/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Coco.

Can you lurk instead of begging to be spoonfed like a Redditor?

>>4065855
Chinks said "Fire Coco or lose us".
They didn't expect cover to say ok bye.

>>4065855
DO your REPS faggot

>>4065855
Yogiri didn't deserve this........

>>4065855
Chinks are already a poor waste of time to invest money into. Too many restrictions. Cover thought they could get by some of the commie. Commie scum tried to infest itself into Cover management. Cover cut the infested wound because there was no hope.

China is a shit hole that should've never been entered.

>>4065880
>>4065924
So Coco basically destroyed the hope and dreams of all the CN chuubas...so this is the power of orange woman...

>>4065985
So why not start Holo TW? iirc Yogiri is Taiwanese

>>4065855
after the taiwan incident, CNs basically sent an indirect ultimatum: coco or them. had cover fired coco, fubuki would probably leave as well, destroying the credibility of hololive & overseas fans would follow suit.

>>4066033
>so this is the power of orange woman
Actually, it's the power of chink autism. They're the ones that threw a hissy fit over a fucking word.

>>4065961
blame chink for their entitlement.
They're the one forced cover to pick the side.

>>4066033
Fucking based Coco. I’m grateful to her for getting rid of a large part of hololive’s Chinese fanbase

>>4066110
Anon, I can't tell if you're autism is working so hard that you're thinking in parallel universes or you're fundamentally retarded.

CN threatened to pull out at the mere mention of True China (Taiwan). If Cover switched from CN to TW then the girls and cover itself would probably be legitimately harassed. Not just mean words, but actual violence. The CCP has overseas "communities" in a lot of countries, including JP. This would probably prompt enough of a spit to warrant a few retaliations. Not deaths, sure. But destruction of property as well as potentially leaking as much as the girl's info as possible.

>>4066111
>>4066120
>>4066182
So the Holo CN chuubas are innocent in all of this? They're just scapegoats?

What's with all the zhangs coming out of the woodwork lately? This is like the 3rd HoloCN thread I've seen today

>>4066310
No retard. If they're from the Mainland they're 1000% commie scum supporters. That's true for all Chinese celebrities. If they weren't, they wouldn't be allowed to be popular.

>>4066310
More like collateral damage, but they're no saints either. Some of them were siding with the chinks.

>>4066120
The thing is even Aqua and Korone once said the all powerful T-word but the bugs didn’t care. The reasons why they exploded when Coco did it was because they thought it was in retaliation to when Haachama said it and because they just hate English speaking westerners (which they think coco is).

>>4066405
Comrade Winnie-the-Pooh finally let them onto /vt/

>>4066310
Well, 2 of them actively encouraged their fans to spam and 1 of them indirectly endorsed it, so...

>>4066310
When did I say they were innocent?

>>4066287
I don't know if you're retarded or not, but there are plenty of Japanese firms that work with Taiwanese businesses and the Taiwanese government. Japs hate Chicoms as much as them.

>>4065961
she absolutely deserved it. fuck yogiri and fuck her braindead faggot supporters.

Slightly off topic but does anyone think Echo would've actually not renewed her contract after the first year or did she just have hindsight bias?

>>4065855
official?
>Cover said they didn't make enough
https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1326807285566382080?s=20
unofficial?
they got fucking uppity because of the Haato/Coco TAIWAN incident and caught the boot.

>>4066565
Nigger, did you even read? It's not working with the Taiwanese is the issue. It's switching from Fake China to the Taiwanese. Why Cover ever wanted to work with zhangs is beyond me.

>>4066592
All she wanted to do is sing. She wasn't involved in this shit whatsoever and was apolitical through and through. Do you fucking reps EOP trash.

>>4066737
>Why Cover ever wanted to work with zhangs is beyond me.
They fell for the BEEG MARKET trap like many other companies before them and many others to cone because no one seems to learn from previous failures

China was responsible for like 10% of their profits and 90% of their problems. If you do business which China there will always be problems because they get assmad if you don't act like China is the center of the universe and the best most perfect thing ever.

>>4067069
Sadly true. Was just hoping they had other ideas but honestly? Probably not.

What was the name of that short purpled haired gal, she seemed sweet.

HoloCN was part of an elaborate PLA intelligence op to perfect cyberbrain hacking technology. Most if not all of the members were unaware of the true reason for their formation. When Coco realized this, she attempted to bring the operation down. Little did she know she was secretly infected with the experimental virus. It's only a matter of time now before it spreads and mutates throughout the Japanese net.

>>4067334
Spade Echo

>>4067334
>ayame' sister
>sweet
Well ofc she is

>>4067654
Thanks hon, gosh do i miss her.

>>4067950
https://youtu.be/LUTuoQhNeMo

>>4065855
> Coco and Haachama during one of the streams showed their statistics to show from where their viewers are.
> Inconveniently Youtube statistics have Taiwan as separate country.
> Chinks got seriously pissed off because how dare you to say that part of their Chinese empire is a free country.
> Chinks decided to make huge shitstorm, mainly focusing their hate on Coco because apparently she ready the oh-horrible T-word and it was on her channel that it happened.
> Harassment was huge, ugly and horrible
> Chinese government was openly anti-Coco and anti-Hololive
> Most Chinese-owned shit in internet space banned words like Coco, Hololive etc.
> China became extremely unhealthy for Cover so they decided to leave that market instead of being harassed by haters.

>>4066182
Poor Suisei and Aqua, they've lost a huge part of their fanbase because China is autist

>>4065855
are we getting raided by chinks right now or something

you know you aren't going to change any opinions right, all that's gonna happen is people are gonna double-down when they see chink characters anywhere

These threads always gather the biggest retards on this board. It's just too bad the tranny jannies are in on it too, otherwise they were nuke these /pol/ fags like they do antis in Kiara threads.

>>4065855
>Cover needed to grow
>Thinks CN will be the ultimate future market >Even builds Gen 5 with appeal to CN in mind
>CN want to force their politics onto the core JP branch. Orange woman bad.
>Cover expand to EN as hedge
>EN move is sign of desperation
>Cover tries to salvage CN goodwill, suspends orange woman and chama
>Orange Woman still bad!
>EN is incredible hit
>Orange Woman! Orange Woman!
>EN success spills over to JP branch
>Holo coin skyrockets, Nijiniggers on suicide watch.
>ORANGEWOMAN!
>CN is obvious money pit while EN is goldmine.
>Crashing CN with no survivors
>Gen 5 is de chinkafied
>You are here

>>4066565
HTC is the biggest 3rd party shareholder of Cover corps, anon.

only fake nip hate taiwan.

>>4065855
Chinks are subhumans

Today I shall remind them.

>>4071888

>>4072182

>>4065855
Reminder they took this away from you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjMh1LP6uxk

>>4072392

>>4071030
>Gen 5 is de chinkafied
And by that, you meant just Nene, right? Inexplicably changed from Chinese girl to bear girl.

>>4065855
working with the chinese is hard, cover was a small company at the time and decide it was too much to handle
some of the talent were bad people, chinese fans are horrible, business in china is hard etc...

>>4072491
https://streamable.com/5rqxj5

>>4072574

>>4072581
Botan was going to learn Chinese but that's out of the window. Now she's the Russian Empress

>>4066287
A lot of the info is already out, so a leak is an overstatement. They would definitely spread it further and make it easier to access, but most of the girls had poor opsec before joining holo. I think the big issue would be government funded spam and harassment shutting down chat and donation readings. Cover doesn’t have enough moderator presence to cope with prolonged harassment by a large group of people.

>>4072581
botan was also learning chinese iirc

>>4072762

>>4071888
>>4072182
>>4072392
>>4072574
>>4072762
Chink hands drew this

>>4073038
Hololive is totally a black company bro, they don't treat their talent as human. It's all roleplaying.

>>4072491
The zhangs you say? Yeah, fuck those guys

>>4071888
>>4072182
>>4072392
>>4072491
>>4072574
>>4072762
>>4073038
Yogiri........

>>4073186
Facts. This screams as shitty cup propaganda

>>4073254
It's all fake bro, they all support a terrible company baka.
>>4073186
AIyaaa I am totally not a Chinese dude.

>>4073451
Sure zhang. If your people knew how to behave you would still have a CN branch

>>4073451
Either a chink or a chink supporting seanig.

>>4069888
The chinks were demanding direct lines to the talents and demanding Cover hand over Aqua. They lucked out cause otherwise Aqua would have been forced to choke on tiny chinese peepees right now, like Mea is.

>>4073254
It is quite impressive though how Holofags managed to spin this situation as Cover being the victim, the powerful company, not the CN girls who wanted to at least keep their models. They are said to deserve it too for not being corporate whores who went along with Cover's backstabbing and for having their own opinions. The irony is completely lost on them as they talk about governments trying to control people's behavior.

>>4073382
>>4073451
Never forgive Coco.

THE QUARRY KING

>>4073875
Australian Chink diaspora here. I loved Holo CN but I absolutely hate the fucking Chinese Communists. It's reason why my grandparents fled to Australia.

>>4074027
Stop replying to yourself faggot. Nobody cares about your stupid one shot manga filled with CCP propaganda

I will never forgive the chinese.

Take your meds schizo.

>>4074097
I blame China, the CCP and Communist Chinese fans for sperging out on something so fucking trivial.

>>4074239
Do it.
>>4074558

>>4074190
you're welcome here. it's really fucking difficult to sort the mainlanders and tourists from the genuinely good chinese because of the government-enforced brainwashing

>>4074027
Cover, Coco and Haachama is a legit victim, Chink rrat are the one that destroy themselves , it's their fault for believed that shit without thinking rationally.

A rationally fan try to reason with them but they got shunned out of bilibili and now take refuge in reddit V8 subs

>>4074190
You have to go back, bug.

>>4074190
If you loved holoCN apart from Yogiri after all the shit came out, I am afraid you are retarded, I mean genuinely retarded. Like, you can't be this stupid

>>4072491
im so glad we got to keep reddit review and lost this.

>>4074894
Nigger my oshi was Yogiri and Spade Echo. They literally dindu nuffin.

>>4074930
Chinese drones really are out today, right?

>>4074239
And Yogiri are taiwanese. Anyone who repost this manga will be fined -50 credits score due to treason to CCP.

>>4067057
i did, looks like you didn't. she's just as guilty as the other CN fags and she rightfully got what she fucking deserved. fuck her and fuck all of you for defending her.

The whole China situation is just a big case study on why you don't let the anti minority of a fanbase control the narrative. Really feel bad for the remainder of the Chinese hololive fanbase and how they have to silently support the girls now.

>>4075233
Why? Yogiri is Taiwanese. Do your reps before talking shit dumbcunt EOP

>>4074027
>their own opinions
>literal CCP propaganda

>>4075167

>>4074887
Nah m8. True blue right fucking here. You want me to go back, you have to make me do it you bogan cunt
>>4074841
All I want to do is watch my Oshi (yogiri) sing, collab with other members (especially Soda and Asskey) but the commie insects destroyed her. If the Chicoms dare to invade Taiwan i'd be the first one to join the volunteer corps to kill communists.

>>4075233
Post proofs or you're a butthurt west Taiwai zhang.

>>4075735
Ok zhang. Goodbye, remember that you have a +10 to you credit score

>>4075738
At the end of the day, that's the mentality to take. Cover would've stayed in China, but the zhangs ruined it. Don't fall for rrats

>>4075350
so? she's still just as bad as the rest of them. it's her own fault.

>>4065855
Insects don't deserve nice things

>>4075997
ogey

>>4076119
shut up with this stupid fucking meme

>>4076119
rrat

>>4076238
ogey

basically what happened was:

-before some time, holos would simultaneously stream on bilibili and youtube
-during a haachama stream she was talking about something and opened up her youtube analytics which listed taiwan under some category
-she got banned from bilibili for 3 weeks because chinks consider taiwan a part of china and showing it listed as its own seperate entity was viewed as an attack on chinese solidarity or something
-later that day coco does the exact same thing (whether it was on purpose or not is still up for debate)
-coco also gets banned from bilibili for three weeks
-because the haachama thing happened first, chinks thought coco did it to provoke them and started attacking her
-eventually cover issued a (at the time) temporary blanket halt on all holo JP streams on bilibili
-a bunch of other shit came out implicating some of the holoCN girls in provoking or encouraging anti attacks against JP girls, mainly coco; stuff like discord screenshots, sock puppet twitter accounts, and so on. none of it was ever conclusively proven or linked to any of them except maybe artia
-due to the drama that had happened and the continuing attacks against certain holos, cover decided that it was simply not feasible to continue streaming on bili and they axed holoCN, since the mainland CNs can't stream on any other platforms. i assume artia and civia who are both US-based were let go because cover felt there was no way to integrate them into the JP mainline, and because of the baggage they'd be bringing along.

this is the plain and most basic truth of what happened, don't trust any other narratives.

chink loop again

>>4073451
why are you posting an edit??
here, the original one

>>4076514

>>4066033
Pretty fucking based when you put it like that.

>>4076374
are you too upset to accept the fact that yogiri was just as responsible as the rest of them and deserves worse than what she got?

>>4076591

>>4076660

>>4066592
Yogiri was the good one retard, she's the only one who hlg and hlgg somewhat cared about

>>4072581
All of Gen 5 launched with bilibili channels, now defunct. Botan knows almost no English. She planed to start learning Chinese. Polka even tried posting some stuff in Chinese before debut. Polka and Nene were probably better suited to a EN audience since they are both ESL chamas. Thus they threw the chink design onto Nene when Gen 5 was originally planed, just in case. Polka did not get any chink treatment since she was a last min addition to Gen 5, so they just threw random stuff at her design and called it a day. Aloe no longer exists in this timeline so it's irrelevant.

>>4076719

>>4076609
>are you too upset to accept the fact that yogiri was just as responsible as the rest of them and deserves worse than what she got?

>>4076775
>Yogiri was the good one
you dont know that

>>4076775
no she's fucking not. she's just as shitty as the other fags. hololive is better without them dragging the company down.

>>4076793

>>4076778
Aloe..........

Fartia had a CN channel in her server actively used to harass Coco, since retarded westerners can't read bugspeak they thought she was innocent.

Only people with a special zhang role can access it now, doesn't matter anyway because her new Twitch channel is dead and so is her server after nuking her other vtubers channel.

Meanwhile Coco continues to thrive and grow in subs and revenue.

>>4076863
ze endo

You guys don't actually like talking about China, right? These threads all feel the same after a certain point.

>>4077026
Has any thread ever turned out worthwhile when it is started by someone asking a question they already know the answer to?

>>4076858
>no she's fucking not. she's just as shitty as the other fags. hololive is better without them dragging the company down.

>>4073254
Holy shit this is actually a thing i can see why Onion is the bugmen favourite now both are fucking retards lmao

>>4077357
as they say,
Fans reflect their oshi

>>4076802
>>4077285
i'm not spoonfeeding you, faggot. figure it out for yourself.

>>4077697
ogey

ITT: zhangs trying to build their social credit score back up after getting caught masturbating

>>Zhang eating it's own rrat like a candy even their's rrat are proven to be ogey.

Kinda like shooting the gun at your own foot ngl.

>>4076407
You skipped a lot between the halt of jp's stream on bili and CN girls backstab.

Also the reason why Cover didn't try to integrate Artia or Civia was because the CN girls had claimed that whatever decision they were gonna make they would make as a group, so if they go they all go

>>4077847
Also forgot that Bilibili side try to backstab Cover via HoloCN manager to spread lies about kept the Live2D model.

That shit was never part of the option from the start.

>>4066033
Bugs don't have hopes and dreams they exist only to eat the waste of the world and be crushed if they come within our view

>>4071888
>>4072182
>>4072392
>>4072574
>>4072762
Imagine drawing something like this when your own countrymen are to blame

>join a foreign talent agency
>one of the girls in an entirely other nation merely MENTIONS the name of a contested nation
>your stupid fellow citizens chimp out and harrass her to the point that your employer decides dealing with your nation isn't worth the trouble
>try to act like the boss is to blame instead of your thin-skinned manchild brethren

>>4077728
shut up faggot. that's all you have to say. yogiri isn't as innocent as you think she is, take your meds and understand this already.

>>4077697
ogey

>>4077847
>the CN girls had claimed that whatever decision they were gonna make they would make as a group, so if they go they all go

They would have ended up in the gulag if they'd stayed and we all know it.

>>4078753
Ogey

>>4078637
even if the holoCN girls did nothing wrong, they were screwed
if it wasn't the mention of taiwan, it would be something else that triggered the chinese citizenry- it's not about the specific landmine, it's the fact that the market itself is a fucking minefield of topics the CCP won't let you talk about
sucks to be born in captivity, i guess

>>4065855
>Can anyone give me a serious answer why Holo CN was nuked?

Because Chinese people are legitimately mentally ill and tried to threaten Cover and didn't expect Yagoo's giant brass balls and inability to negotiate with terrorists

>>4066524
who?

>>4078753
Based ogey bait poster, have a (You)

>>4073451
>Aiyaaa
Ok sorry Malaysian Chinese

>>4078912
>even if the holoCN girls did nothing wrong, they were screwed
Basically you're fucked the instant you're born in China, not even emigrating can guarantee your safety from them. If they had agreed to just be integrated into Cover JP their families would have been absolutely looked into and that's not an exaggeration. Their safety was on the line; even if they didn't want to quit they -had- to.

We're all better off cutting China off and not dealing with them and the fact that Nijisanji doesn't makes me not want to engage with their content.

>>4079065
B-but Yogiri is Taiwanese........

>>4079099
And so? she decide to goes as a group so it's her choice to graduated.

>>4078921
Artia and Rosalyn, Civia had some of the spam organizers as her channel mods and never removed them (she also unfollowed Coconon twitter, but that's kinda inconsequential)

>>4076922
Thanks for the sauce of the original anon. Your autism was put to good work here

>>4066565
2/3rds of japans most used script is chinese characters.
japs are chinks.
>>4066405
Cocoslut just did a cringe complete shitpost meme review with the worst HoloEN streamer Mori Calliope. It was pretty heavily anticipated.
>>4066476
Coco is. She speaks english as well as she does because she is either a transplanted nipper and grew up in GA, or is American born and moved to nip central.
Either way the bugmen aren't wrong. Kson onair is a western slut.

>>4079734
the issue isn't with people who are ethnically chinese, it's with the people stuck in China who have never known anything but CCP propaganda

>>4079734
>>seething

That's why nobody care what you say in global stage anymore.

>>4079896
a bug is a bug, no matter what nation it infests.
>>4080048
i can smell the shit from here. go dilate shanty slanty, then remember your ancestors memory by looking at the stone they were burned into.

>>4065950

>>4080780
Based

>>4077697
ogey

>>4065855
>unironic chink posting
>yogurt
fuck off.

Chinese holo fans already had a pile of grievances, and Coco was just the trigger
The holomembers weren't streaming on Bilibili enough or giving the CN audience enough attention. They used the Coco Taiwan controversy to try to show that they're an audience with a voice that should be heard. Unfortunately for them, that was a very poor choice to use as the main object of protest because global sentiment towards Chinese super patriotism is very poor and nobody else in the world was sympathizing with them. The Chinese fans then escalated it further into harassment and threats (fire Coco or else etc.). At this point the behavior was viewed so negatively, that if Cover conceded, then all fans outside of China would be giving Cover shit.
So Cover can either concede to the CN demands which would draw the ire of their main Japanese audience and their up and coming EN audience, or deny the CN demands which would essentially result in cutting ties with the CN audience. Cover chose the latter and HoloCN inevitably had to be shut down as well.

>>4079221
Yogiri didn't wanted to go but was forced to. Your reps EOP

> Whitell is 1 of original Andy
> Whitell is a keyperson translator in Artia discord
> Whitell and his gangs built discords for attack Coco and other Hololive members
> but Redditor found them joined them and leak everything to Coco supporter.
> Whitell knew they have Judas in his discord so he talked to other Artia mod discord.
> They agree to cover and help Whitell (aka Andy at that time) attack Hololive and Coco not exile him.
> Somehow this information is leaking on surface and cannot stop it anymore.
> everything happened in mid October to the end of November last year.
> These discord was raided by TW friends and Reddittors and was destroyed by them

>>4081687
As usual, the fault lies with Yagoo.

>>4081897
Sometimes, I feel the Taiwanese deserve more support and love from Cover

>>4081897
to ######### sent 6 months ago

https://youtu.be/klMKoGJJUeo
https://youtu.be/60ptlJDgBm8
https://youtu.be/Vp2WwyK1zsY
https://youtu.be/MDtmGw459iI

See part 1 to 4
You will understand everything
They even spammed Miko stream

>>4065961
She's in a happier place now. Probably. I don't know Chinese or how the fuck bilibili works.

Cover chose Coco and saving their face in the western market that they were just breaking into, if Cover killed Coco you can bet that Covers image wouldve been forever tarnished in the west since Coco is a western darling. So they were forced to choose which market they wanted.

>>4080373
>>4079734
>ESL third worlder
>opinions no one else cares about
ogey

>>4081911
No , the fault lies with Artia discord. They have chance to save Artia but not do it

>>4082385
They'd kill their own market in japan as well

>>4082384
https://youtu.be/CuSnqiKDiNU
She walked the same path as Aloe and went back to her old persona.

>>4082477
I guess that'd also be a given too. HoloCN was doomed from the first moment bugs went rabid

>>4082323
>And I want to remind you.
>Artia discord really have chance to save Artia by exile Andy ( Whitell and gangs at that time)
> They chose to help Andy and not do anything to him. They even cover for him.
> The truth is expose. HololiveCN was axed.
> Artia was killed by her fan

>>4081883
You're the one need to do your rep , chink

>>4082594
Everything I write are the truth behind the scene. Believe it or not is up to you.

http://imgur.com/a/hpHHA3t

>>4082229
Let's be real, Cover openly supporting just Taiwan and not China would just rekindle the flames so it won't happen. At the very least the hololive members don't seem to be discriminating against Taiwanese viewers as they're just as likely to read messages and SCs from them. They also like/retweet twitter posts from Chinese and or Taiwanese accounts without any discrimination either if it's good art or is a supportive post.
Honestly, I don't think anyone is against Chinese or Taiwanese fans, just the antis or "fans" with their own agendas

>>4082779

>>4083183
Oh we have see above

>>4081687
>The Chinese fans then escalated it further into harassment and threats (fire Coco or else etc.).
Many of these weren't even fans. They were just patriots and nationalists who hopped on the big news.

>>4083643
Chinese youth ALWAYS follow the CCP Narrative. They need to let the government how to think. You can't be contrarian or you'll be punished.

>>4083831
The CCP itself stepped in and told them to fuck off, so that's not it.

>>4083879
If that was the case then Coco and Haachama wouldn't been banned on bilibili

>>4083643
Maybe I should put it as "fans", but the situation really got way more out of hand than it should have. The patriots and nationalists hopped on, the holoantis hopped on, people that just wanted to shit on something hopped on, everyone that could have a bone to pick with hololive went on the bandwagon

>>4083831
While there is an excessive amount of indoctrination and propaganda in China, and there is without a doubt a number of ultra patriotic crazies, but I'm choosing to believe that there are still reasonable people living there. They play the role of model patriotic citizen when needed, but are normal people otherwise in their private life.

>>4084049
>private life
>Communist China
Pick 1

>>4066438
Your thinking is the same exact as the Zhang's, but they think everyone in the west is a dick sucking faggot queer trans. I hate people like you who only can think in absolutes

>>4084009
They were banned from a platform. The wumao were called off because they were going ballistic over an online idol girl accidentally calling Taiwan an independent country. It makes China look silly.

most of you didn't actually see what happened and just based information on posts you saw on /jp/ or /pol/ or whatever. Tons of misinformation about literally everything that happened is out there but gets treated as truth because everyone is too lazy to actually figure out the truth so it's much easier to just blindly believe some string of greentext saying nonsense.

>>4084430
>Only a sith deals in absolutes
That is an absolute.

>>4084553
>chink

>>4065880
Do you think coco spoke to holo cn during this major yab? I'd like to think so, if not then Coco is probably still holding some regret on her.

>>4073451
Source? Is this holocn related?

>>4065855
Nobody knows and anyone who says otherwise is a goddamn liar. The best bet is that it was fallout over the Taiwan incident, but what exactly went down is a mystery.

>>4076407
>>4078090
This and this. Do your homework and stop believing chink lies. At the end of the day, it's impossible to branch into the chinese market while keeping it beholden to the main branch. Even if we pretend the talents themselves had done nothing, the rest of the CN staff was implicated enough to can that dumpster fire. It was a dirty cut, but it saved their (Cover's) ass in the long run.

>>4065855

china thought they were in charge. than they got baned by coco.

>>4085596
> Bilibili side with stabber and attack Hololive
> Chink lies

MEDS Bros

>>4074027
99% of these idiots have a reflexive hatred for all things Chinese. They're mouth breathers who only understand that their great enemy supposedly got hurt somehow.

>>4075738
>If the Chicoms dare to invade Taiwan i'd be the first one to join the volunteer corps to kill communists.
Then go overseas and volunteer you fucking preteen.

>>4085632
God knows if you can find the archives, but Artia had mentioned that her manager had told her they had the option the keep the models, something the CN manager had completely made up - I imagine it was to incite some type of ire from the fanbase towards cover for "hurting the talents".

>>4085675
You're right that most don't understand and have a blind hatred of West Taiwan, but anyone who has had any experience dealing with the chinks as business partners know that this very well lands on the faults of their behavior.

>>4084553
Yup. It feeds into their narratives and they eat it up whole.

>>4085710
I fucking would, they're my people against the Commie hordes. You fucking idiot. No wonder the white race is dying, no one is defending your people against leftists and communists.

>>4084553
The basic facts can't be debated. They said taiwan, chinks can't stand the mere mention of that word. Nobody but chinks are to blame for overreacting to that

Cover has more morals than most entertainment companies by deciding to split with China.

I can't really bring myself to give a shit about this whole drama anymore, it's been long enough for me to completely forget about it. But what happened to Yogiri was a damn shame, that girl deserved far more. They could've at least given her the rights to use her model.

>>4086210
That would mean that they'd have to give the model rights to the two roaches that actively stirred up the rest of the bugs.
No way the zhangs would accept their wolf warriors missing out while the few innocent ones get the rights transferred over. If anything, it would cause them to doxx the other former HoloCN members for using something that reminds them of Cover corp.

>>4086133
they didn't do it because they disagree with the actions of the CCP, they did it because if they didn't they would've had to drop a big money maker.

>>4086498
Anon... you should read about Fubuki role in Taiwan yab...

>>4084553
Oh... really, may be you just talk to Judas in Spamming Discord ? Who know ?

KUSA

>>4086552
you're just creating fanfiction to make it seem like it was Cover Corp and the talents of hololive rallying together to stand up against the CCP when it really was just "We don't want to fire a big money maker and they're mad at us there, so we're just going to keep the money maker" nothing more.

>>4065855
Practice for the real nuking chinks deserve

>>4086624
Lurk more and see comment in above Anon. He even give you evidence already about Whitell spamming discord already

>>4086666
again, it's all speculation and fanfiction to make the decision seem like some big grandstanding stance, but it literally was just money that made them decide. People want to act like there was some big grand battle, but really it was just "investors will get mad if we tell them we fired our at the time most profitable by a very large margin member because a few people in China told us too" it literally was just Cover deciding they wanted that superchat money and assuming that EN and ID would fill any losses they'd be left with.

Do the chinks really think we'll change our mind once they give out their "reasons" or some shit? That's pretty funny if that's the case.

>>4086346
Then give the right to everyone. Who cares, it's not like Cover has any use for these models anyway.

>>4086776
>>4086811
Ogey

>>4080780
Based

>>4065855
Chinese autism.

>>4087163
Cover buys the models and rigging. It's extremely expensive and a huge investment. Giving these very expensive models away to people who actively doxxed, harassed and organized, encouraged the chunks against Coco simply was retarded thinking. But then when civia and artia started saying cover had already allowed them to keep the models without actually talking to cover about it there was no way they would be allowed to. It's disrespectful. I actually think if they hadn't been huge cunts and organized doxx and spam raids on coco while asking cover for support they would have been able to keep the models. But they never did that. Ultimately civia and artia spoiled it for the rest of them because they wanted to appease their vocal bug men fans.

>>4065924
This

>>4087163
It's too dangerous to let go of any IP.

>>4084430
Listen faggot. If they (HoloCN) are from the mainland, they're comiescum. They have to be. Because they're "celebrities". And all celebrities in Mainland Taiwan have to be comie supporters. Or else they're simply not allowed to be celebrities. If your brain somehow deluded itself into reading what I wrote applied to all West Taiwanese, then go eat a brick. It'll make you less dense you twat.

>>4076514
>>4076591
>>4076660
>>4076719
>>4076793
>>4076863

>>4076591
>SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP
My sides have gone into orbit already.

>>4065855
Chinese fans were not appeased by the Coco/Haachama suspension, seemed like they were not going to calm down anytime soon. Began unsubbing from the rebroadcast channels and the CN branch. Cover began to have sponsorship and game permission issues with Chinese companies. The whole point of even being in China was basically compromised, leaving the CN branch as little more than a potential hostage the Chinese could harass every time they had an issue with Hololive. On top of that, they weren't even getting close to profitability. They decided to get out of business with China entirely and that included shuttering the CN branch.

>>4086210

Simple answer is, Cover learned hard way that you don't even try to work with Chinese. Because bad things happen.

>>4066476
Haachama was also getting harassed less than an hour after her stream, they just switched to Coco when she did it a day later.

They were always looking to target those two because they had a strong western demographic. They targeted Coco more because she is actually American.

>>4079734
>2/3rds of japans most used script is chinese characters.
>japs are chinks.

>Half of europe uses the same alphabet, so the must all be the same.
ogey

>try to dictate what countries Hololive talents can mention, fail
>try to get Hololive talents fired, fail
>try to spam Hololive stream chats, fail
>try to muddy the waters and damage control on 4chan of all places, fail
So far they've lost Hololive CN completely, lost JP streams on Chinese platforms, and lost CN models. The track record for the Chinese antis is nothing but complete failure.

>>4087725
lol the island of taiwan will never be its own nation

>>4065855
cover corp was blacklisted by the CCP shortly after the incident, there wasn't much benefit remaining in the chinese market, and they didn't have much control over their talents either with 2 of them taking part in the anti-coco harrassment campaigns

>>4077749
remember that zhangs unironically believed the rrat that cover had a struggle session where fubuki and sora kept telling coco to shut up

>>4088733
It is an independent nation with its own military, government and legislation. Seethe more Zhang.

>>4088949
it's a puppet state american aircraft carrier that can't even deal with a year-old disease lol

>>4087725
My man lives in '60s, also it's commie

Throbbing CoCock of justice happened. Bugs were forced out of free side of the internet. Snake was raped and then cucked by unicorn, also self doxed. So needles to say I see this whole debacle as an absolute win for all human beings.

>>4065855
Besides the Coco flamewar, CN simply became an unnecessary and dangerous market (say something that slightly offends Supreme Leader Winnie the Pooh and get ready for yab after yab) once HoloEN became a massive hit and introduced even mainstream normies to Vtubers (previously nothing more something very niche and limited to Japan). In the end, Cover did the right thing, if they instead fired Coco, Fubuki would cause a strike, and hololive would either destroy itself or end up massively lobotomised and Disney-fied.

if you seriously think xi or any other chinese politician cares about vtubers then you need to take your meds

why can't chinks stop seething?

>>4068766
>Most Chinese-owned shit in internet space banned words like Coco, Hololive etc.
I still don't understand how this happened, chinks are literally insane.
Still miss OG Yogiri and Artia though, they were fun.

>>4089434
Authoritarian states are all about image. Say anything bad about Supreme Leader and no social credit for you. Heck, Xi Jinping was the same person who got Winnie the Pooh banned just because someone online (without any intent of malice or slander) pointed out that he looks like him. Of course, they don't comprehend the Streisand Effect (Censorship never works) and now we all call Xi "Winnie the Pooh".

>>4089530
winnie the pooh is not banned in china you retard

>>4089029
lmao if it's such a pitiful island, why hasn't the PLA conquer the place yet? Talk is cheap, Zhang. Xi is afraid to do anything military against Taiwan.

>>4089664
Exactly because what he said, it's the puppetstate of a superstate. Who would attack a superstate?

I miss spade echo...

>>4089885
Zhangs are unable to properly invade Taiwan because they lack amphibious capabilities and only have 2 windows a year to do a land invasion. Even without US backed assistance.

>>4074097
Never forgive the Wolf Warriors*
If a half American cartoon dragon saying the word "Taiwan" is enough to send them on an organised hate campaign then they're the problem for not being able to grow a thicker skin, and its the fault of the Chinese government for encouraging this sort of behaviour.

>>4086776
He give us with 4 clips video link and 1 picture and you give us nothing.

>>4088733
Seethe. the working class Taiwanese has over 3 times as much disposable income as the working class Zhang. Taiwan has free healthcare for all and the workers right to union enshrined in law. All things that "Communist" China doesn't have. Taiwan is not only an independent country, but its an independent country that is closer to socialism than the China that claims to actually be socialist. China won't invade Taiwan because if it did, it would be a PR nightmare

>>4088510
>>try to get Hololive talents fired, fail
Well, they kinda succeeded, just not the ones they railed against.

>>4065855
bc chinks are programmed suicidal bots. either way vtuber will last so long there.

Avatars cannot have any sexual expressions, suggestive elements or performances, incl. but not lim. to touching sensitive parts, suggestive clothing, striptease, simulating sexual postures, enticing movements, or other elements and motions that entice the imagination in a sexual fashion.

No exposure of sensitive parts or enticing audience focus on sensitive parts, clothing or items, incl. but not lim. to suggestions of sexual organs, mentions of underwear, removing pantyhose, etc

No furry culture ( :kekw:) or its influence and no mentions of it, or such sexual performance, incl but not lim to crossing tails (??) touching th body and other intimate actions.

No other performance or elements which disrupt public morals. (VAGUE)

Users (streamers) understand and promise that the avatar and its usage do not contain elements that cause the audience to have immoral reactions.

No usage of insects (rip juniper), or phobia inducting elements which can cause ill feelings/reactions in the audience.

No malicious pranks, ill taste, or intentional denigration or mockery of others in elements of design.

No intentionally exposing (Emphasizing?) hand, waist, feet and other sensitive parts (a little confusion on my parts here; I think you can't tease just a body part)

No use of anything else to cause the audience discomfort, overtly or subtly

Users understand and promise the avatar's usage does not violate any of the <<Streamer Attire and Scenery Rules>> incl but not lim to below:

No nudity

No wearing perceptible underwear with a sexual intent, wearing underwear outside, S/M gear or other low and unseemly clothing

No intentionally exposing chest, underwear (?), underwear, pantyhose, suspender underwear, garter belt, (2 kinds of traditional Chinese innerwear its the same idea) etc

Male streamer avatars must not wear 3 point or 4 point underwear (no speedos) and the waist shall not be below the hip bone

>>4091419
>will
*wont

Female streamer avatar back exposure shall not expose more than 2/3 of the upper back, above the waist line

Female streamer avatar lower wear shall cover up and over the hip bone; shorts and skirts cannot be above the lower hip line

Female streamer chest exposure shall not exceed 1/3 of chest, lowest point of upper clothing shall not be lower than 1/3 of the distance from top of chest

Other forms of sexual exposure are similarly prohibited.

Users understand and promise no elements of the avatar's usage and design elements violate laws and bilibili platform rules such as blow:

Imitation of or mockery of the country, political and historical figures, heroes of the revolution etc

No depictions of law breaking, violence and shock, sexual, and commercial advertisement in elements of the avatar (they mention earlier to go through bilibili business management for commercial collaborations)

No depictions of national, military or party offices, positions, military uniforms in the avatar design

No use of pre-revolutionary superstitious elements, seditious elements, or forbidden religious elements

No use of gambling tools, sex toys, clothing and other immoral items as props (rip m0istcr1tikal)

No use of content with a sexual nature ( i don't know the examples but you get the point)

No elements that viollate other Chinese law and bilibili platform rules

Users understand and promise the avatar and its use does not contain elements in violation of trademark and copyright.

>>4076775
>and hlgg somewhat cared about
now now she indeed did nothing wrong but no one knew a thing about CN branch besides Artia due to meme spam.

>>4091446
These rules are so all-encompassing (exposing hands is already considered yabai? WTF?) that bilibili basically ensured the death of vtubing on their platform.

>>4088472
yes, half of Europe is Roman.

yogurt did nothing wrong

>>4074190
based Chang
fuck them Zhangs

>>4089664
because there's no need to. one day the american cash will dry up and taiwan will have to accept mainland sovereignty. it's just a matter of waiting.

>>4090814
all you do is lie. shameful.

>>4092454
>this level of cope

>>4084553
What happened is really simple.
Haato read her analytics on stream, China got upset
Coco read her analytics on stream a few hours later for Asacoco, China took this as a personal attack because "haato did it by mistake, Coco did it on purpose"
That's all the girls did. China losing their fucking shit and being complete retards is their own damn fault.

>>4087585
>But then when civia and artia started saying cover had already allowed them to keep the models without actually talking to cover about it there was no way they would be allowed to. It's disrespectful.
They were misled by their managers, who were their intermediaries for Cover. This one's not on them.

>Haato reads analytics
>Coco reads analytics
>Antis seethe
>4 out of the 6 members of holoCN seethe
>HoloCN talents organize raids against coco
>Anti Spam
>HoloCN strong-arms cover for their models
>Cover pulls hololive out of china
>CN is disbanded
That's basically it in a tl:dr. Here's a pastebin though if you want to learn more about it.
https://pastebin.com/fLxn53eE

It seems like more Antis are coming out of the woodwork to try and change what happned. I suggest this. Unless they can bring evidence on their side proving their rrats there is no reason to believe them. Which schizoposter will you believe OP? The one providing links, screenshots, videos, and pastebins, or the one who deflects arguments without bringing evidence and says their opposition's schizoposting isn't true.

>>4088472
>Half of europe uses the same alphabet, so the must all be the same.
I meant to tell you earlier, anon...I just lost track of time, honest!

>>4090140
She was on just a few days ago. Finally had a moving vtuber avatar.

>>4092626
He's got a point there. China can easily just play the waiting game. The U.S likely won't be defending it in 2120, and as long as it's not used for military purposes, it's just an insult to China's pride. Nothing more.

>>4095271
>Provide evidence
>Evidence supports the guy you were arguing against
>Demand he post evidence of his own.
>When you've already done his job for him.
Stay mad, schizo.

>>4097636
He really doesn't, because he's essentially implying that only China will pay for Taiwanese goods one day. That's absurd, because China's economy is LITERALLY in shambles already.

>>4089513
It's all they have, Anon.

>>4097839
>He really doesn't, because he's essentially implying that only China will pay for Taiwanese goods one day.
No, he's saying that only America would subsidize/defend them. Once America steps away, that's done.

>>4097636
You're implying that China is still standing in 2120. Do you want to be reminded of how many time their country broke in history?

>>4098060
>Do you want to be reminded of how many time their country broke in history?
And then quickly reformed? There's a strong enough "One China" sentiment for them to skip secession and just go straight for internal reform, so I believe they'll definitely be around as a single country.

>>4098060
Glorious West Taiwan will never fall. Ignore the global quarantine was definitely not caused by dirty zhangs eating contaminated street meat cause they're too poor to buy even bare amerimutt meat

>>4098213
It's apparently been traced back to Italy as the earliest case. So it was the dirty italians again.

>>4098306
says China.
Of course this is a lie, because how does a chinese bat virus end up in italy?

>>4098306
take it easy plague-Zhang

>>4098176
One China as long as that China is the communist China led by the bear.

>>4098318
Bat pizza.

>>4097636
China will struggle to exist until 2030, the only reason is hasnt already ceased to exist is because it was allowed to take Hong Kong

the sanctioned off-topic /pol/shit thread

>>4098345
>One China as long as that China is the communist China led by the bear.
Wouldn't need to be. The idea of there being a single China was solidified before even the Three Kingdoms era.
>>4098413
That makes 0 sense at all.

>>4075735
t. Zhang

>>4087163
It mattered a lot because they were in background talks with Cover about relinquishing the models, but CN Management and the two shit-stirrers announced it publically as if it had already happened, in an attempt to hold public opinion on the matter hostage and force Yagoo to give in to at least part of their demands.
Unfortunately, Tanigo showed up for work that day. And Tanigo does not like it when people try to play him. The second they tried to force the issue is the second it was pulled completely off the table.

Yogiri was unfortunately caught in the crossfire, as what tends to happen to Taiwanese when you put them in the same group as West Taiwanese.

>>4078753
Keep delusioning yourself

About Hololice CN...
Just a reminder that the """rape""" of nanking was entirely justified. The Japanese army were liberators and putting the dumb cunts in their place. The entire optics around it is a typical victim hood narrative by the Chinese. Japanese navy declared war on America in a cowardly attack against the armies wishes. The Japanese army was a noble organization.

Much like Cover. The Japanese tried to help the Chinese.

>>4085173
Artia's graduation Twitlonger implied they were still talking to each other behind the scenes at the point in time and that Coco was someone she looked up to and respected regardless of how she felt about the red line

>>4083183

>>4088733
t. Zhang

>>4066033
don't forget that Cover themselves also played a part: the statement they released outside of China and the statement they released inside it were completely different from one another

>>4066033
Chinks did it themselves.

>>4087163
You realize how easily it could be abused if a precdent is set that you can use Clover for all it's worth and dump them the second they start making a nice dime off you, or even earlier?
>use clover to get massive promotions and publicity as well as financial, emotional, and managerial support while networking in the industry
>lol i no like payments bye bye
Oh no... guess we'll let a talent we invested massive amounts of money and time into leave with everything we gave her.

Human capital matters. It's why internships work, even the unpaid types. Commies will bitch about it but the massive human capital you accumulate on a job can be worth more than any reasonable payment for said labor. Usually you can leave a company after an internship or job, after they invest in you, but you get shitlisted and you hand back everything material they gave you to do your job. Their models and characters are tools given and maintained by Clover.

And it's hard to name a reasonable price for said characters because said characters benefited from a priceless experience and spotlight provided by the largest v-tuber company. Your future earning dramatically increase by being or having been in hololive. Maybe the best case would be paying a sort of tax on all income you make working using the model -- you took their investment from them after they trusted you not to.

>>4065855
china

>>4067654
>>4074253
>>4090140
>>4066616

fuck bros i think i will forever seethe about the fact that we lost this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWtA1s7Hbq4

>>4098949
I like how edgy ww2 only history retards attach nanking to the issue even though Nanking was the capital of government that rules Taiwan

>>4067256
I see this point from time to time but i don't see the data, the chinks always cry out that they're a bigger market and can give them more money while outside the firewall, i see the opposite get brought up. Is CN really profitable or not? Anons

>>4099764
as far as i can tell, in 2019 and early 2020, False China was a legitimate cash cow, look at the azur lane collab. once COVID really hit though and HL blew up, i think the risk outgrew the financial gains

>>4099103
Yeah, that was definitely a bad play by Yagoo.

Because who gives a shit that's why. Because it didn't matter that they were a branch in the first place. Chinks loved Aqua more than the entire CN branch combined and it wasn't even close. CN were fucking 2views.

>>4099730
That's actually pretty cute

>>4100437
...Or was it?

>>4099764
matsuri.icu
Here's the chink numberfag site, now go dig it yourself if u know how to use Chinese input methods, or try copy kanjis from holo members' names

Yagoo did what NBA couldn't. Tell China to kick sand.

>>4099764
China is only profitable if you are willing to suffer a massive lobotomy to appease their retarded audience. Like Disney did (And even then Disney epically failed with their live action Mulan propaganda movie which was a massive flop in China itself)

Based content creators follow the South Park method and say FAQ to censorship. Which Yagoo fortunately did.

>join a idol company
>get t worded
>refuse to comment on t word and have a stronger fan base than before for being the good one

>>4101454
they basically got blacklisted and were universally hated there
less a "brave yagoo" moment than a "why the fuck are we even in this market anymore" moment

I mean the fact of the matter is that as much as people complain about the loss of the CN audience that's just not true. The ones who were devoted enough just VPN in and continue to watch and support from the shadows. The only harm comes in the form of losing CN company sponsorships but they're making money hand over fist anyways. And any profits they would have made within China would be virtually impossible to get out of China anyways, Chinese currency controls are notoriously strict (not to mention less than transparent).
The real story is basically that some part of the Chinese audience felt threatened by the rising Western audience and attempted to force Cover to pivot away from the West to appease them. Coco represented the "West" of Hololive for obvious reasons, even though Coco was also the one that was going out of her way to help shill Hololive CN and even a couple months (weeks?) before the yab had even discussed with her chat about doing a very special stream for the Bilibili users (some kind of Bilibili meme review maybe). The fact is that in true Chinese tradition, fear of "foreigners" corrupting what they perceived as "theirs" caused the nationalists to do something brash and shoot themselves in the foot.

>>4065961
Honestly if Gogurt was as innocent in being a wumao as suspected she wouldn't have crawled back to the bilibili bug hive and would've gone to Youtube or Twitch. Chances are she's not all that different from the rest in her views but is smart enough to be quiet about it unlike the rest of them.

>>4065855
It made no money and chinks chimped out and demanded cover either graduate the world's top superchat earner or pull out of an unprofitable market. Guess what happened.

>>4065855
Bugmen are vitriolic spambots like no other and pester the living shit out of anything that dares to even mention their country's sovereignty

>>4107698
She'd get like zero viewers on youtube and would have to use a VPN for it. Even the most popular Bilibili streamers get very few Youtube viewers when they try to branch out a little. It's simply more reasonable and practical for her to use Bilibili

>>4065880
Fpbp. Coco had a plan because she can't withstand her desire to be the best at the cost of others, she won. End'o'story.

Civia, my love, was lost. And I blame you all Tatsunokeks and associates for it, forever.

>>4065855
I think the funniest thing about it all is how popular Vshojo is over in China out of nowhere. Bilibili is covered in their clips.

>>4066405
Bugoid shillling has been out of control on 4chan for months. It's especially bad on /pol/ where the Changs constantly spam the same threads over and over about this or that totally amazing piece of civilian/military technology the CCP made.

>bullied moona and almost killed her career
>bullied mori now
i fucking hate coco, i hate her "irreverent" persona so fucking bad. She's not even extroverted, she gives the appearance of one because she's a bitch
i hope she retires

>>4113034
A very fun fact. Zhang bugtech typically works once in very specific situations. There's a reason why most of the world ignores west Taiwan, and it's not because they're scary. It's just shit, there's nothing to gain. Bugtech is used against their citizens, even their main service buggun is meant more so for urban combat.

>>4113179
Ok zhang

>>4066033
At the time china was like less than 3% of cover's income.

>shit talking Yogiri

I wish you all a slow and painful death.

>>4084430
>but they think everyone in the west is a dick sucking faggot queer trans.
I'm American and I think all American celebrities are dick sucking faggot queer trans.

>>4111999
You know she's from Taiwan right? You know she's not inside the great firewall, right?

Coomie

>>4099103
Wasn't that because the CN management released another statement? They were the ones that said let us manage this then fucked themselves over.....or was it part of their plan since they work with bilibili.

>>4099103
That because China partner gave advise ans told Yagoo to do it

>>4114133
Yeah, the CN management said they would handle the chinese side management released their own statement saying how Cover enforces the 1 China policy and how the actions of Coco and Haachama were unacceptable and thus were sent to the reeducation camp

>>4065855
Give up, it's impossible to touch this subject properly with this asshole-infested place as it is. Not being pro-Coco is a literal capital sin.

t. Zhilean

>>4068766
> Harassment was huge, ugly and horrible
Tatsunokeks are little bitches acting as the big dogs. I bet you a testicle that one time she cried was fake as fuck and orchestated with Kanata.

>>4072491
COCO took CIVIA away from me.

>>4114578
bros i miss civia so bad that dumb unicorn really lit up my world after a long day

>>4076407
>(whether it was on purpose or not is still up for debate)

I can gamble my literal, full liver that is was on absolute purpose. It's known that I'd die for it, but I know I'd end up with... An extra liver to sell on some black market, or for collection, yeah. I KNOW I'M RIGHT.

didnt one of them have multiple white bfs?

>>4115195
Yeah, why?

>>4115264
because that's hot if true

>>4115276
Well...enjoy that then.

>>4114661
See what I mean, bro? Maybe Coco DID do it to save Haachama's dummy ass, because I love the Chama too, but Civia. I cried like a manbitch legit at her last stream on Youtube.

>>4066287
>getting so triggered at the thought of cute anime girls saying dumb things on the internet makes use government power to harass and shut them down.
At this rate, it seems the only solution is glass every major Chinese city.

>>4066120
I saw that fucking stream from both Haachama and Coco's perspective. I still can't believe West Taiwan got so pissed for something so inoffensive.

>>4087725
>referring to the mainland shithole as West Taiwan.
god this needs to become a thing, fucking kek