/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40814647
Based.

>>40814647
>Leeching NijiEN
>Somehow this means HoloEN is dying
???

Well that's no surprise, tempus actually streams.

>>40814647
Homos literally just had a new gen release what are you trying to prove here?

>>40814647
Based, make NijiEN irrelevant

I wouldn't say in droves

>>40815004
I guess it should actually be called the cock boost and it's real, Kronii and Ame on top boys!

>>40815004
>None of the NijEN male's fanbases present
No superchats for Tempus kek

>>40815187
Weak bait

>>40814647
I remember when tempiss1 debuted and delusional retards kept spamming that they'd beat the girls.
Now they're borderline 3 views. I can't believe these retards are repeating the cycle, just setting themselves up to get mocked again in a month.

>>40815662
>borderline 3 views
Altare is a 3 view most days now

>>40815662
>3K plus streams
>Borderline 3 view
Excluding the pre recorded 20 minute videos of course, you faggots are fucking delusional. You see anything sub 7k and think it's a failure.

>>40815875

>>40816202
>no argument
yeah that's what i thought

>>40814647
>holostars (which isnt hololive) leeching off nijien means hololive is dying
What?

Tempus crushing illuna and lolisex as we thought they would.

>>40815662
I don't watch the males (apart from vesper) and think cover is retarded for giving us more of them over EN3 but they are actually doing pretty well, right now there are two holo girls sub 5k with of the new homos almost at 3k, clown homo beat both of them and vesper is long past his debut honeymoon and still can get almost 5k same with Magni depending on the stream.

This is more of an comment on how bad hololive EN has gotten than a massive win for the homos but they are disturbingly close to each other now outside of a few girls. Ina, a creative stream from Ame and of course Gura when she eventually comes back are the only ones that can consistently make 3-5k streams look like a joke. To everyone else in hololive EN the homos are looking more like runts nipping at their heels rather than something that cannot even be compared like starsJP/holoJP.

Cover has fucked up dragging their feet on EN3 this long but a share of the blame has to go to the girls for making 2022 such a forgettable (apart from the bad stuff) year, it is completely obvious now how badly holoen is bleeding viewers.

>>40816407
nta but why do you get so defensive over the facts?
Shouldn't you enjoy your chubba no matter their viewership? Why let some anons get to you so much?

>>40814647
What website is this before this thread deletes

>>40817015
Also nta but I personally don't give a shit until it starts breaking containment.
You see drooling retards trying to numberfag outside of 4chan and it becomes annoying for both the streamer and the viewers.
I don't see containment breaking for shit like nijiEN or one of the lowballers in HoloEN like Bae or Kiara.

>>40817118
vrabi

>>40814647
>tempus is attracting NijiEN's audience in droves
it's over they will launch tempus 3 in 6 months

>>40817380
And how do I find overlap, I wanna know which Holos overlap with one another

>>40816753
this. kiara is basically the only one who streams consistently and is active with her fans. there's a reason why people consider the tops of EN.

you dont need to be making 20k views a stream. having consistent views and supas is key, which tempus has been getting (more so than holoID or most of NijiEN at the moment)

>>40817015
>this vtuber has been doing well
>OMG COPIUM IMG
>you have no argument?
>omg why are you so defensive....shouldnt we just enjoy chuuba? (sob)

you people are fucking insufferable

>>40817887
>which tempus has been getting
they cannot even beat scarle's sc

>>40818002
at what point did i say most. i said consistent. you fucking troglodyte, READ.

>>40818058
>consistent
scarle is consistent in her sc numbers KEK

>>40815187
4 of the new boys just debuted what did you expect?

>>40817887
NijiEN actually has pretty consistent SC income. Some of the latter-wave talents failed as entertainers completely but they made up for it by being ruthless SC farmers. Scarle is always brought up as an ur-example where she’s a 3view but makes bank because every single viewer is a lonely paypig watching specifically to get their superchats read by a girl.

>>40817828
Go here https://vrabi.net/daily
Click a stream. Under the chart will be a word cloud of the stream and what follows is the overlap, note that this is specifically the percentage of chatters that sent a message during the stream you clicked that had also sent messages on the listed channels in the past 30-60 days or so.

>>40815004
>selen
damn you guys didn't lie when you said selen's fanbase overlaps with holoEN
>>40818223
they don't even watch NijiEN let alone know their incomes

>>40814647
>People who stream is getting watchers from people who don't stream at all.
Shocking

>>40814647
Good. They got pretty models and know what audience they want. I'm glad the boys will actually get some profitable support now.

>>40815004
Dragoons have some explaining to do.

>>40815004
where's pomu?

>>40818828
Try /b/

>>40818828
Pomudachi are either general unityfags or NijiJPfags

>>40814647
>EN girls rarely stream
>homos still desperately stream every day
>somehow homos have more people in chat
.......mysterious...

>>40818828
Why would her viewers watch males

>>40814647
wow i love watching people that doesn't even streams

>>40818955
b-but they said pomies love dick

>>40818929
>desperately stream every day
Hilarious cope. Yeah, how "desperate" of Tempus to...treat streaming like an actual job?

>>40819391
Yeah I can't believe someone who's new at their job has to work harder than someone whose name already made it big.
I mean it's not like that one famous shark girl who doesn't work ever worked a lot when she was new
wait no she did
fuck

>>40814647
TEMPUSBASED

>Still trying to kill nijiEN
Best not miss if you come at the king.
And no, his paypigs or crazy chinese fans havent left him no matter what the voices in your head tell you.

>>40819617
>has a mental breakdown if he sees even 10% less viewers than less tream
>shuts the stream down and deletes the vod if anyone talks back to him
>threatened suicide after Shoto cucked him

>>40819617
>his paypigs
some of them go to hex anyway

>>40819517
who?

I'm not racist but I don't like holostars

>>40814647
There's more chat participation in smaller channels because people feel more like they can successfully communicate with the streamer.

>>40816753
Anon? Tempus does not even compete with the runts of NijiEN, how are the nipping at HoloEN?

>>40817118
If you are interested in something like this, try /#/ sometimes.

>>40817887
>this. kiara is basically the only one who streams consistently and is active with her fans.
Please stop believing in catalog narratives, it's clear you don't watch any of the girls
Also NijiEN make way more in superchats than Tempus

>>40821283
NijiEN has the single highest Superchat earner in the YT Vtuber sphere. Vox was the only one to cross the 1 million barrier last year, only Chloe came close at 930k. Not only does Tempus, Myth, and Council+Irys get mogged by them so does a good chunk of HoloJP.

>>40814647
Tell me something we dont know, we always want star to steal niji audiance without touching the holobox. And it seem they really did go after them. Kudos to them is they succeed. Keep leeching niji as much as you can starboys

Tell me something we dont know, we always want star to steal niji audiance without touching the holobox. And it seem they really did go after them. Kudos to them if they succeed. Keep attracting and steal those nijisis, you have 1 month

>>40821910
>without touching the holobox
they can't, kobo keep dragging them into it

>>40822315
Kobo is a dumb child with probably an autism, she doesn't care about her fanbase or her wallet, she just want to have friends and be famous. The only people who can help her realise this is her manager, genmate, chat or herself. At this point she doesn't seem to care if people leeching of her at all.
I don't have anything to add anon, it just seem useless to think about.

>>40819731
>can only bring up stream incidents when the original post is talking about SCs
>no rebuttal to the point about SCs
my fucking sides

Rip

>>40814647
>Tempus is attracting NijiEN's audience
NijiEn isnt going to let that happen

>>40816753
>but a share of the blame has to go to the girls for making 2022 such a forgettable
Well nothing exciting fucking happened last year, the girls are all land locked unless they travel to somewhere for offcollabs and even then they won't do that just to stream, the brains of operation of the branch decided to take a vacation from that role for the better part of last year and nobody was really able to step up and even after Japan opened it's borders no one in their management tried to push for Myth 3D showcases or CouncilRyS 3D debuts. Yeah, the girls could've tried something but at the end of the day they can't do much by themselves, especially when the branch heads are more interested in pushing for 8 fags who half of the current roster couldn't give less of a shit about.

>>40814647
what even is this metric?
chat spam?

>>40815187
>No superchats for Tempus kek
See you in a month

YAGOO must be over the moon right now.
Finally - he managed to make males somewhat successful, something he has been trying for years.

>>40819106
Unless she interacts with tempus, which I doubt it, you won't see any possible overlaps

>>40824046
Vox cries when people point out his sides.

>>40814647
This does not affect holoEN at all, just means these guys failed to attract a new audience. Or they look so gay people though they were nijien males.

>>40818802
You know their type all too well

>>40820870
Damn, I didn't know it was this grim, I blame Omega for their retarded way of promoting the branch.

>>40815875
I have high standards. Anything less than 15k is a disgrace. That includes the girls.

>>40816202
not really

>>40820870
Goddamm

>>40827991
When the collab ban end, they might reach out to nijien, one of them are vox and mysta follower. They might even fishing in his chat, and luxiem chat most likely spam collab. Yea i can see it happen.

>>40820870
GRIM

>>40818828

>>40820870
>top of the chart is hologirls
>bottom is holoboys
What compels cover to keep investing in males no ones watches?

>>40820870
>hours watched 400k
>this is somehow bad for as it means 1 guy makes 100k hours
Y'all failed grade school math. This is insanely good.

>>40843963
>complain about hours watched
>spreadsheet is very clearly being sorted by average CCV
embarrassing

>>40843963
Tempiss
> hours streamed : 213
> hours watched : 400K
Myth
> hours streamed : 148
> hours watched : 809K
Homofag as always pathologic liars they have twice less hours watched when they produced 1/3 more content, even on that they are showing how failling they are.

>>40845339
and keep in mind that this is during a time period where Myth's arguably 2 biggest contributors were both on extended medical leaves of absence. So these are worst case scenario numbers for Myth.

>>40846793
CouncilRyS also had a bunch of members taking breaks around the same time and they had almost 4 times the amount of watched hours. Just imagine how things would be if Cover wasn't fucking retarded and debuted an HoloLIVE EN3 last year.

>>40820870
>Council and Myth losing to Luxium
No wonder you haven't gotten EN3 KEK Unicorn buff doko?

>>40815875
I don't know why that anon showed Vesper, since he gets the best CCV of Tempus gen 1

>>40820870
>The gap between Tempus and StarsJP
They will never pull council/myth numbers but clearly they are a success for Yagoo
witness as Tempus1 get their 3D before their first anniversary

>>40848034
So because of that Cover is pushing for a bunch of guys who can only beat Iluna out of all NijiEN waves? That doesn't sound like a smart decision.

>>40843855
Not having to employ and work with women.

It's all women, which is still a bad thing, but hardly the end lf the world.

>>40814647
>HoloEN is dead.
You know, that statement kind of loses its impact the 7,000th time you say it, anon. Boy who cried wolf and that.

>>40815662
My favorite is that stream Regis did recently where literally every single time one of the other guys started streaming, his viewers dropped, and even when the other person ended the viewers literally just never came back. Guy had dropped to fucking 700 viewers before he called it quits. They have the most fragile viewer base I've ever seen, feels like even a harsh breeze could knock them all down into 3 view.

>>40845339
>5 members vs 4
>millions of subs vs barely 200K on two members
>barely twice the watch time
That's not the win you think it is anon

>>40848856
Cool. Tempus is still only winning against Iluna on average ccv and even then they lose to every single NijiEN on both watch time and hours streamed. So much for the only hardworking members of HoloProEN.

>>40848856
>5 members vs 4
>millions of subs vs barely 200K on two members
Both extremely misleading. Due to external factors the 2 top performers in Myth put out a total of 10 hours of content over the period in question. Zero streams for Ina, and 3 by Gura. So I'll be exceedingly generous and call that 3.5 members vs 4 since Gura did stream a little bit. Meaning the millions of subs didn't have anything to watch. In fact it's not completely out of the question that Tempus's numbers were inflated over this period due to the lack of content on the HoloEN side.
So you're taking the best case scenario for one side, the worst case scenario from the other, and still losing by a factor of 2.

>>40815004
I am retarded, how do I read this

>>40850278
In terms of total chatters (people that sent a message during Bettel's stream) the number is the percentage of people that had sent messages on those other channels in the last 30 days or so.

>>40819793
They don't even stream during the same time slots. Early morning PST/EST Ike, Vox, and Mysta hours.