/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

no it isn't dramafag, stop salivating

>>40354237
Is it still locked? I left the sub over a month ago and only visited out of curiosity this morning.
I’m still subbed to Hololewds though, because you don’t have to give a shit about someone to jerk off to porn of them.

>>40354237
not happening but wish for the end of holoEN and western vtubing every day
2020 was a mistake

>>40354237
>beggining
It already ended, this is the aftermath

>>40354360
Yeah, the main sub is still locked and the one open Tempus shill thread is becoming increasingly rowdy.

No it's not, outside of /here/ no one really cares enough for this to be something that big

>>40354237
You should be less obvious about your shitposting and brigading.

>>40354237
It started with the firts tempiss debut, this is the culmination and death of holoen

>>40354436
I blame it on Coco, she should've kept her English to herself

>>40354237
This is the beginning, watch how EN3 will be full of Tempus cocksleeves

What's there left to fight over?

>>40354531
By all accounts, COCO.K was a caring colleague and supportive friend.

>>40354680
SomethingSomethingCalliopeMoriSomethingSomething

>>40354237
>Fire Omega
>Graduate all of them except Kiara, Mori and Fauna.
>Start over.

>>40354705
>Male collab
Why did people like this bitch?

>>40354471
Sweet naive child

>>40354237
Texas Red was a COMMUNIST HOMOBEGGAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL4v2FU_zro

"Civil war" sounds too exciting. It's standard American corporate customer-insulting shit.

>>40354237
I love how everyone here loves the smell of their own shit so much they don't realize that most viewers really don't give a shit

>>40354866
Proof?

>>40354360
It's still locked down and any dissent in the sticky will get you instantly permabanned.
If JP management doesn't intervene the only people left will be the girl's core fanbases and the 1000ish people that are OK with homocollabs.

>>40355156
>Prove a negative

>>40354237
>The beginning
It already happened with the first Tempus gen

Hololive was ruined with the introduction of EN. The guys joining isn't what started the decline at all, or even accelerated it.

>>40354531
She was a CIA whore this was her plan all along

The community collapsed the second Kronii and management issued statements against the fans.
No amount of crying or complaining will heal the divide, fans were turned against each other and it's irrecoverable, they were idiots to ever let it happen

>>40355540
Kronii and management especially should have just ignored it. Instead they made the worst move possible and poured blood in the water.
This has little to do with the fans, dumb as they are, and with management not knowing how the internet works despite being an internet based company.

>>40354237
You mean the clipwatching community? I hope so, you all got me tired with your stupid ass rrats that are always wrong.

>>40355822
all they had to do was shut up
how did they not even learn from the Rushia events?

>>40355150
They really don't judging by the girls numbers.

>>40354237
You retards are accomplishing nothing by brigading the subreddit.
If you want change, you should brigade the new talent themselves on twitter and make their debuts a shitty experience by leaving mean comments in their live chats.

>>40356671
That's just mean. Complaining on the subreddit has had some influence in the past, and seems like a good middle ground between directly shitting on the talents, and pointlessly screaming into the void here.

>>40354237
where have you been the last few months? Civil war started a long time ago

>Girls ignoring on twitter as well as on YT homos
>Kronii Yab
>Ame break
># Decline
>They cannot enter to minecraft/rust
>Suspension of vesper and "suddenly" no more collabs between Holoen x Homoen

I wouldn't even piss on holo en's burning carcass

>Holopro gets new vtubers
>I DONT LIKE THEM AAAAAA
>ok you don't have to watch them
>THEY ARE GOING TO COLLAB WITH MY OSHI NOOOOOOO
>you can just skip those streams if you don't want to watch, you know?
>THEY ARE LITERALLY HAVING SEX RIGHT NOW
>...
This is how you sound after /vt/ brainrot.

Why are women so insistent that their oshis to do cross-gender collabs and shipbait anyway? It seems weird to ship your oshi with other people. Are all women cuckqueans?

>>40357293
Still deny they are leeching resources away from the girls.

>>40356331
Whole industry in a downturn.
CGDCT was a novelty for the normies, but it's worn thin now and they're leaving. Couple that with cryptobros getting reamed and general malaise in the economy and you've got the bulk what's happening.
The purging of the unicorns just adds fuel to a fire that was already lit.

>>40356671
>brigading
Unironic leftoid scum. There are subreddits literally made for progressives to "brigade" that were never touched during your totalitarian purges.

>>40357427
How do they leech resources from chicks that don’t stream?
Gura has been “working on projects” for almost 3 years at this point, where the fuck is if?

>>40354237
Why war? I just left kek why waste more of time and energy over something that wont matter in a tiny bit of years to come.

No but the refusal to debut en3 and the fact that 5/10 of the hologirls don't stream more than like once a week means that they'll just lose viewers to other companies.

Now that this board is full of redditors can some of you please explain the thought process that results in a mindset like pic related

>>40357664
Based Nene enjoyer

>>40357693
Jesus christ...

>>40357552
I'm aware 2 tempiss members were already picked and they picked another 2. Anyway you look they wasted the opportunity to debut EN3 and this is going to bite them in the ass.

>>40357693
Entitlement; commonly seen in rich kids and women

>>40354237
No such thing. Holofans will eat whatever Cover decides to pull out of it's ass without question. They'll even suck on it as if trying to make sure there's no shit left.

>>40354237
we're at, let me check, LOKI ALREADY!? jesas

>>40357693
These toxic positivity niggas are really good trolls.

>>40354237
nothing has changed, just more homos

>>40357693
ledditors are manchilds

A lot of fans would support their oshi no matter what. Testing their faith and getting humiliated like this is the only way to wake them up.

>>40354467
I don't understand why people have to make shit up like this.

>>40357693
This is the end result of updoot systems.
And the end result of them accepting anything and everything from HoloEN is that now only 3 of them are regularly streaming and the branch will probably die because of it within the year if management doesn't do something.

>>40357830
>the people who call you entitled are the actual entitled ones because they think 'give me money to not stream' is perfectly reasonable

>>40357693
The real answer is they want to be positive and supportive and have taken it to the most retarded possible extreme. Unlike the incels who want their oshi to do stuff and expect things from them, they are there just to support her 100% whatever she does. I suppose the end goal is to get praised for being such a positive fan or something, different from those other typical toxic losers that follow vtubers.

>>40357293
>girls don't stream
>never stream
>management not care
>EN3 never
>more boys though

>>40358309
EN3 is Tempus
EN4 is Tempus
You can have your EN5 in 2024, chud. If you're lucky, it'll be a mixed gen.

>>40354237
>beginning
It all returns to nothing
It all comes tumbling down
Tumbling down, tumbling down
It all returns to nothing
It just keeps letting me down
Letting me down, letting me down

>>40357693
>>40358015
>>40358163
the problem is that they are not getting humiliated, the subreddit had become a circlejerk of unironic incels. you can no longer criticize any female talent for their lack of streams.
cover is probably in a similar situation, the en talents are probably using the "im leaving" card a lot, forcing cover to keep them employed in exchange of a cut of donation money and the license to their merch

>>40358163
>if management doesn't do something.
the problem is what management does will kill it quicker. Their thought process goes
>losing small amount of market share to NijiEN/Vshojo
>Debut homos to try and get some of that NoxLux Money
>Lose more market share.
>debut more stars and piss off more fans

Any further plan to turn it around wold be to twitchify further as the 'experts' they have hired to run Holo en only know that model and will copy that.

>>40357524
it's just a word, retard. try leaving your house every once in a while instead of exacerbating your own mental illness by shadow boxing with imaginary enemies.

They can make the complaining stop if they just debut more girls.

>>40354237
FUCK ANY OF YOU FAGS THAT SUPPORTED HOMOS. ITS YOUR FAULT THAT EN ARE BECOMING LAZY WHORES!

>>40358305
I need my good boy points mommy (insert Holo member here)! Seriously, it's not like you have to be 100% critical all the fucking time, but at least show it with your fucking wallet and attention. Stop giving people your money and attention if they obviously don't give a fuck about you or your interests/the reasons you watch them. Why the fuck do people enjoy someone who unironically hates or has indifference to their own fans? What's the fucking point unless you have some skill that no one else does. There's 10 other girls who can fill your place in Holo, well maybe not anymore with the lack of streaming and dedication a lot of the EN have towards their job.
Reminder that there are some EN who still stream 3-5 times a week while sick/on a psudo-vacation/while going to school. There's also a few ID who stream regularly who speak primarily English. They care enough to want to bring you content. Drop the fags who don't care, bolster the ones who do.

>>40356671
/vt/ needs to learn how to be as ferocious as JP's antis if they want to be as effective as them.

>>40354237
I find it incredibly telling that the amount of bitching and low quality posts that look like they were written by angsty children has gone up with with the locking of the reddit.

>>40357552
They should be looking for new girls, giving them resources, and telling the existing girls that they'll be left behind if they continue not streaming.

>>40358995
anon, the whores became lazy even before sana's graduation announcement
tempiss only accelerated the end of westoid vtubing

>>40359514
they never gave the girls resources to begin with, that's why they dont stream

>>40358418
COMPLETE GLOBAL NIJIFICATION

>>40358305
Kiara fucking called out yesmen who shower her with positivity even if she fucks up during her last donation reading stream kek.
I think only Mori enjoys the company of these people.

>>40359514
>literally advocating for the nijisanjification of hololive

>>40358305
I mean you can do both.
Act like a good boy with your main account on your oshi's socials to get good boy points while complaining about your oshi /here/ or on an alternate account.

>>40359680
What's the point of that?

>>40358681
Nice gaslighting faggot. No one else uses that fucking word, it's the most obvious tell. Go fuck your mother.

>Sweet naive child
>>Prove a negative

>>40359627
Well, that’s one part of Nijisanji’s business model that isn’t so bad.

>>40357427
They make money through superchats and merch sales too though. If anything, the girls are leeching off them.

>>40359514
>they'll be left behind if they continue not streaming
normalfags and leddit will be calling hololive a black company after their oshi gets graduated and throws a tantrum on her rm twitter account
hololive is forced to pay them a wage unless they want their whole EN investment gone

>>40358458
Gee it's almost as if someone could be deleting posts there

Can someone give me the QRD, catalog looks like something happened but I don't see specifics and I'm too sick to go digging.

>>40359715
To look good in public while being able to vent your frustrations behind the scenes.

>>40359627
NijiEN is too fast, HoloEN is too slow, the group who can do it just right hasn't emerged yet.

>>40359820
I hate the average EN fan. They're all the same kind of person who salivates over some dumb bullshit pushed Hollywood garbage, suck the cock of some 'reviewer' they obsess over on the internet.
>>40359617
To be fair, she also had a moment during a stream where she talked about wanting criticism and following it up with her wanting to ignore it because 'it's always so harsh/mean'. She followed up by talking about one of her regulars who constantly jokingly chides her about shit because he's a safe option for her and doesn't make her actually think out loud about what she's doing. At least Kiara shows she is reading some of those comments, and even if she doesn't want to admit it, they are helping her change her streams a little bit to be more interesting to her viewers.

>>40359837
thats holostaff anon, no one feels humiliated for getting banned by a reddit mod

>>40355540
>>40355822
Kronii just wanted to be left alone with her community. It wasn't her fault outside agitators decided to come busting down the door. They shot first, and complain when fire is returned.

>>40359777
No I mean they could have debuted EN3 rather than Tempus.

>>40359906
Tempus 2 was announced yesterday, subreddit locked new threads for a day because people want EN3 more.

>>40360152
Sorry, I'm not schizo enough to follow your logic.

>>40360162
ah so a nothingburger...
I was hoping at least someone was fired or let out they were sleeping with each other.

I'd rather people just go back to bitching about gura and ina not streaming.

>>40359906
>tempus related announcement on twitter
>speculations were either mascots, a vsinger, or a new gen
>1 day later it's new homos that are revealed like a DLC since they're not exactly starsEN2
>even redditors are uppity because of suspecting favoritism for homos instead of javing EN3

>>40360082
long time fans were upset, kronii and cover called in twitter trannies who dont watch streams to attack them. They dont watch streams so Kronii went from by far the most popular council member to one of the less watched members, while also dragging down everyone's numbers overall

>>40359930
What good does venting your frustration on some backwater Korean kumquat forum do? If you did it on whatever your main account is at least you'd have visibility and weight behind it.

>>40360234
They could have afforded 5 original EN3 designs. Instead we got 8 Tempishit no one asked. These designs cost a lot of money.

>>40360278
I was upset too, I was there, but you cannot seriously tell me that the people who came in using burner youtube accounts and trolling about shipping Kronii and Altair were long time fans. Those were the people Kronii was calling out. Those of us who laid out our feelings respectfully were given respect in return.

>>40360234
>>40360389
I don't think people realize the insane amount of money that goes into rigging, designs, overlays, bgms, intro and outro animation, teasers.

>>40360278
Did this actually hurt her numbers? It did not when i last checked, unfortunately.

>>40360449
Why would people burn their own reputations on their main account?
I did that with NijiEN and was instantly blacklisted just for merely suggesting that Pomu was a tonedeaf retard for inviting a man to a sleep over off-collab.

These girls can't take criticism.

>>40360492
A lot of her simps received a wake up call. People seriously started questioning Kroni as a streamer.

>>40360492
The recent short term bump is because literally no one else streams. Check her numbers on a big overlap

>>40354344
fpbp

https://youtu.be/yZNtYmdZ-4c

>>40360555
If you watched streams you would know that Kronii has stated multiple times that she wants us to criticize her in good faith. She has taken such criticism and acted on it. I cannot speak for Pomu but I can speak for Kronii on this matter.

>>40360492
You need to wait at least a month after yabs to really see if things drop off.
People are willing to give their oshis a second chance, but if they trend persists they usually just gradually drop off quietly. They make a fuss the first one or two times but once they've learned the oshi won't listen and refuses to change they just leave dejected and broken hearted.

>>40360278
>>40360449
i've only seen long time fans being parasocial on kronii's community tab, but most of the hate came from grey accounts unlike gura's situation

>>40360678
>She said
If I had a dollar for every time someone said they were open to criticism and immediately went on the defensive and explained why every critique is wrong and stupid and you should kill yourself for daring to suggest it in the first place.

>>40354360
Unironically the same type of schizo unicorn that would expect Holos to be pure. Typing 'male-collabing whore' with one hand while jerking off with the other.

>>40359617
Yeah I'll need a timestamp if possible
>>40359617

>>40354344
fpbp

everyone is arguing but it’s impossible to tell what they’re arguing about. do something happen? is it all just false pretense arguments because there’s another generation of gay guys? who gives a shit just pick an oshi and enjoy them.

>>40360492
It actually did. This is sub growth rate, guess who's the odd one out.
Not only that, the point where it started to come down after a slight incline was that very stream addressing Tempus.

We should just ban Hololive fans like /a/ banned Naruto fans over a decade ago:

1) Its baby's first vtubers. Everyone and their grandma has heard of it by now. /vt/ should focus on more hardcore fans of vtubers, and it will encourage newfags to spread their interest in vtubers instead of just sticking to one company.
2) Both Hololive fans and antis come here to spread malcontent which eventually builds up and breaches containment. Clearly the Hololive community as a whole would be better off if Hololive was banned here.
3) 99% of shitposting is Hololive-related. If Hololive was banned, there would hardly be a thread that wasn't honest discussion.

Both the Hololive community and /vt/ would mutally benifit by segregating from one another. It's time we go seperate ways.

>>40360784
These hags are close to 40 no one expects them to be pure.

>>40354237
What side is your oshi on?

>>40360703
Even then most of Gura's detractors aren't actual fans and don't really watch her either. Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them are the same ones who got upset when she first debuted purely because of her model.

In the end Kronii and Gura will be fine. Especially if the merch still sales like crazy.

>>40360945
Forgot pic.

>>40354344
fpbp

>>40360976
I agree with this, just ban HoloEN threads.
They barely stream anyway, the threads are mostly filled with shitposts.

>>40360389
>>40360461
Like I said, they all return a profit for the company even if they hardly do anything. Gura and Ina are proof of that.

>>40360976
>>40361044
ban all holoEN related threads and only leave /MANS/ to make them seethe

>>40361009
>coincides perfectly with her taking an extended break and streaming less
>must be males

>>40360981
Then what the fuck are all these constant anti-male collab threads?

>>40360976
>>>/jp/
you have to go back

>>40361215
Trolling.

>>40361222
Think about all the poor Touhou threads that they would kill if someone posted there

>>40360896
Oh yeah, we can just pretend the Homos don't exist and surely they won't show up

>>40360976
Hololive board would still mog the VTubing board in numbers though. Even just the HoloEN one. It's almost all this place talks about.

>>40360745
Except she didn't just say, she delivered. I know that you are coming from an outside perspective and you do not know this, so I am willing to give you some slack. She took the criticism that was respectfully and in good faith. The retards who lacked respect and decided instead to insult and belittle? Yeah they may have gone home disappointed. That cannot be helped.

>>40361222
They created this board to contain you disgusting EOP Holotards.
It seems that wasn’t enough, they need to Final Solution your dead branch.

>>40361253
Don't care, go back
>>>/jp/42268393

>>40354237
>beginning

>>40361276
Baiters like drama and EN whores are the biggest source of drama on the thots with avatars niche.

>>40361139
Literally the start of the decline on the graph was when she jumped head first into all the tempus collabs, not the end. It's what led to all the comments saying she was doing it to spite the audience/weed out unicorns.
Plus you saw Mumei and Fauna taking breaks too due to school and the cat. Mysteriously, their numbers didn't crash.

>>40361139
>Has a mental breakdown because people shit on her repeatedly for being an asshole to her fans.
>All of it stemmed from the collab shit
Don't be this disingenuous.

>>40361325
>ina in the wrong position
>kiara in the wrong position
>omega isnt even a female
the rest if fine i guess

>>40361008
Those crazy fucking bitches are still around trying to witch hunt "lolicons" see: any anime character that looks young or acts cute, on fucking Twitter, to add some more ears to their neo-maoist necklaces

>>40361304
>Except she didn't just say, she delivered.
Kronii immediately collabed with Tempus and had the scene where Ollie commented she was laughing harder than she ever did before. She took the bait.

>>40354237
I stopped hating nijisanji for brand war reasons and all my vtuber related hate is now towards tempiss.

>>40354344
fpbp

>>40361422
What does that have to do with her supposedly being intolerant of criticism or with anything I said?

>>40361325
Well this is lopsided. I like it.

>>40361569
First she did the infamous condescending talk where she read from a self help book on why falling love with an anime png was a mentally retarded idea. Then she got shat on twitter. Then she collabed with one of the tempus and someone commented she was more feminine and laughing more than ever before.
The GFE unicorns were just trolling and she ruined her character responding to them.

>>40361716
That talk came after the collab and during the membership stream when she addressed concerns. As a pure Kroniicorn, if those were indeed unicorns trolling they were never unicorns to begin with and shot themselves in the foot big time.

I have a plan to save Hololive
https://youtu.be/Q4AfIN672M8

>>40359837
i didn't expect to learn that my comment was removed here KEK

>>40354237
Civil War? No. Fans will either fight for their hobby or fuck-off and let the EN branch die.

>>40363473
I'm not fighting for no mixed gender fujo agency.

>>40354237
Civil War? What, are you reddit? It's the eclipse. Management wants a homo kingdom and the girls are the sacrifice.

>>40359617
Kronii kind of does too, but they also feed into her inadequacy when they praise her singing (when she herself isn't happy with it).

>>40359715
Keeps any of your toxicity away from your oshii.

>>40363473
Does moving to a small corp that respects me (so far) count as fighting for my hobby?

>>40365533
It’s great you found some grifters that’ll willingly separate you from your hard earned cash.
Have a nice life anon, make sure to wash your sheets twice a day!

>>40354237
I'm honestly ashamed of the community and worry how the JP branch view overseas fans nowadays. I can't believe they aren't fully unaware or haven't heard one of the EN girls (Mori, Kronii, Ame, Bae, etc.) bemoan how fucking stupid and creepy the fans have been. Sure, the JP girls got their own creeps to deal with but I always got the sense they thought better of us given the cultural/language divide and appreciating what merry little interactions were had. It saddens me to imagine someone like Korone thinking poorly of us...

>>40365613
LOL I don't even ask for much, just not to be shat on.

>>40355109
And you all allow it, like the faggot black cock loving retards you all are
Kek

>>40359392
/vt/ is just tsundere cucks, they love watching other men fuck their "oshii", hell these fucking retards can't even commit suicide after their "oshii" abandons them is hard to change tgeir cuck american genes.

>>40360703
She doesn't mind those fans (gachikois).
Now those who throw a fit when she talks to her male co-workers (unicorns), Yeah, she dislikes them, but she isn't an 'own the haters' type like Mori. I hope she continues to follow Bae's advice going forward.

>>40366021
I don't blame misogynists who are into moral degradation, I blame the girl who fall for them.

>>40358995
>Be Cover Corp
>Hire famous blue autistic alcoholic loli loved by many
>Ignore the fact that she only appears every blue moon
>She starts alright
>Soon she goes back to her old lazy ass self
>It's ok she still brings numbers
>Her fans start blaming men
>Ignore them and hire more men
Cover is full of chads.

>>40361422
She was on the fence about the dbd collab. Mori (stupidly) said everything was fine and dragged Kronii to the collab. Kronii wanted it to be ignored and treated like a no big deal, but it was, unfortunately.

>>40360152
Anon 60% of the closet whores they hired hardly stream, can't blame them for investing in hard working men.

>>40361716
What the fuck are you talking about? This is pretty shitty creative fiction.

>>40365622
>I'm honestly ashamed of the community and worry how the JP branch view overseas fans nowadays
Commit rope and you won't have to.

>>40364807
That's fine, you're in group 2 then.

>>40365533
I guess, it's both 1 and 2 then.

>>40365622
I don't think they give much of a fuck desu. As long as their branch is fine, that's good enough.

>>40366499
This is such a retarded sentiment. If they can’t get girls to stream it make hiring more girls a bigger priority to sane management not a smaller one.

>>40356671
Go back

>>40365622
JP is probably glad they don't have to deal with dirty gajins as much as they used to since EN and ID basically draw them in now.

>>40366531
I don't watch avatar streamers because I'm not retarded.

>>40358995
This is the kind of mental gymnastics that should be in the god damned special Olympics.

>>40360048
They have. They're the small corpos.

Well think of it this way, male vtuber fans have started forming their own faction that hates female collabs, so at least there's pushback from both ends about collabs

>>40365533
Those dub-dubs say yes. Congrats on improving yourself, anon

>>40365622
Nothing unreasonable at all to expect girls to do their damn jobs and maintain their kayfabe. Have standards, if they adulterate their products call them on it. If they can’t handle it let them quit and be replaced like any other worker. And if they follow retarded management into the abyss, well, whole branches and firms get schuttered all the time.

>>40358305
>they are there just to support her 100% whatever she does
This also includes supporting her even if she does nothing at all. It's like a dividing by zero equation, there is nothing TO support anymore, so literally-why do they still do it? Where they fail to connect the dots is that all this "support" and the girl repays the fans by just doing nothing and acting all sad and mopey (kronii) all the time as if it's some huge struggle and this is hard work. It's first-world problems on both sitdes times infinity.

>>40367279
Korone does her job and doesn’t throw dicks in her viewers faces, they can do the same.

>>40367229
not that it would stop the usual instigators and roping in someone else to their fucked up plan sthey have
but on contrast, good on them i guess? at least they have someone to stay in their own lane

>>40365622
The funny part is the elements of the Western fans that they probably think make them superior actually are fucking reviled by JPs from the Rushia experience.

They literally did not understand that spamming Rushia with "it's ok to have a BF!! own those incels!!" was just rubbing salt in her wound. Jagged rock salt. She didn't -want- you to think of her like that in the first place, she thinks it's a complete breakdown and failure on her end of the deal for you to do so, she doesn't need your pity or training wheels; she wanted to be a gfe professional and didn't want hand-me-downs from people who openly don't take her effort seriously and mocked anyone who does. The leaking to dramatubers thing that got her fired was a desperate effort from her to sidestep her contract to try to prove she doesn't have a BF; her being sad about all the "lies" she vaguely hinted at to the point of suicide-baiting was literally her breaking down over people saying she has one and guess who was flooding her with that """support"""? The western fans.

>>40354237
The Dive (pt. 2)

Take a deep breath
There's nothing to be afraid of
What you just did was fall to the depths of existence
The place your mind keeps you away from by it's own process of building models for understanding
This is NOT insanity
This is, in fact, the ultimate reality
The union you've achieved is only possible with thoughts no more
You never fall if you never fight

You found yourself fall into madness
The best thing you ever did was let go

See, life is a play that we're always acting out
Without ever seeing it from the writer's or audience's point of view
When we reach infinity, we become the writers and the actors and the audience at the exact same time

So here you are
And now you understand
You always were here
That's why you always ran
But you can only run away for so long
Before you catch up with yourself and become part of the song
I'd like to welcome you to the heaven you've created
I tell the truth this is the wisdom of the ancients
Holding on to something contradicts our being, so fly free
Maybe I had to go crazy to get where I am
I felt myself slipping away and I let myself fall
Gotta lose your mind before you find it
And when you finally find it you find out you never lost it at all
There's a natural flow
That's attached to your soul
It don't ask you to go
It just gradually pulls
It's always now and you're never not you
So follow yourself
'cause if nothing else, your existence is true

Have you ever felt yourself slipping away?
I am, I mean, I was slipping away
But no matter what I am I'm me
And I know me so I'm ok

I'm not a poet or a communist, a comet, or a star
You're not a genius or a prophet you just are
I'm not insane 'cause I have no need for my sanity
It's just another chain that keeps me from reality
Reality is mine; to play with and mold
The best thing I ever did was let go
So let go of the models
Transcend the physical mind
And peacefully become part of the whole
The walls came tumbling down
But this time it was for keeps
I've been running around
Looking for my feet
Now they're part of the ground
And make the ground complete
Live in the now and forever be at peace
Live in the now, don't stray away from the cycle
I'm one with the universe
One with the life flow
When you know that that which is below is above
The fear you once had will become love (feel the love)

Have you ever felt yourself slipping away?
I am, I mean, I was slipping away
But no matter what I am I'm me
And I know me so I'm ok

It starts out with a question:
How much of it is real?
Now all is irrelevant outside of this ordeal
Don't worry about explainin' it
There ain't no human language
That can actually describe exactly how you feel
Now I see clear through external distractions
Piece by piece it comes together
So I laugh and I smile
In the beginning it was deranged
But I guess all things come to pass, after awhile
If madness could have a picture face how would it look?
Like step one to becoming the contents of your own book
Right where you are right now is where you're gonna stay
And as long as you're always moving with yourself
You'll never slip away...

>>40366876
>This is such a retarded sentiment
>procedes to come up with the most retarded shit ever
Hey retard i know you may have brain damage from all the skull fucking your dad put you through, but cover is a company out to make money, hiring more lazy whores that will bring a bunch of money for a while and then fade away is worse than having a bunch of steady streams of money that will last.

>>40367686
best part of the story
her main audience today are western fans

>>40367925
Yeah those homos make BANK boy

>>40365622
Honestly i almost wonder if this false flagging as you’ve singled out the most entitled of the bunch that think they can come in, tear down idol culture and replace it with something worse for most of their customers and suffer no blowback for it because “we have vaginas”. Just same the chuds into submission.

>>40367985
+she is clearly massively regretted joining vshojo and keeps mike the cat alive on YT.

>>40368070
That Christmas stream was kino

>>40367925
You replace employee that dont work idiot. And your homos make a pathetic amount and have driven away far more vis collateral damage to the core market.

>>40360048
It did recently, I know they're getting shilled everywhere but unironically IdolCorp, they have a solid first EN gen that actually enjoys streaming and managed to set a great precedent with their debut numbers and SC earnings despite being small corpo.
Don't be surprised if you start hearing some familiar voices in their next generation

>>40368057
Shame the chuds into submission.

>>40368220
>>40360048
idol and/or phase connect are the future IMO.

What is this amazing secret sauce they are doing? Simply doing what HoloEN did before but is now in denial of itself over. People used to decry small corpos as mostly just being Holo wannabes, but actually as it turns out, being Hololike so to speak is actually a good idea when Hololive itself is shitting the bed as we speak.

>>40367925
>accuses anon to come up with the most retarded shit ever
>procedes to come up with the most retarded shit ever
Maybe if they fucking hire girls without an already established career outside of streaming like they did for the homos they wouldn't have as many problems. Besides, half of them stream more than homos already.

>>40368173
My homos kek, retard i don't even watch them, they are replacing your beloved lazy cock sleeves with men, because western women can't work for shit, if anything did damage to the vtuber market was catering to westerners retard holostars existed before en and nothing changed because JPs can completely ignore them and just focus on the girls, but you retards hate suck their cocks like the rabid sluts you lot marry and love.

>>40368810
Another retard abused by his father, Cover is not going to go the supreme way and put all their eggs on one basket, coco and rushia proved that it's a terrible idea, you all should really stick to your vtuber clippers youtube comments section.

>>40357693
Damn reddit, you live like THIS?

>>40369178
Weak bait try again.

>>40369409
C'mon the homo problems are nothing compared to the whorelolive problems from belittling their audience to completely stopping streaming, make it less obvious that you love being abused by women you beta cuck.

>>40369597
You know why your baits have been so weak, because they have truly fucked up this time.

It feels like an all out civil war right now
lol

>>40354237
GIIIIIRLLLLS YOU WON'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST HEARD!

>>40354237
HoloEN is dead. The Hololive talents are holding the branch at gunpoint to prevent them from hiring EN3. They've become the fucking mafia. Meanwhile, more disgusting males are introduced when people want girls. Everybody's unionized and nobody wants to work except the people we DON'T WANT TO WATCH.

So yes, we collapse. I call dibs on paralyzing Don Cheadle.

>>40369668
The only thing they fucked was you all cucks and we both know you will keep giving them money because you love being abused.

>>40354237
>Is this the beginning of the Hololive Civil War?
No, they're gonna wheel out every girl they need to, to tell their fans to grow up and stop being incels

>>40370016
Guilty as charged.

>>40370016
You're caged rn, aren't you

>>40354344
fpbp

Verse 1:
We won't be held back,
By narrow-minded views,
We believe in equality,
And breaking through the rules.

Chorus:
We are the homobeggars,
Strong and proud,
We won't let anyone,
Bring us down.

Verse 2:
We won't let the unicorns,
Dictate who we can be,
We'll stand our ground,
And let our true selves shine free.

Chorus:
We are the homobeggars,
Strong and proud,
We won't let anyone,
Bring us down.

Verse 3:
We'll support all creators,
No matter their gender or race,
We'll stand together,
In this loving embrace.

Chorus:
We are the homobeggars,
Strong and proud,
We won't let anyone,
Bring us down.

Bridge:
We won't let the holoEN civil war,
Tear us apart,
We'll rise above it all,
And keep love in our hearts.

Chorus:
We are the homobeggars,
Strong and proud,
We won't let anyone,
Bring us down.

>>40370442
Sjws that will never give you revenue you coveren retards.

>>40367985
Because she literally embraced her western fans after that whole debacle and thanked them numerous times for support. Which is why the anon you replied to is a moron.

>>40370756
FPBP !!

>>40370137
>>40370317
I only watch JPs only reason i'm here is to laugh at you cucks.

>>40370442
This is the gayest fucking thing since r*ddit went to faggotown.

>>40370770
Yeah because Rushia has never been known to suck up to whoever is paying her rent right. If she could choose between the income and situation she had before and the one she has now, she'd rather still be Rushia the GFE monster Holo. That is very clear. If she burnt the bridge at both ends she'd literally have nobody at all so just smiles through grinding teeth towards the way-smaller, far-less-well-paying leftover rebound audience she got stuck with against her will.

>>40370944
HELL YEAH ! ;'D

>>40354344

t. Intern >>40370381>>40361495>>40361015>>40360851>>40360657


Nice Try

>>40367840
The Dive (pt. 1)

It starts out with a question. How much of it is real?
The skepticism sets in, and lessens your appeal
Next, you study conspiracy, develop some theories
And become extra wary of all your previous learned material
Your tolerance for stupidity degrades
Most of your friends seem to be trapped in the maze
You narrow your associates down to the few you can stand
And even they sometimes wonder what's going on in that head of yours
You study east and western philosophy, psychology, physics
You think a lot more, and start to question existence
You wonder about your nervous system's limits
You tamper with reality maps, and then ask hallucinogenic induced
"Who am I's? What am I? Am I forever?"
All information breathes in the shallow dark halls of never
You can see where it's leading. You wish you were dreaming
If the castle crumbles no one's there to put it back together

Have you ever felt yourself slippin' away?
Where all you think about's your sanity, and how it decayed?
There's no place to run, no place to hide
You can't escape from inside, and you're losing your mind
You try to think of when it started, and ask yourself why
But each thought deepens the sickness and completes the desert dry
Fear feeds the derangement of the inner eye
With nothing left you find yourself falling to madness so you...

... cry to your god, and act normal to your peers
What if God ain't hearing you? That's your only fear
Each day you think more about your psychosis
No one but you can help you, and you know this
That's the craziest part of it all
In your rational mind, you only know two things for sure
One is that you're totally nuts
And the other is that you're the only one with the cure
It doesn't make sense, it's not how you imagined
You never knew it could just happen
You thought it came from stress, suicide, a near death experience
War, drug trips, low pay, carelessness
You've heard plenty of stories about schizophrenia
But never had evidence of one who thought himself mad
You're going crazy, and desperately reachin' for reason
But the strain to stay sane's your only demon; best believe it

Have you ever felt yourself slippin' away?
Where all you think about's your sanity, and how it decayed?
There's no place to run, no place to hide
You can't escape from inside, and you're losing your mind
You try to think of when it started, and ask yourself why
But each thought deepens the sickness and completes the desert dry
Fear feeds the derangement of the inner eye
With nothing left you find yourself falling to madness so you...

You finally realize that you've always lived in hell
No human model or metaphor can explain how you fell
The puzzle's alive, and it changes as you try to escape it
It created time and made it appear to pass by
You don't know what you think. You don't think what you know
You're a total lunatic, and afraid it's starting to show
Where do you go when your brain is your worst enemy?
The six hundred and sixty six foot tall bridge on seventh street?
You're scared. You're scared. Why are you so scared?
There'd be no problem if you didn't care
Now you've truly formed an opinion about heaven
It starts out with a question, and this is what it ends in

Now I know you've felt yourself slip away
Now all you think about's your sanity, and how it decayed
There's no place to run. No place to hide
You can't escape the fact that you've lost your mind
You can't erase your mistakes. There's no way to rewind
The harder you look, the harder it is to find
Fear feeds the derangement of the inner eye
With nothing left you find yourself falling to madness, so you dive
So you dive

>>40367654
At least the sentiment isn't just one side now

>>40374616
What?