/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

So does that last thread count as a meltdown, and if it does, who was melting down? I can't tell

>>40644106
>who was melting down?
everyone.

>>40644056
It is the front part of it. SC reading graph was normal but she had shit retention.

>>40644106
All me and my 500 smart fridges

What did we learn last thread, anon?

Did prophet Ibrahimu personally teach Mori the secret technique in Japan?

>/hlgg/ is full on homo mode
Damn

>>40643942
This is a perfectly looking graph you faggots. The moment someone stops playing games and goes to superchats people will leave. Are nijifags this retarded?

Good evening sisters, are you ready to start a meltdown again?

>>40643921
https://youtu.be/pM7ywhlJ3Hg

my cute wife

>>40644158
We love the Gotalu

>>40644071
ALL HEIL PECOCK!

>>40644158
jannies may delete your posts if it's a copypasted song.

>>40644176
Masha Allah Ibrahim, coming back from the dead just to teachs Mori.

>>40644158
Rangeban indog

Mel 8k Doya!

>>40643692
>>40643968
>They really are stealing nijien's audience
Sisters...I think you really should start worrying about it...
The point of HomoEN is not beating nijien males but stealing their audience

>>40644222
I reported it because the same song was spammed thrice within a few minutes

>Hoshiyomis brought the entire thread down just because some dudes made fun of Suisei
Fucking unhinged.

>>40644158
the homo era is starting

>>40644158
that leangate was nearly a year ago what the fuck

>>40644158
We should ban pekora in this thread. She just stole ina's gold. She's statpadding at this point.

>>40644106
35pees. It's always them.

>>40644129
It was 2 fucking am and she didn't stream on the weekend. How much are you gonna cope now?
Now take a look at IRyS's avg ccv curves. She moggs all of Niji En

>>40644249
(⃔ *`꒳´ * )⃕

>>40644158
Kingdom Hearts permissions when

>>40644129
>Lost less than 2k people over 2 hours
>HOLY SHIT TERRIBLE RETENTION
Stand back and watch the pros do it sister.

>>40644264
I agree.
t. hoshiyomi

>>40644296
>>40644129
Did Luxiem teach IRyS the secret technique of title baiting?

>>40644178
I thought homo discussion was ban there? Is the janitor not doing anything?

>>40644264
qrd?

>>40644355
That wasn't title bait though, retard.

>>40644264
I remember the first thing I learnt in /hlg/ was that hoshiyomi was the nousagi before nousagi

>>40644251
Did we ever figure out what it is that causes these graphs? Was it actually bots or is it that sisters listen to the streams on their phones in the background and then swap back in when they say something that grabs their attention?

>>40644356
Janies are cover interns

>>40644343
That's all genshin streams, you finish the gacha and nobody sticks around for the shit story

>>40644371

>>40644355
Man, how do you make it trough the day being this brain damaged?

>announce a new homo collab
>sisters are suddenly back in full force and shilling harder than during the new gen debuts
at this point you pathetic trannoids aren't even hiding the fact that you don't watch streams and don't care about this hobby other than pushing your mentally ill estrogen induced agenda.

>>40644386
fans reflect the streamer

>>40644249
I’m beginning to think that outside of Pekora, no one in JP has truly inclined personally, and rather, the fanbase itself has just gotten much bigger and more active so it’s giving off an impression that people are bigger than what they actually are. It’s like a fanbase mobilizing and moving from one to the next but in larger portions as time goes on.

Ok stop this stupid arguments and laugh at the retarded 'hot takes' from clip watchers and drama channel watchers.
(Context : A certain vtuber drama channel asked for viewers to submit their hot takes on vtubers)

It really is weird to see ENsharts talk about their garbage numbers in /#/ for the 110th time without any shame.

>>40644413
kek, ty

>>40644355
>Collab overlaps
>Did Luxiem teach IRyS the secret technique of title baiting
Naa but it seems she did teach you how to act like a retard. Because you are even more retarded tha her. Also I don't see any spikes here. You can do this with any stream btw if you remove the context but nijiniggers are good at shit posting. No surprise there

>>40644158
JP branch will get new members

>>40644355
I know Mysta title baits all the time sister, but that doesn't mean everyone else does it. Stop projecting.

>>40644440
Miko inclined. Suisei definitely inclined. Suisei has larger mindchair than Pekora and Pekora can never top her mindchair.

>>40644466
UPROAR 2

>>40644284
will we ever have another kino arc as the lean yab?

>>40644251
BASED.
Sisters try to claim the moral high ground, but they are LOSING THEIR MINDS over the UOH TOT Shota.

TwitterSanji is too woke now to give the sisters what they REALLY want. Time to come home.

Axel 5K get

>>40644355
I am sorry you Holofags have to deal with Nijiniggers

>>40644440
Marine, Miko, Subaru, and Suisei inclined as well

>>40644452
This is concentrated retardation on par with reddit

>>40644458
>Use an EN friendly HoloJP to shitpost
Last Samurai...

Since when does Mel get 8k+ CCV?

>mel
>kirby
>8k
what's this about

I dont remember Suisei having fans in early /hlg/, we mostly just made fun of her for not being able to dance

>>40644551
>Shitpost
Seethe about the truth.

>>40644386
>the first thing I learnt
It really is amazing how a couple of shitposters managed to create a meme the entire thread believed earnestly just because a huge influx of newfags happened to coincide with their latest target.

>>40644440
Marine,Lamy,Iroha,Korone,Choloe,Miko,Suisei is definitely inclining during 2022.

>>40644556
She has been inclining a lot lately, but this general was too busy circlejerking about EN3-tempus

>>40644458
Based Lui-tomo.

>>40644452
Thank you for this. It helps remind me that the same homobeggars plaguing this board are probably the same people

>ame plays geoguessr
>new arc where everyone plays it
trendsetter

>>40644452
>arguing with the same poster, in the same chain of youtube comments for one week straight
Mental illness, though I've seen longer.

>>40644556
>>40644571
It isn't that late and no one else is streaming

>>40644378
>>40644419
>>40644462
>>40644495
Real good numbers right there Mori, but where is the retention that holobros are so proud of?

>>40644355
I accept your concussion

>>40644158
I hope cover will hire whoever design aqua for future gen

>>40644571
No one else is streaming.

>>40644440

>>40644662
Tempus are.

>Mario Party collab with Mori
>Vesper got last
>Everyone waiting for graduation
>Sudden OFFICIAL suspension, first time ever in EN
>Oh no no no no.jpg
>Everyone rejoice, finally the homo menance is gone for good, and the boomer will be the first to fall
>It's only 2 weeks
>Endless shitposting during the 2 weeks, with people point to Rushia as an example of termination in the company
>2 weeks later, fucker is back
>The reason for suspension was because he was shitting on management
>He spent the 2 weeks living in the wood, burying rice, and bought a fucking spear JUST BECAUSE
>Why curse no work? Why he still there?
>Curse backfired
>Yugo from Niji got fucking assassinated by the company
>Nearly half of HoloEN get put out of commission with Ina and Gura vanished from the face of the Earth
>JP openly embrace Star, going as far as put them in the fucking official countdown show
>The kicker: Turns out, JOP doesn't care about that AT ALL, and only a portion of unicorn is deranged enough to boycott
>HoloJP number actually INCREASED, with multiple 100k streams at the start of the year
Reminds me to never trust any "Unicorn" takes /here/ ever again

>>40644635
Is this guy genuinely this retarded or is he just baiting all of us?
I am actually confused guys

>>40644643
My point is that everyone will have weird graph, niji or holo.

>>40644249

>>40644695
who?

>>40644703
a little of both looks like

>>40644681
>rest of the shitters elevated by Pekora collabs on their channel
okay, and?

>>40644178
it's over

>>40644681
Do you have the full graph for HoloEN since 2020?

>>40644695
Why would nips care?

>writing general

God the sister Discord is working overtime today. I guess the new Homo wave did worse than they thought it would.

>>40644575
Wrong. She absolutely had fans back then, some people were trying to saviorfag her.

>>40644702
How does the last point have anything to do with the homos at all?

>>40644705
How is the IRyS graph low though??
I don't see any spikes here unlike most the Niji graphs. And IRyS streams are like 4-5 hours. Obviously people will go to sleep eventually. It's not like we are getting heartbeats in our graphs

>>40644158
hmmmmmmm

>>40644753
CBDCT is universal, language doesn't matter

>>40644440
>the fanbase itself has just gotten much bigger
>It’s like a fanbase mobilizing and moving from one to the next but in larger portions as time goes on.
Welcome to the evil that is The Box, newfag-kun

>>40644556
>>40644571
I remember that particular Kirby to be extremely buff for JPs. Also 「Sour Party」being good lately.

Should we exclude the homos from this thread??

>>40644702
>Every other vtubing group turns to shit
>HoloJP stays the tried and true CGDCT course and inclines massively at a time when everyone else is cratering
We won

>>40644205
Once again I implore you to lock her in a bedroom with Miko. You wouldn't deny them that happiness, would you?

Numberbros are the threads always this bad at this hour? I woke up early and I'm regretting my decision to look.

>>40644823
they are already offtopic

>>40644575
>not being able to dance
Today I will remind them.
https://files.catbox.moe/z0re4o.webm

>>40644779
But not all nijiEN special graphs (the ones that peak early then follow by constant decline) have Z. Also conveniently ignore Mori's ECG graph early in the thread.

>>40644777
Because unicorns /here/ swore by all that is holy that they are the "Silent majority" and the based JP Chads will NOT stand for the slander that was putting Star in a fucking official event and will even boycott Hololive if that's the case?

>>40644777
The part with the stars x holo collab songs was one of the most replayed highlights of the entire concert

>>40644823
Create a little league numbers thread

>>40644158
Aqu-tan My Dearly Beloved

>holo vs holo vs holo vs holo
Did you retards finally fell for the psyops or are they still

>>40644875
We're getting raided by the /mans/ sisters because they're angry that Tempiss 2.0 flopped

>>40644841
So you're telling me adding Star doesn't ruined the fable "CGDCT course" then?

Why is Cover still so fucking scared of China at this point? I just finished watching Mumei's vod and she mentioned there is a shit ton of restrictions on what they can do on different continents.

>>40644882
>>40644891

>>40644898
so with that are you saying we should exclude nijisanji too?

>>40644898
>>40632826

>>40644662
I would cry if Mel got on the tally.

>>40644575
She did, but that's the funniest thing. Most of suiseiposting was for fun, but it still managed to mindbreak some anons. For example, the entire reason the Pride of Hololive became a meme is because one of the shitters of Hololive getting called the Pride by Fubuki was inherently funny and it could be easily used sarcastically or ironically. (And why it then kinda died when she became one of the First Army members.) Yet several anons were mindbroken by it so that to this day you can see people specifically reference it while seething about Hoshiyomi who believe their oshi is better than everyone else. Old archives can be pretty funny reading because you run across someone seething about Suisei being praised excessively, and then you scroll back to check what Hoshiyomi were writing and it's the exact same things others are saying about their own oshis in-between their posts.

nice thread

>>40644922
>>40644933

>>40644933
>unicorns were screaming about how the views would drop when the stars came on
>didn't drop, stayed stable and even inclined a bit

>>40644875
Usually not this bad, but Vesper is streaming and Ina beat their new debuts, which gets the sisters going.

>>40644906
>Pekora won global gold
>Ina won cripple gold
>Suddenly is holo vs holo
yeah, is another nijinig time

>>40644880
Love my dorky sister wife

>>40644880
6 bullets. More than enough to kill anything that moves.

>>40644958
I miss Suisei danceposting

This Homo vs no Homo wars is unironically killing the EN community. Not surprising is that the majority of homo support is on Reddit and clip tard channels because they don’t watch streams anyways

>>40644875
New homo collab announced. Trannies are in full force to fight the evil incel culture before fucking off and never watching another stream.
>>40644882
You're mentally ill and you don't even watch or care about Hololive.

>>40644440
what are you smoking? All JP holos that consistently stream have been getting higher numbers

>>40644995
Tempiss isn't part of Hololive no matter how hard you try to push it

>>40644879
>1 Mori graph vs 70% of Luxiem graphs
Ok, I am saying that Mori was using bots in that stream
Then do you agree 70% of Luxiem and Niji En special streams are bots?

>>40644601
I'm a nousagi, but even I can recognize that Rui-nee has some charm for a hag.
>>40644613
>New arc
Retarded EOP newfag.

>unicorn
>unicorn
>unicorn
>unicorn
>unicorn
>unicorn
SHUT THE FUCK UP about imaginary fucking creatures.

Now that it's post-JP-tally hours.
Anyone has the reason with the post about why SCanon stopped posting dailies superchats? Yesterday night, I was arguing with a Luxiem sister that said that >we stopped because Vox was mogging everyone, but I know that isn't true because SCanon gave his reasoning somewhere, but I can't find it.

>>40644922
Homo JP is out of picture and their fans aren't obnoxious like EN side.

>>40644575
My impression of her at the start is that she is trying too hard, much like what Koyori is doing right now but worse.

>>40644875
The majority of Homo supporters are Taiwan and Indo fags unironically. Of course their homo pushing Agenda would be more active at this time.

>>40645045
Where did that anon mention tempiss?

>>40645072
>out of the picture
>featured prominently to 200,000 people who loved their performance

>>40645068
No, everyone who disagrees with me is this particular exaggerated stereotype (except when we're talking about numbers, then they are an irrelevant miniscule fraction)

>>40645048
If you agree Mori uses bots then yes.
Mori is the biggest Holo en after Gura

>>40645068
I didn't really get this chapter when I first read it but I understandu now thanks to this board

>>40644875
Yes
Comeback in 4 hours if Ina stream

>>40644891
Wrong, all the parts with Suisei in it are the most replayed ones, doesn't matter if it's got homos in it or not. People came in for Suisei and not stars. Get your facts straight, retarded homobeggar.

>>40645156
>Thread shitting on homobeggars
>"wtf guys don't do holo vs holo"

>>40644984
>didn't drop, stayed stable and even inclined a bit
It came to a fucking standstill and inclined slightly when Suisei appeared, Suisei who everyone knows always tend to be the highest point in CCV whenever she appears in a 3d live

>>40645154
Exposed to 200k people and no-one gives a flying fuck about them still. So much for exposure amirite?

>>40645166
Thanks for atleast owning upto your shit anon. Btw we all hate Mori here, so you can shit on her all you want

>>40644933
So ... Uh .. where's the drop?
You fuckers promised a drop

>>40645218
Read the comments underneath the video, lots of people who had never watched Stars before now know of them and are hoping there's more joint concerts in the future.

>>40644178
Nijification....

>>40644952
Why?

>>40645048
Yes, we can agree to agree, better than agree to disagree.

>>40645071
He's fucking dead anon. Got some kind of medical problem that forced him to replace his blood every week. He explained that shit when i speculated the reason was his oshi was Rushia and she is gone.

>>40645154
Uyu is probably going to drop down to 2 view status soon
https://youtu.be/Jlmv-b9z7hI

>>40644875
Yes, global has invaded this general and dthey don't plan to leave

>>40645250
Why don't they just watch them stream? Then they wouldn't need to wait for joint concerts

>>40645214
>t-there's no holo vs holo, just stars vs holo
>>40644458
retard

>>40645250
And yet they still won't watch their streams.

>>40644508
something might come out with the clown and vshojo I'd bet.

>>40645068
>spergs out and writes novels about how much they hate males, will not forgive opr forget any male interaction, and harbors violent thoughts about women not being in his control
An incel unicorn
>doesn't watch mixed collabs since that isn't his thing
Also an incel unicorn

>>40645250
It doesn't matter if they dont even watch their regular content though. Hell, they dont even bother subbing.

>>40645269
I see, do you have the post number?

>>40645266
Why are you showing me perfectly normal graphs for your argument though?
Is this your first time here

>>40644984
You're a dumb retard who thinks "not dropping" is good

year of the rabbit

>>40645250
Anon, you're assuming this thread understand Japanese
That's a hard task, even for /jp/

>>40644898
Banish EN faggots there yes

>>40644435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxyXbfD6xrM
>>40644880

>>40645215
Still didn't drop, guess all the unicorns who hate the stars are in the small minority

>>40644397
That explains why they found out about me and their stupid gaslighting

>>40645289
There's the usual shitting on ENfags for being retarded reddit cucks but nothing out of the ordinary. Itt's not "Holo vs Holo" because EN is largely Niji adjacent culturally and has more fans that like Nijishit than they do Hololive stuff

>>40644898
>>40644823
Just make this a Hololive (Females) and Nijisanji number thread.

>>40645201
who is santa?

>>40645242
The one thing we can say for sure is that it stopped growing during the shared part. If you wanna speculate on that it could mean that some people left as others joined, but I'll just stick to thinking that tourists who aren't into men skipped the thing when they saw who were performing.

>>40645215
>Suisei who everyone knows always tend to be the highest point in CCV whenever she appears in a 3d live
Also Suisei who did content with Star with little to no repercussion

>>40644343
kek

>>40645250
>lots of people who had never watched Stars before now know of them and are hoping there's more joint concerts
Uhhh, isn't that kinda bad? wasn't the main reason is to make them watch stars instead of getting to watch the GIRLS with the BOYS?

>>40645382
Make it a JP numbers thread only.

>>40645218
Keep moving those goalposts pajeet.

Who needs EN3 with superstars like this?

>>40645262
It happens so infrequently. The last time was more than 2 months ago.

>>40645319
Just search "SC anon lost his oshi" or "SCanon lost his oshi". There should be 2 thread with those words, the latest one is where he explained his shit.

Homos just teased that they are going to collab with females in japan. Sisters I need your guesses

>>40645382
Hololive is females

>>40645382
No more numbers threads
Make janny create a daily sticky at the end of each day with only the podium

>>40645288
>>40645303
>>40645310
Because they want to watch the boys have fun with the girls? Duh? Do you guys like have learning disabilities or something?

>>40645250
Yet stars subs barely move at all despite that

>>40645464
look at those angles

>>40645321
I like the Holotalk with Pekora better than the one with Kanata.

>>40645447
>pajeet
Keep projecting, SEAnigger. No goalpost was moved.

>>40644771
they could always, you know, watch their streams

>/ahoy/ is dead again

>>40645482
I actually watched the stream, and all they've mentioned is that they have tempus collabs for their 6-month anniversary and another L4D collab with tempus2

>>40645482
? Vesper just said that he wants to kill himself

>>40645494
Jannies should just purge numbers threads.
Imagine giving a shit about a stat no sponsor gives a shit about. It’s just unabated schizophrenic posts nowadays.

Well, /#/? Did you love the Tempus debuts as much as T-chan?

>>40645498
Ok, nice run, but you're really too obvious now.

>>40645550
They don't want to watch the homos they want to ruin Hololive for the incels

>>40645482
my money is on fubuki and matsuri, since they have interacted before( kinda )

>>40645560
/ahoy/fags were too busy raiding /#/ and /hlgg/ to keep their thread alive.

can the fujo go be a retard somewhere else

>>40645498
So you want a bunch of fans who will only watch cross gender collabs then fuck off and not support solo content? Not even watch, sub, or donate to the boys?

>>40644933
According to the schizos here the very existence of homos killed EN. Here you have homos in one of HoloLive's biggest events and all it did was temporarily slow the incline. JP then proceeded to have a run of 100k streams in the following days. Either the affect of the homos on the EN decline is drastically overstated, or despite stereotypes the EN audience has way more unicorns than the JP one.

>>40645560
It got invaded during the collab, and Marine is offline today. No need to bring up the thread until she's back.

>>40645348
Based as fuck.

>>40644823
That's already the case since them reaching the tally will happen once every year at best.

>>40645498
>femoid lingo
I want to sex some fujos now my dick is hard

>>40645584
>Is a woman
>Likes Tempus

So..you guys just want a pedophile hugbox board?
Your stupid whore is semiretired, this place would be crickets without actual content to talk about.

>>40645599
they are pirates, it's in their blood to raid.

Reine is mogging the blue fag btw.

>>40645584
that tranny is still posting as a cover employee on that private fan discord??

>>40645250
Ah yes the same retards that are so happy that Holo girls are finally giving attention to the stars but don’t realize the same girls been doing since 3 yrs ago.

>Gen 6
Homo supporter doko? Laplus only wants e celeb cock
>Gen 5
You had a chance at Botan and the begging made her get closer to her genmates and treat idol reps serious instead.
>Gen 4
2 of the most unicorn friendly chuubas are from here. Towa also only wants eceleb not holo stars
>Gen 3
AHAHAHA

>>40645584
go back discornigger, nobody care about your opinion here

>>40645596
Anon is just baiting. They've only talked about anni and starsen collabs

>>40644452
I truly wonder what someone who's opinion is "council sucks EXCEPT for Kronii" wants out of a streamer.

>>40645668
do you have a morbid obesity fetish?

>>40645695
Yup

>>40645710
>gen5
that would be polka, kinda, she had some streams that she talked that she watch some streams and their hologra

Grim

>>40645354
still stagnated you fucking retard and thats what matters here

>>40645710
Gen 5 has Aloe tho

>>40645857
Aloe would've just been another Towa.

>>40644752

>>40645710
Gen 5 has polka. But she's like her fan more than Homo.

>>40644485
natural incline baby!

>>40645354
It did actually drop. The number of current viewers leaving matched new viewers coming into the streaming. It recovered when Suisei started and went back on the incline once the homos fucked off

>first solo stream after debut
>less than 2k
>Tempiss members all had at least 10k
>from the designated Vox killer
holy fucking shit what a disaster

>>40645857
Kiara should have been Aloe.
AAAAAAAAHHHHHH !!

>>40645833
ok, what am i supposed to see here?

>>40645833
>4 hours zatsudan privated
What kind of yab did Axel made?

>>40644485
post the bleeding too

>>40645710
What made Botan open to collabs in the beginning? Polka is the only one I know who is interacting with them.

>>40645393
>I'll just stick to thinking that tourists who aren't into men skipped the thing when they saw who were performing.
>Tourist, and not unicorns, are the one who tabbed out
Come on anon, at least be realistic

>Nene is streaming
Now I can tolerate this thread

Does Towa hate Stars?

>>40645940
NTA but the only thing Botan ever said about holostars was that she would consider a collab if they asked her.

>>40645710
Why has "collabing with males is bad" moved to "collabing with Stars is bad"? If anything collabing with Stars should be considered safer since they're in the same company and need to follow the same rules.

>>40645907
tempus 1 doesn't let the new gen the ccv

>>40645989
Indifferent.

>>40645498
Women seriously are only attracted to men if other girls like them, crazy

>>40645968
Fucking liar

>>40645989
towa only loves fallen stars

>>40646018
Just like men

>>40645669
If you like males just watch Nijisanji. They have everything you could ask for. You don't like hololive if you like males, no reason to pretend.

>>40646032
suisei goni

>>40646019
She's showing off her loli forms right now

>>40645695
Isn't it a public server

>>40645710
Rushia for gen 3, get fucked ahahah!!!

>>40646032
gomimati

>>40645880
Thanks. Seems like Gura and Ina mattered less and less to the average. Make sense because they streamed less. Do you have the break down of Myth and Council or the individual girls?

>>40645584
I just realized T-chan stood for Tempus-chan the whole time

>>40646067(me)
Wait no I messed up...>>40645710

>>40645950
I guess I might underestimate how many true unicorn fans they have. I don't care about stars, but I didn't turn off my TV during their part.

>>40645940
She used to tell her fans that there was nothing wrong with her collabing with males and even did some FPS male collabs with Towa at some points. Problem is that males were trying to flirt with them (mainly towa) while she was actually trying to game so she stopped doing it. Maybe they actually sucked at fps and that was the main reason, but she stopped

>people mentioning polka
Ah yes the bff of Yagoo would throw them a like or retweet because Yagoo asked her too. Coke back when she drops gen5 to shill the homos properly

>>40646040
Not in the slightest. Popularity and job is literally bottom of the list when it comes to making a girl attractive

>>40646013
Stars are not safer, it encourages integration. One stars collab is worse than 10 outside male collabs.

>>40645991
>if they asked her.
So it was never gonna to happen

>>40645782
She's the only one in Council I'm able to relate to and I like her attitude towards life, streaming and her fanbase even if she sucks at doing the typical streamer things

>>40645991
Oh, must've been a long time ago, or she's like Towa and says she would and then never delivers on it.

This Shinri guy definitely studied how Vesper does his zatsus. He's got potential.

>>40646198
>Oh, must've been a long time ago
Two years ago now if my hazy memory serves correctly. Ancient.

>>40644575
lol wut, Suisei had army of Hoshiyomi back in early /hlg/. And also shitload of memes about her. I bet newfags don't even know about FamChiki posting.

>>40645950
I can see that being the case, 2 years ago when i just discovered this hobby and was also shitting on parasocial folks. I too would tab out, there's something uncanny about males chuuba at that time for me.

>>40645880
SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

>>40646126
Polka collabs with Peanuts-kun. Though I'm 99% sure he's on everyone's okay list the same way YAGOO is.

>>40646044
>Constant mixed gender collabs
>Peee peee poo poo ZOOMER humor

Yeah no thanks, Cover is way stricter at controlling the boys than the Discord Groomer general at Niji.
I just don’t want crossbranch collabs outside of song covers.

Can Ame/Kronii/Bae fuck off already?
No one needs to saviorfag these guys, I’d anything they’re driving away the Fujo whales with this unprofessional shit.

>>40646174
>Life - Hates it
>Streaming - Hates it
>Fanbase - Hates it
I guess she would be relatable to some.

>>40646115
That's because this "mythical unicorn" that will immediately drop out at the mere presence of boys is a strawman.
Matsuri reclined heavily from collabing WITH GIRLS, because it was APEX spam and the girls were from outside the box.

There is a HUGE segment of the audience that only cares about their favorites and the other girls in their immediate circle.
As soon as lots of "outsiders" get brought in they get turned off and start skipping those particular streams (or stream moments).

>>40646222
He's got potential to hit 1.5k average CCV in world-record time

>>40646126
>she ignored their flirt because they were bad at FPS
i can save her
>i'm bad at FPS games
i can't save her

>>40646126
that towa botan bora cpt (male) didnt have any flirting and it was her last notable collab with males, it’s much more likely she just doesn’t care for it

>>40645710
It is no coincidence that the gen that stayed furthest away from holostars is the most successful gen.

>>40646235
>A FUCKING NAKIRIGUMI.

>>40645950
what about tourists (to a lesser extent) AND unicorns were tabbing out?

>>40646273
Pekora is gonna collab with Machina X Flayin for HoloFes6 chudcel, just wait and see

>>40645068
>Mawaru mawaru mawaruuna Mawaru >mawaru mawaruunaruna
>Mawaru mawaru mawaruuna
>Mawaru mawaru chikyuu wo guruguru >Matataku ma ni machijuu ga Mawaru mawaru atama kurakura
>Maku ga agari matsuri no hajimari
>Maware maware Mayu wo hiraitara
>Guruguru guruguru mawatte
>Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte
>Minna guruguru gururu mawatte (motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte
>Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto)
>Guruguru guruguru mawatte Zutto guruguru gururu mawaruuna (yaa) >Guruguru guruguru waratte Motto guruguru waratte (motto motto)
>Guruguru guruguru odotte Minna guruguru gururu odotte (motto)
>Guruguru guruguru sou yatte Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto)
>Guruguru guruguru waratte Zutto guruguru gururu mawaruuna (yaa) >Mawari sugitara sekai no kurayami ga >Minna wo tsutsumu kyoufu ranbu >Daijoubu mamoru kara Guruguru chikyuu wa
>Mawari hajime ikuokunen Itsu made mo kono mama Mawaru minna ni shiawase wo…
>Mawari tsuzuku mawaruuna Masu masu masu shakai ga guruguru Ma~ …are? (waa)
>Guruguru guruguru mawatte Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Minna guruguru gururu mawatte (motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Zutto guruguru gururu mawaruuna (yaa) >Guruguru guruguru waratte Motto guruguru waratte (motto motto)
>Guruguru guruguru odotte Minna guruguru gururu odotte (motto)
>Guruguru guruguru sou yatte Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto) >Guruguru guruguru waratte Zutto guruguru gururu mawaruuna (yaa) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Minna guruguru gururu mawatte (motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Motto guruguru mawatte (motto motto) >Guruguru guruguru mawatte Zutto guruguru gururu mawaruuna nna~
>(Guruguru guruguru mawatte motto) (guruguru guruguru mawatte nna~) >Guruguru mawaru mawaruuna! (yaa)

>>40646222
>ah
Nice dogwhistle right there Vox killer.

>>40646126
Wait, when did she and Towa play with men? Except for Tower herself.

>>40646251
That's something only someone who doesn't watch her member streams would think

>>40646258
Do you not realise that graph means atleast 20k people left?

>>40646258
Go and look at the FBK homo collabs retard and compare the numbers between that and her normal streams, then come back to us

>>40646154
Exactly.
>>40646198
It was soon after debut. She also said that she received lots of FPS invitations from outside the box but wasn't really interested in doing those. Only one she's done in 2 years is playing BF with Towa and her friends.

>>40646235
this one is ancient.

>>40645682
Based

>>40646250
>I just don’t want crossbranch collabs outside of song covers.
Based sister!

>>40646115
This >>40646258
But also, look at who performed with Star
Like, no one would DARE to make fun of Soratomos if they want to watch their oshi, even if it's with Star
Same goes with Friend, AZKi, and Festival
I have a funny feeling that the one who tabbed out WERE unicorns, but they are unicorns for other girls (Remember, this is an official event)

>>40646343
https://youtu.be/VgC_6YwrU9o
CPT is like the safest possible outsider male to play with and there was no flirting

>>40646272
Maybe she just don't want play serious FPS anymore.

>>40645584
I hate her so much

>>40644880

>>40646373
God you newfags are insufferable.

>>40646391
Bora...

>>40646395
i agree on this, only really competitively you have to play with males so she just won’t ever again

>>40646126
Polka chats in stars' streams though. She interscted a bit and got gamma to draw her.

>>40646250
>they’re driving away the Fujo whales
this is actually true

>>40646349
That is part of my point, the only difference being it is a more encompassing point
It is not just that they're boys, but that they're from "somewhere else" not inside the box and hence, the audience will utterly reject them.
You could replace them with Kotone (a common Sora collab partner) or "Mana Renewal" (nee EarthChan), an old Moona collab partner and the result would be the same
>the audience would opt out because they're not really willing to put up with those

>>40646126
>flirting with botan

I see there are hag enjoyers in the E-celeb scene too

>>40644880
>>40646404
S-so she can't dance?

>>40646326
Because you're assuming tourist get filtered out that much by males, which they're not
Remember, tourists are lazy asf, they clocked it, keep the stream on, then fuck off

>>40644440
Roboco....

>>40646269
During my depression arc I made it to Pred in Apex. It helped me get out of my depression and when I was happier I stopped playing it, as all healthy people do.

>>40646350
See >>40646446, I am not saying the audience doesn't get turned off by the boys, I am say they do, and not just because they're boys but because they don't belong at all

StarsEN box with overlaps

>>40645584

>>40646446
Well sure if it was a bunch of random niji girls it would have stagnated too but the reason they're not part of the box is because they're dudes

>>40646439
where is the collab then

>>40646404
>Suisei can't dance for shit
>Mori can't dance for shit
No wonder ...

>>40646391
6 timestamp comments for 6 languages. Also the Korean girl is still there too.

>>40646373
>I have a funny feeling that the one who tabbed out WERE unicorns
There aren't this many unicorns that would tab out and cause a 20k depression in the projected numbers.

It is the regular Holo audience that is FULL IN into the box and FULL OUT when outsiders and brought in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vJ_SlqrgEc

>>40646040
not how it works, women do not saviorfag they do "i can fix him" with bad boys

>>40645584
How do i join this discord and make her say nigger?

>>40646391
>No flirting
They lost Botan when they weren’t gaming seriously. Botan was going ham while the others were just chilling zatsudaning

>>40646446
It depends, Mito appearing on Suisei's concert made it peak higher than when it was just inotac

>>40646449
the choreography is actually on point, it just looks terrible with just one person, and even worse if it's a 3D model instead of a person https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqFNKRCFI9w
go to around 2:50

>>40644440
Mio inclined from 5k to 8k to 10k median over the course of two years.
I was there for it.

>>40646417
She's happier now. She can stream wirt men as much as she wants, and when she wants to be with girls she has her own group in her corpo.

My cute wife

>>40646499
Isn't this just normal niji numbers?

>>40646603
Ages like fine wine

>>40646250
>they’re driving away the Fujo whales with this unprofessional shit.
ironically this is true, just like in the girls cases where boys collab anger the fanbase. Hologirls collab in Stars could potentially anger the fujos

>>40646580
the only reason botan joined in the first place was because it wasn’t all too serious anon

>>40646603
Too small. She's got big haggin' tiddies.

>>40645907
Drunk Nowa is stealing all the view

>>40646499
How's the fujo bait guy so far? I can see him inclining by bringing in a new audience (chinks).

>>40646655
>Hologirls collab in Stars could potentially anger the fujos
Kobo....

>>40646595
The dude part suck ass too. Like there's almost no reason for him to be there other than... to be there. At least come down and break dance or sth.

All the girls past 25yo should kill themselves

>>40646250
>outside of song covers.
But that's even less cute than a collab

>>40644452
The "like" system on comments is inherently destructive to proper discussion.
Shit like those likes when posted /here/ would simply get told to take their meds or get called a schizo. But when a schizopost has 10 or 100 "likes", no matter where it came from (bots or humans) it gaslights you into thinking "does this schizo looking comment actually have a point?" instead of just ignoring it.

Patra...this hag...so fucking good...

>>40646174
i can understand liking her over the others, but would you really say they "suck"

>>40646625
yes

I see too many PekoGura fanarts lately. Is that the way the cumpedos cope since their lazy shart doesn't want to stream?

>>40646625
Yup, but without the occasional tourists stream reaching 20k, with half of the overlap and all at the expense of HoloEN.
A great fucking success.

Where is IRyS? HoloEN could use some Hope right now.

>>40646724
>it gaslights you into thinking "does this schizo looking comment actually have a point?"
No it doesn't. For me, it is the exact opposite.
Whenever a retarded take has a significant amount of likes it harden my resolve on how that is not only a retarded take, but an artificial too being pumped up by external actors.
Think of it as some sort of "JunsGang" in reverse, pumping up instead of driving down

>>40645921
That's the one where he mentioned how management was trying to craft his character. Basically JP wanted him to act seiso and idol like but he didn't like that so EN management said he can just act however he wants. Basically was giving out too many management secrets that zatsu.

>males dont cause a drop in viewers
This is the latest Fubuki collab I could on her channel and the others are 12 streams that occurred around the same time.

>>40646785
Keep seething

>>40646780
It's year of the rabbit dumbass

>>40646250
Sis did you just miss the nowa stream? also the groomer axel was seen chatting in some indie vsinger stream
You're take is alright but tempiss ain't it

Laplus should be back by Holofes, right?

>>40646697
Yes, she's got some female haters for that exact reason.

>>40646737
Bae sucks.
Fauna is decent.
Mumei really depends on the day.

>>40646785
The turned holoen into nijien great? Why? The lost everything good about them to do it. En3 is just going to be used as collab whores to incline these guys.

>>40646235
honestly i think i just ignored the suisei posters, obviously the shitposting was in response to them but i just didnt care about her until we started doing it because she was irrelevant at the time, kinda like when heimin got rowdy

>>40646692
He has already chastised the chat for spamming the pregnant emote and pretty much laid out the line that he's just there for comfy vibes. Though obviously that can always change.

>>40646878
Y-Yeah

>>40646825
She is planning to stream today.

oh boy if you numberfag the last thing you want is a male in your oshis live because the numbers get fucked

>>40645242
People watching on TVs will just mute, so they still get counted as viewers.
Only people watching on PCs or Laptops can tab out - causing the stall.
RIP mobile users though, they probably still muted.

>>40646849
>A year ago
Isn't this also near the buffest period of Foob too? With shinny hunt ended, 30k median befor CCVID

>>40646724
Ok but Kronii’s and Ame had multiple comments against the homos some even into the 300’s before they got deleted because it was anti homo

>>40646580
Sadly Botan is competitive af and that's hot

>>40646078
Only have this. Don't think chart anon has gotten around to individual girls for december yet

>>40646439
>chats in stars' streams
in *a stars stream. singular. and only one time. So this is a bit of a stretch

>>40645242
Retard. There would have been a constant flow of people joining, thousands per minute. Why did the graph not go up?
Because just as many left.

>>40646943
World's a fucking joke now

>>40644702
> Mario Party collab with Mori
> StarsEN and HoloEN both included
> Vesper suspended for two weeks
> 80% of the girls take breaks causing stream drought
> No EN3
> Homo2 instead
> New homos are faggots instead of brotubers
> Curse is still in effect, Mori killed the entirety of HoloEN

>>40646078
>Thanks. Seems like Gura and Ina mattered less and less to the average.
After 30 days without streaming they fall out of the 30 days average chart for obvious reasons

>>40646954
What are you trying to say?

>>40646499
that new guy has 12 streams scheduled this week

>>40647028
Dont point out the truth anon, they've got nothing else at this point.

Are we gonna do the retarded old
>all gachikoi are unicorns and parasocial means no males
Timeloop again?

>>40647019
Everyone is declining. The fad is over in the west. Just focus on JP

>>40647104
>give me attention I have too much estrogen

>>40646724
>The "like" system on comments is inherently destructive to proper discussion.
Because people who made those sites don't want "Proper discussion" anon
They want "personalized echo chambers"

>>40647104
>views start dropping
>shitposting stops

>>40647055
Arnold...

>>40645989

>>40647130
Cope, JP is a dead market and EN is the future of vtubing.

Tally anon is a tacuckdachi who hates elves.

>>40646845
EN management is setting them up to fail.

>>40647104
It all boils down to do people like the content your pushing or not. If they don't like it they will leave on their own.

>>40646943
Well, on one hand, bye bye numbers
On the other hand, uh, I would kneel if he can keep that up

>>40645550

>>40647159

After looking at this thread no wonder En management hijacked HoloEn before Gura got full NO MALES idea in the En branch like gen3 did with JP.

I wouldn’t even doubt that management gave her some paid vacation or something to just leave while they pushed them out lmao. Too bad her leaving ment majority of chumbuds left as well and killed EN #s.

Holy fucking shit is this the latest sister cope? That the NY concert numbers didn't recline into total oblivion once the Stars appeared?
If anything, they finally had their long awaited spotlight in front of 150k+ people, did their solo numbers change? Last I checked Astel is still a mid 3views shitter.

>>40645989
She got mad that YAGOO supported the stars in Apex tourneys only to threaten Startend with immediate graduation if they made the Stras look bad. That's why they threw.

>>40647104
Nazi bar analogy anon

>>40646126
What? She only collabed once with Towa and the FPS box and there was no flirting there. Link to the stream you're talking about?

>>40645584
On positive side we know the only source of Western feedback cover has

>>40647218
>is this the latest sister cope
Yes, also bringing up Suisei, Fubuki and Polka now too.
Despite, evidence showing that they're a drag on even Fubuki.
>>40646849

is she okay

>>40647194
More like retarded boomer nip management doesn't understand the EN market and is killing EN with their stupid attempts to make the EN girls seiso, luckily the boys don't need to follow JP's downright stupid as fuck ideas.

>>40647131
It's a genuine phenomenon I see people making associations and trying to change the definitions of things to fit a narrative. I do not like it since it takes out a lot of nuance and makes discussion black and white.

>>40646878
If she's still alive then yeah

>>40644452
Vtubers should unionize though. Much easier to fight a shitty management when you can call on a Union lawyer.

Also, if you stop and think about it, co-ops are made for streamers. And because they come the closest to that (unfortunately being American prevents them from making smart economic choices) I have some affection for VShojo despite never watching them as it's not my type of content.

>>40645824
Homogra is pretty great, JP homos should stick to writing scripts

>>40647064
>another mario party collab coming as well

>>40647263
Polka??

>>40647267
probably not
even her RM is radio silence

>>40647247
Not sure how that fits this case. Towa and Matsuri still have gachikoi so that pretty much invalidates those associations.

>>40647267
>got kicked from her RM group
probably prepping the rope

>>40645479
I found it.
If some sister tells you that >we stopped posting the daily SCs list because >we were butthurt about Vox and Luxiem topping the list, just point them to this post >>26354639

>>40646439
>>40647028

>>40646825
In bed with me.

>>40647267
She looks happy.

>>40645071
1. Merchanon dropped Holo merch numbers for a couple of weeks when there was a bug Cover's website that could be used to track actual merch numbers.
This resulted in everyone /here/ finally realizing that merch is where the big money is at (with some actual numbers, unlike the nijicope version).
2. Coincidentally SCanon got into some medical issue and slowed down posting to be only occasional.
3. Rushia gets executed soon after, leading to the "girl in SC #1 is cursed!" rrat.
4. Chloe was on track to pass literally everyone else in the SC tally within the span of a month, but she moved most of her SC farming stuff to mengen, resulting in inconsistent recordable numbers while still knowing that she was earning the same as before (I miss Daily Chloeposter).

These are the main reasons that this thread stopped giving a shit about SCs.

>>40646825
No Hope. Only GRIM

>>40647341
Are you unaware of how nips deal with unions? Actualty, they deal with unions exactly like North American companies do
>they'll shut your branch down and salt the earth to make sure nothing ever grows there anymore
Corporate vtubers are contractors. They are provided the tools for their job and a contract detailing the obligations the company has towards them and the obligations they have towards the company.
Neither side has ANY leverage outside what's written and both sides either agree on how to deal with their obligations or part ways

The only thing an union would achieve here would be to shut corporates entirely outside of that market. The end result would be exactly the same of the "permissions for english localized games", companies won't touch them because they would have to abide by their unions rules, so they just wither and die because there are less taxing alternatives.

I’m gonna be honest. I used to think Luxiemfags and Salome posters were the worst thing this thread ever had and how much they shit it up, but homo haters are unironically becoming the worst thing this thread has had in a really long fucking time. Holy fucking christ man.

The extent some of these retards go to, just to try and hammer down on 2k ccv streamers? Like dude who gives a FUCK. The most >we do is make light jokes about all the Niji shitters, no one cares to invest their day talking about streams that get sub 2k. But no, with Tempus you HAVE to write a giant thesis explaining your hatred and why they’re horrible and this and that.

God fucking damn man I just want to go back and talk about my oshis being cute and how streams have been. This invasion is so annoying I don’t even feel like being here half the time now. It goes on ALL DAY

>>40647426
RIP SCanon, he was a cool guy ;_;7

>>40647539
>makes up narrative
>plays the victim
never change homokeks

Some pretty good clip views from Ina's stream yesterday.