/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40545716
That was EN4

>>40545716
After Tempus 3, DON'T WORRY BRO THIS TIME IT WILL WORK

>>40545716
Anon...

>>40545716

There is going to be no Live EN 3 until Myth and Council straighten up their act and actually perform to standards.

30% of your superchats go into holoproductions so they can finance more tempus.

>>40545716
EN3 is Tempus so you got 8 EN3 already.

>>40545716
Unironically... Nowhere. There hasn't been even a hint of EN3 existing.

Go take the indi-pill

>>40545716
Not for another year, they need to give the new homos room to grow.
(grass)

>>40545716
Had their debut like a month ago, anon

>>40545716
If the girls do show up we need to rally. We can't give the Homobeggars the excuse that "all ENvtubing is reclining". We need to fucking tune in to that shit. We need to blow this shit out of the water....as long as they give me a big titty unicorn friendly hag.

>>40546591
I'll never watch the fucking jews, but atleast their management knows what they're doing.

>>40545716
the red one is kinda cute though, can we keep him?

>>40546591
i like yellow one dog impression.

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
HoloFes

>>40547437
Better jews than males.

>>40553296
No.

>>40545716
More like Tempus3 LMAO

>>40545716
HoloproEN quota for 2023 has already been filled so 2024 for StarsEN 3

>>40553475
This is fucking bait but if they don't launch EN3 (or somehow convince the girls to stream again, which will never happen) this year there won't be a HoloEN branch in 2024 because people are fucking off to other things due to no streams.

>>40553644
I’m a /jidf/ regular who loves those girls and shamelessly seethes at tourists who call Yuko a Gura clone or say Juna is Kronii but better, etc (they’re their own selves, not knockoffs of other vtubers).
BUT, I’m not too high on copium to deny that Idol suddenly leaning in on EN isn’t based on seeing HoloEN’s recline and deciding to feast on the blood in the water. It’s so transparent. IdolEN’s members do all the CGDCT shit (including plenty of Minecraft) that HoloEN before it went to shit was known for.
They didn’t even hold auditions, Idol recruited the girls, let them design their own characters, and basically threw money at all the right places. That sounds exactly like the kind of thing you’d do if you saw HoloEN shooting themselves in the foot and wanted to exploit that as soon as possible.

I'm almost 100% sure they should be here within 3 months after StarsEN 2 launched.

>>40545716
you mean EN5? still studying english
cover couldnt find western whores with work ethic so they're going to hire JP talents and teach them english like niji

>>40553644
Why isn't 10 streamers enough to get consistent streams?

>>40555847
Is this a rhetorical question? Because half of them never stream.

>>40545716
They are going to debut 4 more Tempus on June.
Screencap this

>>40556000
If homoEN somehow ends up having more members than HoloEN , they'll need more than a fucking subreddit lockdown to stop people from voicing their discontent because the shitposting will never end.

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
Tempus 1 IS EN3
And Tempus 2 is EN4
And Tempus 3 (auditions already been posted) is EN5
There'll be no more girls anymore. Management looked into their financial report and found out that girls don't make enough money to justify all their expenses.

>>40553296
Nice try shlomo.

>>40557203
Reminder that Gura's dino plushie alone has already made more money than all the homos ever will, even if you add them all together.

>>40545716
You mean tempus3,4,5,6 all this year

>>40557537
unfair comparison. it outsold pretty much everthing

>>40557203
> auditions already been posted
I can’t even tell if this is bait or for real anymore kek

>>40561109
NTA, but that part is true they posted audition reminder like a week or two ago, but they seem to just be open all the time now

>>40561109
more like reminder but still...

>>40545716
EN3? Don't kid yourself. As an insider for cover HR, I can most definitely say we have no plans to release an EN3 or a JP7 until both Gura and Ayame get off their asses and stream.

ID4 is prepped and ready to go though.

>>40561453
Ayame is streaming right now retard.

>>40545716
EN was a mistake just scrap the entire branch

>>40546591
Redpill me on the jews. Should I really invest in them?

>>40561569
They have a Mori lite

>>40561719
Do they have Gura lite?

>>40545716
>not using of the 20th threads about tempus 2
>using pekora to shitpost
>not using your fat incel chuddy face seething with rage

Never post here again.

>>40561873
you sound like the one with rage issues anon. Upset that your homos failed?

>>40545716
I hope Cover keeps pushing for male waves every 3 months so people can wake up and realize they don't give a fuck about you and move on to small corpos.

>>40561873
Now time that without crying, keep seething about your DoA gen2

>>40563508
Based small corpo enjoyer

>>40545716
you won't get shit unicorn, you'll get ID4 instead

>>40563734
they're here to stay at least keep seething :)

>>40563785
3 kaelas please, 1 gamer, 1 singer and 1 artist

>>40563883
But you will get 3 Ollies

>>40563844
With a CCV of 80, yeah.
Causing Cover to keep pumping more of them in a desperate attempt to find the new Vox. (and failing every time as they kill the company more and more)

>>40564896
Here. To. Stay.
Can't do shit and won't do shit.

ID4 is coming. EN3 is scrapped and JP7 is coming after 4th Fes.

>>40563974
god no please

>>40565145
Please stay and please continue staying. Please keep making more homos who will stay forever too. Until they're all you have left.
Can't wait.

>>40565145
Imagine losing to Kiara on your debut day.

>>40561569
Of what I've seen so far.
>Yuko: Gura but streams
>Pochi: Fun, comfy, plays a lot of good games like GTA V, Dark Souls III, etc.

I haven't watched a whole lot of the others.

>>40565569 (Me)
>>40561569
I will also add that Pochi has mentioned wanting to play Fable Anniversary.

>>40565351
Holy kek what a useless homogen they should just kill themselves

>>40546353
That's the dumbest idea ever. EN3 would force Myth and Council to compete for views.

>>40546591
The leprechaun is the exgf of a dude i know

>>40565351
OH NO, SISTERS DON'T LOOK

>>40566080
>ex
DYRBI?

>>40563508
It's Hololive or nothing, simple as that.
Not interested in pretending there is any value in vtubing elsewhere.

>>40566513
yes.

>>40546386
This is the best thing, all this time spent complaining about tempus after they were the ones funding it with their super chats when when of the girls finally decide to stream.

>>40563508
Pippa collabs with males and has a bf

>>40561569
Never invest in Jewery.

>>40567334
yeah, me.

>>40565351
>numberfagging
like clockwork, still can't do shit though what's next you gonna throw me a graph?

>>40567478
No, a furry troon who has been grooming her since she was a teenager.

>>40565351
Orange woman fighting the homos off with her bare hands

So what's the point of this thread? Are you all here just to seethe or what?

>>40567575
>No, a furry troon
Yeah, him >>40567478

>>40567787
Here to laugh at tempiss sisters.

>>40567921
clearly it isn't working you're just going on another heated debate again. This cycle will never end...

EN3 isn't coming.
The girls will become even lazier.
The Japanese don't care about you since you don't buy merch or concert tickets.
They will probably debut another Homo gen by end of year since they actually have people to hire for it.
HoloEN will thankfully die soon once all the girls graduate in a year or two.

>>40567718
>with her bare hands
35k of those 38k are from marine

>>40570129
she did touch marine with her bare hands.

>>40545716
only when HoloEN gets new management, so never

>>40545716
No one knows

>>40554184
>let them design their own characters
This is pretty based. I wish other corpos would try this too. Getting kinda tired of always getting some random FGO artists' shit shoved infront of me.

>>40546591
I'm still mad that we lost HER3.0 because of these fags

>>40545716
I don't know who approved of this, HoloEN management has to KNOW everyone really wants HoloEN3, there's still some good indies left but fucking EN management decides to release another male gen cause ??? literally all those small who corpos are only getting viewers cause HoloEN is taking too long to release a new female generation. The actions EN management have taken have been damaging to their business and fanbase

>>40565145
>Here. To. Stay.
>Here. To. Stay.

If you press the windows key+period key you can type like you normally do.

>>40561719
yeah but she can be changed, unlike mori she doesn,t have an army of troons to defend everything she does, any real backlash and i guarentee she will cut that shit out

>>40545716
Maybe after Tempus 3, and then Omega VSINGER debut.

>>40565145
If you need to convince yourself of something, you can do it alone anon, repeating nonsence to us won't help you.

>>40561753
…Anon, /jidf/ was hit with tourists during Yuko’s monetization karaoke because they wouldn’t shut the fuck up about the “Gura clone”. Does that answer your question?

>>40566619
There isn’t any value in EN vtubing them. Is today really the day you want to say “It’s Hololive or nothing”? Seriously, dude

>>40545716
All I can say is cover is ignoring good and unique applicants, don't expect good chuubas coming out of next gen.

>>40567539
>please stop using the only available metric to verify success, it's unfair
Yeah I love that cope.

>>40575837
Hololive would have unironically held back her content. Half of the things that make her so entertaining just wouldnt fly with holos anal management.

>>40553296
Based.

>>40545716
>Seething less than 12 hours post-debut
please continue seething, unicuck tears are delicious.

>>40565351
>kfp
>numbernig
like fucking clockwork

>>40584162
Can't wait for her to play Little Witch Nobeta.

>>40583176
What's the thing you niggers say?
Oh yeah.
>Quality over Quantity

>>40565840
the only way to force them to stream is to stop monthly salary and give them less share from merch or shill stream if they stream under the bare minimum

>Ina's return peaked at 35k+
EN3 had a real chance of getting 100k, but they opted for going with the barely 30k debut faggots instead. Good job.

>>40545716
Why are you so inflammatory? Are you taking their debut personally?

>>40593075
>Cover wasting time and money on content they don't give a shit about and will never watch instead of the content they do like
Why shouldn't they be?

>>40593195
Because wasting time seething over something that barely effects you is sad. Just ignore them if it's true you "don't give a shit" and "will never watch" them.

>>40593473
>You said you don't care about it so therefore you don't get to complain about what (insert company here) is doing>!!!
Yeah, no.

>>40593614
>if i strawman then that means I win

>>40546353
>Live EN
Tempus sister don't make it obvious

>>40593614
Do whatever you want, doesn't change the fact it's a sad way to spend your life.
Reminds me of those partisans constantly bitching and moaning about the "enemy" political side.
Just sad in my opinion.

>>40593614
you sound pathetic dude

>>40594395
More pathetic than trying to shield a poor defenceless multi-million dollar corporation from criticism?

>>40594666
Then criticize the girls as well if you would like to criticize Cover. Go on, I'm listening. You've got the stage.

>>40546591
>boring generic Korean
>cute
>slut with bf
>cute
>mori wannabe and holostars fan

>>40553296
Isnt one of the jews lusting after males Though?

>>40594975
Besides their chronic lack of streams? I would also add that their game choices are pretty mediocre (no true GAMERS among them besides Ame) but that is partially a permissions issue relating to management once again.

>>40545716
spicbros we won jodanse putos unicornios!!!

>>40594395
nothing is more pathetic than the tempus defense force

>>40579387
Yes. Hololive or nothing.

>>40545716
In the works

>>40561569
Of course! What could go wrong?

>>40594973
Juna is not boring, not everyone has to be Yuko's level of hyper.
I love how happy and cute she is at all times,it makes the unhinged personality that sometimes seeps through much more entertaining.

>>40565351
You mean Marine and it took Kiara that to get a fraction of Flayon's total debut power

>>40596488
You're one of those fags that kept saying that Vesper would be mogging all of EN aren't you?
Red fag will have trouble getting 1K a month from now.

>>40553296
tell that to the tranny you hired

>>40545716
every time you niggers ask for more EN girls four more tempus boys get hired. Friendly reminder they advertised stars EN auditions in December, around the time vanguard was already selected.

>>40597509
Seethe faggot

>>40595582
They are too good for HoloEN.

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
June 2024

>>40545716
EN 3 was Tempus 1, bro.

I think I hate vtubers now

>>40600139
Watch Tempus, give them a chance

>>40600248
Fuck Tempus and fuck you

>>40545716
hold your horses
yagoo needs to release tempus 3 to 11 before EN3 comes out

>>40584162
>oh boy I can't wait to watch another few hours of "FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK PISSSS" with some loud incoherent screaming in between

>>40601948
This but unironically.

>>40601948
>Moooom the cartoon girl said a bad woooord :(

No

>>40601948
she panders to her audience(4chan) and it's worked well for her so far

>>40545716
2026

Where is EN3?

We need to accept that all future gens will be mixed gender.

>>40611095
it's right here on the tip of this penis

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
Why must you mock them peko?

>>40565840
What the fuck are you smoking? Management, their own genmates, kohai and senpai can't force them to stream even casually. Nothing could ever force them to stream competetively.

>>40546591
I've never even seen or heard anything about the tall electric type. Must be boring.

>>40602079
Correction needed.

>>40606064
Did it? I thought this was the biggest webstie in the world an runs the darkweb, even the MSM is afraid of us ! She could easily surpass Gura and Poopoopie with based 4chan !

>coco
>sana
>gura
>ina
>mori
>kronii
But sure, blame Tempus. You will get 100 new Stars before you see EN3, they are smart in taking their time with it because somehow almost 50% of all the women they hire are some yab factories.

>>40554184
Okay letting the talents have control over their models is pretty fucking cool, although it's easy to assume the company laid down some limits about what they couldn't and shouldn't do for business purposes. I'd like to get a peak at the cutting room floor for their model designs though; to see what got kept, changed, or flat-out denied/removed in the process.

>>40565351
>Imagine losing to Kiara
This. I cant believe Ina lost despite it being her big comeback stream.

>>40565351
This was on Marine's channel. Stop baiting with my oshi.

t. KFP

>>40545716
Until you embrace the boys Yagoo will keep debuting more. Yagoo hates unicorns

>>40595215
>no true GAMERS among them besides Ame
Ame is fucking terrible. She has zero patience for games. Ina and Kiara are both much better as gamers than Ame.

>>40546176
>DON'T WORRY BRO THIS TIME IT WILL WORK
kek

>>40627588
If he truly hated unicorns he would force all Hololive members to acknowledge and shill Holostars years ago.

>>40554184
This will only be more apparent if the jew is already planning for a new gen. Any vtuber company should be looking at what happened with HoloEN last week and quickly move to grab more girls because it's extremely likely Cover doesn't have an EN3 ready. Anycolor already jumped on it announcing new auditions and Phase Connect opened them some time ago, so be ready for more auditions announcements in the next couple of days coming from EN agencies.

>>40545716
I thought you liked the EN girls, why are you so eager to drop them and watch new ones? Was all that oshi talk just a larp?

>>40632808
Why do you mouth breathers keep pushing the idea that people only want an EN3 to drop the current ones? Wouldn't that argument be valid for Tempus 2 as well?

>>40601948
you really have to be a special kind of soulless mouth-breather to enjoy that kind of "entertainment"

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
Holofes, they will debut the same time as ID4

>>40546386
No shit

>>40545716
neat

>>40546176
I hope so.there's still like 4 good male vtubers out there that could make up a new wave

Right here, anon

>>40579387
NTA, but yes.

>>40545716
Hopefully they take out the trash on their way out.

>>40545716
Lol, lmao.
>We don't spam like Nijisanji, so better wait 6 more months at MINIMUM so you can have your 50/50 cointoss again at either getting your girls or even more faggots!

>>40650980
I'd bet on more faggots after 6 months. I'll stay hopeful once they put out some reminder that their auditions for hololive is still up.

>>40650980
I can already imagine stars releasing tempoop part 3 months down the line, and a week later, niji announces their male gamer wave to be coming out as well. kek the latter has novelty buff already and being fags in niji, so another batch of dead on arrival homos for holopro.

>>40596809
>uses comparison where more than half of them are video premieres
lol
lmao

I believe many of the small corpo hires, particularly in Phase, Kawaii, and Idol, proved there WAS a pool of female vtubers that aren't whores and have enough of a disdain against male vtubers to refrain from collabing with them. But the keyword here is
>WAS
and they have already been snatched by a corpo, many of them already on the rise and poised to go medium-tier so there's an increasingly shrinking incentive to get poached into Holo.

>>40545716
Support homos, get more homos because they did well
Do not support homos, get more homos because they need the support
Actively refuse the homos, get more homos to own the incels

>>40654587
Not to mention the potential candidates who would disdain males would have already withdrawn their application with the direction HoloEN is going. Maybe someone would be hopefully spiteful enough to join for the sake of being the resistance, but management will be clearly at odds with them and they will most likely be rejected.

>>40655084
With Gura, Fauna, Mumei and IRyS still refusing to even acknowledge Tempus and Kiara maintaining a good distance between them the possible candidates who want nothing with the guys still have some hope in the branch. What's actually more insulting is how Cover acts like the open auditions is only for guys and never talked about them in official channels like they did three times with StarsEN.

>>40654810
>the year is 2024
>Homostars EN now consists of 50 members
>they're all 2views and 3views because the fanbase is so fractured
>EN management thinks to themselves "heh, finally owned the incels"

>>40575855
I think basically EN managers are disgusted by what are essentially regular idol fans and don't see it as an acceptable option to market towards these people. They tell themselves otakus are an irrelevant minority and creep regular people out resulting in less viewers. Their resentment runs to deep to be challanged by evidence. They keep telling themselves that they can attract just as big a viewerbase as twitch, if it weren't for the otakus giving them a bad rep.

I think they won't release another female idol without it having some explicit anti-otaku characteristic, like already having a boyfriend and talking about it in their debut. They'll turn down applicants who know what they are doing. They would never have accepted Gura had she applied today.

>>40659616
What did they expect from a group of streamers using anime avatars like Gura? That people who like to watch XQC or Hasan would be their audience? It's not like she asked for her model to be like that so they don't have anyone but themselves to blame for the fanbase to be like that, not to mention they'll never be able to remove Hololive's core identity even if they wanted, so unless they completely separate HoloEN from the rest of the agency like not even allowing them to perform on HoloFes the idol part will always be with them, tho I won't be surprised if something like that happened in the future.

>>40545716
uhhhhhh

>>40659616
Hololive just caught up to the same mistakes that ruined Gaming, Movies, and Television starting way back in 2017. No wonder the Japanese still use fax machines, they are incapable of learning from the mistakes of others. The 2022 box office is a direct result of the actions taken in 2017 to cater to the woke ideologue demographic. Learn from the past or you are doomed to repeat it.
https://archive.org/download/MisterMetokurCompleteWorks/%5B2017-08-14%5D%20Damore%2C%20Google%2C%20And%20The%20Problem%20In%20Tech.mp4
>Get woke, go broke, as you choke on girldick.

>>40658740
"we may have lost all our money, but think of all this discord and twitter clout"

>>40659616
I can believe this. Them hating their own audience too much to have some humble pie is the best explaination for their behavior. They refused to consider that CGDCT made their brand special in the west and put down the golden goose to own le incels.

I fucking swear /vt/ just has shit takes
Ok lets go over the main problems facing the EN branch of the company. Maybe this time you'll listen.

First: HoloEN is a branch of the main company.
As such everything involving HoloEN is not a priority. It is not Covers core market, it is not their main focus. The company can survive without HoloEN and won't suffer any meaningful dent in its revenue for doing so.

Second: HoloEN has limited monetisation avenues.
The majority of Covers revenue comes from advertising, licensing, guest appearances, etc. These are activities that are heavily focused in Japan as the Japanese mediascape is a lot smaller than the Anglospheres and is used to the idea of anime girls being used for fucking everything.
Go to Japan and you will have a hard time going a day without seeing a hologirl or boy somewhere. Whether it be an advertisement or some random piece of crap emblazoned with their likeness.
This is where Covers money comes from.
But you can't really do these in the Anglosphere. The mediascape is massive and isn't really used to the idea of animated characters being used so heavily. In fact to quite an extent there's been a big push away from animated characters (Yes Disney and Pixar are still things).

So nobody is really willing to pay Cover much for advertising plug or appearances on their show/event.
The best you're gonna get is something like G-Fuel who were offering vtubers a couple of grand to plug them in streams for a few months.
A deal thats not really gonna work for a company like Cover.
That taco bell ad appearance by Gura is basically the best they've ever gotten. A second or so of stock Gura footage in the background of an ad. They probably got paid a few hundred at most for that. If anything.

This overall is the big problem for HoloEN. They're small fish in a big ocean and can't hope to compete with western celebrities and such.

Third: HoloEN is too spread out and has limited access to facilities.
HoloJP has a collection of full 3D body tracking suites and a central location that the majority of the girls are close to. Meaning they can get together and do 3DVR events on a regular basis. So long as they book those rooms ahead of time they're going to be able to do something and benefit considerably in the execution by actually being there together.
For HoloEN this isn't really doable. The majority of the girls are not technically minded and while Ame has been able to tardwrangle the lot of them to each get a reliable (if budget) 3DVR setup going, they're still somewhat limited in what they can actually do due to a lack in terms of specialist support personnel.
Hence why they've mainly focused on VRChat shenanigans, which more than a few of the girls aren't that into and which are fundamentally limited in what they can do due to the nature of the platform they're using.

Fourth: HoloEN management are incompetent.
You know it. I know it. The whole world knows it. All these problems are compounded by the generally low quality of the management team in HoloEN. By all accounts they seem to be the window tribe of Cover, meaning those employees that the company wants to fire but can't due to the realities of Japanese corporate culture and employment law. So they dump them in a do nothing or low priority job hoping they'll quit.
Their perms guy vanishes for days at a time and the rest of the management team seem to spend as much time as they can finding reasons to shut down any projects the girls get started on their own initiative. They're conservative in their strategy meaning they prefer to focus on what has already been done rather than trying anything new. This is probably what got them consigned to the window tribe in the first place.

HoloEN is not very profitable, it's not a priority for the company, it's not important to the company, it could shut down tomorrow and management would just shrug and go "oh well." they've done it before remember HoloChina?
They only care about the Japanese market. They only need the Japanese market. You are not important to Cover and not a major factor in their balance sheet.

This is gonna continue in another post.

>>40666636

So anyways. Moving onto Why FUCKING MALES?
Simple really. Expand into a new market, expand the viewerbase .
Cover had no presence in English language male vtubing. So StarsEN was inevitable.
So they had a choice. LiveEN3 who would fundamentally bring nothing new to the table and unlike the JP girls there's no greater market for them to keep expanding into. The tiny market in the west is already saturated and it was never one that Cover was going to do well in anyways as their business plan just doesn't work outside of Japan.
If you're not going to watch Myth or Council then how would LiveEN3 who will fundamentally be the same as them, be the ones to draw you in?
You can't do much other than pull revenue from your cut of superchats, memberships and merch.
So what do?
Expand into a new market. This is what Tempus was. Covers initial steps into territory they had no presence in. Meaning any gains would be pure gains. Well aside from unicorn seething induced losses, but the overall thinking was that the market expansion would beat those losses.
Based on the outcome and the rapid debut of StarsEN2? They got good results (in their eyes) from Tempus.

Another likely reason StarsEN2 debuted so quick is actually the unicorns. Their whining, screaming, pissing and howling caught managements attention.
Hence you've seen them reducing their interactions with the EN girls, especially those with a heavy unicorn marketshare.
But just having the four boys on their own with basically nobody to interact with within Holo, and no StarsJP don't count due to language barriers. That doesn't work. So they debut'd a new gen quickly to build up the StarsEN ecosystem of vtubers. Now you got room for collabs and variety in those collabs.
So yeah. Unicorns. You are the reason StarsEN2 exists. And if you keep malding like this then you're gonna make StarsEN3 happen before LiveEN3.

~~~~~~~
tl;dr: Read bitch read. You are the reason StarsEN2 happened.

>>40666227
All it took was one woke SJW getting access to a member of EN to ruin the entire branch. Then it spread like a plague to the weakest minds.
https://streamable.com/zx0e7k

>>40666715
>>40666636

>>40666227

>>40666872
This is what Cover wants.
This is Yagoos dream.
HoloEN can not give Yagoo his dream and so they are left in the gutter where they belong.

>>40666227
This is all they do. They can’t create so they hijack every popular fanbases and wear the hollowed out husk like a skinsuit. It’s the r*ddit effect.
https://ia902504.us.archive.org/0/items/MisterMetokurCompleteWorks/%5B2018-06-17%5D%20LGBSCP.mp4

>>40666715
Im fine with tempus 2 if that means they won't be pushing for collabs again. But i really doubt that that was the reason. They already had them in the making and did not scrap them despite tempus 1 not being a success.

>>40666636
>>40666715
tl;dr: males are shit and nobody wants them

>>40667403
Tempus 1 has been a roaring success anon.
They have completely obliterated the expectations of management and are dunking on StarsJP.
Remember their expectations were not on par with LiveEN, they understand that drooling simps lusting after a crumb of pussy are always going to be a lot more profitable than any other audience.

Tempus exceeded the expectations and are a lot more profitable than anticipated.

>>40667544
All of this does not factor in the damage tempus has done to myth and counci, the potential gains from en3 and the loss by not doing anything new the main audience has an interest in. If the market is supposedly this saturated why are other companys hiring?

>>40667927
Because other companies are desperate to get a slice of the pie.
They're still not pulling in the same numbers as HoloEN or the same kind of revenue. These other companies also have very different hiring models like the Niiji automatic shotgun.

>>40667544
they arent competing with stars JP, they're competing with NijiEN and they're failing, they destroyed their already successful operation to try and emulate NijiEN and failed at it

>>40546176
>DON'T WORRY BRO THIS TIME IT WILL WORK
of course it will. I will be the headliner this time.

Don’t feed the r*dditroon the (you)s it so desperately craves. Just ignore them until they 41% themselves. What kind of faggot would seethe that much, begging for attention? Go the fuck back you delusional faggot, YWNBAW kys.

>>40667544
kys Homobeggar they are all pathetic flops and you will never be a woman.

>>40666715
>LiveEN3

>>40566080
They broke up because he could not shut the fuck up about it didn't he?

>>40668143
Yeah, tempus is hardly a success compared to nijis. You can't tell me with a straight face that fishing for pennies with male chuubas in le new markets is worth it over keeping their company CGDCT and trying for another gura that actually streams.

>>40547437
Do you rather keep being force feed males or just enjoy cute girls doing cute things?

>>40545716
soon

>>40666715
Why did you even randomly bring unicorns causes the boys to not being able to collab (roru) and the release of tempus2 (RUMAO) when there is that tempus1 with mori and kronii collab later? Its not going to be the last of holoEN collabing with tempus for sure and you will see holoEN collabing with tempus2 too once the ban is lifted.
Unicorns truly living rent free in homobeggars head makes the shitshow more fun to watch

>>40668008
Of course they aren't, they don't have the same brand power. But the fact remains that they're drying the well of good vtubers.

>>40673699
Realistically you don't need good. You just need cute voices and tolerable personalities.
Simps will make up for the rest.

>>40668008
I'd agree that HoloEN still has the numbers when it comes to viewers. But revenue, nah holopro en isn't getting as much as you think last year as they had fewer sponsors and convention appearances and they also don't have luxiem fags with them whose pulling in a ton of chink money. Doesn't help that a ton of sponsors have links to china, so they're bound to settle for the second-rate vtuber corpo. At this point it's more like holoen is desperate to get a slice of pie from niji's fujo market, which ain't happening at this point. Should've just focused on the girls and leave those homos to rot.

>>40676070
On that front Hololive could benefit from the global decoupling from China.
But then this is just another reason to focus on the Japanese market for them.

>>40676070
Cover is also doing fuck all to promote HoloEN. 2022 was barren with any kind of push for the branch outside of Mori, with IRyS redesign taking almost an entire year, Gura's live being cut insanely short and nothing being done to bring all of the Myth girls to Japan for a 3D showcase like it was done with ID, not to mention the whole auditions bullshit of them never ever reminding people that they were also looking for new girls. Now with them going full ACCELERATE with StarsEN it really feels like they just abandoned what was supposed the main branch.

>>40545716
There will be no EN3.
Cover focusing on ID/Tempus, they realized western chuubas are lazy and hard to work with.

Most of the prospects brown /Here/, they won’t sign up to this company for any reason. Fanbase are borderline retarded toxic schizos.

>>40681064
Oh hey, it's the /vt/ retard with the generic argument no.1043. Also Tempus is also western, anonchama.

Finally sat down to watch their debut streams.
That Flayon kid must have spent a lot of cash on his assets. I mean little nigga had an animated short. That on its own will have cost a pretty penny.
And Cover makes its talents pay for most of their own assets.

>>40545716
It's cute that you think a new girl's gen won't also be dead on arrival.

>>40565840
And a tempus3 would have Tempus1 and Tempus2 compete for views. So what's your point?

>>40683208
Nigga ID3 had 60k debuts and have higher numbers than homos their second streams.
Kiara had gigher numbers than homo debuts this week
Any homobeggar that thinks EN3 debuts won't reach insane numbers and that they'll do fine for at least the first 6 months is fucking delusional. The homobeggar crowd got bored of them already.

>>40565351
Oh no a stream with a JP member and not just any JP member a Marine stream mostly IN JAPANESE got a few more views than an EN Male stream!

>Not the flex you think it is.

>>40545716
Are the Unincels still that butt-thumped over Tempus2 beating the girls to a new gen?

Seethe more cucks! It only makes Tempus more powerful!

>>40683560
Cope

>>40565840
If you can’t motivate them to stream, more competition is a solution rather than a problem. They stream or the lose share to the newcomers. If not, then the will lose share to outside competitors anyway as they don’t have a monopoly.

>>40681279
>No Rebuttal

I accept your concession.

>>40683722
>>40683906
>>40684009
Cope. Nobody wants homos.

>>40683906
The existing holoen fanbase seething does not, in fact, make them more powerful. Making the majority of your customers angry is actually quite retarded.

>>40683208
They would 100% be more popular than anyone from StarsEN.

>>40684052
You're the one who contradict your own dumb argument in the same post.

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
not ready for some reason

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
Holofes

>>40681064
>Fanbase are borderline retarded toxic schizos.
they are merely the pissbrew end product of a fermenting holoEN. bad branch direction begets bad fanbase

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
In everyone's hopes and dreams

>>40696258
Yeah. Let's hope while watching the small corpos.

EN3 is coming and it will be mixed. 4 boys and 2 girls. Balances out the gender ratio into 12-12.

>>40698776
>Each of the girls in the gen gets double teamed by homos
Pretty good balance

>>40698776
Great idea. Cover already shot both of their feet, the only thing left is shooting themselves in the head.

>>40698776
Considering how well Holo's version of Luxiem is going relative to the original then their version of iLuna are going to be literal 2views.

>>40698776
If they want to lose the last amount of good will they barely have then yeah, that sounds like a great idea. And after that why not force the Stars into HoloFes as well? Link the Minecraft servers too. Make the MK tournament a corporate event and force the guys to join too. Just turn Hololive into a bargain bin Nijisanji, with all of the girls who wanted to stay in their lane being forced into co-ed collabs or risk contract termination. It'll work wonders and will send Cover straight back to 2018 when they were way smaller than Phase Connect or Idol.

>>40545716
never, youre getting 20 more tempus

>>40691969
As much as I'm putting my hopes that there'll be an announcement there it feels like Cover is retarded enough to not want to push a new EN gen "so soon" after Tempus Part 2.

>>40545716
You still think we're getting it?

>>40546176
>They never expect the 8th Tempus wave
- YAGOO, Art of Homo

I'm applying for Tempus 3 and you can't stop me!

>>40545716
You're late, just debuted a few days ago

>>40705936
K. Where's HoloLIVE EN3?

>>40707575
They just got announced you dumb fuck

>>40545716
You mean EN5, right?

>>40708279
HoloLIVE, anon, not HoloSTARS. Where's HoloLIVE EN3?

>>40709385
Yeah they just got announced.
Go to the hololive english youtube channel bruh. Hololive Cybers trailer is already up.
They've gone with a cyberpunk aesthetic this time.

>>40709962
Oh yeah, I just checked it out. Damn, didn't think they would move so quickly after Tempus Part 2. Looking forward for their debuts later this week. Now, if you excuse me, I need to take my meds.

>>40710068
Join me in gaslighting the community to the point that Cover has to step in and say there is no Hololive Cyber.

>>40601948
So she is just another /vt/ pandering chuuba?

>>40565351
They’re males. They’re inferior in vtubing. It’s just how it is.

>>40713057
The wait for EN3 is so fucking long that people will end up following the FlaVR meme and create an AI-generated Hololive gen.

>>40565351
Simps bruh. For a sniff of pussy they'll do anything.
Tempus have to lean much more on actual entertainment

>>40713057
That is actually not that bad of an idea

>>40545716
in hell

>>40545716
Remote viewer here, they came to me in a drug addled vision. EN3 will arrive before the fall season of 2023.

>waiting for another wave of women who won't stream
I actually think they learned one thing from Tempus and that's making them interact with each other a lot before debut. People have been waiting for EN3 so long it will be a failure if it's not an extreme success so the best they can do to avoid any failure is to force them to have good chemistry at all costs

>>40720014
>it'll be a failure if it's not an extreme success
Water is wet when liquid. At this point people just want new girls to bring excitement to the branch, not fucking mythical creatures that will revolutionize vtubing as a whole.

>>40720413
It won't be enough if they are just okay or just good, they need to be extremely good and might as well revolutionize vtubing because otherwise people will wonder why they had to wait so long

>>40720495
Then that'll never happen and EN3 will become Cover's Half-Life 3.

>>40545716
In hiding

>>40669196
all of the gen names sound like kingdom hearts characters

>>40545716
EN3 and JP7 will debut at the same time

>>40594973
Leprecubny is a slut?
Disappointing. She had her charm

>>40545716
>Alright now that those garbage dead on arrival fags are done.
theyre not done yet

>>40545716
>Next Announcement: You think it's gonna be EN3? But it's me, starsen3!

>>40732430
I would fucking kneel. I've been having more fun watching stars than those bitches that dont stream.

>>40732463
Yeah.
The OG boys are fun but the new boys are kino as fuck.
The clown? He is fucking perfect.

>>40565145
Kek. This is just like NijiEN back in the day. Zero interest in vtubers, same exact glee at destroying something good. Unfortunately it doesn't look like chink money will save the day again, if >>40565351 is any indication.

>>40684170
B-b-b-b-b Gura doesn't stream!

>>40669400
Nobody is forcing you to watch the males. Your oshi is collabing with males? You can skip it and watch something else for the day.

>>40561719
>>40594973
Who is the supposed "Mori lite" and what has she done to earn that moniker?

>>40732966
>shuts down the entire reddit for homos
>bans overlapping with the homos
>nobody is forcing the homos
you disingenuous fag

>>40732966
It’s impossible for my oshi to collab with males as she would cease to be my oshi immediately if she ever did.

>>40733141
>shuts down the entire reddit for homos
Happens with every new gen. Yes, even with Holostars JP, newfag.
>bans overlapping with the homos
So your oshi isn't streaming at a given time. You get to see her sooner or later. Where is the issue?

>>40554883
>within 3 month
That's 2 1/2 months too many

>>40565840
RUMAO
If council didn't made Myth more competitive neither EN3 will now that the status quo has been pretty much established.

>>40733141
Well if Reddit wasn't full of slobbering, smelly, virgins then they wouldnt need to shut down the sub.

>>40733310
You know you can memory hole the collab, right? It's not like she's gonna be a different person the following stream.

>>40733498
Nope it doesn’t work like that. If they are willing to hurt me by collabing with men any potential endorphin boost to me caeses for all their content and they become an irritant.

>>40733322
the issue is you're a retarded tranny mainly

>>40733754
That's your problem. Sorry to hear about your mental illness though.

>>40733948
I accept your concession.

>>40733322
>So your oshi isn't streaming at a given time. You get to see her sooner or later. Where is the issue?
>you can skip it and watch something else
You're actually retarded

>>40733967
It’s a problem for them if they want my continued financial support and the feeling is quite normal for a heterosexual male without a cuck fetish but I wouldn’t expect a castrato like you to understand.

>>40734141
Explain the problem. I'm waiting.
>>40734188
You're hardly a hit on their income.
>the feeling is quite normal for a heterosexual male without a cuck fetish but I wouldn’t expect a castrato like you to understand.
Not an argument. Try again.

>>40626112
None of the girls got suspended in less than 3 months Anon. None of them took a vacation right after a 2 week suspension during the december they were hired to scream. Hell, none of them took a break at all.

Vesper can't help but speed run being a lazy shit, and homoshills can just hope they won't get called out on it because no one watches him on top of him being a lazy faggot.

>>40734321
no matter how long you wait, you will still be too retarded

>>40734607
See >>40734017

>>40734670
>you can just watch something else
>ban overlapping so you cant watch someone else
>you can just watch them another time
I do not accept your cope

>>40734865
There are hundreds of thousands of vtubers out there. There will always be someone to watch. You aren't mindless corporate drone, are you now?

>>40735088
no, I'm loyal to my oshi you activist whore

>>40735137
Too bad. Suck it up.

>>40734321
le "mental ilness" is not an argument either.

>>40735245
Why would I suck it up when I'm complaining about it being shoved down my throat?

>>40734321
Overcome innate males with an argument? You are a fool.

>>40736172
Innate Male preferences.

>>40735939
It isn't. That was me calling you mentally ill.
>>40736088
I'm not gonna waste my time arguing in circles with you.

I have the mental fortitude to block out the males instead of pointlessly seething on a Mongolian basket-weaving forum. You are weak.

The Coverdrone defense force arrived with dedication, huh?

>>40736373
You show them anon! You're really owning those dummies!

>>40737250
Are the Coverdrones in the room with us right now Anon?

>>40736373
you're weak and passive, too cowardly to resist. Closing your eyes pretending it isnt happening.

>>40632756
IdolEN has their auditions open since the last day of last year so it does really seem like they're accelerating at the opportunity to snatch some talents from Hololive

>>40698776
If this happens, It will be the funniest thing to ever be discussed in the history of this board

>>40553296
weird statement

>>40545716
Hololegends coming 2026

>>40545716
>Cover: No EN3 until summer at the earliest. Thank you for your support!

>>40545716
I dont know if youre going to get it

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
>EN3
KEK

>>40740667
And the jew is more than right in doing that. With Tempus 2 a bunch of the girls who have been trying since the beginning of 2022 are probably starting to give up. Cover is acting like the open auditions is only for guys so other agencies should be as quick as they can to pick the girls who are being ignored by the company who was known for their female idol vtubers.

>>40751957
Who’s actually trying to get into HoloEN right now?
I’ve seen most applicants more interested in the Niji applications.

Maybe they might be able to snag some Aussies or JP expats, but HoloEN audition hype seems to be crickets in the west.

>>40667544
Come on that’s total bullshit and you know it, tempus was not a success and they did not exceed the expectations of cover, they said that to appease investors because tempus is an obvious flop… they were obviously aiming for the same market as NijiEn and we’re probably expecting viewership on par with luxium, but they didn’t get that which is why they they released a new wave so soon, so they could take another shot at it and pretend like the first flop didn’t happen, now they can pretend it was some grand plan even though these new boys obviously appeal to a different demographic then the first four…

>>40545716
>Where's EN3?
Bit the current HoloEN doesnt even stream

>>40752178
It's crickets because the company is doing everything they can to make everyone forget they're even happening. This is a topic that is brought up in every single thread about EN3 but one of the biggest problems of this whole story is how Cover doesn't create any hype for the girls' auditions like they did multiple times for the male side. It's like they really don't want people to send their auditions for HoloLIVE EN.

>>40669374
I agree, Kobo is proof that the market is still primed for more female vtubers, people can’t understand half of what she says and they still eat that shit up, idk why cover is trying to roll the dice on a vox clone when they could roll for another gura (i think they tried with bae based on council’s marketing, but bae saying that she wanted to collab with holostars during her debut killed any chance of that happening, at least kobo waited a bit and gathered those die hard fans before doing stuff with stars… but they’re probably scared to try again because of bae)

>>40545716
What if EN3 comes out and theyre worse than current day Myth and debut Council?

Who would've thought that the jew agency who had literal 1view-2view who talents would be discussed at all in the future, we surely live on a strange timeline

>>40753057
You can thank Cover for that.

>>40753057
I found it strange but interesting at first, rooted for them once I saw all those cute designs, and then was completely surprised at how long they survived for like 6 months despite the extremely low popularity. And then they even go on to launch an EN branch. And then the branch works and has a decent amount of popularity.
In the end I'm just happy for the fact that at least one of the vtuber CEOs these days is smart enough to pay attention to the mistakes of the bigger companies in order to not make them and doesn't give up either. The entire jew thing just makes it funnier.

>>40545716
Soon