/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40908942
It's just a pure coincidence, schizo.

Who cares? Watch whatever stream you want

>>40908942
>Outfit reveal
>3D debut
If anything that should fuck over Irys. Or is Elira that weak that she can't perform without Holo tourists?

>>40908942
>I thought they were cool after the collabs?
who's "they"? you mean just the really select few that bother?

>>40909080
>Or is Elira that weak that she can't perform without Holo tourists?
It's this. Around half of her viewers are holofans according to stats, which makes sense considering she's the closest NijiEN has to a holo chuuba.

Since this thread is here I'll just take it as an opportunity to shill why you should give Elira a try if you haven't instead of rolling around in the inevitable muck of shitposting.
She sings good.
https://youtu.be/uY_K46D71Cc
She has a nice voice.
https://streamable.com/ff7byl
https://streamable.com/ugkykn
Her laugh is infectious.
https://youtu.be/QuHl5eC3ZWQ
https://youtu.be/DzVI1Urqx8o
She's cute
https://youtu.be/DiL9m05G07g
She appreciates her fans
https://youtu.be/uJzu4NidIP4
Her reactions to games are hilarious
https://youtu.be/kKi6Hko3eFM
Don't care about who "wins". I'm just happy my oshi is getting 3D. Hope irys fans like her outfit and have a fun time watching that too if that's what you're watching.

>>40908942
What do you mean, sister? Niji is the biggest vtuber company surely IRyS is the one getting fucked over

>>40909382
Does she collabs with m*les?

>>40908942
better, purer hafu is on the left keep coping nijiniggers

>>40908942
Can't make this shit up kek

>>40909332
This has always been a management war

>>40909442
of course she does she's in niji

>>40909471
I'll pass then. Once a whore, always a whore.

>>40909080
Elira isnt anything special. Lazulight is first EN niji branch, but she doesnt do much compared to virtually everyone else minus Finana.

>>40908942
Pomu would absolutely destroy IRyS

>>40909516
>she doesnt do much
Elira streamed the most of any NijiEN/HoloEN member last year?

>>40909680
looks like they are saving gura for that then

>>40909751
Sitting in front of a pc and playing games isn't doing much, yes.

>>40909754
Oh yeah, I could see that happen

>>40909809
That's literally the job. She did the job the most out of anyone at a major EN corporation.

>>40908942
Please understand, IRyS is a numberwhore and the En management is scared people will start questioning where are the Holo En 3D

>>40909906
Elira is a lazy whore that didn't even do solo streams while in Japan because she hates her fans.

>>40909751
I'm referring to content variety, not stream hours.

Please nijiniggers, can you move your prerecorded 3D stream to other day??

>>40909906
A 1 hour Pomu CREATIVIDAD stream is worth more than entire month of normiedragonwhore's streams.

>>40909953
If Elira is lazy then I guess the entirety of NijiEN and HoloEN is lazy considering they couldn't beat her lazy hours.

>>40910074
Not an argument fagelira

See this is what I am talking about. Irys fags falseflaggibg as Pomudachis. Fucking kill yourselves

>>40910177
This is just a regular shitposter from the NijiEN thread who doesn't like Elira.

>>40908942
>IRyS stream
>"look at my slightly animated PNG wiggle" and talk still looking like an ugly freak due to the artist
>Elira
>3D full body capture that we genuinely have no idea what she has planned to do.

It's a no contest which is going to be more entertaining to watch. IRyS at least will be able to use her outfit anytime she wants so there's no rush to see it.

>>40909054
>coincidence
Elira's 3D stream being given a public date almost a month ago. We all know who picked the date second.
I bet there will be more another outfit reveal next saturday and the one after from hololive too in an attempt to drop Finana/Pomu's 3D debuts.

>>40909754
They'll probably not overlap finana, who has been doing poorly, to not look like they are doing it intentionally too.

Who literally gives a fuck?

Well, besides mega autists.

>>40909363
>she's the closest NijiEN has to a holo chuuba.
She streams though? That's literally the furthest you can get from being like HoloEN

>>40908942
NijiEN barely exists in holoEN's mind

>>40910625
They better not try to, it's a stacked weekend.

>>40908942
I'm still gonna watch IRys' reveal but I think Elira's 3D will win in numbers on this one considering its 3D.

>>40910918
That's probably true for most of them, but NijiEN absolutely lives in HoloEN managment's head rent free. Seems Gawr Gura [no streaming] always has time for a guerilla whenever there's a new wave debut.

Niji has been trying to advertise her reveal to their japanese audience, because the EN audience isn't big enough to compete. They will probably lose the numbers war, but it really depends how many Kuzuha fans they can get in there to watch

>>40908942
HoloEN and NijiEN are both vtuber companies so regardless of the occasional joint statement HoloEN will always do everything possible to undermine their competition.

>>40909054
Irys also overlapped a NijiEN outfit reveal with her last outfit reveal. She's 2 for 2.

>>40911472
Nah, this might aswell more be a coincidence considering that most of these streams were planned before when she was still making schedules.

>>40911640
It's not an overlap before tho since she was 1hr+ earlier than millie's.

>>40911804
For Iluna she literally changed her stream time at the last second from on the hour to quarter past the hour to match with the first debut stream starting then exactly.

>>40911863
And it was a 2hr outfit reveal stream...

>>40909751
selen pomu, name a best duo in this industry.

>>40908942
The Nijis said it feels like an all out war, so HoloEN decided to make it one.

>>40912043
she was already done by then tho, if people stayed for the after-reveal talks then they would.
Not her fault if people rather listen to her tangents than millie's reveal right?

>>40908942

>>40912018
maybe look at the image your friend posted first
this is what happens when you just hand out gift cards to a bunch of uncoordinated retards

>>40908942
It's more entertaining this way desu but that's just me, I think most people rather they play nice.

>>40909363
Most overlap is actually Selen.

>>40912018
The stream would still overlap if she didn't change it tho, and when she did, she used that time until she took her break.
So it still looks like a coincidence to me, if someone in niji debuted in nighttime jst and she suddenly streamed at that time, then I would believe the rrat, but for now its a coincidence to me anon.

>>40908942
>nooo give me free numbers!
cope and dilate nijitroon

>>40912217
i simply can't, it's hard to top their synergy

>>40912397
It's all a big coincidence that for 5/6 of NijiEN debuts the biggest HoloEN member who hardly streams just happened to stream right then.

>>40908942
IRyS will go for that 8pm ET slot even if it means overlapping her senpai. The only one she's scared of is Gura

Merely a coinkydink, only conspiracyfags look for repeating patterns.

>>40908942
I mean, there's no way at all this was done without design right?

>>40909751
I will now watch Elira.

Holoniggers are desperate to maintain their failed EN branch image, why else?

>>40909994
Why couldn't IRyS and HoloEN management do this when Elira booked the time slot first?

>>40910668
I unironically discuss numbers with my bros IRL. It's a fun topic actually. I'm a Famelira and my 2 friends are a Pomudachi and Dragoon.

>>40912707
I really do not like how she just started randomly streaming (not like she has been streaming much to begin with) at that time slot. Just disrespectful to Gura (who is pretty much the entire brand Hololive has left) IMO

>>40912397
I never really got why people want to say all of this is coincidence so much for some reason. Its not evil or anything even of it does suck for the talents involved. It's just good business sense. If your competitor is doing a big event that might attract new fans from your camp it only makes sense to put something popular on against it to stem any potential for handing fans over to them through inactivity.

>>40911472
Missing the fish tank stream that moved over to overlap with the LazuLight debuts too.

>>40912987
>I'm a Famelira and my 2 friends are a Pomudachi and Dragoon.
That's nice. Hope they're good friends.

>>40908942
Easy, just do the multi-stream trick. You don't need to choose either stream.

>>40913196
Thanks, I knew there was something overlapping Lazulight but I couldn't remember what

>>40913052
You mean HoloEN, since HoloJP has Pekora, Marine (Does not stream much), Subaru and Miko

>>40911472
>16k
>20k
>66k
You can't contain it.

HoloBrony here.
Will be watching both.

>>40913052
The only thing Gura has got is subs. The JP girls dominate everything else with a much smaller potential base to watch them. You can't compare any EN vtuber to a JP one. EN are all small fries, hence why Kuzuha took it upon himself to advertise EN 3D.

>>40913555
>>40913696
Do people really watch JP though? I don't see it get talked about as much as EN, which dominates lots of mindshares both here and on social media.

>>40914199
Considering this board thought Maria would be a carrier can't say I'm surprised. Guess this just proves OP right again.

>>40908942
So that Cover can lower the CCV of the outfit reveal. They can then use that as an excuse to release more EN Star

>>40914092
Are you telling me an English website will be talking more about English vtubers than other languages? Color me surprised.

>>40912987
>fagelira aren't numberf-ACK

>>40909751
GO MAGNI GOOOOO MAGUNUIII

>>40914092
>Muh EOP side of social media and /vt/ to measure popularity of JP VTubers instead of looking at CCV and total views
God you are a retard

>>40908942
as if some new outfit can beat Nijiens first FULL 3D REVEAL

This is what Holobronies do best. They are the most malicious people. Fuck IRyS btw, she herself asked her manger to clash with Elira. I hope she gets absolutely assblasted this time

>>40914199
>exact same time offset 10 minutes
My sides, why does Cover act like scared bitches

>>40914199
JUST A COINCIDENCE.

Nijisisters say all this but keep forgetting the Fungus Covid stream during tempus debuts.
There has to be a limit for this kind of hypocrisy

>>40914955
Well I hope you are right, since it will be the story of how IRyS flew too close to the sun, nah who am I trying to kid, IRyS is going to lie and say she did not know about Elira's 3D debut and her simps will eat it up

>>40915175
Fungus Covid isn't relevant enough to be an actual problem

>>40909751
boring Xenoblade streamer

>>40909382
>collabs with males
I have no interest in whores

Manalyn stop being so upset. Your parents are tired of buying steam gift cards for you to distribute to your sweatshop discord of samefagging nijifags.

>Gets 3D before HoloEN
>Will have higher CCV than HoloEN with the reveal
>More 3Ds on the way
NijiEN won. IRyS losing to Elira today will be the death knell of the dessicated corpse that is HoloEN. Can't wait to watch the Holofags cry out in pain as they watch the empire they built up all these years crash and burn in real time

>>40908942
Management are the ones who decide the date and hours big streams like this happen. Trying to overlap big events is nothing new, remember the Niji JP gen that debuted at the same time as Holofes? Same for EN3, Cover is waiting for Niji to have a big EN event to overlap them with the debuts

>>40914199
Yo that's actually cutthroat wtf

>>40915491
Then it sounds like HoloEN management is the problem here. Maybe they should be a little more respectful to their peers.

>>40915491
Why are Cover such little bitches?

Some people in /hirys/ suggest that it's Omega who is setting up IRyS to fail and well... it's working. Point's moot though, IRyS has no fans outside there here.

>>40915666
Makes sense. Irys refuse after all to acknowledge his precious homos.

>>40915491
Honestly if they wanted to look good they would have given IRyS tomorrow at the same time slot. I genuinely do not understand why they decided to hold the showcase the exact same day as Elira's 3D, which is guaranteed to be the bigger deal amongst neutrals.

>>40915175
His schedule for that stream was already out a day before the Tempus debut announcement so he wouldn't have known to overlap.
https://twitter.com/Fulgur_Ovid/status/1548353552115871744/photo/2

>>40915449
Good riddance, EN Management will finally be seen as the incompetent retards that they are

>>40911804
Nah, even chumbuds realize that Gura is doing this on purpose, it happen literally every single time.
She was also visibly annoyed that she wasn't allowed to overlapped Tempus, and started streaming more during Council debut week. Gura clearly not dumb, she doesn't want to lose her audience to any new blood.

>>40915792
>neutrals
This isn't about them, this is about making sure as many Hololive fans avoid watching Nijisanji as possible

>>40915862
I don't see the stream that actually overlapped Magni debut. The unarchived karaoke one.

I also wonder if EN management also sacrificed IRyS to avoild the humiliation if Elira's 3D gets not only just Gold for the day, but surpasses Pekora's birthday live.

>>40915916
Yeah and it explains my point here too>>40915994

>>40914199
holy fuck

>>40915886
Gura acts dumb, but she's deceptively clever. She can play off any mistakes as her being stupid. If you pay attention to her, she's constantly either undermining new debuts or taking the wind out of their sails during their debut buff period (like she did with Council). She's probably going to do a return stream the day lafter EN3 debuts to draw more eyes to her, and will overlap several of their streams. She wants to steal new fans from the cradle

For those of you who don't know, this outfit reveal was originally planned for next week's Saturday stream but IRyS pushed it on Friday of this week because it's a fucking new years out fit
>>40915491
>>40915666
>>40915666
Are lying

This is for Finana overlapping Kawaii 3d debuts.

>>40916144
Why did she push it ahead then? Makes no fucking sense at all when Elira's 3D Live was supposed to be the event of the day. What is she scared of?

>>40909382
No thanks, she collabs with men too much

>>40909056
spbp

>>40915449
There never was a Hololive empire. It was just Chinese Clippers making it popular in the first place.

>>40916144
>IRyS, who has never shown the initiative to change her schedule, suddenly decides to change her schedule to perfectly overlap Elira's 3D, which is a highly publicized event that will likely pull in tourists and some of the Holo fan base
DYRBI

>>40916189
Because she doesn't care about niji en and is doing this because it's already 13 days past the ney years. She is doing this for her fans and not anyone else.
If she were a numberfag like you nijisisters claim, she would have postponed the stream

IRyS won't even break 20K btw. And if I'm being generous, only 25K peak.

Elira is 70K min, if IRyS never held the stream today, 150K max.

>>40915958
The second image "Drunk totsu Karaoke w/ Niji EN". That's unarchived now

>>40916189
Has Irys ever reference Nijisanji? doubt she is even aware of the 3D debut.

>>40916144
Nah this is just a cope. It's either her or management that is doing this to fuck with Nijisanji and as a neutral I don't really like what Hololive did here.

>>40916273
Because it's already 13 today faggot. Are you dumb or what?
She has been telling us about the announcement for like 1.5 weeks. And no one in HIRyS discussing about numbers btw

>>40916305
But why at the EXACT SAME TIME? We know IRyS is invested in her numbers, so why would she pick that exact same time?
>>40916320
>Niji reject
You tell me

>>40915864
God willing.

>>40916346
>Been telling about a special announcement for 1.5 weeks
>I don't like what Hololive did
>>40916391
>But why at the EXACT SAME TIME?
Because it's the prim en time
>We know IRyS is invested in her numbers, so why would she pick that exact same time?
Show me more than one instance where she talked about numbers

Post your pre-emptive copes for why IRyS lost to Elira.

>>40916449
Couldn't she have at least postponed it or at least hold onto the date it was originally scheduled for? I didn't know Elira's 3D was also planned for the same day. And if she's invested in her numbers, why is she taking on such a big challenge she's certain to fail in here? Something is clearly not right with IRyS since she got the new model. I'm sorry, but you're just going to have to connect the dots here. I see nothing but pure jealousy on IRyS's end and management is scared that its losing more and more fans to NijiEN, a recurring trend since July 2021.

>>40916449
>prime EN time
And another thing; this was Gura's predetermined timeslot. Is she really desperate for fans she has no chance of obtaining since Chumbuds admittedly despise IRyS?

>>40916538
>>40916538
>Couldn't she have at least postponed it or at least hold onto the date it was originally scheduled for?
Why should she?
It's a new years outfit reveal for a reason. Is she cared about numbers she would have
>And if she's invested in her numbers, why is she taking on such a big challenge she's certain to fail in here? Something is clearly not right with IRyS since she got the new model. I'm sorry, but you're just going to have to connect the dots here. I see nothing but pure jealousy on IRyS's end and management is scared that its losing more and more fans to NijiEN, a recurring trend since July 2021.
Are you dumb or what?
If she was actually numberfagging she would have postponed he reveal. The only reason she is doing this is because she wants to present the newyears outfit near the new years date.
If that's the reason why did Fungus Covid stream at Tempus debut? At the exact same time?

>>40916449
Just look at her streaming patterns, times, etc. It's all there. She only cares about her numbers and it's nothing but a losing battle she's fighting. Everyone knows it. Even Irystocrats.

>>40916189
It's Niji event, not Holo. NijiJp have weekly events, do you think HoloJp need to stop streaming?

lol
lmao

>>40916634
Sister you are trying too fucking hard. Gura is not streaming so stop with your
>Chumbuds despise her cope
I am a chumbud btw, so stop shit posting and pretending you know things. Just admit you hate IRyS

>>40916669
I'm suggesting she postpone it actually. I'm concerned that if she doesn't have a good reveal then she'll go on another break and the rrats will keep flourishing.

>>40916704
>Nijisisters fail to provide any source for the information like always
Btw there are plenty of her streams during JP times, so I don't understand who are you fooling sister

>>40916708
More like Hololive needs to actually stream since they barely do. Everyone in Nijisanji that matters streams every day.

>>40916669
>If that's the reason why did Fungus Covid stream at Tempus debut? At the exact same time?
Fulgur scheduled his stream before Tempus was announced.
>>40915862
Where as Hololive has established a pattern of repeatedly changing streams and having sudden guerilla streams from bigger members to overlap big NijiEN events.

>>40908942
single screen/ shiternet anons seething

>>40916767
Anom, you have been successfully been brianwashed by these nijiniggers spreading rrats about IRyS. I am a Holo fan and like Lazulight and Obsydia, but the Nijiggers are actually assholes.
They have been spreading false rrats a out Brian and how she ignores her friends to the point she had to address the situation on stream.
The Nijisanji fans really really seem to hate IRyS and it's showing in this thread because of the toxic rrats

>>40915862
Except there's a history of HoloEN trying to overlap with NijiEN and no amount of damage control can bail you out. They know they've lost half of their original fanbase to Nijisanji, losing more would be their ultimate death knell.

>>40909492
>>40915356
>>40916190
I didn't know IRyStocrats were unicorns...

>>40916910
I don't even know what Brian means and I think HoloEN management does intentionally try to overlap big NijiEN events. It's just happened way too many times far too conveniently for it all to be accidental. It's not even an outlandish idea, it seems like what you would obviously want to do. Why would you give free reign to your competition to get as many eyes on them as possible.

>>40916944
>Not knowing that IRyStocrats are unicorns
How?

>>40914199
When things are said and done when Gura graduates it would be interesting if we end up getting some nuggets of information behind the scenes.

It must be something to be treated by the EN managemente as the primordial EN soldier only for them to end up cutting your 3D birthday live in half.

I just hope IRyS gets bullied on stream today to the point she graduates. I will be anting her for a long time

>>40913332
Too much logic, brain unable to comprehend, ALL OUT WAR.

You have to wonder whether IRyS feels bad about being made to do something as underhanded as this. She's literally being used as a tool to undermine someone else's big moment. If it was me I'd tell the management to fuck off and reschedule it.

>>40909516
> Elira isnt anything special
Luxiemsister, you say this shit about Elira ever again and the next time you see you’ll family it will be in cold storage at your local morgue

>>40917011
I don't know watch her much? I know she has a good singing voice and that's it.

>>40914092
Holo watch jp and id, despite it an eop board, still easy to get news from global.

>>40917060
Spreading rrats again, huh
>>40917032
Actual fucking nigger behaviour. This is what I said. The nijiniggers are actual subhumans

>>40913600
2022 AP (Anno Pomini)
War was declared

>>40914199
Bro, it just minecraft, why you have to be mad.

>>40917060
if she can manage to undermine eliras big 3d moment then thats quite impressive. Except she won't be able to

>>40917159
She shouldn't have overlapped with Elira. She knows it's her special day, yet she tries to squeeze in the numbers. She is a numberfag and deserves the hate she is getting

Nijiniggers are absolutely pathetic.

>>40917159
NTA, but you faggots deserve this. All of you holofags if you all truly support Vtubing for good should watch Eliras 3D over a new outfit as its first official 3D

>>40916273
It was Cover that made this decision and IRyS wouldn't lower her viewer numbers just to hurt a NijiEN 3D reveal. The late Saturday time is the optimum time to get both English and Japanese viewers since it is a Sunday morning in Japan. While a new outfit would never get the same interest as a redesign this specific time slot will reduce the CCV by at least 30%.

I preferred it when nobody pretended to care about my oshi for the sake of using her 3D debut to annoy as many people as possible but that's just me. You'll all go on replying to these people as of they're legitimate and not just arguing about something they don't even care about for the sake of getting a rise out of people on 4chan even when you know that's what they're doing. Because ultimately you're doing the same from the other side.

muh don't overlap bros

>>40917496
imagine having streamers that actually stream

>>40917060
Talents compete amongst themselves too just like everybody else, you know. Doesn’t mean anybody involved is a sociopath.

>>40915004
Why do you talk like any holofag gonna watch some1 from niji? Delusional much? You guys care too much of this console war. It not like any holo ever relied on tourist, they have their own box and tourist are just a bonus, only nijisanji relied on tourist for number. A 3d debut cry over an outfit, when everyone know 3d debut will have higher number.

>>40917496
>male overlap
idc

The absolute gall to think either will get close to Pekora is delightful

>>40917381
Watch streams nimi sister, or atleast check your sources

itt numbertrannies LARP as Holofags and Nijifags

>>40915541
>peer
Kek, why another company want to dictate a decision from another. Just do better and move on. It not like there big overlap between the 2 company anyway.

Looks like NijiJp want to fuck NijiEn too?

>>40917581
Elira could have very well broken Pekora's birthday numbers if IRyS didn't stream.

>>40915004
I literally never watch Niji, if this thread didnt exist I would never have known of the overlap even...

>>40917763
>Elira is as popular as Kuzuha
RUMAO

>>40917816
kuzuha shilled her 3d stream

>>40917763
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>>40917763
HAHAHHAHAHA is that en tard really the scapegoat for all of your problems?
Your Niji wouldn't beat Pekora in a 100 years

>>40917692
Based Debi putting Elira in her place desu

>>40917816
Kuzuha promoted her stream. Buckle up. Hypothetically she could have very well gotten 150K if IRyS didn't decide to stream.

People will believe the most retarded things are said in earnest if they want to believe it

>>40917885
you are delusional as hell if this aint a meme

>>40917839
Okay but that does not make her as popular as Kuzuha, because not all Kuzuha viewers are going to watch Elira be fucking realistic

>>40917885
>irys is the voldemort to Nijifags and the reason they'll never beat pekora
Utter mental illness. Stop blaming some lowtier en for all of your own problems faggot.
You should be channelling that anger at the people actually mogging you

>>40917958
It's almost as of it's someone being retarded on purpose.

>>40916538
Why this seem important to you? Just watch who you want, holofan will watch holo, niji will watch niji, tourist will watch 3d debut. There will be a point that every event will have overlap in every corpo, it stupid to dictate the decision of another company. They can watch vod then if they dont have another phone, problem solve.

>>40915449
I don't get why HoloEN doesn't have 3D yet, even the small corpo Kawaii is getting their talents 3D's and it's from the same people. Holo has no excuses.

>>40917885
is luxiem or other ens make an appearance she might get 150k

>>40916854
So then all these arguement are retarded, let they do what they want.

>>40918046
It isn't enough that Elira will beat Irys, she needs to beat Pekora aswell or else its a failure of a debut

>>40917955
these retards called Elira "daisenpai" they sure are bunch of delusional

>>40918084
What if all of Luxiem shows up?

>>40918088
Honestly as someone who actually watches NijiEN I have no idea what Pekora stream you guys are even talking about. I feel like this thread is just numberfags arguing with other numberfags for the sake of it at this point.

If Luxiem has a segment in Elira's 3D Live then it may be the first ever NijiEN 100K+ stream

>>40917032
Nijinig and bullying people to "graduate" classic.
People with inferiority complex like you can't understand that people can watch whatever they want, they don't live in west taiwan that need constant permission to stream.

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>>40911472
Nijiniggers are absolute retards and biggest hypocrites with a Massive persecution complex. Today I'll remind them.
-Nijisanji has been overlapping Hololive events since forever. Eg debuting their new wave during holo expo.
-You had a discord leak which revealed your livers shit talking Hololive.
-One of your high profile Liver literally covered an anti song about a Hololive member and uploaded it in his channel.
-Luca using Hololive member's exclusive BGM without permission.
-And iluna's announcement being so close to Tempus's and guess what Tempus announced their debut first.
-And when Kuzuha tried to support Coco when she was getting persecuted it was Nijisanji who forced him to stop.

gwelu being high profile is a new one for me, his solo streams often struggle to break 1k

>-Nijisanji has been overlapping Hololive events since forever. Eg debuting their new wave during holo expo.
Proof?
>You had a discord leak which revealed your livers shit talking Hololive.
Partially disproven and Fulgur apologized
>One of your high profile Liver literally covered an anti song about a Hololive member and uploaded it in his channel.
So? He apologized for that
>Luca using Hololive member's exclusive BGM without permission.
Royalty-free music isn't exclusive
>And iluna's announcement being so close to Tempus's and guess what Tempus announced their debut first.
Oh come on that's ridiculous. Iluna was planned well ahead before Tempus came on the scene.
>And when Kuzuha tried to support Coco when she was getting persecuted it was Nijisanji who forced him to stop.
You're literally making this one up.

>>40917955
Fagelira are some of the most retarded and delusional nijien fans in existence.

>>40918277
>SEApe ESL
Opinion discarded

>>40917128
>Luxiemsister,
>ESL as fuck
Stop pretending you chinese watch Niji girls.

>>40917466
Well that what happen when you in a containment board, these retards talk like this overlapping decision will have any effect. The only known effect are these retard won't even watch the stream.

>Nobody even mentioning that Subaru (who gets significantly more viewers than either of them) is streaming over both of them
Realistically Subaru is going to mog both of their reveals kek

>>40917527
Can't stream cuz nijifag going nut if some holo overlap their stream, all out war amirite.

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>>40918477
Nijiniggers arguing for the sake of arguing. Get a better life you dumb fucks

>>40918601
Well Elira's estimate is 70K with 100K+ if the right guests appear. IRyS should be able to mog Subaru today at least.

>>40918650
Luxiem buff with eliras 3d reveal is all she needs to get to 150k minimum. The chinks will watch anything with luxiem

>>40917885
So this is your cope? Nijifag are too pathetic to cry over an overlapping stream. Why can't you just move on and enjoy the stream. Next month id gonna have outfit too, are you gonna cry again?

>>40918716
Oh yeah. I'm hoping they do show up the most.

>>40918650
You're lowballing it. Elira will mog even cocos graduation stream

>>40918716
I don't care for elira but if the boys are teased to make an appearance I might actually watch it

>>40918147
I dunno what points are you trying to make.

>>40918766
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>>40918574
It's quite bizarre really to see when it's laid this clearly out there for you that it's really just a bunch of people arguing for the sake of it over stuff very few of them are actually invested in. It's all one big charade. I hope the people participating in it are at least smart enough to realize that this thread is 90% trolls trolling trolls, falseflaggers and people being retarded on purpose.

>>40918386
>Proof?
Have you ever heard about Ranunculus?
Stupid move by niji. That just end up fucking those girls.
>Partially disproven
What the hell this even mean? We seen a leak.
>So? He apologized for that
And that somehow makes singing A FUCKING ANTI-SONG fine? Not long after his own company made statement with Cover about fighting antis.
>Royalty-free music isn't exclusive
Wasn't royalty-free. You can try to defend him, by saying he was a retard that thought this was royalty-free music, but don't try to change facts.

>>40918277
They doing the classic burger route, never admit mistake, blame everyone but themselves, going full entitlement of "you not suppose to stream, change your date NOW!"

This thread reeks of falseflaggers, but I guess # needs something to make fun of, even if they have to make the prepare the posts themselves

>>40918386
>And when Kuzuha tried to support Coco when she was getting persecuted it was Nijisanji who forced him to stop.
Kek, he backtrack that tweet so fast.

>>40919037
It's tradition at this point to falseflag to predict impossibly high numbers for Nijisanji events so you can screenshot it for everyone to laugh at later when it inevitably doesn't happen even though nobody who isn't pretending to be retarded ever expected it to.

>>40918881
Then what your point? niji will watch niji, holo will watch holo. Or are you expecting holofag to watch niji now? Tourist will watch 3d debut or you that hopeless thinking no one will watch your 3d debut.

>>40918386
>Iluna was planned well ahead before Tempus came on the scene.
tempus was planned at least before noctyx debuts.
yagoo openly said during his interview with kiara that he was going to bring homostars to the english market, and that's just the first time they talked about that openly, no idea when it was planned exactly

all out war

Are you guys seriously thinking that either company should be looking at the other's talents schedule before making their own? Are you guys really that autistic and want whatever form of drama you can make up?

>>40920132
>exact day and timeslot
what a silly coincidence!

>>40918046
As for now, it's probably the tight schedule to holofes. They could risk the debut now but they would get less CCV as expected because they missed the debut magic as they already appeared several times in many 3D concerts.
The most safe move is to do it after Holofes. Even ID managed to get quite a CCV back then.

There's also the "not streaming" problem unless they want to debut solo rather than an entire gen but that's another can of worm entirely

>>40920213
It's almost like Friday at prime time is in high demand and it's not like IRyS waited a full year for her kimono and it's already getting too late to wear one so she kind of has to do it ASAP

>>40920361
fauna wears that shit year round

>>40911640
Based. They should have an entire stockpile of outfits and reveals waiting to steal the thunder of every single Nijjer.

>>40920361
Now you reminded me that ID will get it in February. Talk about out of season lmao

>>40918277
what'a an holo expo?

>>40918716
Luxiem doesnt have this amount of power anymore

IRyS stalls like a numberfag until it's 40 minutes in , I'll watch 3D debut first then hit IRyS's when I know she's actually fucking showing the outfit

>>40908942
Oh no holoen is streaming on prime time? What are they thinking!

>>40908942
Because they both know the audience doesn't overlap.

right now it's a prime time slot so you can call it coincidence.

if major holoEN streams end up coinciding with the other two lazulight 3d reveals then there's really no point arguing about it at that point

what dream collabs do you want to see?

I think Irys + Kotoka has potential

>>40920429
Flare wore hers year round just to escape her bug face.

>>40908942
I assume hololive and nijisanji obviously don't share internal schedules across companies, and both company analytics likely indicated that this particular timeslot was the optimal time for their respective viewerbases, of which of course there is a lot of overlap.

>>40918277
based

>>40914199
jesus, are nijinegroids actually this stupid? i can't tell
literally a branch for subhuman browns

>>40914199
so did a debut lose to some fucking minecraft streams

>>40921126
retardchama... all outfit reveals follow that format

>>40923098
wrong

>>40923248
https://youtu.be/CpF8BTgAg7U?t=3165
https://youtu.be/ewss-AjRo7Y?t=2548
https://youtu.be/-9qaEobN5-8?t=2443
https://youtu.be/mM2YshQh2j4?t=2235
https://youtu.be/VmIvrUbMcQI?t=2517

>>40920361
The two holoEN streams with the highest CCV in 2022 were both on a Saturday night which is a Sunday morning in Japan.

>>40923788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UmsU-Od__M

>>40922612
You can't point out that it would be completely normal for people to schedule streams on Friday/Saturday at primetime anon, that's too much common sense for this board

>>40908942
>2am
Disgusting, West Africa Time zone

>>40918277
Sad holonigger tribalist faggot. Can’t stand to see your tribe gets fucked? Also, everything nijis did are justified and right. After all, it makes holoniggers like you foam and chimp out like retards.

>>40925096
It's central European time

>>40918277
>Nijisanji has been overlapping Hololive events since forever. Eg debuting their new wave during holo expo.
source?
>You had a discord leak which revealed your livers shit talking Hololive.
"shittalking", holotech in shambles isn't shittalking unless you are a fragile retard
>One of your high profile Liver literally covered an anti song about a Hololive member and uploaded it in his channel.
retarded EOP, its a meme to cover that anti song to make fun of the antis
>Luca using Hololive member's exclusive BGM without permission.
Hard to defend Luca but I believe the narrative was that he had a general playlist he randomly used and that BGM was in it
>And iluna's announcement being so close to Tempus's and guess what Tempus announced their debut first.
NijiEN releases livers every 3 months, iluna was well within that range, if anything Holo sought to snipe by predicting it
>And when Kuzuha tried to support Coco when she was getting persecuted it was Nijisanji who forced him to stop.
Because Kuzuha had no business in that drama, it would've just added fuel to the fire instead of just letting it end

>>40909056
best advice

>>40914199
>inb4 this tanked her growth from the start
Brutal

Irys giving the Holo folks something to watch today, she's really a Saint for this

>Elira 2,113 waiting
>IRyS 1,307 waiting
irystokeks...

>>40915096
>they dropped doppio and hex?
>bring out Tempus
>the other one

Now I'm interested, first Enna fags and now this, why are nijis so obssesed with Irys?

>>40918277
>-One of your high profile Liver literally covered an anti song about a Hololive member and uploaded it in his channel.
Gwelu being high-profile is the best joke today

>>40918985
>Wasn't royalty-free.
it was, the dude never copyrighted the music as a gift to towa
so unironically anyone could use that BGM

>>40909751
Now these are numbers I can fap to

Nigga trying to say nijiEN tried to fuck over tempus with ILUNA, lmao.
>Tempus debut dates was decided for a long time
>ILUNA Still debuted on a sunday like nijiEN always do
>AKA anycolor could had ILUNA overlap with at least 2 tempus debut

>>40914199
Wtf gura?
https://files.catbox.moe/rpty0f.mp4

>>40918046
They already have it. IRyS already talked about it.
They will hold it for holofes4 like last year. It helped to sell even more tickets.

>>40931918
>Holding EN 3D hostage to sell tickets to paid events EN fans sturggle to get tickets for without a guide on moon rune navigation.

What a garbage company. Numbers won't save them from themselves.

>>40931167
she was a nijireject, so they feel like they need to prove she is somehow failing in hololive

>>40933629
Imagine believing the nijifag ratts. You dumb fucks are still seething that Mumei chose Hololive over you losers.

>>40911640
Really? I didn't know she's such a petty cunt. Poor Elira...

>>40915004
Irys won't get mogged, because holobronies will go see her in droves regardless. They have no eye for quality.

>>40933738
>Imagine believing the nijifag ratts
I believe all rrats

Finally a worthy battle

>>40915491
that's a paid event though? if anything, nijisanji is the one that lost that because those watching holofes aren't gonna go to a debut that they can watch anytime.

Its called business, one of the ways to do business is to beat your major competition. For quick refresher gura always do minecraft streams suddenly arround nijien debuts except the last gen and niji debuted picrel at same time as holofes3, coincidences my ass roru
holo and niji chuubas collabed with each other means jackshit
>>40909382
elira "happy non binary days!!" pandora eh
i still check her karaoke streams only because EN utawaku scene is almost a joke as a whole

>>40934553
Based believer

I hate the antichrist

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>>40908942
>5k waiting vs 11k waiting
Looks like the IRyS astroturfing didn't work out as planned

>>40937309
what do you mean? It stole 5k people, that's a lot

>>40908942
Hololive still hates Nijisanji because Nijisanji fans were the reason they lost 3 of their talents

>>40908942
In what way are talents from different companies obligated to schedule around each other?

>>40912255
It already was a war when Nijisanji fans attacked Aloe into graduation

>>40923048
No. Maria did win that battle.

>>40916944
Lmao, sorry but we have standards

9k vs 35k

KEK I hope they fire someone in management for this.

>>40916944
At least we get to fuck our oshi unlike Nijifags

>>40931404
You have no idea how copyright works. Copyright is "on by default" - a work is automatically copyrighted as soon as you publish it. Them using that BGM was a clear-cut case of infringement and if the guy felt spiteful about it he absolutely could have struck the videos

Holokeks can't keep losing

>>40936533
paid or not it still matters because its a massive yearly event looking at ticket sales, there are good ammount of people who watches both companies guess which one they will watch at that time? no, multistream viewing becomes much less appealing when one of the stream costs 5k yen each day
tazumi's strategy debuting them that time was both smart and retarded

>>40938387
Yeah who the fuck puts an outfit reveal up against a 3D debut stream, the biggest amateur mistake you could do, but hey they think more Tempus is a good idea, when they have boys that stream, while lacking girls that stream regularly

Fucking KEK

Dunno why anyone thought an outfit reveal would ever beat a 3D reveal

>>40939621
Tribalfags aren’t very smart, please andastan

starts twerking, go back to irys.
Irys will never twerk on stream.

lmao

NijiID comes up with the worst and cringiest ideas but the nijiKR part was really cute

>>40939753
That's because she still can't.

Cool and all but I don't find Elira (especially Elira xD) or Irys that interesting

>>40941312
KEK

>>40908942
I like Elira.
I wish she was in hololive though.
The style of hololive fits her much more and she's a nousagi so would be a much better fit than Kiara.

>>40938510
>T. talking out your ass
Management would have forced him to take down the VOD and cut the section out if he wasn't using royalty-free music. They do it all the time.
It just so happens that OTHER vtubers also use royalty-free music.

>>40941236
NijiKR still a thing?

>>40941312
fuck off irys is pure angel

>>40943679
Just say you have no idea how copyrights work, could have save us a few braincells,

>>40943679
You don't even know what royalty-free means. Royalty-free music is still copyrighted, you just don't have to pay royalty fees each time you use it, but you still need a valid license
Most vtubers use dova-syndrome (which is licensed free with attribution) or audiostock (which charges a subscription fee)
Music some random guy made is copyrighted to that random guy, and he gets to decide if you're allowed to use it or not, with the default under both US and Japanese law being "not"

>Elira about to do her last song
>IRyS is only now showing the outfit

>>40942951
STFU Kiaraschizo

>>40942951
>The girl that was friends with several of the members of NijiEN, before they joined NijiEN is a better fit in Hololive than Kiara
How would this work, since she is streaming with her friends, you fucking retarded Kiaraschizo kill yourself already

10 minutes and IRyS have still not shown the entire outfit

Ever noticed that Irys's numbers only rose after Elira's 3d stream ended?

>>40946184
I wonder why

>>40945837
Jesus a whole hour has almost passed, well maybe if she had started her stream instead of having a 5-6 minute long loading screen, also the fuck was that transition to her outfit revealing screen

>>40914199
And this is why I will never like Gura.
She's a cunt but get's away with it because she talks sweet to the camera with a voice changer and her fans being retarded pedophiles. I'm glad now she's showing her true self when it comes to not give a shit about her fans

IRyS = Irrelevant

It is over bros, she got keked by Elira

>>40918277
Shitskin Indog seanigger seethe

>>40914199
IDK what kind of movie are you making in your heads but she just delayed the stream. actually it started at 7:16

>>40910547
none of you assholes know how business is actually done. Even IF you have a higher reach and more popularity, you don't aim for overlaps, retard. Cover would never go out of their way to try to overlap because they are a company and companies are RISK-AVERSE, there's no neener neener to be had here. Just reminds me 80% of the people here are neets or teens who've never worked a real professional job

>>40946349
I feel bad for Irys and Cover really did knee cap her outfit reveal by putting it up against Elira's 3D debut.

>>40945425
the fuck is this retarded logic
>before they joined nijien
yeah BEFORE
she wasnt friends with any nijis since she wasnt even in niji back then schizo

>>40909382
>niji
No thanks, I'll stick with good vtubers.

holobronies btfo