354It's symbolic
>>41311479>EN3's best case scenario is going toe to toe against JP's 3rd armyGrim
>>41312367Yeah, what a waste.
>>41312359It's short for Hololive Production.
>>41312386No.
>>41312354Who cares if it isn't strictly necessary, making one is an event and a collab opportunity, things that have been sorely lacking in EN recently.
>>41312419turns out Mysta "gura of nijiCN" Rias cannot even match a depressed gook with a return zatsu the day before his birthday, so much for the new faggot prime.
We don't shit on Niji homos here because they get good numbers. Go back newfags.
>>41312466Never was homobeggar.
>>41312386In this case yes because he is trying to copy Vesper style
>>41310618Minecraft has been Hololive's most popular game ever since the first JP server. If you're a /#/ fag you should be happy about this new JP minecraft arc.
>>41312511Sure thing sister.
>>41312344Don't care. The word Cam is in the title. Take it up with the shark
>>41312522Sister...
>>41312511>>41312482
>>41312543KEK
>>41312469So many canceled collabs. The Minecraft Wither collab... The Girls Talk collab... And some others...
>>41312561What homonigger?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyavrmWlwcIWasn't this supposed to be today? Why did he run away?
>>41312531Who will emerge victorious I wonder, Vesper or Shinri?
God I love NijiEN. No group can make /#/ seethe so hard just by existing.
>>41312482Kek, look at Bae's number faggot.Also no it did not say return stream.Also Kronii and Mumei had buffed streams.Tomorrow Vox will win the goldAlso Vshojo is bigger than holo en
>>41311579Hasn't that been the case for pretty much all EN off collabs?Streaming for fans always seemed to be an afterthoughtwhile they were either vacationing or recording something(Kiara's 3D live early last year, probably holofes stuff this year)They treat them more like standard collabs rather than events
>>41312010>5,125: Gavis (Hololive)KYS
>>41311616Another one! StarsJP too with the NATURAL INCLINE
>>41312607MAD would be the preferable outcome.
>>41312511>good numbers
>>41312617Pretty sure this thread seethes more about Tempus nowadays despite their low numbers.
>>41312386should've went roberu route
Wow the hive is really upset today, was it the Kuzuha graph?
>>41312637Homiemoon…Austria…
>>41312649Now post Bae and Mori.
>>41312644Why it's always this guy?
>>41312658I wonder what Mea smells like?
>>41312635I will kek your mom in bed
People really seem to have Luxiem rent free in their minds. Lmao.God Iove holo jp fags seething because none made the top 4.Also Luxiem is currently the Vtuber generation for en viewers no matter how much you all cope
>>41312688because homoen raids him for whatever reason
Cunnytards BTFO'D!
>>41312728Luxiem with full buff content is unstoppable in EN bar buffed Gura.
>>41312201I wouldn't say that. Sorahoshi Kirame has had a cosy little incline in viewership since winning the Mahjong tournament. Asahina Akane hasn't inclined much at all despite being one of the best singers in the branch but she still landed a gig under a record label with Inui and Chima. NijiJP and the way fans approach them is just a huge enigma, but with the exception of Salome it's quite rare to see continued viewership decline. If these girls debut as low 4-views chances are they'll just stay as low 4-views. JP fans are just way quicker at determining if a chuuba is for them or not.
>>41311109Perhaps they don't really look too much into it I mean EN management would know it's low-quality peaks but they would rather not bring attention to it, in fact it's EN management that pushed them into this raid marathons of 1 hour streams, formula pretty much designed to share small numbers between multiple people.
>>41312728You forgot your: ". Next."
>>41312594listen to miko
>>41312751>barely beat the Monopoly collab with a full offcollab
>>41312728Luxiem moggs council any day. Today's stream was a proof that for normal streams, Musta moggs all of council. Buffed streams don't count to a zatsu
>>41312789KYS OBORETAI
Why are Niji fans so mentally ill? Their post honestly sounds like someone from a psych ward every time.
>>41312637Yeah, it's not that different in NijiEN. Lazulight was in Japan for like a month and did what, 2 offcollab streams? The switch sports and the karaoke.
>>41312788Wasn't me. I'm just lurking, but I'm glad to know that I live in your head.Rent. Free.Next.
>>4131278935piss..
>>41312792>barely
Why can't EN have their own A-chan
>>41311109They still have investors as a private company, YAGOO isn't bankrolling COVER by himself. They also intend on going public at some point.
>>41312728>People really seem to have Luxiem rent free in their minds. Lmao.>God Iove holo jp fags seething because none made the top 4.>Also Luxiem is currently the Vtuber generation for en viewers no matter how much you all cope
>>41312534Except that it's not bringing good numbers at all. Fucking Geogessr is doing better numbers than Minecraft.
>>41312728VShojo>>Myth>Luxiem>>>Council>NoctyxThese are the top 5 Vtuber groups
>>41312845She would just be another homobeggar
>>41312511
>>41312845They have Jenma but she is complicit in making the entire EN management as shit as it is now. The only function of Jenma is to soften the blow of whatever bad news that came the way of the girls.
>>41312826Come on anon, post a nude and get banned, show all the anons here you aren't a schizo
>>41312919Irys when she sees big Brian cock
>>41311222I fully expect Kronii to play it off-stream.
>>41312681>>41312649I'm waiting.
>>41312240>Didn't EN have multiple collabs preparing for the ID portalThey were just roaming around, chatting doing nothing
>>41312681NTA but here's Mori.
>>41312946Surname of Brian? Narita.
>>41312010NijiEN has 3 cripple golds lined up in a row with Finana and 2 full days of wrestlesanji. And another cripple gold guaranteed with Pomu 3d.
>>41312789
>>41311285Tempus was the compromise. Kiara absolutely prefers having the Stars over another girls gen.
>>41313026
>>41312960Who would win? The HIGHLY ANTICIPATED PERSONA 3 that Mori had to BEG Atlus to play, fueled with drama buff and first time game buffOr one fox guy doing a zatsuThe answer will shock you!
>>41312010Stop posting this. You’re attracting NijiEN dumbasses.
>>41312979>2 full days of wrestlesanji.Are they doing it on youtube this time?
clockwoman>mansanjiEN
>>41313065Yes, over the course of 2 days
>>41312979Looks like NijiEN will win cripple gold this month even with tally anon's interference. Pathetic.
>>41313045Had the fox dude just returned from a trip to Japan where he hung out with other Luxiem members and had stories to share?
>>41306560>>41306713how to not get retweeted by holoJP 101
>>41313045not the same day retard, if you wanna shitpost do it right.
>>41311450It will be worse than Council, because it's diminishing returns every new gen for EN. Unless they debut a cunny chuuba that will bring in the JP fans and other pedos.
>>41306560kanaru you disgusting faggot
>>41312789Those subs looks absolutely cancerous
>>41312845that was going to be Omega, thankfully it didn't happen
>>41313202Or if they debut a charismatic, talented chuuba who can stream regularly and bounce off well with other girls.
>>41313165he doesn't need to since watson became his regulars
>>41312789Fucking homolover just couldn't abandon her ways
C'mon Kotoka, Nina needs just one more raid to get the cripple tally. Finish up your Ark stream already.
>>41312845
>>41310507>twitterfags ever turning against vshojo
>>41313311Was Nina always a 4k streamer? Holy incline
>>41313266good one
>>41313252what do you think omega's voice sounds like?
>>41313372Male
>>41313349Absolutely, never doubt the power of the fox momMore than half of these had raids
>>41313247you haven't seen this onethis was from her own dedicated clipper
>>41313448What no Kosaka cum does to a 35piss.
>>41313434fun streams
>>41313434Literally female Vesper
civil war in the comments of vesper's latest video
>>41313311who else raided them?
>>41313524Enna, she jumped into their VC as well.
>>41313525>Muh parasocial
>>41313521Take a screenshot of Vesper's streams and it won't look anything like that
>>41313525qrd?
>>41313525You can tell the rest of /MANS/ is getting tired of Vesties always acting like Vesper is infallible.
>>41313568anon probably talking about the game choices
>>41312601I swear he has a I'm back stream every 2 weeks
>>41313567that explains the number, thanks
>>41313570Think a mix between his Zatsu being nothing but SC reading and him ghosting the Tempus collab and doing the Kronii one instead.
>>41312688He sounds like Ado
>>41313521Thank fuck Vesper doesn't say anything like "honey" or similar at the end of every damn sentence but yeah if Nina wasn't such a fucking terrible streamer I definitely would have watched her for her game choices.
>>41313570>Vesper has a lot of work to do in Nippon>decided to put it off so he can travel around and do touristy stuff>tells the boys he's probably not gonna be able to make big Tempus collab behind the scenes>they change the game from L4D2 to Pummel Party (not strictly an 8 player game) a few days in advance with no explanation >market it as a full Tempus collab>Vesper can't make it surprise surprise>Nobody told the fans he wasn't gonna be there so Vesties were assblasted>Vesper streams the next day>gives his explanation about work>says he would have been drowned out in the collab anyway since he's quiet and there's 8 people so it wouldn't have mattered anyway>Vesties in the comments get mad and tell him he needs to communicate moreThat's it that's the situation. Someone said something about him forgetting his anxiety meds but I can't confirm it.
>>41306282>>41306296is this actually a niji
>>41309679damn, niji debuts stole a gold from king and not from pekora
>>41313434>Great value Botan that's buoyed up by raidsNijiCN is disgusting.
>>41313680>fans already demanding more streams not even half a year into his careerNgmi
>>41313704PekoSalome daughter yes.
>>41313680Why write all this if you haven't watched his stream?
>>4131372210k members and this lady can't buy a decent bed to sleep in ffs
>>41313733 don't look at his graph
>>41313733His stream would probably have been disqualified if it was #1
>>41313736>Nina>Great value Botanabsolute disrespect to Botan
>>41313680Yeah, he said he didn't bring any kind of medicine with him since Japan can be fucking nazis over even some over-the-counter stuff and he didn't want to chance it.
>>41313736Oh shit ruski bros watch her. But why?
>>41313747I did just the first like 15 minutes though he's boring i only watch bettel and magni >>41313743
>>41313797She's Russian retardbro how did you not know this>hurr because I don't watch Niji whoresKys
So, what did we learn so far, anon?
>>41313795It is wrong to let every single one of your citizens to have access to psychiatric medicine anyway. Those shits are reserved for people who are actually sick.
>>41313824Bocchi is my wife
>>41313824Pekora's reign is over...
>>41313826Unironically yes. I don't watch Nijisanji and I never will.
>>41313826Nah. She never speaks Russian. Russian has a very specific accent when they speaks English.
>>41312688>Rio>guyReps.
>>41313767She bought one when she moved anon
>>41313895Anon... at least do your rm reps
>>41312688He's the homos' onahole, you too would want to fuck his bussy.
>>41313914oh is she out of the nest? That could be great for her content
>>41311532WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED ENBROS???
I don't understand how you guys meltdown about homos every every day and cry about nijification, but ignore the fact that Bae has literally offcollabed with a homo just a few days ago.
>>41312845>Why can't we have more inside homobeggars?t. Axel.
>>41313952She's been out for months. She had already moved out before her break.
is there really no hype for Finana's 3D? where is everyone
>>41313965Ah, you must be new. You see, in mid December, YT fucking culled theever-loving shit out of HoloEN.
>>41313964most anons assume she's too young to know better (I don't). But yeah you're not wrong, and it's one of the reasons she gets shit numbers.
>>41314027I'm waiting for Pomu 3D.
>>41313786>His stream would probably have been disqualified if it was #1The graph is so confusing that I can't tell what his peak actually was.
>>41314046The thing is, Tempiss X HoloEn offcollab is inevitable, with Mori/Kronii/Bae most likely. And I'm so tired of it. Just so tired of the drama. I don't even care about these women, but the cancer they bring on HoloEN in general is draining. Especially Kronii who summoned the fucking twitter crusaders on the fanbase and they never left.
>>41313952The stress from the move, combined with all her priestess duties + Sana graduating all happening in the summer + Her PC having issues after moving, all of that combined is what put her over the edge into having to take that multi month break.
>>41313722why do you hide the likes?
>>41314119inventing scenarios in your head to get mad at must be tiring
>>41314027What, are you expecting King to advertise it like he did Elira's? Elira just got lucky that her 3D was announced while she was participating in a JP mahjong tournament.
>>41313946Next you are going to tell me Natalie Portman and Isaac Asimov are Russians.
>>41313964ou can cope by saying stuff like >it was at a studio>JP homos are finebut at the end of the day there isn't a lot of seethe because barely anybody gives a fuck about bae
Does anybody find it insane that ever since Hololive broke the 100k+ range for a Vtuber debuts way back since Gen 5 that Nijisanji as yet to do so despite all the waves they debuted since then
>>41314119There was no drama after the Monopoly collab. You can let go of your fears
>>41314046>too young to know betterImagine unironically saying this about male collabs and meaning it, kek.
>>41314180Didn't Salome achieve that?
Raspberry goldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9XCgdZ2hLo
>>41313965Half the numbers just magically disappeared one December. The rest is genuine recline.
>>41313964not even the first time in her branch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl1oofD34AU
>>41314180So you're just gonna conveniently pretend Salome never existed?
>>41314208Salome was 90k+, not 100k
>>41313964Because what she did has been done in JP years before
>>41314180Didn't Iluna all hit 100k before debut? Because they got lucky and didn't get culled.
>>41314234100k ccv is what he meant
>>41313964Bros...Suisei DANCED with TWO homos...Are ""we"" angry?
>>41314225She followed that up with a 100k stream and was the only vtuber ever to have a 2nd stream go higher than their debut stream.
>>41314195I said offcollab, pay attention. If you think there won't be drama there...you haven't been paying attention. >>41314169Mori is genuinely predictable, there is absolutely no way she doesn't eventually offcollab with Magni. Bae and Kronii might have some reticence there.
>>41313964Are you fucking serious? how is that even close to nijification. It was a professional offcollab in a controlled environment with multiple managers present and everyone acted very respectfully and formally to one another. You have lost your mindNijification doesn't happen until I see a homo collab every week and there's cock/sex jokes on stream
>>41314219How many times must people explain Mori is a lost cause? Any comparison to Mori is an insult. It's like me saying you eat shit and you going "fool, do you not know the great shit eater has eaten so much more shit than me! he was the first!".
>>41314274As well as a 5th stream/4th episode of a playthrough being her highest stream ever. Totally legit numbers, waow.
>>41314288>Nijification doesn't happenMust be good business selling ENfags copium.
>>41314119>>41314278just ignore the bad apples and stick to the good girls. Good things don't last, especially if you're powerless to protect them. Just don't be a SIMP.
>>41314274>was the only vtuber ever to have a 2nd stream go higher than their debut streamWasn't til her third stream that her numbers magically inclined past her debut numbers.
Holofags can't comprehend that a really unique debut coupled with the hype of a solo debut followed by a massively buffed RE8 game could possibly beat her debut numbers. No, it must be bots.
>>41314344Shut the fuck up JP kek, they have done worse
>>41312298Yeah, with the exception of ID3, Cover hasn't been geniuses at recruiting since MythCover no longer has an "obvious" pool of candidates like they had for early JP gens (utaite and NND scene) and Myth (Gura was an absolute no brainer hire)ID2 is the weakest ID gen since its "star" Ollie crashed and burnedCouncil was okay if you charitably treat it as a long-term investment due to part-timers and mental, but it also had duds like Sana and BaeHolox was okay since they have Koyo (streaming monster numberfag) and Chloe (Rushia 2.0), but Laplus (menhera) and Lui (runt)Uproar is a complete failureTempus 1 showed some promise early on, but was ultimately a poison pill, including for Tempus 2And even if they do manage to hire gems, while management be up to the task? Especially EN management which has been an utter clusterfuckThat said, the main competition is doing worse with recruitment, so it's not like JP7/EN3 need to be spectacular...but it would nonetheless be disappointing if they weren't
>>41314345I would agree with you but>unironically using the word simpkill yourself
>>41314317People have dropped the bot accusations since its genuinely more hilarious and hurtful to say she somehow degenerated to a sub 10k vtuber in mere months, but yeah she was botted as fuck.
>>413091441. Timeslot2. Zatsu/Chill game being played by someone incapable of being "chill"
>>41314274Ok but not her debut
>>41314266It's Suisei, this thread has different standards for her.
>>41309215just fucking streamit's really not that complicated
>>41314372Oh, so the "Pekwhora" schizo is an ENfags. I can't pretend that I am surprised.
>>41314360>buffed RE8 gameIt was RE7. Not that you would know, since you, like all the others that used her to shitpost here never watched her.
HoloEn need some arcs or batsu gamesomeone vs En speedrunning GOI or shit like Miko with GTA/soulcaliburGura streaming wwe...only 2 streams
>>41314417>this thread has different standards for most JPsFTFY
>>41314372OH NO NO NO NO NO JPKEKS???
>>41314423Not even the same guy, just calling you out on your hypocrisy
>>41314422Come on.
>>41314372"Idolfags" getting angry about a quintessential idol show never gets old.
>>41314429True, I could have just pointed out that she went from 100k to sub 10k in less than half a year KEK
>>41312113she is the Koyori of EN, she has to leech as much as she can
>>41314463
>>41314372sankisei are fucking whores...
>>41314372They will ignore this
>>41314178No because Baelz don’t drag other people into it. She want to do it so she do it, not to prove a point or something or want to drag others into itThat is unironically being respectful
>>41314463ENfags see this schedule and still think there is lack of streams because their precious shark is not streaming.
>>41314463This is not the gotcha you think it is.
>>41314498>Baelz don’t drag other people into it.
>>41314488Anon, all of those streams are hololive stream this week, not holostars. You can't even read a fucking schedule ?
>>41314472He's the one who tried to argue on a losing ground, otherwise I agree with you
>>41314498She's the only one who dragged someone else into it in Mumei, retard
>>41309765One rising star will get 10k+Others will be around 5k-8k eachAll of them will be sub 5k in 1-2 weeksAll of them will be 3views in a month
>>41309448>return buff with a bunch of stories from the Luxiem full off collab streaming during CN primetime>korean menhera playing with google mapsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH *WHEEZE* HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>41314524LolAll of her Stars collab have been just her
>>41314498>Don't drag other people into itMumei...Garctic Phone...
>>41314524>>41314551No proof whatsoever to dateThis will forever be hooman cope, not to mention Mumei used to show up in star chats before the collab.
>>41314579Fauna...
>>41314523>5 to 6 stream per day>With 8 members (IRyS sick, Gura out)>WhErE ArE ThE StReAmS ?Anon, genuinely jump off a bridge
>>41314592>used to show up in star chats before the collabproof?
>>41314463Nice job cutting out all the dead hours
>>41314498that's called normalization, also you're "forgetting" about>>41314579seems to me you're a coping brat
So tell meIf Nijisanjification isn’t realWhat make Hololive different than Nijisanji?
>>41314619Someone please post the astel karaoke screenshot, I'm not going all the way back for this newfag
>>41314463and this is missing a bunch
>>41314641Hololive is successful.
>>41314498>Baelz don’t drag other people into
>>41314645ok so no proof
>>41314623>People stream around primetimeShocking, I know.Who's streaming right now for holoJP ?
>>41314609Yeah 5-6 streams a day. Except for the days where there are 5 hour gaps. Just ignore those
>>41313898What reps?
>>41314623>Wanting people to stream in the number poison EU slots
>>41314641nothing, which is part of the reason the holo(en)box is getting smaller. At this rate it's obvious that HoloEN + time = NijiEN
>>41314609Jesas Irys keeps going on breaks. Wasn't she supposed to stream a lot with her 2.0?
>>41314498Fauna collab stream where she left for homo birthday...Tagging in the homos and holos on twitter and getting no replies for it..
>>41314701And right now HoloJP is going through a 5hours gap. Retardchama, yeah, people stream around the time their viewers can watch them.
>>41314728That's not "dragging"Both of those contexts were related to her and the other girls weren't involved
Can't believe hookeks and sapkeks pin down Bae for doing her job professionally when their oshis are doing something worse behind the scene>but I don't care about rmThat is just cope and you know it.
>>41314463Now remove members streams and see how that looks
>>41313826Nina would be disgusted by your comment. Ukrainians are not Russians.
>>41314685Can YOU provide proof that Bae dragged Mumei into that collab?You can't, just like how people try to blame Mumei for dragging Ame into a niji collab
>>41311281The very REASON that people are asking for EN3 is because we all want something NEW.And the direction of EN3 will also most likely determine the direction of hiring that management is doing. i.e. if there are more homo collabers, we know the branch is unsalvageable, and if there are more unicorn friendly ones, we know that scouting team is independent of management etc.
>>41314752Just shut the fuck up already faggot. No one likes Bae.
>doxxingso this was just another holo vs holo episode triggered by nijisisters?
>>41314715Europe has 100 million native English speakers and another 385 million ESLs, I'm sure they can find some people who'd watch streams if they ever tried
>>41314788Of course they can't, it's how they cope with the fact that Mumei willingly collabed with homos
>>41314701>5 hour gapsDid you expect them to have 24h uptime or what?
>>41314807always is
>>41314788i mean the stars chat thing, but it seems like rratfags are just retarded
>>41314772"Ukrainian" is a made up term. They are indistinguishable from Russians other than the fact that they live in the teeritory known as The Ukraine.
Eeeeehhhh?!? Nijisanjification? What's that? Is that what you do when you touch yourself at night? Kimoi!
>>41314815where are you getting those numbers
>>41314845I'd argue the hoomans who are trying to pin the blame on Bae without proof are far more retarded in this case and come across as schizos
>>41312728yeah yeah everyone's melting down, now go away
>>41314815We yuros barely watch streams. Even Watame has higher viewership streaming her SC reading than some EN buffed game stream
>>41314752>Contribute to unraveling the HoloEN culture and doing long term, unrepairable damage to the vibe of the branch>vs roommate shitDamn you are fucking dumb. What Bae/Mori/Kronii did shifted the overton window for HoloEN permanently. All HoloEn gens are likely to have more homosluts now, if they indeed have any girl that won't acknowledge them at all, which i doubt.
>>41314815Well, they must all be chumbuds because the only time anyone gets decent numbers in those slots is when Gura is in a collab, and maybe that one time Mumei did a zatsu
>>41314830Considering NijiEN almost has 24/7 coverage and they've been around a shorter time than HoloEN, kind of. Not saying they need to cover all hours or to even accelerate like Niji. But any hours NijiEN is streaming that HoloEN isn't are hours where NijiEN controls the entire EN mind chair between the big corpos.
Let me just inform you all that veibae still hasn't streamed in 2023 because she's too busy on a small vacation with her boyfriend soda, probably trying to trap him into a marriage or pregnancy. Western whores are lazy and low, no matter where you look.
>>41314372I thought JPs don't offpako with males...
>>41314915>one time Mumei did a zatsuShe got like 5K, anon
>>41314901>overton windowgo back
>>41314927can't blame her desu, she basically won the chuuba lotto, she can flaunt her partner and still make money.
>>41314901ESL
>>41314888>muh yuros don't watch streams that's why the timeslot is deadthen why the fuck does the timeslot work on twitch? even for vtubers. just a reminder veibae streamed in eu timezone and had like 8k consistently
>>41314463is this koyoris schedule?
>>41314807Didn't you get the memo? It's not "holo vs holo" if we are shitting on Bae/Mori/Kronii/Kiara/Ame
>>41314901It is all about the talents themselves. Early holoJP are homosluts too including daisenpai but Sankisei managed to break away from that.
>>41314915Ina's old time slot was in EU primetime and she had no issues getting 10K every day
>>41314955Because Veibae is interesting and Kiara is not
>>41314927i feel kinda bad for soda getting honeytrapped by a polish whore
Poll is 10 minutes old... 3x current viewers have voted.
>>41314955>TwitchThat's because it's twitch, where all the poor ES fags congregate and the majority of EU viewers are from all the Esports streams. There isn't nearly the same sort of culture of YT stream viewing at all.
>>41314926What's the point of having 24/7 coverage when it looks like this?
>>41314941Ehh, I just double checked, it was 6.2k in the middle of summer. Still nowhere near enough to justify streaming in those hours.
>>41314985>EU primetimeit was at 10PM/11PM EU time (UTC+1/2), which is not primetime. She was primetime for british maybe, but that's it
>>41314978And now they seem to be getting back into itBut desu it should be up to individual talents anyway
>>41314978There will be no such luck in the west, western women are always one bad day away from SLAYYYY KWEEENing, just fucking look at literally every other vtuber but a select few holoENs. Their best bet was to hold strong to the culture HoloJP passed along, but too many slipped on that.
>>41314985Ina doesn't peak until EST comes home
>>41315008Given the small number of people, it's probably just people who have adblock on
>>41314955Because yuros are not as weeby as NA or SEA. We watch flesh streamers on twitch, or local streamers
>>41314926You can't expect an up time of 24/7 when there are only 8 or 9 active talents. Cover really fucked up by not releasing EN3 and EN4. Now that every decent candidate already went to respective corpo it is already too late.
>>41315008You don't understand anon, this 2 view has a huge chrun rate!
>>41314926>NijiEN controls the entire mind chairIt doesn't matter how many hours you cover if nobody is watching. Have you seen the garbage viewership NijiEN is getting?
>>41315021>20-21Scarle...
>>41315003Hey, he's the one who chose to stick it in without protection. Dude has to own up to the consequences of his own actions, even if there's a pretty decent chance that it results in him losing 50% of everything he owns a few years down the line.
>>41314926Anon are you daft? Why does NijiEN have coverage? ask yourself that. Could it be because they're as big as HoloJP???
>>41314926Aia and Aster will definitely take over the EN scene when there's no overlap. You know, strong mindchair and all
>>41315045Most of Europe's TV networks define prime time as 8-11PM local time
https://twitter.com/The_FirstTake/status/161604281288534016314th most liked tweet in just a little over seven hours. Seems like this was a mutually beneficial move.
>>41314926The fact that NijiEN still doesn't have 24/7 coverage even with 31 streamers should tell you it's literally impossible with how many HoloEN has
>>41315008
>>41315146Yeah primetime END at 11PM. If you START at 11PM, then none of your content is in primetime. If you start at 10, then you barely have one hour in primetime before people start going to sleep
>>41312466Then type holopro you fucking nigger
>>41315190But they do on most days
>>41315190there's a huge middle ground you're missing anon
>>41314927Based Vei thinking long-term.
>>41315021Because CCV = short term races. Stream enough and eventually you'll accrue more people watching you. Yes I know, "VOD view cope." But do you ever wonder why event streams are so much bigger for Gura and Luxiem? Because despite Luxiem's mediocre CCV, they still have massive fanbased who will turn up for events and buy merch. Caring about some arbitrary thing like median isn't going to help you grow. Fostering a global audience who will show up to events, buy merch, and raise your subcount will expose you to more viewers. Holding onto good CCV is nice, but it can't be the only thing you're good at.
>>41315208The point remains that a lot of the "nobody streams for euros" complaints could be resolved by literally just streaming when Ina used to, and that's already been demonstrated to work
>>41315196based yukobro
>>41315184What's the kneel territory 5M? Even some shitters on there get 1-2M
>>41315265Anon a stream starting at 11PM and ending at 3/4AM isn't a stream for euros.
>>41315107they still get around one third of holo's average views. that's not insignificant
>>41315267>Yuko
>>41315135Anon please, selen and fulgur are bigger than any jp
>>41315263There's no point in streaming 24/7 when 75% of the day is fucking dead hours
>>41315225Isn't that mostly thanks to Scarle? Kotoka and Nina are also helping more these days. The most common dead zone is the Euro slot now after xsoleil came out
>>41315021Is the green line or the red line doing better, anon?
>>41315362Red. No one is going to watch streams 24/7 anyway
>>41315336Or maybe it's dead hours because no one even attempts to stream in those hours. You never know if you'll get a breakout success in a region. Someone mentioned Veibae regularly getting 8k in euro hours. Imagine if Hololive could do that. That would be far more impressive to me than a 12k chuuba streaming in a free time slot in NA primetime.
>>41315362red because that's holoen
>>41315401>No oneThere's obviously more people waching the green one
>>41315362I am pretty sure if you calculate the area under the graph, green covers a bigger area.
>>41315362>>41315452>WHY AREN'T THESE JPS STREAMING 24/7 WHEN THEY HAVE THE NUMBERS???
>>41315269https://twitter.com/The_FirstTake/status/1477112402521235466?s=20https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6G6lo6359YDunno, this was the most liked tweet in their account and it has 15m in a year.
>>41315362If I look at this without bias, green. However I hate Nijisanji so red is better.
>>41315507kek.JP would get 10-20k total for someone streaming during the euro hours, I know the one time that Rushia and Suisei have done an insomniac stream they've gotten alright numbers, but honestly unless you have someone who's a crazy night-owl, it isn't worth it in the long run.
>>41315556Anon don't be a nijinigger. You know twitter likes don't translate to views.
>>41315267Who's Yuko? I only see Shamiko.
Why are Nijiniggers gloating about having "24/7" streams when they always coped about them choosing livers to watch instead of watching them all when they were defending the ACCELERATION strategy?
>>41309448Isn't this guy the MC of Luxiem? He was pulling 14k last time i heard of him. What happened?
>>41315567It was even a good day for HoloEN. Most days look closer to this
>>41315626ogey
>>41315663thanks
>>41315576I mean we already have pretty much 24/7 streams from hololive. First their jp primetime where the japan and id girl streams. Then shifts to Eu primetime where vesper Shinri, and Kiara streams. Then the baton get passed to ina and fauna to carry on the way to en primetime. Then the cycle repeats again that 24/7 streams already.
>>41315646Still can't believe he got away with the shark plushie
>>41315646I mean, what happened is that it's a zatsu. He only really gets good numbers on Genshin and Horror Kusoge anyway.
>>41315649Delete this.
Mumei you retard, if your stream is going to be unarchived you should say so in the title.
>>41315735now the shark plushie is pregnant, will give tiny shark plushies
>>41315734>from hololive>shifts to Eu primetime where vesper Shinriogey
So we all agree it's the IR
>>41314619https://twitter.com/astelleda/status/1431869594629640192https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1431921968400400385
>Millie had to private her stream cause Fulgur called Hex a phillipino and he hates itI do not understand. What's wrong with being one?
Since Luca moved his stream does that mean cripple gold for Moom today?
>>41315507The numbers decrease because there are no streams, not the other way around. Do you really think there is zero potential audience at 6 PM?
>>41310694It's funny how many people forgot the context of the leak, especially what we know retroactively.That yes, indeed HoloEN management lust their fucking marbles and went AWOOOGA at Luxiem's numbers then started printing their own homos.That nijis thought Luxiem was competing with HoloJP. That the "failed" council mogs Noctyx so hard its not even funny, and so does Tempiss1.
>>41315762If she gets sub 10k on her karaoke I'm dropping her for IRyS. I refuse to oshi a failure.
>>41315813hoomans what is this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO0RcmLnpqUexpectations?
>>41315823Flips have a very large amount of self-loathing, on account of their fellow flips being absolute shitters online. Just take a look at this thread during JP primetime, a large number of those shitposts are from flipfags.
>>41315823>what's wrong with being one?If you have a choice, would you want to be a Philipino?
>>41315861I believe you sister.
>>413158751.5k? Machina seems like the runt of the litter
>>41315861IRyS' last karaoke was sub 10k
>>41315842>I WONDER WHY THERE ARE NO STREAMS! WHY AREN'T THESE LAZY JP CORPOS NOT STREAMING?THE NUMBERS WOULDN'T DECREASE IF THEY ALL STREAMED 24/7!
>>41315875I have none. 2k if the sisters are feeling generous
>>41315875if he is not a 3view it will already be good enough
>>4131587510k
>>41315813UUUUHHHH HOOKEKS?????? YOUR OSHI MET WITH STARS IN PERSON???>Also met with BaeKek, brats no longer have the cope that Bae doesn't drag others into homo collabs. She's fucking poison and needs to be segregated
>>41315813I wonder what changed, she was very big on males pre debut too
>lots of EN clippers just recycling Gura clips instead of clipping the other girlsthis is getting hilarious. can't they try to clip other holoENs? IDs? Tempus? Nijis?
>>41315875For a sec I thought that was a picture of Kobo.
>>41315875Less than Koyori waiting room at the same time.
>>41315990people change their mind on thingsit's no big deal
>>41315983Bots
>>41315990Doesn't have to be anything too dramatic. "Oh shit I guess a lot of fans care about me not doing this huh, better not do it, I am after all an entertainer hiding behind a fake persona who the fuck cares about coworkers I barely speak to, and this shit brings drama on them too". People trying to make interacting with homos an ideological thing are stupid. It's as easy as "not content I want to deliver since I don't think my fans want it", not a demonic choice for or against.
>>41315983What would eventually happen if PekoGura were to perform in a shitter 3D live.
>>41315990she found out about the unfortunate idol culture
>pomu tier numbers bae
>>41315983Fucking Messi/Ronaldo tourists
>>41316035More like she saw she couldn't get big noombers if she collabed with males. But now that she's made bank, she's going to go back on her word. It happens all the time. Western women get uppity from a bit of success and think they can start ignoring their fans. Once a homolover, always a homolover.
>>41315999>IDsThey have their own clippers that do alright, and I see their clips pop up sometimes>Other ENsGet some clips>TempusFuck off homobegger>NijisSome try, but generally you're either a Njij clipper or a Holo clipper. Attempts at mixing don't work too well, and you can see when someone tries that their numbers tank.
>>41314372Dumb newfag
>>41315990She fell in love with CGDCT
>>41316096I have unironically never seen a 3d live lose a Gura incline but I remember to this day Nousagis fucking off and dipping one down after Pekora left.
>>41315999Easy views
>>41316121Pomu gets 4k+ playing kusoge
>>41315990She's trying to bring her SCs up lately
>>41315813Man, to think Tempus was such horrible people she chose to completely cut all males off.
>>41316121That's rude. At least Pomu almost hit 4k in overlap KEK
>>41315999They also did it when Ina was away, I don't see why that's a big deal.
>>41315975Then why didn't Bae force IRyS into anything depsite also having Mori influence on top of it? This is just Hoocuck cope.
>>41315983what was the peak?
>>41316121But she was streaming during EN dead hours!
Can we rename this thread to ‘the unicorn thread’ already? Watching (you) seethe over any mention of males is getting boring.
>>41315999It's free money, just clip a random 1.5 minute gura moment from the past two years and get 50k views. Latent chumbie demand is too easy to milk
>>41313704yes
>>41316202There wasn't anywhere near as much Ina.
>>41315990they just need to check their paychecks, it's that easy
>>41316189the attitude towards JP stars definitely changed here after tempiss debuted although i doubt that affected the general fanbase. barely anybody watched them to begin with
>>41316225Why are her hands like that?
>>41316208She probably tried, but IRyS is too strong willed to fall for her homo collabs. Mumei lacks confidence, so she just goes along with everything. It's her biggest flaw but I can't blame her for it
>>41315999This SEA creature in particular.
>>41316252Patented Niji QUALITY™ rigging.
>>41316182proof?
anons, I dont feel so good. There are too many W's from Hololive, I fear a yabe
>>41316208Irys is older than most anons think, and very much aware of idol culture
>>41316256I'll make it simple schizo. You're just retarded and huffing massive cope fumes, that's all there is to it
>>41316296its fine the EN branch generates enough trash that any good karma Hololive generates oozes out as bad in the side branch.
>>41316208Irys was going to be in Ollie's crossbranch Among Us collab before the stars dropped out of it
>>41316252She holds a teddy bear there but for some reason she defaulted without it today and only showed it towards the end.
>>41316250This. StarsJP are safe because no one thinks any western woman is gonna jump on the fucking jap streamer dick bandwagon + they have far fewer fans to rub the girl fans the wrong way. Think about it like this: even tempiss would get a lot less shit for worse than what they already do if there wasn't a horde of beggers and antis ready to declare ideological victory about any random girl interaction with them. That shit grinds people's gears and can't be overlooked as easily as the literal whos of starsjp. Can any of you look me in the eye and tell me a tempiss offcollab, even with a-chan there, would get as little shitpostin as the Oga/Bae one?
>>41316330That's the sort of nonsense that gets you blasted by Watamage for shitting on her friends.
>>41316341how fortunate
>>41316296Rushia already died for a reason
>>41316252tired from jerking me off all day
>>41316341More like the crossbranch collab changed into all girls only, stop trying to change shit
Why are sisters mad again? They got their predictable podium domination and they are still seething nonetheless.
>>41316341This was just a rrat we never got confirmation. Also IRyS goes into HomoJP chats and replies to them on Twitter fuck off.
>>41315944Yet again, you get viewers where you have streamers. If Mel streams at 1 PM and Pekora+Miko streams at 10 PM then the graph looks like that. It would look like that even if Mel had her normal CCV numbers, because it's just Mel. I'm not saying that the viewer numbers wouldn't drop, I'm saying the difference wouldn't be nearly that big. Pekora at 1 PM would beat Mel at 10 PM.The graph tells you
so how do the new niji subs look like after actually debuting? are they saved?
>>41316358so figuratively speaking Tempus has a bigger cock
>>41316404They lost cripple.
>>41316419She stopped doing that over a year ago
>>41316445She talked about aruran's redesign on stream, that was only a few months ago
>>41316404NijiEN is dying again
>>41316422You are fucking retarded. That is not sustainable at all
>>41316156You just need to look at Gura's last performance in 3D, cumpedo. More than 3k fucked off afterwards.
>>413162091.3m ccv
>>41316404NijiEN has been trained to only watch event streams. Sisters are mad that the new waves are leeching the old viewership (specifically Hex)
>>41316490she literally said she wont collab with them when askedwhy are we still having this conversation?
>>41316490Doesn't count
>>41316404>>41314476
>>41316509What does sustainable even mean here? Just get people who don't live in Japan to stream during those hours.HoloEN should be hiring Chinese English speakers to cover for the SEA slot
>>41316358Despite what some anons suggest, JP males who become vtubers aren’t always there to fuck girls. You will have your Raitos and I’m sure some hidden figures that lurk in the shadows waiting for their opportunity at some vtuber poon, but overall, Japan just doesn’t have a robust streaming market like the west. With western males, you’re probably super fucking mentally ill or a predator (or both) if you’re getting into vtubing. Why the fuck else would you be a vtuber when flesh streaming is a much more successful venture for talented guys.