/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40289159
>noooo reeeeee we don't want them collabing with our girls
>cover gives Tempus more homo toys to collab with
>w-what do you mean more homos!?!?!??!
I mean now they have an excuse to collab less with the girls fucks sakes retards.

Tempus 1 became irrelevant fast

>>40289365
thats some monkey's paw curling shit right there

Coverjannies are so mad at Vesper for calling them on their shit that they rushed a new gen just so they could shitcan the first one.

people blame "mismanagement" or whatever, but they're desperate to have more streamers who actually stream and tempus have clearly showed to be more consistent content creators than the girls, so it's on the girls this time.

>>40289159
There was already lore that indicated that the first four weren't the only ones in the guild, there were more but to stay consistent with the gen. size of the Stars branch, they decided to put those two in hold until they got two more to finally release a full gen.

>>40289365
Except that the reality is that instead this means there are more men to Collab with the girls.

>>40289365
>>cover gives Tempus more homo toys to collab with
cute, you think that's what'll happen

>>40289159
ACCELERATE

>>40289159
more hype around EN3 due to long wait

>hired this quickly
what are the odds that these 4 are any good
are they just going to be your average shitty streamer/youtuber off the street

>>40289627
>they're desperate to have more streamers who actually stream
Talents like Ayame and Gura prove you wrong. They're very popular and stream very little compared to the usual behemoths like Koyo or Kaela.

>>40289882
aren't koyo and kaela making them way more money than ayame and gura though? i can only think of merch sales beating that but it's not like there's merch available all the time.

Myth was lucky to have 2.5 Japanese speakers out of 5 an ID gen that spoke pretty good English and an extra ID gen on the way. They could linger on getting a second gen out a year later. Tempus had 1 member who can speak JP which limits their ability to interact with the JP boys. They rushed out the second gen and will probably have another one in the summer to achieve parity with HoloEN. With any luck these ones can speak JP.

they had more good applicants than they could fit into tempus gen 1

>>40289365
>more males
>return of mixed collabs
>endless thread about Star EN 2 (again)

I'm sooo looking forward to this

>>40289159
Bandaid just like the promo said, they needed friends.

Had 6 guys picked for gen 1, decided to wait a while and get 2 more applicants to debut with the 2 left out of gen 1

>>40290218
>bitching about content you won't watch
>bitching about muh catalog

>>40290123
Are you actually retarded anon?

>Girls don't stream
>Cover makes no money
>Guys stream
>Cover makes money
simple as

>>40290290
Yeah it happened so quick I have a feeling this was planned even before Tempus debut'd

i love the boys but this makes no sense

>>40290505
Buddy, I like watching the stars and I can assure you, they make a lot less money on average than the girls even if they stream more

>>40289365
I mean I'm not dooming either I just won't watch them.

>>40289882
They didn't build that popularity by not streaming.

>>40289799
there isnt very much hype at all!!!!

>>40289159
The past 2 NijiEN waves have no male chuubas that panders to the males. Cover probably wants to corner that market

>>40289159
they probably found 6 good talent in Gen1, said fuck it, found 2 more, and then made a quick second gen
that or they hired them to fill out a raid party

>>40290414
Did you not read? I'm excited for the amount of shitposting this will occur. I'm hoping to see some 'funny' takes on the new gen.

>>40290607
>girls making no money from not streaming is better the guys who stream making not as much but sufficient money
ogey

>>40290699
no sarcasm? based, excuse me and carry on.

>>40290717
i know this is probably bait but
girls have merch which is INCREDIBLY overpriced, not to mention promos in things like that recent counterside game. thats not even counting how chuubas who go on long breaks usually get flooded with super chats upon their arrival back.

Yagoo really wants to drive his company off the cliff

Maybe they just had too many good candidates, and instead of letting them go to Nijisanji, they chose to release 2 gens at (virtually) once.

They learned their lesson with Myth, if you stretch your talents to thin for to long you get what we currently have. But you can quickly bring more talents in you can effectively spread the load to avoid long term burnout. Council should have come a few months after Myth, so they're looking to avoid that same mistake.

>>40290865
I would too if my golden goose gen turned to shit over time

>>40290865
based desu

>>40289159
Vesper got preemptively suspended for half a year so they had to delay the whole debut.

>>40290717
One "comeback" stream can earn as much as the guys do in a week. The events and projects the girls do has a lot more return on investment

>>40290290
>>40290516
It was already confirmed, the red hair shota guy was playing FF14 with Altare today

>>40290505
Girls have more members than average tempisser's CCV

The EN guys were pretty popular compared to their JP counterparts and I think Cover is just trying to capitalize on that and not overwork the Gen 1 guys. The EN guys actually have a strong work ethic vs the girls and it's showing.

If anything, I think EN girls Gen 3 is indefinitely delayed because of their failures so Cover pushed for the guys a bit faster than they intended. They probably had a Girls Gen 3 semi-formed, but are pushing for stricter contracts for them and because of that they're delayed.

>>40290860
You can't have all of your talents pull Ayame length breaks all at once ie. Ina, Gura, partially Ame and then have everyone but Bae be sick during that same time. You need a secondary revenue stream. And just because on their return they will get shower in all the money, that gap of months is loss revenue during that period which leads to not being able to make certain financial decision.

Also you already have the beginning of the merch pipleline with Tempus. You had 2 birthday merch packs In November and now you are getting Altare and Vesper's this and next month. Then in 6 months you will have Tempus Anniversary merch. These things take time but then get the ball rolling.

>>40291168
debuting new people has virtually no cost in the long run, and you can't rely on the income generated by someone who barely shows up.

>>40291226
I'm pretty sure each individual Tempus member, including the new ones has and will have a higher CCV than Gura did in the past 2 months.

So what's your point?

Dont be mad at the boys.
Be mad at the girls for being so lazy, this was the inevitable result.

>>40291328
HoloEN are the most popular vtubers on the planet with no competition. Hiring Tempus is just killing the brand by adding males. Literally not a single vtuber can compete with Gura.

>>40291557
Thank you for replying with nothing but your seething and no actual rebuttal to the business or financials.

all of holoen can't stream because they are getting pregnate from collabing with males so they needed a new male gen that can't get pregnate

>>40291557
>HoloEN are the most popular vtubers on the planet with no competition.
anon their biggest member regularly gets beaten by kanata

>>40291547
This. Don't let your bias blind you. Your oshi is being lazy.

>>40290531
Realistically, Yagoo loves Holostars and they seem to be his personal project. Even if they aren't anywhere near Hololive EN territory, they still did great for drawing attention to Stars in general, and they probably earned more money than expected to where he can justify putting money into them.
As for why Cover doesn't want to make a new proper Hololive EN Gen 3, who knows. Maybe it's them punishing that branch for half the talents not streaming for extended periods of time, or maybe they just view it as a side branch like ID at this point in time where the talents arent streaming enough to justify adding more talents. Or maybe they plan on surprise dropping on Valentine's Day, it's anyone's guess.

>>40291778
>maybe they just view it as a side branch like ID at this point
EN will always be viewed as a side branch. People forget because it had such a big boom at the start.

>>40290699
who will be the magni dezmo of tempus2?

>>40289365
>now they have an excuse to collab less with the girls fucks sakes retards
Except for Mori, Ollie, Kronii, Bae, Zeta, Ame etc.

>>40291547
Nah, I blame management. EN girls protest management by not streaming.

>>40289159
>there has to be SOME reason.
The boys are making money and views and saving the EN market as a whole for cover, of course they're doubling down. The fact there is no active auditions for girls and only one up for EN boys should have been a clue.

>>40289159
>there has to be SOME reason.
Best bet they had more applications that passed the bar and the delay was getting more designs.

>>40292534
>They protest management by not streaming
Hope they enjoy flipping burgers when they get fired

>>40292534
Management doesn't seem that bad if they're willing to let the girls take month long breaks.

>>40291455
Are you retarded

>>40292642
Management encourages it, which is stupid.

>>40292773
Gura hasn't streamed you idiot. That means her CCV has been 0.

>>40292640
These are women anon, not short men from poor families

>>40292534
Its the easiest job in the world.
No excuses.

>>40292321
We'll just have to wait and see.

>>40293082
You're right, they will at least be some reasonably expensive escort. I'm sure Kiara (who ain't getting fired) could teach the girls a few things on the way out.

>>40291455
My point is that Gura makes money by doing nothing than Axel does for having constant cock sucking ASMRs or whatever kind of content those homos do.

>>40289159
Serious talk? I kinda agree, it's weird they're debuting another StarsEN group so soon after Tempus when we haven't had a new HoloEN gen in almost 1.5 year.

>>40289365
Watch as 2 weeks into after they launch they'll drop the collab ban early and first thing Kronii, Mori and Ollie do is collab with all of them for weeks straight before the new ENs even acknowledge holostars JP.

Tempus 2 will be worse because their models and designs are technically better but based on genshit impact for the fujobucks.

Mag and Vesper had completely retarded looking models and turned out the best, while Altare does worse than dogman nowadays despite being the soft-spoken pretty boy.

>>40293397
Oh so now memberships count. Nice goalpost.

>>40293493
Altare is unironically a genshin character with a genshin voice. Tempus have been genshit for a while now

>>40289159
ACCELERATED
to the trash
>not debut EN3 first
>suddenly debut HomoEN2
Its like cover wants people to hate homo more

>>40289365
Saying that like they aren't going to spam group collabs every week again and the possibilities of the girls getting groomed increase again

>>40293548
Oh no, I've been trolled on /vt/...

>>40289605

>>40289159
picture pinning flayon's tiny body against the wall, that bulge in his skin-tight suit getting slowly swollen as you press your larger body against his tiny frame, and growl in his ear "this shit was too fast." before he misunderstands and tries to cover the wet spot gradually forming on the tip of his tiny lump in his spandex. you completely miss his embarrassment and growl "not even shitposting just genuinely baffled as to why theyre so fast." you step away and let him slump against the floor, he spends the rest of the night trying to understand why he was so fast

no homo of course

Well. At least there's the moment to look for when Cover realizes that no, it wasn't the designs that kept their numbers low.

>>40289159
>there has to be SOME reason.
HoloEN was just a smokescreen to allow Cover to enter the Chinese market through the backdoor. The success of Myth was unexpected, unplanned, and undesirable and that's why management perpetually sabotaged HoloEN. They tried to destroy them from the beginning.

Chinese fujoshi were always the plan and the goal. I'm never watching Hololive again in any capacity, or any Japanese company (Niji etc.) They sold us out and they will do it again.

>okay but can we actually talk about
No.
This is /vt/
There will be no talking
only autistic screeching

>>40289365
I've seen this same shitty "argument" posted in other threads, definitely you. Nobody would have a damn problem with your shitty male vtubers if they stuck to themselves in the first place and stayed in their own lane doing their own thing, but that wasn't the case at all. The EN girls ended up interacting with these fags more in a month than what the JP girls did to their counterpart in years. I remember the cope before tempiss debuted that they totally aren't gonna start collabing with the girls right out the gate and it would be a rare occasion to see any interaction at all, only for the complete opposite to happen. It's the normalfag crowd like you that kept homobegging in the comments section of every hololive related social media is what lead to this.

>>40289159
>there has to be SOME reason

Here's the reason, this guy is their troyan horse to the spanish speaking marketing

...I think. I hope we don't get dabbed with another Scarle situation

>>40293468
The sluts were the problem all along

>>40294304
ask the girls to stop initiating contact with them then you retard
>b-but they can just turn down the offer
turning down invitations from your seniors to make you feel more welcome ar your new workspace is one of the dumbest things you can possibly do.

finally, Niji's wave system has been proven superior that holo copied it

>>40294813
>seniors
this isn't nippon buddy

>>40294535
>Debut an ESL Spic on their male branch
>HoloES gets announced before HoloEN3
Imagine

Its bad timing. Not just /here/ - Reddit and Twitter are losing their shit about it as well.

Cover will need to address the situation at some point. Either that, or its intentional - Cover is letting EN branch sink or swim at this point.

The answer is simple you retards - Yagoo likes Stars and wants as many of them as he can get away with. Tempus actually being successful just gave him an excuse to greenlight more of the shit he personally likes.

>>40289365
They will collab with the wigger or Kobo the moment the ban is lifted (early) and then who knows, maybe another girl who was previously thought to not collab with males like Kronii will also bite the dust.

>>40289159
honest opinion. they realized the boys and girls dynamic is not that great inside hololive. adding more boys will bring more opportunities for them.

>>40295052
Based Yagoo doing whatever the fuck he wants with his money

>>40294304
Girls and boys are allowed to be friends you fucking raging incel

>>40294890
>everyone in EN constantly using nippon terms like kouhai and senpai
>suddenly it's weird to carry out typical nippon etiquette by not rejecting coworker invitations

>>40291778
Yagoo is a smart business man, he probably already realise that western women are not worth all this effort and resources and their recent behaviours just proves him right, he also knows the streaming landscape and brotubers might have more reach and appeal (at least thats what someone in his position could see)

>>40291721
merch is the real money maker and last we heard dino gura crushed all previous sales records. the runner up is sponsorships, and companies only care about subs when it comes to sponsorship as it puts more eyes on their product. ccv is a spook metric

>>40289159
Oh, i was going to apply, oh well next year maybe.

>>40289159
>wait what the fuck tempus flopped?
>it can't be. RELEASE TEMPUS 2
>BEGIN TOTAL NIJIFICATION
There's your reason. Now there are going to be two flopping male gens. Two! And this second one has even gayer designs than the first so the brotubers cope is dead already. All I can do is laugh.

>>40289159
Screenshot this.
They're going to debut EN 3 a week after Tempus 2 debuts.

>>40289627
Of fucking course the males were more consistent anon, they were the newest gen. Did you never notice how often Gura, yes, the lazy ghost who hates working (according to you), how often fucking Gura used to stream when she was new? Or was that before your time on /vt/?

>>40296633
And kill their first weeks possible momentum? sure

>>40289159
>StarsJP second gen was faster
B-but muh tempus 2 was too fast.

>>40296633
Zero chance. If (and thats an extremely huge if) EN3 is still coming, you won't see them until after HoloFest. My guess is end of March / Early April.

>>40296550
tempus is the most successful gen of yagoo's top favorite project, the fuck are you on about?

>>40297036
Now compare them to any of the girls. Literally any of them, Sana included.

>>40296671
kiara debuted at the same time as gura and i see her streaming just as often, if not more, than before. sana stopped streaming after a month. time has got shit to do with this.

>>40297182
>Now compare them to any of the girls.
why? they're holostars, not hololive. the metric is not hololive, why would it be? the fact is that tempus is the most successful holostars gen by far and considering they still pump out DOA jp stars gens it makes perfect sense that they'd want to debut a new EN one.

>>40297449
>they're holostars, not hololive
>please disregard all the mixed collabs as they go against my narrative
>no please ignore the entire holopro thing too I beg you

>>40296706
>He doesn't remember Uproar and ID3

>>40297614
what narrative? you haven't contradicted a single thing i've said. and jp has done mixed collabs too.

>>40298002
Clearly I must have missed JP having at least one mixed homo collab every week at some point, man that must have been one nasty coma I had

>>40298218
what does that have to do with what you said originally of tempus being a flop? are you ok?

because the EN girls have proven that women stop giving a shit once they're successful

>>40298303
>3/4 don't even have 200k subs after this long
>they've been borderline 3views for a long time too
>and now their viewership is going to be diluted even harder
But then again what do I have to gain from trying to argue with a cherrypicker.

>>40298449
so what? like I said, if cover is still willing to debut more dead on arrival JP stars gens like uproar (because it's likely they still earn them money), why the fuck would they not want to debut a new EN one considering it's by far their most successful one in quite literally every way? it's the most obvious business decision in the world. you can shitpost and pretend to be retarded all you want about how actually they're a flop but from a business standpoint they were a success.

>>40297904
no one remembers uproar, those fucks flopped comically hard

>>40291259
>pushing for stricter contracts
No more than two covid positives per month.
Maximum 4 cat deaths per year.
Up to 6 tummy horts before we pay for you to see a gastric specialist.

>>40289159
It could be good or bad. It might give the homo's some more group identity separating from the girls. BUT the new guys could just spam group collabs with other girls because they are lazy

>>40294206
Wow, I've been catching up and you fit this weird theory into every post I've read so far. Good effort!

holo en needed to give something new but lord knowns there are no god options for female talent. For as bad as homos are they will at least do their job well and fujos are clearly the biggest western market.

>>40289799
But that's exactly the problem. The main issue with Council back in the day was how they debuted after Myth had amassed around 8 million subs, with every member reaching 1 million faster than anyone else in Hololive at the time and Gura reaching 3 in less than a year, and with the retarded lore teasers they did for a whole month before their reveal it launched EN2's hype to the stratosphere to the point that only an actual mythical creature wouldn't be disappointing, and even if nowadays at least 3 members of Council are way more dedicated to their jobs than most of Myth they were still underwhelming after their debuts and during their first couple of months. EN3 will definitely take more than a year and a half to debut, and is coming after HoloEN has shown itself to be fragile with how many members are on breaks at all times, without any idea for exciting events outside of those handled by JP members and are just not motivated at all for the most part. Putting that much hype and responsibility on the backs of the new girls will result on a Council 2 situation were none of them will meet anyone's expectations outside of Cover somehow hiring people who are not only ultra skilled in multiple things but also great streamers who can integrate those skills on their streams, but let's be real here and accept that this will never happen.

They tried copying NijiEN's double wave model but failed monumentally.

>when the pilot character isn't actually a mecha fan

>>40299430
Maybe after seeing how much Tempiss2 is likely to underperform in comparison to Tempiss1 (just like Council did in comparison to Myth) they're finally going to get the idea into their heads.
Or maybe Yagoo will stop any pretenses and completely shift the focus to more 2view male gens now that he has money. Who knows.

>>40299430
Second starsJP gen debuted even sooner than tempus 2. This just looks like standard homo pace.

>>40292534
Protest fucking what?

>>40289627
>>40290505
Pure cope when at least 2 Tempus members already talked about how management told them they can take as many breaks they need to not burn out.

>>40291384
>debuting new people has virtually no cost in the long run
Then why not debut a new HoloLIVE EN gen?

>>40290970
>so they're looking to avoid that same mistake
But they're making an even bigger mistake with HoloEN right now by taking 17 months and counting to debut a new gen.

>>40292534
I'm calling bullshit on that.
They don't stream because they are fuckin lazy.

>>40300441
>Then why not debut a new HoloLIVE EN gen?
who knows. my best bet is they already had candidates selected since tempus 1 got in, thus making the selection of the top 4 a very quick process.

>>40300640
It's obvious they are, stop replying to copeposts

>>40300706
It's stupidly obvious they were hired a long time ago, all their channels were created back in October. The issue is why the hell aren't Cover doing anything for HoloEN? They got 8 guys during the open auditions period, how the can't they get 5 girls? Or are they just not interested in expanding that branch?

>>40289159
Its the norm for stars.
Stars JP 1 June 2019 ~ Oct 2019
Stars JP 2 Dec 2019
Stars JP 3 Apr ~ May 2020
Stars JP 4 Apr 2022
So expect Tempus Wave 3 shortly after Holofes in May ~ June and then Wave 4 in 2025 May ~ June.

>>40301004
>October
sorry, i meant around the time tempus got selected too (july-august). maybe they got more good candidates than they expected and kept them close.

>>40289365
>he thought kronii and mori won't collab with the new shiny cocks
Cute anon

>>40301215
Oof. When Wave 3 additions to tempiss debuts, Niji's Gamer Wave will also come out. That's another L if that happens as people would probably go for the more novel product doesn't matter if their nijiniggers.

>>40299617
>what do you mean bro? I've seen Eva, Gurren Lagann AND Code Geass!

>>40289159
>there has to be SOME reason
If I didn't know better I'd say it's almost like Tempus is actually good.
But that can't possibly be true because they attract the same audience as MY favorite Vtubers.
People like ME with MY superior taste wouldn't like them so they must be trash!
I mean they don't have as high numbers as established and already popular Vtubers so they must not be making any money at all. And we all know only really popular things are good
It's almost like a different genre but who would watch anything that isn't yuri or loli.
So no there is no way that there could be people that are actually enjoying Tempus.
It remains a mystery why a corporation would sink money into something nobody is enjoying.

>>40299617
What, did he say anything about mecha already?

>>40301243
But that's exactly the point I'm agreeing with. Since their channels existed for 3 months already it means they were hired even before them. The first 4 guy's channels were created back in June and we know that they were hired at least back in May considering how some of them graduated/announced their hiatus on that month. This was definitely a back to back thing and it only makes it worse when they managed to get 8 guys but apparently 0 girls.

>>40299708
>Tempus 2 members' designs are actually good
I won't be surprised if they're a big hit with the sisters. Might steal a couple of the female NijiEN audience

>>40289159
>this shit was too fast.

>>40306166
Disingenuous faggots, saw people actually saying they actually hoped EN3 wouldn't come shortly after so as not to steal tempus2's "thunder"
Also.
>drop an announcment for more homo's
>lock down the subreddit immediately
>pin a comment asking people to PLEASE not talk about EN3
>most updooted comment is still someone expressing disbelief that they are coming before EN3

What a fucking joke that place is for discussion, this place may be awful in it's own ways but the mods there are on another level. It is not even the first time they have locked everything down to protect the homos.

>>40307006
/vt/ might be a mental asylum but that place is a literal glory hole for people to fellate the blue dorito.

>>40291557
And when Gura collabs with the males?

>>40289159
Because Hololive just want to be like Niji...snd throwing gen like a factory chain production... Less quality but more quantity !

>>40307857
If she ignored them completely when the first ever en stars debuted and other girls were falling over themselves to welcome them and do "unity" collabs then what makes you think anything will change now?
The homos have 8 people to collaborate with now and an established audience, if anything there will be less shilling by the even the girls who did collab with tempus.

>>40289159
Yes we know there some sort of issue with their previous contract but their guideline change. The girl probably still lock in contract with previous company.

>>40307664
Blue doritos is the reason vt even exist, why you even here anyway.

>>40309192
Oh yeah, because I need to pray for our lord and savior Yagoo in front of my blue dorito symbol every day thanking him that /vt/ exists.

>>40294890
The fuck ? Respecting your seniors is one of the most basic thing to do if you are new, it's not just the Japanese. Westerners don't do this ?

>>40307006
>>40307664
Pretty much, as shit as 4chan may be and no matter how much worse it keeps getting, the fact that people are free to voice negative opinions in here means it will always be better than lebbit.
And that's despite how rampant schizos run on /vt/ in particular. Holy fuck what's wrong with this place.

>>40307857
She avoided the first wave like crazy and took a coincidentally well-timed health-related break just in time for the second. Are you really going to shame yourself as much as you did the first time?

>>40300441
>Shity management pampers the talent instead of busting their ass
>losing money
oh no, it seems that your statement did nothing to contradict the fact that the girls arent streaming and thus not bringing in money!

>>40310671
Nice meme, does that chuuba stream?

>>40310850
24/7, entirely in your head.

>>40289159
definitely too fast.
StarsEN gen 1 debuted at the end of July.

>>40310769
Because streaming is the only source of money they have, right?

>>40289159
Unironically? The boys most likely actually communicated with management unlike the girls.
Like we know in JP part of the reason there was a gap between 3 and Uproar is that the boys requested it after the graduations so they could focus on the brand as it was.

>>40290672
well theyre doing it wrong, with how tempus gen 1 turned out

>>40290193
>>40290290
This makes the most sense to me.

>>40289159
>there has to be SOME reason.
StarsEN3 and HoloEN3 will debut this year
15 Holos
12 StarsEN

They want HoloPro EN to 30 members. Theyll be very close to it by the end of the year.

>>40289159
The first gen flopped hard with ugly designs so this time they made them more fujobait. They want that luxiem audience to save them from 3view but it will end more like illuna.

EN3 will be announced at Holofes just like ID3 (and the actual failed stars branch of Uproar) were.
Tempus2 is just an expansion pack to Tempus which would have always been the plan (it was most likely they had the 6 designs they were gonna debut, but decided to split it up when they had 8 talent to choose from and decided to spread it over two waves). Going forward, they likely won't even act like they are seperate gens.
Nothing will actually change. The girls who stream with Tempus will be the same girls who have no issue with streaming with Stars in the first place like Mori, Kroni, Ollie, and Kobo. The girls who have never streamed with them are at most going to do a song cover with them, if even that. And /vt/ will continue to whine about little thing in the universe and will never be happy.

>>40315106
You're not unhinged enough to post on this board. Begone.

>>40295512
If you weren't an incel you would know that when a man wants to be "friends" with a woman, he wants to fuck her

>>40298816
Typically a business does not burn more money into a project that did not match expectations, they cut their losses.
Unless of course they are relying on bailouts in which case they will continue throwing money into a furnace. That is what Holostars is and why we despite it.

>>40317073
That is just being friendly.

>>40297182
>Now compare them to any of the girls. Literally any of them, Sana included.
Learn to read retard. That anon literally said they're the most successful STARS gen ever. STARS. Stop comparing them to the girls, Cover fucking obviously isn't.

>>40317200
>Typically a business does not burn more money into a project that did not match expectations
Yeah, almost like Tempus WAS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL STARS GENERATION AND WAS A SUCCESS BY HOLOSTARS STANDARDS.

You're just letting your homo hatred blind you. Stars EN ain't anywhere near the level of the girls but they do damn good numbers comparable to popular mid level niche streamers and make a decent amount in supers and memberships. The one thing I'll give you is that it's very possible that the new boys will stretch their numbers too thin.

>>40318655
>Stop comparing them to the girls, Cover fucking obviously isn't.
This, Yagoo saw EN stars numbers and jizzed his pants white. Then he sees the EN girls numbers and thinks "eh not as good as out JP girls"

>>40318655
>Stop comparing them to the girls
They had the collab ban lifted early but only for the EN and ID girls, they created a HoloPro twitter account that featured all of them on the same banner, they had a sanctioned watchalong on HoloLIVE EN's channel. I know it's hard to understand the signs but StarsEN is for all intents and purposes supposed to be a companion to HoloEN and not a completely different branch. The reason EN3 didn't debut last year was because they wanted to focus on Tempus for 2022, and it's so fucking obvious only beggars or complete retards like you refuse to see this. If they were supposed to be treated differently then we would see something like how ID3 and Uproar debuted close together and have an EN3 on the same year because, theoretically, they target a completely different audience so one wouldn't completely cannibalize the audience from the other, but that didn't happen and I'm willing to read what's your explanation for that. And before you say I have my mind blinded by cock I will just say that I don't hate them and don't abhor their existence, I just completely disagree with Cover's decision to turn HoloEN into Nijisanji-lite and possibly wait a year and a half to debut more girls.

>>40318655
>Stop comparing them to the girls, Cover fucking obviously isn't.
THEN WHERE IS EN3 FAGGOT?
I will compare them to girls, because it's clear they took EN3 spot.

>>40319333
>It's clear they took EN3 spot.
How? That's a new baseless rrat, dumbass. How the fuck do you know that EN3 isn't going to be announced way earlier than you thought? I'd rather wait for cover to choose Females that actually stream, and not the kind of lazy fucks that we have now

>>40319504
Way earlier than few months ago?

>>40319333
>because it's clear they took EN3 spot
they didn't EN3 was going to be release earlier, but gura left. now they are saving EN3 announcement after guras graduation post fes

>>40319333
Why do you want more shiny toys to play with? Are you not happy with your current oshi? Go to reddit and whine about it anon, we don't give a fuck

>>40319504
It's been a year since the announced open auditions. Unless Cover is insanely incompetent, which we know they actually are, there's negative way they couldn't get 5 girls who want to stream. Auditions are being sent since fucking January but for some reason there's no news about it and now with Tempus 2: the Tempusning there's no way we'll see a new gen sooner than a couple of months, and that's being optimistic because it's likely we won't hear anything until the end of the year. If we shouldn't compare StarsEN with HoloEN then why didn't they debut both together? How did they managed to get 6 "good" male picks back in early 2022 but apparently there was not a single decent female candidate? Come on, explain me without resorting to the same arguments like "women are whores" or "they all lazy" or whatever is the more accepted, /vt/-seal of schizo explanation.

>>40319931
Why do you want more shiny toys to play with? Are you not happy with your current Stars oshi?

>>40319931
>shiny toys
Literally pleddit type comment . You are the one that should go back to your hugbox.

>>40289159
What I think happened
- Omega sees Vox and Luxiem rolling in Chinese Yuan from fujos
- Omega says “Hey!! Why aren’t WE doing that?”
- People try to tell him/her/them why but it doesn’t listen.
- Decides to go balls in on Male vtubers nobody asked for
- Signs not one, but TWO groups at the same time
- Debuts the first group (Tempus)
- Causes a literal fan war because HoloEN goes from no male collabs to male collabs every other fucking day
- Drama finally calms down months later
- Multiple EN girls missing/out
- Second Male wave still scheduled to debut, despite what happened before
- “Ehhh Omega, sir? Ma’am? Idk about this… Tempus fucked shit up last time, and people are expecting EN gen 3.”
- Omega: “Debut!!! THE BOYSSS”
- Today: Everyone is absolutely pissed
- Reddit in literal fucking lockdown
- Yagoo drinking vodka at his desk
- Omega somehow still has a job

I still don't understand why anyone would want to watch faggots.

>>40320047
>"It's a plebbit comment because I don't like it!"
Look, I fixed it for you, you absolute unit of a retard.

>>40320308
because they are faggots, chinese fujos or retards who think they're owning incels by watching gay shit

>>40320207
Otrher than the schizo-tier fanfic you're right that Luxiem 100% influenced their decisions and it's fucking obvious. Everyone forgets how Cover reminded people about StarsEN auditions not once, not twice, but three times in 2022 and the first one was in March, barely 3 months since the open auditions started, I believe on the same week with what ended up being Illuna's auditions call and around 2-3 weeks after Noctyx's debuts. Cover dedicated the entirety of 2022 running behind Anycolor because they didn't want to lose the male vtuber market like they did in JP, but by doing that they completely abandoned the branch that gave them the first ever win against their competitor and made them for the better part of 2020 and the entirety of 2021 THE biggest name in western vtubing, and honestly they didn't get much from it other than StarsEN only being more successful than their JP counterparts.

>>40320358
Stop talking like pledditor then

>>40320358
hmm let's investigate
reddit.com/r/absoluteunits

>>40315106
>EN3 will be announced at Holofes just like ID3 (and the actual failed stars branch of Uproar) were.
ID3 was never announced at HoloFes, only Uproar was. ID3 was announced a few days after.

>>40289159
They realized too late that entitled western women can't follow a schedule for shit, so they are desperate to find people that actually stream.
Or maybe they looked at NijiEN for inspiration, for some reason.
In any case 2023 will be the small corpo year.

>>40289159
Originally, there were already 6 of them, but they decided to debut 4 because they were looking for two more people.

>>40322485
>2023 will be the small corpo year.
any day now right?

>>40322614
Well the year barely began, but even them it definitely won't be HololiveEN's or, if you prefer, HoloProEN's year.

>>40322614
haha despite all the bitching and whining hololive will probably be more profitable this year than 2022

>>40289159
They probably had 6 good applicants for tempus gen 1 originally, and decided to split them into two groups, that's why they were pushing for sign ups so soon after gen 1 was revealed, they needed to find two more members fast to not leave the other two waiting

>>40325724
Hololive or HoloEN? The JP girls are doing fine even when some of their biggest names don't stream.

>>40301542
I'm bracing for "I only watch mecha with a focus on characters, like Geass and 86"

>>40327762
>"pilot"
>barely knows about mecha anime
>barely knows about mecha games
>plays Apex and never touched Titanfall before
>plays the other generic vtuber-core games and nothing where he can be a pilot
There, I predicted what kind of vtuber the shota will be.

>>40328236
> won't bother trying to learn about mecha
> will get dragged into valorant with kobo

>>40289159
They waited to do this when a lot of girls weren't streaming.
Because right now is the perfect time for a male takeover of Holopro.

>>40289159
To actually get the female demo.
The first one was all bro tubers with horid designs. These are now the fembois for the fujos. Cosplay as one of these next con if you want to band a fatty

>>40328434
Oh yeah
>don't know a thing about gunpla or model kits
Just to round.

>>40328628
LMAO it really is the perfect storm

>>40328628
The girls preemptively had an excuse not to stream until the worst of it died down.