/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>40489862
>>40489927
>Homobeggar being an actual pedo

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>112,852: Towa (Hololive)
>97,685: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>87,794: Nijisanji (Nijisanji)
>46,497: Marine (Hololive)
>40,886: Pekora (Hololive)
>37,019: Marine (Hololive)
>36,971: Miko (Hololive)
>36,190: Suisei (Hololive)
>36,137: Pekora (Hololive)
>34,519: Suisei (Hololive)
>34,150: Suisei (Hololive)
>31,600: Miko (Hololive)
>31,296: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,749: Marine (Hololive)
>24,748: Amelia (Hololive)
>24,645: Subaru (Hololive)
>23,523: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,942: Toya (Nijisanji)
>22,813: Miko (Hololive)
>21,897: Subaru (Hololive)
>20,400: Kanata (Hololive)
>19,930: Noel (Hololive)
>19,157: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>19,080: Sonny (Nijisanji)
>18,165: Nene (Hololive)
>17,965: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,441: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,600: Okayu (Hololive)
>15,232: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,167: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,711: Kanae (Nijisanji)
>14,158: Mio (Hololive)
>13,869: Nerumero (Indie)
>13,762: Flare (Hololive)
>12,623: Mio (Hololive)
>12,533: Hayato (Nijisanji)
>12,468: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>12,327: Fubuki (Hololive)
>11,702: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,539: Salome (Nijisanji)
>11,384: Kaida (Nijisanji)
>11,362: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,218: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,155: Debi (Nijisanji)
>11,114: Amamiya (Nijisanji)
>11,067: Kobo (Hololive)
>10,249: Subaru (Hololive)
>10,222: Akina (Nijisanji)

>>40489927
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>40490093
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo
6) Nerumero (Indie) - 39,961 - Genshin update mirror stream
7) Towa (Hololive) - 122,852 - Holo New Year MK Cup 2023

>PER COMPANY
6x: Hololive
1x: Indie

>PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora, Towa
1x: Hololive, Nerumero, Watame

That last reddit screencap was something else huh.

>>40489833
We literally have analytics from cover so just use that

>>40467510
>>no yonkisei nor gokisei

>>40490161
That shit is 2 years old at this point.

>>40490039
>>40490095

>>40490039
go back

>>40489603
>Are you being deliberately obtuse?
projection at it's finest
the "brigading" part is because T-chan linked it into fucking Discord, which will cause the upvote/downvote ratios to be affected by whoever views that post from Discord, thereby making it brigading.

>>40490039

>>40490202
Yeah sure but it's not like anything has really happened in the last 2 years to make MORE girls watch the holos

I decided to do a little research to determine if this year's Towa's marika tournament was more successful than last year's one.

Of course, obvious ccv metric isn't available, because of ccvid, so I compared other metrics:
1. Waiting room right before stream start (draw):
This year - 31628
Last year - 38541 (however stream was delayed for 2 minutes)
2. Chat activity (last year wins):
This year - peak at 1125 messages per minute
Last year - peak at 1570 messages per minute
3. Superchats (last year wins):
This year - $2338
Last year - $4363

Conclusion: last year's real ccv was probably the same as this year if not bigger.

Sources:
https://vrabi.net/video/KDyJmdtclAk
https://vrabi.net/video/U_IW6CyYn1k
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/KDyJmdtclAk
https://holo.poi.cat/stream/U_IW6CyYn1k

>>40490039

Enjoy this last "paceful" hours bros, as soon as the homo debuts begin this place is gonna be an even bigger shithole.

>>40490161
Axel said he has about 50% female viewers as far as I know

>>40490242
By your logic, everytime someone linked a reddit post it would count as brigading regardless of the intention, because it would affect the number of upvotes
Look up what brigading means instead of doubling down

Well I am just gonna be objective and say the jester guy seem the most promising. Debut 40k peak and I am being generous

>>40490330
Yea I know but that anon wants something conclusive we could post. It's nice to have the anecdotes but I think the shit that cover released is the only hard analytics we have

>>40490161
>>40490277
Didn't Subaru talk about her channel stats recently? Iirc the male audience actually got bigger (and older).

>>40490330
Until I see actual charts, whenever a dude says they have a large female audience, I don’t believe them.

my cute wife

>>40490422
So Vox's audience is all men?

>>40490424

>>40490423
Fauna also mentioned hers and said the age demographic was roughly the same between 18-24 and 25-34

>>40490330
30% of that are trannies

>>40490324
I'll be sleeping thankfully.

>>40489927
that guys chain on vyt ended up with retards saying that EN fans "entitlement" to EN3 is the same as how CN fans were behaving.
I had no idea reddit was filled with more retards than here

>There are a lot of dude who watch dude t-trust me
>Get shown statistic
>D-doesn’t count
What’s wrong with being watched by female now? Didn’t homobeggar said female fans are more valuable because they manage a family financial or some shit

>>40490324
Honestly, I'm not expecting it. I'm betting on a flop, which would mean some GRIMposting about the debut numbers being ass, followed by some grumbling about Tempus2 being boring/cringe, and then fuck for weeks afterwards all apart from Illuna/Xsolei grimpost comparisons.

>>40490286
Nice detective work, check the numbers again next year.

>>40490475
Homos, to be precise

>>40490475
It would not shock me if there wasn’t more males in his audience than we have been lead to believe. I would certainly like more evidence than some dudebro bragging about having so many gurls watching him.

>>40490522
I don't think you're following the discussion properly

Looking grim for Tempiss 2.0 so far

>>40490489
>EN3 is the same as how CN fans were behaving.
Judging by this board and general after they announced the debuts, I have to agree

>>40490286
If the theory that EOP usually chat way more is accepted, it could also be another site of the trend of western fans not watching JPs as much as they used to.

>>40490330
Wait how is his superchat compared to the other 3? If clover is so determine to chase the female market he should be making bank if he has 50%.

>>40490324
We will not be in this thread near their debuts, nor will we be watching when they go live.

>>40490489
vyt is nijiniggers sub

>>40490621
Can't look at superchats since they have more of a membership gifting culture

>>40490610
Not even Reddit cares, there is like 2 post about them in the top 50
both twitter interaction with respectively Ollie and IronMouse

How are Tempus “senpais” treating their kouhai so far? Any shill?

>>40490324
>he hasn't gotten accustomed to all the small corp generals yet

>>40490610
don't worry the chinese fujoshis will save them

>>40490639
Their debuts will be liveposted harder than your redesign

>>40490540
>check the numbers again next year
No need for that unless there will be another ccvid next year.

>>40490352
Yes, that's EXACTLY what it means.
Reddit used to have something called "non participation" links, which were what you were supposed to use when linking reddit posts outside of reddit.
Those who clicked the posts would not be able to upvote, comment or interact with the post in any way (you had to manually correct the URL to do that, and that filtered 90% of users).

New reddit kinda threw that in the trash, but the rules are still the same.

>>40490671
https://hololyzer.net/holostars/channel/UC2hx0xVkMoHGWijwr_lA01w.html
You do know those gets tracked as well, and they in no way make up for how shitty his SC earning is?

>>40490618
More like they're leaving because EN isn't keeping their attention and actively shoving things they don't want down their throat.

>>40490522
homobeggars will cope this

>>40490489
There might be a shit ton of retards and schizos /here/ but at least we arent encouraging cover to make braindead decisions and produce flops

>>40490615
Beyond /here/, no one is even talking about Tempus2.0. The Hololive subreddit has not posted anything in the last 12 hours about them or the drama. It’s mostly the vtuber subreddit that is filled with dramafags bitching about parasocialism that is mentioning it on reddit.

>>40490618
Idk about that. It's JP chat who constantly spam with grass or W or some retarded reaction

>>40490676
shouldn't T-chan be changing the pins and header soon?

>>40490286
yeah but we have to take into account the new youtube changes that rolled out end of last year with people being ghostbanned in chat and retarded recommendation changes. As to superchats being lwoer it;s probably because she didnt qualify to final round.

>>40490808
lel, for all the "I closed the sub because of the ebulz 4chen :)" excuses the mod gave, nobody really cares about the homos

>>40490834
eh it could go either way i think. Towa's chat was like 50% Gura posting during block B

>>40490834
Yeah, I personally doubt it as well, but it gets thrown out as a reason for EN's way higher participation rate despite a much lower CCV on streams compared to JPs.

>actual pedos defending homobeggars
>moris friend drugged and raped another chuuba
thats EN for you

>>40490767
Holy shit, you are still at it

>>40490911
im currently watching and she is barely mentioned by chat

>>40490352
Yes, how the brigading rule is enforced on Reddit, and it is exactly as retarded as you describe. Reddit mods are scared shitless of it because it can get their whole subreddit killed.

ETA for the tempoop debut? I'm not gonna watch but I just want to make sure I'm awake during the meltdown.

Honestly the reaction for these new dude seem mild. Even if they push for girls collab there wouldn’t be much reactions since Tempus 1 already took the novelty away

>>40490039
I love how even lolicons are freaked out by this shit

>>40491008
>Reddit mods are scared shitless of it because it can get their whole subreddit killed
Use your brain, they get killed for attacking/brigading other subreddits and those mods complain to the reddit admins

Fucking grim...
What did I do to deserve this

>>40491044
It’s noon JST, meaning seven hours from now?

fucking hell, this is some Jurassic tier recommendation...

>>40490763
His ccv improved but the money he makes is just dropping off a cliff. That is bad, hope his fans buy his merch.

>>40489862
>>40489927
top fucking kek

>>40490776
Homobeggars try to convince themselves they’re destroying idol culture (while knowingly destroying potential income for women who struggle in traditional streaming) by claiming that audiences are predominantly female. But we rarely so actual statistics to prove that they’re mostly women. Plus there’s plenty of braggarts within male vtubers who like to think they make the ladies go wild when it’s mostly ironic straight male weebs that watch their content because “uwu I can’t watch a gurl vtuber!”

>>40490994
>actual pedos defending homobeggars
Ehhh, where?
>>moris friend drugged and raped another chuuba
Nah, it was an acquaintance of her friend.

>>40491004
Don't know what to tell you bro. I know what I saw. We might just have different standards

>>40491044
I don't know who this cutie is but she looks like she's good at Mario Kart.

>>40491101
they're just pretending to be outraged

>>40490867
she knows people are watching her mod activities now

>>40490324
I just filter all the EN stuff, it doesn't bother me

It’s 5AM JST!
>I hereby declare the “horse race kenjo time” over and the GRIMZONE in session
What’s in the GRIM menu for today?

>>40491044

>>40491211
Given that everyone else has their own frame while Gura doesn't, that's fucking nothing

>>40491196
Here i'll post second pic soon

I don't get why you keep asking for EN3. Going elsewhere honestly sounds like it should be an option more people need to consider. There are a ton of other English vtubers in other companies or even independent. If people need something to keep them busy while they wait for their oshi's return, they have a whole wide world to explore. It's impossible for one company to meet all the demand all the time.

>>40491248
The ruination of HoloEN, comrade.

Can they break 30K before debuts?

>>40491284

>>40491044
>Posted a homolover holo

>>40491248
We've been in the GRIM zone for the past 3 days

>>40491044
They start at 4AM for me. I'll miss it but it will be fun to see the state of this board when I wake up.

Did any of Tempoop beat any of these guys 15 hours to debut?

>>40491275
I'm not trying to make some statement about the amount anon.
I'm just saying that there were only 3 ENs this 2. two of them sucked ass and whenever the 3rd did well the chat was full of posting about her given

Given that, it is reasonable to think that the total chat amount may be lower this year compared to last because of the lack of ENs

>>40491284
>>40491333
just combine them jesus christ

>>40491334
Yeah, they seem to be speeding up, and there are still 7 hours until their debut.

>>40491101
I’m a haglover, damn right I find pedos gross. I can deal with people who enjoy anime girls, but real life stuff? Yeah, they should be thrown into a fucking pit.

>>40491161
That's Mumei' dream harem

>>40491362
Didn't tempus 1 have more time before their debuts?

>>40491248
Why does she have a tourniquet on her leg?

>>40491345
Not really, Mario Kart couple of threads were some of the best in recent memory

>>40491334
the clown should, not sure about the others though.

>>40491101
2D > 3DPD
real children are gross, same as those who lust after them

>>40491180
>>40491284
>>40491333
>>40491381
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Archived just in case. Though everyone will probably say "so what".
https://web.archive.org/web/20230107200857/https://www.reddit.com/r/nudism/comments/104a80o/comment/j3d1sc4/?context=3
https://archive.is/Lon8X

>>40491334
They should. The ones behind are later so they have more time to do it.

>>40490489
>>40490646
Not even surprised. Did you see that post that anon made a day ago showing posts on the vyt subreddit? They were downvoted to oblivion for saying that new members for holoEN can help drive more collabs and bring more opportunities for the branch to do projects/act on ideas, and people responded with things like "They can collab with Tempus then" or "It's a viewers problem that they aren't watching others and can watch Tempus instead"

Those people are fucking demented

>>40491362
You know, seeing the new guys, these OG Tempus guy suddenly ain’t looking too bad. At least they don’t look gay

>>40491450
I think these new guys are going for the fujo audience.

>>40491450
Most of the gen 1 members look like they would be in a game aimed at a male audience

>>40491450
I’ll be sincere: I was aware of at least Vesper and Magnis back then, this time I don’t even know any of their names or models.
All I want is for 4PM JST hit fast so they can be consigned to the garbage bin of history

>>40491366
Kronii didn't do worse than Gura

>>40491506
Kronii objectively did worse because she got into the Zako cup. I don't care about points totals when the groups have different talent levels

Towa almost graduated near her debut and now she's a pretty big shot within the company. is it possible for Laplus to do the same or is she too fucked in the head? one thing we know is that Yagoo loves a good redemption story

Lots of recent Ollie cosplay in the SEA cosplay scene.
Looking at those, she actually has a very good model!

Her model’s “grey” face hurts what otherwise could be a very good model and I’m 100% sure she could pull a Salome, redebut as Olivia and succeed

>>40490330
50% who consider "themselves" to be females, you mean.

>>40491605
Ollie's biggest problem is in no way her model, but her personality. She was by far the standout hit in ID2 around debut cause of it.

>>40489927
bruh

>>40491601
I believe it is possible. The first step would be to stop or extremely reduce RM shit.

>>40491640
God i tought ASMR's where a buff GRIM

>>40491601
Towa is hardworking. I can't say the same about La+

>>40491662
Literally waht else did you expect from that kind of faggots?
https://youtu.be/0i4VBhm81UU?t=176

>>40491640
They probably don’t even consider themselves females. It’s just straight dudes who won’t watch any female streamer, period.

No way a spic named Bazoinks Hacka will get more than 20k ccv on his debut.

>>40491746
>Bazoinks Hacka
Wanna bet he'll try to collab with Bae because of the name?

>>40491746
Im expecting 15K ccv

>>40491601
Possible but would require a lot of work and a senpai willing to aid her.

>>40491746
>Bazoinks Hacka
Is that really his name, or you making a joke?

>>40491781
they're all gonna collab with bae anyways and with ollie.

>>40491746
Idk, Young Sheldon is the pinnacle of comedy.

>>40491211
wishful thinking
she gets no more comments than the others

>>40491601
It's not impossible for Laplus to do a comeback, but it IS impossible for her to pull a Towa.
Towa's yab happened so early in her career that she wasn't well established yet; it was in the process of trying to redeem her image that she developed the character she has today.
Unironically, I think pic related did more for Towa's career than any song did for any other Holo (with the possible exception of RIP for Mori).

Laplus, on the other hand, started already at the top of the world and just spent months and months tumbling down. The entirety of 2022 is a stain on her record.

>>40491815
I bet you'll never know

>>40491746
Gonna bet your balls on that anon?

>>40491601
>>40491874
Pekora will save her

>>40491396
She’s into petplay, not bestiality. She’d want to join them.

>>40491927
pekora only saves the worthy

>>40490912
I mean they're way too "gay" to generate organic interest from hololive fanbase, people watching both niji EN and hololive who infest the sub might be used to shit like that but they're really not into VOX&co either and that's the direction they seem to be going with this "expansion".

>>40490330
I watched a bit of Axel and I believe him. he's the type of guy that yumejo would fawn over

>>40491746
Betting 1 or 2 testicles?

>>40491875
I will probably see a screenshot with hlhis name, but I'm not going to retain that information

>>40491746
>Bazoinks Hacka
this is truly a wave amongst generations uh

>>40491812
>a senpai willing to aid her.
JP has plenty of positive influence. the ball is on her side of the court. she needs to put in the work and commit in order to redeem herself

>>40491246
Give me a list of your filters please. My own aren't enough.

>>40492148
https://youtu.be/DRsVDZvmaAE?t=344
>As you are aware, all content available on the platform must follow these guidelines, regardless of when they were uploaded or when the policy was implemented
so how much is this going to impact vtubers

>>40492245
didn't mean to reply

>>40491246
>missing out on looking at [Deleted] schizoposts
ngmi

>>40492292
newfagchama...
>>40492245
slowpokechama...

>>40492245
not many of them swear in the first 7 seconds of going live

>>40492332
Hell their intro screens lasts longer than that

What the fuck

I hope the manlet, bazioing and samurai are being gay ironically.

>>40492410
We are reaching levels of sex that shouldnt be possible

>>40492332
>>40492384
You’re missing the point. This rule includes “swearing too much” and, as usual, can be applied selectively enough to fuck, let’s say, Kiara or Ame in some of her outbursts

>>40491601
It's not really fair to compare the two considering the nepotism already in place with Towa, and Towa was already a very headstrong person of doing shit she wanted at debut, even if she is menhera. Laplus has yet to show these traits at all to really be a redemption story, but it's not like she's permanently in the gutter either.

Gavis will be EN salami

>>40492538
Botted to shit?

>>40492538
so a flop?

I remember shitposting at nijiniggers when people posted that gay asmr dude and they said it was Sex Gaywire's roommate. I feel really foolish now

If I was a newly hired homo I'd literally punch the manager who told me my name will be Bazoing

>>40492465
its also the fact that youtube is saying it doesn't matter when the rules get changed all content you upload should follow them, even content made before those changes

>>40492538
botted to fool retarded suits and then a flop?

>>40492637
I mostly shitposted about the pornhub dude, even got me a vacation.

Does HolostarsEN do GivenName FamilyName for the guys? I can't really tell with their names

so how did the ens do at the mariokart tournament?

https://youtu.be/gWAOrv5MbXI
/become/ UI

>>40492940
R

>>40492950
A

>>40492940
A

>>40492824
Japanese name order. FamilyName GivenName. Yes, that means Axel is going by his last name these days.

>>40491601
Their situations are very different anon.
Towa was the runt at debut and has slowly worked her way up over the years.
And even now Towa is still kind of a shitter. She's only really good at hosting 3D lives and collabs.

On the other hand Laplus was the star at debut and has just been reclining and barely streaming for a year, getting more antis and doubling down on doing dumb shit that pisses people of.

>>40492940
P

>>40492940
E

>>40492978
Yeah I knew it was like that for the girls but Stars names are weird and not obvious at all so i wanted to make sure. Like who decided on "Gavis" as a family name

>>40491101
they just desperate to cancel something homo related

Man seeing the high end numbers that Holo JP as being getting lately why do i feel that JP7 will insane debut numbers

>>40493295
because they absolutely will

>>40491101
2D isn't real, 3DPD is.

>>40490767
More like they are abandoning Myth with no Ina or Gura to lead the gen. CouncilRyS is thriving, getting more superchats, giving us kino content (BYE BITCH), and just being fantastic overall. I said from day one that I already like Council more than Myth and it feels good to be validated.

>>40493295
They will, I could honestly see them breaking the 200k barrier for a debut.

>>40493367
Especially now when the homos cannot stream over their debuts

>>40491601
Pekora gave her a chance early on and it looked like she was going to take her under her wing but then she stopped caring about being in Hololive.

>>40493101

>>40493295
>Ado, Bocchi, Lulu, KoroAzu, Anemachi
jp7 looking stacked

>>40493295
I want Jp7 to debut already because i'm tired of holox shilling

>>40491601
Non-zero chance, but she needs to COMMIT to Hololive, and hard. If she insists on the short streams, she needs to do the Fubuki style 2x short streams a day.

>>40493423
Ah yes, the homos and their 2K audience are gonna make a difference.

>>40491874
Laplus can be saved based on her talent alone. She is arguably the single most talented person they have ever hired. She is a great singer, an amazing dancer, and has a super creative mind (her design choices are kino). All she has to do is dedicate herself to Hololive and her pure talent will do the rest.

>>40491640
> calls himself brotuber
>do BFE content
bruh

>>40493561
Probably a bigger difference than the other way around

>>40493598
Has he ever called himself a brotuber? He seems like the most fujobait of tempiss.

>>40492927
they may as well have not entered

heh, it’s not the first time (MollyRedWolf did it way before, more than a year ago) but I’ll take that as a compliment to Gura popularity in Japan.

6 hours left
Homo status?

>>40493705
Code?

>>40493563
I have discovered in my years of following this hobby with great talent comes great menhera.

>>40493728
As GRIM as it was 10 hours ago, cover interns are spamming the catalog as we speak tough.

>>40493742
I’m mobile now, and it’s old too.

>>40493563
>dedicate herself to Hololive
that's the hardest part for her
>>40493753
I don't know how the Fubuki and Sora remained sane and not become a menhera after all these years

Reminder:
>Can't sing for shit.
>Not fluent in JP.
Nepohire 100%

https://youtu.be/TaTxIrzsSqc
is Flare a menhera whisperer?

>>40494109
what

>>40493928
Easy, it's because vtubers weren't as big as they were today and Hololive was a speck of what it would turn out to be. Also, because Sora and FBK were legitimately great hires that served as rock steady pillars.
>Tsunderia flopped because Kana couldn't handle the pressure.
>Mito was a great hire hence why Nijisanji became big in the first place
>AkioAir flopped because none of their hires stood out
>Phase has Pippa but I'm still wary how far a /here/tuber can actually go
If anything, this proves that instead of trying to swing for the fences and get a Gura or Pekora, new corpos should focus on getting a stable roster first before going all out.

>>40493728
At least won’t look like absolute disappointment with homo standard. Also way too gay to mesh well with the girls

>>40494408
so, hags?

>>40494408
It have always been about getting talents who will stay long term. If they get popular that is just extra

>>40494452
The truth is... The game was rigged from the start.

>>40494109
who?

>>40494452
always

>>40494547
stupid miso soup woman
you will always be old

i feel JP7 should drop right before holofest
how does the calendar look like for late february/early march?

>>40493705
wait another one or is this dude just really late?

The only time NijiEN talk to Kuzuha and it’s this

>>40494109
Are you talking about Amelia Watson?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm8S8UgdbL4

usually the one who organizes a project/collab is the one paying for it
For example Axel covered all the costs for the cover he did with Ina and the other girls because it was his project
that also dispels the rrats that it was originally Inas idea and she willingly joined a homo project

Honestly, is Laplus more redeemable than Mori? Mori is that person who puts her friends (coworkers) down (but in a whimpy haha I’m just joking gurl kind of way) while desperately trying to hang out with the anituber crowd (a group of yotubers so low in he list of shitters that only dramatubers are lower).Refuses to accept she’s wrong. Is a trust fund baby and potential sexpat living in Japan while she barely speaks Japanese and hangs in Japan and hangs out with other potential English-speaking sexpats. Auditioned to Hololive as a joke with her friend, who actually wanted to join. Is Laplus more redeemable than that?

>>40494585
i wonder what their name is gonna be

>>40494452
Hags are part of the formula, yes. Hiring exclusively young people will make you prone to menhera fits, but doing all hag gens might narrow your audience too much.

>>40494635
I thought that was clear from the start? Ina was having that idea too then she saw Axel doing the same thing and decided to join to save time and efforts

chances of Ina's return beating tempiss debut

>>40494635
it's more the director-san dickriding afterwards were they promised funds for more project the problem

>>40494664
does it? there are many flavors of hags though. for example, I'm pretty sure Botan's fanbase is different from Mio's since they offer different things.

>>40494652
Trust fund babies do not wait tables at Applebee's.

>>40494808
50% chance

>>40493928
Sora is more autistic than Aqua

I'm sure it's been discussed before, but I wasn't there so -
Talents who do superchat readings tend to earn more from superchats, right?
Chloe and Koyori read supas a lot, and they're the top 2 SC earners.
I'm pretty sure Kiara is the top SC earner in EN, and she reads almost every one of them.
There was a time when Mori was the top SC earner in EN, and there was a time when she read a lot of them.
Fauna is the top SC earner in Council, and she reads them quite frequently.
There's definitely a correlation.

>>40494849
Wealthy people’s children get low-rent jobs all the time.

>>40494635
Axel didn't pay for shit, management did. He mentioned that himself afterward.
Another instance of favoritism

>>40494928
It’s attention, people send SC cause they want it to be read, in turn, reading SC give people more reason to send it

>>40494585
Late Feb, after the 22th, is probably doable. There's some birthdays but none major.

>>40494652
Their both kinda shit but Lap is more redeemeable just because she has the rest of the holohags to potentially correct her. Mori is EN1 so she has seniority over everyone outside of Myth. There's also no clear locker room leader in EN that can smack her in line and even IF we ever do get an EN FBK, she wouldn't have the clout or seniority to tell Mori to not act like a dumbass. I mean, could you imagine if the 2nd in command for HoloJP was Festival of all people?

>>40494928
pretty sure this is what Scarle does which is why despite her dogshit CCV she gets great superchats because she gives them the attention they want immediately too ive heard.

>>40494933
In America they do, at least. Maybe not the super wealthy ones, but the regular wealthy people push their children into jobs in some pathetic attempt at learning the value of the dollar or whatever American boomers talk about.

>>40494617
messi... Hmm kuzuha and Pekora to much on the same wave length here.. Are we even sure they aren't the same person? I have never seen Kuzuha and Pekora in the same room before.

>>40495039
for scarle and aia there has to be also the allure to be able to groom a major corpo chuuba

>>40494408
Prism have a mostly stable roster and they are deep in the shitter

>>40494844
I get it, but you really do need a young gun running wild in your roster too.

>>40495093
Funny thing about Finana is that she let the discord poorfags groom her so her paypigs left.

>>40494954
No, management was so amazed by the song performance that they decided to pay for his next project. Let that sink in 90% of that song was sung by Ina.

>>40494933
Wealthy kids work at their parents or family company usually.

>>40495106
It’s sad how Prism turned out. They had a lot of potential before Sony washed it all away.

>>40495086
Maybe not today but more often than not Kuzuha would always find a way to be right next to Peko on the tally
That time Pekora got randomly pushed down by Korone to be right on top of Kuzuha was funny

>>40495146
yeah that's why i didn't include the fish, she did everything wrong.

Alright, /#/, you've been wanting to say it so now's your chance, let's hear it

>>40494652
Laplus is more redeemable for the fact that she got BTFO and now has the opportunity to learn her lesson.
Mori has never - and probably will never - had to face any consequences for the shit she has pulled and will continue to pull.

>>40495225
i love tempus

>>40495225
I hate idol culture

>>40495225
I'm t-chan

>>40495161
it's a reward for doing a male female collabs
from that point onwards cross gender projects get preferential treatment and female only or solo projects get pushed down, sabotaged or ignored (see the Gura daki situation)

Going to bot the debuts.

>>40495225
Ayame isn't even cute enough to warrant all the ATMs sucking her off. Chole is superior in every respect.

>>40495194
Their CEO cashed out, basically all you can say.

>>40495225
I envy how easy it is for women to shave their nether regions.

>>40495225
Males shouldn’t be allowed in vtubing.

>>40495352
good that will make their normal streams look even more pathetic, like iluna

>>40494928
It's a really direct correlation. Reading and interacting with SCs makes people want to SC more. If you read them instantly like Scarle does it makes it even more enticing for attention whores and paypigs to do it.

They're really going to clear 4 hours of Sunday afternoon HoloJP streams for Tempus aren't they? Are the times for these debuts actually good for NA audiences?

>>40495106
I'd argue that there was a time when prism was poised to be where current PC is today. The issue is they never got that one chuuba who could make them a legit force. I know Pippa isn't everyone's cup of tea but she 's definitely a top Indie talent. I'd argue that wihtout her, PC might have turned into another prism or a slightly better Tsunderia before their talents left.

>>40494928
Is this somehow not obvious?
Every fucking time someone starts their superchat reading part they get flooded with new SC from people because they know they will get read on stream.

>>40491601
more likely than most people would like to think, she HAS TO understand her current position and appreciate the opportunity she has

>>40495465
they are targeting the chinese audience

>>40494611
He’s late.

>>40494408
Pippa is the Gura of indies. Just like Kana was a long time ago (when Tsunderia was relevant). It's riskier but way more rewarding than just grinding things out at like 120 ccv forever. She put them on the map, and maybe someday she'll fuck up colossally, but for now times are good for PC.

>>40495465
Well I thought it was 5 because of the extra hour from the group collab right after.
I suppose 4 hours is slightly less grim than 5, although I'd prefer if it was 5 so that nips have more reason to be pissed at Tempus.

>>40495225
I have mapped out Yagoo's route he commutes to work and tomorrow I'm cycling over with a spear. It will be a duel on our metal steeds in the early morning hours.

>>40495476
If Luto streamed more, she might have been that. She has a sex model and a cute, retarded voice. And a pretty fun personality to boot.

I just realize NijiEN general of all thing split into male and female general

>>40495580
It's 4 hours of debuts, the 5th hour is probably their group collab, but I'm not sure that would also be protected from overlap as it's not a debut.

>>40495615
They do and then people realize there's not enough activity for their liking and come back to the main thread to fight with each other.

>>40495615
are you telling me the NijiEN fanbase wants gender segregation?

>>40495510
I guess not everyone is grateful like Koyori. That's probably due to mayo dog knowing how rare this opportunity is since she's been in the industry for a long time whereas Laplus is a brat who happens to win this golden ticket.

>>40495678
Not the actual fanbase, but a decent portion of the people on /vt/ yes.

>>40495615
Not really, some people have been trying the female split for a long time, it never gets enough traction. Anyone who has stuck out with NijiEN this long for female talent alone has a particular oshi who probably has their own thread, not an interest in them all as a group

>>40495411
Shaving dick and balls is ez, bro. Just hold the skin real taut. You'd have to really go out of your way to cut yourself.

Here is the number of gagged holo art I have in my folder. Merry Christmas!

Aki 4
Aloe 1
Ame 17
Ankimo 1
Anya 4
Aqua 27
Ayame 16 (thanks draw anon )
AZKi 2
Bae 4
Botan 25
Choco 8
Chloe 30
Coco 12
Echo 2
Fauna 3
Flare 7
Fubuki 55
Gura 34
Haachama 13
Iofi 1
Ina 13
Iroha 7
IRyS 3
Kanata 10
Kiara 11
Kobo 1
Korone 15
Koyori 2
Kronii 11
Lamy 27
Laplus 11
Lui 7
Luna 6
Marine 66
Matsuri 21
Mel 7
Miko 7
Mio 19
Moona 6
Mori 24
Mumei 5
Nene 6
Noel 19
Okayu 18
Ollie 4
Pekora 26
Polka 4
Reine 3
Risu 6
Rushia 20
Sana 2
Shion 11
Sora 10
Subaru 9
Suisei 66
Towa 11
Watame 8
Zeta 1

Link to the folder.
https://mega.nz/folder/5tg20KTR#tv_cJVAYWvlAmQkMCXE23g

>>40491601
Towa just got caught slipping. Laplus seems to be a willful basket case.

BETS FOR WHO HAS THE HIGHEST CCV AND WHO WILL HAVE THE LOWEST

>>40494844
Put yourself in the shoes of a young woman who just became millionaire overnight
Would you work your ass off everyday like usual or stop working and start enjoying life with all the money you just earned?

>>40495465

>>40495772
Pomu doesn't, but Pomudachis don't really go there when Pomu isn't streaming. When she does like half the thread activity is Pomu stuff.

>>40495834
i wanna stick my dick in crazy <3 laplus

>>40495858
>Would you work your ass off everyday like usual or stop working and start enjoying life with all the money you just earned?
I would keep working until i can ensure that i don't need to anymore, provided that i don't like my job.

>>40495847
all of them will have the lowest LMAO

>>40495934
>I would keep working until i can ensure that i don't need to anymore, provided that i don't like my job.
They literally don't need to work anymore with all they've earned and will earn passively

>>40495847
Betelgeuse will have the highest.
Rice man will have the lowest.

>>40495814
is this a hlg repost?

>>40495847
Lowest, whoever goes first. Highest, the 3rd guy. 4th guy starts at 1 AM EST he's kind of fucked.

>>40495847
Hakka will have the highest.
He has the second-last debut so the relay effect will be in full swing, and he will draw in the spic audience who won't watch anyone else.

>>40495510
>she HAS TO understand her current position and appreciate the opportunity she has
that's kind of the crux of the issue though. People in Lap's age group have a tendency to be menhera because to them the world is their oyster. Add to the fact that she didn't start at the bottom so she doesn't really have a goal that she can work towards. Towa and Luna were the runt of their gen which coincidentally also had the biggest breakout star (at the time) in vtubing in Coco. They had to pretty much work hard or else be left behind. It's the difference between running ahead of everyone compared to running behind. You can push yourself more because you have a clear goal in front of you while if you're ahead of everyone, you don't really know what's going on behind you so you might slack off

>>40495847
Jester highest
Fag with his chest exposed lowest

i just hope the laplus debacle didnt influence future gens in a detrimental way

>>40495999
I thought samurai was the spic?

>>40495986
It's a number post in the number thread

>>40495999
Which one is the spic, the gay shota?

>>40496068
Might end up as a positive. We could get a "chill with the roommate shit" clause in the contract. You'd miss out on future talents like Noel but I don't think it's a huge loss.

>>40496068
just like sana didn't affect EN3 scouting......oh wait

>>40496097
>>40496131
https://twitter.com/banzoinhakka/status/1611161706155106304
nope, banzoin hakka

>>40496220
I mean we have no proof she did cause they're too busy finding homos.

>>40495225
i only come here to shitpost , i watch both niji and holo streams. i also have a girlfriend and i don't really care about vt's cuckwarfare

>>40496164
>You'd miss out on future talents like Noel
Only if they choose their RM over Hololive, and I find it hard to believe would happen given how massive Hololive is nowadays.

Okay but seriously why more homos
And why after only 6 months
What am I missing

30K SUBS DORYAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>40496164
All things considered, despite her tendency to fuck up her opsec, Noel has been very professional with how she's handled her roommate and her Hololive persona. The fact that her RM stuff doing sexual shit has barely affected her holo fanbase is a testament to that

>>40496385
an aggressive marketing

>>40496393
it's over bros they are a success

>>40495999
If the spic homo is the most successful one, we're definitely getting holoES, right?

>>40496385
Desperately trying to dethrone Luxiem.

>>40496385
IDK maybe they got 6 guys they really liked and figured the other two would fuck off for Niji if they didn't hire them, but they didn't have 6 models ready so decided to do 2 X 4 gens.

>>40496378
>I find it hard to believe would happen given how massive Hololive is nowadays.
Lap just did that though. It was completely moronic too. Maybe the next grifter they hire will have the good sense to at least be competent for a year.

So anything happened since Ame's live? I was in coma

>>40496393
All four of them combined are almost as strong as Meloco. Cover's scouting team wasn't playing around this time.

>>40496393
No...

>>40496493
Define "most successful". If he's 2.2k ccv average and the rest are 1.8-1.3k that's not an enormously compelling case. If he blows the fuck up in South America ala Vox in China then yeah, mark it down. And get ready for 14 waves of Niji ES too.

>>40496068
What the hires who've disappointed all have in common is that there's something they'd *much* rather be than a cartoon idol. A cartoon idol company shouldn't hire anyone like that.
The youngest ones tend to have trouble, too, because they haven't failed at anything yet. The first adversity they run into, in front of so many people, fucks them up. La+ and Haachama seem to have bonded over that...but they're both not streaming anymore, so we don't get to see it.

>>40496549
She had sex with me live on stage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDyJmdtclAk
10 hours after it hit 1.2M it only got additional 70K views
half ayear ago this would have been at 1.6M already. Youtube will die in this decade. Screencap this.

>>40496393
Anyone know what the first set of fags had before debut?

>>40496549
Holo MK tournament beat Nijis Mahjong tournament today. Many a Towa lewds were had.

>>40496540
Laplus was more of a case of thinking she could keep both. If management puts her in a position where she has to make a choice, I think she'll choose Hololive.

>>40496385
They started working on them before first homos debuted

>>40496393
INCLINE

>>40496540
Haven't she fucked herself on the rm as well then? problem with real antis is that they often stick around.

>>40496493
Might be a test run so, maybe? What would even be considered as a "success" for Tempus2 anyway? let's assume that their metrics are below Tempus 1 in all categories. What would be the minimum that would be considered as "success" and what threshold would they need to fall for EN management to break the emergency glass (EN3)

>>40496685
some anon posted that it was around 45k with a print

Did anyone see Suisei trend after winning the cup?

>>40496549
over 2k posts shitting on pekora for losing even though she was never good at MK in the first place lol
it was kino

>>40496396
Noel decided to take a short break from her roommate when she saw stuff from there start splashing over into her Holo timeline. She's the only one that i have any confidence can handle the roommate shit. Everyone else just does retarded shit and tanks their numbers

>>40496493
Yes but only if he goes full spanish
I will never understand why kronii never speak KR to test the water

>>40496385

>>40496770
towa is trending in gaming at #1

>>40496685
45-50k
Debut was spread over two days with five days from the announcement so the later ones gathered a bit more steam. Likely won't reach that number with this gen though, hype seems lower.

>>40496774
I figure there was some salt cause she got better number than most being a loser
But it also show how many people want to root for her to win despite everything

>>40496385
I don’t know why this keeps being said.
Cover is absolutely right in debuting more homos in half a years time. 4 is not enough people to sustain anything and it opens the branch to more viewers and more interest as you can’t just have 1 single person (Vesper) carry a branch.

What isn’t right is Cover not debuting EN3 yet and why they’ve taken almost a year and a half to debut anyone. If EN3 debuted already no one would fucking care or talk about this because ANYONE WITH MORE THAN 10 IQ knows that whatever Stars is doing is exactly what people wished happened for HoloEN or any fucking branch that needs help; Actually fucking debuting more people and providing support to them. But because Cover has been fucking TRASH and DOGSHIT at handling HoloEN, people are doing this weird glare at StarsEN for doing what has to be done there.

>>40496755
This is what I don't know. Like with Tempus 1, Axel and Regis are already on the bubble of 4 view and have gone to to 3 view often. These new guys by pretty much all metrics are looking to be less popular than Tempus 1.
If they end up as a gen of like three 3views and maybe one 4view, is that really a success?

>>40496785
She is fucking hopeless that's why

>>40496734
Yeah, it seems like not all is well in her little group and the clout she gained from being in hololive is wearing thin.
>>40496717
Maybe, maybe not. They'll probably just let her wallow between a rock and a hard place. Someone like her could use direction but that isn't something Cover gives to anyone.

>>40496755
They're not gonna do EN3 for months now no matter what. Probably April at the very earliest. Absolute worst case scenario for Tempus 2 is Holostars JP numbers. You see that, you may never see Tempus 3. That is very unlikely however. I think if they can stay 4views most days they'll meet expectations.

>>40496685
This anon >>40491362 posted how much the they had 15h before debut. I assume it was over 50k just before debut.

>>40496880
completely agree. Only person in this thread with greater than 70 IQ.

Tempiss getting new guys so soon isn't the problem. Especially since they only have like 3 members of EN they can interact, 4 people is just not very sustainable
What's NOT ok is that HoloEN was never afforded this same opportunity

>>40496880
>you can’t just have 1 single person (Vesper) carry a branch.
Funny you said that because Vesper didn't stream shit this month yet and was already reclining to normal numbers after returning from the suspension. Altare put way more work recently.

>>40496880
People would still be mad (or pretend to be), especially here, but it would be more muted elsewhere.

>>40496971
If they were reinforcing the auditions for males before they even saw how the new 4 homos performed, I'm afraid they might be planning to debut StarsEN3 regardless.

>>40496880
>4 is not enough people to sustain anything
Myth carried it alone for nearly a year and they didn't even have a previously established EN branch behind them giving them the biggest collab buffs they ever had.

>>40496385
ACCELERATION

I wonder what made it so easy to find 8 male candidates in less than a year but at the same time impossible to find 5 female ones, for a more popular branch i might add.

Things will return to being okay after Holofes4. Myth and CoucilRyS will have their 3D and idol outfits, same for ID. And HoloX. And Lapchan will be doing some wonderful streams after returning from rehab. And Gura will return to posting her schedules after having made a full recovery.

>>40496760
>>40496815
>>40497025
Thanks, love you

>>40497291
Myth and CouncilRyS will go back to not streaming*
Ftfy

>>40497272
Management willingness to look for them

>>40497291

>>40497291
>Myth and CoucilRyS will have their 3D and idol outfits
Will they get to use them?

>>40497272
Incredibly low standards. Axel was a complete nobody. Altare almost was. Those two wouldn't have even qualified for Niji EN. Vesper was Bae tier at best but can't sing and doesn't speak Japanese. Only Magni had something resembling the type of portfolio the mainline ENs typically have. I'm guessing these next 4 aren't any more high profile, especially since 2 of them got hired in the initial auditions.

>>40496880
I think the only way they could have salvaged this was to debut EN3 at the start of December and then debut this new homos after wards. But even then, that's more putting a bandaid over somebody's decapitated knee. In hindsight, the perfect play for the Homos without having change their lineup or changing any of the girl's actions would have been something like this.
>Stick to the brotuber larp
>Tell Mori to fuck off and focus on their stars senpai
>Regis actually telling off Ame for involving him in her Ameway bullshit with the karaoke duet thing.
>immediately steer clear of Kronii the moment she started to have her "WAHMEN" 'moment
>Avoid the twitch eceleb crowd at all cost
>Reach out to PC, Prism, or other small to medium corpos (except for kawaii) and pull a Roberu. Afterall, even though they might not be Hololive, they still have HOLO in their brand name
They still wouldn't be Superstars but I could easily see them being regular 2-3k shitters with a higher ceiling for events. Plus they would have kept everyone's goodwill

>>40497493
If they spend money on their own home3d set up sure? Their own money specifically, Cover has other things to spend that money on of course.

>>40497291
Things will never return to being okay. You're blind if you don't see that Cover is trying to not repeat JP's "mistakes" and basically join Hololive/Stars EN at the hip. They new gens will debut in a completely different cultural context where they won't even consider NOT collabing with tempiss. Half of "holoproEN" will always be men, which JP never had to suffer through. The branch has been dealt a death blow even if these guys flop/no one immediately collabs with them, and they fucking will. Ollie and Mori will absolutely start making the rounds and organizing collabs ASAP.

>>40497055
Vesper’s last streams before break involved a 6hr long stream that he had over 3k viewers the entire time, and 2 chatting streams that peaked at 3.5k and 3.6k each. That’s pretty much as good as you can get for a Stars. Actually, in one of those chatting streams he got $1.3k in donations. Like, the level of productivity rhere is more than fine for whatever the fuck goes on in Stars land.

It’s easy to imagine why Cover is debuting more people. It’s completely different management, and a branch separate from holo that’s making good money. Again, it’s questionable why Cover hasn’t done anything for EN3 if they can afford to do things for StarsEN. THAT is where the complaints should lie, because that’s what’s fucking stupid and absurd.

>>40497291
There's a better chance Gura graduates than ever posts a schedule again

>>40497536
Most of the upcoming 4 are somewhere inbetween Axel/Altare and Vesper, with one of them being closer to that Bae/Vesper level. Nothing close to Magni though.

>>40497493
Ame just used her 3D

>>40497651
Ame's a unique situation though, where if she really wants to she can use her own studio whenever she wants.

>>40495770
Eh even chink sisters split into multiple faction nowadays and dislike some of the other collab members.

>>40497536
And despite that Tempus is still regularly ahead of illuna and lolisex in terms of ccv.

>>40497561
This isn't a map for growth it's just a map for how they can avoid annoying you personally. Which isn't as valuable as you might imagine.

It's surreal to me how 6 months there were no en homos and now there's nearly as many as the girls
Kinda gay

>>40497586
I think you meant Amelia instead of Mori.

Tempoopbros we will show our worth tonight. The Vox killer is upon us.

>>40497593
>It’s completely different management
No it's not, this is the source of the problem and the seethe.

>>40497713
I wouldn't say regularly, those were two higher than usual streams. They definitely are about level with them and often bob above them though. I don't think very many people would argue the two most recent niji generations are explicitly above Tempus in any significant way.

>>40496880
>Cover is absolutely right in debuting more homos in half a years time. 4 is not enough people to sustain anything and it opens the branch to more viewers and more interest as you can’t just have 1 single person (Vesper) carry a branch.
StarsJP proves you wrong their latest gen are all shitters and didn't help the group at all. ID Gen1 proves you wrong again they did better than Tempiss in a bigger market and with even less members.

>>40497713
Yeah they're literally the only 4 so far. Those others are like the 9th wave. I think if they debut like 16 dudes into Tempus you will see this occur also. 8 is halfway there so we'll see how that goes.

>>40496880
you're right to an extent but these things don't happen in a vacuum, obviously it's good for the homos to get all these nice things but it demoralises an already demoralised holo en fanbase even further
if the holo en girls fanbase is 5x times larger than the tempus one and this move pisses just 20% off them off while making 99% of the stars fans happy that's a net negative, most might be too cucked to chimp out about it but i'll bet you anything more will be quietly leaving seeing their branch in terminal recline while the favourite child keeps getting lavished

>>40497752
Let's be real. If these dudes start to flounder, it's gonna be a group effort from the four usual EN whores with the possible addition of Ina. These dudes nosediving would send Mori straight back into early 2022 Mori with how obsessively she tries to 'break the barriers'.

I don't care how many gen Tempus released. I just want EN3...

>>40497561
Honestly, as much as people want to target this and that, I feel like 2 primary things happened:

One, which was that StarsEN seemed like they were collabing with girls every other day.
Two, in conjunction with above statement, was HoloEN shitting the fucking bed and producing absolutely no streams and no collabs themselves, which led to viewers getting /more/ angry than necessary over StarsEN when the reality was that HoloEN just wasn’t streaming enough for people to ignore it.

If HoloEN had 8-10 streams a day, it wouldn’t have mattered. What people started getting frustrated over was that HoloEN was doing 2, 3, MAX 4 streams a day, so when half the days streams is with StarsEN people are gonna get angry.

That’s just my take on it though. Maybe others won’t see it that way but I’m more willing to bet unfortunate circumstances soured the opinion of Tempus, and all the drama surrounding them when no one was streaming enough to compensate for the tension.

>>40497793
I'd say it definitely happens often enough to be considered regular.

what is tempus’ audience? who do they share their audience with? is it mostly holoen fans? nijien fans? tourists? because that could say a lot about how successful or unsuccessful tempus 2 will be. if they’re just filling an already full box without outside expansion, it’ll be worse for all of them as more resources that should’ve went to holoen go wasted on these losers.

>>40497886
Man I don't know how to tell you this... EN3 isn't even gonna be good, we all know it... MAYBE there'll be 1 out of the 5 (if they even give us a full generation) that is like Kiara where she acknowledges but doesn't go full homo. But in reality its likely gonna be five Mori/Kronii types.

>>40497741
I already mentioned it's not gonna turn them into superstars, anonchama. Unless the initial HomoEN lucked out on a male Gura, none of this niggers were going to grow. The best they could have hoped for was stagnation but still being able to set up a solid foundation for the next gen, which is still better than slowly reclining and having little to no goodwill for the next gen.

>>40497909
I think if it's just one of the Tempuses streaming, they beat them nearly 100% of the time. If there's two however it often ends up about even.

EN3 is being trained for a longer time because of how incompetent Myth and Council are.

>>40497974
But what if it isn't like that? Didn't a bunch of anons confrim that omegay was fired a while ago?

okay but shut the fuck up about tempiss for 10 seconds and look at my daughterwife being cute
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_KedeHHV2vY

>>40497796
No offense to starsjp but their hires of starsjp candidates is pretty shit except roberu and astel. All of them feels like niche streamers instead of well rounded streamers. Have you ever seen any big la creatividad stream from them like holojp? They don't go actively go out for collab to try to increase more their exposure except roberu. They don't have unique stream ideas nor big box events.

>>40498080
That's a cute daughterwife you have.

>>40498080
peanutgod status?

>>40498072
Omegay is just a scapegoat. The entire EN management is rotten to the core

>>40497862
Mori is currently on full "return to the box" mode. She might be dumb as a rock but she's also an experienced clout chaser. If none of this dudes make a good impresion, she'll live them to rot instead of sacrificing her dwindling audience.

it's over

>>40498072
I know Kiara said that Omega is gone or something, idr exactly what she said. But it sounded more like a joke in the moment. I certainly hope they are but that would seem a bit too logical. Although who knows, they haven't had one of their weird twitter posts even though Tempus2 debuts in a matter of hours so maybe they really are gone.

>>40495225
hagxloli are the best ships

>>40498185
mane-san would never do that

>>40498185
Thanks mane-san!

>>40497958
Considering how the current Tempus memebers need to keep raiding each other in order to maintain a "acceptable" CCV, I'd say their audience is simoly composed of "the people who still didn't stop watching Tempus."

>>40498072
The concept behind Omega the character was retired (at least according to Kiara). The thing is it's not just one person behind this stuff, it seems like the whole management is on board with the direction the branch is headed.

>>40497713
>>40497909
>Tempiss have to compare themselves to the bottom of the barrel from Niji
Nothing will justify debuting more people that can't even 5k on buff as fuck streams when they could bring more girls

>>40498185
mane-san nooo....

>>40498185
Bro come on you gotta make it more believeable

Why are Kaela's subs still the lowest in hololive despite all the streaming she does?

>>40497792
Isn’t holoen and homoen management shared? Since that’s usually the lie that they are separate entities the beggars use to convince people why they fast-tracked more homos with no en3 in sight.

>>40498185
>gura
>retweeting anything but cunny art or merch
embarrassing bait

>>40498180
She want something like TT in StarsEN, not homosuckers

>>40497974
>is like Kiara
that's bad tho

>>40497958
This is from one of their reasonably well-attended (for them) collabs with Deep Rock Galactic. It's mostly Holo EN fans with a bit of Niji overlap. Most of the "niji fans" are just Holo fans who watch Pomu or Selen on the side. They have a 15% overlap with Selen and the highest Niji male (besides the recent Xsoliel debuts) is Luca at 4%.

>>40498185
Dogshit edit anon

>>40498273
I think the individual managers are different but the head managers or whatever you wanna call em are shared.

>>40498185
good timing but fake as hell

>>40498185
OH NO NO NO NO CUMSHARTKEKS???

>>40498185
Her cunny belongs to them now...

>>40497291
Things ENcuckz tell themselves at night so they don't rope themselves on the spot lmao

>>40498270
Unironically it's harder to get subs for everyone lately. Probably something in youtube algorithm

>>40498185
Made me check. Wouldn't be surprised if management try this as desperate move

>>40498288
In the grand scheme of what EN is gonna be like in the future, Kiara's approach is literally the best you're gonna get. Hold on tight to your Goobs, Mooms, Faunas, and IRySes. because when they're gone there's nothing left.

>>40498185
They got me earlier with the Stars ID one. This one is too on-the-nose to make anyone fall for it.