/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40373747
would you rather fight 100 3views or 3 100views?

Aren't you a little too late on this. I already saw a ton of posts last year predicting audition calls on January. so this was expected. they'll probably just release one gamer wave, no counterpart bullshit, then release the new ones later this year.

>>40373844
lol 100 views doesn't even make sense but i get your point anon. anyways, wasn't this expected? like I swear a bunch of people not even on twitter were expecting opening auditions around jan-feb.

>>40373747
The entire point of NijiJP is to have so many niches to choose from that you pick one or two that appeal to you and go with it.
Guess they want NijiEN to be the same.

>EN3PLEASE EN3PLEASE EN3PLEASE
>Niji trying to get new people? EW

>>40374022
I’d rather they go in that direction, yeah. I’m tired of this unity bullshit that’s leading to endless collab spamming and the better livers falling influence to the bad ones.

>>40373747
>Enna oct 2021
>kyo july 2022
>have offline collab
It's not too late... you can join too, they'll have 100s of member in the future you can save depressed 3 view for offline meeting

>>40374022
Yeah at least EN went slow with it from their usual standard. Didn't JP release like 60+ livers in a year when they were just blowing up domestically. So yeah expect these announcements come by here and there.

>>40373747
They're accelerating.

>>40373747
>he doesn't understand the true implications of Nijisanjification

>>40373747
Newfag doesn't know Niji accelerates all the fucking time.

>>40374140 (me)
Forgot to elaborate, but with such retarded unity shit, the point that is picking the appealing livers and ignoring the rest is rendered moot with how often they let other retards in their streams, or with how much they fill their schedules with pointless collabs and leaving nothing else for their own content.

>>40373747
A C C E L E R A T E

>>40374206
I know this a meme and all, but this is pretty tame and slow for Niji's usual acceleration antics. They're probably trying to get as much livers in the branch so that they could do big events like the main branch, but on the EN side.

>>40373747
>Dozens of literal whos and twitch thots getting in
>We will never have the comfy Lazusydia days again
Took those few months for granted.

>>40373747
Probably, yes. ACCELERATE is meant to make the company’s success less reliant on the success of any individual talent. The whole point is to reduce the amount of leverage any one member has.
They’re basically trying to be like a small corpo in terms of their members’ numbers, but have a lot of them. Honestly, it’s why I’m baffled that /#/ still compares NijiEN numbers to HoloEN numbers, as if the former cares whether one of their streamers has a higher ccv or not.

This is a race to the bottom

>>40374453
It might come back if NijiEN ultimately splits into cliques like JP. I think for the most part Lazusydia has remained fairly intact, aside from Finana being poised to mingle with a possible Aster/Aia group, but most people regard her as the worst one in Lazusydia so barely anyone cares.
The only problem though is Luca possibly forcing himself into the group. Dude needs to fuck off for real.

>>40374493
>as if the former cares whether one of their streamers has a higher ccv or not.
They axed two branches because they were failures
EN is obviosly nowhere near the level of ID or IN, but it's also retarded to say that niji doesn't care about numbers when the livers themselves talk about how management always tells them to grow their numbers by any means

>>40374493
>The whole point is to reduce the amount of leverage any one member has.
It's a bit scary.
>Hey you guys just kind of tossed me out there with no other support.
>lol what you gonna do? Leave and ditch the brand name boost? Get back out there and get my money, bitch.

>>40374022
The entire point of Niji is so that (You) become a Vtuber. That is the world Riku wants. A world made of Vtubers for Vtubers by Vtubers. An economy of Vtubers. Accelerate.

>>40374931
I kneel acceleration man

>>40374711
That's honestly how the girls over in HoloEN should be treated.
Maybe they'll stop being lazy.

>>40375023
lmao get the fuck outta here. Other people will cover for your oshis when they don't stream, that's the whole point of Holo

>>40373747
>Accelerate faster and faster so the unicorn lard buckets can't keep up the pace

B A S E D
A S E D
S E D
E D
D

>>40375135
>3/10 of the girls stream
>Of the 3 that stream, only 1 is unicorn friendly
>The 1 that's unicorn friendly has chicken voice.

>>40374632
>They axed two branches because they were failures
You mean three, but to be fair IN was a massively colossal 1view failure not even any 2view company would consider keeping and it's incredibly baffling how they even considered marketing to pajeets in the first place, and KR was drama-ridden with horrid management and one of their livers being an actual drama pest to the point of legal trouble.

ID though was doing fairly alright as a literal small-corpo tier branch mainly composed of 2views with a few low-tier 3views (prior to Mika leeching Luxiem off into 4view fame), but they were also ''axed'' (read: absorbed to the main branch) along with KR. Niji definitely cares about numbers, but their standard is lower than what /#/ thinks and as long as the majority of a branch are at least 3views, they consider them successes. Management is definitely trying to put NijiEN head-to-head though against HoloEN, which is why they're being pressured to grow their numbers especially as HoloEN is falling into an era of decadence and their fans look for another corpo.

>>40373844
>would you rather fight 3 lvl 100 pokemon or 100 lvl 3 pokemon?

>>40375303
Sounds like a (you) problem. There are 4 other HoloPRO and other 4 are coming in like 2 days.

>>40373747
100 3views? They strive for 1000 2views

>>40375523
You don't understand. I have the mind of a teenage girl so I can't watch the guys. I'll see them as competition instead of entertainers.

>>40375409
Are those F.E.A.R ratattas? I know my odds.

>>40375327
I think KR is doing better under JP management and are getting recognized thanks to Alban and Uki. ID is still on their own bubble, but you have Bonni and Layla doing occasional collabs with en and of course Mika.

>>40375523
Why would I watch NijiEN Lite when i can just watch NijiEN?

>>40373747
ACCELERATE

>>40375523
oh look a tempiss faggot made it here. stop shoving those guys in our throats. you're not even on a holo thread.

You didn't hear it from me but I've heard rumors that Niji's strategy is to debut new waves at a rapid pace. It's a little known industry secret so keep it hush, wouldn't want this knowledge going around too much.

>>40375523
Lol this guy really expecting the fujos to watch these fags. Aren't your guys brotubers? have your male unicorns watch them oh wait ---

>>40375805
Tempus feels like some dudes being dudes.
NijiEN feels like I'm third wheeling on a date.

>>40374931
Once everyone is special, nobody is. If nobody is special, what's the point of it and why would people give them money.

ENTERTAINMENT FACTORY
>>40374370
>>40374206
>>40374381
>>40374954
SPEED UP THE PRODUCTOIN OF MORE LOW QUALITY MASS PRODUCED TALENT

>>40375998
Kek. someone here only watched Vox and Luca. Spotted another tempus jerker. Go back to your lane.

>>40376047
Lol I can't with these guys. We have an "um, ack-shually" schizo here. You know some people are just shitposting here.

>>40373747
3views turn a profit, even for a corporation. so yeah why not

ALSO ANYCOLOR AT LEAST WATCH MY SUBMISSION VIDEO

>>40375998
third wheeling? who the fuck did you even watch, vox is an autistic menhera and luca is just twitch lingo galore. hex maybe has that vibe tho. the other guys are pretty chill aside from your usual psychos like sonny, kyo and mysta.

>>40376225
>>40376049
I tried to watch a bit after the guys debuted and it was multiple people chatting in an open Discord voice chat, every stream. Even the girls.

>>40375998
"Tempus feels like some dudes being dudes" is a tired-ass line every tempiss fag uses here to convince themselves that tempus was a break out success. Even male unicorns gave up on those guys once you announce starsen2 ahead of holoen3.

>>40376326
>Even male unicorns gave up on those guys
huh. Aren't male unicorns the constant NOOOO M*LES bitchers?

>>40376298
Every stream? These tempus schizos never give up do they? Finding every little thing to make as an argument. for luxiem, they had a collab ban in their first few weeks and they mostly collabed with each other, same goes with every succeeding wave. i only remember pomu entering one of dc calls to insult mysta.

>One of the NijiEN chuubas flew out to fuck the other one
>Flirted and played with each other's hands all stream
>"What do you mean 'third wheeling'?"

>>40376503
Kek. and enna probably loved it. more power to that bitch honestly. probably likes ntr as well.

>>40375327
>lower than what /#/ thinks
A streamer that has around 1000 viewers consistently is already in the top 1% of the whole streaming scene and is able to generate a considerable amount of profit. And the standardized merchandise of Vtuber further makes it profitable. Even Shibuya Hajime is able to treat Vtubing as his job, and he's a literal 3 view shitter in the company.
/#/ is infected with numberrotted brainlet that knows nothing outside of the number of Niji and Holo.

>>40376421
Lol just don't mind them, a lot of these tempiss deflectors are just desperate shitposters at this point. And to be fair, they're pretty entertaining trying to make things big and getting reasons out of their ass.

>>40376654
>Says they don't like a thing
>Defenders themselves provide example of thing happening while still saying it doesn't happen.
>N-no they're just desperate...
Who's desperate?

Nijisanji appeal is about offering many options to the viewers on members to watch. Designs, personality, content, you name it, the options exist for you to pick whoever you want. Of course they have an interest in money too, and more members means more possibility of a big hit and if not to still monetize, but theres also positives for us as viewers with more options and possibilities of you getting someone you like over time. this is what most anons here and most yt, reddit and twitter fags dont understand about how nijisanji works and think only the hololive method should be done. And because of fucking FOMO.
>>40375327
Of course Anycolor cares about numbers and money, but the problem is that anons think if one or two do "bad", it means the branch is going to die. They look at the branch as the entire branch, so KR and ID of course are disappointments in that sense, unlike in EN where the majority are fair above 1k in CCV alone, not even counting revenue.
As you said, their standards are low for viewers so they likely dont mind a branch existing if most of their livers are in high 3view so between 900-500

>>40376636
Isn't Hajime like one of the OG nijis before hololive was born? Yeah he seems like a chill guy that probably saw every drama in the book when it comes vtubing. Nothing phases that emperor at this point.

>>40376736
ha? I'm trying to relate this to the conversations that happened but I'm not following with what you're getting at here. Seems like a whole different narrative.

>>40376775
>probably saw every drama in the book when it comes vtubing
He WAS the reason of many dramas on the early day of Vtubing though. Once literally hated by even the early Nijisanji fandom itself, but still loves (or you can say depend) this job enough that he decides to be the last one ever to leave Nijisanji.

>>40375303
>unicorn-friendly
how is your disability relevant?

>>40375594
Hmmm, you're right

>>40373747
>to have a hundred 3views
Sounds like a good plan honestly
>3views already counts as decent success for streamers
>Decent fanbase sizes but not big enough to have a split between the same fanbase
>Any drama shit wouldn't get out of hand easily since there wouldn't be that many people flaming that drama
>Talent and fanbase can get more intimate and more customized stream catered to their taste without many people complaining
>Wouldn't put too much pressure to the talent since the number of viewers are not that huge
Business wise there aren't that many negative using this model

>>40373747
>Are you fucking for real?
Yes, its competition

>>40373747
Yes?

>>40374618
>>40374312
Unfortunately nijiEN "season 1" (first five waves) is a thing and they will keep somewhat together

no, their plan is to have a thousand 2 views

>>40373747
It wont stop until all your small corpo darlings join in

>>40376009
Once you own everyone there's no need for money. Free labor ahoy

>>40374618
Luca ruins so much oh to think I liked him at first

>>40375409
>*dies to Struggle recoil as my PP runs out against 100 pokémons*
At least with the 3 lvl 100 mons, i can cheese them out

>>40375409
A level 1 Aron can defeat a level 100 non-ghost type pokemon.

>>40375998
https://youtu.be/iv3nQ0TuoaE

>>40374381
What make you think they not just waiting to do a shotgun release, 10 days 20 release. Spam spam spam

>>40375523
Can you faggot understand what preference is? If i play genshin, why would i travel watching some faggot ass when i could watch some girl. Retarded homofaggot.

>>40376225
>Kyo and enna exist
"Trust me, it not cuck if you don't jerk to them"
faggot, why would i watch some homo going on a date.

>>40376047
Off-topic, but if we keep the parallels with factory then:
>MASS PRODUCED
Is true
>LOW QUALITY
Is false, because factory goes by a strict quality standards. It's the opposite - hand made goods are significantly lower in quality than the factory made ones.
So the correct one would be - mass produced, high quality

>>40393780
Cause obviously that wouldn't happen. But it's actually a funny thought, you actually made me laugh. ok back to being depressed. The best spam they got is releasing three waves a year and it still wouldn't touch the numbers of the main branch. My prediction this year is the gamer wave releasing around june and the other one with the new audition around maybe november.

>>40373747
Lolisex is good, need more sex wave

>>40377894
Good business for niji, bad for holo though.
Holo specialize on talent enhancement, with concert and now going into Protolive and Holoearth. Having many chubba to support with limited resources and bringing lower view and income, isn't a good business practice in a long run.

>>40394039
lol i don't even watch the two cause their voices hurt my ears the longer I watch them. i only watch enna's covers and karaokes tho since that bitch can actually sing.

>>40394237
i'd normally agree with this, but in the number of years they've been on the scene, anycolor is practically one of the richest companies in japanland and their concerts and festivals bring just as much people like hololive on the domestic side. trust me, the years I've been watching them they have a ton of resources already and they're still supporting even the defunct 2view-3view branches.

>>40375998
Some pomudachi weeks ago make a good points.
Nijien is full of male that can't never stay in their lane, this ruin any experiance with their chat, want to have a solo stream nope a homo got to join vc, want to read sc nope a homo want to collab reading, want to watch collab between 2 girl nope homos got to join because the girl just an accessories and they incapable of denying them.

The other anon are right, it like watching vtuber on a date. We just a viewer not an engaging chat.

>>40373747
100 3views? Imagine...
500 x 100 = 50000. That's 50k viewers everyday!!!

>>40373747
Better than making 10 girls support an entire multi-million dollar branch by themselves for 3 years straight, while purposefully sabotaging them with 2view homos that nobody wants to see.

>>40373747
Why would they stop? Aster, Aia and Scarle are the only consistent 3view and even Scarle gets huge sc.

>>40394536
yeah kinda annoying at times but it doesn't happen as often as that pomudachi said with the girls if you watch their streams regularly. pomu gets the most interaction from the guys when on Minecraft from chat and during collabs. well, she, selen, and luca are mods on that server so there's that. doesn't happen frequently as people think but guess it soured the mood of that pomudachi tho. pomu's and selen's fans have the most diehard unicorns for the nijigirls so understandable.

>>40373747
Applied. This is my only chance to get into Finana's butthole

>>40394896
Maria is also 3view territory at times, but manages to pull out 1.0-2.0k ccv out of nowhere even if its like hours into the stream already. like wtf

>>40374618
>>40386697

What's Luca doing? Genuinely asking since the only thing I caught was him fucking up the Maikura serba

>>40395520
He's a constant surprise guest in a lot of streams, particularly the girls'. While I personally am not bothered with male-female collabs, the dude is simply just plain annoying and unfunny. His humor is POG, POG, POG, and twitch lingo, he sometimes malds to the point of being too genuine, and worst of all is that his shitty lingo has infected some of the girls that I like, such as Meloco or even a JP like Chigusa.

>>40373747
They have been doing all right, so why not keep on?
I hope they *only* hire JP ESL and show a giant middle finger to all western whores and faggots.

I don't understand why it matters. The majority are good and it's not hard to ignore the rest.

Doesnt matter as long as Pomu still streams

>>40399290
They have to stop with the retarded forced unity and collab culture shit before it's actually possible to ignore the rest.

>>40399204
Me too.
They actually tried to cancel this girl for saying “retard”.
I hope they hire more like her. All 3 girls of her gen seem pretty cool.

>>40373747
are you surprised? look at how much NijiJP has, they're gonna keep pumping out nijiEN members with no plans of slowing down

>>40400169
This complaint reeks of thread watcher. Most of them stick to the ones they have good chemistry with, now more than ever. Impromptu collabs basically never happen anymore and it's rare for them to sit in open VC outside of Minecraft or Ark, the former of which is pretty rare and has mostly become filler content and the latter only really being a thing with a small handful of members so far.

>>40400169
I'm not gonna lie, I'm one of those who is easily irked by male voices on stream. No particular reason (I watch male fleshtubers all the time) it's just a thing.
But instead of being a baby about it, I just skip those streams and watch her when she's alone or with other girls. PROBLEM F****NG SOLVED and she's still better than most of the competition and coworkers! (except for Pomu, you can't beat Pomu)

>>40375998
based
a girls stream without a male in it in nijien feels like a rare occurence now, at least with holoen its not common

>>40373747
8 billion livers by the end of the year

>>40374050
think logically why that might be different. Do they have the same current number of talents, for instance?

>>40403494
across all branches cover can't even fill an apex lobby.

>>40403541
all female branches*

>>40376587
Nah she was malding at the response. She even said her friends had to tell her to chill out at one point.

>>40393944
holy ESL

>>40373747
There are no brakes on the Nijisanji train.

They just need to hire some male who can speak Chinese and it will be better than vox

>>40373979
'i get your point'
there was no point you retard, it's a meme

Yes.
This has always been Nijis business model. Keep throwing people out there at a rapid pace then kicking out any who fail.

>>40373747
I sincerely wish that Riku would get beat up to the pulp and end up bankrupt.
>>40374206
When are they going to crash though?

>>40373747
Quantity not Quality.
A model costs 1-2k, cover song is like 5-10k.

Considering Niji doesn’t pay any salary to their talents, these chuubas will pay back their investment within a few months. Everything after that is GRAVY with no overhead.

>>40373747
I like Nijisanji but this has gotta stop. I haven't been able to keep up with the last 3 waves I don't even know who's in the company anymore

>>40406603
At least you guys get new waves.

All we get is glorified 3view homosexuals that bring no profits to the company.

>>40406603
the main branch got like a new group every 2 weeks in 2019, ffs just pick some people you like if you can't keep up with everyone

>>40373747
The graveyard isn't going to fill itself

>>40373747
Who are the 2 vtubers in the middle? I recognize Finana and Rosemi. They have so many Vtubers I don't know who the fuck anyone is anymore.
Just throw 5 more gens into the mosh pit of mediocrity.

>>40407488
Light purple head is Aster, dark head is Shu.

>>40407488
Aster is from ILUNA and does the femboy shit. Barely a 3 view most days. Shu is next to him. Big in Japan for basically being a JP liver in EN

>>40407359
Staggering killcount.

>>40406603
You're not supposed to watch everyone

>>40407488
Shu is bigger than Finana and Rosemi combined.

>>40407359
>yugo
>retired
Terminated.

I'm not a niji watcher, but do all of their talents make even get enough views to be profitable? I've got to start to wonder if they're purposely oversaturating the market to kill off smaller competition.

>>40414341
No, but nijisanji isn't running on a net loss since none of them have a salary or are getting paid
Its literally a chinese sweatshop job

>>40414341
you don't need to have more than 200 viewers to be profitable

>>40414341
I think 500 is generally the point people can manage fulltime

>>40413510
lol lmao even xsoliel and noctyx are more popular than him nowadats

>>40373747
A hundred 3 views is still at minimum 10,000 viewers.
That's a hell of a lot more than hololive's getting nowadays.

>>40373747
Unlimited headcount.
I guess they will have someone that will cover all 24 hour time intervals then?

In short, wherever you are in the world, there will always be a Niji liver that streams for you

>>40417450
this already happens very often, there's a bunch of degen night owls in the main branch

>>40415892
It's inefficient though. More talent means more support staff, which means more business expenses. Like I said, I could see them taking a loss on individual talents, at least in the short term, to kick the competition out of the market, but long term, that's a great business strategy, unless layoffs hit after the fact.

>>40422746
*not a great business strategy

>>40374493
Nijisanji is like a TV station.
We aim to be an agency that is on the air at all hours of the day.

>>40422746
looking at nijien do you genuinely believe they have 1 manager per vtuber
I'd be surprised if they have more than noor and paul li working on the entirety of nijien

>>40373747
they plan to choke out the competition

it's kind of impressive how ENfags are still stuck in 2020 in terms of vtuber industry knowledge

>>40373747
>Are you fucking for real?
Their plan is working

>>40428615
>2020fags have a 2020 level of knowledge
Not surprising

>>40373747
Vtubing is just the current step in our human journey of increasing depth of communication and connection. This environment that puts selective pressures towards ever increasing intellectual and emotional development will always favor K-strategy. This is why Nijisanji, as long as they remain r-strategist, will always be second to Hololive.

If everyone in the world become a streamer, who will watch these streamers?

>>40373747
Its a good strategy

>>40374140
>expecting NijiEN to not copying Holo
Ngmi nijibro

>>40374022
Does that explain why many are leaving and immediately being IRL streamers soon after along with the others that have graduated for other reasons? Just seems like the more you split eyeballs before the new ones have time to settle in, they are forced into a catch up scenario whether they want to or not.

Did you audition anon?

>>40373747
>Are you fucking for real?
yes

>>40373747
>commission without base salary
Technically they can have millions of livers and still functioning

Don't sweat it holobros we'll take good care of any holoEN3 applicants in our next wave after gamers.

Guess you can have Tempus 3 in the meantime.

>>40457842
Imagine niji releasing a full-female gen after the male gamer wave. that wouldn't happen right holobros? right?

>>40373844
Imagine a stream actually watched by more than 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 viewers.

>>40373747
If they can afford it. Why not?

>>40458131
Xsolei already snatched three of holo's gen3 candidates

>>40373747
>Are you fucking for real?
very real

>>40467291
good candidates as well. zaion's a potential menhera that is clearly used to the streaming setup (still doesn't know corpo rules tho and a blabbermouth but at least can generate a ton of clippable moments). kotoka's autistic but can grind streams (like kaela or koyori) and is a troll/gremlin. and meloco is the best one out of all of them, despite being esl, can actually sing and has a Japanese work ethic at least. jp girls would also love her especially fubuki. And these Nijiniggas managed to grab these girls. If only yagoo stopped sucking dick we could've have them as holoen3 instead.

>>40375745
I mean, KR had the worst management in niji history so moving to JP gave them a lot of support and optimism to create content

>>40469106
Chloe would probably like Kotoka also, tho you might faint if you get in near proximity to them.

>>40373747
Are you new?

>>40373747
yes

>>40373747
>Is their plan is to have a hundred 3vus?
Have you ever even seen the jp branch

>>40373747
Don't worry, they'll soon surpass both the main branch and VirtualReal in terms of numbers.

>>40414341
Google "Cleveland divorce attorney" and click on the first ad you see. You just cost that jew $500. That's how much a single click costs on google ads nowadays.

>>40422746
>Niji
>support
You know there's a reason they can launch shitloads of vtubers without care?

>>40373747
Learn a little marketing and you can dab on these niggas indie

>>40373747
The more applicants they get, the more likely is that they actually get a good and entertaining streamer