/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40673622
We had three thread on this tweet already.

Gura BTFO

>>40673622
Goombas don't look

>>40673683
I missed the other ones, we should have one for each timezone

Spending the night with her face buried in Marine's ass rekindled her love for vtubing.

The follow-up tweet is more damning
>So grateful to be among so many creative people and them being so kind to me.
Suggesting that EN isn't normally kind to her, so she's not used to it

>>40673897

>>40673622
Tell em how it is Kiara

>>40673622
Holostars are senpai too

>>40673622
How did this whore become the most powerful member of HoloEN? What went wrong?

>>40675082
Ex-idol who loves the foundation of what Hololive was supposed to be.

>>40675082
>How did girl with no EN relevance convince people she was the most popular with some random tweets that were taken out of context?
ftfy

I always knew it. She is the one that was always bullied and left out in collabs.

based her genmates deserve to be called out.

>>40673622
The JPs are really special on that part. They really appreciate their jobs.

This is her literally just being polite to her senpais, you mega schizoids. You freaks are worse than gossipy old women.

Her values align more with JP culture than with contemporary Western culture. If she can put her past difficulties with Japan to the side, she'd be more appreciated and prob. more happy living and working there.
Also she'll be ready to be accepted into HoloJP when they inevitably fire all EN whores and homos, or sell them to Vshojo or something.

>>40677671
I don’t believe she meant that with malice, but it’s fun to think about and also a way I can shitpost about lazy members, you should laugh more

>>40677670
>Marine
>Aqua
>Ayame
>Shion
>Laplus
>"They really appreciate their jobs"

>>40680223
Wait why include Marine?

>>40681490
Because she doesn't appreciate her job? Just look at her stream hours.

>>40681490
She works smarter not harder.

>>40673622
Is three times deletion not enough retard

>>40673622
Big if true.

>>40677966
>I don’t believe she meant that with malice
its har to say isnt it. She is enough of retard to have said it without malice but she is also enough of a jealous bitch to say it with malice. Either way her sreams with Jp have been great. She should domore to btfo the other girls unwatchable collabs of "gura Kawai" "no shion kawai teehee"

covert way of telling other EN mems to start spreading their cheeks if they want to be on her good side

>>40673622
Didn't she spend most of her trip fucking Korone?

>>40673622
based

What a fucking bitch

>>40675082
Nothing went wrong. It all went perfectly fine. Kiara never gave up, never fucked up and continued to grind despite bullshit.

What a social climber this one is.

>>40673622
>Kiara still passive-aggressively attacking Gura because she didn't get her model and missed out on avatar buff.
Some things never change.

>>40681675
>Sana being the highest EN on the chart
There’s something tragicomical about that

>>40673622

>>40673622
You'll still never be JP.

Loving the mental gymnastics to create all of these rrats

Keep it up bois

GURA TUMMY HORT

>>40675082
She just wanted it more.

>>40680223
>>40681579
Marine's voicebox is permanently fucked up from streaming too much and talking like a whore but not having it pay off since no strong Austrian men twice her height have chosen to kidnap her and have their way with her.

>>40673622
>This thread shows who can't read
thanks op

>>40673622
Myth Bad
Council good minus Kronii

>>40685183
She had the comfiest streams. It's just a shame she didn't like streaming.

>>40684982
>Kiara passive-aggressively attacking everyone in her gen because they are all more successful than her without having had to go be a whore in Japan for years
And they never will change

Get a life

>>40682376
Multilingual, multicorpo collab. Kiara, Korone, Pomu, Chigusa. That's my fantasy.

>>40686623
Why is Mio so much larger than Kiara

>>40686739
We don't call her Mio mama for nothing.

>>40675082
>try to become irl idol
>Do your absolute best
>Fail miserably
>Try to become a 2d idol
>Do your absolute best
>Mogged by somebody who doesn't even stream

She's powerful because she puts in effort, but even then ...

>>40685950
It's been confirmed by multiple holos that her streaming voice is her actual voice. Every one was surprised by the fact that she sounded exactly the same in normal conversation outside of streaming, to the point that a group of them had to tell her to shut up at comiket to avoid getting noticed. Her voice box may be fucked up, but it's not from "talking like a whore".

>>40675082
The others did fall off but she also improved her attitude and dropped the annoying chicken voice.

>>40681675
So just like Ayame then?

>>40685950
Marine has literally never streamed too much. Her being a whore is very much the reason for that.

>>40673622
orange woman based?!

>>40687351
She naturally talks like a whore. She was born to be one, but sadly was born in a country without muscular german men.

>>40687351
>>40685950
It was me. I choked her too hard.

>>40687149
Who is Kiara getting mogged by?
If we’re talking about the Idol route(Sponsorships, Orisongs, Live Concerts), the only EN mogging her is Mori.

Gura is a meme that didn’t deliver any of her promises, becoming EN Ayame. The rest of EN aren’t remotely interested in Idol shit.

I hope Kiara remembers to congratulate Ina on hitting 1.5 millions subs during their collab.

>>40687351
Marine absolutely does talk like a whore.

>>40687351
Did you miss the saga when she changed her voice? Sure her voice is real now, but she spent years putting on a fake one that fucked her throat.

>>40675082

Being LITERALLY the only choice never made her powerful, it made her the only option.

She fights for the bottom in everything. She's the bottom of Myth subscription, 2nd lowest CCV behind only Mori and she puts in the absolute most effort to try and change that, but she's just not good.

She's a wannabe idol who failed many times and that's all she's good for as a Cover talent; being a stage presence. She's not a good streamer or entertainer when not on stage, period.

>>40687981
I must have. I don't remember her really using any other voice.

Kiara likes working with professionals. Why so mad?

>>40673622
Only a schizo would spin this into something negative.

>>40675082
HoloEN is comatose, she won by default. It's like winning a Smash tournament because everyone else who entered got busted for cheese pizza possession

>>40688906
No, she outplayed them by understanding idol culture while gradually improving as a streamer.

>>40688095
Can't find anything else so you get otakmori:
https://youtu.be/3e6GYBEyxmI

>>40687981
You sound like a threadreader because that literally never happened.

>>40689275
It did and you're a newfag. See >>40689256.

>>40689382
>Otakmori
She didn't even change her voice.

>>40677671
This is you unable to understand english properly. If you experience something and then start saying it "motivated me again" that is directly saying she was lacking motivation.
This is unintentional on Kiara's part but she has just confirmed half the rrats about how bad the behind the scenes with en is are true. both dealing with shit management and dealing with unmotivated dull coworkers.

I would advise anybody holding out hope for en3 to drop it and move on after this. management is clearly filled with middle-manager from hell types and any new recruits are either going to be here purely for the easy money or will instantly hate their work place and start min-maxing their time-income ratio like council has.

>>40689617
t.megaschizo

>>40687149
Kiara:
>buried face-first in Marine's gash
Gura:
>rotting behind a Philadelphia dumpster, OD'd on fentanyl
Slow and steady won the race.

>>40689498
It's right there, it's just a very small change since she was just pitching up slightly as opposed to putting on some cartoon voice. Turns out however she was doing it was really hard on her throat, which is funny considering how minor the change is.

>>40684982
>>40686332
>>40687149
>>40688025
Chumbies SEETHE

>>40689498
Listen better.

>>40689909
>>40690519
Yeah she totally changed her voice which had exactly zero effect on how much she can stream and how she sounds lile.

>>40680223
>Marine
She love her job but she has toast problem
>Aqua
She has too many antis.
>Ayame
She just gave birth her child unironically.
>Shion
Kiryu Coco saved her but she has legal thing to deal with.
>Laplus
OK, You win
>"They really appreciate their jobs"

>>40689717
Fine I'll dumb it down for you. she made a freudian slip. Any halfwit can see that.

>>40690940
>Keeps falling for it
Bro stop, KFP literally call any dissenting or differing opinion "schizo" or "egg"

are you sure this is about gura and not [RANDOM NIJISANJI MEMBER]?

>>40691133
>nooooooo why are the chickens being so mean to me
kek, every time

>>40691226
The only Niji girl Kiara cares about is Pomu, and Pomu is not someone you want to accuse of not being a hard worker

>>40691133
Not that much different from Baefags.

Reminder :
All these 'KFP' you see in the catalog are all falseflaggers. This board used to be painted orange for a long time and these days those fuckers can't do that anymore, so this is their way of trying to accrue more haters towards her.They will use her to falseflag on her own genmates, councilrys, holostars and even jp members.

>>40691376
HoloEN fans as a whole, despite stating how much they hate the SJW lefty tactics, employ them almost religiously in any argument
>LIES LIES LIES, YOU'RE LYING
>SCHIZO TAKE MEDS
>IM GONNA KEEP RESPONDING THE SAME WAY DESPITE ANY INFO OR DATA YOU PULL
Hell, some Teamates tried to swear Ame's famous "i'm not gura's +1" speech never happened because they had mass reported the clipchannels that hosted it, thankfullly an anon saved it somewhere as a webm and they then shifted tactics to "Well ahkshuallee, what she MEANT TO SAY"

>>40673622
Holy shit

>>40691733
People call you schizo because you type paragraphs over a tweet that happened hours ago. That’s it.

>>40691733
May I respectfully ask for a link to this webm?

>>40691805

>>40691640

>>40673622
BASED

>>40675082
she just did her job and streamed

>>40691733
>Posts lies
>Posts schizo rrats
>Refuses to just let it go
>Argues extensively on 4chan over Twitter posts

Why would they say any of that?

>>40675082
>Most powerful
Kek

>>40675082
KFP fags really are worse than cuckbeats. You faggots are so transparent you might as well be invisible.

You nignogs make these threads every hour and really think no one sees you're coping over some whore of an oshi who's only relevant because she's collabing with people far more important and talented then herself.

>>40673622
Gura....

>>40692922
>she's collabing with people far more important and talented then herself.
Such as?

>>40692922
>>40692811

>>40691640

>>40673622
>SHOTS FIRED
Only if you're schizo enough

>>40691640
There is nothing to falseflag here.

>>40688025
>She fights for the bottom in everything.
Really?

- Top3 SC for EN for months;
- Music performs considerably well;
- Despite being the runt of her gen, shes the one who gets the most sponsors;

I dont know, anon. Maybe, just maybe, CCV isnt the only important thing, you know?

>>40688025
I can feel the chumbud rage radiating from this post

>>40675082
She's actually trying to stream somewhat regularly and behave like an idol.
Literally no one else in Myth can say the same.

>>40673622
HoloEN in shambles

>>40691733
That's just general rhetorical tactics. It's not conviently only the people you disagree with that are underhanded.

>>40675082
Kiara is the type of person who would see her gen mates absence as an opportunity for her to grow her channel. Her narcissistic personality needs constant affirmation that she is better than her peers and she'll absolutely take every opportunity to passive-aggressively take jabs at them.

>>40675082
It's called 'work'. When you put in effort, you get results.
Neets recoil at the very thought of this.

>>40675082
She's the only EN with good manager

>>40673622
Kiara is based?

>>40680223
Do not talk shit about Shion, you insignificant cockroach.

>>40673622
Meds

>>40686252
>It's just a shame she didn't like streaming.
She just doesn't have the proper games to stream.

>>40681675
>streamer streams less the more you superchat

This seems like a slippery slope.
Is 47 super/minute the point where they full on graduate then?

>>40685644
>Person mentions how passionate and hard working another part of the company is while her own colleagues are doing the absolute bare minimum
Yeah you really gotta snap a vertebrae to see the connection there

>>40700430
>Trying to defend Sanigger of all people, a literal grifter who faked injury to not hates to stream
Do cumsharts really...

>>40688025
>MUH CCV! MUH SUBS!
Lel.

Really inspired and motivated me again

En is a Dumpster fire

>>40675082
Despite being a bit of a cunt in terms of personality, sadly she is the only one who genuinely respects the core values of the company that she thought that she'd joined.
I can't watch her because her voice and personality completely filter me but I respect her for actually liking and respecting her job and for acting like she cares

>>40673622
Why is Kiara always like this? It's the reason the other EN's hate her.

>>40702038
>sadly she is the only one who genuinely respects the core values of the company that she thought that she'd joined.
True, I'm glad we have Kiara to defend the spirit of Hololive from whores like Fubuki, Sora, Suisei etc. who are out there collabing with males

>>40702414
Nothing wrong with performing with different people, anon. They all work for a male anyways

>>40675082
She's the only one in HoloEN that cares about Hololive.

>>40702332
Good, EN is a dumpsterfire and homo lovers.

>>40702457
Maybe but those jap whores even do regular collab streams with Holostars, show up in Holostars chats, join Holostars totsus, Kiara would never do that because she is a true idol and the soul of all of Hololive. Thank you based Kiara!

>>40702038
agreed she actually gave us the teehee cute shit in off collabs that we will never see with any other EN and JP, the koro and kiara collab is kino overdose. one of the best streams ive seen in a long ass time.

Still no one watches her

>>40703735
I do.

>>40703735
on her own sure but at least she gave the ppl what they want with off collabs with JP, i dont even fuck with kiara, but she does know what the ppl want.

You guys certainly care about Kiara based on how well her recent covers are doing and those RPG streams that do 4k live viewers on a good day. How about put your money where your mouth is instead of using others for your shitpost.

>>40697353
- The same bunch of KFP paypigs that she's terrified of losing
- Some KFP play her songs on a loop all day to boost numbers (which she asks them to do)
- She takes any sponsored turd offered because she's a sellout desperate for money
Not really the picture of success you're trying to paint

>>40703942

semen has healing properties, i will fix marine's voice

>>40703942
Holy mother of copes

>>40703942
So I checked her channel and some of her songs are performing very badly (Cinderella, Animal, Fever Night and recent two covers) while others are really successful compared to these though ?
So I am guessing you are an anti that lies and wants to paint her in a bad light especially by looking at your choice of words.

As an outsider, It is so hard to gauge Kiara's actual criticisms because her critics spam multiple bait threads in the catalog which are mostly trivial and you can sense the pure vitriol and personal vendetta from the people debating against her which eventually leads to posting past life stuffs and outright insults.

>>40703942
Kiara antis are genuinely the saddest people on /vt/ and that's saying a lot

>>40700308
Where are her streams if she appreciates her job? Why is she playing valorant every day with some guy?

>>40704566
Prefacing this with credentials
>Watch all VoDs of Kiara
>Catch her when I can live
>Buy all merch
>Rarely superchat
>Member'd for a little over 2 years
All that being said, the voice filters people and she can be a bit abrassive at times. Her drive to try and make her fans happy is put nicely in balance with doing what makes her happy and what she joined for, being an idol. She knew of Hololive since at least 2019 and watched Pekora a lot in early 2020 before applying and joining.
People don't like her 'lesbian' schtick because they don't see the average JP Hololiver interact with anyone else and are basing it purely on what happens in the EN sphere and it pisses them off.
As for actual critisims, I'd say Kiara can be a bit hard headed which leads to her pidgeonholing herself occasionally. On top of that, her tomezone excuse can get irritating sometimes. I don't expect her to constantly stay up until 3 or 4am her time to be able to stream with genmates, but she frequently is up until even 5am laying in be watching streams or netflix, so occasionally doing a stream late night wouldn't kill her. She tried many times to reach out to EN for collab streams and has all but given up because they either don't respond or want it to be at a terrible time for her so she stopped asking and is now waiting for others to ask her. With Ame seemingly having no real drive to push for big group stuff, Kiara is the only one left who cares enough to try, re:Holo Advent Calender.
She also sometimes lets out her frustratiins on the backend of the streaming process/conversations she has with genmates and it can come off as a little callous. This one was purely meant as an 'I found my spark again' post but can easily be misconstrued as 'the others in my gen are lazy'. The problem is that because she's often open with her feelings about the back end stuff, you get statements like 'I feel like I can't take a break because you guys (EN fans) won't have anything to watch' coupled with this tweet and it's instant rrat city.
I love Kiara because she's so open, but can easily play a character and banter on stream (via the Marine and Korone streams) and she's always been that way.

Senpais as in they have been doing this job a year or more before she debuted without burning out, and for better or worse the JP mindset in regards to working is definitely different

>>40673622
I know she didn't mean to shit on the other ENs but I hope the other whores (minus Mori and Bae) took it that way so they can start putting effort in what they're doing, especially the shart. Based Kiara, sasuga the Jp of EN

>>40673622
This is why Kiara is the only EN I watch.

t. Jpchad

>>40705583
>'the others in my gen are lazy'
yes they absoulutely are my choice of oshi was the only right one and i celebrate Wawa for thsat she never disappoints me

>>40706054

>>40674018
It should've been me..

>>40675082
in holoEN, you can get a devastating advantage by literally just showing up and clocking in regularly

>>40705583
Thank you anon.
The criticisms you listed here don't even sound like actual flaws. I know this might sound like bait but I feel like the 'transparency', 'lack of collabs in NA time' and 'miscontruing of her words' would never happen if she was in Niji (From the way you described her, she has similar traits/mindset as enna, millie, selen, pomu etc..).
But despite this, Hololive is still the ideal place for her because :
>these traits makes her unique in holo. She would get lost in the shuffle in niji.
>She seems to be eager to do stuff in 3D and Holo is the best place for that.
>She can interact with JP senpais easier in holo and she already were fans of them. I don't think her talkshow would do well in niji.
>The final reason is that despite being the runt, HoloEN needs her for these unique traits.
>I wish it could be easier for her to collab with nijis because I think they could match her energy and enthusiasm but unfortunately due to the rampant tribalism, it will only bring her more hate.

>>40675082
HoloEN must be in a dire situation if Takanashi fucking Kiara is considered the "most powerful."

>>40705583
>can easily be misconstrued as 'the others in my gen are lazy'.
thank god someone finally said it!

>>40708487
people are so indoctrinated they will defend this

>>40705583
This is probably the most constructive comment ever made on /vt/ about anything. Well done.

>>40708390
Now you understand how bad things have gotten lol. But I don't understand why she is the "least popular". If I had to pick the most boring and uninteresting person in myth it would be Ina hands down. I don't understand how Ina is popular at all.

>>40707776
>>I wish it could be easier for her to collab with nijis
I think the Niji collabs are coming back. It’s just bad timing that Kiara went to Japan just as Pomu was coming back.

>>40708966
Ina isn't obnoxious, simple as

>>40687553
>dropped the annoying chicken voice
wait, really?

>>40709104
Some of a character voice is still there, but there's a large difference between a VoD from 2020 and a VoD from 2022. Pull up two random vids and compare it yourself.

>>40709089
Ina doesnt stream

>>40703942
I'm sorry gura hates her fans and wants nothing to do with you people to the extent she just straight up stopped streaming but don't take it out on Kiara.

Gura is out there spending your SC money living the good life. She doesn't need to stream anymore. Move on anon.

>>40709089
Yeah but she's boring as fuck. There's nothing redeeemable about her except her drawing skills. Maybe the artist buff is just too strong

Gura has better memes though

>>40707776
It's not really flaws, but critisisms of choices in the way she streams and interacts with others. If you want flaws, Kiara really does love attention which can be seen as a negative. People will misattribute that to 'MEMEME' in collabs because, again, they don't know what it's like to have members who play off eachother pretty consistantly in EN like the JP side does, but she lavishes in the attention given to her by KFP. It's a double edged sword because it ends up in people like Kakun (known KFP schizo living in Germany/Austria) doing dumb shit irl and cringing up her timeline on any of her accounts, but it's also what makes her so endearing and sincerely open. I would want her to change whatsoever even if I have a few small issues here and there with some of the stuff she says/opinions she holds. She just wouldn't be the same Wawa if I couldn't rip on her shit taste in TV or her idol obsessed brain sometimes.

>>40675082
You’ll become KFP one day. She’s the true idol heroine and everyone else in EN are the twist villains.

>>40705583
finally a reasonable post on this god-forsaken board.

>>40673622
based

>>40688025
>the bottom of Myth subscription, 2nd lowest CCV behind only Mori
She also earns the most in her branch, both from SC and sponsorship. Or do you perhaps think that Pekora is the most valuable JP member even tho she doesn't come close to the earnings that Chloe makes from SC and Suisei from merch? At most she is good with sponsorship since you earn based on how much people watchs you but guess what, there are at least a handful of others who makes the same CCV as her in JP.

>>40705583
So what you’re saying is Kiara meant this tweet to mean “I found my spark again”, not that she’s trying to say her genmates are lazy. But she does think her genmates are lazy, given the “I can’t take a break because you’ll have nothing to watch” tweet.
So Kiara does think her genmates are lazy, she just didn’t mean to express that sentiment with this latest tweet.
Based autistic chicken. Too bad I’m one of the people who is too filtered by the voice to watch…

>>40716055
the “I can’t take a break because you’ll have nothing to watch” feels more like a jab towards the rest of holoEN than OP's pic

>>40718013
Sounds more like she cares about the audience.
It’s the same reasoning as "Council debut is reported for one day, there is no stream today so I’ll organize a guerrilla stream". She just doesn’t like to see an empty schedule whatever the reason.

>>40720892
This never fails to crack me up

>>40674076
She's talked about that before, how reine was the first girl who didn't just start disliking her after they hung out together, heavily implying shit with EN, especially mori

>>40725794
The virgin (false) American whore
VS
The chad Austrian hardcore weeb BVLL(ess)

Honestly though it is pretty telling that her biggest pairings are Reine (weeb SEA heiress) and Pomu (weeb mental patient who did her own version of Kiara's idol arc), as opposed to anybody from her own branch, nevermind gen. The chicken is just built different.

>>40725794
When in the flying fuck did she say that? I feel like I would have remembered that, because I didn't really like Mori much in the past and used to shit on her here given tge topic came up.

>>40673622
It's true

>>40725794
she's just too much of a GigaStacy for them to handle

>>40702332
>lazy whores hate the honest hardworking Austrian girl
>all the actually worthwhile JP senpai love her

>>40705458
You know nothing, child. Stick to your little playground and don't ever mention Shion again.

>>40729091
I think Reine's Bday totsu

>>40674018
understandable.

>>40677671
I see you're new to the Kiara M.O.
Lurk two more years.

>>40673622
Okay but real talk, there's no way she didn't fuck Marine right? I know we all think the same whenever anyone collabs but this is seriously the only time where it is 100% the only possible scenario. It's not even like I'm trying to reach for something I want because I hate this and what it has done to me because it's given me not exactly a cuck fetish but something cuck adjacent, like it's not the thought of having a woman stolen for me that I have started finding appealing because I don't even think of eithier of them that way but more so seeing those two being so blatant about fucking each other in front of me like I'm not even there is something that they have awoken in me. Something about them having sex with each other while I'm not has stirred something in me and I don't like but then me not liking it only fuels that original feeling more.

Alright, which one of you faggots did it?

>this thread
t.KFP Apostle of cringe long name

>>40673622
not impressed

>>40702332
Yeah, what a bitch, wanting to put in effort and please others. That whore.

>Ame gives Kiara a chance to have a concert for her fans when no one else would
>she apparently hates Ame
Huh, do KFP really think so low of Kiara?