/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Not dead! We are just busy

Maybe this isn’t the thread for it, but I have a fantasy of making it as a chuuba and falling in love with one of my goslings and then making him the happiest man on earth but I know it’s not possible

>>4115270
YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS AND GET GROOMED YOURSELF DON'T DO IT

>>4115270
This is a good way to accidentally end up in an abusive relationship lol

>>4115270
I have a fantasy of making it as a chuuba and falling in love with a fellow chuuba. Whether or not that love will be reciprocated, I'm unsure. But the thought is nice.

Friendly Threadly Reminder from a midtier streamer/YouTuber:

Dont bother going down this path unless you love performing and entertaining. Streaming, tweeting, etc into the void for months and even years will crush your soul if you are in it just to be liked and be watched.

it's wildly demoralizing to see no real successful male vtubers, and much more so when none of the agencies are pushing out a male vtuber. there are so many examples of successful female vtubers, but none for guys. it's all "be famous already and bandwagon into it"

>>4115806
Do you want to do it for attention, or because you think it's fun? Don't even bother if it's the first, just staple tits to your chest and go play in a kiddie pool on twitch.

>>4116249
>>4115806
Also, that blue guy that hangs out with the vshoujo girls sometimes has at least a million subscribers last I checked.

contract question - is it normal for a company to own ip/assets until the talent buys it out? seems like that way based on miori celesta & terumi but looking for some confirmation

>>4116580
>is it normal
no one knows, it's not like there's an industry best practiced guide for vtubers. it all depends on how the contract is written.

i have no idea how Miori kept her's but for Terumi, it seems like the company paid for the model and rigging, so company owns it. whether or not you can "buy out" an IP is also completely different, depending on how the contract is written. i don't know why any company would give their talents that kind of an option, because they could just leave that language out and the talent never even gets the opportunity to 'buy out' the model.

>>4116580
Most companies I've seen answer this question say they own it unless its something the vtuber owned prior (which doesn't happen often)

>>4115806
Define "successful" - I have a dedicated group of 20 or so folks that show up to every stream and total viewer numbers that can get up into the 60-70. 1k subs and 52.4K hours watched on Youtube. 850 follows and 30ish stable subs on Twitch. But none of that really matters. What matters is I'm having fun and able to continue producing content for a hobby I love. I'd qualify THAT as a success.

>>4117515
if they explicitly state you can buy out your assets, that probably means you can pull a miori, right?

Someone in the last thread mentioned they thought 3D models always looked bad. I was wondering if anyone else felt the same way, so I put together a strawpoll.
https://www.strawpoll.me/45310120
(I know content is king and that model quality varies, but in a frictionless vacuum, what is your preference?)

>>4118374
while i dont hate 3d vtubers and can watch them i just generally like the look of live2d vtubers p̶l̶u̶s̶ ̶w̶h̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶r̶t̶e̶d̶ ̶w̶a̶t̶c̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶v̶t̶u̶b̶e̶r̶s̶ ̶i̶ ̶w̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶f̶u̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶i̶d̶i̶o̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶t̶h̶o̶u̶g̶h̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶l̶i̶v̶e̶2̶d̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶s̶ ̶W̶E̶R̶E̶ ̶3̶d̶

I'm gonna debut and then get fucking huge and I'm going to cum in all the smaller vtuber's butts to assert dominance.

>>4118508
you go anon! follow your dreams!

>>4118374
I didn't vote because it depends on the quality of the model. I think a high quality 3D model is better than a high quality 2D one, but bad 3D models can look really bad compared 2D models. So personally I think 3D ultimately better, but 2D is much easier to make look good.

Thinking about giving it a try, have a character concept in mind, but don't know if it would be anything anyone would be interested in. Would anyone be interested in a vtuber that mostly reads stories to their audience?

I love reading to people and think there's something really special about being read to, but I don't know if anyone's looking to vtubers for storytime. But I figure it's something different than the endless Minecraft streams.

>>4118640
>Would anyone be interested in a vtuber that mostly reads stories to their audience?
This would be pleasent. You would need a comfy aesthetic and a gentle speaking voice. I thought about doing something similar with a cottagecore vibe

>>4118640
>Would anyone be interested in a vtuber that mostly reads stories to their audience?
what's the overlap of audiences who want a vtuber and want book readings?

>>4118640
It's a good idea and there's a few of them already, it would be cool if you can specialize in a genre. Existing readers are Arypie with sci-fi literature,
Maroony with classical literature, Tomakeys reads bedtime stories, and EggCh who is a comic book reader.

>>4118934
My thought was like, a friendly librarian type, or a professor. The idea would be mostly to be comfy and low stress.

>>4119007
Probably not large, but you never know, right?

>>4119262
whats the TOS protocol for reading content?

>>4120246
I believe people keep it to public domain stuff to be safe.

>>4119264
>friendly librarian type, or a professor
this could work. you could also do some philosophy stuff, that's a niche that hasn't been filled yet.

>>4120604
I have a poetry background, so I was thinking that could be my focus. I took a few philosophy courses in undergrad, but that was well over a decade ago, so that's a bit out of my depth at this point.

>>4118640
This sounds comfy. It could open up some unique chat interactions too, like making up a story with them and reading out the whole thing after.

>>4118640
There are volumes of choose your own adventure book series and narrative based video games if you'd like more audience interactivity.

I just got my model today, and I was wondering how to handle revealing it on social media. Is it cool to start PNGtubing with it or should I wait until the rigging's done and use it only for the debut?

>>4121536
By PNGTubing do you mean actually streaming with it? If so, as a viewer I'd be more immediately interested in watching a fully rigged model. If you just mean using it for a PNG reveal on Twitter or something, go for it.

How much would a voice coach help with building a better speaking voice? I would like to be entertaining but I have never liked how my voice sounds recorded.

>>4122441

Not liking your own voice is common even among people like trained voice actors.

It doesn't matter how awkward you feel about your own voice but how your audience finds it.

>>4113493
>/asp/
YOU DING DONG DIDDILY FUCKED UP NOW

>>4122441
I feel like you could practice on your own without having to hire a coach.

Where do you guys go for ideas on clothing for your designs?

>>4123174
well im really bad at describing things and coming up with designs so i just went with a classic Japanese school girl uniform

>>4123174
pinterest is very easy to find clothing inspirations, or even going through instagram fashion tags or something

>>4113493
>tfw Chuck E. Cheese has more followers than you ever will

>tfw you will never be able to compete with the Big Cheese

>>4123174
I just looked at outfits in video games/boorus I thought looked cool, and cobbled them together for my artist. It kinda helped that I was going for a fantasy concept so I could just scour every RPG for inspiration. For a more normal outfit pintrest is probably your best bet. (Frankly it's pretty useful for fantasy stuff too.)

>>4122441
Liking how your voice sounds recorded and having a good speaking voice are different things.
>>4122505 is right that even trained and experienced voice actors can hate the sound of their own voice.
I wouldn't recommend full on voice lessons but maybe look into a cheap acting class or two if you have a community theatre nearby. If nothing else you can look up vocal warmups and do them every day.

>>4115679
My soul is already crushed every day by my life. Being crushed for another reason would at least bring some variety, so I'm rather looking forward to it.

>>4115806
Honestly, when you consider that a big part of success of female vtubers is basically being objectified as just a "cute voice with a avatar that you can jack off to" even when they're legitimately good streamers and content creators, I wouldn't be so sure you'll want that kind of success. Male vtubers are just "unlucky" that the fujo crowd for the most part prefers real life K-Pop idols.
That said, if numbers and numbers only are the end goal, then yeah, being a male vtuber is pointless, just facecam.

>>4118640
It will find an audience if you stick to it and can do a good narration.

>>4119262
There's also tissueboy who reads manga, visual novels and sometimes horror.

>>4125041
Hey man, I'd take the numbers they pull in a heartbeat if the only drawback would be fear of being objectified for my looks and cute voice. I'd count that as a positive

>>4122441
Never expect to like your own voice. I sing professionally and I don't like my own voice that much. Now, I'm confident in my voice, and I know that other people enjoy it, so not liking my own voice doesn't bother me, but the sooner you can disabuse yourself of the idea that voice training will make you like your own voice, the better.

I'm rich!!!!
But no seriously, I've been following the advice of this place for awhile and I've found a little community (I mean mostly other vtubers as viewers but still) and I've having so much fun streaming and making stuff.
If you're html/css inclined at all I'd suggest using mixitup for layouts and events, I've gotten a lot of compliments on my layout.

>>4125196
wait is that legal?
wouldn't he get dmca'd?

>>4129626
Congrats on your first payout Anon, I'm glad you're happy with your new undertaking. How did you use html/css for your layout?

>>4113493
Was kind of thinking of this character concept for a while.
A job-to-job mercenary "warlord" in an undisclosed fictional, snowy country fighting against a fictional organization that goes by "The Federation" (I just really want to have an enemy that I can call "feds").
One of the main motiffs would be the character trying to learn how to play a guitar (I don't know how to play a guitar but would love to know how to).
Would probably focus on chill and friendly streams, kind of like vinny vinesauce.
Of course, that will never gonna happen because I am too poor AND my past yabs would surface one day or the other. How do you even deal with cancel culture?
Obviously inspired by Ace Combat and Metal Gear.
Thanks for reading my blog btw no unsubscribing.

>>4129729
I might have mixed up the question, so interpretation 1:
It's a program called mix it up, was originally a chat box for mixer, but then was updated for twitch. (Still being worked on for youtube, it's open source)

It has a million bot things, but can have 'overlays' based on things like point channel redemption, bits, and just in general. It's just hosting a web page on your browser kinda like how streamlabs chat is an obs source. However, in mixitup, you have a section where you can edit the entire html element of that overlay, so pretty much ANYTHING you can do with html/css without javascript + using some mixitup keywords like $latestsubscribedusername etc. to add content in.

interpretation 2: what did I do with it? I made a latest follower thing that is flexboxed so if I add more or less to the titles of stuff it'll automatically resize, and I turned my 'just talking' chat into something that looks like speech bubbles pointing to the huge avatar of the user. The largest downside is that cheermote, ffz, and bttv emotes are currently not supported and I can't seem to get the icons for mod/subscriber images in each text. Still need more testing, but there's so much I can do.

>Finally finish comission up with japanese artist
>Been calling them papa all this time
>Reading their latest email to me
>"I'm a lady by the way"
Why am I so fucking retarded bros

>>4130510
Nothing wrong with a lady being a papa, there are many sirs around that are mamas.

just a few episodes of the live2d tutorial and i went from "oh yeah this shouldn't be too hard" to "the fuck is he talking about, i guess that's why people pay to get that shit done"

>>4133168
There's more tutorials out there that dumb things down

>>4133168
its just time consuming. give yourself a few hours to sit down and actually do it, don't just watch the videos. there are plenty of DIYtubers even within /vt/

>artist is sick and extremely busy
>cancelling their June commissions outside two live2d ones they've already confirmed
>I'm not entirely sure if I'm one of those two, as while we've talked about the design no money was put down yet
Well now the waiting really begins.

>>4125041
isn't that basically most of the hololive girls? they already have plenty of financial success from coomerbrains who simp hard each stream. and on top of that have actual talents like Mori who releases a bunch of singles and Ame who's been doing unique vtuber stuff on par with Haachama.

best of both worlds. get tons of money from simps who objectivify you and still have the skills to be "legitimately good streamers and content creators"

>>4129626
Hey, congrats!

>>4134634
If you haven't paid, you've been crossed out of the list. I'm sorry anon.

>>4135277
I'm gonna hold out hope, but yeah its gonna be rough. Already discussed details of the design and they seemed to (earlier) confirm I got the spot, but their prices are a range since it depends on complexity. I'll just hope for now that they haven't calculated the final price since they've been sick.

>>4136037
Good luck anon. I'm just starting to research how to commission a character design, and that's fairly intimidating.

>>4115806
I just want to interact with people man but so far no one has tuned up except for a friend of mine today, I think playing and talking with strangers is the coolest thing ever but I need to figure out how to let people know I exist...so if you have friends to like yoko taro games please let them know I do

https://twitter.com/YakkoKatto

>>4139514
Put yourself forward.
Your filter is no good.

>>4139514
just off the bat, less retweets and more content tweets with hashtags. none of your livestream tweets include hashtags, just a vague "come harass me" add in tags like #envtuber, #live2d, etc. that's how people will find you

>>4139711
>add in tags like #envtuber, #live2d, etc.

fuck I'm so stupid I forgot about this, thanks

>>4124952
You're ready, my son

>>4134586
Can confirm, rigged my model myself. It may not be perfect godtier rigging, but it's pretty damn good for free. Just take your time and try a few things, make sure to understand deformer hierarchy.

>>4139514
I will be your friend nonanon

how do I collab solely with the shota/loli vtubers without looking like a pedophile

>>4140415
kek

Guys I am curious about how to set up donations and subscriptions, I know paypal can screw you over with conversions and a friend recommended Revolut instead

Also I am just starting out so I feel like it would be pretentious to have a donation button with barely any followers and views, what do you think?

>>4140991
Donation button on first stream is common enough. People either aren't interested enough to complain or will donate right away.

if they cannot answer these questions or you find the answers unacceptable, run the fuck away from any company that tries to approach you.

>>4142089

i saw a pic once, like a month ago. it was just 2 panels. featured an anime girl who was livestreaming as a vtuber and was thanking everyone who came to show up on her stream. the second panel was just of her dark and messy room while she was alone, looking at the emptiness.

for the life of me, i cannot find this pic anywhere, and don't even know how to search for it because the keywords are so broad. any anon manage to have it or know of it?

>>4142248
Is this it Anon?

>>4144365
oh shit ,that's the one. misremembered the number of panels. thanks anon.

>>4144365

oh no the poor woman has to play video games on the internet as a job from her home! the horror!

>>4144455
You have yet to understand how miserable is the life of a chuuba.
But you will

>>4144365
Made me clean up my room.

>>4115806
Misao finally got a model, but his content has always been funny as shit.

Will having a yandere schtick lock me into doing GFE/BFE stuff?

>>4144565

If you get big enough to live off streaming,not just survive, then you're doing pretty damn well.

Signed, 2 jobs and getting by.

i remember an anon asking about fitness chuubas a few weeks back, would there be any interest in a stream you could work out along to?
i'm still in the character design stage but one plan i have is to stream from my garage gym while i do stronglifts 5x5, with a write up of a bodyweight routine on screen for viewers to follow along to, targeting the same muscles i'd be targeting with each lift.

>>4146355
Aruran already does something like this, you can check out his workout streams here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu8LqGGCf44

do you guys think an english only speaker has a chance at getting hired at Cover for non-vtuber stuff? i know they're looking to expand have a bunch of positions open right now. https://herp.careers/v1/cover

>>4146355
I would definitely been interested. I started getting interested in and investing in my own fitness back when the pandemic started, so a bodyweight routine would be great.

>>4146355
That was me testing the waters to see if that niche was filled by a chuuba yet so I could fill it, haha. Yours sounds much better though, I'd watch the heck out of it.

>>4146897
>>4146355
Actually, scratch that. Reflecting upon it, it's really disingenuous of me to even think of calling myself a "fitness" chuuba, that's a seperate and higher experience entirely from what I'd be doing. Sorry if the tone sounded butthurt, haha, but yeah, I'd be down with it. What's your character concept?

>>4146799
completely forgot he did these, i hope arupapa can forgive me for being an EOP

>>4146894
sweet, thanks. now it's just a matter of getting off my ass and actually doing it

>>4146897
>>4147159
hey, you're the one who put the idea in my head, don't sell yourself short. i'm sure there'd be value in doing your own fitness streams, i'd definitely tune in or at least put the vods up during my off-stream lifts and you could be like a gym buddy (assuming you'd do actual fitness streams). i'm far from a fitness coach myself, but it'd be nice to give people a starting point, y'know? and anything is better than another fucking RFA stream
my character design is all over the place but i'm leaning towards a male yuki-onna. idk if he'd be buff, but at the very least he's not going to be a bishie twink

>>4147481
Oh wow, I didn't know anyone took my dumb posts seriously haha! Trust me I'd need all the help I can get, a gym buddy would be much appreciated in these trying times. And I'd definitely do the same for your streams as well. Especially linking the videos to see someone good at fitness performs. And a male yuki-onna character would be really neat especially if you played up the pale skin to mimic a yokai Wii Fit Trainer!

>>4147992
holy hell my sides, definitely going with wii fit trainer angle for workout streams, thanks for the laugh and idea /fit/friend. you got an idea for your own design?
remember, we're all gonna make it brah

if i started learning Japanese right now, where could i be, realistically, by the end of the year?

>>4149962
That depends on how much time you spend using it and studying it, like any other language.

>>4149962
you can get to a low n1 level (around 10k known words) if you immerse the whole day
nowhere near fluent, but you can understand and enjoy a lot of stuff in the language

>>4148817
I'm glad I could spread the joy of Wii Fit Trainer, as terrible as her game might have been! And yeah, I've got a character design, it's going to be another monsterboy, but I want it to be a surprise.

Would streaming in two languages and repeating everything in both of them be a debuff? Like Pikamee does (or did, I haven't watched VOMS since Monoe graduated so I don't know the current situation) with Japanese and English.
>>4144365
Been looking for it for about half a year too. Thanks, anon.

>>4152626
Kiara does that too, you're fine.

>>4152451
excellent, looking forward to meeting you properly maybe we can be f-friends and shill each other. best of luck on the path to chuubing!

>>4149962
N5 level probs.

>>4115806
>male Vtubers
I'm going to say it again.
in my view, Vtubing is A WOMAN'S JOB.
(sexist, i know, but do the math)

My plan is to eventually run a small trio of girls that i make a lucrative and attractive contract with
(as in, i am okay with them taking 100% of Chat money so long as i get the ends to meet on subs, merch and the like.)

>>4154835
you're gonna fail

>>4154835
sounds like a red flag warning for another black company

I mean if I was an oil baron I would probably start a vtuber company for shits.

>>4154835
This is pimping but with more steps, higher risk, and less reward. Also leave.

>>4154835
this is the most ngmi post in this whole thread

>>4154835
Your view is dumb, and your entire 'business model' is being a leech.

>>4153557
Same to you Anon! I-I wouldn't mind being friends.

>>4154835
Ever worked in entertainment industory? Or maybe management experience? If not NGMI.

>>4155982
They haven't even said what they'd provide to the vtubers, so I assume its more a "I want someone else to do the work and I just rake in money" situation.

>>4156155
aka they're one of the 99% of "vtuber agencies"

>>4115270
I'm the gosling

Does it make sense to start a character Twitter before I've got my character art and live2d rig ready to go? Or wait until I've got at least an image of the character?

>>4159770
just start, scribble something with MS paint if you must.

https://youtu.be/-XAaaB7OzXA
has anyone considered something like this? I have been voice training using transgender methods for a while now, I am getting pretty convincing, people on overwatch think im a girl and I havent been "called out" in weeks now.
I think I will give vtubing a shot within the next couple of months.

>>4163668
Trapping isn't something you should be proud of. You will never be a real girl.

>>4163836
and you will never get more than 10 concurrent viewers as a >male vtuber

>>4129762
Sounds eerily similar to someone else's character concept floating around here for a while, but instead a girl that's injured after a horrible accident.

I guess you and her could set up a vtuber mini group if this theming keeps up.

>>4163836
what gives you the idea I want to be a real girl? are you stupid?

i genuinely have no idea what to post to twitter

>>4164585
I get your point but you picked way too low of a number there, a lot of males /here/ get 10 viewers pretty regularly

How would I apply textures/patterns to the clothing of a Vroid avatar? Say, if I wanted to apply this pattern (assuming I had a better photo of it up close), how would I go about putting it onto the clothing, so it isn't just plain white? I know I could color it myself, but I don't have as steady a hand as I need for that. I don't have photoshop

>>4146873
read the job description anon, you have to live in tokyo and speak business japanese

>>4166240
>read the job description anon
anon i don't know about you, but just going off contextual clues, i don't think that anon can read japanese

>>4165938
Export the base clothing texture (and grid) and overlay the texture in an image editing program (don't leave the grid layer on)

What's the worst that can happen from using a decade old mmd model from an anime if I have no intention on making any money?

>>4166527
your youtube channel gets DMCA'd with 1 strike per video and you get banned off youtube. same with twitch. doubtful that anyone would care to file a lawsuit against you. much easier to just file a DMCA take down with the main streaming websites and get you banned instead.

>>4166479
Do you know of any good tutorials?

>>4166556
Well that doesn't sound good, I figured since there's other videos with that model on youtube without any issues and I'm not making any money it'd be fine

>>4167209
absolute worst case scenario is you get sued, but that's really unlikely. getting banned is more likely. but if there's another channel that's using the same model, then it's likely that whoever owns it hasn't put the model or its likeness into youtube's Content ID database (which means Youtube isn't scanning videos looking for it), so you'll probably be fine.

but why risk it when you can buy a cheapo model off Booth with commercial license already available?

Slugma on rebranding:
https://youtu.be/bCIIFgVI7-M?t=1901

RIP Ysande and Floof and all those drastic rebranders.

>>4168652
probably a good play from Terumi for having a throwaway identity and then reincarnating fairly quickly. less of a "rebrand"

If I play video game music as background music, will I get in any sort of trouble other than a VOD mute or some sort of demonetization?

>>4170413
Depends on what it is, if you use obscure VGM you won't get anything for it. But yeah it'll be a VOD mute and demonization, and at worst it'll be whatever weird shit is going on at Twitch now.

>>4170413

I saw your comment and decided to stop here.

Please don't. Don't even attempt it because you never know who owns what rights for various songs. See the Cyberpunk kerfuffle, they had 1 song which wasn't streamer-friendly and boom, hell on earth.

Unless the Developer+Publisher specify that you can use parts of the game independently from the game, DO NOT use VGM.

>>4171649
this, this so many times. i've seen a few yt people banned for recording gacha footage and needing to replace the game's bgm with something else because the company was DMCAing its own fucking content

>>4170413
Just use royalty free music or go the insane route and create your own music to stream to.

>>4152626
Even Pika started out mostly speaking JP. Finding your niche an making it clear that you're multiligual can do a lot though. The ID streamers and all the vtubers who found out how much of a boost doing one or two spanish duolingo streams give are proof enough.

>>4146355
I know Kasukabe Tsukushi has done strength training streams. She has a 3d rig and full body tracking to make it interesting but I don't know if the content is as detailed as yours. Making it nerd accessible might make for a good niche too.

This is a horrid thing to ask: Anyone know of /asp/ies or chuubas who clearly didn't make it? Who dared to climb and turned back? Who tried and failed? I want to learn of the bad and good examples.

>>4171854
I can tell you that a lot of people should seriously consider backending their gimmicks unless they're certain that they are at a professional entertainment level. Feels like people who were previously never interested in streaming until vtubers showed up are holding themselves up to the standards of entertainment companies who can afford to hire talent, or have been doing it for years.
I don't want to say that everyone who does this is doomed to fail, but I've seen a lot of otherwise charming people drop it because of small things like technical issues piling up, or because Hololive Pekora doesn't have scuff and doesn't break character so they shouldn't either.

>>4172043
Do you think people quit too early before they can reach their full potential, as nebulous as a metric as that may sound?

>>4172605
If you go look at the old content of any streamer or youtuber it's all awkward and/or poorly shot/recorded, so as nebulous as it is, yes. There are some people who just aren't entertaining but generally if you learn and improve at your faults, like any skill, you will start to see results in streaming.

>>4172043
>Pekora <...> doesn't break character
FFS Pekora broke character hard in the beginning and continued streaming with what is comfortable for her.

>>4172657
What do you think are the best tips to keep a streamer persevering through their work? I know there are different factors involved such as difficult/changing life situations, work, and health problems, but is there any advice you think that could help vtubers on the verge of quitting?

>>4172955
Have fun and make it relaxing for yourself. If you can manage both of those, you can persevere through most things that you put stress and effort into.
>>4172798
I was just using Pekora as an example of someone popular with a clear gimmick. My point is just why be strongly attached to a gimmick as your draw when most people stream with the setting as background dressing and their normal personality is in the forefront?

Is there a vtubers that just creates content? Not streaming? How successful would that be? I don't think I have the time for that.

>>4173502
If you want to "just create content" and be successful without any more time investment, you'll probably won't be successful. Promoting yourself requires a lot of commitment, and without that chances to be noticed are slim regardles of how good said content is.
Besides, making videos and whatnot also requires time investment, likely even more than streaming.

>>4173502
>>4173612
Creating content as a vtuber takes up more time than just streaming since polishing your video into something that's quality enough to attract viewers is difficult in and of itself.

>>4173612
>>4173816
Good point, but unlike streaming, I can work on videos while I'm at work. I work 12 hour shifts. I don't have time to stream when I get home. What I can do at work tho is edit videos the regular YouTube content creator way.

>>4173502
I wish there would be more video-based vtubers, but the format does appear to be dead these days, even though this is how it all originally started.

>>4173911
If you're able to do so at your workplace then go for it. You can even go the expressive PNG route if you want to put out content the fastest.

What's more important in a karaoke? A good performance or sheer energy & hype? Asking so I know how much alcohol to buy.

>>4174113
Both. Even if you're high energy, if you're a truly dreadful singer, only very devoted fans will watch. If you're a great singer with no charisma, no one will really care either.

But if you can carry a tune and are fun, you should be good.

super late but moky is playing some binding of isaac
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yn8sxLwoWg

To those chuubas with jobs, what got you into streaming? Did you do it because you found it entertaining or is there an end goal in mind for this? How have you managed to balance your career in tandem with streaming?

>>4172955
Remember that putting yourself out there is the hardest thing to do. Simply taking the step of turning on the camera in the first place is more than every critic and hateful contrarian anon will ever do.

As for tips try your damndest to view yourself as a viewer, see yourself for the first time. If you aren't getting viewers literally watch yourself as though you're a stranger and ask what parts you can emphasize of your character to be more entertaining/engaging and what you do that's not interesting or just boring. Edit yourself with the mentality that Dead Air = Nightmare. Whittle it down. Also look up acting videos because while you're not """acting""" with a script research how to embody your character (even if it's you) and emote, gesture, indicate with voice, timing, etc.

>>4118640
juniper just started doing this

https://youtu.be/hV6wkFAdzzE?t=757

Okay I'm super nervous but also super excited. I got my png and reference sheet made awhile ago. Got my stream all set up and I've been practicing recording and watching my recordings to catch my mistakes. I bit the bullet and went ahead and bought a 2d model from a really good artist off fiverr, they even gave me a discount to rig it since my model is simple enough to make.

>>4175371
I've streamed before but I'm trying again as a chuuba. both times with full time jobs, for me personally I just enjoy talking with people and being able to entertain the general public. I don't plan on making it big or anything because I'm pretty down to earth but at the same time as a chuuba I prefer it because then people will find out less about me irl.

>>4176591
I'm rooting for you Anon

>>4175980
huh, readalongs are a lot more common than I expected. I fear for my niche.

I just got into Vtubing and I’m wondering how Snuffy got so popular. AFAIK, she didn’t have a big following before Vtubing, right? Did she just network well enough before debuting via chatting up popular chuubas and artists?

>>4179821
I've actually never heard of Snuffy until some clips about her redesign.

>>4179821
Snuffy got popular because her 3D model was something most normie vtuber watchers hadn't seen before, and it was rigged and tracked using some fancy software for some admitedly fantastic facial expressions. Top that off with her being an absolute fucking degenerate that generates more clippable material for clip channels to profit off of and bam; Snuffy is now popular.

I'm not a huge fan of Snuffy, but it sucks to see her using 2D over 3D. Her rig is pretty awesome, and I want to see more Vtubers do that kind of thing.

https://www.twitch.tv/hnzw_eerika
herbata hyena

>>4179821
She was a cat Vtuber for most her career that blended in with the crowd. Then she got a face tracking software that let her do all kinds of things like pucker her lips and make a wide array of facial changes that other Vtubers simply couldn't do.
There was a very short golden age where she both had this model and was doing "The Snuffy Voice" which is a high pitched girly voice, and during this overlap she grew dramatically fast.
Following this though she dropped the voice entirely and because her voice was slightly deeper than the fake one, people threw themselves upon her literally begging her to say Ara Ara so much that the next few months was nothing but talking about how she was nervois about exposing her real voice and saying shit in a normal tone and watching people lose their minds over it.
Now she's fallen into being pretty generic. People are getting over the voice stunt and seeing that their mommy raccoon wasn't actually that mommy after all, and her 2D debut didn't have half the impact of the 3D one. She mostly just watches tiktoks and has fallen out of relevance because the attraction to streamers being "Real" by unveiling their actual voices was always a fleeting fad. Her clips have dropped from 300k to about 20k, and new clips roll out slower than ever. Nobody is all that shocked.

How many of you are ultra boomers when it comes to this shit? Do you have a lot of trouble figuring out the technical side of vtubing? Do you have friends/a community that helps you out?

>>4181685
i've just been pngtubing while waiting for commission slots for live2d. a lot less moving parts. there are also some vtuber discords, like the official vtube studio (twitter link so you can be sure it's legit and not some sketchy direct discord link) https://twitter.com/VTubeStudio where people talk about some tech and support issues.

what kind of stuff do you need figuring out?

>>4181685
There's too many resources to be uninformed these days. Maybe a year ago finding out the resources and stuff would have been hard, but everyone and their mother streams now so just google it.

PNGTube and see if you can generate any interest, if that goes well upgrade to a Live2D.

>>4181742
Eh, was mostly just curious. I have too many questions to ask here I think. Like, I've been considerin swappin over to 3D with at least upper body tracking. I have a lot of ideas for videos and shit but my L2D kinda limits what I can do. But I wouldn't know where to start.
Checkin out discord servers is a good idea tho, didn't think of that, thanks man.

>>4181768
Yeah there's resources everywhere I agree. I think I'm just retarded and get lost in just how much info there is to go through, if that makes sense. But yeah I already do L2D.

>set up paypal business account
>link it to my streamlabs
>try to donate myself
>error

FUCK
is it because the paypal account is new? it says I can accept money but donations I test keep getting charged back automatically by the bank

>>4175091
>>4181301
FUCK i thought this was /wvt/ for a hot sec
i'm sorry folks

>>4115270
Reclusive neets have a very hard time finding other reclusive neets, so this, basically women signalling online that they're reclusive neets to 1k men like insects in breeding season, might actually work.

>>4181685
Tech side no. I'm a boomer but I've been using computers all my life. Now the culture side I have no idea how these zoomer fucks do it.

>>4185234
I'm in the same boat. Mid 30s, no tech issues, but memes come and go so fast these days, leaves me confused.

Is a mixer required for streaming or is it just for convenience?

>>4186007
convenience

Would a good gimmick for content be to learn stuff on stream?
Do you think it would be fun to watch someone learn random skills each stream?

>>4186388
Duolingo streams are definitely a buff.

How safe are payments via paypal? can I get doxxed?

When (or pessimistically, if) I hit affiliate, can I somehow set it up so the money goes towards a charity rather than myself.

I don't want to get paid and go through all that legal crap involed in setting up a business and taxes and Devil knows what else. Is it possible so the money goes straight to a charity and doesn't touch my hands? The other benefits of affiliate sound fun enough.

>>4187363
it reveals your full name and address when you donate.
>>4187394
probably, but why not just not monetize?

A big question I can’t wrap my head around is, how to find a niche? For example, a character (say, an alien) is already a niche.
People with education in marketing say to picture the ideal customer, but I have trouble understanding what other people want. Is there a practical algorithm to look for a niche and determine you found one? So far all I can think of is youtube keyword searches and sullygnome, but I think those only reflect trends, not long term niches one could explore.

>>4192941
>For example, a character (say, an alien) is already a niche.
character design is not a niche. people don't come to your streams for your character design. they come for your content.

>>4193557
Well, what is content? The jokes? The information? Speedrun reviews? Challenges?

>>4195000
no one fucking knows and /wvt/ is in another timeloop about what "content" means.

>>4175371
full time job, but wfh the past year has made it much easier. i limit myself to only streaming 3 or so times a week max.

i actually started streaming just because i made a model for fun and wanted to use it, and wanted to play my backlog games. i ended up really enjoying streaming and talking to people!

going on 7 months soon. no end goal, just a fun hobby! i get decent viewership/chatters and thats more than enough for me

>>4175371
I do have a full time job, but it's not really a field that I'm interested in or want to continue in. Streaming to me is a fun hobby, but I'd like to someday be in voice acting, or maybe casting.
My job has a regular schedule so I usually just stream after work or on weekends.

>>4193557
I agree, if designs like Ninaninin can make it then definitely design isn't a (meaningful) factor.

>>4199184
Let me tell you now, voice acting is a very hard profession to get into, you need connections. People like Nyanners are where they are now because they fucked up at the amateur va stage

>>4203861
How do you screw up at an amateur va stage

>>4205177
cut a lot of bridges

How much interest do you all have in someone who would read classic video game magazines and talk about what life was like in gaming back then, sort of like a contextual history lesson?

I've done this a couple of times in the past and it seemed to go over well, but i'm just curious what you all would think about it

>>4205489
Hell I'd watch that even if you weren't a vtuber

>>4206180
Oh that's good to hear
Typically I'll read early 90s Nintendo Power and Gamepro. The week of the Mortal Kombat movie I read the Gamepro issue talking about the 1993 console launch of MK1, it was fascinating. I'll do more than just read; if a game is odd or the magazine gave an unfitting score, I'll pull up a long play about it, or some other history video and watch along with chat

It's really a good time honestly

>>4205489
only if your gimmick is being a 90's kid that got teleported to 2021
just kidding that sounds pretty neat either way

>>4206795
I time traveled

The long way

opinions on making a discord for this stuff?

>>4207169
there already is one

>>4207266
could i get an invite?

vtubers who whole gimmick is that their a sentai team.

>>4207614
this would unironically make it

>>4207614
that'd just basically be colorful hololive

>>4207614
as long as it's more After-V and less Ranger Reject I'm down for watching that

does anyone have an active discord invite link? the past ones are expired

>>4207876
thought the server owner wasn't accepting new invites for the time being because trolls from the back office and /wvt/ were trying sneak in and take screenshots and shit

>>4207890
any idea if theres anyone in specific i could add and dm beforehand to see if i can get an invite thru there?

>>4207962
no clue, only if there were some way to confirm the anon with a twitter or twitch account proper to make sure no trolls try anything.

>>4207988
huge swearword

why are western babiniku so afraid of voice training?
are they scared of being seen as trannies?

>>4208133
sounds like you don't know what a babiniku is

>>4208133
>are they scared of being seen as trannies
then... then why would they use a...

>>4187363
Use streamlabs

>>4208265
streamlabs uses paypal

hey bros. if i'm making song covers as well, what do i need to properly mix vocals?
sorry that this is a vague question, i sing but i've never really recorded my singing to post so don't know where to start.

>>4207962
there's a couple of people known to be part of the /asp/cord if you look around wvt so you could probably dm one of them
you could probably dm someone from this list and they're probably there: >>4186441

>>4208490
you could do really simple mixing and editing in audacity; the person who mixed my covers used a program called melodyne which is really good for tuning vocals but is also balls expensive

>>4208791
do you have any covers youre willing to share?

>>4209100
editing by a mixer: https://youtu.be/GJY4vl1FgrY
editing by me in audacity: https://twitter.com/ElliottAmbers/status/1396951600355319811?s=20

>>4208133
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

>>4208152
>>4209415
So why are voice changers fine, but not just making your voice sound female without software?
Can you actually explain?

>>4209415
>>4208152
>>4208187
so you really are just scared people will think you're a tranny? no wonder every /asp/ vtuber is NGMI

>>4209670
why would someone thats scared of being seen as a trans use a female avatar you fucking retard

>>4209744
because they are in denial, just like most hardcore transphobes.
every single western babiniku has the same act. no alterations to voice, too many sex jokes, says they are "just doing it for a laugh".
the only babiniku I watched who I thought were good, ended up being actual trannies.

must be a slow day in the back desk

>>4209413
As someone with experience in studio mixing, the mixer did not do a good job

>>4209877
So the only good western babiniku you've seen aren't babiniku then? I'm pretty sure most people don't want to do that because it just makes you sound like a guy trying to put on a cutesy girl voice when that's an immediate turn off for most audiences. Some people can make it work but why put in the effort to find out if you're one of them if you could just talk normally, or talk normally but with a voice changer? Enough male ENvtubers sound fruity and effeminate as is.
People also just want to do their thing without assholes like you coming in and starting shit about whether they're trans or just insecure as well. It's fucking obnoxious.

>>4210589
kinda weird to compare someone with actual experience versus a brand new beginner just trying something out

>>4210621
I apologize if that was his attempt at mixing, I thought by that message he had someone hired to do that. If I can make any recommendations, raise the volume of the voice, it may be possible to EQ the excess noise, and in addition to the reverb, add a slightly delay effect and chorus effect (keep that wet knob low)

>>4210619
so what you are saying is, there are no babiniku because western vtubers dont put in any effort? sounds about right to me

>>4210689
the yt link was the one that was not mixed by me, you are correct. it was however mixed by a friend who i'm sure wouldn't mind the criticisms/tips on the mixing
the twitter link was me singing and then slapping eq, compression, and reverb on in audacity

>>4210737
Are there many bigger names than Itou Life, beatMARIO, Tomari Mari, and fucking Nekomasu as far as babiniku go right now? Only one of those uses a voice changer, and he doesn't even hide that he's just a guy either, so I'm back on just assuming you don't know what babiniku means.

>>4210746
Ah, I was talking about the YouTube video, I'll send Elliot Ambers a message
As for Audacity, don't be afraid to cut your voice clips right when you've let your last sound out, I recommend not using audacity's compression, and going by leveling your voice to the audio first.

The criteria for being a babiniku is just a guy that uses a female model. That's literally it. It doesn't matter if they attempt to change their voice or not, or call themselves a femboy. If you're a guy using a female model, regardless of your kayfabe, you are a babiniku by default. They're only trans if they present themselves as such, then they cease being a babiniku.

>>4210854
anon you dont understand. I want more babiniku who are actually entertaining and funny, everybody is too scared to do it.
>>4210947
this is what I mean. too many just use a female model and act like its all a joke they are not serious about. there is not any I truly enjoy watching, even though I really like japanese babiniku.

is there a way to include both Youtube and Twitch links in your twitter?

>>4206795
Someone please do this and only play 90s games

Just pretend you found a wacky science thing that lets you stream.
The model is a vroid in an orange hoodie. And their name is Kidd radicool

Do you talk to yourself or maybe pretend you're talking to an audience even when there's nobody watching the stream?

>>4211138
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>>4211169
Oh yeah. Stream as if, at any time, someone might show up.

>>4211169
yeah, i pretty much never stop talking. don't want a viewer to hop in and see you just silently playing video games. even worse because i'm pngtubing.

>>4211015
If you want people to be entertaining and funny then what does that have to do with voice training unless you mean that you just want to laugh at men who think they sound like girls? You don't like it when people just say "hah look at me I look like a girl" but you're fine with "hah look at me I look and sound like a girl"?
I agree that the first thing being their entire schtick would be obnoxious but would just adding the voice honestly make the personality behind that better?

>>4211201
I am already a chuuba who is pretty attached to my character.
If I picked up another character I might be stretched too thin.

>>4211267
you dont get it anon... this is why you are NGMI....
try it yourself, here is what you do. download vroid, just use the default girl avatar... and see how you feel inside after watching yourself move on camera

>>4113493
Today i made a streaming while trying to record at the same time with a potato laptop...
Never do that my fellow aspies i beg you

>>4212347
I could've told you that Anon. If my potato laptop were capable of streaming I would've had a very different design and outlook for my vtubing aspirations.

>>4212347
take the retsu pill and locally record and upload to youtube

>>4212436
Okay gonna try do that! Thanks anon
Youtuba can delete my ass if i use a recording with animal crossing music btw?

>>4212480
yes

>>4212417
I feel you anon, im consedering using veadotube for streaming and a mspaint avatar... and doing artwork with mspaint too lmao
I fucking hate being broken hahaha

>>4212436
Do people watch those? I haven't been streaming because my internet sucks but I've got some practice recordings just lying around...

>>4212510
mspaint art is always charming

>>4212958
shill them in /wvt/ and on twitter, some people might check it out. at the least it's a way for you to get streaming practice in.

drawing and rigging your own live2d is fucking hard bros...

>>4116580
Asset ownership is a legal issue first and foremost. Companies (especially entertainment companies) will always prefer to own everything IP related because it makes the process of sourcing and licensing easier for them to handle. While it gives them control over the life of a talent because they are dependent on keeping the job to keep access to their content, it also means that they will be liable to handle any legal or financial issues that arise as a result of said IP being their possession, thus becoming a shield for the talent. If the company faces legal/financial problems, the talent isn't liable or responsible for anything regarding the company.

If a talent wants acquire the IP, it is also a simple matter since they would be dealing only with the company as the IP holder. In this case, the talent needs to make sure that they have the ability to acquire the IP given that the requirements to do so are met. A company is not going to invest money only to end up being swindled out of IP weeks down the line, and a talent wants to have the ability to either negotiate or earn the IP that they were involved in creating.

No one wants a Taylor Swift situation.

Yes, the answer is yes. It is normal for companies to own IP. VTubers are not the exception either.

https://youtu.be/HiAXzcs0wXg
Is this what /asp/ means when they say create good content?

>>4213482
i don't want to waste 35 minutes of my life listening to someone trying to sell their "streaming course" what's the tl:dw?

>>4213519
Basically she says value is when you fand a specific target audience and you transform their problem somehow. Transform can be one of five things: information, entertainment, motivation, relationship and relatability. So, the viewer should feel like your video has somehow helped them with whatever they were struggling with, be it boredom, loneliness, or just a technical question

>>4213701

Then yes I would agree, and you want to aim for entertainment and relatability as a vtuber. Information and motivation niche will trap you into being a sort of self-help conman if you want to incline. Focus on relationship and you'll become a creepy parasocial groomer like dream

>>4213482
I don't know what that video says or what the hell /asp/ suggests, but the general rule of thumb to making the REAL kind of quality content is to make it evergreen.
Dating yourself by making pop culture jokes, espousing political opinions and creating reviews/letsplays of movies/comics/books/games isn't particularly evergreen content.

>>4213896
what the hell is evergreen

>>4213972
stuff that will remain watchable regardless of time

>>4213519
>Stop being variety streamers and narrow down your content to appeal and attract a specific audience
>Figure out what your audience and provide content that fulfills their needs and brings value to their lives, whether that's: education (Woyde, Elliot, Arthur), entertainment* (Bat, Koopa, Vel) [*caveat that people doing this need to have extremely high charisma and personality to compete due to oversaturation], motivation (Kongou), relationships* (Nina) [*inherently all chuubas do this, but this is for the ones who excel in fostering a community and forming connections), or relatability* (Terumi) [*tenuous due to it being a subset between entertainment and relationships with to the audience wanting to find someone to relate and vicariously live through].
>Make sure to know when the content that you're able to do should be delivered in multiple formats, like audio, video, writing, or livestreaming.

>>4214002
>>4213701
thanks anons

>>4213972
Anon, you're reading reps...

>>4213972
Guides are one evergreen type. Anything that answers a “how to” or a “what is” type of question. Of course, that requires you know what you are talking about

>>4214015
>>4214045
is this even english

Good "evergreen" content
- skilled karaoke
- highlights and clips of exciting moments in games
- relatable zatsudans
- educational and informational content
- reaction videos of dumb shit that's funny

Bad "evergreen" content
- transient memes
- amongus game play (fun in the moment, but no one will go through and watch the vod aside from clips)
- multiple hours of apex gameplay (any game really, only fun in the moment, not so much as a vod)
- "reviews" (video game and anime reviews only relevant for a year before the next one comes out)

basically, ask yourself, if you make this video, will someone want to watch it 1 month from now? 6 months? 1 year?

for example, kurzgesagt and vinesauce are pretty much peak 'evergreen' informational content, tens of thousands of views across a multitude of videos even 4-5 years after they were originally uploaded. each day, someone falls down the bite-sized education rabbit hole and watches their videos.

on the other hand, how many people are going back and watching LinusTechTip reviews of the GPUs that were released in 2017?

>>4214002
Extremely high quality post. For non-Vtuber charisma example timthetatman is someone to check out. He’s okay at fortnite but a fun character.

To clarify on the charisma part (personal opinion): you need to confidently and consistently embody your character. Saturation may see daunting, but if you prepare a character that has a lot of varied prompts to react to what is going on on stream, you’ll have a high chance of making it.

This pastebin said it well about consistency:
https://pastebin.com/eGzG2CFA

>>4213972
Making original music
Making original art
Singing
Modeling
Teaching
Sharing life experience
<instert showcase of any other skill here>
Making anything original while streaming it could be considered type of evergreen content. Doubly so if you're doing something that people are largely unaware of. Like showing a pipeline of Blender shader creation.
However this is only 50% of its power.
The real thing comes into play when you make something both evergreen, entertaining AND unique.
Think mario retardy/vidya wrestle/saltybet
Think "Twitch plays <x>".
>>4214080
Do you even know what "evergreen" originally means? Can you not put words "evergreen" and "content" alongside each other and just read it?

>>4214080
Anon how do you have the reading comprehension of a five year old, what he's saying is not at all difficult to parse through.
>Make a product that will have longevity long after it's been released. Make something that people will want to see no matter what time they've stumbled upon it.

>>4214146
Or, another good way to do personality is to have fun and not be afraid to show it. Be excited about what you do, people like that.

>>4214146
Thanks Anon! I've been trawling through Twitch marketing and business videos for a month and a half now but I feel as though this video solidifies some of the key aspects of putting together a well thought out brand that would benefit a lot of chuubas if they're taking streaming seriously

>>4214148
>>4214159
im an esl alcoholic neet sorry...

>>4214211
It shows

>>4214205

Just be careful not to get to deep into these "tutorials" on how to succeed as a streamer. Ten hours of actual streaming will teach you more than wasting a thousand hours watching every single "how to get your first 100 followers on twitch" video on youtube.

2 months and nothing from the artist i comm'd I kinda felt bad seeing their timeline with sob stories but they are delivering a lot of the other comms when i dm'd them the same day they pulled another sob story

>>4215125

Did you pay already? I'd say after 2 months it isnt rude to send a polite email asking for a quick update on the status of your commission.

>>4215150
i paid in full already yea, I mostly also picked them as they were "scammed" before (they got commd, client didn't pay) i guess i shouldn't have

>>4213482
This is a good resource and worth a watch if you don’t understand what valuable content is.

>>4215242

If you paid in full I think you deserve at least a progress report after 2 months. No need to be anxious I'm sure you'll get your comm, some artists just work at a slower pace

>>4215125
Why didn't you ask for a time estimate? In this case can you lend me like 200 bucks? I'll give them back to you. But y'know, eventually.

>accidentally permanently deleted automesh generator basic setting in live2d editor
oops guess that wont work anymore

>>4215315
i dmd them on twitter and after hours they're having a mental breakdown on their timeline so I'm not too sure about that

>>4215423

ouch, thats why i avoid menheras

lesson learned I guess?

>>4215423
>commission some mentally unstable artist
>don't ask for any kind of timeframe or guarantees
>pay in full
>only start worrying after 2(two!) months of absolutely zero response
Retardchama, I.....

>>4215461
if i can find a japanese character designer i wont give a shit about this comm honestly

>>4215493
i deserve all of this yes, i was being too nice

>>4215125
>2 months and nothing from the artist i comm'd I kinda felt bad seeing their timeline with sob stories
Either DIY it or come to the discord and have a bunch of people crowdbuild your thing.

>>4215539

Too late to say this, but next time remember to check if the Artist's Terms of Conditions specifically declare if they allow revisions (if not, abuse by being "unsatisfied") and how many times they will update and let you know the work in progress

That artist you mentioned is your usual unprofessional emotional wreck artist type

If they call out on you after you call on them, call them out by asking "politely if they could let you AT THE VERY LEAST stay updated after waiting for fricking 2 months when you see them doing commissions for everyone else"

If they say they are overwhelmed by how many commissions they have, you can go for two option of actions :
1) Bluff (or maybe truly) to offer to raise your commission price by tipping and tell them to raise their prices in the future so (they stop bitching) and you have the "reputation" of being a reasonable commissioner if you really go for this course of action
2) The most risky action is to ask for a refund or at least a future bonus ticket discount for a next commission if they already splurged your money (on their bills, rent, whatever)

And I'm speaking as an artist myself.

>>4215602
money isn't an issue for me i just wanted it to be done

>>4215125
I would want a refund or a proof that at least something was done about my commission. (I wouldn't count a just a sketch with flat colour after two months of waiting) if they try guilt ripping you into not getting a refund, then that will mean you won't get your artwork in the next 3 months either or ever, they are just scamming you.

Twitter loves making up sob stories for their "woe is me", but commission is a commission. Would you be able to not show up at work for 2 months because of mental breakdowns?

>>4215539
Artists prey on people like you.
You can't give them an inch, really, unprofessional ones treat you like a pal to sucker you into this shit when you are a CLIENT to their SERVICE.
Do whatever it takes to get what you ordered, or equal value back, and then never go to them again, and let them know why.

>>4215539
is it too late to ask your bank/payment processor to cancel the payment for failure to deliver? if it's not, give him an ultimatum: one week or you cancel.
will he be able to do it if he crunches? probably.
will he spend all his time on twitter crying about it instead? most likely.

>>4215602
can you send the invite to the discord?

Guys I need help finding a BGM that sounds good. I've looked through dova syndrome's stuff and can't seem to find anything that fits.
Looking for something kinda creepy but not excessively serious.

>>4216410
penis music

>>4216410
just do what i did anon make your own
https://www.soundtrap.com/

>>4216410
>I've looked through dova syndrome's stuff and can't seem to find anything that fits.
No you didn't.
Learn how to use tags.
Also stop fucking lying.

If I was to ever make a Vtuber, Id be a Daft Punk inspired robot
With a light voice mod for the robotic feel

https://youtu.be/KFdM1m7DKXI?t=1616
>Afraid of failure so you don't try
>Afraid you're not good enough so you don't try
Any chuubas here that can relate to this?

>>4217695
Look mate, you watch streams, right. Fucking go and stream for no one. Then look at. Then ask yourself, how could it be better? You’ll know how to fix it.

If it makes you feel better, the failures are those who don’t do it at all.

>>4215125
Screenshot everything and file a refund with Paypal now. Don't fucking reply to this. Go file that refund. I've seen this exact song and dance from scammers before. You will never receive the end product. They're literally just banking on the fact they can stall you with sob stories long enough that you won't be able to file a complaint with Paypal.

>>4217695
if you let fear control you then your not gonna get anywhere in life anon

>>4217695
Anon, you never know if you don't try! It's always better to at least try it instead of regretting that you never tried it.

>>4217695
Step 1: get rid of those fears. Off you go.

>>4217695
Being brave means being scared but doing it anyways. So do it. There's genuinely no downside.

>>4212510
Btw this is veadotube mini anons, i found it exploring google some days ago

https://olmewe.itch.io/veadotube-mini

>>4216410
Peritune perhaps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lozgm28dAo
https://peritune.com/freematerial_list/

>>4217695
Yes of course failure is scary. Yes the thought of not being good enough is scary. You feel the fear and do it anyway.

>>4219822
Thanks Anon!

Just had a silly idea
Has anyone ever tried to make a vtuber who is invisible?

>>4229591
Like as in just barely noticeable outlines and floating clothes?

>>4229624
Floating clothes

>>4229646
what would be the point of watching a streamer that has zero visible emotion?

>>4229672
Dunno it just feels silly

>>4224304
Thank you so much anon! Some of these are just what I was looking for.

>>4115806
I think it's just cuz male vtubing in general is still in its infancy. I did see one male JP vtuber with around 800k subs so its definitely possible but could potentially take time.

>>4230388
>JP
i wish anons would stop bringing up JPs as an example of how a male vtuber can be successful. they have completely different societal cultures and that won't work if you just brought it over to the west.

>>4230745
>>4230745
>>4230745
new

>>4229672
A bunch of old American cartoons had a thing with ghosts where they used the clothes to emote and make faces with. So with an invisible character but you have clothes floating in the air? The clothes would scrunch up to make faces.