/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

this thread deserved to stay dead

Faggots, all of you

>>40820032
/#/ is reclining

The retard fucked up and made a global thread instead

>>40820093
>>40820127
Go back sis

What did i miss?

>>40820156
hey, man

Holy dead thread, I was about to start a new thread for the first time in my life

>>40820032
Botan sex
Great choice

dead thread
dead community
globalchads stay winning

>>40820238
The thread getting nuked

>>40820259
/#/ deserves something other than feet for once.

>>40818758
Are you a fucking retard? You're literally proving the point that she only managed to reach 7k that stream because she picked up a funnel from IRyS
>B-but you said it's only cause she's the last one on
Nigger the point was she is a garbage collector that collects funnels which is the only way she was getting 7k that stream. If you want to be a fucking nigger and hyper fixate on the fact that she wasn't the last man standing that stream believe me there's plenty other examples I can use

Who was starting the Holo vs Holostars, IRyS vs Clown? Homobeggars? Nijisnigs?

>>40820381
Someone I don't care about, probably.

>>40820381
Homobeggars ARE Nijinigs. I hate all of them .

HoloEN really needs to stream more...

Grim...

Is this indicative of an inclining trend?

>>40820558
what happened to nijis, bros?
i see more 3views that not

>>40820558
Cover what are you doing. ... release the new group of girls...

>>40820558
it's an indicative of getting raided at the start of the stream by 3k people

How are the seeth today /#/?

>>40820558
Ironic how Nijis became 3views first instead of their dreaded Tempus group

Did Niji finally throw in the towel? They have like 50 talents, they should just spam 10 man collabs every day they're bound to at least 10k if they have a Luxiem or two.

Sicklings deflection thread

>>40820719
tempiss and tempoop shills seething about their failing "livers" so a good day overall

>less than a 10% varience between peak and average

>>40820558
why does riku not like the en branch? no support whatsoever. does he secretly hate chinks?

>>40820779
they don't spam collabs because it's not new, they would spam ring fit 3d if they had it

>>40820779

Is there any hype for IRyS kimono? Was there any hype for IDs coming in February?

>>40820882
Its giga hype.

>>40820786
WTF are sicklings? Deflecting what?

>>40820882
i think there's hype >>40815009

>>40820779
company mandated collabs could only do so much. at the end of the day, people need money to be able to work effectively and the management is quite tight on that

how can we ever compete...

Anyone cared for Ironmouse 3d concert? Would Nazuza 3D'live' be more hype?

I know it's 10PM in California and that's like midnight in burgerland and that's like 90% of Tempiss' audience but 3k on a handcam instrument music stream is fucking terrible. Nobody fell off harder than Magni.

>>40820937
hex hardware's fanbase i think

>>40821040
Did it happen yet?

>>40818873
I mean, Moona quite literally advertised it and want people to see it

how does tempus able to provide entertainment without resorting to sucking dicks and fujo baiting?

>>40821040
>twitch
maaaybe gets more than ironmouse but not a lot

>>40821027
Isegye Kpop chuubas

>>40820810
Thats good old Ina. Strong and stable.

>>40821041
he even got raided with 3k people

>>40821093
Welcome to Brotubers experience, anon

>>40821093
They don't rely on superchat income

>>40820810
Stable Octopus destination my beloved

>>40821093
welcome to BFE

Ina is truly the last bastion of HoloEN superiority in the EN sphere.
>inb4 Fauna
Get that shitter out of here. She better not show her face in Ina's timeslot when she gets back.

>>40815009
>736

ehh

>>40821093
i dont watch them homos but the thought of them changing the landscape of vtubing world by slowly removing degeneracy brings smile to my face

https://twitter.com/sakuramiko35/status/1613395359702847489?s=46&t=Up3AxnUcBfAjSXIIPChaHA
She’s back tonight

>>40821093
>>40821166
>>40821289
>>40821209
https://twitter.com/Professor_Lando/status/1570562759280164864

>>40821093
Well if they managed to steer male Vtuber industry from Luxiem then StarsEN might actually be worth it

>>40821289
i hope so, the only thing youtube brings is clips of femboys, sex talk and cum

>>40821307
Welp gold for today.

>>40821093
Kudos to them for not blindly following the crowd

>>40821367
>>40821380
>>40821400
https://twitter.com/Professor_Lando/status/1593715273260933125

>>40821093
By leeching from HoloEN and relying on Twitter trannies who hate on idol culture.

>>40820964
>random cherry-picked 5ch screenshot

>>40821367
Nice edit doxxsister

>>40821460
that's why i said "i think" and not "obviously there's hype"

>>40821027
I thought it was BRRRRP, kek

>>40821516
Hype is something we cannot measure. Remember how all the JP events seemingly have no hype leading up to it on social media, at least in way we can check, but still get big numbers anyway

>>40821156
Seems like only 1K was willing to follow

Sad to see how the fans conditioned themselves to hate particular groups instead of supporting what's best for the industry - more entertainment less drama/fujo baiting

>>40821579
well, at least people are interested

>>40821602
his en audience has work for tomorrow

Will be funny see Miko stealing Pekora gold taking a revenge from her today.

>>40821612
Blame Ame & Kronii for that

>>40821701
I can see this happening.

There was several attempt at starting a PekoMiko Daisensou
Didn’t work however

What if Ina's time slot is actually the strongest for HoloEN?

>>40821928
Have anyone else tried using it before?

>>40821999
Faun?

>>40821612
There are no good male Vtubers outside of Japan.
It's literally just clout chasers, groomers or fujo panderers. No one wants those pathetic fucks shoved into Hololive.

>1 week before Moona's 3D showcase
>M: "Pekora-shachou, my 3D debut is tomorrow, do you wanna sing Turing Love with me?"
>P: "Ohhhh, sorrry sorrrry, berry busy, next time lets sing togeda"
>Invites Moona to her birthday, sing Turing Love together getting all the Pekomoonfags to boost the stream
based?

http://c.tieba.baidu.com/p/8217564102?prev=frs&source=ac.tieba.baidu.com-bfrs-c26346477-d-e0#/

Fagoo plan is working. Chink nijisis asking about starsjp about why their model, 3d and general treatment is so much better despite being 3view.

>>40822137
I ain't clicking that bitcoin miner ip stealer link, post a screenshot yo

>>40822121
delusional moonafags
the en/id guests are bae and risu

>>40821999
Fauna was briefly #1 EN using it

>>40822121
Not now, pekomoonshart

>>40822121
Retard

>>40820779
Is there a way for Niji to overtake Hololive?
HoloEN despite barely streaming and debuting a branch no one asked for, they still outperform NijiEN.
I don't necessarily agree with Nijisanji style but I find absolutely revolting dedicated streamers barely get rewarded while a streamers that go away for weeks on and one that vanished for 3 months with no justification manage to get this much attention.

>>40822174
>>40822185
>>40822188
I'll come later to grudgepost you, don't forget to check the archive in case you are sleeping by that time!

>>40822121
imagine not singing turing love on her 3D
fuck pekola

>>40822269
they can easily kill tempiss and tempoop by releasing the next male wave
and can propably be competitive with some of the lower end EN girls

>>40820779
So this is where accessory came from... Amazing how history is repeating. Since they can't fight # game they have to collab.

>>40822313
Retard, I mean that Pekora literally physically can’t be there for Moona 3D debut. It was live live and if Pekora want to stream to funnel Moona she wouldn’t have time to rush to the studio, preparing everything and performing

my cute wife

>>40822137
Tempus was a project test, they would need to talk with their managers to get a fix on their looks like Flare or la goblina and perhaps use their own money to make it first priority

The numbers will prevail

>>40822137
Once he gets the chink fujos then what? How does this get him back with China?

>>40822121
Choose better song than Turing Love, that shit is boring

my cute wife
good night anons

>>40821701
Pekora will not be beaten by a two-week break.

>>40822525
Yagoo don’t need to get back to China, he only need China’s money

>>40822269
I started writing a big paragraph but it can all be summarized as, no they can't. Their strategy is fundamentally flawed.
HoloEN was really weak all winter, like the weakest it has ever been by far, and NijiEN was in zero position to capitalize on that because their content literally disgusts 90% of Hololive fans (and they did that to themselves)

>>40822360
You seem to forget Floptyx
Although you could argue Sonny and Alban have shit numbers for streaming in Australian timezone and Yugo wasn't really a male.

>>40822577
Why are you biting bait?

how the fuck is cooking simulator a buff for males

>>40822558
Ai Kotoba III/IV
Both perfect song for Pekomon

>>40822567
good night hoofriend

Is Noctyx stronger without Yugo?

>>40822662
Let him cook meme

>>40822706
Yes

>>40822269
How about stop hiring degenerate chinks and get people in line with the western values?
Nijisanji is not an alternative to Hololive. Nijis crowd attract Vshojo audience but they're on a different platform.

>>40822381
So, she couldn't go to the studio because she HAD TO stream the previous hour just to funnel the stream?

>>40822558
Lion

>>40822727
it was also one of Mystas first 10k+ streams way back in January after their debut.

>>40822704
be careful anon, there's a nijisis LARPing as mumei ritualposter sometimes

>>40822596
Are you baiting or genuinely retarded sis? Yagoo literally lost his biggest SC earner and an entire branch because of the bugmen. To this day they are still sending death threats to FBK.
Do you think he wants that shitty market back?
Hell if money was his priority Tempoop wouldn't even be a thing.

>>40822789
uh but nijiEN already does cater to western values
have you seen aia and finana?
please anon... educate yourself

>>40822794
No? She also have a schedule earlier that day, it was literally impossible for her.

>>40822269
It's too late for them to get GFE streamers and even then GFE is more for superchats, than it is for ccv

>>40822269
>I don't necessarily agree with Nijisanji style but I find absolutely revolting dedicated streamers barely get rewarded while a streamers that go away for weeks on and one that vanished for 3 months with no justification manage to get this much attention.
Hasn't even been close to 3 months yet. If want to seethe more, she's still getting more VOD views while away than most of Niji, and still gaining subs, just got another tick reaching 4.26 million. Doing better than many while not streaming. NijiEN lost such an opportunity with the recent EN slump, but Stars2 is doing better than expected, and Ina has returned. Soon, the rest will be back from JP and Gura will return with a vengeance. Plus EN3.

>>40822918
Nobody is going to get invested in a CGDCT or GFE streamer in Nijisanji at this point, they've poisoned the well hard on that. Any girl debutante is a ticking timebomb until the inevitable fawning Luca collab or whatever.
Nijigirls have allowed themselves to be completely subsumed as accessories and window dressing for the men, all to get a minor incline during the Luxiem fad

>>40822269
It's hard and shameful to sell NijiEN to other people because of what they do. Also management prioritizing profit over its talent's well-being completely defeats the JP "idol" experience.

>>40823010
He was probably talking about Ina, who I think was gone for about 3 months. Gura is at just over 1 month.

>>40822401
Did Mel or Subaru call her cute?

>>40821093
wait till sunday

>>40823162
They sniffed her, at least.

HoloEN have been having so many kino moments lately. How are they doing it?

>>40820381
It's a classic nijisisters move how do you not know?

Elira 3d will save NijiEN

>>40822794
Yes
It's a matter of choices, she either stream to funnel and shill Moona or showing up in her stream. In the end it all benefit Moona anyway so idk why you are nitpicking things to hate Pekora with

>>40823027
True.. Idol experience is about the streamer well being, and improvement. People want to see their oshi be happy and become better and better at things what they like most. And investing money on training is a must which niji can't afford because of too much acceleration.

>>40820810
Stable as fuck

>>40823162
I feel like there’s a pretty good chance they expected her to look like her model.

>>40823143
my bad. Don't know why anyone would complain about Ina's absence.

>>40823217
yeah, no. they do nothing with that 3d. she doesn't get to sing and dance on stage. she's basically getting it because the other group does it too.

>>40823243
i feel like anyone in this game knows people dont usually look like their models

>>40823238
>Forgetting VTA
No wonder you Holofaggots are hated everywhere

>>40822269
I've got some unfortunate news for you anon: there are probably hundreds to thousands of dedicated streamers who do not get anywhere near this much attention

>>40823273
Kuzuha will invite Elira to his 3D Live, concert and Chronoir Japanese tour.

>>40823294
Anon having 100 talent and 20 talent means 5x fewer resource right?

>>40823238
Amen, anon. Everyone knows Noel sucks at singing but they still watch her anyway do her best singing wearing Subaru's outfit.

>>40823238
So the branch needs something to aspire to than just being streamers with avatars. Perhaps guest appearances in games an d anime? Their own manga.

>>40823273
That's not entirely true. They get to go to the yearly Nijisanji event with it, and perform at NJU. Birthday and anniversary lives are what they don't do in Nijisanji.

go back to your thread moonakek not even pekomoon can make your oshi inclines anymore

>>40823363
NijiEN will never be invited to perform at NJU and NijiFes. Stop dreaming

>>40823010
>but Stars2 is doing better than expected
lmao

>>40823294
VTA literally was made so that the management can fire people without risking a backlash going to the main group. Hence, VTA's rule got changed to hiring already experienced streamer.

Here's the EN chart. Ina easily picked up #1 while IRyS uses the new years outfit announcement to get ahead of the 1st post-debut stream of Bettel. Enna's Bully stream counts for yesterday, so the top NijiEN placing stream is Elira's Pokemon stream in 9th place.

>>40822269
Nijisanji doesn't deserve jackshit Anon. It's a fucking black company where the talents are pumped and dumped so their fuckface CEO can buy another yacht, all while the smaller performers are used as cumrags to prop up their biggest stars, which in NijiEN's case are a bunch of slimey faggots pandering to Chinese fujos.
On top of that most of their content is clickbaiting and coomer shit.
Hololive is far from perfect but there are some really hard working talents and you have to keep in mind that they focus way more on music and other performances.

>>40823448
Imagine being this jealous of Riku

>>40823402
Hey, I don't watch them, but I thought all members with 3D were invited. Didn't EN do something for NJU?

>>40823294
VTA absolutely destroys any potential hype for anyone debuting through that shitty system.

>>40823256
Because Ina's absence was extreme dishonest.
The excuse she gave was pathetic and she barely even Tweet to her fans during that period.
Ina was clearly favoring some sort of side activity, probably with exclusivity by contract since her break was literally 90 days flat. Despite allegedly Hololive being a very high paying job,

>>40823482
Just an interview spot, that's it. Nijisanji never includes any foreign members for 3D events.

>>40823425
Their only hope is their floor not falling off a cliff as there is only 8 of them right now.

>>40823482
Yeah. Foreigners get permission to do watchalongs on their 3d lmao

there's 2 empty weeks in january, what will they do?

>>40823614
Luxiem outfits

>>40823614
Tempus 2 Twitch Takeover

>>40822789
>western values

>>40823614
Instruct their talents to interact with the newly debuted Tempus guys to get some of the debut buff for themselves.

>>40823446
homo > mumei
G R I M

Why can't nijien laborers enjoy their life like HoloEN?

>>40823698
Collab fees too expensive, not travel expense subsidy

With nijien slowly dying will holoen follow by being killed from within?

>>40823446
>>40823693
Oh No hookeks

>>40823693
Will it still be that way a month from now?

>>40823238
>Idol experience is about the streamer well being, and improvement.

I love Hololive so much. Kronii has been playing this autism simulator for 3 hours and Magni is doing a kino music stream. All this great wholesome content and not one mention of taking dicks in the ass, cum, or bottom bitches.

>>40823446
Why mume lost battle? Why mume no good?

>>40822269
Holo could debut the shittiest most brain dead retarded talents and they would still have a higher average than Niji as a whole. That's what iLlama and Xsoiled did to the NijiEN brand. Also Luxiem having too many yabs. If they had the same professionalism as Chronoir/ROFMAO they probably could have retained more people.

>>40823027
>Also management prioritizing profit over its talent's well-being completely defeats the JP "idol" experience.
>He doesn't know

>>40823818
Watching Kronii with Magni's music stream as background music is peak kino right now. Unity chads are eating good tonight.

>>40823763
yes, our boys will incline bigly and btfo these girls
they will collab with Kronii, Mori and Bae and make them incline so much that the "unicorn" idols like Fauna Mumei, IRyS and Gura will be left in the dust
and only then will they be forced to aknowledge the boys and collab with them to save their numbers

>>40823818
Don't provoke the shitposter

>>40823818
This. I'm happy when my oshi is happy too.

>>40823698
Because Ame, in her first year, likely made more than all of Lazulight COMBINED.

>>40823446
oh no no no hoomans...
context coep incoming

>>40823818
Keep enjoying your watered down kiddy experience. Meanwhile I'll be over here listening to Enna talk about real shit everyone here can relate to and not stupid escapism bullshit. Your life will never get better if you never face your problems.

>>40823818
>>40823866
So much this. I’m coming around to covers plan to consolidate into one family : Hololive production

>>40823818
>>40823866
/MANS/ cucks must be really desperate for some views if they have to shill this hard in the fucking /numbers/ thread.

>>40823856
By being retarted autist

>>40823818
This is 4chan, please stop being mentally stable

Samefagging bait hours huh

>>40823856
She did her job funneling 1-2k viewers to Kronii to beat the homos. IRyS did well funneling kronii as well.

>>40822269
Well, my dear Nijifriend, you now began to understand why Bocchi the Rock! dominated the anime scenario.
The majority of vtuber fans are lonely man or women who seeks CGDCT or CBDCT as escapism, the moment there is male x female collabs it ruins it and there's no talent in the entire Nijisanji agency who offers this experience. That's why their retention is so miserable and their biggest talent was outted as a bot.
See picrel, for example; That's Kronii numbers in a full overlap collab previous male x female collab. Other than Gura, she was indeed the biggest talent around, and now she often struggles to go past Mumei and Bae.

>>40824012
ohno hookeks starting the cope noe

>>40823950
I too love watching vtubers like Enna talk about how much cum she can swallow in one big gulp. That is true real life content.

>>40823950
>Enna talk about real shit everyone here can relate
Seems like this anon can relate to getting cucked

>>40823958
Just ignore it and move on, their get bored and leave.

Holy shit also ESL? is it already morning in indonesia?

>>40824114
I don't watch her, did it actually affect her numbers?

>>40824053
yeah, look at peeppa, she is doing edgy stuff while doing cgdct and now she's winnning popularity, nijiEN can do it too but they get reduced to being the men's plaything

>>40824148
It's actually morning BRIT hours right now. Indotime is the same as/hour off from JP.

>>40824148
It's like 3 PM over there I think.

Tell me number sis
Is he really something else?

>>40824053
mumei has reclined more than kronii anon

>>40824053
>The majority of vtuber fans are lonely man or women who seeks CGDCT or CBDCT as escapism

Ouch but yeah that's true

>>40824179
try comparing her monthly SC and her membership before and after, probably got more SC

https://twitter.com/mini4wd_app/status/1613430583849373697
more collab

It looks like everyone hates the omnibus game

>>40824360
The what?

>>40824272
Mysta killer

>>40824370
the game kaela is playing, she can't break 2k

>>40824357
HOLY SHIT MY CHILDHOOD.

>>40823934
didn't ame waste ridiculous amounts of dollarydoos on her home 3d studio? that stuff couldn't be cheap

your average 1.8k niji streamer

>>40823446
How the fuck did kronii get 8.9k on this? I know IRyS and Mumei gave gigantic funnels but shouldnt she be around the 4-6k she normally gets for kusoges?

>>40824432
i thought it looked like a kusoge but it was weirdly fascinating to watch

do i have autism

>>40823818
its like quiet moment before cuckening part II

>>40824432
>How the fuck did kronii get 8.9k on this?
She didn't.

>>40824053
It's not even about lonely people, most of the fans aren't in for the GFE. CGDCT is mainly for a wholesome and relaxing experience, you tune in and enjoy some cute girls having fun while working or before going to bed. If you want hyper zoomer content with nonstop drama and HAPPENINGS you watch Twitch streamers.
HoloEN is kinda unique in that aspect and adding a bunch of Twitch males with an avatar into it completely ruins the vibe. Hell, this is the reason why Ina is EN 2# and can get 13k with a chill drawing stream.

>>40824432
Funnel and drama buff

>>40824473
Numbers for that collab?

>>40824432
The 8.9k was just a brief spike, she was around 7k for most of the stream.

>>40824410
Imagine youtube without raid
Half of nijien would be 3views

Is there a reason why vtubers outside of Hololive always resort to cum, piss and shit?

2023 will be Luna's year to shine

>>40824535
probably because hololive doesn't and they think that can be how they differentiate themselves

why do you think vshojo's advertising push is centered around "talent freedom"

>>40824432
Simple she’s just that lovable

>>40824535
Holos do that sometimes but they don't let it be their entire personality

>>40824535
Numbers and money what else? Zoomers make a good chunk of the YT and twitch viewerbase, so pandering to them is practically easy mode.

>>40824535
too much freedom. people are most creative when given constraints

>>40824564
>starts off with an anniversary live that literally makes her cry

y-yeah...

>>40824432
Apparently, many people love stupid stuff.

>>40824432
nvm i'm retarded, looked at the graph and the 8.9k looked like a Z(?) she got up to 7.7k with the funnels and bled all the way through.
she was also at 4k before mumei funneled her kek

>>40824410
Your homos also abuses raid faggot

>>40824578
>western "talent freedom": talking about cock piss cum sex and having bf
>japanese talent freedom: doing what they want without someone telling them NO
why is it always westerners?

>>40824504
13k

>>40824357
it's been 20+ years since I last saw one of these...

>>40824432
Someone is botting her streams, but once again had a bot crash. Not the frist time.

>>40824432
Z
Anons caught lying>>40824499
>>40824586
>>40824629

>>40824504
16k max or 10k to 13k each if two pov. Don't know anyone hyped for monopoly, and Noone new is getting involved.

we hate mumei and love kronii here

>>40824053
>you now began to understand why Bocchi the Rock! dominated the anime scenario.
Anon, it only shows how much this season fucking SUCKS if 7/11 brand K-On! is what tops the chart

>>40824617
?

>>40824737
we hate both. we hate kronii a little more because she debuffs herself incredibly hard. mumei is also guilty of debuffing herself just not to the same extent as clock woman

>>40824737
Based and true

Why are sisters compulsive liars?

>>40824688
That is what being a Tempus ally/Nijisis friend gets you.

Gotta mask that recline to prove a point.

>>40824731
Kroniicords are hyped.

>>40824357
Shuba I get, but if you tell me a year ago Luna will be the one who's into this shit, I will laugh and tell you to lurk more

>>40824737
We love both of them here. At their peaks they were the only ones to truly rival Ina for #2 EN.
The only ENs we truly hate are Kiara and Bae for being runts their entire existence.

>>40824473
>Mori realized her Mario Party curse is weakening so she wants to try rage-inducing another game

>>40824758
Anime just died due to isekai trash and SHAFT just milking the monogatari series and not creating anything good anymore.

>>40824053
>The majority of vtuber fans are lonely man or women who seeks CGDCT or CBDCT as escapism
yeah thanks, can't really argue though
>the moment there is male x female collabs it ruins it
Eh, this I can argue. For some, sure, but there is a difference between collabs and constant presence and nijiEN is all about the latter, unfortunately. Pomu and Luca is the best example. The pomodachis who are head over heels for her don't want to have her hanging off his arm all the time, sure, but what if you're not in love? What if you just like Pomu? What if you just actually don't like Luca and think he's a complete fag on his own lack of merit? Well, too bad, go fuck yourself, he's Pomu's friend and if you don't like having to put up with him you can sit and spin or walk away.
This is the biggest difference, I think. Even if the nijiEN girls hadn't fallen over themselves to bow and scrape before Luxiem as soon as they boomed, HoloEN at the peak of it's open VC Minecraft stuff was nowhere near nijiEN in that area. I've been drinking a little and I feel like I'm drifting between points, but tl;dr the biggest obstacle for nijiEN is that they are continaully retarded and shoot themselves in the foot, not so much the presence of m*les.

>>40824357
Nice, Subaru really enjoyed slotcar racing in her Yakuza playthroughs.

>>40824818
https://youtu.be/DkGOA3Xhr9s
https://youtu.be/-cTY2LACdyg
I don't know how she did it with only 2 streams

>HoloEN dance lesson in Japan
The future looks bright bros

>>40824792
It's their only way to cope with reality.

>>40824787
I hate mumei's existence.

>>40824792
What else can they do? The spammed "incel" for months and now it turns out no one watches their homoshits. The only thing they can do now is just lie and spam random shit to deflect.

>>40824985
why? she never do anything offensive

>>40824779
anons here were saying that in the zatsu the day after her anniversary live she was crying because of the numbers

>>40824673
Because you don't understand 70% of the Japanese the girls are speaking

>>40824970
>No ID
BASED BASED BASED

>>40824810
They just became yes man after everything. But looking Ame even yes man get tired eventually.

>>40824985
get over it, she will never be in nijien

>>40824970
Where do get this information?

>>40825066
They always were like that.

>>40825104
Watch EN streams faggot

A lot of Holomembers have wished a happy birthday to Pekora (Zeta and Kanata included). Are they all present in her live?

>>40824985
Yeah you do sis

>>40825131
>EN and ID shitters
>In Pekora's live
Holy kek

So, does Cover pay for HoloEN's dance lessons?

>>40825131
>Good luck
She won't be there kek, moonshart in shambles

>>40824779
>>40825057
she was crying because it went not so as planned, she was too silent because she was getting dizzy thanks to the VR

>>40824871
Funny thing is that the other show that's popular beside Bocchi is basically "Gundam for /u/"
Thank god the last ep saved it

>>40825060
You dont want to see Reine's cool dance moves?

>>40824985
Blame Reimu for misleading you

>>40825182
The only two person who talked about dance practice are the two who already know how to dance, for all intend and purpose, they're just praticing.

>>40825182
Yup
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hololive+vocal+lesson

>>40824920
Remember she's into racing and sim games, so I guess there's a connection

>>40825216
Why would I want to see some Ind*g hag dancing?

>>40824985
I would to if she didn't join my company. Having her numbers in nijiEN would be amazing.

>>40825214
>>40825057
isn't also Botan suddenly got sick?
regardless, Luna will incline this year. I can feel it. ShubaChocoLunaBotan is a strong group, especially Subaru and Botan. I can see more collab with these 4 this year.
https://youtu.be/oM_-z8VTJD4

>>40825182
>Dance lesson
You mean MMD motion data? Most of them are free in deviantart

>>40825215
>Suisei no Mahou
i wonder what's the reaction of westerm twitter over the last episode, i'd assume it's like the Madoka ep3 moment for them.

>>40825313
No, Botan went back because something happened to her family? something like that

>>40825216
Indog whore can lap dance for holostars cocks

>>40825236
So Bae and Kiara?
I'm not sure if Gura count as one because she just likes those miku dance and practice them off-stream

Hololive girls thrives because of CGDCT but it is boosted by Yuri shipping.
While for the male vtuber scene I think majority would be BL fans the CBDCT/BFE is the boost.

>>40824688
>This retard again

>>40821384
Why are 35piss like this? She won't reach 50k.
https://streamable.com/gm7921

Everyone left and now Kaela is a 3view

>>40825475
Good, Ind*g whores deserve it.

>>40825475
I wish, she's quite possibly the most boring talent in all of hololive and nijisanji. People think Kronii is bad but Kaela is on a whole different level when it comes to being boring.

>Listening to Zaion from NijiEN speaking Japanese, talking about various stuff like Okonomiyaki in Hiroshima. Cute voice, great banter with audience, completely different from her speaking EN lingo.
Japanese is just a better language than English.

>>40825475
>Kaela is a 3view
where?

>>40825396
All this dance lesson shit only for 39k peak viewers, that kanauru concert is really sad

>>40825475
Wierd definition of 3 view with 2.5k people

>>40825607
stream right now, she fell

>>40825607
theyre making shit up again

>Pekora + Moona
>Gura + Kaela
Maybe ID4 should get minecraft hobo so that she could boost EN3

>this butthurt over ID
just why?

>>40825601
To the Kronie that left Kronii she is a better Kronii.

>>40825607
WTF Kaela is a sub 3k shitter now?

>>40825627
anon please stop

>>40825662
This but technoblade for tempus3

>>40825693
Kronies like boring streamers so shut the fuck up

>>40825701
gomen, i'm drunk

>>40825740
i dunno what happen

>>40825662
Did Rust make any new ship like pekomoon

>>40825693
I'm merely stating my opinion. Kaela is the most boring chuuba i have ever watched.

>>40825764
Looks like the holobots malfunctioned for a second there

>>40825723
Didn't that nigga die

>>40825607
>>40825701
He's not full of shit, probably just looking at holodex. It's stuck on that drop.

>>40825345
Eh, it's Gundam
They know what they're getting into

>>40825819
yes, i just miss my flesh oshi so let me dream.

>>40825819
No, I'm pretty sure he posted a new video a few days ago.

>>40825690
Tempus mindbroke these sisters

>>40825734
I find Kronii interesting and not boring like people seem to think
Other chuubas i watch/find interesting are gura, aqua, aki, flare, mumei and ina.

t. kronie

i hate kronies

>>40823333
This. Look at how many 2view and 3views there are in this list, and that's not getting into all the stream grinders on twitch who get nothing out of it in the end

>>40825910
>flare
shit taste

Luxiem off collab?
https://twitter.com/ike_eveland/status/1613439909972553729

>>40825937
>Kaela above Koyori

>>40825956
Apparently they're all together, this should produce numbers

>>40825945
calm down tally anon

>>40825819
>>40825866
>isreal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KivZieyf3b0
Imagine releasing content while you're fucking dead

>>40825979
She always was

>>40824818
newfag

>>40825995
>using dead people to selling merch and ads
imagine doing that

>>40825690
Kaela manages to stream more than anyone in the company and still holds a better CCV than 3/4 of the Tempiss shitters and most of NijiEN.
Unironically the besy hire of 2022.

>>40825995
so who do you think is milking the corpse?

>>40826029
Yet she still gets lower numbers than all of EN. What a shitter.

>>40826055
anykara?

>>40826059
>comparing EN to ID
sister...

>>40825770
Luna Kanata
Even though they're genmate...

>>40825910
>flare
People want Flare to be the cool and sexy, but she wanted to be cute and went with it regardless. Except the reason why Flare was hired by Hololive WAS her cool and sexy image. Her model is easily the most SEX out of the GOLDEN GENERATION of the MOST WELL KNOWN vtuber company. She could easily gain more success if she played her exotic coombait character properly (not good on its own, but it's better than nothing). Rejecting and stubbornly trying to change was a big mistake, now she's permanently stuck in a well endowed brown model that goes against her preferred aesthetic in an industry where people tried to match their avatar.
>Cunnies mog her in cuteness
>Other hags mog her in maturity
>The snow elf mogs her in GFE
>Her own genmates mog her in humor
>Fucking Kanata mogs her in tsukkomi
But wait, there's more!
>Wants to be seen as cute badly but breaks character too often when playing games
>Refuses to be the butt of the joke when bantering
>Pathetically unfunny bits like "I like loli!" or "I have ADHD and I'm angry!"
>Wet blankets any ship or collab partner by being prude
>Continuously using ugly chibi fanart from that one artist for her thumbnails
>Hard to schedule collabs with because of her secondary job
>Nothing to say in zatsudans, rarely shares anything about her private life, gachikois know nothing about her after watching for so long
>Refuses among us collabs because it hurts her feewings. Same with rust initially.
>Ruined Shiraken by recruiting too many members, also by being deadweight outside block game
So on so forth. By their own these are all salvageable, together they make a trash heap

So what does Flare have going for her?
>One of the best endurance singers in Hololive
but her singing voice and song choices are not exceptional... except with songs that could actually make use of her cool voice like Kaibutsu or Ussewa and not fucking Kokoro Odoro again
>Very feminine: Really kind to other holomem, smells nice, likes to recommend good beauty products
but none of that translates well to a good experience for an average viewer
>Good sense of architecture for a holo
but doesn't show it outside of block game and animal crossing.
>Barrage of orisongs on her latest concert
but all of them are bland and forgettable. No personality trait or lore gimmick to market. And where's the album?

I used to endure watching her for months. She's adjacent to a lot of holomem I like so I really want to like her too. But the more I watch the more of her flaws are exposed, the more I feel like I'm robbed from the full experience. She's an underdog without the underdog appeal. These days I don't bother watching her outside collabs.
Everything that went wrong with her is her own doing. And just like the broken MTL english in her outro, it will likely never be fixed. If Hololive didnt grow big she would have graduated by now. おつfuckingぬい.

>>40826069
Its Holo vs Holo time dont you know

>>40826069
Read the post I replied to retard

Is it plausible for her to incline if she starts learning the indog language?

>>40825956
Oh no no no Ina slip incoming

>>40825694
3k is hard anon please undastan

>>40826059
She didn't cause any drama nor killed HoloEN's viewership, and on top of that she puts in more hours than anyone else. Can't say the same about your Tempiss shitters.

>>40826074
Umm tally anon? mental breakdown?

>>40826097
Probably not a good idea, esecially since she gets a lot of EU and American tourist due to her streaming hours

>>40825604
>t. Weeaboo

>>40826085
>tempiss shitters and most NijiEN
both of them are EN branch you retard

>>40826074
Not now tally anon

>>40825819
His dad is using his sons channel. It’s one of the most disgusting things I’ve seen

>>40826097
Hmm NijiID doesn't exist anymore maybe she could tap that huge market

>>40826097
Yeah kaela will incline more if she starts speaking full indo

>>40826074
That's the good thing about corpos. Sometimes they give a streamer a design/persona better than a streamer would give themself. They absolutely nailed Flare. Too bad the streamer doesn't agree. If Flare was an indie she probably make herself a Watame knockoff

>>40825995
Fucking foul

>>40826242
She'll get less sc though.

>>40826097
i feel she's a miscast. voice too old for her model

>>40826287
Oh wow he's actually planning on releasing more? ngl feels kinda scummy. I thought this was just a one-off which would have been fine

>>40826298
wouldn't her voice be fit for Aia's model?

>>40826287
Barf

>>40826317
>>40826287
Probably a bunch of pre-recorded stuffs the dude have ready before he died

>>40826298
Yeah, Cover should graduate her.

so what triggered the dwarf breakdown?

Man, Tempus used to be fairly normal in terms of graphs, now it seems like every time I see one it gets slightly more Niji-like.

>>40826398
me stating that i actually enjoy flare and find her interesting i guess

>>40826294
if she want more sc, she should speak chinese instead

>>40825690
moonashart seething over her getting better number

>>40826413
after the collab drama the Holobox abandoned them and only the nijiviewers are left
same with the new guys

>>40826413
That's what the unicorns have been warning us about. Tempiss only brings Nijiniggers into Hololive

>>40826074
Is this true? As an EOP I realize I hear a lot of things about the other Sankisei members with all their quirks and fun trivia, when it comes to Flare I only know about her autismo towards being cute instead of cool and Noel being her sugar mommy.

>>40826413
>if seems like
>it feels like
>I think
>I feel
you start acting like nijinigger. post numbers, otherwise you're just fucking bullshit

>>40826471
Now, will Tempus2 learn from their senpais' mistake?

>>40826563
lol

>>40826413
>checking sister discussion on their site to see what nijisisters think about tempus
>a fucking sapling in the tempus thread
this is one of you isn't it, why the fuck would a sapling be posting there

So what are your thoughts on this matter? Do you think EN3 would have as much thought and preparation put into it as much as Tempus?
Or will they just shit out a new girl gen knowing they will be successful anyways? I'm leaning towards that EN3 being the most well-put-together gen in Hololive history.

>>40826471
Maybe these nijiviewers should watch their corpo chubas too cause they get destroyed by Tempus on a daily basis

>>40826624
some sisters are gay

>>40826526
yes all of it
and i hope she graduates after the mori mario party curse starts rearing it head soon
t. tally anon

>>40826624
>be careful this is a tempus page
what, do they hate girl discussion there

>>40826630
EN3 would flop harder than council, that's why cover hesitant about it

>>40826624
There used to be Sapling homobeggar in /mans/

>>40826686
No...

>>40826684
the girls have their own pages

>>40826634
that's the sad thing for tempiss and tempoop: nijiviewers are not loyal like the Holobox, as soon as NijiEN debuts a new male wave they are done for

>>40826467

>>40826733
And the Moonashart reveals himself at last

>>40826563
Considering that their senpais are jump straight back in with no regard to their audience wants? No, they will jump right into Mori's cold bosom embrace.

>>40826630
>Or will they just shit out a new girl gen knowing they will be successful anyways?
I think everyone can see the state of the EN vtubing industry, hell Cover can just look at how each new NijiEN wave gets decreasing numbers even if the streamers might be objectively more talented than some earlier hires.
Do they have anything planned to address this? Who knows. I don't really have faith in management to know what to do, but I'm fairly sure they know that these problems exist.

>>40826721
I've heard yagoo planning to release holohag, it'll be gen full of single parent mom

>>40826727
It's theyre own fault if they cannot keep theyre loyal viewers

/#/ KNEEL TO CEO OF IDOL GAMER

>>40826543
First, I said "think" one time in that sentence, and never said "feel". I know one thought must seem like a lot for you but try to maintain composure.
Second, I was just referring to this stream. Niji shit often peaks early and then just rolls down the whole time.

You know no one will take you seriously if you include shart in every sentence you make right?

>40826852
not your blog. fuck off

>>40826831
they could have gotten a part of the holobox if they didn't try to leech the girls and kept to themselves
but management fell for the "unity" meme and Mori of course couldn't help herself in her crusade against sexist idol culture and owning the haters

>>40826871
Nice try ENshart

>>40826790
HololiveEN main bread and butter have seen no new talents in over a fucking year. You can't compare it to NijiEN since they are going at an ungodly pace of debuts.

>>40826856
He got raided as well right? That retention is pretty bad but it could just be midnight.

Man, Takamori still have a surprisingly strong mainstream appeal

>>40826856
that's not specifically niji, some holo also had the same graph like mumei geoguessr
niji-like graph is looking something like this

Pekora twitter shadow banned again?

>>40826852
what's selen doing, what am i looking at

>>40826790
nijisanji has never become the barometer for success. hololive thrived to markets where nijisanji failed

>>40826856
it's midnight in na, anon

>>40826965
There are a handful of things that are niji-like to me since they appear most often with Nijis, one is mountain range graphs, one is getting raided with thousands of people in an instant peak and watching it crater insanely fast, and then the more subtle early peak you see there. Holos can get those too, but it's isn't typical. There's probably a few others, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

>>40826871
I mich prefer shart over kek

>>40826887
That's the funniest part their fucking stupid brotubers meme worked. They just quickly exposed themselves as not bros after the collab ban ended early.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDxnC5LIhvw
will he get botted anons

>>40826871
okay moonacuck

>>40826965
It's a typical LoL stream graph. People turn off during queuing and return gradually.

>>40826980
She never got unbanned?

>>40826887
Kronie cope

>>40827151
She did. She just got banned again.

>>40827111
>he

>>40826526
It's..not incorrect, though some of it is exaggerated for effect. Each of those points is true, and if pressed I think I could dig up examples of each of those issues (except the secondary job thing, that one I'm not personally sure about offhand).

https://twitter.com/ceresfauna/status/1613457522421288960
Fauna's back home

>>40826413
oh yeah i forgot to post what i found. anecdotally there seem to be a lot of niji tourists yeah, especially for bettel. but they're already getting into slapfights with the og tempus fans, so who knows if they're going to stick around?

>>40826958
It’s literally a yuri manga. Starting arc followed by moving apart and growing distant before the big moment of realisation seeing her on stage (https://streamable.com/ii62uy)) followed by reconnecting culminating in the Austria trip.

>>40827151
>>40827189
they fear the power of peko. But seriously what's wrong with her twitter?

>>40827229
So no stream tomorrow because jet lag then.

>>40826871
It's only fine to use it against ENsharts because that's what they are.

>>40827255
Moonacucks seething she no longer cares about pekomoon ship so they mass report her

>>40827275
Did you shart your pants?

I'm fucking sick of pekolewds

>>40827229
Can't wait for her to get sub 5k streams now that she has to actually overlap Ina

>>40824357
makes me miss my fav hag saku

>>40827239

>>40827269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEWpLaY9Nsw
frame already up

>>40827269
https://youtu.be/jEWpLaY9Nsw
Get fucked