/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>39,137: Watame (Hololive)
>33,083: Marine (Hololive)
>31,935: Miko (Hololive)
>27,074: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,568: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,201: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>21,497: Mio (Hololive)
>20,854: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,927: Amamiya (Nijisanji)
>16,470: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,570: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,936: Hololive (Hololive)
>13,582: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,418: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,379: Botan (Hololive)
>12,036: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,644: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,051: Nene (Hololive)
>10,506: Luna (Hololive)

>Tempus
Okay, let's restart the timeloop

>Auditions as a girl after HolostarsEN became a thing
>"Hello, my name is X and i love holoproductions, my fav male vtubers are Magni and Vesper because they are funny and le based. Ollie is my idol because she also supports the males the most."

im saying this now, the new EN women won't be as good as EN1 and 2

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>39,137: Watame (Hololive)
>33,083: Marine (Hololive)
>31,935: Miko (Hololive)
>27,074: Suisei (Hololive)
>26,568: Okayu (Hololive)
>22,201: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>21,497: Mio (Hololive)
>20,854: Subaru (Hololive)
>19,927: Amamiya (Nijisanji)
>16,470: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,570: Koyori (Hololive)
>13,936: Hololive (Hololive)
>13,582: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>13,418: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,379: Botan (Hololive)
>12,036: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>11,644: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,051: Nene (Hololive)
>10,506: Luna (Hololive)

>>40337044
>You are part of the problem.
I'm a JP chad and I don't care if my puny ublocked view using a private tab helps them make EN redditors seethe

>>40337184

>>40337213
>JANUARY 2023 GOLDS
1) Hololive (Hololive) - 142,855 - Human Rabbitality Project
2) Pekora (Hololive) - 178,006 - Pokemon Metronome tournament
3) Towa (Hololive) - 101,269 - 3rd anniversary 3D live
4) Pekora (Hololive) - 139,262 - Gamers x Sankisei collab
5) Watame (Hololive) - 39,137 - Bakatare Circus ludo

>PER COMPANY
5x: Hololive

>PER STREAMER
2x: Pekora
1x: Hololive, Towa, Watame

I heard the leak, Coco will comeback in 2025, is that true?

Instead of Tempus we should talk about how HoloEN is reclining

* MEDIAN OF PEAKS + TRUE AVERAGE, KAIGAI *
>>40210375 :: December 2022
>>40210906 :: January to December 2022
>>40216025 :: July to December 2022
>>40220089 :: October to December 2022

* MEDIAN OF PEAKS, DECEMBER 2022, TOTAL *
>>40275553 :: Top 50
>>40277406 :: Full table

* TRUE AVERAGE, DECEMBER 2022, TOTAL *
>>40279356 :: Full table

Pic related, December 2022, kaigai

>>40336741
she was on Suisei's gyakutotsu and explained where she's been

and once again! /#/ and all of the unicorn incels SEETHING over the SUCCESS of Hololive English Stars

How much crossover is there between /#/ and the Famitsu sales threads on /v/?

>>40337294
are you gonna do medians and true averages for everyone for all 2022

>>40337279
Back to indie, yes.

>people still doubt the Yagoo burning everything for the bois rrat

>>40336139
https://twitter.com/holostarstv/status/1475745275038019585
They only accept JP Holostars if they use the new Holostars form.
So the other form is only for the JP girls and to filter retards.

>>40337326
I opened it now and then about a year ago but it was just Nintendo dominating almost every top spot these days

>>40337342
Yes, this thread

>>40337209
Yes, because getting in is that easy.

>>40337345
heard that she will leave in 2024 and join hololive 2025

>>40337279
True, my dad that works at Cover and my uncle that works at Vshoujo will release the ULTIMATE UNITY gen where they will debut vshoujo, nijisanji, hololive, wactor, males, females, nonbinary, LGTV+ AND animals in the 10th generation of HOLOLIVE ENGLISH TEMPUS

>>40337433
thanks for leaking information

>>40337394
do you want to make a bet if the new EN3 girls will say "i like watching [x] holostar" or "i want to collab with holostars' in their debut? i'll screenshot this and post it when the time comes if you agree.

>>40337393
nice

Hololive fell hard compared to last year

>Due to popular demand

>>40337495
Might as well be
At least there won’t be expectations and chimp out then

>>40337399
She will transition to male and join Tempus English wave 7.

>>40337495
I mean I don't know why you want to bet that since you still need experience in content creating to join so it's not like a bunch of fangirls will just raid the auditions and all get in.

>>40337557

JP7 is coming sooner than you expect

>>40337543
Well, at the same time Pekora project seem to be doing pretty good so I’m not sure

>>40337557
>everyone hype up shota
>3rd place

>>40337326
used to be a regular there, gave up when it became nothing but nintendowinslol
will leave this place too if holo dominance ever gets that absurd but we're still some way off that

>>40337495
Ok I'll take that bet, any girl over 22 will not say such things.

>>40337569
that's kronii

>>40337557
Told you I fucking TOLD you the Jester will win. He’s gonna appeal to the Tumblr Sexy Man fan

>>40337557
Didn't even look at their sub numbers, how does it compare with Tempus(1)?

>>40337628
>everyone hype up shota
who did that? I saw some obvious shill threads in the catalog but they died before reaching 10 replies.
Also while looking less goofy than Tempiss these designs are absolutely fucking crap.

>>40337326
What about the oricon sales threads on /a/?

>>40337543
HoloEN, you surely mean.

>>40337638
You can still root for individual members rather than company at least if it gets to that point

>>40337600
It's basically what happened in iLuna and Xsoliel. Majority of the girls were Luxiem fangirls. Their "content creation experience" is pretty thin and nothing anyone else wouldn't have had. Did being fans help them get in? Who really knows. In Holo EN would telegraphing you'd be willing to work with Stars in your application be a good tiebreaker? Possibly.

>July 17th, 2022
>January 5th, 2023
Never forget.

>>40337557
Which one will speedrun the suspension arc? The spic one? Will it be faster than vesper's?

>>40337209
You joke but I 100% see ''I want to collab with a lot of people from hololive PRODUcTIONS'' being a mandatory thing in EN girls debuts from now on

>>40337557
>pre debut
Bishonens > shota > ojisan
>after a month
Ojisan > Bishonens > shota

>>40337720
In the actual /mans/ thread, people were pissing themselves over the design. They also did a snap poll and he was by the the favorite of both males and females on the thread. Surprising number of males in fact. Maybe that thread is just full of gay pedos tho.

>>40337830
They already made the ID girls do it on Debut, so yeah it's gonna happen for EN3 whenever they are allowed to debut in 9-12 months.

The news dropped about 16:30 hours ago.
Still crying. Can people stop already?

>>40337830
I mean Kaela said that on debut and still hasn't actually collabed with any guys.

>>40337888
And the grimposting will continue until anything improves.

>>40337557
GRIM Gang eating good this weelk lol

>>40337209
>Cover has the power to strangle EN3 in its crib by only accepting applicants who want to collab with Tempus
GRIM

Holy kek

>>40337694
Tempiss 1 had almost 25k after 9h
Tempiss 2 has this after 16h

>>40337726
Only EN matters

>>40337888
People are going to be increasingly agitated until EN3 actually gets here, settle in and get used to it.

>>40337888
NO

>>40337926
That's what I'm saying, it's going to be some form of template for debuts

>>40337888
If only there were streams to watch to talk about anything else... oh! but look at that only stars streams in 7 hours.

Grimposting will continue until morale improves

>>40337975
jesas

>>40337970
go back

We desperately need PekoMiko to pull something out of their ass again to distract us

>>40337975
There's less novelty. Gonna be particularly bad if they get hit with tepid sub growth AND a cull that Tempus 1 didn't have to deal with. They might get stuck behind Temma and Miyabi for months.

For those who missed earlier, here is the
> THIRTY (30) DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH
chart (now correctly labeled)

Here are some comments
1) HoloJP is still living in their very own universe and their median is close to their ALL TIME HIGH, and nearing 13k again. That's just absurd
2) HoloEN signaled a timid reaction after hitting their all time low in November 19th, but that seems to have been short lived because they're back again under 6k
3) NijiJP, with their December company wide events BLASTED back up in over 4.5k.
Let's see if they can keep a good incline or if they'll return to their mean like on summer
4) VSPO is down from their all time high and on a holding pattern under the 3k line
5) NijiEN, like HoloJP, signaled a small reaction from their end of November slump but is back on a dowward path towards 2.5k
6) HoloID is back on an incline path but down to half their highest point mid August
7) StarsEN broke away from their downward spiral but their median is still below 2k

All in all: HoloJP and NijiJP are on a steep incline, VSPO is stagnated and the EN branches are attempting a recovery from a low point

Honestly the thing to take from the way application forms are set up is the fact that there are three separate audition teams, one of EN, one for HoloJP and one for JP homos

>>40337557
are they even going to get past uproar?
what was tempus' pre-debut subs

>>40337970
You will collab with the homos

>>40337952
At least I'm back to listening to nine inch nails

>>40337970
>hides names, doesn't link

>>40337557
>60k people
>Not demand

>>40337970
that final statement really reveals why they're so bitchy about people wanting en3

>holojp pigs just ignore any stars or anything they don't like
>ensharts will keep timelooping about tempiss.

When will cover realize ensharts are just like chinkbugs and gtfo?

>>40337557
Average 18k people watching stars that sounds like a success to me

Reminder Cover end goal is to let the Stars touch the top girls in the company for exposure “leeching”
They will not stop until those girls bend the knees

>>40337926
Did Kaela actually? I only remember Zeta mentioning Holostars and Kobo who said she wanted to collab with everyone including fleshstreamers.

>>40338227
...are you dumb?

>>40338288
I remember all three saying it, like it was a disclaimer they had to read out. It was weird.

>>40338288
Most I remember from Kaela is getting some art from the homos on her birthday. At least I think it was her.

>>40338288
Everyone in ID3 did, no exception, they even said the exact same thing.

>>40338173
This is after Magni and Regis debuts.

>>40338289
What are you talking about, you can clearly see the amount of subs they got

>>40338227
Please tell me this isn't unironic

>>40338277
>watching

>>40338289
anon he's making a joke about the 200k subs reddit post

>>40335276
All the subtitling among other undisclosed things.

>>40338430
Oh so I'm the idiot... my bad

>no tweets from Omega
is he finally dead
if he is it's the only good news to come out of this whole ordeal

>>40338214
well the subreddit is still locked so it isn't hard to find

I miss them...

numbers

For those who missed earlier, here is the
> THIRTY (30) DAYS TRUE AVERAGE, PER BRANCH
chart (now correctly labeled and the correct chart too instead of the follow up)

Here are some comments
1) HoloJP is still living in their very own universe and their median is close to their ALL TIME HIGH, and nearing 13k again. That's just absurd
2) HoloEN signaled a timid reaction after hitting their all time low in November 19th, but that seems to have been short lived because they're back again under 6k
3) NijiJP, with their December company wide events BLASTED back up in over 4.5k.
Let's see if they can keep a good incline or if they'll return to their mean like on summer
4) VSPO is down from their all time high and on a holding pattern under the 3k line
5) NijiEN, like HoloJP, signaled a small reaction from their end of November slump but is back on a dowward path towards 2.5k
6) HoloID is back on an incline path but down to half their highest point mid August
7) StarsEN broke away from their downward spiral but their median is still below 2k

All in all: HoloJP and NijiJP are on a steep incline, VSPO is stagnated and the EN branches are attempting a recovery from a low point

>>40338462
You'll get a new manga and loredrop starring him on the actual debut, don't worry.

>>40338509
Why is Polka there?

>>40338462
he merged with t-chan

The only thing that’ll save HoloEN and potentially Hololive itself is if they end up finding their own Raito. A situation that would end up getting actual SJWs and media to cover the controversy.

>>40338499
It seems to be the r/vyt sub

>>40338462
The real omega is working in the shadows. The real omega is the EN producer.

>>40338513
Apparently they are giving way more benefits than HoloEN. Would be foolish to not join desu, weaker brand but more support, seem fair to me

>>40338499
I scrolled through over 1000 posts and didn't find it

>>40338462
>Kiara says Omega is dead
>few days later Tempus2 happens
That lying Orange whore! Unless this is like some final "Fuck you" to the people who wanted EN3 I guess.

>>40338462
Didn't Kiara basically say that he was no more?

>>40338462
where did all the good youtubers went? when will we have our own MRE vtuber?

>>40338430
Show it.

>>40337976
nobody watches EN, why would they matter

>>40338544
because polka is an EN?

>>40338572
at least indies have a way to join idolen and not vshojo or some small scam agency

>>40338509
Remember when /hlgg/ still watched JP?

>>40337320
So Vesper's premiere beat out all but one Stars stream?

Why do this thread like to timeloop about the council lore shit when holox, id3, tempiss1,2 all have minimal lore shit nowadays? Are you guys actually blind or just larping?

>>40338525
No fucking way the stars did that free dive to last place.

>>40338131
Basically agree it's the novelty factor that bloated the first 4 Tempus members. Subgrowth doesn't necessarily mean views though, certainly didn't help iluna. That being said it'd be better to have the subs than not have them. I wouldn't be surprised if the 1-2 punch of Uproar into this dissuades them from releasing any more Stars.

>>40338525
wow, they're roughly at their all time high now? Interesting that they're doing so well when e.g. subgrowth has basically ground to a halt.

>>40338462
Let it go Anon. We have Achan creaming herself over the new homo already. He was always nothing more than a boogeyman.

never forget

>>40338509
those were good times...

>>40337616
Good!

>>40338525
>5) NijiEN, like HoloJP, signaled a small reaction from their end of November slump but is back on a dowward path towards 2.5k
HoloEN*

>>40338544
It's from when Global was claiming JPs as honorary ENs or something because they did 1 or 2 english streams.

>>40338754
Yeah, this

They better stay away from Noel, I want those tits

>>40338560
yeah found it, forgot that existed

>>40338662
>Subgrowth doesn't necessarily mean views though
That is true. Lacking sub growth at this stage tho, coupled with the circumstances of their debut
>open rebelion in opposition vs. "magging hype" and "brotuber hope"
will likely mean a much more subdued debut buff, if any

>>40338173
They are far ahead of where Uproar was pre-debut (about 11-13k)

>>40338662
>certainly didn't help iluna.
It did help them having big debut streams. They just collabsed after them.

>>40338928
My fucking pet hamster is ahead of uproar and it died ten years ago

>>40338907
I'm planning to watch their debuts and nothing else just to make the drop from debut numbers to obscurity steeper

Well on the bright side, the state of EN has given me time to get back into games and LNs again, so that's cool. Probably just gonna stick to that going forward.

>>40338525
so we're essentially in the HoloJP golden age

interesting that they keep going from strength to strength while the vtubing boom is supposedly over

Despite Bae having followed all of the homos, only one of them followed her back. This is the only instance of any of the four following any of the EN girls.
Aside from that, all of them followed Ollie and Kobo. Three of them followed Zeta.

>>40338584
I mean he hasn't tweeted anything for these guys, so he maybe dead but EN management was always the one behind him.

>>40338928
to say they're EN i wouldn't say far ahead since if that's what uproar had they've only got a 5-7k difference. especially when tempus 1 had >>40337975

>holofags still spewing hate for Holostars

Let's talk about the REAL reason of Hololive EN's death:
>why didn't Ina stream yesterday?
>why didn't Ame stream yesterday?
>why didn't Gura stream yesterday?
>why didn't IRyS stream yesterday?
>why didn't Bae stream yesterday?
>why didn't Fauna stream yesterday?
>why didn't Mumei stream yesterday?

Stop excusing your whores and directing your hate towards Holostars.

>>40339008
thanks for keeping updated, twitterspy

>>40338972
>collabsed
We should use this word for what happened to the homo-hag girls' numbers.

>>40338525
that little nijien bump is fucking sad
that's debuts + the anniversary of their most popular wave

>>40339028
if only we got en3 instead of tempus1 and en4 instead of tempus2

>>40337970
Why are people like that?
That's the same thing as saying: You can't find a girlfriend? Have you tried sucking a cock? Your fault for not trying every option available.

>>40339028
>Break x6
>Working on really cool stuff soon soon sooon fr fr

>>40338525
Now, also for those who missed, here is HoloEN true average and median of peaks, plus one more thing
>the same, but with Gura and Ina removed

Gura and Ina add a 1.5k on the average but, other than that, their presence or absence do nothing to change the general trends.
And the trends were
>massive incline in 2022 from May to mid July, to their highest point since the algo change in Dec 2020
>massive recline from mid July to now
Said recline happened in the "no Gura/Ina" chart too with the same severity, meaning it's not just their absence that caused it.

>>40339093
why haven't you sucked the cock anon, what are you, an incel

>>40339026
Right, but Tempus gen 2 still has like 36 hours to add more subs to their "pre-debut" total. Should wind up doubling Uproar at least.

>>40337975
Tempus also had goodwill going into it, or at least the expectation/hope that they would follow StarsJP who are mostly tolerable.

>>40337320
Literally nobody cares about premieres unless it's a song or a promotional video.

>>40338721
no wonder this board is shitty
probably the SEAmeido too

>>40339093
What's wrong with sucking dick?

>>40339028
Two of them are on break. The rest didn't want to even be mentioned within earshot of the homos announcement.

>>40339082
Why the fuck would Cover want to hire more girls who won't stream? That makes zero sense to do so.

>>40339028
Kys homobegging, nijisis.

>>40339205
hire girls who stream then

What do you think EN management is thinking right now?

>>40339205
Because even with a stream per week a girl makes more money than the entire Homoshit branch combined?

>>40338525
Hololive's explosion in early July correlates with Maribako.

>>40339028
I do not appreciate you calling them whores, but the post itself isn't wrong. Tempus didn't force Ame to tell people to fuck off for no good reason and then do the duet that caused nothing but drama and earned Altare nothing, not even hatewatchers since it took so long before people found out about the fite my 1v1 gungeon moment. Tempus didn't cause Kronii to change tracks multiple times and then put her own(retarded) fans on blast for being retarded in public during a collab with one of them(they deserved it and I laughed my ass off, but still). I'm not happy that cover is pushing starsEN so hard, but the girls are the ones who are both causing all the drama and not delivering on even regular streams.

>>40339244
How long they should wait to promote Stars auditions again for the next debut in 6 months?

What are the chances of Ina reaching 1.5m subs during the return stream?

>>40339028
that's why they need to hire more people, so when a few go on break there's still something happening

>>40339205
half of holojp doesn't stream yet they pack prime time every day, that's why

>>40339244
Thinking?

>>40339244
They capable of thinking?!

>>40339265
Did Marine save Hololive?

>>40339244
>shit, tempus didn't pan out and we've already spent months preparing to debut 4 new members, where did we go wrong????

>>40339244
"we need to get stars EN3 before holofes, they obviously want more, look at all those reddit comments! holoEN? what's that"

>>40339244
ACCELERATE HOMOS!

>>40339007
Thanks to the JP leading on top who know what they are doing and what get numbers. Gura is talented and get big numbers but she just not fit to be the leader, the one that every other EN follow

>>40339265
>>40339311
Pekora's come back with nonstop buffstreams probably helped as well.

>>40339159
clearly, not even theïr "fans"

I wonder if this is the reason why Magni’s back on his rm account and Vesper doesn’t give a shit about streaming anymore

>>40339288
If half of HoloEN streamed every day we'd have 5 streams instead of 1 or 2 or 0.

I know nothing about Idolmaster but several threads back wasn't there some discussion about how they introduced male idols and faced backlash (and they ended up replacing the spots of some female idols in the game) but ended up succeeding in the long run? Does anybody with more experience with the franchise know what happened? Did they find a new female audience? Did the male audience take a liking to them? What traits did the male characters have to make them liked in the end?

>>40339244
"it will definitely be the second luxiem"

>>40339403
>the guys with the ugliest models just give up when the new guys show up

What even is the correlation between “normie” and “male collab”?

>>40337209
Why do you think they haven't debuted EN3? They are just getting retards with terrible opsec
>>40339244
>sir, these clip watchers that don't watch streams, send superchats, join memberships or buy merch are seething on 4chan and reddit because we didn't debut new toys for them...
>oh no... anyways

>>40339403
I mean their box is already fucking pitiful and extremely incestuous, where even the smallest overlap will kill their numbers.
So far this new gen seems even more of a flop than Tempiss, so they'll just dilute their box even thinner.

Soon, it will be 24 hours of homoflops only

>>40339494
>Ctrl+F normie
>1 result

im a chumbud and i actually like the new tempus bois :)

I still blame Mori for telling Council to take it easy, granted they didn't have to listen, but still. Don't even put that idea in their head. The fuck was wrong with her?

>>40339244
>”O-ONE OF THEM WILL BE THE NEXT VOX I’M SURE OF IT, THE RETURN WILL BE BETTER THAN WHATEVER HOLOEN COULD BRING JUST KEEP RELEASING NEW MEMBERS!”
or something like that

>>40339426
SideM never got as popular as even the worst performing Im@s but it was a case of attracting a female audience rather than the more traditional male im@s fans. There is very very little crossover between SideM and the rest of Im@s

>love jpegs and vtuber girls
>but irl i like to hang out with boys instead of girls
What do you call this behavior

>>40339600
go back

>>40339544
The only person who listened to her was Kronii.

>>40339600
heterosexuality

My wish is for cover to realize that unlike jp butas, en audience are just as bad as the chinkbugs and will finally pull out from en too. Just need their own taiwan moment.

.t chink

I have come to realize, if Rushia were targeting the managers and the higher ups in her menhera suicide switch i would be fully on board with her.

I will only forgive Tempiss if
>They manage to get someone entertaining and going viral
>The said talent manage to get at least one regular 7k floor talent after 2 months
>actually healthy subs growth and no flatlining for entire year
>pumping up cover and ori with at least 1-2M views after one week
>No leech from twitch or holobitches
at the end of the day they probably will be a bunch of fag streamers from twitch but one can only hope

>>40339679
I'm having a deja vu

>>40339671
you don't know Japanese

Can you imagine the feeling of powerlessness from being forced to debut at a terrible time and being the cause of a shitstorm because everybody wanted something else over you?

>>40339679
Nah got burned once, not anymore fuckem

>>40339679
>7k floor
my fucking sides

>>40339750
Why would it matter because the only reason to join would be to try and fuck holoJPs

>>40339679
>7k floor
sounds familiar

>>40339750
If they are half as slimey and clout chasing as Tempiss I doubt they give a single fuck as long as they can leech and kill the Holo brand.
I don't even consider HomoENs humans.

>>40339679
In another words you don't want to forgive them. Looks impossible, doable but will probably fail 99.99%

The biggest turning point for those that tried giving them a chance was when Kronii made that post along with the main Holo account reposting their disclaimer for her to RT at the same time

>>40339244
>thinking
They're still in drunken stupor sicne the new year's party.

I know I said this last month but hey, at least things can't get grimmer than this for holoEN

>>40339837
And I will cling to that 0.01%

>>40339896
Just you wait

>>40339679
>Asking a 7k floor
>From a Stars chuuba
lol
lmao even

Where's all the astroturfingniggers?

>>40339896
Shut it, don't do that

>>40339103
>>40339183
>break
stfu retards
you can't be that stupid

>>40339220
literally
unironically
unequivocally

rope yourself, holocuck

>>40339750
I doubt they care if they fucking applied to Stars which is known to be the black sheep branch.

>>40339896
Just wait for the Ina and Gura graduation announcements. Holomyth gonna be a trio~

>>40339679
This is already hard feat even for HoloEN3, even harder for shitter like Tempiss

>>40339896
you're literally gonna summon a graduation if you keep talking like this anon

>>40338643
hlgg were always clipwatching faggots who never wanted to do their reps, there's a reason they were chased out of /hlg/

>>40339896
Didn't these kind of posts used to come with an Ayame pic as well

Has the stars ever managed to incline a single holo?

I just found out today that shion, haachama, hoshikawa and aqua were all friends before hololive

>>40339125
Now, here is that same chart, except for HoloJP and with an extra line with the First Army removed.
Like for HoloEN and Gura+Ina, removing the First army might change the absolute values but not the trends, which remain the same even in their absence.
Right now the 30 days average for the branch is nearing 10k even with the first army removed, which is monstrous!

>>40339956
>>break
>stfu retards
>you can't be that stupid
No arguments then? Okay.

>>40339028
people are shitting on them because it's been SIXTEEN FUCKING MONTHS since a new EN generation debuted
and EN in general is still only 10 people strong, with more than half of them on a break, there's no one to pick up the slack and maintain the "BOX" aspect that Hololive thrives on.

>>40339997
I'm beginning to think "homofags" are just nijifags.

>>40339244
> EN management
> thinking

>>40339679
I will only forgive Tempiss if
>they all graduate and they don't come back (applies to anything Cover related)
>they die
I would be fine with any of those

>>40339984
Yeah but since Ayame has been streaming more than Gura it probably doesn't make sense to use that pic anymore.

>>40340028
Slowchama.... just wait until you find out what connects Toko and Korone

>>40339591
Bullfucking shit in its prime it was more popular than Shiny Colors was at its prime, but Bamco completely bungled it, released a shit game, CLOSED the shit game, then released another shit game and now the main game that people STILL preferred to play got shut down today.

>>40339840
The whole Kronii fiasco was pretty much the turning point for most people on /vt/ before that Bae had a pretty successful collab with Vesper that most people were positive about.

>>40339028
Don't you have a subrebbit to moderate, T-chan?

>>40339896

>>40339930
/here/ didn't create a meme for them to use so there was no shot this time around.

>>40339997
No, though I understand the sentiment that a branch of the company failing isn't a positive thing.

You guys aren't ok with males but you're ok with their mamas who are mostly male probably young of age talking to the members..?

>PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE WATCH HOMO-ACK!

>>40340095
>most people were positive about.
Homos are literally in lala land

>>40339984
It's not the 25th.

>>40340163
>I understand the sentiment that a branch of the company failing isn't a positive thing.
They created the equivalent of "Hololive Maldives" as a new branch, trying to mobilize the resources from the entire company
>including a slot reservation of 4 hours affecting HoloJP
to try to make it succeed is even more damaging than letting it fail on its own

>>40340189
What kind of shit angle is this

what if this tempus 2.0 turn out to be really success
luxiem level of success, and their viewers will be full of chinks
and cover had to make gura learn chinese a couple of months later

>>40339930
You can't be that serious to believe this right?

.t someone who started the magging meme just for fun.

>>40340189
>mama
>male
That's papa, retard.

>>40340189
trying too hard

>>40340028
Wait, really? Source? I know haato and hoshikawa were friends but I had no idea all four were good together, and before hololive too??

>>40339370

>>40339896
You just activated graduation amongus

It honestly feels like a fucking joke. EN was supposed to recover. Ina come back, the offcollab arc, maybe even EN3 soon. Then, like some sort of cosmic fucking joke, not only do they debut more homos..but they're also called Tempus pfahhaa. Like they wanted to double down on "Tempus killing HoloEN".

>>40340189
Can someone translate this?

>>40339997
Very early on ID1 and Stars Gen 3 were closely connected and collaborated a lot together. I'd say that was mutually beneficial for them both.

the astrotourfing is unreal

>>40340028
Isn't Aqua like 8 years older than Shion?

>>40340035
>no argument
you can't argue with retards that actually think 2/3rds of the branch are on a break for a justified reason

>>40340189
Anon, you are misunderstanding nature of the complaint. The complaint for the great majority is not
>girls will interact with boys
but
>resources from the girl's branch are being spent on the boys while the very girls that generated them are being neglected and so is their branch
and
>there is an editorial push to force the boys into the girls audience whether or not they want it to the point it became a detriment to the girls themselves

>>40340244
DEJA VU
I'VE JUST BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE

>>40339244
>thinking
they are all masturbating into the night thinknig about homos

>>40340038
Newfag here who's only been around since 2021, were Myth streams more regular with just the 5 of them vs. EN with 10 now? The way people talk it seems like it.

>>40340193
Boomer vs Zoomer was fun.

Tempus was a mistake

>>40340253
Yes? Astroturfing is real.

>>40339028
It's actually baffling that people are still trying to shit on ORK right now.

>>40340244
what if i won powerball?

>>40339370
>>40340288

>>40340389
ogey faggot why are you responding to me

>>40340427
>>40340288
based

>>40339679
remember /hlg/'s hope for HoloEN?

HoloEN could have had the biggest comeback yet with
>IRyS 2.0
>Council outfits
>EN3
>CouncilRyS 3D
Back to back going into Holofes, but no. Gotta make everything about the Stars!

Kek no wonder other numbers threads including the chinks one laugh at the one here. You guys go schizo with the most inane shit.

>>40340427
Better to use this one where he looks like a villain.

>>40340244
Unless that one rrat of a gura-like guy being in tempiss is true, it won't happen.

>>40340427
F R E E D O M

>>40340389
Not a fan of the "pretending to not know what things are" zoomer bit

>>40340514
Cope. I literally hate unironic homosexuals now because of how you faggots act.

>>40340534
Even if it is true his fans aren't going to go from watching a video format to a live stream, and 95% of those fans are going to be filtered by weeb shit

>>40340189
These arguments are always fucking retarded.
Next you're gonna say how they also have some male staff or that they talked to the male cashier at the combini yesterday.
Clearly that isn't the problem.

Just wanted to remind everybody that Meloco got her best numbers since debut week doing a Japanese language stream during Japanese prime time to Japanese viewers.

Nice EN branch ya got there Nijikeks. It's not just her doing a Japanese zatsu since HoloEN members have done that too. But the fact that that was her biggest stream in weeks? Really concerning.

>>40340539
Bae wasn't pretending anon. She literally had no idea what a pager or a modem was.

>>40340573
yeah
at this point whoever pushes that as NEW GURA OMG LITERALLY NOW GUISE!!!! is either coping hard or a shill

let's see who's streaming tonight
hmm...
there is a Mori stream and...
oh, that's it, only Mori is streaming tonight

Fauna, Mumei, Bae are travelling back home, I guess?
Kiara is in Japan but doesn't stream in the morning to target NA audience for what reason exactly?
Ame is getting ready for her birthday 3D live?

Where is IRyS, Kronii, Gura, Ina?

>>40340417
you can excuse Bae, Fauna and Mumei, anon, and the point still stands

>>40340530
Was this picture was touched up in photoshop

>>40337320
>vesper
>no stream
>still beat mostly of starJP
Idk if i must laugh or cry

>>40340439
because it makes you seethe, cuck

>>40340616
Ike also would have had the biggest stream today with a JP zatsu if Mysta's stream hadn't turned into a Luxiem collab.

>>40339896
Wait until July :^)

>>40340639
>gura break
>ina break
>kronii offline today

>>40340616
she is JP, no? should have debuted on the main branch. then again idk how it works now with the VTA shit being a thing

>>40339896
that's what we said when the breaks were announced

>>40340690
I can call you a faggot every post and never experience emotion.
Seethe.

>>40340639
Mumei, on her way back.
Bae and IRyS is on a hotspring trip.
Fauna might be joining them, or on her way back.
Kronii is putting in the minimal effort since forever, and Ina is back on the 8th.

>>40340639
Moom is "vacationing" until she goes back home. Fauna is probably the same. Bae is taking a break for once, but she'll be back next week still streaming from Japan.

Kronii is around with a shit schedule as her norm, Ina is back on Sunday, Gura is sick, IRyS is being a lazy cunt and taking days off too.

>>40340639
Bae, Ina and Gura are on break.

>>40337557
your wish has been heard

>>40340754
cuck

>>40340335
Aqua is 8 years older than haachama and at least 6 years older than hoshikawa too

>>40337557
Who thought this was a good idea...

Does no one find it weird on how none of the en girls even brought the new dudes up at all. I excepted a tweet or even a stream mention by now yet they legit been ignoring the new dudes.

>>40340777
?

>>40340375
>were Myth streams more regular with just the 5 of them vs. EN with 10 now?
YES!

Here is a table showing just that, with a once sentence summary
>MYTH STREAMED MORE IN DECEMBER 2020 THAN THE WHOLE HOLOEN IN DECEMBER 2022

>>40337557
they don't have mag meme to save them this time
it will interesting see how they developed by their own

>>40340812
>see how they developed by their own
>by their own
I guess we will see about that

>>40340800
Nice branch you got there holoEN faggots

>>40340335
Aqua is that old? Wow

>>40340752
CAN'T GET WORSE THAN THIS
CAN'T GET WORSE THAN THIS
CAN'T GET WORSE THAN THIS

>>40340375
Yes, which is why there are so many fucking people whining about them continuously.
Also back then, Mori and Kiara... still hadn't had their worst yab moments yet (although orcschizo was rampaging at the time as well), and the branch overall had a feeling of unity, with many 1 on 1 and 2-3 group collabs, as well as all the minecraft stuff.

You know what, the lack of minecraft (or Rust, or asobi taizen, or hell any shared world game) is probably what's the biggest factor in the distance felt between the girls as of now.

>>40340794
Did Mori not shill them during her stream?

>>40340794
>WHY ISNT MORI TWEETING @ THEM
hearing that tempiss general crying about that was funny

>>40340794
The EN girls are basically dead anon. Mori and Kiara are the only streams happening today.

>>40339896
Anulo mufa

>>40340616
She also gained same number of subs as tempiss 2 in last few days

LOL how are you feeling right now JPchads?

Ngl, this board is a good case study on how easy it is to create narratives and lead and brainwash people into believing the most stupid shit kek.

without shitposting, what was management truly thinking?

>>40340800
Holy fuck...

>>40340800
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if Japan was open in 2020 they'd have streamed less

It’s kind of amazing how bad at opsec that HoloEN fans are. All this low hanging fruit just going to rot. Journalists and real SJWs (not ironic weebs who just feel superior to premative, conservative Japan) love stories about women getting fucked over in the workspace, whether it’s harassment, not earning as much as men or getting hired/promoted over by a man. And both NijiEN/HoloEN have so much of that going on right now. All that is happening while HoloEN fans are just sit with their tails between their legs, hoping the homos will just disappear. I can’t help but laugh at how pathetic that bunch is.

>>40340864
Grimchads truly living the live right now

>>40340929
r u new on the internet?

>>40340932
>holowhores are lazy, take their fans for granted and never stream
>homochads care about their fans and stream regularly
>let's bring in more hard-working fellas

>still no tweet about Fauna orisong 1M
sasuga holopro

>>40340485
Funny how all the comments about EOPs flocking to EN and stopping shitting up the JP chats ended up coming true in the end even if it took about a year to happen

>>40340741
She said that NijiJP auditions are closed and you can only get in through VTA, so I expect more JP to go the NijiEN route.

>>40340932
EN management wants their own vox, so they are gonna keep pumping out gens till they find him.

>>40340530
like this? idk looks weird

>>40340952
chatgpt-chama...

>>40340944
That's a big if. What makes you think that would be the case?

>>40340986
Please understand, they are laying low until everyone magically accepts tempiss2

>kills holoEN
Nothing personal kids

>>40340982
that would only make sense if they brought as much money as the girls

>>40340986
Sorry no can do, too busy shilling males right now.

>>40340864
>GRIM fags are all avatar fagging attention whores
Wow, who would have thought....shocking

>>40340932

>>40340952
They are blinded by their hard on for Japanese can do no wrong.

>>40340987
As a JPchad, I'm kinda glad about HoloEN's existence just for having that extra amount of gatekeeping involved.

The more barriers to entry there are in a hobby, the more dedicated and passionate are the fans who overcome it all to enjoy it.

>>40337970
2nd and 4th posts are the kind of trannies that management keeps listening to

>>40341050
rude

>>40340909
damn i'm impressed

>>40339997
>Guramefag

>>40340932
That HoloEN was doing well enough to delay EN3 and give HomoEN space to succeed, that western audiences would be more receptive to male vtubers and that male/female collabs wouldn't hurt the girls. They were wrong on all fronts.

>>40340616
the EN market is truly in a grim state

>>40337970
Holy bible, can anyone simplify it for me? Brain too smol.

>>40341020
based leader

>>40340952
anon people fundamentally consider themselves as "good people" so they don't want to adopt the methods of the literal devil in their lifestyles.

So why can't you ensharts just behave like majority of the jp weebs? They have homostars shoved down their throat and just ignore them.

>>40341020
sasuga

>>40341087
Do you actually believe that?

>>40339997
well...

>>40340995
I think the half smile is fittingly creepy.

>>40340616
Vtubing is dead in the west.
It died with westerners projecting their pedophilia onto Gura and virtue signaling.

>>40340812
>no mag meme
>fujobait tweets about licking pecks
amazing upgrade

>>40341114
just read the very last post at the bottom

>>40340952
Are you saying we should spin up a story about how the homos are oppressing women and hope actual SJWs bite and turn this into a massive drama? If you think that's going to have any traction you don't understand how the libtard mind actually works. They are, for example, more than happy to put race models out of jobs.

>>40340932
These latest 4 guys you can make the excuse they always planned to debut them but theres even more coming before Cover even sees how Tempus2 does. They've completely lost the plot.

>>40341144
Different cultures, nips are submissive office workers.

>>40341165
Did she actually incline? As far as i know she is the absolute runt and will probably forever be the runt of hololive.

>>40341017
2022 Myth is incompetent, to expect 2020 Myth not to be worse when trying to stream from Japan would be retarded. 2022 Myth could barely find time to stream together, or in bits and pieces when Ame and Kiara were recording, do you really have expected them to stream from Japan when they would also be busy recording shit for Cover? Hell, look at the situation Kiara was in where she paid $4k for a hotel and the internet was complete shit and wasn't prepared for it at all.

>>40341144
>and just ignore them
t. EOP

>>40339896
>can't get grimmer
Oh it will. Guaranteed. One or two of the girls will graduate then more homos in July. Homos will outnumber the girls before the end of 2023.

>>40340741
see >>40340992
niji main auditions closing and only routing their talents through VTA has caused most of their potential hires to study English and apply to the EN branch instead.

Guarantee you that these folks will do more collabs with their JP senpais than their own branch livers.

>>40339244
>haha the incels are seething, im sure twitter will watch the homos this time

>>40341177
Thanks anon, saved me from reading a homobeggar coping.

>>40341206
she went from a 2view to a 3view, which is technically an incline I suppose...

>>40340932
They're actually huge misogynists and treat the girls like second-class citizens.

>>40341228
>Homos will outnumber the girls before the end of 2023.
I hate that i can see a possibility of this happening.

>>40341124
Explains why HoloEN fags have let their branch go to shit. I’d call them cucks, but maybe betas is the more appropriate term.

>>40341220
I did say majority, only a small group will go schizo, and unicorns will just leave quietly.

>>40340932
see >>40340067

What
Mori collab with nijiJp

>>40341282
grim gang winning

>>40340800
Seriously, what the fuck happened to Myth outside of company projects? They haven’t hit 100 streams in a month in almost an entire year, and are not even CLOSE to hitting it. They’re barely even hitting 80 half the time. You can literally see that if you increased their streams by 1.5-1.8x that the number of streams isn’t THAT different post-council. They’ve literally just stopped streaming.

>>40340932
"I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me so hard."

>>40341277
Was that from the homos though?

>>40340952
How does that relate with opsec?

>>40339896
anon what have you done

>>40341212
The only people who would be in Japan in December 2020 for Myth would be Mori and Kiara because they live there. Actual 3D stuff would not start even being planned until spring 2021 for Myth.

>>40341309
Why the fuck is it always Gundou and never someone not scum of the earth

>>40339679
lol lmao

>>40341309
>gundo
birds of same feather

>>40339244

As you know, Bae can't stream the end portion of Persona 5.
I went to take a look at /rrat/, and a few anons there were discussing the idea of Bae doing a zatsudan stream where her "commentary" is her talking about the game she's playing - that game being P5 with no visuals and no audio. They even said Subaru did something similar for P4.
What do you think?

>>40337320
why has Vesper stopped streaming for almost 2 weeks?

>>40341334
yeah her group with Oga and... Aruran I think? (idk I don't keep up with the homos) inclined her a little bit.
She wasn't ALWAYS the runt btw, after her initial homo collabs, Moona was the runt - until Pekomoon happened.

>>40341340
Complete and total horsehit when Gen 5 (minus Nene for obvious reasons) and HoloX both got their 3Ds within 6 months

Ironmouse is doing more publicity for them than any Holo member....
thanks I guess

>>40341309
Why are Japanese cats so fucking fat. Do they feed them rice?

>>40339997
crab mentality

>>40341324
Most of their "enthusiasm" metrics (number of streams, hours streamed, CCV) take a deep dive in February 2022.
I don't know what happened in the backstage but something went down that they went from enthusiastic to phonin it in.

>>40341334
Nah it was ID3 bringing in more brownies

Anyone have the graphic for ENs numbers in December?

>Nijinigger completely disappear
>Homo defense forces coming out of no where
Really makes you think

>>40339750
1 vod of prime gura it's worth more than this relay debut.
last week of pekora is worth more than holostars will ever be, jp+en.
they are a footnote in hololive legacy.

>>40341083
Wouldn't be surprised if it was a manager on an alt account.

>>40341440
See >>40338525 or >>40337294

>>40341324
Other than Kiara and Mori, the rest got super fucking lazy.

Ensharts are now just like chinkbugs. When will you guys start the wheelbarrow?

I feel bad for the Tempus boys. All this anger is being directed at them since they are being used as a scapegoat for people's frustrations. The grim state of EN is all on the girls. Constant breaks, constant baffling decisons (like IRyS doing nothing with ORK), and constant unfullfilled promises (Gura's Queen cover will be here any day now). None of them can get a solid streaming schedule going for longer than a week or two without having to take anothet break. There have been no HoloEN girl streams in prime time going on 3 days now because NOBODY IS AVAILABLE!

Tempus works hard and puts out good content. If the girls were doing their fucking jobs than the Tempus 2 announcement wouldn't have caused this.

>>40341395
Would be bad for numbers but I would kneel anyways since it would be proof of her completing the game on-stream

>>40341446
just look at any social media of the new homos
they are called "new wave" almost everywhere, that's how you know who their fans are kek

>>40341446
It really does, unironically.

>>40341324
they seem to be being run into the ground with offscreen work with no regard for timezones fucking up their sleeping patterns and no backup in sight

>>40341503
Vesper isn't even a streamer anymore fuck off

>>40341503
>temp
stopped reading there.

>>40341434
I think thats when they were hoping to get introduced to EN3, instead got to know about tempus..... also they would have been given the info that there is no outfits,3d or anything till next year

>>40341395
Would be a nice way to do it. Could also finish it off-stream and then do a Zatsu just talking about the game overall. Just hope she gives closure to the fans.

>>40341503
please tab back into Astels stream, bro
you are currently not counted as viewer and he needs every homobeggar view he can get

>>40341356
birds of a feather

>>40341402
he said it was to be with family but the holidays are over for awhile now. Seems to be doing what he was doing before getting suspended being lazy.

hickock45 for tempus3

>>40341503
Easy solution: debut EN3 before HomostarsEN and then EN4 after Tempus.

>>40341419
6 months after Myth debut was spring 2021.

YOUR WISH HAS BEEN GRANTED

>>40341420
She hates the shota

>>40341519
>they are called "new wave" almost everywhere, that's how you know who their fans are kek
NO, THEY'RE NOT! HERE, I'LL PROVE IT WITH A SIMPLE SEARC-
(Ochame Kinou stops!)

>>40341420
Well one of them is presumably an orbiter of theirs

>>40341503
Stop pretending they joined Hololive with good intentions

>>40341607
I don't want him involved into that pile of misery

>>40340244
kek luxiem level of success is a 2k floor, anon

>>40341181
You get TERFs, hardcore feminists, journalists just looking to make trouble and make a name for themselves. You would be surprised how easy it would be to get a bite if you phrase it a certain way. God knows there’s a fetish about painting Japanese like primitive mysogynist. Just look at the plethora of the gaming articles about some of the racy games the nips have put out. Not like it matters, I’m kinda enjoying watching HoloEN squirm right now.

>>40341646
Mori has still never apologized for anything she's done.

I'm struggling to find a single thread on /VT/ that isn't demoralized as fuck atm. What's going on? 4 new fags shouldn't affect the broader Vtubing sphere this much.

>>40341503
Working so hard by not streaming

>>40341646
ack!

>>40341503
Tempus and StarsEN are doing what’s right for their end. What isn’t right is cover being stupid fucks and neglecting their 2nd biggest branch that competes with being the 2nd biggest vtubing branch in the world.

None of this shit would even matter at all if they were actually releasing EN3 and not swamping the girls with offline bullshit and recordings at 4AM.

>>40341667

>>40341423
The Japanese lock them in cages instead of roam around.

>>40341672
The buff guy, would explain why she is replying so much. He's a huge vshojojofag

>>40341503
100% accurate but nobody will admit it, lol

>>40341069
This is bullshit though, JP has bigger numbers and way more tourists, if anything they attract more casual fans then EN now since they are mainstream in their homeland. This only works if you're talking about non-JP viewers, or specifically non-English speakers.

>>40341607
BRO I JUST SAW GUN JESUS FLYING OVER MY HOUSE

>>40341563
Maybe that's when Gura had all her "projects" thwarted, and they realized that if the biggest one can't get anything, nothing is possible.

>>40341704
You means MANS isn't celebrating?