/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Numbertranny thread

>>40999177
Here's a graph tracking ccv since 2020 if someone's interested

>>40999177
>2022 vod cull
wut

>>40999278
>nijitranny deflection post
fuck off
this is bigger then muh number

>>40999177
You lost holochud get over it

>>40999351
>niji out of nowhere
rent free

>>40999387
Kiss my ass Elirafag.

>>40999317
Since late 2022 hololive vod's have been getting half of the normal viewership

>>40999278
>NOOOOOOOOO YOU JUST CANT TALK ABOUT PERFORMANCE OVER TIME NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Wtf are yoy retarded anon? the fuck is your problem?

>>40999458
Or I thought youtube was nuking vods now

>Nijisanji does well
>Bots
>Hololive does bad
>Culled
Holoretards live in their own fantasy world

>>40999177
I hope they get culled hard. Fuck cover and their shitty management

>>40999682
look at the graphs retard

>High numbers
>Nijisanji beat a Hololive girl on a Vod
>Youtube is culling
Literally fuck off, neck yourself and stay within your thread.

>>40999177
Have you considered that elira's 3d is half of the time and a lot of people wanted to watch it even if they couldn't catch it live? It's also prerecorded so you don't even miss anything watching the vod
You don't need a conspiracy to explain the Holo stream having less views

>>40999752
All I see is Hololive bot too based on graphs then, numberfag.

>>40999682
newfag
in november 2020 overnight pekora went from 60K to 40K on the same minecraft stream
every holo was started getting only half of their usual numbers. it looked super randoma nd sus>>40999288 look at the yellow frame and how low they dropped.

>>40999682
This but also the fact that Nijisanji bought exclusive topics on Twitter until Elon must took over Twitter, and they most likely did the same thing with YouTube given that some shit 3D from them can easily get into the top tendencies in Japan, but Hololive with much better viewership and interactions struggle to reach the same top tendencies.

>>40999842
Anon
EVERY
SINGLE
VOD
IS
CULLED
The Pekora one is just an example
Here you have her 3 most recent 3d lives instance. All had around the same average ccv, same lenght, same format but the newest one after the VOD cull has only half of the views comapred to the others. And you can check for yourself and compare other streams as well. Every holomen has suspiciosuly low vods. It's sus as fuck.

>>40999288
Is CCVID the moment YT stopped counting viewers with adblockers?

>>40999785
>fujos bot Kpop faggots
>fujos would never bot vtuber faggots

>>40999682
This but unironically.
We are forced to believe that Niji is a close competition to hololive, in reality it;s not even close. Their events are botted meanwhile hololive is culled to hell and back.

>>40999446
Oh he's SEETHING seething huh
Must not have been much food thrown out this time

>>40999278
>The youtube intern trembles upon being exposed

>>41000245
This is borderline delusional. Hololive could be in 3view territory and you'd still argue they're more successful than Niji because of your retarded corpo war mindset.

>>41000282
Pekolewds last night were tasty, thanks for asking Nijitard.

>>41000041
No that was 2020 change
CCVID was one year later when they massacred hololive during new year

>No you don't get it, Youtube is PERSONALLY trying to ruin Hololive

>>40999458
>must be Susan specifically targeting hololive! No other explanation
lol

Death to both Holonig and Nijinig numbertrannies. Go back to your containment thread you slime

>>40999752
The graphs for Salome's streams when she was all the rage were pristine yet you retards still cried bots.

>>40999458
Have you considered that Niji has a bigger global audience that can't be awake 24/7 for all streams and will watch VODs when they wake up?

>the nijiniggers are controlling Susan!
Lol
Lmao

>>40999177
>18 hours ago
>6 hours ago
retard.

Jesus Christ numberniggers are pathetic. They have to invent a hundred theories like culls and Z's and bots and view farming to justify that they get bigger numbers than Niji

>>40999177
>VOD cull
Get better proof than that. It's never been a rule that more CCV = more views. All holos I watch still have the same average number of views in their streams overall.

>>41000698
>No argument

>>41000831
I mean Hololive didn't get a Topic on twitter until they kicked out all the old employees. Meanwhile, Nijisanji had its own Topic, and the 'Virtual Youtuber' Topic is almost always Nijisanji, meaning they effectively have TWO Topics. If they can control twitter, is controlling youtube really that outlandish?

>>41000812
We haven't seen the same graphs in may/June then, retard.

>>41000746
You must be delusional if you think there isnt someone at youtube who hates hololive considering how culled they have been. They didnt even have their own topic on twitter until elon bought it and fired the trannies.
Exact same thing is happening at youtube. Do your reps.

>>41000768
This is not your hugbox
Go back.

>>41001093
Whatever cope and boogeymen help you sleep at night numbernigger

>>41001053
>Nijisanji is run by the illuminati

>>41000812
Yeah pristine botted.
Where are all her viewers these days huh?
Fucking IPO stunt.

>>40999458
That's not what "cull" means.

>>41000698
I belev

>>41000512
Did a proper explanation ever come out to what exactly caused CCVID? I remember seeing mid tier holos getting less than 2k CCV, it was quite the sight.

>>41001093
Yeah, YouTube hates Hololive so much they featured Gura on their official channel
Retard

>>41000817
>Niji has a bigger global audience

>>41001093
>>41001053
Nigga, Hololive had its own topic and trended just fine, it showed up more for Japanese audiences. No I'm not talking about just "trending" either. Are you really this butthurt over numbers?

>>41001245
>No evidence to prove otherwise

>>41000035
>4 hours ago
>5 months ago
3D lives often get rewatched a lot over time, you can't compare them over time distances like that. If you're so sure about this how come every "proof" you present is this iffy?

>>41000768
Stop crying retard you know we're right. This needs to be known.

>>40999177
Monetization cull

Holofags can't decide if Nijisanji is secretly the illuminati ruling the Vtubing world or they're a small company under the boot of Hololive.

>>40999177
>Posts insane Pekora 6hrs views on a regular stream against 18hrs of the first ever 3D debut stream of a big corpo EN.
>hololive vod cull
Every single number thread outside of /#/ get us a guaranteed retarded OP embarrassing himself

>>41001053
>seething so hard that he mistook Youtube for Twitter

>>41000831
Explain why hololive was culled and niji wasn't.

>>41000245
Take your meds

>>41000698
>>41000746
>>41000768
>>41000812
>>41000817
>>41000831
>>41000865
>>41000969
>>41000976
Nijiniggers please...
Make your discord raids less obvious.

>>40999177
is this the first time an EN niji got 3D? i wonder why people show up to these

>>41001380
It's because they get laughed out of /#fag/, so they have to shit up catalog.

>>41001524
Are the Discord bogeymen here with us now anon?

>>41001062
Yeah, I've seen you retards cry bots when her CCV went crazy for a moment because she briefly DC'd.
>>41001191
Fall Guys was the hottest shit ever for a month before stabilizing at fairly popular. Same thing happened to her.

She did smash the time-to-1mil subs record, though. I remember chumbuds being pretty proud of that one. You think Holo can take it back?

>>41001180
cute straw man
really helps your damage control here

>>41001158
>views being slashed by half overnight is cope and boogeyman
whatever you say nijinigger

>makes holofags seethe
>makes nijifags seethe
>makes vshojofags seethe
How did we end up with so much power, /#/chads?

>Only affects Hololive
>No one has reported anything about it
>Zero evidence to back it up
I'm thinking the Holofags are upset that they won the battle (CCV) but lost the war (overall views). A common occurrence.

Schizo thread?

>>41001241
Judas kiss
They did this cute publicity stunt while fucking them up behind the scenes.

>>41001241
Thanks youtube very cool but how about you remove the cull?

>>41001224
>youtube
>properly explaining things
roru
rumao

>>41001660
That's the holofag way, the only numbers that matter are the ones where hololive is bigger, and if they lose in all of them then the other side was cheating

>>41001425
People don't watch Hololive

>>41001326
They only got a topic when elon bought twitter .

I've never seen a gayer thread in my entire life, was vt a mistake?

>>41001336
anon those other lives had 1M after 1 hour.
watch streams.
they dont gain much after the initial 24 hour period. here is another

>>41001939
Your mom not using a condom during her weekly orgies certainly was a mistake.

>>41001357
Why is it hitting specifically hololive?

>>41000208
Why would fujos bot a girl

>>41001957
>watch streams.
>they dont gain much after the initial 24 hour period. here is another
Normal streams don't. 3D lives often do, including the ones you posted. Now I'm starting to suspect you're just maliciously making shit up.

>>41001380
>insane
these type of streams used to be at 800K-1M at that point
How about YOU stop embarrassing yourself?
We can go back to this stream in 20 hours and see how much it gained compared to elira's.

Why did they cull Elira's CCV like that? I can't believe YouTube's bias against Nijisanji.

>>41001660
>Another retard that can't read the data that's in front of him.
Pekora's vod has 80% of Elira's view in 1/3rd of the time.
Forget Niji vs Holo bullshit, this is grim af for the EN scene.

>>41001660
Hal, Selen, plenty of 2views reported the CCVID happening in early 2022 retard. The VOD views problem is just a matter of time. It's not happening only to Hololive though, plenty of french content creators for instance have been whining about the problem already.

>>41002112
Maybe her time is over

>>41001742
So you either believe:
>YouTube is involved in massive conspiracy to purposefully get at Hololive, and only Hololive, by slashing their views, and at the same time promoting them in order to appear as if they're actually friends when in reality they're back stabbing them, and also ignoring every other vtuber group that is on their platform because they only have beef with Hololive because of reasons, all while risking their reputation and severe backlash if they're ever discovered
Or
>People who missed Elira's 3D live watched the VOD later

>>41001053
MOST
POWERFUL
COMPANY
Can't believe Nijisanji is eternally 2 weeks from bankruptcy and Riku doing a runner, yet they somehow also control YouTube with an iron fist. Holocopecels need to off themselves immediately lmao.

>>41001515
Explain the graph
Why was hololive's live audience removed by 50%? No other content creator experienced such a drastic cull. feels targeted. Same with ghostbans on twitter. Why are holos constantly gettign ghostbanned? They are targeted by salty faggots.

>>41002112
Show us examples of Pekora getting those 800k - 1M views on a regular streams in under 6hs.

>>41002156
Anytime sister, anytime.

>>41001555
Why are you trying to gaslight me?
You can't deny the cull anyways.

>>41002353
>No evidence

>>41002263
This happened 12 days ago, the VOD was stuck at under 600k no matter what, then strangely a day or two later it spiked up at 1million views. The VODs are culled, that's a fact. Everyone is affected by it though.
https://youtu.be/UHXSfWeA1iE

>>41001555
>straw man
you are getting repetetive nijinigger
don't you have something new?

>>41002283
Please make up your mind if she's getting terrible numbers that can only be explained by youtube trying to ruin her channel or brag about her amazingly big numbers

>>41002396
Views only get stuck when youtube's system suspects botting.

>>41002440
Ogey sister.

>>41002353
Sometimes people aren't trying to gaslight you and you really are just being a schizo.

>>41002396
I'm not taking your word for it. Do you have screenshot receipts? Evidence? Proof?

>>41001555
Yes.
Eww I'm just replying to one.
Disgusting

>>41001660
>zero evidence
were you born yesterday?

>>40999177
>>41000865
Imagine if OP had used Elira 3D and IRyS kimono reveal

>>41002601
Straw man. Where's the evidence?

>>41002452
>common knowledge since 2005.

>>41001660
>>41001663
Literal graph posted itt showing both algo change and ccvid
Retards:
>is ThIs SHizO wItH nO eVideNce???

>>41002396
newfag, that's a not a fucking regular stream. It's an annual tournament event.
newfag, vods don't get "stuck" they undergo a long validation process that releases good vod views in batch.
newfag, why are you posting numbers outside of /#/? why are you so fucking stupid? go back to your discord

>>41002601
CCVID is literally the only one of the OP's points that is demonstrably real

Why does the company that has Youtube, Twitter, and Discord under its control and has a cabal of shills on /vt/ numbering in the hundreds have such bad finances that it's supposedly going bankrupt every 2 weeks?

>>40999177
>18 hours old video has more views than a 6 hours old video
wow
whoa

>>41002241
Explain the cull then. If you are so confident that there is no conspiracy against hololive explain their cull I'm curious.

>>41001872
Dont show me your delusions. Explain why hololive was culled.

>>40999387
Fuck off, it's happening to everyone. I was watching the Jewish leprechaun the other day (her cosplay stream I think) and while the current viewer count was 400 something the in chat poll she was running had 600-odd votes. YouTube is fucking around with everyone's views, even your nijiniggers.

Also no amount of bans will change the fact that the /vt/ mod is a shit skinned little seanigger who can't tell the difference between the smell of pagpag and his mama's pussy.

>>41002787
Not required of me. You have the burden of proof to explain it because you brought up the topic. If a man is murdered and you the court tells you you're retarded for trying to explain to them it was actually suicide, you can't ask the court how they think it happened. Provide evidence that can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the cull is a result of a YouTube conspiracy. Then we can talk.

>>41002069
again this stream had 1M one day after it got archived
this sits at 500K after 10 days
at this point you are either retarded to not understand the VOD cull or a bad faith actor

>>41001524
anon, it's no longer a raid, they live in this board now

I like how nijinigs pretend youtube is perfect just to shit on holo as if their last wave wasn't culled in every single metric

holoschizo victim complex in full effect because theres no way people would want to watch vods of niji

>>41003000
Wait, holochads told me only hololive was being culled!

The only vod views that get culled are views resulting from bots.
https://youtu.be/SU6P3fSEY5Q?t=3963
This Prism snake got raided by bots, her ccv spiked from under 200 to +40k. She ended the stream and she she had aroudn 70k views. Youtube culled the views and left the real value.

>>41002263
that wasnt a regular stream
she had 78K live viewers
here is a stream from before the VOD cull that got 70K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjFjlSKRzbo
Yestrfay's stream should at minimum have more than that

>>41003000
Oh, so the cull is real and it's not targeting Hololive specifically? Guess that means the YouTube conspiracy theory is out the window.

>>40999177
>more people are willing to watch a VOD of the first NijiEN 3D debut than Pekora pulling some knock-off Mr. Beast shit
what a surprise
>>41001524
literally everything is a conspiracy to you people, you are genuine paranoid schizophrenics

>>41002425
that was a different anon
i know unbelievable right?

>>41002488
Ok that's cute anon.
Now explain why hololive is culled.

>>41003199
wtf is this? I asked examples (plural) of 800k in under 6hs.
Keep looking newfag, I'm teaching you something here.

>>41002689
That's not a staw man retard-kun
You are cute though.
Keep it up.

Making /#/ threads outside of /#/ should be a bannable offense.

>>40999177
>18 hours vs 6 hours
Holy fuck numberfags are fucking retarded
Kill yourself ASAP

>>41002733
and how was 2020 algo change and the current vod cull not real?

>>41003229
It's pure comedy how OP tries to make a schizo point with a picture were
Pekora is clearly overperforming and Elira is underperforming

>>41002764
wow
whoa
we can comeback to this comparison ina few days and have the same results retard but you do you.

>>41003172
>>41003223
The guy is literally arguing that everyone is getting culled schizos

>>41002913
The proof is right in OP. Can't you read?

>>41002241
No one is questioninng elira;s high vod views. People are concerned about Pekora's and by extention all holomens low vod views in comparison.

>>40999288
>>40999446
>>41000035
>>41001524
>Be fucking retard schizo
>Your non-sense gets BTFO with FACTS and LOGIC
>M-muh N-Ni-Nijiniggers
Everytime

>>41003463
Numberfaggotry should be bannable in general. Too bad that the meidos are tribalistic numberfags themselves.

>>41003733
holy rent free

>>41003180
that's not the same
in case of holos they don't get culled after the initial ending of the stream. they get culled immediately. so there is little to no drop in the archive. it just sits at a lower point then it used to with the same ccv.

>>40999752
Nah just kys you sissy retard

>>41003025
>Retard who can't even analize data
compare elira's ccv to pekora's and then their respective vod views
Dont you see any discrepancies?

Numberchimps are the laughingstock of this board. And that’s saying something.

>>41003374
This example is enough to prove the vod cull faggot.

>>41003474
read the thread before you post retard.
i can post her vod tomorrow again and it will have the same issue
it won't go away

>>40999177
Numberniggers are so incapable of critical thinking it's fucking sad. ONE THING DOES NOT NEED TO CORRELATE WITH THE OTHER

Updated vod count:
Elira 519k views (Streamed 21hrs ago, 49k/76k avg/max ccv)
Pekora 449k views (Streamed 9hrs ago, 53k/55k avg/max ccv)

In 3hrs: Elira +8k views, Pekora +14k views

Conclusion:
- Pekora "is getting massively culled" gaining views 57% faster than Elira atm
- OP is a retarded newfag

>>41003873
gee I wonder why the highly anticipated one hour long prerecorded video got more vod views after being up for twice the amount of time

>>41003733
just take your meds nijinigger

>>41003948
>my words are the evidence
show DATA you nigger
show vods getting reduced
Several /#/ anons are running databases monitoring the state of numbers on youtube and you are the only nigger claiming hololive is getting their views massively culled.

>random fuckos tune in for 15 seconds to see elira in 3d
>go "oh neat" and leave but their view gets counted on the vod
BUT BWOS ITS THE FUCKING CULL

>>41004070
nta but you just illustrated that post perfectly lmao

>>41004057
>pekora's 78K peak stream struggles to get 500K after 10 hours
>when streams like that used to be at 600K right after the end of the stream
nothing weird at all

>>40999288
>this year's January
>keeps rising, proving the prior two January numbers are not a seasonal lull
Damning information for the legitimacy of Youtube's numbers.

>>41004195
>when streams like that used to be at 600K right after the end of the stream
Proof?

>>41003911
>nijinigger deflection

>>41003820
> they get culled immediately. so there is little to no drop in the archive. it just sits at a lower point then it used to with the same ccv.
you forgot your picture showing this, where is it?

>>41004195
>streams like that used to be at 600K right after the end of the stream
you also forgot your picture here

>>41003733
>The graph literally shows facts
>The discord leak literally shows facts
>The VODs literally show facts
>"muh look at this fucken schizo getting btfo with muh factz and rogic"

>>41004210
If we think about this logically:
1. We can assume that by the advent of 2023's January, a very significant number of old subscriptions from a time of greater scrutiny and shadow-banning have been replaced by new fans or new accounts. With the rolling population of VTuber fans, comes hololive's escape from shadowban territory.
2. Pekora has one of the largest fanbases in the VTuber fandom and naturally includes an incredible number of old accounts that are still active (just view her stream chat for # of 2-year+ members).

Combining these two things, we can hypothesize that VTubers that retain fans the most also suffer the most from Youtube obscuring the raw number of viewers. The longer a fan is retained, the more likely they will be removed from metrics.

>>41004161
I just linked you the fucking stream retard
stop ignoring it because it inconviences you.
You can also just go to pekora's page and go through her archives. VOD cull started late 2022

>>41004220
>>41004276
Newfag
Also why are you assuming im lying?
If you arent arguing in bad faith hwo can you expect me to have a screenshot of vods right after the stream ended?

Why are you claiming something without being able to back it up? Seems kinda weird

>>41004584
Okay you win. Hololive has more numbers than Nijisanji because of culls / bots / Z's. Congratulations.

>>40999288
what is CCVID?

>>41001556
>stabilizing at fairly popular
>10k average
>from >100k daily
roru

>>41000698
Eh, wouldn't surprise me considering trying to browse vtuber-related topics on twitter bombards you with Niji content and even just niji tweets from literal whos.

>>41004840
It's funny how we've been on this dance like 2 years already
>hololive gets culled the first
>nijifags "lmao you were botting"
>niji gets culled later just the same way
>"U-uh you see Susan changed the algorythm..." as explained by holofags weeks ago
>holo gets culled a second time
>nijifag with the memory of a goldfish "lmao you were botting"
>repeat
See you in a few months again

>>41004019
You swapped up the CCV, retardtachi.

>>41005399
I kneel. You've won Holochads. Let a meager Nijinigger like me repent for my sins.

>>41004840
I dont care about "winning" on amongolian basket-weavig forum.
I just wanted to bring up the issue for a discussion.

>>40999278
Yeah because numbers are only allowed to be used when shitting on males and not the females.

>>41005399
except nijichads don't give a shit about their sacred protected numbers like holoniggers
kys

>>41005489
No need to explain further. Hololive gets bigger numbers than Nijisanji. I've seen the light. Please let me bask in the glory of the Holochads.

did susan finally start culling hololive botted views? nice

>>41005497
Where did this random homobeggar appear from?

>>41004653
>>41004584
You haven't shown a single picture of: moment 1 with X views and moment 2 with less views.
So far you showed us current numbers + "I swear it had 800k views right after the stream". Which is something no one in /#/ has ever seen ever in years of monitoring numbers.

The fact that you need this explanation demonstrates you are a retarded newfag and should never touch the topic ever again.

>>41005408
thank you, I'm waiting for OP to take that data and denounce how Elira is getting culled instead

>>41005508
Niji is so obsessed with numbers they created a vtuber that's literally called "one million subscribers"

>>41005650
They did what now? That's sad holyshit

>>41002010
It's not, it's hitting everybody. It's just more apparent with Vtubers because of how many numbers autists are looking at the data.

>>41005036
See this graph, with the waiting room having a the highest amount of viewers compared to the peak of the stream itself? That's what CCVID was. Every Vtuber had that problem(indie, Holo, Niji, whatever) during 2 to 3 weeks( it has slowly started near the end of December and ended the 12th of January) and some 3DPDs had that problem as well( besides some highly known fleshtubers like Valkyrae that were untouched for some reason). The VOD views were totally fine at the time(same average compared to before the CCVID), yet the live counter was fucked up.
YouTube never bothered explaining the reason why though.

>>41005725
Translate 壱百満天原サロメ / Hyakumantenbara Salome, funny shit that is.

>>40999177
the tranny promoters are still being push
it's a fag pro company after all

>>41005036
At the begining of 2022 viewership suddenly went down for holos by 50% on average from which it never fully recorvered. The climb you see in the graph is a new viewerbase.
It got called ccvid because it seemingly spread from channel to channel like a virus

>>41005645
>Which is something no one in /#/ has ever seen ever in years of monitoring numbers.
We talk about it constantly though?

>>41005645
>So far you showed us current numbers + "I swear it had 800k views right after the stream". Which is something no one in /#/ has ever seen ever in years of monitoring numbers.
Are you just making shit up? 700-800k views were completely normal with high tier holos, although 1M views were a bit rare. Unfortunately there's no one schizo enough to screenshot every VOD after a day has passed so you'll have to do with this post that clearly states that Miko had 800k views after a day

Doesnt Holo getting high vod numbers but low relative CCV mean that Hololives actual live viewership is called according to /#/?
Why isnt it the same for Niji? Maybe it isnt Pekoras vodnumbers that are culled but Eliras live viewers

>>40999177
He thinks no one watches the vod after the stream end kek, just admit more people watch 3d than that cheap "Mr beast"

>>41005645
>Newfag calls others newfags
If you ha dbeen around for longer than amonth you wouldnt have to ask dumb questions liek that.
Pekora getting 800K on streams with 70K+ CCV was completely normal. Now she gets only 400K? Yeah bullshit . Fuck youtube.

>>41006295
bots

>>41005751
I dont see nijisanji being culled.

>>41005814
Not every streamer had this issue though. And I rememeber some nijis werent hit with it at all or to small extent.

>>41006295
Pekora gets 800k in 70k ccv vods.
But not a soon as the stream ends. Not even under 6hrs.

You can keep looking for an example you'll never find it because this never happened, newfag

>>41006172
>Doesnt Holo getting high vod numbers but low relative CCV
But it''s the other way around

>>41006396
>>41006472
maybe holo should stop botting

>>41006545
It happened for longer streams and streams with high ccv all the time faggot
stop it
Now it's halfed

>>41006637
if it happened so much, post a picture

>>40999177
preach brother preach

>>41006172
Holo is bigger than Niji.
If Holo gets lower CCV but higher VOD views, Youtube is culling CCV.
If Holo gets lower VOD views but higher CCV, Youtube is culling VOD views.
Simple as.

>>41006545
>Pekora gets 800k in 70k ccv vods.
But she doesn't now, that's the fucking point, check her channel and there's a bunch of videos with 400k VOD views after a week with 50-60k+ live viewers

>>41004019
status update while OP is looking for a single picture of a 70k ccv vod with 800k views in under 6hrs.

Updated vod count:
Elira 521k views (Streamed 22hrs ago, 49k/55k avg/max ccv)
Pekora 454k views (Streamed 10hrs ago, 53k/76k avg/max ccv)

Pekora speed from OP's pic: 4,7k views/hour ("""culled"""")
Elira speed from OP's pic: 2,5k views/hour (not "culled")

OP status: still a retarded newfag.
EN scene status: grim

>>41006763
Sorry I didn't take a picture of a vod right after astream ended to prove something half year later to a newfag. Should have been around.
>>41008041
Keep updating to prove my point.

>>41008187
You need faster Elira to get your point proven.
You don't even understand what kind of evidence would be useful to you as a prof.
All you've been doing is claiming to be right while pointing your finger at a data that shows that you are wrong.
It's very embarrassing... stop please.

>>41008187
70k people watching a stream and no one took a picture? Come on OP, I'm sure there are many of those "800k views, streamed 5hrs ago" if they happened all the time.

>>40999177
so true nijisis

>>41008402
>70k people watching a stream and no one took a picture? Come on OP, I'm sure there are many of those "800k views, streamed 5hrs ago" if they happened all the time.
And you're calling others newfags? Literally no one ever takes a pic of VOD views aside from chumbuds and salomefags, it's always live viewers and it never shows VOD views since most people aren't having a war about that

>>40999177
>3D reveal vs talking stream
hmm i wonder why talking stream has lower view count

>>41008402
Pekora's stream should be at 800K newfag
Besides just look at these>>41000035>>41001957
should tell you enough about the recent vod cull

holobronies are forever miserable with their number worship, holy shit

>>41009163
Hololive doesn't have "Onemillionsubscribers Salome"

>>41009281
that's still your argument to this cancerous behavior? Hololive has "act like a whore for numbers" pirate

>>41008913
>Don't even understand what kind of evidence would be useful as proof of vod cull
>Claims to be right while pointing finger at data that doesn't prove anything
OP is an chatbox stuck in a loop
Stop shitting up the general and keep lurking

God, i hate holoschizos

>>41009163
this you?

>>41011217
yeah, it's me and you're still having a meltdown that a normalfag sports fanatic/farmer larping streamer gets more views that idolshit. Fucking retard

>>41011217
That picture shows the impact of AsaCoco
With 4th gen having a box 30k strong in just two weeks.

>>41010332
Complete retard.
>The same stream
>The same lenght
>The same ccv
In Pekora's case the ones before vod cull are at 1.3M
The one after at 800K
Where did the views go?.
And what about Towa? 1M vs 580K
Exact same thing except the one with 580K had higher CCV. Obviously culled views. I dont understand how you can not see it. Are you fucking retarded?

>>41011452
holy projection
i dont care about your farmer or whatever
i want youtube to stop culling viewers

>>41011809
>holy projection
literally what your were doing now you get a nice layer of it on your face
vtuber fans don't give a fuck about your numbers. Your kind simply shits up the board with number discussion and never discuss vtubers like your entire life depends on it. kys

>>41011732
Lol, look at him. He doesn't understand the absolute basic concept of how a video gets views OVER TIME.
He thinks pekora most recent upload should get the same playbacks today as one that been farming views for 5 months.
This is so embarrassing OP. Please stop...

No wait.
I mean keep going.
Keep posting lol

>>41012184
>01/04/22
fake and gay

>>41012366
>He thinks pekora most recent upload should get the same playbacks today as one that been farming views for 5 months.
Are you a fucking newfag? Those are streams. Stream archives dont get much views over time with some minor exceptions. I will screenshot this and grudgepost you in 6 months from now to prove it to your retarded bitchass.

>>41012397
>>>/vt/thread/S15836135#p15837117
embarrassing that holobronies are still talking about the same thing at around the same time 1 year later
free yourself

>>41012366
>>41012721
Here we go
screenshotted to come back to it in 5 months and then in one year again to compare and show retards like you that vods have been culled.

>>41012366
>Lol, look at him. He doesn't understand the absolute basic concept of how a video gets views OVER TIME.
Are you a chumbud? You MUST be a chumbud, no one else thinks that VODs get that many views after their first week aside from chumbuds since they have nothing else to watch.
VODs flatline after 1-2 weeks. The video from here >>41006148 had 800k after a day. It now has 950k after 7 months. Whoa, look at that growth over time that streams are known for!

>>41012751
no no no
link the thread from the screenshot first

Holoniggers’ bots malfunctioning, nothing new

>>41003229
>literally everything is a conspiracy to you people
yeah sure sister
im sure this is just a conspiracy

>>41013134
>>>/vt/thread/S15829705#p15834226
here comes the spoon, faggot

>>41013265
how's salome?

>>41013421
>>>/vt/thread/S15829705#p15834226
Retard. This is about the recent youtube issue that banned people from chatting when they spammed too much emotes and simply how NOT to be marked as a bot for it.

>>41013447
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un9i_pKW-l0

doing great, thanks

>>41013447
How about her?

>>41013065
VoDs that get views over time:
- Talents with fanbase distributed across all the time zones
- Concerts
- ASMR
- Big collabs with good moments
- basically anything with replay value

Elira getting less views per hour than Pekora unboxing crap is grim as fuck.

>>41012897
There's no need to wait.
That picture already shows a 5 month old anniversary concert catching up to her birthday from last year. Contradicting your "vod cull" crap.
Her birthday from 2 days ago was the rabbit's best concert yet and will catch up to her birthday from last year in just a few months. Because there's no one is cull her views.

>>41013622
>didn't even read the thread even though you asked for it
holobrainrot

The same is happening to all vtubers on YT. Not as much churn and less people watching VODS. iShowSpeed got his highest VOD views in his entire career during this "VOD" cull". Its all cope. Vtubers are no longer as successful as they once were.

>>41014151
The reality of the situation won't be realized by them for another 12 months don't bother

>>41013851
>- Talents with fanbase distributed across all the time zones
>- Concerts
>- Big collabs with good moments
>- basically anything with replay value
All false, only ASMR gets crazy views over time, aside from that one all of these flatline after 1-2 weeks. This only tells me that you're a fucking chumbud because only you keep rewatching the same old VODs for months, everyone else is too busy with current streams to watch a month old VOD

>>41014151
>said the exact thing the first time vtubers got culled
>vtubers grew to pre-culled numbers again and surpassed it
>said the exact same thing after CCVID
>vtubers grew to pre-culled numbers again and surpassed it again
You'll be right one day gramps

>>41013661
>13K views
Anon I...

>>41013851
>That picture already shows a 5 month old anniversary concert catching up to her birthday from last year
Anon... Sit down for this...

>>41013897
How so? They are talking about how to be counted as a viewer by the youtube system which shadowbans them.
Not how to bot which you seemed to imply faggot.

>>41013851
That 5 month old live has been "catching up" for 5 months now.

>>41014151
Not really. Nijisanji has barely been culled compared to holo. Ishowspeed is not culled at all what are you even on about?

>>41015063
> https://www.youtube.com/@usadapekora/streams
> Sort by Popular
> Concerts
> Big and small collabs with good moments
> Replay value stuff: 3rd gen announcement, PekoMom reveal.

OP, you're in a loop >>41010332

>>41014151
>iShowSpeed got his highest VOD views in his entire career during this "VOD" cull"
Who? The vod cull applies to hololive i dont care about your flesh faggots

>>41017040
>everyone i dont like is OP waaaaah

>>40999177
>the video that was up for 18 hours and is less than an hour has more views than one that was up for 6 and twice the length
Why does this need a thread? It is the first 3d showcase for nijiEN as well no shit people will check it. Pekora's views will likely eclipse it in time anyway. Retard

>>41017218
itt OP stands for retarded newfag, OP

>>41017333
lmao your seethe is amusing
dance some more little monkey

What am i seeing here? It's a first 3d debut stream so there's bound to be more tourists checking in compare to your daily normal stream.

>>41017040
No fucking shit retard, ALL of those had massive VOD views week 1. You proved your own point wrong by being a fucking retarded newfag, that Moona collab had 1M views week one and only got 300k more after 2 years, Pekomom had 1M views day 2 and kept growing another 300k the rest of the week.

>>41017290
It's been 13 hours already and if you weren't so retarded you would have checked the archive and seen that it's at 466K views. Yet despite being a retard you keep calling others retarded. Curious.
Also longer videos logically will have more views not less, you got it all wrong.

>it must be the youtube overlords and not just regression to the mean after an insanely dominant 2020-2022 run for a niche genre of entertainment

>>41018223
It wasn't a daily normal stream tourist-kun.

ITT: Nijiniggers damage controlling and acting retarded.
So like in all threads.

>>41019028
yeah, they're the ones claiming hololive is being persecuted by pajeet bots

It's oddly heartwarming that all of the tourists from 2019/2020 have managed to maintain their retarded traditions for future /vt/ generations to enjoy

>>41019133
Beautiful showcase of anons point, thank you.

>>41018307
pics in the next reply?

>>41019455
>Everyone pointing numberfag holodrones mental illness is a nijinigger
Nice cope.

I pray every day for a Great Flood to permanently submerge Indonesia for all time.

>>41018646
This but unironically as shown>>40999177
>>40999288
>>41000035
>>41001957
Not like that anon would understand anyways.

>>41019749
Stop projecting monkey

>>41016633
>didn't read the threads
maybe if you stopped drinking your SEA sewage you'd have a working brain

>>41019651
>5 days after
>the very next day
>2 days after
Now kill yourself

>>41022743
oof
nijichinks?
our response?

>>40999177
>>40999288
So another crash coming? lmao

>>41024841
The crash happened already with vod cull at the end of 2022
notice how all vods are lower than they used to

>>41027217
andthat's despite ccv remaining the same which is the weird part

>>41019440
Gotta pass the time somehow

>proof is posted
>schizo disappears
Well that was still fun to see at least

>>41027217
>>41027480
B O T S

>>41029222
schizo BTFO
you love to see it

>>40999387
You retards were gleeing over your first gold but the rabbit showd you your place again stay down nijinigger

>>40999785
It's not one video retard this has been happening for months now

>>41032886
what the fuck are you talking about?

>>41003025
Retard this is a definite example of cull no numberfag would compare a nijien female to pekora there is no competition here pekora mogs all vtubers in the industry

>>41004165
That's not how views work

>>41011217
God I wish I made that post. I have never seen someone so mindbroken over such petty shit.

>>41008402
Fucking retard 70k people aren't on 4chan how are they supposed to take ss right after a live

>>41014151
Except this isn't the first time this has happened it will be proved again after 6 months just like CCVID

>>41002753
It's quite simple, China is suffering from covid, population getting older, not enough people having children, can't produce enough energy nor food to sustain themselves

>>41002848
>Explain why
Californian trannies hate anime because they can't use it to push their agenda unless it is a netflix exclusive

>>41000035
>>40999177
Susan's AI is very good at deleted bot views because of K-pop fan but not CCV, seem like hololive is botting here, also despite of their huge CCV, hololive rarely is on the top of japanese's trending vid while niji or other japanese youtubers are constantly on top of it with lower CCV
hololive is using bot

numberfags are mentally ill. please stay in your containment thread christ. if the mods were based we'd still have ringo and meat on this board and the numbers thread on trash where it belongs

>>41038007
>hololive rarely is on the top of japanese's trending vid
The trending page is manually curated.

>>41009281
>Onemillionsubscribers
holy esl, you don't know japanese

>>41038579
>wa wa wa the pajeets at youtube office are manipulating the number to hurt my idol's career

>>40999446
based

>>41000041
>with adblockers?
I don't think anybody ever managed to find proof for that.

>>40999682
Daily of hololive fan

>>41038479
>friendly threads that promote unity and shine spotlights on lesser known vtubers
>permanently banished to other boards
>tribalistic number thread full of antis that literally organize raids on other threads when pekora doesn't win the daily autism award
>staunchly defended and allowed to persist into perpetuity
Makes absolutely no sense.

>>40999177
>What is youtube preparing for the end of 2023??
JP7

>>41038007
Look at this retard. Trends are manually curated newfag.
And if holo uses bots why havent the vods before 2023 been culled?

>>41038007
>Susan's AI is very good at deleted bot views
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Nijiniggers and their lies you love to see it.

>>41013360
>no reply
They know when they got caught.

>>40999442
>Niji out of nowhere
Go look at the image OP posted retard

>>41022743
With pics we can talk data.
Only the peko moona stream didn't get significant views over time and got 90% on the same day. This is the case for most regular streams which are watched by core fanbase (nousagis) and their respective regional holobox. PekoMoona got views from the entire global holobox and no one else.
PekoMari, is a regular stream with a lot of added value. It doubled its views after the first few days. Kino = views over time. Same shit with PekoMama which gained way more views than the usual. These vods reach people outside the holobox.

>>41008041
Elira 553k views. 32k more views. That's 2,3k views/hour over the last 14hrs.
Elira 3D debut has slowed down 10%.

Now, the culled hololive vtuber.
Pekora 515k views. 61k more views. That's 4,3k views/hour over the last 14hrs.
Pekora's regular stream slowed down, omg, a whopping exact 10% too.

As we can see, the data is lying. Hololive is being punished by Susan far more than nijisanji. Proof: that's what OP's voices are telling us and we should believe them.

Fuck youtube

>>40999177
UPDATE
As you can see after over 24 hours Pekora has less views than Elira had after 18 hours despite Pekora having 30% bigger CCV and two times longer stream.

>>41051366
>PekoMari, is a regular stream with a lot of added value. It doubled its views after the first few days. Kino = views over time. Same shit with PekoMama which gained way more views than the usual. These vods reach people outside the holobox.
Oh so now over time = a week or two instead of months. I'm glad we could agree that your argument that the VOD would catch up after a few months is debunked now

>>41046668
Kill yourself, you're the one not making any sense.

>>41053566
>and two times longer stream.
That's probably the reason. Youtube only increases the viewcount if you watch a certain percentage of the video. Longer videos require more watch time to increase the view count.

>>41053566
>Anon does not know that viewcount is based on a percentage of the stream watched, which means you have to watch much less of Elira's to be counted
Jesas Nijikeks really are retarded

>>41055524
Source?

HOLY SHIT YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!
NIJINIGGER MEIDO IS DELETING POSTS IN THIS THREAD POINTING OUT THE CULL
GO CHECK FOR YOURSELF >>/vt/thread/S40999177#p41001524
Look at all the delete posts. They want to control the narration ahahaha. You know for a fact now the cull is real if meido goes out of his way to delete all these posts.
I got banned by nijimeido faggot for posting the niji discord leak where they get paid to literally shit up threads
You can't make this shit up.
I'm reporting this shit nijimeido!

>>40999682
This but also the fact that Nijisanji bought exclusive topics on Twitter until Elon must took over Twitter, and they most likely did the same thing with YouTube given that some shit 3D from them can easily get into the top tendencies in Japan, but Hololive with much better viewership and interactions struggle to reach the same top tendencies.

>>41055946
Dumb fuck, you was never a part of this conversation. Read the thread before bringing in your tribalfaggotry because he is defending hololive you absolute retard.

>>41000698
>>41000746
>>41000812
>>41000817
>>41000831
>>41000865
The discord raid

>>41056716
>keep repeating same rrat like a parrot while providing no backup proof.
You sure show them retardchama

>>40999177
>That watch to like ratio with Pekora
Jesus fuck, how much is Hololive botting her?

>>/vt/thread/S40999177

>>41056900
It's literally a fact.
Hoolive didnt have a topic until elon bought twitter
but ok keep coping

>>41022743
oof
nijichinks?
our response?

>>41055524
>>41055946
Complete bullshit retard, why are you making shit up that doesn't even make sense?

>>41057162
>still no proof
>c-cope
It’s just keep coming

>>41057271
Why are you angry?

>>41001555
>>41003229
>>/vt/thread/S40999177
for further proof

>>41057261
>>41051366
Holoniggers are illiterate from the SEA sewage water they drink or something

>>41057326
Everybody knows that holo didnt have a twitter topic you fucking newfag.

>>41057600
>everyone knows [insert rrat here]
>no proof
You can’t just make shit up and go with it anon.

>>41057503
Retard. Your point was already disproven. >>41053795

>>41057655
>rrat
lmao you people are actually mentally deranged/
Next thing your gonna say is that the sky isn't blue.
Are you the same subhuman trash that posted cp the other day?

>>41057706
What cp? Why are you trying to derail the convo you monkey brain? Just provide proof or fuck off.

>>41057931
Do your archive reps. It was discussed when it happenend. Won't spoonfeed a newfag

>>41000865
Apologize! >>41053566

>>40999845
>bots
Lmao stop projecting nijichink

>>41058018
>no proof
>off topic
>d-d-do reps
classic deflection.

>>41003856
nice argument fag

>>41000374
>hololive being culled by algo changes and ccvid
>nijisanji virtually untouched
>holos shadowbanned on twitter
>nijisanji constantly on trending and recs
>"THiS hOlOFaG boRdeRliNe DeLusiOnAl"

>>41058523
I realize you just discovered this thread, but why are you chimping out on cooldown on day-old posts without providing anything of substance whatsoever. Not a good look. Take deep breaths.

>>41058350
nigger you are asking of proof that holos didnt have a topic until elon bought twitter. do you even read what you type before posting? everyone can check twitter topics. it's not a fucking secret. The whole twitter thing was even trending. Are you from yesterday?

>>41058649
WHy are you bothered by it?
What are you scared of?

This thread is thrash and I blame nijisanji fans for this retarded console war, they made fun of Holofans everyday back in /jp/ they started this shit

>>41058792
I’m amused by it. Thanks for admitting it. Continue sperging nonsensically if you want

>>41058929
The worst "fans"
Cant have a discussion without them invading like chimps and sperging out

Can you stop this now? It’s getting tiresome at this point.

>>41059043
But you’re the one samefagging and sperging and deflecting now. Nice projection. Now make a new comment not replying to me and pretend it’s someone else.

>>41059113
LMAO look at this faggot
Look at this thread and who was chimping out
Also stop projecting

>>41059269
>no u
concession accepted! easy

>>41059113
Looking at the amount of deleted posts which didnt break any rules tells exactly who sperged out
>>/vt/thread/S40999177

>>41059336
yeah sure nijinigger sure
no arguments as always only deflecting

>>41059450
stopped counting at 12 anti-niji, 2 anti-holo, 5 neutral
please calm down

The big next culling is that when a vtuber gets a VOD or stream demonetized, youtube will chargeback them, meaning it could put a lot of vtubers in debt.

>>41059634
thanks for proving my point

>>41059680
That is just waiting to be abused.

>>41055946
And what was the percentage of stream watched in pekora's case? and what percentage is needed to count as a view?
a lot of assumptions with no data. All i see is pekora having higher average ccv which implies longer viewtime than elira
check mate
>>41000865
>28 hours ago
Who's the retard now?

Nijifags have been completely btfo'd this thread holy shit

>>41061870
Your last and final cope

>>41063497
>there is only 1 person itt