/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Not-usual OP coming here with a crucial timnas update

After that /nijiID/ defeat, the system has changed once more, now we're back at 4 key players just like picrel

Also I'm officially opening our musyawarah for everything VTL4
>Wanna add new players? ikuzo!
>Wanna model updates? ikuzo!
>Wanna new chants? ikuzo!
>New anthems and goalhorns? ikuzo!
>Wanna train yourself into the next STY? LFG!!

As always check the team and league wiki for more infos
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//warkop/
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vt/_League_4

>>40515186
I forgot to add the sourceposting if you guys wanna help me with models
https://rentry.org/p8ger
there's a surprise for that one anon who wants more L2D lookalike models there

>>40515186
To be honest, I want the manager to purge the one that doesn't stream to make way for some new local chuubas. So, that means Drama Mastermind and Anjing Gawean are out. The double representation one is also on the list, so Le Pineapple Residents and Si Otan are out. Also, are Unitychads and El Kontole still a thing?

>>40517191
>Cupang finally has a proper L2D model
Nice.

>>40527435
>Unitychads and El Kontole still a thing?
>Windah?
prob no
>MuseID?
They just added 10 chuubas into M.I.A so def still our unitychad
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxWKMgTpwnrA6vQ4MjSkO5KOyx4uWUQe7I
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxaBY_gJX-w5i88r85DGkmXnpGt97bp4du

>>40515186
Here's my suggestions
>OUT
Drama mastermind (inactive)
Anjing gawean (inactive)
Le pinneaple (double)
Si Otan (double)
Kontole (not really related to chubas anymore)
>IN
Deidey (Suisei lokal)
Manca (Replacement for Windah)
3 slots left
>New name
Dolphino (no si otan anymore, we can give her new name)
Ucagi >> groomed child

>>40534278
I'm not sure about Manca, but I want to add Deidey, and Cae. I'm not sure about the other three, though. Maybe Silvia?
Also, give Chloe proper L2D pls. You can shill her to EOP as the SEA version of Shigure UI based on her model. Ucagi too, because some EOPs will be nuts when you see two children on starting XI.

any new info on what happen with the cosplayer cheating with vtuber drama?

>>40535117
>Manca
The Kobo-Manca&friends collab made a big splash both on youtube and /vt/. That drinking guy is still used as a bait. He's also technically a pngtuber so it's closely related to vtuber. I think i just want 1 slot for big name that we can rotate every vtl It's not like we're running out of slot either (we have 2 double last time).
>Cae
Unless we have a really good model of her, or running out of option, i don't think we should add her. We already have Cupang from Aki, which not only are much bigger and relevant in ID scene than Aki, but also have a lot of ties with warkop. I think we can give the last 3 slots to other corpo like digikagi, livium, etc. I'm just not familiar enough with them to give suggestion kek.

>>40536873 (me)
>we already have cupang from aki
i mean aka kek

Also maybe new name for Jaret? I don't like Nasi Kecap seems a little boring. My suggestions are either
>Khilaftuber (https://youtu.be/v7TUF7wZpjE))
or (might be controversial)
>Ollie's secret boyfriend
based on that infamous Ollie's yab

>>40536873
>The Kobo-Manca&friends collab made a big splash both on youtube and /vt/
Oh, really? How's numberfaggots at /#/ reacted at that time? Also,
>using m*les flesh L2D model with Manca's iconic chibi face
Now that's kino.

> I think we can give the last 3 slots to other corpo
For other corpos, maybe choose the one that is currently hot like Silvia and Alenka?
>adding Alenka to starting XI so /warkop/ has 3 lolis

>Also maybe new name for Jaret?
For Jaret, pick "Ollie's secret boyfriend" so it'll spice some of /vt/sisters awikwok.

>>40535117
Deidey and Cae is a must have imo, and idk how tf we will name Manca if he's in timnas

/warkop/ census.
https://poal.me/uxeovo
Aleph-kun, you have a fan? Kek that's a nice surprise

>>40538104
>numberfaggots reactions
i don't really remember but mostly just typical indochads spam kek. that drinking guy tho, people use that for bait a lot.
>Silvia & Alenka
Any name suggestion maybe?
we really love loli, aren't we?
>>40538146
>Cae is a must
Any reason why?
>Manca's name
we will find a way

>>40515186
>new chant
https://youtu.be/GhjrkWSlXpM

>>40541060
>Kobo
>not this chant
https://youtu.be/zJ9Ls40zyHA

>>40541336
oh yeah that too

>>40541336
this clip is good too (skip to 0:05 for EOP)

>>40542038 (me)
oops, forgot the link
https://youtu.be/HwnFjsmlZUk

>>40540115
>Any reason why?
Kept seeing her name in some past threads so I think she's very relevant for /warkop/

>>40542038
>>40542162
From 0 to 0:52 is good for chant. But, imagine getting reverse chant aboos with this awikwok.

>>40542353
I think people keep mentioning her because of that KCI clip? Also iirc she's also /here/. Idk, i don't watch indies or small corpo but for the sake of Bhinneka Tunggal Ika i think we can give the slot to other corpos since AKA already have Cupang.
>>40542509
Yeah we need better chant that are funny to EOP too. Most of our chant are just random song that are meaningless to EOP. That Mantra Hujan Windah version chant is funny based on chat reaction but that chant is cursed since we always conceded kek.

>>40540115
Just name Silvia as Komandan, that's how we talk about her here and that's how EOPs here will know her

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA.

Ooooooo 4chan God, i pray to Thee. Please let this thread be free from any schizos.

HUMBALA HUMBALA HUMBALA, AMEN.

The Silvia anon is a malechuuba from /mvp/. I haven't seen him anywhere for a couple of days. I think Silvia will be a nice addition to our timnas

>>40545615
Speaking of Silvia, she's liv rn
https://youtu.be/Ozu-hFZ9Jrg

Double AKA rep should be fine imo, all big3 has double reps and AKA would probably be on par with them later this year, so I think having both Airi and Cae should be fine

i think we should focus on name and model. whoever has the best name and model deserved to fill the slots

We just talk about this, any thought /warkop/? Are there really no email info of holoID out there? I remember when Valorant Indonesia wants to invite Kobo to their podcast they're asking for holoID email too.

>Kobo once got endorsement offer from cosmetic product
goddammit scarlet

>>40554458
>Valorant Indonesia wants to invite Kobo to their podcast
qrd?

https://twitter.com/yumelive_ent/status/1611966096852017152

Thoughts on this?

>>40555931
That's already the summary. Valorant Esport Indonesia has a podcast on their channel, they once asked on kobo's chat (when streaming valo) if she wants to appear on the podcast. I think Kobo said to email mchan and they asked where to find the email iirc. Nothing happens since then so we don't know what happen.

>>40555966
>agency name changed
>CEO changed from Indonesian to some guy with Japanese name
Boi, do investors finally buy a local agency?

>>40556482
The Nips are coming again to conquer us

>>40555966
>new name
>something-live
why

This local artist (biittertaste) caught my eye. He draws not only Deidey and Silvia but also other local VTubers. I think with this art style, it's only a matter of time before he got the commission from Outdonesians as Reinly and Xeapher did. You can see it here: https://twitter.com/biittertaste/media

This art in particular. She's so pretty in this art that I don't surprised when the neurons in some random awanama activated and he thinks that she looks like asking to be impregnated.

Any other local artists that caught your eye?

>>40557056
.....must.......resist.....

>>40557162
Look at her shoulders... Look at her thighs and feet, Awanama...

>>40555441
>Scarlet
I swear that brand is fucking everywhere in gamebro videos, house reviews/tours, food reviews, kdramas, etc
They're the mixue of Body lotions

>>40555966
based I guess? hopefully this is what it takes to end that high turnover in talents

>>40557626
but the groomer is still there

>>40557729
Wait, I think I remember that rrat. But, my memory is hazy. QRD?

>>40557800
>>32730559

>>40555966
did yuta take over the agency? he's supposedly a "founder" and japanese...

>>40558533
hold up, if that's Yuta's rl name then that is not gud

>>40558533
oh shit you're right, he's half japanese according to wiki

>>40557056
>biittertaste
he's deidey's papa.
>check his twitter
>currently not accepting commission
fuck

>>40557544
They're even on timnas kits, well the badminton ones I mean

>>40560191
Yes, I know. Maybe he'll become the Papa for either Tsunderia or Phase Connect upcoming new talent? Dude must be busy making children.

>>40557056
SEX

>>40557056
That's some high class fanart right there

>>40513943
Okay, I did imply that Alenka is a loli, based on the first impression of her L2D model. But, I skimmed her debut stream and I just noticed that she's STACKED. Notice her underboob that somehow sync with the cat ears silhouette on her jacket. The thing is she didn't take off her jacket in her debut stream. Maybe I don't see her doing it elsewhere.

So... Alenka is a loli oppai?

>>40562929
i want to make children with deidey

Why do anons /here/ want to impregnate Deidey all of sudden?

>>40556625
No complain here, that's actually a good thing. What Indonesia lack is money, but we have plenty of creative talent pool and huge growth potential, while Japan has plenty of money but their entertainment industry has become oversaturated.
No problem if they reap all the money, we will have all the know-how and soon might have a competitive local scene or even a top tier global vtuber agency.

>>40567168
It all started from this - >>39720378
Then, the discussion immediately went south. I mean, wanting to impregnate her favorite oshi is one of the most /vt/ things.
Also, Deidey was heavily inspired by Suisei. Suisei is well-known for her Suisex. Hence, Deidey is Deisex.

>>40566700

A likely to be huge exID news might be announced soon, emphasis on likely tho

>>40568144
Woah. Any prediction or rrat on that news?

>>40568144
3D?

>>40568144
good or bad?

>>40568206
We don't know, it's teased to be an event but it's coming from the least active streamer in the whole group so..

>>40568293
>inb4 mass graduation

>>40568293
...which one?

>>40568144
>inb4 nothingburger

>>40568144
probably just another muh big collab

>>40565738
>Lolippai
Perfect, we got a name for her now. Just need the model please add something referring to her being from exID staff's corpo and mogs most exID

>>40568144
It's probably an FFXIV Ultimate Raid collab stream between NijiID livers. Jura has talked about it in her latest stream

>>40567408
that's assuming it's actual investor from japan and not their half-nips groomer founder

>>40569109
Damn I forgor they're such FFXIV nerds, that'd be fun for them for sure

>>40568398
>an event
>mass graduation concert
LETS GOOOOOOO

>>40569189
Oh right, his forma de chuuba haven't been active at all this Nataru season, he might unironically overtook Yume

>>40569252
Honestly that would be heart-wrenching kino

>>40554458
are they fucking dumb? going through their social media for 2 minutes and i already found it. nice "label" you got there

>>40567646
>Deisex
Okay I will watch her when I'm free and my oshi doesn't stream

>>40571060
What are the chances that it's just a schizo trying to get Kobo's personal contact since she have poor opsec and can be a bit panicky sometimes

>>40571060
huh, interesting. i try checking (using mobile) before posting that and can't find it. maybe they actually use mobile too kek
>>40572956
nah, rhythm is not a random and definitely not a schizos. also how can you get personal contact from that? probably he just have some contacts and try to help but not familiar with how corporate works.

>>40567926
Just because you're not a child doesn't mean you can escape rape correction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyfT6E5X46U
Ooh, Kawi is at 2.5D now naisuu

>>40555966
Is this their new mascot? Cute!

>>40567926
>spank deidey's ass while fucking her hard

>>40567168
astroturfing.
nobody cared about her drama, but anons are pushing it for some reason
I don't trust deidey anons

>>40579881
>don't trust
why?

Indos love

>>40569103
>spoiler
CRUSHED BY OPPAI LOLI
I can imagine that her model is the usual L2D model but with her jacket off. I can also think of adding some touches such as accessories that are related to ex-ID and upgrading her oppai a bit more. But, I'm not sure about said additions.

Also, I'm starting to doubt whether she's a true loli. Yes, she's 150 cm. But, still...

>>40539151
miti op doko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapTaQJYvMk
Cae..

WAKE UP!!!

>>40592863
No

>>40592863
Monday...

>>40598008
>>40598428
Kerja! KERJA!

>>40598826
Working hard to support my oshi!!

>>40539151
who the hell voted for me? i'm not even that active
>no Mythia vote
OP is dead

>>40552651
Beeg agree

>>40513943
Cute Rumskii

>>40600779
>inb4 Miti OP is Miti herself

>>40598826
Kek this inspires me

>>40604998
that's what I've always been thinking lmao

https://twitter.com/Otaku_Anime_Ind/status/1611655150271139840
Any rrats on who the vtuber is?

>>40607675
Fuck, I forgot, he's an indie with 1k subs.

>>40607675
Who

>>40607675
I don't understand woman sometimes
t. fellow woman

>>40604998
>>40607408
that means she's horny posting about herself kek she wants to be bred so bad
>>40607675
>15yo
Are those tits real?

>>40609081
Same
At least she admitted she's not a victim. But 19yo and 22yo dating a 15yo would be considered a scandal, punishable by jail time in western countries
>>40607675
>Those assets
i have a cousin, she already had a pair of medium-big tits when she's a virgin. on a span of few months her tits grew 30% bigger, she confessed to me that she already fucked her then husband before marriage. Her boobs grew bigger again after pregnancy. Now she has humongous milf tits even though she's not yet 30yo. I have a theory that women grew boobs significantly after receiving a benis. And the reason why my tits are still A-cup is because I'm a virgin femcel. I also noticed that it also corelate with my level of horniness my tits are getting bigger as I'm older, when i was a teen I consider myself asexual borderline autistic now that I'm 25+ I'm horny and normal
So... Any info about said chuuba?

>>40583631

biggest oppai loli in ID. a shame we will never see her maximum potential since her viewers are normies

btw, no one here talks about that 3 loli vtuber from Alter Ego Esports?

>>40579909
the drama are way too coordinated

but, suisei impostor still need correction

>>40609081
"women"

its a man writing anon. do you think a 15 yo would write something like that ? basically /vt rrats but in IG

>>40579909
Because, i don't plan to reply to you. but there's this >>40612613 (this deidey anon is not me)
Dude use NTA next time you post

>>40611531
>>40608339 perhaps?

btw, does anybody know a good 4chan app for android? i use read chan but it always said wrong captcha when i want to post something

>>40613353
>4chan app
All of them has shitty UI, so i prefer to use browsers but here
Kuroba ex
https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental

>>40613353
I just use kiwi browser and install all necessary scripts like 4chan X and 4chan sounds player for phoneposting. It's much better than any app I know

airi are you here give us a sign

i like ur 3D model

>>40609699
>Spoiler
or perhaps she's just into selfcest and often shlicking to her lewd fanarts? Who knows?

>>40611784
>they're not yet being clipped by Fuutaba, KatsuiRiku, or Zaamaa
No, I don't know.

>>40619426
paid clippers aaaaiiiieeeee

>>40611784
>her viewers are normies
Or, local viewers aren't degenerate enough like JP or EN fandom that spam cute and funny jokes like Tuesday. Also, Alenka seems like doesn't take advantage of her oppai even for a little bit.

>>40513943
So, Mai and Deidey will do a voice-acting stream tomorrow. Don't forget to fill out this form if you want to submit your script to be voiced by them.
https://twitter.com/KumalaMai/status/1612051504386682881
What kind of script do you want for them or any local chuubas that do a similar stream, Awanama? (regardless of the "don't be too sensitive" restriction)

>>40620218
we must gro- corrupt her

its hard but she does had yab potential. wait we should start Seiso - Yab power level. isnt holo ID or niji ID has this yab tierlist ?

>>40620632
>script
ikeh ikeh kimochiiiiiii from a hentai anime for deidey

https://youtu.be/6HFkjzUDHI8
Poor dude just wanna ask whether there will be Stars ID in the future, ended up being lectured about "don't beg if you're not gonna watch" and "enjoy what we have right now" kek

>>40621026
>Alenka starts to play her sexy card
>being called whore by "fans"
>Alenka goes into menhera mode
>it's Miti all over again
not gonna make it...

>>40621158
>Ollie
I'm not surprised
An anon said that if StarsID exist, Ollie and Kobo won't shill or do watchalong for their debut and knowing these girls, i agree.
>"don't beg if you're not gonna watch" and "enjoy what we have right now" kek
These are also what homobeggars said in reddit when many people are asking for HoloEN 3

>>40621289
menhera oppai loli hot

>>40621158

Ollie with the usual "kalian kalian kalian kalian"

>>40621289
>Listen to nyiyiran orang
She lacks the mentality to make it but from several streams I've watched, she sounds like a zoomer so it's to be expected. Still, I hope she can step up her game and just listen to people who are matter
>>40621605
>"Kalian kalian kalian"
To be fair, all of her genmates are like

>>40620632
>spoiler
all Kobo's JP voicepack script, especially the cat one

>>40613672
>>40617147
thanks anon! will check it later

>>40621158
>"don't beg if you're not gonna watch"
kek

>>40621289
Nothing happened with Miti in late 2021 to early 2022.

>>40622056
Oh, Is her voice pack a bit spicy or too much comedy?

>>40622794

ID : comedy
EN and especially JP : asking for correction

>>40622883
>spoiler

>>40622883
pls give us the kobo EN script example, if its spicy i will buy it

>>40621158
>People who asks for Holostars ID are opportunist who want to become a Holostars and not people who want to support/watch Holostars
We have the same thoughts, Ollie
But you (and Kobo) are also part of the reason why I'm against StarsID
I wonder when you zoomer girls gonna start to realize that StarsEN and StarsJP have different fanbase than HoloID, who may not be okay with co-ed collab spams like their HoloJP and HoloEN counterparts. Have you ever think that you are actually not helping the boys but crippling them instead?
to learn how to interact with Holostars please learn it from Risu and stay away from Mori, the reaper is a bad influence
I don't trust these zoomers.
Thank God ID1 has no zoomer in it so it became a solid foundation for HoloID.

>>40623005
text script sample

>>40621026
>we must gro- corrupt her
no, we should protect the innocent child from degenerate like you

>People who asks for Holostars ID are opportunist who want to become a Holostars and not people who want to support/watch Holostars


So what is "mchan" role here? isn't it supposed to filter those people who's opportunist

Didn't you are also "opportunist" who join hololive to get close to your senpai, ollie?

>>40621535
>Ollie and Kobo won't shill or do watchalong for their debut
I understand Ollie since she hates her fellow countrymen, but why would Kobo not at least shill them, considering the fact that she is part of asylum and is friends with a lot of local male fleshtuber?

>>40623277
>Didn't you are also "opportunist" who join hololive to get close to your senpai, ollie?
Kek you got her.
I don't watch Ollie, but i know she simps for Miyabi

>>40623310
Alright I'll give her the benefit of the doubt
But when was the last time she collabed with asylum?
Male fleshtubers have some clout unlike malechuubas, zen is an exception because he's her senpais friend.

>>40623310
just dumb anon who never watch kobo and doesn't know anything about kobo other than what they read on /vt/

>>40619285
I'd rather be called a paid Miti shill (someone said this to me before). I don't think Miti is into selfcest, though, she's very straight

>>40623636
Her birthday, not even 1 month ago. You understand how autistic cover's permission are right? Also she interacts with Napking pretty much almost every stream.

>>40623779
>Birthday totsu appearance
I still don't think male fleshtubers equal male chuubas
Sorry anon.

>>40623636
Two weeks ago, Sena is also a part of asylum.

>People who asks for Holostars ID are opportunist who want to become a Holostars and not people who want to support/watch Holostars
And so? What's the problem here? As long as they don't constantly begging and being annoying what's the problem with hoping for starsID so hopefully you can try joining?

Like, if there are no good talent then they can just cancel it. It's not like they never did it before. Or maybe just delay it indefinitely like EN3.

>>40623890
you're literally asking when was her last collab with asylum and i answer your question. please stop exposing your retardation anon.

Kek, looks like there's a seething 2views chuba that got salty he got rejected from collabing with kobo

>>40624082
>but why would Kobo not at least shill them, considering the fact that she is part of asylum and is friends with a lot of local male fleshtuber?
Hey im just saying that fleshtubers are not equal chuubas.
Have you seen Kobo shill some male chuubas who are not a Holostars?
She's not interested

>>40624020
This tho, do all stars talents must know stars culture before joining when we know cover is trailing what NijiEN did and they're full of people who doesn't know much about nijisanji prior to joining?

>>40623255
90% of vtuber will be degenerated in a year

exceptions are like that pink horse vtuber (nirmala?)

>>40624169
you're seething because Kobo is that kind of girl

>>40623890
So you want interaction with random males? Kobo also played valorant with VC with her members, and they are people who would join holostars just to get closer to hololive members.

>>40624318
No. I just defending my views that she's also that kind of girl like Ollie

>>40624271
>do all stars talents must know stars culture before joining when we know cover is trailing what NijiEN did and they're full of people who doesn't know much about nijisanji prior to joining?
Looking at StarsEN, no

>>40624235
yes, bobby (before he became her paypig too in the early cebokerz arc)
>>40624303
kek, you basically just confirmed what i said. what's your channel name? just shill /here/ we have some hardcore femanon that might like you

>>40624318
i want roleplay dating stream between Male EN and Female ID

hot + additional orgasm from watching crying cucks

>>40624495
But I'm a femanon

>>40624561
hi airi

>>40624495
>Bobby
Who?

>>40624603
Hi valrius

>>40624608

>>40624530
Kek

>>40624467
Yea, that's why don't be shocked if overseas stars talents are kinda culturally detached from their JP senpais or full of opportunist, remember that their goal is to replicate NijiEN, not starsJP

>>40624271
>>40624467
Not even in hololive. They're accepting Kobo who barely knows what hololive is before her audition. I don't Kaela knows much about hololive either (feel free to correct me on this one i don't really watch Kaela).

The most important thing for a new talent is great and diverse talent. You don't want to hire similar chubas to your existing talent cause you probably not gonna expand your audience. Either the new gen will be DOA or they steal their senpai's viewers.

>>40624235
https://youtube.com/@charlescaitou
Kobo have shilled and followed this guy before, and as far as I'm concerned, he's not even a part of Ollie's circle

>>40624672
Handsome chuuba
Which Corpo he's in?
Is he an Indie?

>>40624561
ah, so you're a salty femanon that kobo plays a lot with your oshis. you're this then >>40623720

>>40624736
>don't be shocked
I'm not shocked
I mean someone several threads ago also want to turn HoloID/StarsID into NijiEN

>>40624752
need to hire ex-JKT talent

>>40624814
Why do you need to defend her so bad? But you're okay with saying Ollie is that kind of girl?
To me they're all the same

Another day, another retarded discussion start by a femanon. Why are weebswomen like this.

>>40624788
jir caitou

>>40625056
Maybe because you keep biting. There are Zomrades in this thread but they're not as assblasted or thin-skinned as Kobokerz

>>40625016
Because that's a retarded take from someone who doesn't know them and doesn't watch them at all. Also i never said anything about Ollie, that's a different anon.

>>40625146
Forgot the pic

>>40624909
There you go anon, they need eventual replacement for whenever all 18 remaining exIDs grad. Honestly if 2022 born corpos tried to fulfill exID roles, they wouldn't be starsbeggars, but this is what them being hololites gave us instead..

>>40625146
Sorry for keep replying to you, i didn't know you're a zomrades.

>>40625233
>keep
Actually I'm a moonaito, also I'm not that anon

>>40625162
>>40625370
nice try

>>40625222
>Honestly if 2022 born corpos tried to fulfill exID roles, they wouldn't be starsbeggars, but this is what them being hololites gave us instead..
There are several mixed-gender corpos, why are they not going there? Honestly I'm cool with Nijifags but seeing them wanting to destroy Holo's culture, I wish for StarsID to never exist

>>40625146
Nta, but zomrades are self-hater too just like their oshi, of course they agree

>>40625583
I'd say 2 things
>lack of awareness towards smol corpos existence
>heightened expectation towards cover as the new trendsetter in ID following nijimerge

>>40624736
If starsID exist, since niji is not success, imo the will try to be different but end up like StarEN, then people will try to turn holoID/starsID into nijiEN
I'll see myself out

>>40625805
Naruhodo
But i still wish Kobokerz will learn to not easily bite a bait

>>40625832
>I'll see myself out
Same
>people will try to turn holoID/starsID into nijiEN
Who are these people? HoloID members themselves? Fans? Virtue signalers?
I trust Kaela, i don't trust other girls like Kobo, Zeta, Ollie, Risu and Iofi. Damn that's a lot. If there are inside forces who push for Nijification, I'm afraid it's going to be those girls. As a fan, what can I do to prevent it and tell those stubborn girls to not do it? It's sad but we can only just leave. I guess the best method for now is to prevent StarsID

>>40625908
in my defense it's started as a normal argument from someone who just doesn't know kobo. only latter it's obvious that she's just baiting and doesn't care about any argument and i'm already in a tardwrangler mood (and bored) so it's too late.

>>40625832
>try to turn holoID/starsID into nijiEN
explain what kind of nijification you're afraid of

I honestly wonder tho, how should holoID be doing this year? If starsID isn't the solution, how they should keep things fresh? Beating NijiID to their demise is pretty much cover's best achievement of 2022, even Yagoo indirectly admits it, but with new challengers such as AKA and DigiKagi on the rise, there's no room for stagnancy, not when these new corpos come with a vastly different culture than niji. We know there's no fucking way cover would allow mediashare, so innovations must come from elsewhere, but what can they do?

>>40626420
Risu, Iofi, and Ollie debuted before NijiEN, how are they going to turn HoloID into NijiEN when HoloID did it first.

>>40626740
Kek
Are you a HoloID staff looking for our opinion?
First of all the management, at least if StarsID gonna debut i don't want them to be under HoloProID but under StarsJP. No voice chat together or improptu collabs with Holostarsid members.
To avoid the fracture in our fanbase, please educate HoloID girls especially Ollie to not give antis ammo like saying 'destroying the barrier between Stars and Holos'
Honestly, I'd rather not have StarsID at all
I don't want the fanbase to be fractured

>>40626922
>how they should keep things fresh?
HoloID concert with Indonesian songs

>>40626922
>Makes bureaucracy easier for collabs with big name (but still hard for random indes)
>Focus on 3D and (hopefully) concert
>Launch ID4, hopefully it gets the hype too
>Hire a better writer and/or director for your tiktok, or don't. Just pay your talent to write it themselves since it's obvious from countless example (their membership shill videos, zeta and kaela video for kobo) that they can write better than any official content.
They don't have to worry about rival since they're too dominant. Just focus on growing so you don't become stagnant.

>>40626584
Well you learnt your lessons

>>40627137
>I don't want the fanbase to be fractured
ID3 already fractured the fanbase so it's too late. They clearly have different fanbase than the rest.

>>40627363
Wdym by fractured here? Inner gen-mem comparison wars?

>>40627363
>Too late
A different kind of fracture, anon
A big fucked up one that will divide us into pro-homo vs pro-cgdct
>Id3
It's just Kobo and maybe zeta
Kaela is another pillar of cgdct

>>40627137
I feel that even management and some talents legit think that Nijification is not a bad thing because of the so-called unicorn problem. The thing is so-called "unicorn" isn't as schizo as some people may think (i.e. they're okay with one or two collabs and they simply don't watch, are they even unicorn at this point?). When you keep poking these people, they'll simply just leave. Also, I think there's a chance that a considerable amount of femanon also thinks in the way "unicorns" think. They're just not vocal in a place like R*ddit or Tw*tter, maybe even some of them joining the "hate unicorn a.k.a. incels" bandwagon.

>>40627436
>>40627471
look at clips, tiktok, etc. id3 have a big different fanbase (normies) that're exclusive to them and only knows them. even most kaela's indonesian unicorns are exclusive to her instead of a big cgdct fanbase.

>>40627563
>because of the so-called unicorn problem.
The problem is not just about the unicorns.
Management preferential treatments like how T-chan locked reddit during Tempus2 debut announcement is one of the problem, Teammates and Deadbeats couldn't post about Ame's birthday and Mori's new song.
Nobody is able to predict that the management would overreact that way. It's truly fucked up.
Nobody benefited from it, StarsEN just got more antipathy.
That's why I'm suggesting to separate StarsID and HoloID management, they should not make 'HoloProID' a thing.

>>40627833
They just need to hire more mods so they can just delete bait posts instead of locking the entire reddit. The problem is there are way too many posts that needs to get deleted for tchan to handle herself.

And this is not just a reddit problem, they also need more mods for livechat. Seriously why are they so greedy refusing to hire more employees?

>>40627931
>Bait posts
She's afraid of downvotes

>>40627218
NTA, but I have some thoughts on your point

>Makes bureaucracy easier for collabs with big name (but still hard for random indes)
This. I can't say about the numbers, but I always look forward to HoloID and other well-known ID VTubers. Kobo and Sena collab is kino. Also, when will Miti collab with HoloID, beyond the live chat and Mediashare?

>Focus on 3D and (hopefully) concert
It'll be fucking kino if there's a standalone HoloID special concert in places like Balai Kartini. But, hope is hope.

>Launch ID4, hopefully, it gets the hype too
For me, it'll have to follow the same strategy that was deployed on ID3: tap different markets. What's the ideal market for ID4? Cover, please hire over-18 talent that can act as legit cute loli like Sena or La+

>Hire a better writer and/or director for your tiktok
VRchama shared this thread about Tiktok. In short, you can monetize from Tiktok. I think it's a good idea to lure new fans. Maybe. https://twitter.com/VRchama/status/1612287492555956225

>They don't have to worry about rival since they're too dominant.
This. Nijisanji ID is fucking dead. I think MAHA5 and some chuuba like Miti, Sena, and Chloe aren't even close. If HoloID screw this up...

>>40627981
?

>>40628001
>Nijisanji ID is fucking dead
Yes WE 'WON' the ID market
Cover is stupid if they want to copy Niji

>>40628078
I'm too lazy to spoon-feed
Just look at /#/ archieve

>>40628095
Niji aren't even the trendsetter on male sector, that's MAHA5 and more recently AKA, so idk why this insistence on
>oh nyo, nijification bad
When ID is ONCE AGAIN operates differently to niji?

>>40627833
When will COVER learn that to separate Hololive and Holostars isn't the same as fucking apartheid or something?

I legit think that COVER act in this way because they're thinking that they'll get the backlash from people who think that anything that constitutes gender separation is inherently immoral and evil. You can see people barking about "parasocial is le evil" even though VTubers and streaming, in general, are inherently parasocial. You can see people shit on so-called incels and smugly ask them to "touch the grass", even though there's the chance that same people are probably too scared to go outside because of social anxiety and afraid of ordinary social relationships for some reason.

It's all so tiresome.

>>40628281
>that's MAHA5 and more recently AKA
Is that so?
Cover is stupid if they want to copy Maha5 and AKA

>>40628368
>I legit think that COVER act in this way because they're thinking that they'll get the backlash from people who think that anything that constitutes gender separation is inherently immoral and evil.
Someone should tell yagoo Indonesians do understand gender separation is sometimes necessary like how Islam teaches us

>>40628001
>They don't have to worry about rival since they're too dominant
The same thing were said for EN and look at where we are now.. No empire lasts forever anon, not even in our safe looking market

>>40628519
Tempus is not helping HoloEN tho.

>>40628001
>Bureaucracy
It' not just collab between chubas but with brand etc. Look at holoJP and how many weird collab shit they have done (the Nissin collab, la+ interviewing batman, collab with that bald comedian, korone and sonic, etc).

Just imagine how kino it would be if Kobo tries to promot Scarlet kek. We know Kobo got a lot of offer at her peak but so little are actually happened. For example i don't know why she can't accept the mod pc from gaptech.id. Yes, i know about airtag but surely they can check it first if they still don't believe. Heck if it's still to risky for cover, they can even just collab to make it a giveaway for fans or something, make it a mantra hujan cover competition to make the song even more viral.

I just want more stuff other than gaming since not everyones is a gamer. Just let the true gamer like Kaela to play a bunch of random games since it will still be interesting.

>>40619285
https://twitter.com/MythiaVTuber/status/1612342322628538370
>i'm so cute i wanna date myself
>tweeted 2 hours ago
This is just a coincidence, right? RIGHT???

>>40628519
>No empire lasts forever anon, not even in our safe looking market
Yes, but it's still painful if the doomposting that is supposed to be laughed at turns out to be reality. You can regret as much as you can when that time comes, but you can't do anything because the milk is already spilled. Even worse, you can only scream but management most likely won't listen to you.

TL;DR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIUhpzv47YQ

>>40628519
>The same thing were said for EN
one word: Luxiem. Cover wants that.
but still, seeing the male chuubas in ID are all 3views at best, i don't think we'll get starsID, well except there is one male ID that has great voice, can sing, can draw, good at games, then maybe... lol.

>>40628707
>management most likely won't listen to you.
Is there a way to specifically contact ID management? Preferably by emails

>>40628519
Yes, but holoEN still dominates the female market. They just lost the males market which is always never their forte in the first place (and trying to tap into that market will only destroys them).

>>40626922

As long as cover haven't made official office in Indonesia. I will not consider them serious to expand holoid or their ID market

>>40628784
scroll up
>>40628695
I DON'T THINK SO ANON

>>40628935
>scroll up
I don't want to
I'm blind

>>40628987
i don't trust someone like you to email management then

>>40629045
Email them, on my behalf then

>>40628856
There were problems at the female sector too, so it's more than just tempiss being tempiss

>>40629101
True but still, nobody want TempissID

>>40629101
still at the top despite that, also you can't compare numbers to 2020-2021 since covid boost everything

Why is there a dedicated clipper for Naplive's interaction with HoloID members
https://youtube.com/@masamuelclips411

>>40629196
Probably an unironic shipper

>>40628762
That's what annoys me the most about cover, they're never the corpo you'd expect to drive up innovation, all they can do is letting niji live rent free on their heads and treat their actions like a gospel, jumping into EN female market were a rare bravery of them but now they're back to their true habitat, treating niji like their rasul or some shit

>>40629196
it brings number. if you already a fans of both of them then why not become a clipper? especially since it's quite popular

>>40629254
>treating niji like their rasul
Kek
What's the most appropriate pic for this sentence?

>>40629196
Believe it or not, there are a lot of overlap between holoID fans and some fleshtuber like naplive. Even before ID3 people like nero id already clips holos interaction with luthfi and got big numbers.

>>40629196
i like his interaction with kobo, its funny

>>40629196
I hate that attention whore nap guy so much

>>40629196
>Self-shilling
Wow

>>40629305

>>40630244
Anycolor: Isa/Yesus
Cover: Hawariyyun/Apostles

>>40630244

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiMjfWzs_oI
Komandan is at the seas ges

>>40628904
What's the significance of having it anyways? I remember niji used to have one but they were bullied for having it here because it's to costly

>>40628762
3 view is considered as success for stars thou, will not surprise if starsID show up this year seeing other local corpo rising male chuuba, i bet the indo staff starting pushing the jp staff to take some initiative.

>>40612613
>coordinated
you mean deidey's warkop thread last year was made by her or one of her friends?
>need correction
OF COURSE!!!

>>40632193
Vox forma de ID could come up at anytime, being complacent by not taking up the initiative early risks them trailing like in EN rn, thev logic is that why wait for other when cover can be the success rn?

imagine
vshojo id vtuber

>>40632920
>Vox forma de ID
We have a potential one, Harris Caine. Super popular on Tiktok with 100k followers. Femanons, please talk more about him.

>>40633187
upgraded SnowDrop

>>40633187
>iD Vshojo
Their "talent first" aspect or their pee pee poo poo humour? ID Mel doko?

>>40634505
>hentai is big in Indonesia
>camgirl is big in Indonesia
Cmon snowdrop, do it properly and become ID Melody instead of breaking youtube's rules.

>>40635356
When I mentioned Mel, I mean her normal streams, not her cb ones but yeah AVtubers would also be nice

>>40635783
How do you become ID mel (normal stream) then? What's unique from her?

>>40633249
>Harris caine
>free talk
>Valo spam
>can't sing
Nah there's nothing special about him
My standard is high

>>40632920
>Vox forma de ID could come up at anytime, being complacent by not taking up the initiative early risks them trailing like in EN rn
>Letting Vox living rent-free
Literally Nabi dan Rasul

>>40635947
Enjoy streaming, fun with a little bit excess energy yet wholesome

>>40635783
blackpill me on Mel

>>40638503
Besides >>40637590 , she also won't ever play FPS because she has epilepsy

This just come to my mind, will you get demonetized if you play mediashare while streaming on youtube? I remember youtube's content ID is the reason why react streamers is not really popular there compare to the wild world of twitch.

If so then it makes sense why mediashare becomes so big, people love react content but getting demonetized mean you need donation to cover for it. Maybe in the future people will pay for streamer to react to longer video.

>>40636783
got his luck in Tiktok. kinda good but no where close to Andi

the only male ID fits to be on holostar is Andi

>>40639912
almost 100% surely demonetized. but most 2-3view chuubas will probably only make Rp.2k-20k for one stream anyway...

>>40639912
the video, yes, demonetized
the channel, never heard someone got demonetized

>>40640452 (me)
in adsense, sorry forgot to specify
meanwhile the mediashare could total millions

>>40640452
mediashare + donathon is the cashcow for ID 2-3view. And many of them spend it on streaming equipment + new model etc = better content

also, more money into 2-3 view vtubers = more money for ID artists/editor/modeler = sustainable ID vtuber industry

The donation culture + mediashare donation is something that Malaysia and Phillipines vtuber lacks (along with viewers heh). I kinda want to write about it on twitter.

check aruri tweet about SEA vtuber donation:

https://twitter.com/AuregaliaAruri/status/1611716920608423937

Goodluck venturing as an Indie EN vtuber on YT, Aruri.

>>40640419
>the only male ID fits to be on holostar is Andi
Eew
Kek no

>>40641906
Who do you want then, Ollie?

>>40642453
I want aleph-kun

>>40642997
(you) and other femanons deserved better chuubas than me

>>40643170
Don't say that! Aleph-kun!

>>40641691
>Aruri
Is she a Malaysian?
Her P.O.BOX address is in Malaysia.

>>40539151
make a new poll asking if we want starsID or not. let's decide once and for all our stance regarding the homos

>>40644408
>Poll
This thread is not just for HoloIDfags
People could vote once a day because of Dynamic IPs

>>40644562
that's why it's fun, you ruin it

>>40641691
>This isn't much....blablabla
Damn, she got $1000 donation from someone.
Even for Americans, a thousand bucks are a lot.
https://twitter.com/AuregaliaAruri/status/1611714524180254721

>>40611531
I can deny about the birgin thing. My friends who got fcked almost everyday still flat af

>>40624280
Epel also exception

>>40645949
Reminds me about "vtuber ngemis fonasi buat debut" drama

>>40649747
Who and QRD?

anyone feel that earthquake?

>>40651558
weirdly enough, I only noticed it bcuz that Yume groomer retweeted bout it

anyways 7.9 is quite huge.. stay safe awanama

>Kobo-Uyu improptu collab
https://youtu.be/Jlmv-b9z7hI
Nijification is real

>>40651771
Is nijification the new buzzword of the week?

>>40652160
>New

>>40651771
"Nijification" can't happen to HoloID because they were NijiID lite when they started, just like how HoloJP were NijiJP lite. However it can happen to HoloEN because they started like HoloJP where they mostly collab between themselves, unlike HoloID who collab with outsiders since the beginning.

>>40651725
Didn't notice it.
It's in Maluku, far away from Java.

>>40652160
It's an old buzzword but now some anons /here/ start to use it however they wish

>>40640419
none of the male vtubers in indonesia fits to be holostars id. they need someone like kobo that doesn't know the culture and never watch vtuber before
kobo works because she act like male fleshtuber. her huge downside was her menhera and she doesn't really want to listen to her fans. windah success was because he sold his soul to the bocil

>>40649836
It's not that important. Tldr this chuuba set a goal (i forgot 17 mil?) for debut starter and ppl start to nyinyir about that

>>40651771
Privated

>>40655656
I mean, there are certainly limits to what Kobo can do, even with m-chan's full backing knowing how cover works, that's what these normiefags need to know, if they come to holo expecting a fleshchuuba experience then they need to tone the fuck down

>>40656219
yeah it was unarchived

>>40655656
>they need someone like kobo that doesn't know the culture and never watch vtuber before
That would be the worst hire. Most stars fans prefer someone who's a fan of Holostars

>>40652780
Could it be that Niji's failure in ID was in brand building? They were so extravagant with it, only to lose against blue doritos who depends on exisiting fanculture from earlier holoboom

>>40656246
>if they come to holo expecting a fleshchuuba experience then they need to tone the fuck down
You are expecting too much of Kobokers
What can we do about it ? Kobo herself don't act like a Holo, she can't control her own fans. The worst part about it she treats everyone in HoloPro as if they have similar fans with the same demographic as her. She's rude and inconsiderate af

>>40661315
Mixed-gender model like NijiID, metanoia and Maha5 flopped in Indonesia. Not even ex-nijiID staff want to set up a mixed-gender company, Look at Digikagi, easy 100k

>>40661199
>stars fans
irrelevant. if they want to make holostars for indonesia, then focus on what indonesia want, not what holostars fans want.
that would be a stupid move too, why would you want to split the fanbase that already exist instead of finding new fans?

>>40655656
>her huge downside was her menhera and she doesn't really want to listen to her fans.
>she doesn't really want to listen to her fans.
Male Kobo is a literal nightmare, imagine him hanging out and collab-begging in HoloJP chats. Just because He's not familiar with idol cultures, is it okay for him to act like a fool? He gonna justify his arrogance because he pulled Big Numbers

>>40662425
>focus on what indonesia want, not what holostars fans want
What do indonesia want?

>>40662612
male kobo will not interact outside indonesia, kobo's trying to gain her influence outside indonesia by collabing a lot with jp/en member and it backfired for her because her core fanbase start to leave

>>40662827
But Kobo interact outside Indonesia and pissed off sisters in the process. So male Kobo would be the same

>>40662776
literally kobo 2.0, indonesia fans already show their interest loud and clear

>>40662963
>Kobo 2.0 but male
I'd rather watch windah than a gay male vtuber

>>40662909
that's her fault. as I said before, she doesn't want to listen to her (indonesia) fans anymore
male kobo will listen, because he's a male. that's something women can't do

>>40663018
yeah, but windah will join holostarsID

>>40663138
Are you so disappointed at Kobo, now that you desperately want a male Kobo?
>>40663231
Just like Jerma, right?

>>40663138
>she doesn't want to listen to her (indonesia) fans anymore
She never listened to any of her fans in the first place

>>40663366
I kinda did when she refused to play rust.
If they decide to create holostars, don't hire a male that have experience in vtubing, because those people doesn't work with indonesia viewers. kobo despite her lack of care, her streaming style really suit what indonesian viewers want

>>40662776
FIFA 22 mobile gacha apparently
https://playboard.co/en/video/DqAaSB2juBc

>>40663890
that's fucking crazy numbers for solo stream

>>40663890
>>40664027
this is what I meant about windah sold his soul to the bocil

>>40663890
I remember a few months ago Windah fell down to sub 20k average, looks like he rebounded, or even passed his previous peak average ccv

>>40662963
If Kobo cares about numbers she would've continued getting over it like towa did

>>40663870
What separate Kobo's streaming style from the rest of HoloID? Her only unique trait and buff is she's the only member who speaks BI, but now that she's reclining, half of them now realise that Kobo is not for them
>because those people doesn't work with indonesia viewers.
What's your point?
Moona, iofi, and risu were not vtubers. I'm not dismissing fleshstreamer, Kaela was a fleshstreamer and interestingly fit into the cgdct Holo mold more than Kobo.

>>40664460
why she stopped tho? she could at least trying 2-3 times before calling it quit

I'd rather see a male Kaela in Holostars ID
>THE streamer with good work ethic, autistically playing games for long hours
>Big superchat magnet
>Excellent game choices
>Good interactions with fans
>Respecting Holo culture and never homobegging, but at the same time she's also cool with the homos.
A male Kaela would be a cool gamerbro

>>40664587
I feel like Kobo's getting over it stream never get a lot of traction outside of it's CCV, It doesn't have any good moment like Kobo's PvZ series or that one Minecraft stream

>>40664503
you need to observe more. try watch windah, she literally copy what windah did. none of the holoid come close to that. she's reclining because she doesn't listen to her fans, I already said that multiple times here.
>What's your point?
those male vtuber... they're cringe... and boring. they don't have that personality kobo possess

>>40665227
What did she copy?

>>40664890
sadly indonesian doesn't really want her. she was shilled by windah multiple times but she doesn't gain any traction with indo viewers
she's a perfect EN streamer than ID streamer, the ID tags were a debuff for her

>>40665227
Kobo is far away from a gamerbro, she can't even finish her games. All she did was copying Windah and Manca's personality hoping their fans would latch on onto her, and it works for a while. The thing about copying fleshtubers is you don't have your own personality. Those bocil kematian who are curious about her are all coming back to watch the original Windah. You'll never succeed as a copycat

>>40665598
Especially when you are from the same gender. Kobo could still get out of Windah's shadow and find her own identity. It's never too late

>>40665303
his streaming style, she had those "bocil kematian" personality

>>40665565
Kobo has a lot of FOMO bandwagoners and she doesn't speak English that might filters bocil kematian

>>40665598
I mean it doesn't have to be windah or manca
indo viewers also likes someone with attitude like miawaug

>>40665227
Kobo inclined because she didn't want to follow the meta and she reclined because she didn't want to follow the meta, then again, does she wants to sell her soul to the bocil?

>>40665970
nah, I don't think so, she can't handle the bocil. I was there during her menhera arc. it sucks

>>40665598
I feel like her streaming style is more similar to Naplive these days, even she admitted it, the big difference of course, there is no mediashare to react to

>>40666211
>Another fleshtuber she copies
So is naplive bocil kematian-friendly?
Jesas Kobo no wonder your fans are quick to come and go like flies

>>40666211
what's his numbers? I don't follow him

>>40666211
>Kobo opens mediashare
>the first one is DJ Genjer-Genjer Full Blast
ngmi.

>>40666337
Kobo changed her streaming style every few months, from April to June it was similar to Windah, from July to September it was similar to Manca, and she has been going aimlessly since then