/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>41066547
You forgot to mention she’s
>Asian
>hot
>Mating press

>slowly becoming more otaku through correction
Also mating press

>>41066547
i have lots of problems with the girls but not being weeb enough is not one of them
even the former twitch thot egirls have been in the game for so long they are all proper weeaboos now. trying to argue that they are normie speaks more about you than them.

She's just a zoomer. Society has failed her.

>>41066612
>hot
Lma

>>41066547
that's what makes her interesting tbdesu

>>41066612
>Hot
Lmao no

>>41067063
>>41067101
Thank you for informing everyone you're faggots

>>41066547
>makes entertaining content
>has good banter with the girls
>isn't afraid of trying out new stuff
>very dedicated to her fanbase
Your point?

>>41066612
fpbp

bruh

>>41067081
She just another twitch ethot then?

>>41067063
>>41067101
Either Faggots or jealous roasties

>>41066547
She's just like me except female, Asian and a third my age.

>>41066547
>speaks JP
>speaks KR
Totally normal languages to learn for a normie.

>>41067313
u rite

>>41067313
Need to make her my wife

>>41066547
EN management showed how incompetent it actually-is with Council from the getgo, it was such a fucking shock getting these from what they went with for Myth and how Myth carried themselves that at least personally I realized immediately something had gone fucking amazingly astoundingly wrong. Then they introduced Omega at the end of the debuts and it all clicked.

I don't dislike all Councils, but, they definitely could have done better. Also OP don't forget Bae:
>is a textbook basic bitch, doesn't really seem to have any intensity about her or real passion/care/interest in much, is a walking NPC bugman of a person
>is given the role of the 'aspect of chaos' in a gen where, remember, they actually-thought lore was what people "wanted" and that it was supposed to be a big focus.

then again this is the same management who also said people "demand" more holostars too so basically nothing at all they say is worth jack shit as they unironically ask the yesmen what to do for market research and so game the system to do whatever they want. I'd trust the opinions of an intern getting yagoo's coffee over anyone in EN management.

>>41067472
Isnt she like 21

>>41067535
>barely speaks it kind of Ina-ish
>doesn't actually speak it, just wants to learn it because she's a kpop retard

not really. nothing about her really gives that "one of us" vibe in the slightest. she's just some normalfag who gigglesqueed over holostars and cares about them probably 10x more than hololive itself.

>>41066547
Yeah who would ever do that?

>>41067668
Most female vtubers are normalfags that jumped in the wagoon when it started becoming popular.

>>41067668
Lol you don't know anything about Bae yet you're here seething over her.

>>41066547
>total normie
Stopped right there, watch streams or go outside, you no longer know what a normalfag is

>>41067819
Has to do with childhood trauma then, I suppose.
Subaru had house burn down
Rat is Australian

>>41066547
Gura have made this "hobby" of yours into the most normie one right after vidya and anime. All hail HoloEN.

>>41067887
bro do you actually speak nihongo? her japanese isn't super-great. she also doesn't actually-speak korean. what she's done, are korean learning streams.

the languages she DOES speak are english and cantonese. do YOU know anything about her, bitch?

>>41067951
gura at least respects what Hololive is and tries to not degrade or destroy its brand/image. which is more than can be said for like half the holoENs. bae is also so-so in this department but not spotless like gura or irys.

>>41066547
Bae is the perfect encapsulation of the kind of “HoloJP, but speaks English” vtuber anons claim they want. No, I don’t watch her either, but it’s because I know her content’s not for me and also that JP-style vtubing doesn’t work without the right environment (not just genmates, but the immersive feeling that you’re actually watching an anime character stream).
Bae and Kiara are the closest thing to HoloJP, but in English, we have, and these are the kinds of posts anons make in the catalog about them. That’s why EN vtubers are just streamers with anime avatars.

>>41066547
She's not a normie, she might be the most normiest EN member but she's still far from an actual normie
She has very specific niche interests such as seiyuu culture and has the most deep knowledge of Japanese Seiyuu in all of HoloEN. Her knowledge in other aspects is extremely lacking even compared to the average zoomer because presumabely she wasn't allowed to use the internet for a large part of her life due to asian parents.

>>41068094
No, she isn't really that because she has no fucking talents or personality to speak of. She's like watching paint dry, has fucking 0 interest in what she's actually-doing in 90% of streams, she feels like a babysitter there to waste your time.

>>41066629
>>41066642
Imagine that, being a casual and getting hit with gatekeeping makes the casual leave altogether, while being a casual and getting recommendations for other anime and interacting with fans who don’t mind if you decide to go full weeb or stay casual makes you more likely to stick with it.

>this place has sunk so low its unironically simping for an average looking chink whore now
Truly grim...
Councilcucks are beyond pathetic

>>41067972
>Cantonese
Yeah fuck off retard, she cannot speak cantonese, Only extremely basic phrases and understanding of it which she has admitted to on stream and the comments from actual fluent HK people reinforce that in clips.
How about you watch streams bitch?

>>41067949
Didn't she have an actual hole in her heart?

>>41068180
but enough about mori. bae is pretty sexy tbdesu

>>41068094
I'm willing to give her a chance to redeem herself next month since she'll have all the pros she normally doesn't (free reign in Japan) but I have my doubts. I mean her JP off-collabs with probably be with Roberu and the other Stars.

>>41068237
>she cannot speak cantonese, Only extremely basic phrases and understanding of it
Really nigga...?

>>41067668
>Cares about them 10x over Hololive
t.Threadreader forma de ultima
Bae has done more for Hololive than the other council girls in the past 2 months alone, only Fauna compares to her repertoire of projects. She hasn't even spent 1% of her focus on the stars and her main priority has been pumping out CGDCT content

>>41068180
Iirc she’s really good at dancing, and the rrat was that she was hired because they thought there’d actually be 3D and other idolshit to do.
Idk, I agree with you that she’s not really interesting to a lot of anons, including me. But I think she’s interesting enough to have better numbers than she’s getting if she were in the right environment. It’s just that HoloEN isn’t it.

>>41068307
Council is all dog shit you pathetic cuck

>>41068374
>Thread was made by councilschizo
Checks out
KYS you son of a whore

>hobbies
shes one of the biggest otaku by far in holo EN though? this is like the number 1 reason her and irys hit it off so well. its just that shes a normalfag zoomer in basically every other possible aspect.

but then again this thread was probably made by some retard chumbud that doesnt watch streams and thinks gura is totally the biggest otaku evar just like me bros.

>>41068224
Mating press Anon

>>41068374
Good job outing yourself faggot, that wasn't very hard.

>>41067819
>JP doing the same thing, but better

Many such cases

>>41066547
You know absolutely NOTHING about Bae and stop pretending you do

>>41066547
God I love her

>>41068396
>>41068444
>muh boogeyman
There is more than just one person who hates them, cucks. And no I didn't make the thread. Good to know that janny is in here to block anyone saying the truth though.

>>41068237
I’ve heard so many conflicting rrats about how Asian vtubers in EN are at their ancestral language that I seriously have no idea what to think. Virtually no EN vtuber who’s Asian speaks their ancestors’ language fluently, and they’ll always be mogged by a tiny handful of white people while mogging the majority of white people who try. You know why? It’s because we will never pick up a book to improve our skills, since all we have to do is know enough to talk to our grandparents, everyone else around us speaks English or whatever language it is.
I don’t know Cantonese, so I really can’t say. But I use Enna as the baseline for “can speak X”. Her accent in Mandarin is really shaky after more than a few sentences, and her vocabulary is really limited. Not even sure if she can read and write Chinese. I’d still consider her “able to speak Mandarin”, but anyone below that is in a gray area, and I’d shit on them if they ever claimed to be fluent.
If Bae’s Cantonese is at least as good as Enna’s Mandarin, I’m giving her a pass. Even if it’s not, some anons who watch her claim she’s never said she was good at Cantonese, so even then I’ll defer judgment.

Reminder councilcucks:
your oshi will never give a shit about you while she fucks other men using condoms you paid for

Especially you seanigger janny

>>41068343
Vtubing, at least top-level Holo tier, is a performance art, and if you can't convincingly act in a more interesting personality than what you are (and what you are is nothing engaging on its face) then I don't know if anything in vtubing is "right" for her. If her apparent natural demeanor was pleasant to be around there'd be something, but notably it's not there, personality is her weakest link by a longshot. Her living under a rock also doesn't help and even though Irys was the same, Irys has an actually-cute personality, Irys cannot help but be cute and it just radiates off her. Bae could learn a lot from that but didn't.

>>41068760
Those other men? Me in increasingly more difficult to procure costumes.

>>41068809
You say that but I have loved all of her recent collabs + I find her zatsu noticeably more interesting than IRyS
You have a very surface level knowledge of Bae that seems to come from clips mostly otherwise I could put 2 and 2 together and agree with some of your points.

>NOOOOOOOOOOO STOP TELLING THE TRUTH
>LET ME CONTINUE TO SIMP FOR WHORES REEEEEEEEEEE
Nah

>>41068845
It's not and it never will be. You're just an ATM.

>>41068637
>>41068760
and the meltdown begins

>>41067181
>>41067464
Or doxxbaiters

I like this rat.

>>41068039
Respects by being as safe as possible and doing absolutely nothing even the streams aside. What a great shark she is.

>>41068809
Most of what you said is subjective (again, I don’t like Bae’s content either). But putting that aside, does anyone in HoloEN really put up that much kayfabe anymore? It just seems really weird that so much of what you’re saying applies to Council as a whole and you’re targeting Bae.
I think most people would agree that Sana and Kronii were far worse hires than Bae was. Is this just all based in this weird belief that zoomers who act like zoomers shouldn’t be allowed into big corpo vtubing unless they don’t act their age? Or just that weebs who can keep it together and larp as normies shouldn’t be vtubers

>>41067313
Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuruh

>>41068039
I'd rather take the one who attempts to stream and reinforce CGDCT culture with extremely sparse homo collabs that I can easily ignore over the one who never streams or shows little care for her fans.

>>41066547
Anime and video games is as normie as you can get.

>>41068641
The knowledge about her fluency in canto comes from her having to use google translate to understand the majority of a canto supachat.
It was kinda awkward but she just gave a quick rundown that she's got a basic understanding of it, but still struggles quite a lot with it.

>>41067668
t. EOP

What does normies even mean at this point?

>>41070615
>normies
Touristspeak because normalfag was problematic.

>>41068237
>>41068641
>>41069862
Doesn't she speak Cantonese with her family? That makes her a native no?

>>41071232
Her first language is confirmed English since she was born in straya which is usually the classification for one being native in a language I'm not going to go into doxnigger territory regarding this. She just picked up a little bit Cantonese from hearing her family talk but her understanding and proficiency is limited

>>41070873
riajuu doesn't have a slur in it, the fag suffix is just a 4chanism.

>>41070615
anyone who puts group acceptance above everything.

>>41068224
First time seeing yellow fevered retards?

>>41068224
>average looking
literally no one here knows what she looks like

>>41072341
everyone has done their reps anon

>>41071232
Bae's second generation, at least, paparat is still in the air but given the stories about him I think it's just mamarat dropping into her comfortable language occasionally which is probably why Bae isn't that versed in the language.
But yeah nah yeah, some of the stuff I hear about Bae and her dad makes it seem like they've settled pretty comfortably in Aussie culture.

>>41070873
"Normie" has literally been used since the 90s, retard. It's not my fault your zoomer ass wasn't there to witness it.

>>41072427
sure thing buddy

>>41072427
sorry doxxtranny, not everyone's a troon like you

>>41067856
That just makes the ones that aren't stand out more. Like how IRyS apparently spends 90% of the time she isnt streaming watching anime, and her dad is a Chumbud

>>41068224
You cant tempt doxxfags to prove you wrong here because literally no image of her face exists on the internet, we have no idea what she looks like.

Normalfag women don't one day decide
>hmm, today I will learn Japanese
And then go
>hmm, today I will apply for Vtuber company

>>41073700
>he lacks critical information
sorry, not spoonfeeding you.

>>41066547
>>total normie in all aspects, personality and hobbies
>>gets a job in an industry that is the complete opposite of that
I know. They're the best.

>>41074254
It's fitting that the duck is one of Bae's Oshi's, i don't know what it is but both just exude a positive energy that's hard not be infected by.

>>41071232
For people born to immigrants but aren’t immigrants themselves, it’s ambiguous. I technically started speaking Mandarin before I spoke English, but I consider English my native language because I picked it up in day care and progressed with it in the school system, and I didn’t noticeably lag behind my classmates.
That’s why the people who study this stuff would call something like Mandarin for me, or Cantonese for Bae, a “heritage language”. Basically, it’s too familiar to be a second language, but we didn’t learn it properly in school so there’s a bunch of shit we don’t understand despite probably using it a lot more than English when we were young enough to not interact much except with family members.

ugh too quirky
ugh too tryhard
ugh too amateur
ugh too secretive
ugh too gimmicky
ugh too normal
my brothers in christ i think if you dont like vtubers you dont like vtubers

>>41067101
>>41067063
Tatsunokos need to go back

>>41069862
do you have a clip of the superchat? i'm fluent in cantonese and can probably judge.

99% of the people who grow up overseas can only speak but not read/write because the hurdle of memorizing a few thousand kanji/hanzi is too high w/o proper schooling.

assuming bae also can't read, she would've needed text-to-speech to help but google translate only supports speaking in mandarin.

also written chinese is the same across all dialects. if you want to write dialect specific chinese, you would literally have to use made up characters and english placeholders. since there's no standard way to write things it's also untranslatable with google translate.

TLDR, she can be 100% conversational at the language and still struggle to read a "canto" superchat

>>41072341
>>41073700
I'm inclined to believe doxxbaiters are either discord trannies or jannies itching to ban like these two

>>41067951
As if Mousey and Nyanners weren't doing a good job of it before Gura even debuted.

>>41077507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_VbB8BlGvU
Here's the clip of the moment, i think i must've misrembered the details but it seems like you're on the money about the reading and writing part.
the only time we've got her speaking is that one IRyS clip

>>41077898
yea that looks like an untranslatable message, it's written in very slangy cantonese

>>41066612
this girl likes Inuyasha, already a mating partner for me

Bae, my beloved,
See these fags whose threadreader wants to shite on you because they're pathetic creatures.
Their topics to shit on are race, language, and homos.
My precious bae,
See the power of zoomer you hold that makes these fags seethe eternally.
Rejoice, my little chaos,
for thou hast made these fags shake and cry to deny your zoomer's existence.

>>41068039
That doesn’t mean she is not extremely normie
Uncontroversial, interests in popular common things (anime is mainstream now), doesn’t have strong opinions on anything
Young voice and content that attracts children
She reminds me of miku, a mascot more than anything

>>41069502
>Or just that weebs who can keep it together and larp as normies shouldn’t be vtubers
Well yeah, vtubers should all be weird autists because that's the type of personality that's actually interesting.

>>41077898
The moment you're thinking of is when she explained the situation with her mom on stream afterwards, where she went over how she panicked because she's protective of her family and didn't want to reveal details around her mom and that she can understand the canto dialect her mom was speaking but can't speak it very well (https://youtu.be/rKOSO6smn8M?t=130).). She got a few canto superchats around this time too which I can't find the specific clips for where she had to explain again that she can't understand it well enough to read their messages

>>41066547
Nothing wrong with that. Vtubing is still in its infancy so we can expect to see a lot of people getting involved who've never heard of it before. To make a comparison, a lot of early game designers either had a math/engineering background or came out from nowhere. Miyamoto was a fucking banjo player for god's sake.

>>41081822
Fuck she's cute, I forgot how upfront she's been about everything.
>all this fuss over a stupid cat
If only we knew how bad things were going to get...

>>41082805
It really hit me hard when she started getting upset over (assumedly) remembering that whole arc again during her time capsule stream a couple days ago along with all the other shit she's had to deal with in the last year, poor rat didn't deserve all that suffering but she still managed to put on a smile the whole time

>>41078939
The ESL makes it even more cringe.

>>41066547
I think she's fine. She's really into Hololive and embraces it. I don't watch her all that often but she's fine during collabs, especially when everyone gangs up on her when she reveals how zoomer she is.

>>41083464
Has she mentioned any interest in doing another Fabaerary? I've been unable to keep up with her.

>>41083779
Yeah she plans on going full-on with Febaerary 2 but this time she'll also be in Japan the whole time. It's part of the reason her schedule's been so sparse the last few weeks, she took a hard week off just to rest (as ordered by mane-chan) and has been recording for holofes / working on projects and prep for Febaerary ever since to the point that she barely has any time to stream this month

>>41066547
She's a superweeb like IRyS and Ina, anon.

>>41084259
I'll keep an eye on it then, I've got a lot more time now. The last one was great, I had a lot of fun during it.

>>41081822
Jesus christ. Can't these women chill a bit? They are not celebrities, nobody is going to hurt you. Many Holos have been thoroughly doxxed and nothing bad happened.
Do managers scare them?

>>41086039
t. deadbeat

who cares. she's young and fertile. that alone makes her one of the best

Isn't she a huge Inuyasha autist?

>>41067668
>doesn't actually speak it, just wants to learn it because she's a kpop retard
normies arent kpop retards

>>41077036
>my brothers in christ
Go back to other sites please.

>>41087283
She's a huge weeb that spent most of her time inside binging anime (and learned the entire fucking language because of anime), she just also happens to be sheltered from most pop culture and a tiktok addict

>>41082805
She cried over a baby dying in a videogame.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfwrpwruF1o
She seems pretty damn innocent.

>>41088631
That's more empathy than I could've mustered. She's so sweet.

>>41082513
The problem is she hasn't improved herself despite streaming for over a year and a half. She's just that boring. Ngl if this is Nijisanji she would be 3view without the brand power and being friend with famous chuubas.

>>41068223
>Thou asketh too much
When the girl is too casual, you got mad. When the girl is a weeb, you got mad as well. Nothing pleasing you.

>>41068305
You going to complain when she speaks broken basic English as well

>>41067101
kek like a land whale who thinks it's a 8 would know any better

>>41068809
Eh, all of vtubing is that now. In JP it isn't different, you just can't tell because you don't speak the language. Vtubing having any lore or "character" stuff attached to it slowly withered away, every vtuber now is just a nornal streamer using an avatar for marketing and branding purposes, nothing more.

>>41066547
yeah total normies speak Japanese, heavily desire to sing and voice things in Japanese, can drop Japanese VA names casually and chuuni the fuck out during things like Persona, great take

She's just a zoomer, just because she's young and doesn't know much about gaming and western cartoons and other shit doesn't make her a "normie", she just wasn't a hardcore otaku or /here/ and clearly had parents who made her do things

>>41066547
>YOU CAN'T LIKE ANIME UNLESS YOU HAVE PISS-BOTTLES LIKE I DO
Not your sekret club. Sorry if that upsets anyone.

>>41098535
She admits to fast forwarding through anime. If you dont have the patience to watch a series the right way then you unironcally cant even call yourself a weeb.

>>41098715
You bet your fucking ass I fast-forwarded through the endless 8.

>>41086039
youtubers have been murdered for much less. (e.g. Christina Grimmie got shot to death by an infatuated schizo and she didn't even do parasocial shit)

>>41066612
>Asian
Where do you people even come up with these assumptions anyway?

>>41099254
This is doxxbait

>>41099254
You'd best be thankful, anon. I don't like getting sent on vacations.
https://files.catbox.moe/9p1dlo.png

>>41067949
>>41068253
she lied about all of those things
>source?
reps

>>41100189
Now I understand the mating press meme.

>>41100189
holy sex

>>41100189
Ambatukam... yesiem.

>>41066547
>total normie
>wants to fuck a lanky and whiny anime man

>>41100851
That lanky whiny anime man? All me.

Jfc, why are all you here like a bunch of highschool faggots shit talking some bitch they don't like. Are all posters here women?

>>41100851
Itachi and Sesshomaru barely speak words let alone whine

>>41098358
Based streamwatcher post

>>41066547
shes literally a fujo

>>41100992
I want to fuck a fem anti-brat

>>41086039
That's not why it's an issue in her case, the gooks have no problem revealing they are gooks. But to be a chink in Hololive is a bit controversial. Without that accidental reveal, nobody knew her ethnicity.

>>41100997
it's still not the average woman in the streets that will do a tex avery gag for a drawing.

>>41099530
She literally spoke in her language on stream answering her mom and was edited out later because it was a private conversation about when she'll be finishing up.

>>41101822
You replied to the wrong person

>>41100992
Is this your first time being involving in e-celeb or celeb shit in general fandom? They're all like this.

>>41066547
Anon, her parents literally built an extension of their house to shuffle her off into because she was embarrassing them with her weebshit. Show me any normie for whom that is true. She's just a zoomer.

>>41066547
There're a ton of zoomers like this. A lot of geekcore is mainstream now and the generation builds their identity around their interests, so for better or for worse they're into a lot of shit that would've been weird in combination when we were young

>>41098000
Pekora isn't and she's pretty successful for it.

>>41066547
Your point? she's cute as fuck and fun to watch. It's very fulfilling whenever she learns something new that she shares and it helps that she's earnest about the learning process

>>41067856
>wagoon.

>>41066547
Bae's a huge weeb. That's not normal.

>>41066547
cute lovable rat.

>>41066612
well said

>>41066547
I'd still fuck her in her cuck shed, and so would you.

>>41066547
Eh. She's admitted cosplaying and did those weird videos for her birthday. She's not a normie.

>>41066547
>total normie
She's an otaku/Fujo anon. She may know shit about popular nerd media fron the 80's, 90's and 2000's, but she is still an otaku.

>>41117560
Someone with a low powerlevel might as well be a normalfag.

>>41067313
bruv

>>41117558
Cosplay sex with the rat...

>>41101822
catbox file or it didn't happen

>>41066547
certified bruh moment

I wish she graduated instead of Sana

>>41067947
This guy gets it, also OP is a normalfag too because he uses the normalfag term for normalfags

>>41122610
You want less streams?

>>41066612
Imagine

>>41122919
Streams from someone as boring as her might as well be a vacant spot anyway. So yeah, graduate her. She'd be better in Zoomisanji where she can embrace being a cocksleeve more often.

>>41126357
That wouldn't be interesting. Idol culture means all the horny weirdos who join have two wolves fighting it out. That's interesting.

>>41120808
It's no secret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HX_SkVU8lM

>>41066547
>watches and loves Roberu
>Normie
anon you are a fucking retard. not even the fun kind but the kind that makes other anons look bad by association. do everyone a favor and kill yourself

>>41078939