/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

GRIMchads eating good today.

>>40746893
Recent clip numbers
>>40698862
>>40698879
>>40698900
>>40698917
>>40698948

Tempiss and Tempoop were a mistake.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>54,841: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,860: Korone (Hololive)
>22,497: Koyori (Hololive)
>21,699: Pomu (Nijisanji)
>19,665: Botan (Hololive)
>18,232: Ina (Hololive)
>17,158: Patra (774 inc)
>17,079: Mito (Nijisanji)
>16,842: Noel (Hololive)
>15,819: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>15,329: Fubuki (Hololive)
>14,556: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,963: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>13,902: Luna (Hololive)
>13,217: Mio (Hololive)
>11,562: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,147: Toko (Nijisanji)
>11,143: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>10,663: Okayu (Hololive)
>10,417: Watame (Hololive)
>10,374: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>10,290: Kanata (Hololive)
>10,121: Lize (Nijisanji)

>>40746893
En Vtuber Power rankings
Mysta>Ina>Luca>Vox>Fauna>=Mumei>Shu>IRyS>Alaban>Fulgur>Kronii>Uki>Iron Mouse(it's easy to get viewers on Twitch)>Nyanners>Veibae

>>40746983
Every day if you don't watch JPs.

>>40747047
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 112,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023
8) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 122,719 - Niji Mahjong Cup 2023
9) Pekora (Hololive) - 55,370 - GeoGuessr
10) Subaru (Hololive) - 54,841 - TsuneMOS Tycoon

>PER COMPANY
8x: Hololive
1x: Indie, Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
3x: Pekora
2x: Towa
1x: Hololive, Nerumero, Nijisanji, Subaru, Watame

What was the the cap on tempus again? 7-8k? They almost got 10k between 3 streams

>Final 100k+ stream for 2022 tally
1. Hololive – 35 (26)
1. Nijisanji - 34 (14)
Results: Hololive

Monthly Summary
>January: Holo (1 - 0)
>February: Tie (1 - 1)
>March: Holo (4 - 0)
>April: Holo (2 - 0)
>May: Niji (2 - 4)
>June: Holo (6 - 4)
>July: Niji (2 - 5)
>August: Niji (3 - 10)
>September: Holo (1 - 0)
>October: Niji (1 - 3)
>November: Holo (7 - 1)
>December: Niji (5 – 6)

>>40747059
Ok this is not a bait and I genuinely mema this that when was the last time a Niji En Vtuber was able to get 8K on a solo stream without collabs, ASMR, HandCam, Karoke or any special event?

my cute wife

>>40747114
Was 8 before

Is blue just a human waiting room or something?
>>40747114
That's with debut buff, which is probably one of the strongest buffs you can get. 10k is pathetically small for that.

>>40747114
the homobox was 6k a month or two ago

Hololive EN 11 members
>Jan: 3,626,369 (585.5hrs, 215 streams)
>Feb: 3,021,167 (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)
>Mar: 4,907,065 (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)
>Apr: 3,886,364 (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)
>May: 3,386,966 (464.8hrs, 158 streams, 7,288 avg)
>Jun: 3,293,675
>Jul: 4,066,096
>Aug: 3,930,035 (526.1hrs, 165 streams, 7,471 avg)
>Sep: 3,340,198 (491.3hrs, 157 streams, 6,798 avg)
>Oct: 3,446,635 (507hrs, 159 streams, 6,798 avg)
>Nov: 2,728,747 (478.1hrs, 132 streams, 5,707 avg)
>Dec: 2,318,190 (375.4hrs, 121 streams, 6,175 avg)

>total: 41,951,507

Nijisanji EN 32 members
>Jan: 3,174,294 (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)
>Feb: 3,972,676 (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)
>Mar: 6,283,717 (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)
>Apr: 6,449,716 (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)
>May: 5,661,308 (1,461.6hrs, 423 streams, 3,873 avg)
>Jun: 5,873,002
>Jul: 6,285,678
>Aug: 7,022,216 (1,935.1hrs, 585 streams, 3,629 avg)
>Sep: 5,285,293 (1,995.7hrs, 554 streams, 2,648 avg)
>Oct: 4,916,112 (2,106.3hrs, 519 streams, 2,334 avg)
>Nov: 3,695,275 (1,555.6hrs, 455 streams, 2,375 avg)
>Dec: 5,900,283 (2,141.2hrs, 633 streams, 2,756 avg)

>total: 64,519,570

Looks like Kronii is eyeing some new meat...

>>40747172
https://vrabi.net/video/iK7X9k-xvSE

Kronii's numbers? She seems to be doing well despite the overlap

It's a homo eat homo world out there bros

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY *

>1/10 DAILY TALLY
21,699: Pomu (Nijisanji)
18,232: Ina (Hololive)
8,575: Mumei (Hololive)
8,557: Kiara (Hololive)
5,277: Shinri (Hololive)
5,197: Axel (Hololive)

>EN GOLD FOR JANUARY 2023
1. Amelia (Hololive) - 19,255 (New Years Countdown and Karaoke)
2. Vox (Nijisanji) - 15,692 (Clubhouse Games w/Mysta)
3. Mumei (Hololive) - 14,736 (Tasting Fruits w/Fauna)
4. Ike (Nijisanji) - 7,576 (Kuukiyomi 3)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 12,036 (Return stream)
6. Vox (Nijisanji) - 13,946 (Collab w/Petra, Enna, Reimu, Sonny, Scarle, Doppio, Kotoka, and Ver)
7. Amelia (Hololive) - 24,748 (Mini Live and Birthday Zatsu)
8. Flayon (Hololive) - 30,354 (Vtuber Debut)
9. Ina (Hololive) - 35,609 (Return Stream)
10. Pomu (Nijisanji) - 21,699 (w/Reimu, Vox, Ren, Scarle, Sonny, Uki, Aia, Kyo, Fungus, Zaion, Ike, Doppio, and Enna)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 5
Nijisanji - 5
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
2x: Vox, Amelia
1x: Mumei, Ike, Mysta, Flayon, Ina, Pomu

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
17x: Vox
10x: Amelia
8x: Ike, Ina
7x: Mumei
6x: Fauna, Mysta
5x: Flayon, Pomu
3x: Baelz, Sonny, Hakka, Kiara
2x: IRyS, Kronii
1x: Meloco, Shinri

The Current Waiting List for nijisanji after lazulight confirmed 3d debut

2/16/20 - Shellin Burgundy*
3/7/20 - Amemori Sayo* (12/10/21)
4/1/20 - Kuroi Shiba
4/12/20 - Hayama Marin*
6/23/20 - Hana Macchia* (10/24/22, 12/16/22)
2/10/21 - Seto Miyako
5/1/21 - Gilzaren III*
6/5/21 - Asahina Akane*
6/24/21 - Azuchi Momo
7/24/21 - Lauren Iroas
7/28/21 - Petra Gurin
8/5/21 - Asuka Hina
8/6/21 - Selen Tatsuki
8/30/21 - Rosemi Lovelock
11/14/21 - Nina Kosaka
12/9/21 - Millie Parfait
12/30/21 - Vox Akuma
12/31/21 - Mysta Rias
1/1/22 - Enna Alouette
1/8/22 - Shu Yamino
1/8/22 - Ike Eveland
1/9/22 - Luca Kaneshiro
1/9/22 - Reimu Endou
1/21/22 - Siska Leontyne
3/5/22 - Alban Knox
3/10/22 - Sonny Brisko
3/11/22 - Harusaki Air
3/12/22 - Uki Violeta
3/12/22 - Taka Radjiman
3/21/22 - Mika Melatika
3/21/22 - Fulgur Ovid
4/12/22 - Ponto Nei
5/10/22 - Umise Yotsuha
5/24/22 - Hyakumantenbara Salome
6/7/22 - Yang Nari
6/27/22 - Min Suha
7/18/22 - Watanari Hibari
7/18/22 - Shikinagi Akira
7/20/22 - Seraph Dazzlegarden
7/23/22 - Amagase Muyu
7/24/22 - Scarle Yonaguni
7/24/22 - Ren Zotto
7/24/22 - Aster Arcadia
7/25/22 - Maria Marionette
7/25/22 - Kyo Kaneko
7/25/22 - Aia Amare
7/27/22 - Seffyna
8/13/22 - Fura Kanato
8/27/22 - ZEA Cornelia
10/17/22 - Bonnivier Pranaja
12/11/22 - Hex Haywire
12/15/22 - Meloco Kyoran
12/16/22 - Ver Vermillion
12/25/22 - Doppio Dropscythe
12/27/22 - Zaion Lanza
12/30/22 - Kotoka Torahime

* refers to members who already have 3D but still didnt have a 3D debut

>>40747305
Ok seems fair.
So does that mean only one in Niji En who can rival Fauna, Mumei and IRyS and the others is Mysta for solo streams.
I am not trying to offend anyone so forgive for my ESL.
I am genuinely curious

So peko gold today huh

>>40746893
>yom
Okay, you're only half a nigger for shitting up the threads with these posts

I almost feel sorry for the blue boy

>>40747456
Pretty much yes, though once in a while a solo horror game stream may do well.

>>40747456
Thats the thing about Niji En. They will rather have collabs than give audience the solo streams except for the Luxiem members. That the reason for their low ccv because they don't have an audience for themselves. Your content lives and dies on your solo streams

>>40747456
>Fauna, Mumei and IRyS and the others
I'm pretty sure NONE of those girls outside of Fauna have an 8K median, so I'm not sure what your point is

>>40747527
Almost?

>>40747456
Not even Mysta can. That quoted stream was a clickbait stream with a clickbait title and a clickbait thumbnail.

>>40747353
>5,277: Shinri (Hololive)
>5,197: Axel (Hololive)
they will never be Hololive and die like the parasitc leeches they are

>>40747305
Isn't this a hand cam stream so it disqualified

>>40747527
the silver lining i guess is that because of their ego they'll probably complain to management which might push back tempus 3

>>40747563
An 8k median and getting 8k on a stream are 2 different things

What did we learn today, /#/?

>>40747563
For median even Musta doesn't have 8K as his median peak.
Fauna, IRyS, Mumei, Ina and the others are able to get 8K for their solo streams. It's not me looking down at Niji En btw, I am just trying to understand why do the collabs do so much better than their solo streams. That's it

>>40747527
he should try asking kobo for collab

>>40747637
Tempus 3 would be fun at this point, they should go ahead and do it. I want them to do it. Try to spread 10k at best CCV across 12 streamers.

>>40747508
Depend on if she want to let her genmates collab get it

One ESL's logic have broken down all the Nijifags who were boasting about numbers and looking down on IRyS. Not so cocky now sisters

>>40747711
>10k
bit generous there

What the difference of landmine girl & menhera or it's just a direct translation?

>>40747711
it would be a shitshow of peaks but a funny one

>>40747678
They almost constantly overlap so each develop their own audience, which is in return smaller. But since each have their own audience, their collab can get much better numbers by the sum of their respective audience, compared to holoEN, who barely ever overlap (barely ever stream, to be fair), and as such, share a large majority of their audience. That's how you end up with a 14K mumei solo karaoke and a 16K Faumeibae offcollab karaoke.

>>40747335
new rule: no holostar streamer can stream at the same time

easy 5k streams for all stars, ur welcome cover

>>40747562
Lmao, that's a myth. Niji En gets more supas, merch sales, ccv than Holo. Solo streamers are for parasocial fucks

>>40747727
Its a bday countdown thats auto big numbers

>>40747527
Literally every time someone starts a stream he loses a chunk of viewers and never gets them back, they just evaporate even after the stream they left for ends.
>10:00 - Machina starts
>11:00 - Gavel starts, massive dip but some come back since his stream wouldn't work, until he starts his twitter stream where they all leave again
>12:00 - Banz starts
>13:00 - Josu starts, Magni shortly after
He actually lost viewers to a fucking twitter space.

>>40747895
blue boi...

>>40747678
The collabs have other members whose fans will tune in. Same as with holoEN. It's judt more appsrent since in general holos have better solo streams.
Like, you'll see bait of Pomu vs Ina for a few daysnow, but they'll never mention that Pomu's stream was a huge NijiEN tournament including many popular members.

>>40747895
The jester still can't sort out his streaming setup? Wasn't that guy a semi-pro vshojo nuthugger for years? How fucking hard is it to turn on OBS

>>40747895
>He actually lost viewers to a fucking twitter space.
kek

>>40747895
This is some Jeffrey Dahmer levels of cannibalism

>>40747827
But right now IRyS isn't IRyS overlapping with Kronii and still have this good numbers?
Overlap will only cost you like 1K viewers at max. This is what IRyS usually gets. Around 8.5-9K on her own.
Collabs are not a good thing to determine their real audience if you know what I mean

>>40747849
That's how HoloEN usually does it

>>40747860
Anon…the people who carry those numbers you just mentioned are Luxiem, which he said are exceptions. And they are parasocial fucks

>>40747895
how can we save him?

>>40747895
Damn he isn’t just an accessory to the girls, he’s just an accessory in general

>>40747637
>>40747711

T3MPUS after all 3 waves will be like hunger games niji EN style. We laughed at iLuna but their box was already saturated at that time, same going to happen with the homos.

>>40747860
>merch sales
Citation needed. I dunno about the other claims but this needs some numbers.

>>40747818
In terms of personality there are similar. Landmine has more of a different fashion though. Landmine fashion is streetwear mixed with goth loli.
A girl is a landmine, because she is menhera.

>>40747997
Anon, 1 people overlap isn't shit. NijiEN often overlap themselves at 5 ot 6 at a time.

>>40747114
>debut buff
I said it with Salami and I’ll say it again wait 1 month.

>>40747997
It's RE7 part 1 she was supposed to get better than this

>>40747678
>I am just trying to understand why do the collabs do so much better than their solo streams
it's literally the main difference between Hololive and Nijisanji regarding their approach to vtubing.
Nijisanji is entirely built on attracting tourists with nonstop HUGE event collabs, clickbait titles and buff whatever flavor of the month buff content they can find. Which is why their talents can pull like 30-40k streams at random and then go back to being complete shitters the next day.

>>40747895
l-leader...

>>40747860
The ones raking in the money you mentioned are parasocial as fuck. Do you think Vox got his paypigs by being good at gaming?

>>40747860
You do know that even Luxiem fails to beat 1st army of Holo En for solo streams(1st Army is Gura, Ina, Mumei, IRyS and Fauna)

>>40747527
>>40748013
Should do the stars route. In PH in terms of fandom size, kpop/kdrama is like 3-4x more popular than anime/manga. Regis can take advantage of both by being the kpop guy who can sing english, japanese and korean.

>>40747935
>Popular
That is a strong word for anybody in NijiEN.

>>40747895
The game hes playing is a snore fest.
Sisters aren’t into fps games that aren’t Valorant/Apex.
The boys needs a manager that understands what yumes/fujos want. This includes ignoring girl collab requests and playing games girls can tolerate.

The only HomoStar with broad appeal is Vesper, MAGNI, and maybe Axel. The rest need to pander.

>>40748040
Anykara financial report. It show that NijiEN profits skyrocket, with a large part of it being merch sales

>>40748031
Watching an army of mediocre dudes fight to the death to get 1k ccv while whichever random HoloEN girl logs on and effortlessly mogs them all would be very entertaining.
In retrospect, it's hilarious HoloEN management thinks it's smart to get yet another new gen out soon. Retweeting that audition announcement in December. Honestly, what the fuck are they thinking?

>>40748127
1st army for EN is only gura and ina

>>40747895
Any homo watchers lurking here? Is he genuinely just not entertaining or something?

>>40748164
>Watching an army of mediocre dudes fight to the death to get 1k ccv while whichever random HoloEN girl logs on and effortlessly mogs them all would be very entertaining.
It's kinda fun in a way. Like watching cockfighting

HoloEN Is a genuine embarrassment to the hololive brand.
HoloID despite doing worse, is actually a market leader for the sea market.
In the other hand, HoloEN is the only branch of hololive that are undeniably mogged by another company's respective branch.
Cover need to cut their losses while they still can and memory hole them like they did that CN branch

>>40748127
Decent bait

>>40747827
False. What Niji En does is attract tourists. Even at the overlapping time, their numbers don't go beyond 20K combined

It hasn't even been A WEEK and I'm already excited to see their numbers in a month!

>>40748149
Popular is relative. Some NijiENs are more than others.

>>40748213
Okay sister

>>40747801
Actual homobox is like 7-8K for more they need tourists.

>>40748164
But anon, the girls are all mediocre too.
The only diff is that you want to fuck them.
There’s just more male spergs out there than females.

>>40748237
Tell me how I am wrong though. They all best Niji En. Do they not?

>>40748246
Depends on who is streaming and what they're streaming

>>40748164
I buy the theory that they bit more than they want to chew and hire 8 dudes, thinking they would be a success
They didn’t do so hot, and now they stuck with a bunch of homo they can’t kick out, so management decided to just pump them out asap to get it over with

How long is the collab ban for this new Tempus? 2 weeks?

>>40747637
Ego, or just the fact that the market for new Tempus gens is actually as limited as Cover *thinks* the market for EN3 is?

>>40748315
So does that mean that Holo En box is bigger than the Niji En box?
IRyS and Gura last year had the En streams with highest numbers

>>40748162
Uh huh, that's well known. Not what you claimed though. You said "more."

>>40748304
Oh yeah, they do, I was talking about the first army part. Like that other anon said, only Gura and Ina qualify as EN's "first army", saying half the branch is in the first army witch average CCV ranging from 18k to like 7k is just kinda silly. I thought you were trying to farm (yous)

>>40748332
Their box is 10k, while the HoloEN box is 50k.
It didn’t really grow with the new wave, but neither did EN after Council.

>>40748213
You go sis

>>40748363
No popular demand this time so the usual month

>>40748392
Not him but regarding that we never really have HoloEN numbers to compare, still can’t deny that NijiEN sales were big

>>40748379
Get ready for Elira 3D irystokek

>NijiEN box 25k
>HoloEN box 16k
>Tempus box 9k
Source: https://vrabi.net/labo/progress

NijiEN > HoloEN + Tempus

>>40748379
That's JP viewers

>>40748484
Oh yeah?
LISTEN UP, OMEGA! I DEMAND YOU LET THEM COLLAB

>>40748500
This Elira 3D thing is starting to feel like when everyone was hyping up Enna's outfit...

>>40747678
For Niji En it's pretty obvious that their graphs are not normal(especially for Luxiem). The niji girls get pretty accurate and normal looking graphs.
Most of the times the weird looking Holo graphs (like today for IRyS occurred because of the ons crashing and forcing Z twice) occur because of network issues.

>>40748164
Did ANYONE expect the Tempiss DLC to do so poorly when they were first announced?
This is a level of GRIM beyond comprehension. Like Vesper got 11k on his return zatsu last month, him getting suspended was more of a buff than a brand new entire gen debuting.

How tf did IRyS even got 92k tuning in? Where were they normally?

>>40748495
The numbers we can go off of are stocks and restocks in collabs.

>>40748500
If it beats Gura's 3D live, I'll kneel. If it doesn't, meh.

>>40748530
To be fair, a lot of really no name nijiJP end up having 70/80K+ 3D debut despite having an average of like 1K. We will have to see if it translate to EN.

>>40748379

November
>2022-11-04 Hololive EN 13,857
>2022-11-05 Nijisanji EN 21,026
>2022-11-06 Nijisanji EN 24,294
>2022-11-07 Nijisanji EN 16,608
>2022-11-08 Nijisanji EN 24,559
>2022-11-09 Nijisanji EN 21,139
>2022-11-10 Nijisanji EN 23,009
>2022-11-11 Nijisanji EN 19,917
>2022-11-12 Nijisanji EN 19,106
>2022-11-13 Nijisanji EN 21,829
>2022-11-14 Nijisanji EN 21,461
>2022-11-15 Hololive EN 25,686
>2022-11-16 Nijisanji EN 12,880
>2022-11-17 Hololive EN 22,562
>2022-11-18 Hololive EN 23,320
>2022-11-19 Nijisanji EN 17,339
>2022-11-20 Nijisanji EN 38,790
>2022-11-21 Nijisanji EN 32,650
>2022-11-22 Nijisanji EN 14,687
>2022-11-23 Hololive EN 25,232
>2022-11-24 Hololive EN 27,152
>2022-11-25 Nijisanji EN 21,610
>2022-11-26 Nijisanji EN 20,018
>2022-11-27 Hololive EN 97,697
>2022-11-28 Nijisanji EN 43,522
>2022-11-29 Hololive EN 20,328
>2022-11-30 Hololive EN 28,080

x18: Nijisanji EN
x9: Hololive EN

December
>1 10,890 Hololive EN
>2 32,273 Hololive EN
>3 19,080 Nijisanji EN
>4 22,199 Hololive EN
>5 25,235 Nijisanji EN
>6 27,405 Nijisanji EN
>7 31,680 Nijisanji EN
>8 28,773 Hololive EN
>9 23,619 Hololive EN
>10 80,755 Nijisanji EN
>11 42,767 Hololive EN
>12 19,831 Nijisanji EN
>13 22,830 Nijisanji EN
>14 23,708 Nijisanji EN
>15 38,565 Nijisanji EN
>16 22,728 Nijisanji EN
>17 22,455 Nijisanji EN
>18 23,844 Nijisanji EN
>19 20,732 Nijisanji EN
>20 43,457 Nijisanji EN
>21 41,650 Nijisanji EN
>22 30,171 Nijisanji EN
>23 23,511 Nijisanji EN
>24 28,613 Nijisanji EN
>25 24,013 Nijisanji EN
>26 23,842 Nijisanji EN
>27 21,754 Nijisanji EN
>28 19,435 Nijisanji EN
>29 48,224 Hololive EN
>30 14,352 Nijisanji EN
>31 28,187 Nijisanji EN

x24: Nijisanji EN
x7: Hololive EN

no

>>40748568
Watching nijien / flesh streamer

>>40748568
Watching HoloJP

>>40748568
algorithim and prob niji tourists

>>40748379
Both those girls got some JP tourists that catch their stuff.
Irys is JP and Gura acts like a child so it’s ez for the ojisans to tune into.

We’ve seen what the HOLOEN box looks like when the girls aren’t RAID chaining each other. Council are all around 2-5K, Gura is 15K, Ina is 10K.

>>40748601
>culled number vs unculled number

>>40748332
Tempus would’ve done better with 5-6 members if they wanted to chase the Nijisanji model management fucked up pushing out 8 when the StarsEN market is fairly new

>>40748601
>2022-11-27 Hololive EN 97,697
>10 80,755 Nijisanji EN
>no
Damn Nijiniggers are dumb and probably illiterate.

>>40748509
Your math bro. Though I agree that holostars should be counted separately.
Also, aren't there only two holos streaming right now?

>>40748601
This is what ultimately convinced me that NijiEN is more popular than HoloEN and has been that way for a few months or so

>>40748363
You think the girls are going to risk the valentines day payday by collabing with the homos this close to it?

>>40748332
This feels kinda plausible
They had these dudes waiting in the wings since October, because they got way too horny and overhired, and had to throw them to the wolves to get it over with. Even the drooling morons in HoloEN management must have known this timing was awful.

>>40748601
See
>>40748546

>>40748597
It'd be a damn shame if it didnt bc anykara would have to push through the obysidia and ethyria shitters before getting to luxiem 3D

>>40748592
Nothing should be compared to that abomination of a "live."

>>40748689
>Council 2-5K
aww look, it's retarded

>>40748740
Yes? Imagine being made aftaid to stream with your friends because of some mentality ill fags

>>40748741
idk about previous gen announcements, but they only gave 3 days notice as well, barely any promotion

>>40748568
Waiting for something exciting to happen. IRyS' thing was one of the few EN events for the entire year.

>>40748810
That's already how it is though

>>40748754
>chart-whisperer
I don't think even that get (You)s anymore.
Try a different cope, I heard vod ccv ratiocoping is back in fashion

Btw I heard the sister were mad Voltaction get outfit before Luxiem

>>40748810
so true sister

>>40748428
For holoEN to grow they need to breakout in another area. Their biggest attraction right now is 3d live. But en3 need to bring something new to the table.

>>40748213
>HoloID despite doing worse, is actually a market leader for the sea market.
The keyword is 'holo', if there was holoPH branch, they would lead the SEA market

>>40748846
Not for people like ame,mori and kronii who have their audiences under control

>40748860
Try harder

>>40748332
>8

T3MPUS was always planned for at least like 12 dudes 3 for 3 waves rather than "EN3". If they plan to debut last wave next the (((EN branch))) will have more dudes than girls, isn't that fucked up?

>>40748864
what the fuck is voltaction

>>40748530
Nijisanji can make 1k-streamers into 5-views for a day with it. She will get huge numbers.

>>40748732
>only two holes
Yes, and that's how they manipulate higher median/avg peak ccv. Sharing the same 16k viewers all around.

>>40748860
Really makes you think deluded the nijifags are. Tell me this, why do only the luxiem members get those graphs in that case?
Why not the girls?
Answer this and I will leave you alone

>>40748922
Isn't that Snapple Dazzlegarden's gen?

>>40748568
tourists. HoloEN is NijiJP equivalent. big normie mindshare

>>40748689
Kek

>>40748880
EN3, if they exist, need to bring another number getters, an active one
Current state of EN is the result of having only Gura to carry the branch numbers. And now that she is on break, she bring like half of the audience with her out of the box

>>40748823
Might be to avoid sub culls, worked pretty well.

>>40748910
Meant for >>40748860

>>40748601
>combined ccv

>>40749000
Luckily, Tempus2 wasn't going to have that problem in any case. How fortuitous for them!

>>40748922
NijiJP male gen

HomoEN3 is closer than you think

>>40748554
I did

Seriously, are there any actual retards here that still genuinely believes that HoloEN has more viewers than NijiEN??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJGZ3iyA_SA
Kanata has now made a cover song with all current Yonkisei members.

>>40748880
They need to do events and stuff.
It seems like Cover has some sort of retarded inhibition against doing ANY organizing or content generation on behalf of their talents, but they need to get over it and hire an event planner for EN who can just sit around and brainstorm collabs, and then pitch them to talents and organize them. Would be extremely worth the salary.

>>40748943
Do you really believe that they'll have the same box if they'd have 50% more members? Or twice for 20 in total?
Now, I don't think EN3 is coming anytime soon, but you're basically saying that all holoENs will be 3-views on average when they have more than 16 members.

>>40749106
Bots and tourists aren't their viewers sister

>>40749106
Tempoop debuts opens my eyes, it's a shitty situation to be in, but here we are.

>>40749188
They'll reduce their streaming hours until it's about equivalent to what they are now

>>40749106
They think Susan is culling some 20-30k viewers.
It’s some Qanon silent majority bs, these guys have similar brain worms.

>>40749106
HoloEN nowadays can’t even muster more than 2 streams at any given time so we have no way of knowing the true size of their current box
Box size can only be determined correctly through branch collab or if everyone is streaming at the same time. Until then NijiEN > HoloEN are still speculation

>>40749106
You need to try harder sister

>>40749106
Look at him go, how long will he keep it up this time?

>>40749188
Each member will just streams once a month if they have 30+ members. That's how they pad the numbers

I saw Magni at 3k. He got a raid?

>>40748911
Does that mean 4 more in 6 months? For their lives I hope they have en3 ready already.

>>40749106
So why do they flop individually?
You think spamming collabs is indicating their core audience?

>>40749309
Just have a Kaela in your branch ENchud

>>40749332
yes, from altare

Okay, /#/ experts, explain to me how is Tempus leading the pack right now and why is Nijisanji losing to them in mindshare?

>>40748922
Volt kilogram meter squared per second

>>40749340
I think they want both the boys and the girls to have equal number of people or some shit. Then they can just debut a male gen and a female gen every year

>>40749251
2 streams at any point of time is the 'new' normal for HoloEN anon.
you'd be seeing Tempus4 before they have sufficient amount of streams at once

Why are Nijiniggers acting up again?

>>40749106
>HoloEN has more viewers than NijiEN??
Yeah sister, tell them.
Tell them that Selen's 60K is bigger than Gura's 92K stream

Tell them Ren's 90K debut is bigger than IRyS's 92K stream

>>40749394
Look like new guy hour is up

>>40749332
>magni at 3k
>other fag (dunno the new guys' names) at 3k
>krongo at 5k
>analrys at 7k
So now that the dust has settled we can agree that holostars EN was neither a tremendous success nor a horrible failure, but has a better average CCV for all guys combined than Holostars JP, where Roberu and Astel sit at 1-3k CCV and everyone else has like 300-600 viewers because JP women take that idol shit seriously.

>>40749394
Iluna 3 views what went wrong?

>>40749394
>1 hour and 4 minutes
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEE OMEGA-SAMA

>>40749394
niji's quantity over quality is killing their brand

>>40749394
Oh that explains the nijisister spam

>>40749188
If they don’t get a unique girl wave like GAMERS..yeah EN3 would leech from the other girls CCV.

>>40748911
See, this is a better angle than t3mpus being EN3 in disguise. Anyone who would have just rolled their eyes and told you to fuck off before is now forced to actually consider it for a moment, good bait. Shit, I'm not even sure I don't believe it at this point, my expectations have never been lower.

>>40749431
>holoJP viewers

>>40749106
Fauna and Mumei can get 12k and Gura gets 20k if she ever streams again. In the CURRENT paradigm, with the return buff, Ina would somehow be the biggest holoen but that probably won't last.

But yeah nijinigs are down at like 700 CCV for people like Aia and Maria so I can say that yes HoloEN's average CCV is probably still higher.

>>40747353
POMU!
POMU!
POMU!

I really want to see Kronii playing a buff game without overlap to see how much she sitll can get, call me delusional but that The Mortuary Assistant stream could have got 11k (pic related)

>>40749106
Your company has literal 3 views>>40749145

>>40749394
AAAAAHHH BOTS

>>40749394
Nijisanji should stop copying Hololive and start delivering content that sets them apart from everyone else

>>40749245
>HoloEN is for Trump/Bolso supporters and nazbols who like russia
>NijiEN is for Biden/Lula supporters, canadians and chinese spies and ukrainian supporters from /k/
Big if true.

>>40748911
No way. From what we know they planned to have 6 and only hired 2 extra dudes later to make it 2 waves. Even if they have planned to have 12 dudes, they clearly haven’t hire them

>>40749394
Iluna has been a complete disaster.

>>40749532
I blame the homos, remember when kronii can get easy 20k when she streams

>>40749394
>~1k more watching NijiEN
/#/ and maths lmao

>>40749394
iLuna is a mistake

>>40749106
Who the fuck knows what the holoENbox is now. Half the branch is offline and when we do get streams it's by like two members overlapping eschother.
They need to fix their shit before we can measure anything heartedly. Or maybe they're just permanently killed, in which we might as well give up on the branch.

>>40749532
Check her RE8 streams

>>40749487
Unlike JP where new girls debut just feed more viewers into the old guards

>>40749508
Now that's some new sort of cope. 11:30am JST at a working day. I am so sure it's the JP viewers leaving their offices to see IRyS.
Btw at that time even Ame was streaming and had 5K

>>40749394
scarle trolldespair

>>40749603
9 vs 2

>>40749425
tempus is destroying them right now >>40749394

>>40749656
>ratiocope

>>40749106
Seriously, are there any retards here that genuinely believe that an HoloEN actually giving a fuck wouldn't completely mog NijiEN?
Gura could stream once every two weeks, put her reservation up 2 hours before, pick the absolute shittiest game she could find and get 10-20k CCV. The rest of the girls don't give a fuck either or actively try to sabotage themselves, so much that absolute runts like Fauna and IRyS are suddenly at the top of the HoloEN chain and have their own dedicated Nijischizo. And most hilarious tha fact that NijiEN is still struggling to defeat them when HoloEN is pretty much a rotten corpse by any mean.

>>40749581
It’s hard to look at, how do people unironically defend ACCELERATE?

>>40748554
I mean this thread talked about EN3 every day since summer, when they decided to push homos instead we thought EN3 will come in a month or two, than another month and another. Nobody waited for more homos, even homofans themselves.

>>40749576
I mean they tweeted out the homo audition again after setting up tempoop youtube, so they are looking for more dudes.

>>40749251
We do have the Pico Park collab for reference. It got around 26k-27k, I think.

>>40749612
They're not coming back, there won't be new members.
This is all there is.

>>40749603
>quantity over quality

>>40749656
What do you want?
Do you want Stars to be included in Hololive now?
Because if that's the case, Holo En miggs you by a long shot

>>40749691
Tempoop proves it works

>>40749394
>elira
She has always been boring plus she randomly takes breaks that break up the ability to watch her regularly. Same shit with IRyS it's why I don't bother watching them anymore because why get invested in someone who will go on another friends' vacay or have to "see the doctor for a week and can't stream". Fuck em.
>choo choo charles
Game is like 2 months old, boring, rosemi is dumb.
>xwholel
>ilowccv
Don't care about either of these.
>Tempussy
Because holoen has nothing else on and because tempus VG is new.

>>40749669
Looks like more people are watching nijiEN to me anon

>>40749713
Yeah, they haven’t hire them, they are not ready yet

>>40749457
Nope, they lost the privilage to call themselves Stars when they stopped acting like such. They are HoloproEN talents and by that standard they are an absolute fucking failure.

>>40749682
NijiEN is NijiCN.
More zhangs than westerners.

HoloEN gets more regular Ccv cause Nijisisters are phonewatching tourists. But Niji events mog HoloEN.

>>40749394
>EN "Gen" and "Wave" power rankings

1. Myth

- MASSIVE POWER GAP -

2. Luxiem
3. CouncilRyS
4. Noctyx
5. Tempus
6. Obsydia
7. Ethyria
8. Lazulight
9. Xsoliel
10. iLuna

>>40749768
>Because holoen has nothing else on
There are literally 2 holoen streams, just not pictured
oh huh how did rosemi get 3k-
>raid
ah ofc

>>40749682
>w-we'll be more popular if we t-tried
Lmao, meanwhile IRyS starts 3 minutes earlier to maximize her numbers (and still didn't get gold lmao)

>>40749682
Only Kronii, Mori and Ame don't give a fuck. The others are numberfags

>I have fled the country
>*privates video*
What is going on with this guy.

>>40749532
I think what makes Kronii the biggest disappointment in holoEN is that she was gifted megabuffs that could've put her toe to toe with Gura. Like seriously there is another timeline out there where Kronii is the second strongest EN vtuber.

yay or nay?

>>40749564
Lula is an old school Soviet Russiaboo. The B in BRICS is Brazil. Globohomo reinstalling him was a retarded self-own, like NijiEN hiring Yugo.

>>40749840
There's no real basis for putting Luxiem above Councilrys except faded memories of past glory desu

>>40749818
>mori gets 2k ccv
Oh geez.

>>40749829
Again. IRyS redesign and Gura 3D.

>>40749875
look at his pfp anon, he is noir vesper, and he will bring salvation to holoEN

>>40749882
Phase Connect chad status?

>>40749873
Add Gura and I'll agree.

>>40749457
>but has a better average CCV for all guys combined than Holostars JP
Why keep comparing them to StarsJP? The new dudes with debut buff get half of what the first ones got. Not to mention the debut numbers

>>40749875
Best holoproEN zatsu in a long time

>>40749829
>more regular viewers
>Tally is 5-4 for Nijisanji this month (about to be 6-4)
There's not even any events/debuts/anniversary/offcollab arc/etc for NijiEN this month so far.
Can't say the same to the other (losing) tribe however

>>40749911
To be fair I actually had to think about that one as they were really really close. I only placed Luxiem ahead of them due to their higher ceilings for events.

>>40749682
>Gura could stream once every two weeks
Gura is literally dead, she's not coming back

>>40749878
She just doesn’t care about the numbers mindset.
Probably joined cause for the VA connections.

Some chuubas just don’t care lol, they’re comfortable making six figures instead of seven.

>>40749875
Feel like they want to fire this guy but can't because he's their biggest star at the moment.

>>40747948
Perhaps it's a strategy of some sort? Vshojo twitchfag knows it's all about the "drama" being unable to start 2 fucking times can give you more attention than actually streaming, either that or he thinks he can reach more fans through twitter than yt which might be true, twitter is a female-dominated platform afaik part of the reason why nijis are so big there when the streams don't perform so great.

>>40749875
going to rape JP housewives

>>40749882
I sometimes wonder the point of joining a big corpo only to get these results

>>40749958
https://twitter.com/h2osakana/status/1612887677506064384?s=46&t=m_Xbb6qQ2JORTRtrC6R5dQ
Most based CEO

>Daily zatsu
Is Jojolion trying to steal Vespers lunch or something?

>>40749829
>But Niji events mog HoloEN
no shit, what fucking events does HoloEN even have at this point? So much that Nijitrannies are gloating about a 4 men collab with their strongest star beating a shitty IRyS solo gaming stream >>40749850

>>40749987
I mean she only applied because her friends also did and stumbled into the job

>>40749980
That's fair, and I also think of you were looking at vtubers 10 years from now you'd certainly give Luxiem more historical weight than Council unless they do something amazing in the future

>>40749875
He got super drunk and made a joke about nutting to the shota debut.

>RRAT
I was there, 100% REAL

>>40749873
Sure........
Ina is a numberfag, this is why she streams like crazy
Gura is a numberfag, that's why she doesn't take so many leaves
Mumei is a numberfag, that's why she does so many unannounced streams
IRyS is a numberfag so she streams in JP hours nowadays and not in En
>>40749850
>3 mins
Oh my god sistahs.
Btw, even if she started the stream a little later nothing would be different

>>40749958
THRIVING

>>40750016
Scarle and Aia are probably making more than they were before Niji. Most of Iluna's personal channels were dead or dying at the time

>>40749911
Their peak is much higher than Coucilrys while their average isn't that far behind. They are definitely close, but I would put them ahead as well.

>>40746893
December rankings
Hololive
>1. Amane Kanata - $103,410
>2. Hakui Koyori - $62,076
>3. Tsunomaki Watame - $56,679
>4. Sakamata Chloe - $55,491
>5. Sakura Miko - $48,451
>6. Usada Pekora - $45,764
>7. Momosuzu Nene - $39,586
>8. Yukihana Lamy - $38,066
>9. Houshou Marine - $36,880
>10. Nakiri Ayame - $36,546
>11. Natsuiro Matsuri - $29,234
>12. Oozora Subaru - $25,353
>13. IRyS - $25,306
>14. Nekomata Okayu - $25,258
>15. Mori Calliope - $22,791
>16. Ceres Fauna - $22,511
>17. Minato Aqua - $21,853
>18. Ookami Mio - $21,461
>19. Shiranui Flare - $21,088
>20. Kaela Kovalskia - $20,289
>21. Kazama Iroha - $19,940
>22. Inugami Korone - $19,583
>23. Tokoyami Towa - $17,885
>24. Murasaki Shion - $17,570
>25. Ouro Kronii - $17,126
>26. Nanashi Mumei - $16,828
>27. Hakos Baelz - $16,066
>28. Shirogane Noel - $15,084
>29. Takane Lui - $14,821
>30. Hoshimachi Suisei - $14,422
>31. Takanashi Kiara - $14,390
>32. Shirakami Fubuki - $12,167
>33. Roboco - $11,196
>34. Vestia Zeta - $10,200
>35. Gawr Gura - $9,759
>36. Tokino Sora - $7,920
>37. Himemori Luna - $7,202
>38. Aki Rosenthal - $6,861
>39. Omaru Polka - $6,856
>40. Kobo Kanaeru - $6,651
>41. Shishiro Botan - $6,332
>42. Hololive - $6,213
>43. Watson Amelia - $6,212
>44. Pavolia Reine - $5,510
>45. Kureiji Ollie - $5,181
>46. Akai Haato - $4,438
>47. Yozora Mel - $3,786
>48. Anya Melfissa - $3,495
>49. Moona Hoshinova - $2,108
>50. AZKi - $1,680
>51. Yuzuki Choco - $1,313
>52. Airani Iofifteen - $1,077
>53. Ayunda Risu - $806
>54. Laplus Darknesss - $0
>54. Ninomae Ina'nis - $0

>>40749882
the whole HoloEN vs NijiEN debate can rage on or whatever but on their own, iLuna has to be the biggest flop to ever exist on the EN side of corpo vtubing

>>40749875
The tempus sisters were claiming he was drunk as fuck and shitting on management in that stream, I didn't verify if it was true though

>>40749990
>stars lags behind holo for years
>some guy looks like he might jump from 5k ccv to 7k to 10k and actually make it something worth talking about
>SUSPENDED
I get the feeling the stars management actively wants it to fail, or at least don't want anyone to stand out too much.

>>40750028
Probably why Vesper is getting his boys to overlap him.

>>40748180
His voice sucks but it might work for the ladies idk, there is nothing that really makes him stand out as far as I can tell.

>>40750099
Nijisanji
>1. Kagami Hayato - $92,987
>2. Kuzuha - $61,128
>3. Vox Akuma - $59,116
>4. Hex Haywire - $43,413
>5. Mysta Rias - $40,587
>6. Luca Kaneshiro - $38,023
>7. Tsukino Mito - $36,223
>8. Furen E Lustario - $35,386
>9. Alban Knox - $34,238
>10. Leos Vincent - $32,088
>11. Fulgur Ovid - $30,251
>12. Kenmochi Toya - $28,194
>13. Watarai Hibari - $25,563
>14. Scarle Yonaguni - $24,749
>15. Fuwa Minato - $23,950
>16. Ike Eveland - $23,840
>17. Kanae - $23,301
>18. Kaida Haru - $22,392
>19. Millie Parfait - $21,551
>20. Selen Tatsuki - $19,047
>21. Pomu Rainpuff - $18,151
>22. Shikinagi Akira - $17,482
>23. Saegusa Akina - $17,424
>24. Fushimi Gaku - $16,838
>25. Debidebi Debiru - $16,706
>26. Lauren Iroas - $16,623
>27. Ibrahim - $13,863
>28. Yuki Chihiro - $13,285
>29. Kurusu Natsume - $13,086
>30. Enna Alouette - $12,189
>31. Seraph Dazzlegarden - $12,165
>32. Ars Almal - $12,101
>33. Nina Kosaka - $11,587
>34. Uki Violeta - $11,240
>35. Hyakumantenbara Salome - $11,014
>36. Kitakoji Hisui - $10,851
>37. Ver Vermillion - $10,639
>38. Inui Toko - $10,469
>39. Harusaki Air - $10,227
>40. Oliver Evans - $9,792
>41. Zaion LanZa - $9,729
>42. Dola - $8,890
>43. Kyo Kaneko - $8,850
>44. Maria Marionette - $8,812
>45. Sonny Brisko - $8,592
>46. Nui Sociere - $8,522
>47. Fura Kanato - $8,445
>48. Elira Pendora - $8,325
>49. Yumeoi Kakeru - $8,294
>50. Ren Zotto - $8,280

>>40750040
No one will ever dethrone Myth and Luxiem as the trailblazers of "western" female and male streamers, respectively. Even if HoloEN and NijiEN somehow find a gen of more popular streamers, they won't be as historically significant.

>>40750077
Ina and Gura hate streaming and the other 2 are stupid

>>40749882
matching iluna to tempus is i think the biggest blunder that a corpo has made

>Ame birthday
>JP offcollabs
>Ina 3-month return
>still loses the monthly tally so far
What happened to HoloEN????????
How did they lose to NijiEN doing random tourney and streams????

>>40750165
Others
>1. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $47,167
>2. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $38,893
>3. Otodama Tamako (Aogiri High School) - $32,285
>4. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $25,538
>5. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $25,343
>6. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $24,662
>7. kson (Vshojo) - $23,785
>8. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $21,658
>9. Nekozeno Shin (Noripro) - $21,099
>10. Komori Met (774) - $19,697
>11. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $16,722
>12. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $16,097
>13. Hoozuki Warabe (Noripro) - $15,521
>14. Shirakaba Ruruha (independent) - $15,043
>15. Yamaguro Nekuro (Aogiri High School) - $13,697
>16. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $13,475
>17. Ogiya Milk (Sinsogumi) - $13,014
>18. Nagino Mashiro (independent) - $12,525
>19. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $12,525
>20. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $12,209
>21. HimeHina (independent) - $12,117
>22. Inari Iroha (Noripro) - $12,036
>23. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $11,452
>24. Gabu Rieru (Aogiri High School) - $11,359
>25. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $10,748
>26. Suou Patra (774) - $10,353
>27. Shitagai Nora (Sinsogumi) - $10,223
>28. Natori Sana (independent) - $9,985
>29. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $9,906
>30. Yukoku Roberu (Holostars) - $9,696
>31. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $9,568
>32. Natsume Eri (independent) - $9,568
>33. Fuji Aoi (independent) - $9,370
>34. Nekota Pepero (Masquerade) - $8,800
>35. Kagura Suzu (.LIVE) - $8,731
>36. Domyoji Cocoa (Riot Music) - $8,600
>37. Virtual Obaachan (independent) - $8,574
>38. Kaga Sumire (VSPO) - $8,504
>39. Mikan and the Vocal Note (independent) - $8,328
>40. Kawasaki Sui (independent) - $8,316
>41. Kamikurai Leto (independent) - $8,133
>42. Tenjin Kotone (independent) - $8,099
>43. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $7,891
>44. Nenemaru (Sinsogumi) - $7,467
>45. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $7,357
>46. Fujimura-san (independent) - $7,334
>47. Ratio Yuires (Project YuiRes) - $7,284
>48. Kagura Mea (independent) - $7,159
>49. Margaret North (The Box) - $7,142
>50. Manjichan (independent) - $6,988

>>40750153
Come on this post HAS to be bait. Vespertrannies can't be this deluded, right?

>>40750094
Why do you all say thier peak is higher than CouncilRyS?
Last time i checked IRyS had a peak of almost 93K

>>40748089
Anon please holoEN overlap hell is brutal.

>>40750219
2022 superchat rankings

Hololive
>1. Sakamata Chloe - $905,275
>2. Hakui Koyori - $788,092
>3. Yukihana Lamy - $489,419
>4. Kazama Iroha - $478,819
>5. Usada Pekora - $477,769
>6. Houshou Marine - $451,495
>7. Amane Kanata - $421,631
>8. Momosuzu Nene - $413,493
>9. Sakura Miko - $410,574
>10. Tsunomaki Watame - $399,657
>11. Takanashi Kiara - $344,673
>12. Oozora Subaru - $338,607
>13. Shiranui Flare - $338,045
>14. Mori Calliope - $330,576
>15. Takane Lui - $329,131
>16. Shirogane Noel - $326,565
>17. Nekomata Okayu - $324,576
>18. Tokoyami Towa - $310,804
>19. Inugami Korone - $299,897
>20. IRyS - $283,168
>21. Natsuiro Matsuri - $262,022
>22. Ceres Fauna - $260,092
>23. Minato Aqua - $244,967
>24. Ouro Kronii - $242,770
>25. Laplus Darknesss - $236,843
>26. Gawr Gura - $230,092
>27. Hakos Baelz - $229,846
>28. Hoshimachi Suisei - $203,673
>29. Shirakami Fubuki - $201,025
>30. Nanashi Mumei - $195,288
>31. Uruha Rushia - $186,323
>32. Himemori Luna - $178,861
>33. Watson Amelia - $177,111
>34. Murasaki Shion - $171,945
>35. Shishiro Botan - $167,525
>36. Ookami Mio - $160,516
>37. Nakiri Ayame - $147,834
>38. Omaru Polka - $141,150
>39. Kaela Kovalskia - $140,392
>40. Aki Rosenthal - $112,767
>41. Tokino Sora - $109,693
>42. Ninomae Ina'nis - $106,053
>43. Tsukumo Sana - $102,900
>44. Vestia Zeta - $91,312
>45. Kureiji Ollie - $75,572
>46. Roboco - $67,718
>47. Yozora Mel - $66,387
>48. Akai Haato - $65,901
>49. Pavolia Reine - $59,157
>50. Kobo Kanaeru - $50,944
>51. Yuzuki Choco - $48,030
>52. Moona Hoshinova - $44,197
>53. AZKi - $26,563
>54. Anya Melfissa - $25,069
>55. Hololive - $22,166
>56. Ayunda Risu - $21,285
>57. Airani Iofifteen - $21,108

>>40750194
NijiEN management is lucky that HoloEN's unconscionable management blunders have taken the heat off of their embarrassing mistakes
Imagine if they had put out EN3 instead of Tempus2, how bad that all would look for NijiEN

>>40750153
No the suspension actually saved his ass as he was declining to 2k ccv at the time.

>>40750218
skill and popularity issue

>>40750016
Technically they can tap into the niji fanbase. But at this point it's only a matter of time before Phase and Niji are roughly equals. Phase grinded hard for their numbers, Niji was resting on an established brand. But Niji's strategy is to keep debuting people until one of them makes it big so it was never a guarantee. Technically hololive is the only company that cares about trying to groom their livers to be generally successful.

>>40750153
(YOU)

>>40750218
(no delivery)

>>40750231
Luxiem's peak destroys any councilrys. Only mumei and kronii at their peaks can somewhat contest peak luxiem. The rest have never had tourist draw. Don't give me that one off irys 93k stream bullshit.

>>40750028
He's going for Fulgur's audience
>comfykois
>comfydants
This guy thinks he's slick lol

>>40750130
>Wanted to buy real NIPPON STEEL and matching Samurai Armor and show up to the Manager apology meeting
>Made a joke about nutting to the Shota debut
>Got so drunk he didn’t realize he was streaming the last 15 minutes

>>40750274
Nijisanji
>1. Vox Akuma - $1,090,184
>2. Luca Kaneshiro - $608,962
>3. Fuwa Minato - $583,946
>4. Ike Eveland - $479,932
>5. Leos Vincent - $430,816
>6. Kaida Haru - $426,490
>7. Kuzuha - $412,171
>8. Mysta Rias - $408,056
>9. Mayuzumi Kai - $370,512
>10. Alban Knox - $369,799
>11. Kagami Hayato - $349,232
>12. Fushimi Gaku - $336,558
>13. Shu Yamino - $323,667
>14. Kanae - $319,276
>15. Saegusa Akina - $253,149
>16. Fulgur Ovid - $241,794
>17. Pomu Rainpuff - $235,364
>18. Sonny Brisko - $234,092
>19. Oliver Evans - $228,312
>20. Lauren Iroas - $211,245
>21. Hyakumantenbara Salome - $206,775
>22. Yuki Chihiro - $199,662
>23. Selen Tatsuki - $191,822
>24. Nagao Kei - $190,868
>25. Ibrahim - $178,499
>26. Kenmochi Toya - $170,070
>27. Uki Violeta - $166,434
>28. Furen E Lustario - $158,768
>29. Ange Katrina - $145,601
>30. Shirayuki Tomoe - $143,023
>31. Elira Pendora - $136,508
>32. Yugo Asuma - $131,869
>33. Scarle Yonaguni - $128,659
>34. Inui Toko - $123,630
>35. Nina Kosaka - $120,047
>36. Enna Alouette - $119,580
>37. Millie Parfait - $112,431
>38. Genzuki Tojiro - $109,788
>39. Tsukino Mito - $108,781
>40. Axia Krone - $102,504
>41. Kurusu Natsume - $102,357
>42. Watarai Hibari - $93,219
>43. Ars Almal - $90,464
>44. Debidebi Debiru - $89,464
>45. Sukoya Kana - $87,384
>46. Suzuki Masaru - $86,802
>47. Sasaki Saku - $82,094
>48. Hanabatake Chaika - $82,015
>49. Lize Helesta - $81,248
>50. Joe Rikiichi - $81,027
>51. Suou Sango - $79,187
>52. Rosemi Lovelock - $78,277
>53. Yumeoi Kakeru - $73,516
>54. Amamiya Kokoro - $70,373
>55. Finana Ryugu - $68,981
>56. Elu - $68,836
>57. Machita Chima - $68,353
>58. Yorumi Rena - $67,405
>59. Shiina Yuika - $66,637
>60. Yashiro Kizuku - $63,655

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1613044568139927552?s=46&t=m_Xbb6qQ2JORTRtrC6R5dQ
She is confused

Why are holofags even doing damage control for HoloEN?
Aren't they doing this for free? The talents and management doesn't even care about the content they like and appreciate.

>>40750326
>Don't give me that one off irys 93k stream bullshit.
But tell me how am I wrong here?
She did get 93K, didn't she?

>>40750347
Others
>1. kson (independent/Vshojo) - $480,387
>2. Chiyoura Chiyomi (Aogiri High School) - $203,904
>3. Matsunaga Iori (Riot Music) - $198,477
>4. Oma Kirara (Noripro) - $159,149
>5. Kurikoma Komaru (Aogiri High School) - $154,014
>6. Nekozeno Shin (Noripro) - $151,021
>7. Kurumizawa Momo (Noripro) - $134,836
>8. Kurumi Noah (VSPO) - $128,726
>9. Shirayuki Mishiro (Noripro) - $125,171
>10. Shitagai Nora (Sinsogumi) - $113,714
>11. Otodama Tamako (Aogiri High School) - $113,165
>12. Suou Patra (774) - $112,306
>13. Pipkin Pippa (Phase Connect) - $105,017
>14. Inari Iroha (Noripro) - $104,337
>15. Natsume Eri (independent) - $102,480
>16. Hizaki Gamma (Holostars) - $101,467
>17. Ichinose Uruha (VSPO) - $101,390
>18. Shirayuri Lily (ViViD) - $99,137
>19. Aizawa Ema (VSPO) - $97,348
>20. Astel Leda (Holostars) - $93,870
>21. Mizuki (Meridian Project) - $91,485
>22. Reglush Lionheart (Noripro) - $90,996
>23. Hoshino Supika (Masquerade) - $90,905
>24. Rumi (independent) - $88,798
>25. Noir Vesper (Holostars) - $87,201
>26. Natori Sana (independent) - $84,390
>27. Tabasuko (Mirolive) - $83,033
>28. Oshiro Mashiro (Aogiri High School) - $82,919
>29. Kizuna AI (Kizuna AI inc.) - $79,675
>30. Fuji Aoi (independent) - $79,667
>31. Hoozuki Warabe (Noripro) - $79,503
>32. Kanade Mimi (independent) - $79,303
>33. Mikan and the Vocal Note (independent) - $79,178
>34. Shinomiya Runa (VSPO) - $79,017
>35. Average (independent) - $76,569
>36. Amano Pikamee (VOMS) - $76,477
>37. Komori Met (774) - $71,294
>38. Inaba Haneru (774) - $69,386
>39. QuonTama (Guild QC) - $65,687
>40. Kokorone Hana (independent) - $65,156
>41. Tachibana Hinano (VSPO) - $62,627
>42. Nanto Kanaru (independent) - $62,151
>43. Yukoku Roberu (Holostars) - $61,741
>44. Namahoshi-chan (Sinsogumi) - $61,618
>45. Regis Altare (Holostars) - $61,483
>46. Kaga Sumire (VSPO) - $61,140
>47. Magni Dezmond (Holostars) - $60,645
>48. Joyu (independent) - $60,528
>49. Domyoji Cocoa (Riot Music) - $60,155
>50. Shigure Ui (independent) - $59,631

>>40750297
>Phase and Niji are roughly equals
So.. Phase = Pippa? No one else there gets even close to her numbers

>>40750326
What the fuck do you call IRyS' 93k if not tourist draw
That's literally what tourist draw is

>>40748158
>and maybe Axel

How? Him and blue one are and always were in the same shitter league. Pretty regis is actually better at streaming.

https://twitter.com/drewmaywallace/status/1612994307589550081?s=20&t=2uVMPdlVjkTyT_Eeyo96uA
I know this is one of (You). Now show your brown skin so we can laugh at your dwarf self, little man.

>>40750218
NijiEN box things and Holo EN being on a deplorable state while greenlighting more homo shitters I guess.

>>40750401
GIFTED MEMBERSHIPS FOR DECEMBER

Holo JP
>Watame: 5,660
>Nene: 4,366
>Pekora: 4,039
>Chloe: 3,321
>Koyori: 3,215
>Kanata: 3,115
>Haachama: 2,442
>Lui: 1,951
>Luna: 1,745
>Miko: 1,613
>Suisei: 1,390
>Sora: 1,229
>Flare: 1,414
>Iroha: 1,367
>Fubuki: 1,102
>Towa: 903
>Marine: 832
>Roboco: 634
>Matsuri: 577
>Noel: 517
>Lamy: 477
>Mel: 374
>Botan: 373
>Polka: 324
>Okayu: 319
>AZKi: 293

Holo EN
>Mumei: 970
>Fauna: 824
>Bae: 767
>IRyS: 739
>Mori: 498
>Kronii: 426
>Kiara: 402
>Ame: 267
>Gura: 164

Holo ID
>Kaela: 1,366
>Kobo: 718
>Zeta: 687
>Anya: 313
>Iofi: 268
>Risu: 145
>Reine: 106
>Moona: 101
>Ollie: 63

>>40750312
Damn right I got a (You).

>>40750077
IRyS doesn't stream in JP hours retard. She did a stream and a twitter space there because she wasn't home earlier due to meeting up with other ENs in the day. her normal gam streams have been around her usual time.

>>40750326
That was in the past. Now the Luxiem don't draw in tourists. Also i think having a core audience is more important than having tourists who will fuck off

>>40750382
>>40750411
NTA but show me where Irys's 20k handcam is then
Luxiem boys get stupid amounts of tourism

>>40750231
Cool, how about the rest of the gen. Again, it's close.

>>40750382
>>40750411
If Elira gets a similar peak, is that gonna count as Lazulight tourist draw? Be real, IRyS's stream was an event stream that was supported by the wider holobox

>>40750403
pippa fags can't bother to watch other chuubas, sorry anon

Bro fr fr why does Pekora and Koyori tweeting in the same style now

how do we save HoloEN?

>>40750367
I can clarify it to her but it has to be in the form of sexual intercourse.

>>40750371
I defend other companies too and support vspo and 774 when they get big number. It's all just a game to me, like sports teams except sports is retarded and gay.

>>40750297
>But at this point it's only a matter of time before Phase and Niji are roughly equals.
Delusional phaseshill. Even the biggest shitter of NijiEN makes more in a month than your star Pippa does in a year. And let's not get over the rest of phase who are shitters.

>>40750326
Anon, IRyS, Fauna and Mumei get better medians than luxiem.
IRyS, Mumei and Kronii get better peaks.
That's it

>>40750560
She is really the le quirky girl of Phase. Even her avatar have to hit different

>>40750515
Ughhh anon, she never did a handcam stream FFs.
She never even does ASMR or Handcam shit. That's for her members only

I really don't understand why they still spam celebration stream and it's just a month at that. Why can't they just stream normally like everyone else? Tempus does little to no gimmicky streams and they're doing quite well so far beating the established NijiEN talents.

>HoloEN lost may
>Holofags: It doesn't count since they are off collabing every day
>Holofags: HoloEN lost december
>It doesn't count since they have debuts and anniversaries
>HoloEN slated to lose january
>Holofags: ... B-bots...
The absolute state

>>40750560
>>40750633
>>40750403
Shiina, Lia, Hime get 400-500 ccv
Lumi at 1000-2000 and is the 9th largest vtuber on twitch.

Pipper is just the gura of phase and could touch 10k if she shows her feet again.

>>40750560
Imagine having your entire company depend on a schizo /here/fag. Fishman has got his work cut out for him

>>40750382
redjuice got 93k

>>40750539
So you're saying that Luxiem getting 20k on handcam jerking off my bros in the shower or whatever is tourist draw (e.g. pulling in non-fans or extremely peripheral fans), and IRyS 93k on a redesign... is not? Is core HoloEN audience?

>>40748158
Valo and APEX are only good solo if the player is really good or if they're really bad (like Rushia). Otherwise only appeal is collab with other streamers or viewers.

>>40750597
No councilrys at the moment has better peaks than luxiem. Kronii and mumei are both gigawashed and irys has hit 20k like twice in her life outside of debut and redesign.

>>40750560
i want fuck uruka's thighs, god she's the perfect woman
phasefaggots have no taste

>>40750326
Only Vox and Mysta when they spam collabs and shit. For normal streams those two are about on par with the Fauna, Mumei, and IRyS. The other three (Luca, Ike, and Shu) can't even measure up with Bae.

>40750682
How are they not bots faggot. Just tell me why do the niji girls not have similar graphs?

>>40750698
She's KF not /vt/, if she was the latter she wouldn't like Holostars

>>40750598
>makes more
This has no impact on me, it's like telling me that the redskins (commanders is a stupid name) made more than the cowboys even though the cowboys dunked on them in every game last season as is tradition.

I don't care if elon musk is the 1st, 2nd or 3rd richest tech billionaire, him being a billionaire does nothing for me.

Likewise I only care if vtubers have large viewers, as it means their fanbase is expanding.

>>40750743
Meant for >>40750682

>>40750729
>irys has hit 20k like twice in her life outside of debut and redesign
Why do say something that can easily be disapproved anon

>>40750676
Wtf are they even celebrating?
There isn't anything for a big event worth watching right now.

>>40750585
>It's all just a game to me, like sports teams except sports is retarded and gay
This, if anyone actually takes to heart the retarded and disingenuous shitflinging that happens in this thread and actually cares this much about some retarded tally that the thread just made up that's a mental health issue that's bigger than just Vtubers

>>40750676
nijisanji's working environment got to be chaotic
its dog eat dog world in there, they gotta do anything to stay afloat

>>40750682
What about the other months?

>>40750698
She attracts some /pol/fags, so it’s not all /Vt/ viewers.
Her content is mostly lazy REACT streams, evergreen content pulls higher viewers.
All the Pippafags losing their minds over this should go back to Twitch

>>40750695
Did Tenma graduate?

>>40750676
God Nui. Shes the only Niji ill give a view to. Beautiful but dumb, sexy " can you believe she's not a hag" hag.

>>40750825
Tell that to this mentally ill anon here
>>40750743

>>40749840
>Myth above Council
LOL

>>40750654
Don't give me bullshit. There is no way she didn't do any GFE Asmr and handca in 1.5 years?
Who are you kidding. She is literally the GFE streamer

>>40750695
Lumi is not at that level yet she's barely scraping 1k off her redesign hype
I can agree that she's not doing poorly though

>All these fucking raids from HomoEN
>Still not enough for the 5k to reach the shitty EN tally

Do you guys think that the raid spam was also a factor in repelling tourists for Tempus2?

>>40750825
Yeah I feel bad for folks that get too attached to numbers and feel bad when their oshi doesn't get EN gold or whatever. I totally compartmentalize this from my enjoyment of actual streams

>>40750837
February 2023 all the way to December 2039 are all slated W for NijiEN

>>40750891
Listen, I love Council too but nobody in Council can compete with Gura and Ina when it comes to numbers.

>>40750814
>>40750887
>Still projecting and refusing to answer
I accept your defeat

>>40750813
It's the Nijitranny strategy Anon. Ignore every piece of context and spam false shit while having a mental breakdown.
They got kinda quiet after the NY event and Pekora's string of 100k streams, now for some fucking reason they are back in full force and as obnoxious as ever. I just wanna shit on Tempoop in peace.

>>40750778
She shits on Tempus just to shill them a couple hours later. Sounds pretty much exactly like global to me

>>40750791
The cowboys are shitters too. Going one and done in the playoffs isn't really any more meaningful than just barely missing out because some retard thinks starting Carson Wentz over Heinicke is a good idea

>>40750863
Anon didn’t mention her cause she regularly BTFO spergs like him kek.
Tenma is the second strongest Phase. Arguably the strongest Phase as she doesn’t bait /pol/ like Pippa does.

>>40749840
This is actually very fair and nobody should take issue with it.

>>40750922
>redesign hype
Please don't tell me people actually like her awful redesign. Her old model was perfect. New one is completely soulless.

>>40750695
>Shiina, Lia, Hime get 400-500 ccv
You could attach something to these claims since the last time I watched Shiina she was at best 300CV

>Lumi at 1000-2000
Huh?
https://twitchtracker.com/kanekolumi

>>40750729
And this is what I mean. They will refuse to answer why the luxiem members you bots and start lying again to spin the narrative

>>40751050
Nah i much prefer the old one but it clearly gave her hype numbers wise since I don't think she ever got that many 1ks before

>>40751050
There’s some anons cooming to the Booba, writing passages explaining how it’s the second coming of Christ.
Old model made her look cute, the new one just makes her look like a bitch.

>>40751040
>Nobody should take issue with it
I can see some HoloEN fans taking issue with putting Luxiem ahead of CouncilRyS. I can also see NijiEN fans seething that Tempus is above all the non-all male NijiEN waves.

Seethe councilsharts
Luxiem >>>>>council historically

>Gold
98x: Gura
33x: Mysta
28x: Vox
27x: Mumei
17x: Kronii
16x: Baelz
15x: Mori, Fauna
13x: IRyS
12x: Ina, Luca
11x: Kiara, Amelia
8x: Yugo
5x: Ike, Shu
4x: Ren, Uki
3x: Magni, Selen
2x: Sana, Petra, Elira, Noir, Enna, Meloco, Fungus
1x: Nina, Alban, Sara, Rosemi, Elira, Axel, Finana, Maria, Hex, Kyo

>Silver
35x: Mumei
34x: Mysta
32x: Vox
26x: Fauna
22x: Amelia
20x: Ina, Mori, Luca
19x: IRyS
16x: Baelz
14x: Shu, Gura
10x: Ike
9x: Kronii
7x: Selen
5x: Enna
4x: Yugo, Fungus, Alban
3x: Ren, Regis, Elira, Noir, Kiara, Uki
2x: Sonny, Nina, Millie, Kyo
1x: Axel, Aster, Rosemi, Petra, Magni, Reimu, Ver, Hex

>Bronze
42x: Mysta
35x: Vox
28x: Fauna
25x: Kronii
24x: Ina
23x: Mumei
22x: Mori, Amelia
21x: Baelz
19x: Luca
15x: IRyS
11x: Shu
8x: Magni, Gura
7x: Kiara, Ike
4x: Yugo, Pomu, Elira, Regis
3x: Uki, Petra
2x: Alban, Maria, Rosemi, Sana, Enna
1x: Selen, Fungus, Aia, Axel, Millie, Nina, Noir, Reimu, Meloco, Pippa

>>40748740
Kronii would

>>40750579
>december when half of them are on breaks/travel for holidays
they literally only need to stream

>>40751050
The fucking vei sameface and no intense eyes filtered me hard. They had 3 fucking people working on that, could no one call out neonbeat's sameface syndrome? Even the bangs look sameish

>>40750973
It's simple. I don't know if the luxiem guys use bots for sure but their viewers are from mainland China and not from places like Honk Kong and Taiwan. Those people hate Niji En.
But here is the thing, the Chinese people have started to hate Niji En as well. So I can't be certain if they are using vpns or bots

>>40750935
I don't know about others but I hate being directed to an unrelated stream. Even if the raiders are friends. If I was watching an action game and get raided to a puzzle game or so I would hate it. These guys are abusing raids but we don't know if it has any negative effects.

I really hate how nijisanji lowered the bar enoguh for shitters like phase connect be allowed in here

>>40751168
kronii's an idiot

Will the Mel offcollab hit 18k bros? Is 20 too much to hope for?
14k floor, 18k good, 20k+ kneel?

Some of the homo's and holo's best number has been Tempus x HoloEN collab, they also have more hetero shipping than homo shipping.
I believe the best way for them to incline is to ship them with females either with Holos or preferably just debut a new mix gender Tempus.

>>40750935
>isreal
one from blue homo and the other from discount vesper