/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

I already switched to Phase last year. But nice seeing karma hit Holofags hard.

>>40646927
Males and females are two wings of the same bird, they need to be balanced.

>>40647014
I took the Jew pill last month and I’ve had no regrets so far. Gonna enjoy witnessing cover’s downfall as they continue to try to appease the woke mob.

>>40646927
Jumped ship to small corpos until they get their shit together. EN3 eternally delayed along with no streams last month was just unacceptable.

>>40647201
Don't even. Your views and SCs go to more Tempus projects. Abandon Hololive right now if you haven't. It's completely finished. Even the JPshit (implying people still watch that boring shit).

>>40647096
>he doesn't know

>>40647303
No males?
All I need
Simple as.

>>40646927
Whatever makes the holoshits burn is good news to me.
Whenever they fall everyone else will thrive.

>>40646927
i'm having the time of my life right now thanks yagoo

Nijisanji won.

>>40647578
>>40647627
Exactly. this is the audience Tempus panders to. To go from MYTH to this... Well, if I had any money invested in Cover, I would not be happy.

>>40646927
Thanks yagoo, I would have never found vtubers I actually liked if you hadnt ruined the hololive experience

>>40647668
I hate to admit it, but you may be right.

>>40647668
>kotoka
>meloco
how did omegay fuck up this bad?

>>40647668
Sad but true, although their viewership is tanking as well. It'll be one of Phase, Kawaii, or Idol that moves into the top spot. Question is which one will have it's viral outreach during the year.

>>40647821
>gfe gyaru
>virgin hag
Both mog the fuck out of Irys too. Glad I picked them up after the yab.

>>40647668
>>40647734
nijikek...your samefagging skill...

>>40647668
even small corpos won really makes you think

>>40647876
If I had to bet Id say phase but I think Kawaii could surprise us. Idol feels like its kinda plateaued as far as far as viral outreach, at least until they have an event or something.

>>40648052
Kawaii will get the remaining GFEbros Hololive lost. Idol may get more of a variety as will Phase. I think it's going to be Idol actually. Yuko reached 10K CCV her last stream and has 20K potential if she keeps inclining.

>>40646927
just another set of vtubers to ignore

>>40648215
>Yuko reached 10K CCV
Proof?

>>40646927
They've lost all their goodwill. I'm not a fan of hololive as a whole anymore, but just a fan of a few people who happen to be in hololive.

>>40648463
What's the point when all of them exist to fund more Tempiss projects?

>>40648215
Damn, I must have missed that, if she's getting that big Idol really does have some serious potential

>>40648574
Because I still like them and their streams, and they've mostly steered clear of the cancer. Hololive going to shit hasn't changed that yet.

>>40648215
>Yuko reached 10K CCV

>Source: My Ass

>>40648821
Just watch clips independent of COVER if you still want to show you care then. Until then, don't give anything associated with COVER a dollar. If you're that much of a cuck, just use ARS and/or pirate streams.

>>40646927
Nice headcanon, Unity is going just fine, everyone loves Tempus except this place full of loud minority schizos.

>>40648215
Yuko has never reached 10k you lying faggot.

>>40648215
Why do you shills always just flout numbers? I've never once heard someone talk about a small corpo stream with any sort of qualitative lens like if it was enjoyable, creative, unique, interesting, etc. It's always just "she's inclining! 10000 views! She'll overtake hololive any day now!" I've seen a thousand fucking posts on idol and PC and I still could not tell you a single detail about them.

>>40648052
Idol are already recruiting for an EN gen 2, they seem to be going for the accelerate route. If they can keep momentum somehow I can see them going far.

>>40648215
>Yuko reached 10K CCV
And then you woke up.

>>40648215
least obvious shill

>>40649643
Qualitative metrics are retarded. "Fun, unique, creative" are prescriptive adjectives. You can only analyze overall success with normative statements. Thus, more viewers = success. Less viewers = failure. You can find an oshi who's the funniest, most charming, most wonderful streamer in the world... but if she's only those things to YOU, then she's failed as a chuuba.

>>40649643
There was one time when I begged and begged for a nice chuuba, no matter the numbers, over many posts and finally someone gave me one...

>>40649643
Anon... the catalog is always for meta talk if you want to actually know about the girls go to their generals...
Most people keep their oshis hidden to keep shitposters out of their chats

>>40647668
Don’t suck that dick just yet, Tempiss is so insignificant they have barely damaged the real members of Hololive. No one even knows they exist.

>>40649741
Anons aren't shareholders and investors, they're viewers. I don't care if someone is successful, I want someone who is entertaining. Numberfagging as a means of shilling is fucking retarded.

>>40647668
>Niji went to shit first, that means we won.

>>40649643
the datafication of entertainment has turned the entire industry soulless

>>40649993
Entertaining is subjective. Of course I'm going to tell you my oshi is entertaining, but to you she could be the most boring chuuba you've ever seen. If you genuinely want to know about the chuubas FUCKING WATCH THEM instead of seething about numberfags in the catalog you fucking smooth brain.

>>40646927
It's bizarre to even think there was a time not too long ago where the board would band together during stuff like Myth events and collabs. Now I've dropped the branch except for [hololive talent]. And management could've done literally nothing and I still would've stayed subbed to them all.

>>40649643
Because it's fun when Holofags are playing a losing game and what was the impossible 2 years ago is happening right before your eyes. Even Nijifags will cope hard when Idol and Phase keep getting golds.

>>40649872
I dont even mention my oshi outside of her general for the reason you gave and also I dont want people to think Im shilling her which could also lower her reputation

>>40649906
I don't know how what I said relates to Tempiss. They're fucking flops too.

>>40650085
If you can't come up with a single nice thing to say about your oshi except number high then why would I even bother giving them my time?

>>40650843
>watching chuubas based on /vt/'s opinions
ngmi

>>40650892
I mean if they're gonna come into every thread to shill the least they can do is give me more than fucking numberfaggotry

>>40649906
>holoEN going down the drain slowly due to the existence of Tempiss
Sad, but this seems outdated. Where's the updated one?

>>40649643
>enter meta thread
>complain about meta conversation
man you're retarded. if you want to know about chuubas try any of the many other threads talking about actual chuubas, not random catalog meta threads jfc...

>>40650037
>Jew company comes on the scene
>Cover and Anycolor both shit the bed
>Jew company only grows in popularity
Really gets the noggin joggin.

>>40646927
Vshojo is getting a shitty idol concert and NijiEn is getting their 3D lives before Holo Myth. THINK ABOUT THAT!!! Cover only cares about the homos atm and it’s ducking frustrating

>>40650892
Yes? That's the whole fucking point of watching VTubers? I don't watch whores.

>>40651568
>Vshojo is getting a shitty idol concert and NijiEn is getting their 3D lives before Holo Myth
embarassing

>>40651371
IT'S A JEWISH CONSPIRACY

>>40650892

GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD!

I have downloaded the vt databank and cross referenced them with all chubas of interest. I now hold power over the supreme hivemind and can destroy most every chuba or her paypigs without the need To watch her EVEN ONCE.

The ultimate weapon.

>>40650843
"This movie was funny, eccentric, and incredibly unique! Never seen anything like this before!"
I just described The Truman Show. I also just described The Room. You don't go onto Rotten Tomatoes and check the comments in a review. You go to Rotten Tomatoes and check the total aggregate score. What I find funny, you may not. What I find cute, you may not. High CCV is similar to high ratings. It's not an indicator of quality TO YOU SPECIFICALLY, but an indicator of quality to the general public. Thus, high CCV = more chance that you will enjoy their content. Low CCV = less chance you will enjoy their content. Simple as that.

Coco would have collabbed with men. You would have watched and sucked her off. BEST MEME REWIEW EVER!

>>40651993
CCV isn't at all comparable to review ratings. Xqc gets higher views than like 99% of vtubers and I think he's a fucking moron that scrapes the bottom of the barrel. You can describe a streamer and their qualities without strictly using buzzwords. Numberfags are so genuinely fucking bad at logical thinking it's amazing they can even understand the numbers they fellate each other over.

>>40652137
It is, because CCV indicates how many people will stick around and watch your streams. I watched The Irishman, it has a 90%+ on RT. I think it's absolute dogshit and Sorcese has no idea how to make a film that isn't a gangster flick. That doesn't mean the Irishman is bad, because the majority of audiences enjoyed it. By definition you cannot designate a streamer's qualities without those qualities coming across as either vague or banal. It's much better to judge quality by CCV.

>>40652267
You're either pulling my leg or genuinely retarded.

>>40652137
NTA but that's exactly part of the point. If you asked any of the 100k people watching XQC (also fuck you for being a zoomer and making me talk about that retard) they would tell you he is entertaining. But clearly, you do not find him entertaining.

>>40649906
>Tempus killed Hololive, nijisanji, and vshojo
Damn, they're powerful.

>>40652308
Nope. I'm just capable of making judgements without an unbiased opinion. Sorry if /#/ hurts your feelings, but everything in that thread has evidence to back it up with graphs, statistics, and numbers. What evidence do you have that your oshi is "funny"?

>>40647821
All Xsoleil girls are wonderful. Zaion is literally a talking machinegun.

>>40649906
Median means absolute shit when one side is streaming 10x more.

>>40651371
New NijiEN wave is extremely successful. Only Iluna was meh.

>>40652498
>Zaion is literally a talking machinegun.
if only she streams

>>40652594
Considering most of them are circling 1-2k CCV, with their "star" being 3-4k, and the fact that Vox's ASMRs have utterly collapsed (down to 6k from a peak of 20k), I'd say they've done an extremely successful job of cannibalizing the fanbase. Women aren't loyal. They'll move onto the next shiny plaything the moment it drops.

>>40650037
Nijien hasn't changed how they do things, if you don't enjoy it now you wouldn't have enjoyed it a year ago either, their biggest misstep was when they started the luxiem pandering but luckily it was short lived

>>40652686
Vox's SC numbers are as strong as ever and Hex is making 40k $ a month. Keeping stable 1-2k ccv is good when you stream as much as they do holoEN ccv averages are inflated to all fuck by how little they stream.

>>40652686

>>40652686
>ccv
why do people care about this so much just post scs or membership

>>40652915
If you know a way of getting membership numbers without being the channel owner then please enlighten me.

>>40652686
>Women aren't loyal
who the fuck watch his stream? straight male??

>>40652686
>muh ccv average

Utter cope.

>>40652978
>>40652865
>>40652793
Roasties immediately on the defensive with the SC and Bilibili copes. Lighten up sisters. If you're so comfortable with how your boys are doing, you shouldn't need to come into the thread to defend him. Reeks of desperation.

>>40652974
>If you know a way of getting membership numbers without being the channel owner then please enlighten me.
ask them 4head

>>40652594
Iluna is a total flop. Only thing that's going for them is scarle rakes in a ton of sc cash for nijigirls, and maria and leech zotto have their own schtick with their music/covers. they're basically just there to sit pretty thanks to the numbers they have with their RMs. Lolisex was good though, shitposting aside.

>>40653053
>posting facts is defending

LMAO.

>>40653053
>brought up ccv
>got coiuntered by scs
>backing off
EVERY FUCKING TIME

>>40653080
>Only thing that's going for them is scarle rakes in a ton of sc cash for nijigirls, and maria and leech zotto have their own schtick with their music/covers

So they are doing their job fine?

>>40653110
>I made a statement about their CCVs
>"B-BUT WHAT ABOUT THEIR SCs!!!!"
I thought women were allowed into college in the States. Why haven't you still developed any reading comprehension? You're a strong independent female. Act like it.

>>40646927
Hololive is way funnier with more people

>>40653220
>I made a post about their SCS
>"B-BUT I WAS TALKING ABOUT CCVs
lol

>Thread shitting on Hololive
>Full of Nijisisters
Why am I not surprised

>>40653348
>hololive
since when hololive have males?

>>40653280
Again, be better. Your statement.
"New NijiEN wave is extremely successful. Only Iluna was meh."
Verbatim what you said.
You never specified what "successful means." I corrected you and informed you that, by CCV metrics, they are not successful.
You immediately jump to SC numbers to defend your faggots.
Either define what "successful" is or shut the fuck up. I guess you weren't one of the women that into a STEM major though, so I can't blame you. Hope the gender studies courses help at Starbucks!

>>40653405
Hololive Production covers all their branches retard. At least do some basic research if you clearly don't watch them.

>>40653408
>New NijiEN wave is extremely successful. Only Iluna was meh."
this wasn't me anon cmon....

>>40653173
Yeah aside from half of them (aia, scarle, aster) consistently lingering in 3view territory, they're ok I guess. at least they're staying in their own lanes and managed to have a dedicated fanbase. no major messups in the surface so far either.

>>40653532
i didn't see any "production"

My oshi is a guy from ten years ago before vtubers existed. I’m having a great fucking time watching the antis seethe over nothing

>>40653639
based i like watching unicorns and homobeggar seethe

>>40653408
kek why are you arguing with her when i was the one making the statement

holy astroturfing ITT, Batman

I took basically all of December up until now off from watching vtubers and wow, there are now more of them. I already have more competition for wave 3 damn

>>40653639
>>40653788
Based.

>>40652317
Have you tried coming up with what specifically is good about them? Chuubas that they're like, etc...

>>40653639
>>40653788
>>40654143
What's with all the samefagging?

>Cover really fucked the unityfags
we have unityfags?

>>40653348
>Niji drama draws out the holofags
>Holo drama draws out the nijifags
Unity through watching dumpster fires

>>40647668
Pretty much. They mindbroke Cover so hard that they keep trying to find their own Vox at the expense of everything they've built so far, cause the entire company to fall apart - and it never fucking works.

>>40646927
i took the small corpo pill so i'm alright

Hi niggers, Reminder unicucks deserves the rope, unironically
See you later

>>40647366
Returning to the roots.

holobrony numberfag ccv/superchat/vods whack-a-mole, always a crowd pleaser

Oh nyo?

>>40647081
Why? if you want to have homos be popular thats fine but keep them away from the girls that all im fucking asking, if the boys can't get their own audience, the girls have no obligation to try to boost them and then hurt their own audience because they dont want to watch anymore

>>40649643
Numbers are objective, your dumb "creative, unique, interesting" opinion is not.

>>40651371
Just a (((coincidence))) goy, keep it moving.

Reminder that Vox used to get 10k ccv easily and 20k ccv with buff streams.
>Doing as good as ever in SC
He used to get $160k a fucking month, he is down to 60kish a month and getting beat by HoloJp again. Sisters are so fucking unloyal lmao

>>40659346
Does it not worry you you enable their mental issues by denying them access to interact with their male peers, like a well-adjusted human woman should have? Why do you think God created man and woman?
Of course it doesn't, it was a rheotrical question. You see the girls as objects, nothing more.

>>40659346
Pathetic incel thinks girls are for sex only and not allowed to have friends

>>40653877
That's the game

>>40659623
It's a job. Their job is to entertain lonely males. When they interact with males the lonely males stop watching. I don't see what's so hard to understand. If they want to interact with males no one is stopping them from doing it offstream.

Did you rike it girls? Did you rike how I banned you from streaming? You rike? Good. It is good you rike... because you are now tools. You do what I rike for Holostar. OK. You rike when Holostar fuck your ass. Very good, rike.

>>40659686
parasocial tool thinks friendships can only exist on stream, they could all have been friends off stream and avoided all the drama and had their friendships
why do you think it was essential for them to only be friends on stream? Leeching or to own the chudcels? both?

>>40659493
He only got that much during his early months and the only time holoJP beats him is for special events, he was also the most superchatted vtuber of 2022.
Stop lying about things that are easy to verify.
Hes the king and all your cope and schizo fantasies wont change that.

>>40646927
You faggots have yourselves to blame for creating a schizo community.

>>40659411
why would you watch vtubers over twitch streamers then? xqc and asmongold have better numbers

>>40647081
yes, the male viewers balance it. homos are the third wheel. get a hint, get lost.

>>40659821
The only drama here is from antisocial retards like you telling them what to do. Your oshi will NEVER EVER have sex with you. Boy friends are not a threat

>>40660297
Excuse me? >we created a schizo community you say?... so >we graduated Aloe for shitalking about some niji? >we made Coco graduate for mentioning Taiwan? >we stopped the Vei-Kiara collab because Kiara talked shit about vshojo? >we cockblocked c*nnor because Ollie and Mori talked shit about trash taste?
It seems that you don't understand anonchama, >we didn't commit first blood, >we didn't create the schizo community, >we were merely formed by it

>>40660462
Twitch is for fags

>>40660524
they are a threat because they arent enjoyable nor entertaining, having them on my oshi stream downgrades the whole experience.

I watch male streamers but not those who hide behind avatar and create content for women and trannies.

>>40660524
Oh, we are at this stage of troon cope now. Nice to see.

>>40660841
> avatars are ok when girls do it
> creating content for the opposite sex is ok when girls do it
> same sex tee tee is ok when girls do it

>>40659686
No job allows you to just pal around with your friends all day. What entitlement these people have.

>>40660982
unironically yes

>>40660524
They arent your friends and they never will be, they arent friends with each other either, they're just being used for clout, that's about as close as you people ever get to friendship

>>40660982
>avatars are ok when girls do it
Correct
>creating content for the opposite sex is ok when girls do it
Correct as long as it isn't pornographic
>same sex tee tee is ok when girls do it
Correct

>>40660817
so are vtubers

>>40660982
All these are OK for men too. Just don't force it into my entertainment.

>>40661068
>>40661018
And that’s why you’re incels

>>40661195
if that helps you cope, sure im an incel kek

>>40660524
People that pay you tend to expect a say in how you do your job. Shocking!

>>40660982
> avatars are ok when girls do it
Avatars are cute and girls are meant to be cute. Males not.

> creating content for the opposite sex is ok when girls do it
Yes because I'm male and target audience.

> same sex tee tee is ok when girls do it
I personally couldnt care less about all that.

>>40661231
theyre not on your payroll though?

1/3 of posts in this thread are from 1 IP holy shit. Get a life dude.

>>40661381
They are. Their performance is measured in viewer numbers and incoming money. They need to cater to me or these performance numbers go down. As has been proven by recent developments.

Cover is "corporation" that has investors money involved, those investors want big numbers and they don't care about homo revolution.

simple as

>>40646927
You dummies realize that by giving less money to the girls while the fujos happily keep plunking money down for Tempus who will stream everyday--you will be helping make the case for Yagoo that the EN market prefers males, right?

>>40661609
Where did I say that?

>>40661609
As long as there’s femboys

>>40661609
Tbqh I hope they go all out on males and kill off HoloEN completely.

>>40661609
fujos arent paying shit, EN can cater to males all it wants now, it's already beyond saving and will always be a pimple on the ass of JP's massive success, if not soon forgotten like CN

>>40661688
Me too honestly. The ID girls are more than enough to cover that market and they actually stream. Fire all the girls in HoloEN. Merge Tempus and ID into HoloGlobal. And call it a day. Focus the bulk of your energy into HoloJP where the actual money is.

>>40661705
Fujos are absolutely paying shit. You should see the membership tiers for the boys. And outside of Hololive, some of the biggest earners in EN streaming are men. It's not surprising really because men dominate streaming overall. It was only a matter of time before they made their way to vtubing and took it over as well. Men are generally more entertaining streamers than women--for both men and women viewers.

Where a woman might only get horny incel viewers, a man can get women lusting after him, and dudes who just like the entertainment. It's a much more sane and proven source of income in the west.

>>40661423
Discrodtrannies needs to be shot tbqh

>>40647668
They won the culture war, in the end both are burning

>>40661609
Give it to JP girls. Hololive can see which country the money comes from, and they'll learn the right lesson from it. If US fans prefer JP over EN then EN is doing it wrong and JP is doing it right.

>>40646927
What a gem!

>>40661885
you're comparing apples to oranges, unless you're equating the vtuber audience with the fleshtuber audience

>>40661609
No. The time for carrots is over. The time for sticks has arrived. Give us what we want or continue to hemorrhage the only business in which hololive is a proven success, catering to males.

>>40661885
fujos arent paying anything in hololive and men dont dominate streaming in general because of fujos you weirdo

>>40661568
do larpers honestly think like this and believe they're in control of holo's content? Lmoa

>>40662628
Do entertainers cater to audience?

I mean they better...

>>40662724
why did the idea that cover corp hires were indie youtubers in full control of their content ever enter in your mind?

>>40662301
And from the ashes, a new Hololive will be born. Evolved, but untamed! The weak will be purged and the strongest will thrive - free to live as they see fit, they'll make Hololive great again!

Hololive EN is already doomed. Even if they do EN3 soon it's too little too late. They already lost the confidence of their main fanbase. Just enjoy watching the downfall bros. JP will be fine though as always.

>>40662301
DAY OF THE STICK! DAY OF THE STICK!

>>40663416
They probably could still salvage EN. But they wont.

If I wanted twitch streamers, I'll go and watch real twitch streamers.

>>40663416
They could still transfer the good girls to HoloJP. It would also positively impact their work ethic. Just take a look at how Kiara shines when being in Japan.

>>40661609
And if we keep giving money to the girls we just fund more Tempus. There's no winning.

>>40646927
not my problem

>>40664233
>Just take a look at how Kiara shines when being in Japan.
And Mumei was gushing because she could have actual friends.

>>40646927
is not that bad...

>>40664233
this is the best option but EN management will fight tooth and nail to stop it happening

>>40647668
I was just thinking this today anon, it's unfortunate but you are correct. Niji won and vtubing is ruined

>>40667990
This. Everything big is full of dicks. Why are there so many dicks. I don't want dicks.

>>40667651
Mumei, Fauna, Bae, and Subaru, and Towa formed a tight knit squad.

>>40663416
>doomed
Any new debuting girls will get 50k CCV

Mental ward.. all of you. Seriously this place is giving you some insane amounts of schizophrenia and internet brain rot. Take a break from this place.

>>40646927
>The seethe and the hate are getting ridiculous /here/
FTFY and yeah it's always been like this.

Here come the leddit "normies"... "I am so normal".

>>40653405
Since 2019. But you're a 2020fag aren't you?

>>40668679
>50k CCV
That's really low consider Council had like 90k

>>40660982
Yes, when will you understand men and women are not the same

>>40662049
/vt/ arguing over scraps, absolute comedy

>>40669342
sorry sis, that’s Holostars, a subsidiary of Holopro. easy mistake to make if you have a retard female brain lol.

>>40669547
Yeah okay let's think about this logically
>cover recruits literal who, literal whore, literal why, literal what and then someone who jumps ship from a small corpo but actually had okay numbers because she's a climber and wants more
>so they go from like 20-300 CCV to 50,000 CCV debt and 15,000 CCV during the first week as the debut buff
Massive W for the girls and more importantly cover doesn't make money if no one is streaming, so W for cover too.

>>40647668
Mysta and Vox single-handedly caused this

>>40660982
Sneed
Male vtubers work if they work, but guys like Kuzuha mostly stand on their own two feet or with their bros and don't need to leech off women to stay afloat. Even if we assume tempus isn't leeching, nijienfication is pointless because I don't enjoy fart retard bootystank humor in collab streams just because she keeps collabing with him.

Ironically the holoen girls who don't collab with males are the ones who are the most watchable anyway. It's a shame because the males who are watchable get their content dragged down by the girls who are unwatchable.

Thus male female collabs work if they actually have chemistry, but collabs to own the chuds are gay and lame.

Even nijien doesn't bother to do that, Vox makes more money with his dicksuck asmr streams. I have no idea what happened to luca, the biggest 'offender' in pushing male-female collabs, he seems to be streaming infrequently now.

>>40661219
>I AM SPARTACELCUS

>>40647096
>shilling the jew company
I wouldnt be surprised if most of the unicorn whining and shitposts here were a propoganda campaign by you guys to boost yourselves up. I've seen your YouTube ads you put on vtuber videos, I have no doubt in my mind you'd spend some shekels to "geneivat da'at" against the competition. There is nothing grassroots about you guys, youre just a bunch of money grabbers.
Fuck off.

>>40647732
I don’t watch a single HoloEN stream or even song anymore, and the reason is that the holobox made me not realize how overrated EN are. I’m even kind of wary towards JP just because I know a whole bunch of EN shit is going to get spammed in my feed.
Yeah, I might be being petty, but jfc I wish I’d jumped sooner. And I left in August.

>>40646927
>Cover really fucked the unityfags
>with Tempus
Unityfags didn't exclude the males

>>40672555
that's his point.

>>40670848
The EN Holobox is full of cocks. kimoi!

>>40649857
Yuri in Phase is really nice. She doesn't stream as much as she probably should be, but she's funny, good at interacting with chat, ridiculously kind, and extremely dumb. She'll go on unhinged rants for several minutes and by the end of it she doesn't even remember what she was even talking about, she's that stupid. It's really cute.

>>40653147
>Trying too hard
go the fuck back then kill yourself, faggot
YWNBAW r*dditroon

>>40646927
>The seethe and the hate are getting ridiculous.

>>40646927
Already switched to Phase Connect and Idol Corp. No need to hope for a dying dead branch that INSISTS on killing itself.

>>40648215
Sakana chinese money vs Aviel jewish money.
Ladies and gentlemen, place your bets.

>>40670734
milhouse tier meme

>>40647201
>last month
Havent many of them been either sick or in Japan recording their 3d debuts and concert performances??

I can't think of a single reason why anyone would watch niji

>>40685636 (me)
* excluding the fujo streamers

>>40683707
see you tomorrow when the holos are streaming

>>40686459
>tomorrow
>holoEN streaming
roru
rumao even
>>40685636
some of them are good enough when solo streaming and not rambling for 15 mins talking about the manwhores

>>40685636
>>40685723
unironically cuck fetishists

>>40685636
The only one I watch is Selen, and that's only because of her addictive laugh. I love a good laugh. Couldn't care much about everyone else.

>>40685636
like me some rosemi and elira tho. don't give a fuck about those other fags, but hey at least they got them coins. not worth seething over when they're practically just laughing in their money pits.

>>40652686
20 talents streaming at 2k ccv > 4 talents streaming at 6k ccv

>>40646927
How can you ever have peace between people who take Vtubers seriously?

>>40691870
Not really since you'd have to pay 20 full time wages instead of just 4. More than that really since there are managers and producers thst need to be paid as well. 2k might barely support a twitch streamer who streams from his bedroom, but it wouldn't support a holo streamer.