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/vrt/ slander: Literally who?

As in they are like /who/ but you would be lucky to find them on the map. They cannot name things, just like /who/. They have advanced tech that is overpowered, Onobots (Robco Industries invention also known as Robobrains.), just like /who/ and they love to do paperwork. Just like /who/…

>>40188798
However, it is a certainty that /vrt/ is so out of date aside from the aforementioned Onobots, that they sail around on rafts for the cool factor. They have the largest merchant marine and navy of the world for this reason. Just a bunch of Age of Empires 1 era ship designs (pic related, strongest retro ships). Overall, they only exist out of pity, not even /yah/ is so pitiful. No wonder Beatani graduated, she couldn't bear being neighbours to Robco Industries.

/moon/ slander:
Your nation is so obsessed with sex that the Jannies themselves made two booba mountains and rivers to satisfy your lust. /moon/ pretends to be the leader of ID but even in their so-called Golden Circle, they are third fiddle to /ehe/ and /meat/. The whole ID empire fell apart, not because of others, but because /moon/ was too busy having sex in their elaborate places to stop them.

I was suppose to make the last thread but I literally passed out when the thread archived. I wasn't feeling well. Sorry about that. Passing back out now.

>>40189401
/moon/ is also so bad at trade deals that a psychopath like Bateman felt pity on them after scamming them, and redid the whole deal to save them. Once more proof of why their Empire fell apart. They are also so stupid as to think that you can load 10 tons of TNT, something that doesn’t exist, on a sailing ship from the 18th century and suicide bomb with it. Truly a pathetic and uncouth nation…

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>>40154406
wait onegai

>>40152060
it was the end of the year, I was working

>>40189401
>>40188798
are we giving out slander to various threads now? i suppose the jokes made about how /meat/ is barely a country anymore, after all the janny attacks, is unfortunately more accurate than i would like, especially once the timeline catches up to us, and even though we aren't quite the primitive savages we tell everyone else that we are, we are still pretty primitive compared to some places, and we can be pretty savage, not sure if that is a positive or a negative though since i like it. also, we get btfoed by /morig/, the custodians, and /v7/ too easily, we are basically the "former glory turned pile of rubble" on every point, and slowly getting worse. first /morig/ made our raids less viable, then /v7/ made our cult less viable, and soon enough we will be attacked by the demigod's themselves, making our own country less viable, our only way of surviving is diplomacy and utilizing the few resources we still have to regain a modicum of our former power, and while we are making strides in that goal with /morig/, at this point our culture is already focused on trading over raiding so our navy isn't what it used to be, and /v7/ is still a major threat to our ability to maintain our political and cultural connections via our cultists, and we still haven't fully implemented anything to deal with all the jannies. ok, is that a sufficient self-slander?

>>40190767
yes, we are kek ableit they are supposed to be directed at another nation as a joke.

I've only posted here twice or so but I lurked at the beginning and had a kind of idea in my head.
Got the motivation finally to bang it out into words. PPT's overview and origin.
https://rentry.org/2drvp

Would like to hear critique that anyone has before I submit it. Not that I'm trying to be a professional writer, I just did this for myself, but I'm worried I rambled too much and I at least want it to be entertaining.

>>40191039
Damn! You've been working on this for a while haven't you? I really like it, especially the religious tone that runs throughout the whole lore doc, it feels very Old Testament.
All in all I'd want to hear a little more about how the PPT are as a national identity and how their people operate on an individual level and I think the mythos near the end can drag on a little but I like it alot, it's really good work.

>>40191039
You got a lot of good stuff here, I like it! It does a good job of painting a picture of the tone for your nation. I suppose Kanatonium is what the heimin call their chuubanite? One thing to note is that we removed a bunch of inactive threads from the map to give people more freedom in placing their nations. Your old territory is still available if you want to continue leaning into the frozen tundra theme, or you can set yourself down somewhere more hospitable if you like. Welcome back!

Gen 4 is complete save for the fallen dragon

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>>40190767
Too close to home

Hey Founder, if you're around can we discuss things?

>>40191995
>>40192158
Thank you. I really do like the placement I have, the arctic tundra is really an interesting place. And loving the Dune books I can't help but think religious survivalists are the coolest shit.
I'm calling the one major deposit of chuubanite PPT has Kanatonium, it's inspired by uranium, and the large uranium deposits in the tundra of Russia and Canada. It's not used for anything nuclear yet of course, not for hundreds of years. However it differs slightly from real life uranium in that it's presence is rumored to have health benefits. (it doesn't, if you use it too much you're irradiating yourself and your life is shortened by years) Small amounts are used by the military in the north for heating and light purposes. Academics are still trying to figure out how the hell their ancestors healed themselves with it and researching it's practical use. It's not for sale but I don't mind if there are other deposits found in the world. As I write this I'm actually struck with the thought of turning some military men into mutants... which might be fun.

>>40197163
>mutant angel soldiers
Would they look like those many eyed angels from the Bible? That'd be neat.

>>40196244
'Sup.

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>>40188798
/2434/ slander, yeah well they are so inefficient they need a whole second nation to function, they wanna play war across the ocean with their mighty and perfect fleets but cannot even take care of some pirates off their coasts. They even sail across the whole world because they don't understand that the end fo a map is not the end fo the world. Do they even see their home nation when they are shooed all across the world because they cannot sit still at home for a moment??? maybe if they hated women less and accelerated all over the world and got some wifes they would care for their own nation a bit more.

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>>40191039
Welcome back. For more information on provinces check here: https://rentry.org/Provinces.. But since /ppt/ technically have lore already I don't see why the position needs to be changed, especially as it mostly encompasses relatively inhospitable land. The origin story is also quite cool.

Im still here. what do you wanna talk about?

>>40203880
Idk, meat bro just forgor

>>40204256
No matter. it was about meat-lore was it?

>>40190246
>>40190696
Ayy it's ok, real life comes first. Just work at your own pace and don't worry about that grumpy old man.

>>40204787
Yea

>>40190246
>>40190696
just wanted to make sure you still exist, i got time don't worry

>>40188148
https://rentry.org/Mint_Castella
Archive for /lig

What a thread to backread.
>>40160669
I'm really looking forward to what you come up with, meatbro. I believe things will get better for you.
>>40168784
It wasn't wrong OG... Your way of worldbuilding isn't wrong, nor is hagbro's, or ri2ner's... There's no wrong way to worldbuild as long as you're having fun, and your work is internally consistent with regards to the world. Which all your stuff was.
>>40151728
I've been doodling a piece about the LAB for the thing nasfaqronie started on, would be a look at it about 25 years after establishment. What kind of organization would the Hickerypuffs be that far ahead, you reckon? Also what kind of forgotten arctic things? /jp/ ruins? Swarms of shoggoths?
>>40191039
A land ruled by a monastic order! Cool idea. The Goddess Faithful's brethren, though the PPT rules much more directly. I really love this last paragraph of the Overview section, gets across the nation's spirit really nicely, with its dichotomies and values. "For beyond all modern psychological stresses is the old man in the cave." is a good line.
Also, I really like that you opted to make the natives a set of tribes instead of roving bands of schizos, that's so much more interesting. And then there's the whole cave adventure... Great setpiece! I'd love to see a movie about this, the trembling women and children advancing into the blackness, coming upon the divine vision, and then the golden city. Kino. If you know in what year the Heimin came out of the cave, we could add it to the timeline in the anchor.
>>40208001
This sounds like the comfiest nation ever, befitting their goddess. I love a verbal quirk being defined for a nation, easy to recognize them in stories this way.

As for the topic of the last thread... As usual, >>40154941 has phrased it much better than me before I could. I'd ask anyone relevant to this to do as advised.

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https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnuglore#remland
I wrote about Remland!

>>40191039
I don’t know much about Kanata but it looks great!

>>40210350
A caravan city? That's always fun. I wonder how large such cities can be before logistics become a problem. Local foraging can only go so far, larger cities import food from the countryside, so there would be a constant stream of traders bringing supplies to the moving city center. Or maybe being stuck in traffic would be the limitation, unless migrations were extremely well coordinated, which could be cool too. Steppe people and amerindian populations would probably be informative for this kind of stuff, maybe it worked with more people than I'd expect.

>>40210350
Ill read it after work vnugboi. As a huge fan of my kokowife I cant wait to see what you did

>>40211049
I imagine it as both a city of tents and city of caravans (it should become more prominent once gen 2 and/or neighbors are introduced) but the common theme of Remland’s going to be its mobility. Apart from a few buildings like shrines, seasonal dwellings, and market posts, pretty much the entire city will move around depending on the time of the year and local environment. I think this and the foggy wooded valleys will give it a dream-like atmosphere (sometimes literally due to the dreamworts) where towns of tents appear and disappear seemingly without warning! This should also help with the logistics since the population’s more dispersed and thus it’s easier to support through systematic foraging and herding, although nowadays it probably also relies on food import from the rest of /vnug/ and beyond as it has even less agriculture than /vnug/ in general. Still, /vnug/’s population’s pretty small so Remland’s population probably doesn’t exceed 10,000

>>40211183
I hope it won’t disappoint you!

>>40210350
Hello VNUGfriend, Remland sounds fun!!! Do they have colorful tents so people can see them if they missed the move?? I wonder if you can have a whole city on plattforms and gears that moves around a nation all the time?!?! That would sound super fun!!

>>40211894
Hello!
I think /vnug/’s going to be quite colorful in general since that seems to be a common theme for Scandinavian architecture as well! It might not help much in spotting them from a distance though since the trees, hills, and fog will likely limit how far you can see regardless of color
I think moving an entire city around on platforms and gears will be pretty difficult since a city’s very heavy and big, so people probably won’t bother with that unless they have a good reason to make the city mobile

>>40211183
At this rate OG gonna drop Risu to write for vnug instead kek

>>40210350
Wonderful stuff as always vnugget! How big would remland be tho? We talking a few hundred, up to a thousand people or a few thousand plus?

>>40212898
Probably just a few thousands since I put /vnug/’s population at around 200,000 and the biggest city (Symphoria) has a population of 12,000 but the population probably varies a lot between seasons given how Remland works

>>40211660
That's true. I can imagine the mindfuck of a traveling foreigner unfamiliar with local custom passing through Remland again, a week or two after a first visit, and finding the place completely deserted.
>>40211894
>>40212192
You could build a city on a desert carrier from Homeworld. Driving between the oasis, or trying to get to sources of chuubaniteSpice. That could be a fun thing to have in future vitubia...

>>40213820
I don't think you can have desert carriers yet?

>>40214449
It’s hard to make something that big mobile on land and there isn’t much of a reason to build a desert carrier in real life, but this is fantasy so it could be doable!

>>40214449
We probably still need at least of century of tech more before this kind of giant metal land vehicle is plausible, unless all the construction is extremely lightweight (like, made of wood and fabric). Like a strandbeest, maybe. https://youtu.be/LewVEF2B_pM
But then it would barely be able to support the weight of people. Or you could use magic to help it support its weight and move, it would still be good if it was very lightweight.
Also, hello hagbro, nice to see you! You didn't tell me how to write 11 or 34 with your number system! I want to try writing the national number of Moriji.

Good news and bad news, fellas. Good news is, i'll be taking a flight home soon. bad news, i'll be away for more than 2 days. So you idiots better behave! Now that im done with my studies I can kick back and spend more time here.

>>40213820
There's also no reason why this kind of lost tech couldn't exist scattered over nations from before the hyperwar. Ancient ruins that everybody stays away from kind of deal, that could potentially be reactivated in the future.
And since Hagu already played with the whole "we were created as a toy for rich nobles" with the original hags being artificial, it would fit right in as far as a esthetics go. Just another luxury of the nobles of a time before the hyperwar.

>>40214914
Alright, 2 days gotcha. Plenty of time to burn this place to the ground. Thanks for the heads up nisse!

>>40215081
Yeah, that would be within reach of pre-/vt/ tech. Maybe some "the power plant is dead, but we could develop the technology to kickstart/replace it eventually." kinda deal.

>>40215138
Dont. as for anyone with lore questions for me just reply to this post. I'll look for em in the archive when Im done having flight sickness

>>40214914
Enjoy the flight, founder. Don't forget to look at the clouds, they're pretty.

>>40215184
AND it would make for some kino landmarks!

>>40215484
I'mma do it!

The high seat is empty! It's over!

>>40215957
Where were you when vtwbg died?
I was at home eating stick of butter when founder post
"vtwbg is kill"
"Noo"

>>40214591
I don't think we have desert in Hagu??
>>40214794
Like this!!

>>40217167
No but the point’s that there should be a reason why Hagu’s people want to live in a mobile city to justify them going through all the troubles of getting something like a land carrier to work

>>40217306
Maybe instead of a desert crawler, it's a swamp waddler? There could be swamps in parts of Hagu, and swamps are very difficult to build foundations into.
>>40217167
Ah, thank you, I understand now!

>>40215081
I don't think we would have something like this but ancient ruins sound fun!! Do you want to come up with some together???
>>40215484
Bye Bye mister Secretary, i still find you scary but i still wish you the best!!!

>>40217686
Won’t it sink in the swamp too?

>>40217306
Well for the one that moves in a circle on like some geartrack i just thought it sounded cool!!! But for the desert one i've no idea because i didn't come up with that.
>>40217686
Are there swamps??

>>40218352
It’s pretty cool! I just don’t know if that’s enough to convince people to keep living there once the excitement’s faded

>>40217976
It won't sink if it's not too heavy, or if the swamp is shallow and the wheels are wide enough to not sink in mud.
>>40218352
>Are there swamps?
I don't know, up to you! There could be swamps in lots of places in Hagu, if you want. Swamps can form wherever you have shallow lakes with soil fertile enough for lots of vegetation to grow and accumulate biomass. Swamps are pretty fun, you can have peat bogs, or arctic swamps, or mangroves. Top tier biome desu.

>>40218648
I feel something like a moving city would have to be pretty heavy by its nature… and if it’s tall enough to reach the rock bottom of the swamp then won’t people just build stilt houses to live on top of the swamp instead?

>>40217930
Yea, sure why not? Also sorry for being kinda a dick the last couple of days, know that you didn't do anything wrong for that to happen.
I was also looking at your numbers since yesterday when you posted the finished part, and desu, I think a simplified version alongside a more complex, traditional version would go a long way. The numbers you have right now are pretty complex and require a lot of brush strokes, so I think a simpler version for those that are required to write them down fast would be nice. This isn't saying that you did anything wrong with them, just that we can expand on it further!

>>40218782
Yeah, moving village might be a better descriptor if you don't want it to sink through the mud.
But if you just build stilt houses, you won't be able to escape the giant carnivorous snail who is slowly advancing towards the village and is the reason it has to move constantly. (I just made up the snail).

>>40217930
secretary-san is quite friendly. he's just angry because of trolls

>>40218481
Maybe there's some reason for it moving? People there can't walk maybe and they need to move between cities for medical attention? Maybe religion?
>>40219178
So we can be friends again?!!!! I made the numbers so that it takes one more brush stroke for each number!!! I also made the letter for Ku and wanted to show you but i didn't know if you wanted it because i wasn't sure if we are friends or if i messed up too much...
>>40219674
I don't know, meat people all just seem scary...

Hag is a nomadic culture?

>>40220405
No?

>>40220150
>I made the numbers so that it takes one more brush stroke for each number!!!
O that's actually really interesting! I'm in the call with deadbeat and another anon and we've been racking our brains over them for a bit now, but I think I really like that idea that higher numbers take more strokes.
We've also been talking a bit about the moving cities and stuff now that meatbro is online, and I think we could just make them work.

Morning. /hag/bro, please give me a summary of your ideas.

>>40221045
Did i make a mistake? I thought i made sure it's correct... Also don't you like the Ku??? Ok, about the city!!

>>40221315
Colours represent stroke sequence?

>>40221315
Oh no, I just didn't make a connection, no mistakes. And I actually like Ku a lot, it flows nicely in an arc if you start writing it with the bottom left circle and go clockwise!

And as for the cities, >>40221155 is your guy. Don't worry, he's a real softie and would be happy to help. And if he misbehaves, I'll make sure to report the next /meat/ thread to teach him a lesson jk meatbro

I kinda wanna continue writing Borasmor’s story but I don’t know if it would be too self-indulgent since I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the thread itself

>>40220150
Religion might be the better idea! I can see it being a solution if the religion asks for constant movement between different places but has since developed enough infrastructure required that they have to move entire buildings instead of just traveling on foot or by carts

>>40221155
Uhm for magic you would have to ask mister Deadbeat, but i only wanted to mostly bless people that are nice and curse rarely when people are mean! But i already deleted the curse on you because i think it made some of you angry after all so please don't be angry anymore!!! I also thought maybe we can sell charms with magic rocks that do a little thing like make air smell nicer or keep insects away.
For politics i wanted Hagu to be ruled by one person that is called the Abe and who has loots of advisors around him for everything so he can always ask for help in making decisions and then when he stops being the Abe then the advisors all would come together and try to find a new Abe with their specialties and then he gets put in place if he wants to. The advisors all also got a special method to chose a new one after some time!!!!
For education i wanted to have an Elementary School that everyone goes to and can get a basic education for and then a Orientation School where they learn special stuff and can maybe find something they really like and learn more about that like science or religion or chose to become workers instead!!!
For food stuff i wanted to have a lot to share around with others but i think mister PG doesn't like that at all... And i'm not sure about mining anymore but only men would do that so it's not a lot.
I also think for warriors that maybe i should add people with guns because everyone has them already and i want to keep having lots of hag mercenaries and people wanting to hire them so they can find husbands but i also don't want to overdo it and make us a war nation!!!!
I don't really know about ships and i'm waiting for mister Money on that because i'm not sure how that works and what ships exists.
For history i thought that hags could be from some old pleasure place made with artificial hags to fulfill hag fantasies and that's why they grow into hags quicker and have mostly girls!!! And then a revolt happens by the newborn children and that makes Hagu not want those bad times of lust anymore and instead want love and families and monogamy!!!
I also thought about making marriage help places for hags around the world to find husbands so they are connected to Hagu and also to be friends with other nations!!
I also want lots of bookshops where we can buy books from writhaven!!
And i also want big and cool and strong cougars that can also be ridden by people!!!!
And maybe we can also have ice skates so that in winter people can run on ice on our really big sea near the mountains!!!
And maybe we can have fireworks!!!
And also some really cool ruins of some stuff from /jp/!

>>40221597
Did you figure out the secret of Ku!!!!!!???
>>40222620
Is it bad if you do something because you like it? I don't know about religion stuff, i just thought it sounded cool and interesting when i read your lore!!!

>>40223373
I didn't until you pointed it out just now and it made me tear up...

>>40223695
I'm sorry!!! I didn't mean to make you cry...

>>40223373
No but /vnug/ the country here is supposed to represent /vnug/ the thread somewhat so I don’t know if it’s a good idea if I keep writing stories that don’t have much to do with the thread itself
Thank you! I think religion’s a common and strong motivator for people to do things they won’t otherwise do, so having that make your people live in a moving city works if they don’t see a better alternative. In Remland’s case I’ve made things like dreamwort and chuubanite something that can’t be gathered and produced in large quantity without moving between groves and meadows so the people will have to be somewhat mobile to do that. Remland not having arable land also means the land can’t support a lot of population and thus people have to migrate to feed themselves through foraging, hunting, and herding. The monsters living in the woods might also have something to do with that

>>40223785
Nah it's ok, it was tears from the happy memories.Thank you.

>>40223785
Oh also, Meatbro is having a bit of a situation right now, so it might be a while before he responds to you. Just know he's really looking forward to working with you and changing the impression you have of /meat/.

>>40223025
>But i already deleted the curse on you because i think it made some of you angry after all so please don't be angry anymore!!!
We did not, friend. We were just having a serious discussion on how would such a nationwide curse work. Forgive me if our discussion was seen as hatred.
>Elementary School that everyone goes to and can get a basic education for and then a Orientation School where they learn special stuff and can maybe find something they really like and learn more about that like science or religion or chose to become workers instead!!!
I see. So the youth will be given specialised education to fit in certain sectors of society.
>For food stuff i wanted to have a lot to share around with others but i think mister PG doesn't like that at all
Forgive PG for he is not able to communicate properly. I assure you he was not disliking your idea.
>lots of mercenaries
>not a war nation
That would make you a bellicose nation who seeks glory in battle. Not to attain land but to attain wealth, fame, and family. Understood.
>hags could be from some old pleasure place made with artificial hags to fulfill hag fantasies and that's why they grow into hags quicker and have mostly girls
I understood this part. You mentioned this the other day. I also theorised that you and uoh share history of being modified pleasure beings. Especially when both uoh and hag are neighbours. Nice reference to Monster Girl Encyclopedia where the children are exclusively female.
>international husband finding services
Would tourism be a good idea?

>>40223025
Do you have any other ideas related to the cougars? Do they live in mountains, or forests? What color is their fur?

>>40223845
But aren't people of your nation the people of your thread? Doesn't writing stories means showing how they are happy and sad and have fun?
I don't understand much about religion but i think if it makes people happy that's good!!! I don't really have any big reasons like you for this, so i'm not sure how much sense it makes.
>>40223976
Ok, i'm glad it made you happy and i'm glad we are friends again!!!!!!! I was really sad when i made you angry because i'm stupid...

>>40224245
Yes, the people of /vnug/ in this world are supposed to reflect people from the /vnug/ thread but the characters I put in my stories are all fictional characters unrelated to the thread

>>40224245
I don’t think Cunt was angry at you, he may have been worried that he would make you upset or something like that

>>40224245
>made you angry because i'm stupid...
So here's the deal. I was never angry with you, not for a moment. The reason I wanted to distance myself from you was in part because of the fuckup I caused a few days prior that almost resulted in you distancing yourself from most of the writers on here(as a vast majority is in that discord) and in part because I am not sure if that kind of fuckup wouldn't happen again in the future. I know what kind of person I am, and the anons in the thread can confirm that I am called Cunt for a reason. I didn't want to hurt you like that again in the future, and I figured just backing off was the best way for you to continue enjoying your time here worry free.

>>40224073
Ok!! I'm not in a hurry, so he can take time!!
>>40224123
>We did not, friend. We were just having a serious discussion on how would such a nationwide curse work. Forgive me if our discussion was seen as hatred.
So i shouldn't have deleted it?
>I see. So the youth will be given specialised education to fit in certain sectors of society.
Uhm, i'm not sure if that's right but i just want children to be able to learn important things for life and also potentially have support to do things that they like instead of being forced into things.
>That would make you a bellicose nation who seeks glory in battle. Not to attain land but to attain wealth, fame, and family. Understood.
I don't know what that is but we would want to prove ourselves so people like Hagu and want to marry hags.
>Nice reference to Monster Girl Encyclopedia where the children are exclusively female.
I don't think i have read such a book and it sounds complicated from the title.
>Would tourism be a good idea?
I don't know??
>>40224198
I want fresh warrior hags to raise them alongside them when they begin training and grow together and be partners that help each other!! I think they live more towards the cold parts and also near mountains and they can scale walls?? But they could also climb trees? I want them to be a mix with lions and gray for Botan!!!

>>40224394
But would they not be happy to see people of the nation?
>>40224717
I'm sorry for that!!! I got scared because i have some bad memories about things like that and i didn't understand the joke... But you were always so nice to me and i don't want to not do stuff with you!!! Please don't leave me alone... I don't care what others think!!!

>>40225364
Don't worry kiddo, I won't. I'll just also rely on others to point it out if I ever go too far with my shitposting.

>>40205726
>>40207376
while you wait for me to finish my work you can read the gay sacred texts of the dads.
https://rentry.org/dadfics

>>40225874
Oh you come out of the gate swinging huh? kek, this is amazing

>>40225874
wait... wtf?? is that one story about the divegrass twain? as in the pcg manager?

>>40191039
>A monastic order
Fucking kino. I love seeing new types of governments and nations in the project, feels fresh.
The academy sounds intriguing to me too. What do they study there?
I like the inclusion of the three headed man metaphor. Adds a bit of depth to the nation.
>Origin of the Heimins
How much of this is thread references and how much have come up with yourself? Im curious to hear, but either way its very nice. I do wonder though, what happened to the Lord of heimin who marched south? Any plans for that?
Seeing as the cave is mentioned to have the city carved of chuubanite, which I assume is the same as Kanatonium, would this then imply that the cave still exists beneath the Academy?
Its a nitpick but you call St.Taso both a her and a he multiple times, i dont know if its intentional or a typo but i felt like i should point it out.

Also, remember to reply to the archive anchor and tell the archiver where to put your rentry, so it doenst get forgotten!
>>40188148
Archive >>40191039 under /ppt/

>>40210350
Caravan city sounds kino.We have a severe lack of nomadic elements int eh project so im happy to see some!
>>40214914
take care founder! Hugs!

>>40223025
>ships
What about ships? I wouldnt say im a ship expert but i can try to help.
Also, would Hagu be interested in partaking in the Vitubia Mahjong Championships, held every (in-universe) year at the Isle of Hags, (Believe it or not, I named the island before you came along, nashags have been a joke in nasfaqg for a long time) a center of mahjong playing in the Serene Republic? I dont have any stories with this planned, but I think it would be a nice aspect of lore and history to have.
Other threads also welcome, but since Mahjong is generally thought to be a hag interest, I thought to ask hagu first.

>>40226333 (me)
>>40188148
Ah fuck wait nevermind dont archive >>40191039 yet, 3AM brain is not good and I didnt fully comprehend his post in my sleepy state, and if I now understood it right, he didnt want to archive it yet.

Sorry PPTanon,

>>40226333
A lot of /vnug/’s meant to be nomadic since farming isn’t very viable in most parts of the region! A good chunk of the population relies on herding reindeer and hunting wild animals and plants for food, just that Remland happens to be both a major settlement and also a nomadic people

>>40225992
>>40226110
there would be more stories but laziness and bea's graduation caused our writer dad not to do any more >>37054114

Dark clouds over /meat/ today

>>40226653
you are now my best buddy

>>40226333
Uhm, you said you would help with ships for Hagu?? But i don't really know what that means, do we buy ships from you? Or do you move us around?
I don't really know about Mahjong myself but i know you told me about it before and that's why i also put it into my lore!!! I'm sure we would love to be invited!!! But i can't say how good we are supposed to be at it...

Just swinging by from /vnug/ to show you guys this because there might be something we can do with it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rQ6u-w2pDE

>>40227672
Both selling ships that would be built by nasfaqg companies, and having cargo and passenger shipping companies to carry Hagu's business around are a possibility. I'd imagine which option is used depends on the needs of the hag or hag faction in question. If you need to just go from place A to place B, then hiring a ship may be cheaper and faster, but if you want to have a navy, then building your own ships and/or commissioning others to build ships for you would probably be the smartest ideas.

>>40224964
>I want fresh warrior hags to raise them alongside them when they begin training and grow together and be partners that help each other!! I think they live more towards the cold parts and also near mountains and they can scale walls?? But they could also climb trees? I want them to be a mix with lions and gray for Botan!!!
Aight, that should work nicely. I think they'd probably have a social structure more similar to lions than cougars, since more social animals tend to be easier to tame. If they're big enough to be ridden, they might have trouble climbing smaller trees, but younger cougars should be able to. Cougars are actually very similar to lions, there's a reason they're called mountain lions sometimes. Do you think they should have a mane? Since it's Botan-inspired and she's kinda dommy, maybe the packs have a matriarchal hierarchy?

>>40228024
Then i would like to hire you for bringing hags around the world and then buy some ships for us?? What kind of ships do you sell?? Do you sell fishing ships??

>>40227672
Oh also
Mahjong is first and foremost played for fun! Although I imagine there would be generous monetary prices handed out by the Mahjong Association people. The tournament would likely usually involve some celebrations too, which could be a place for fireworks other stuff that goes well with building romantic bonds
I do think there should be some hags who have won big prices in the tournaments, if you like the idea.

>>40228358
Sounds good to me.
The nation builds anything from rowboats to big ships with big guns, so yes, fishing vessels are very much possible.

>>40228255
I don't want them to climb smaller trees if it hurts them!!! But i think giving them manes would look cool!! And yeah we can have a cougar queen isntead of a lion king!!!

>>40226744
Whats going on? whys akira on the front page?

>>40228409
Yes i do!!!! And the celebrations means lots of socializing and getting to know each other!!!
>>40228518
I don't know what kind of ships we all would need and if we have the money for big ships??

>>40229122
Given that its an entire nation, someone probably would have the money for it. Multiple even. This is assuming you want to have Hagu be of average wealth, or a nation that does trade.
Fishing ships are usually on the smaller side, as are some trading ships (there are large ones too). Ships of the Line and equivalents are the really big ones with 100+ guns and those are almost exclusively useful for military purposes, and are also much more expensive to build and maintain. Frigates are smaller ships that can also be used for military purposes and if you dont want hagu to be a massive naval nation, those would likely be better options for your trade protection and hag mercenary purposes.
Im not really an expert on ships, the deadbeat and some others know much more.

>>40228997
It's more like they wouldn't be able to climb small trees without hurting the trees! You need to be pretty big to be able to carry humans continuously. Big lions are around 400 pounds, while the lighter horses that humans can ride are around 800 pounds. So these will be big cougars, if they're of similar size. Visually, I guess they might look a bit like picrelated, maybe a bit greyer instead of white? And much larger. Since they're big and hunt in groups, they'll probably hunt large prey in their natural environment...

>>40229400
I think we would trade and have average wealth? Fishing ships sound good because they help feed people, how many should i have? What trading ships should we buy?? I don't think i want big military ships so i rather have the smaller ones!!
>>40229612
They look cute!!! So i can have them?? How should i write this?

>>40230035
>They look cute!!! So i can have them?? How should i write this?
Yeah, of course! Lots of ways to go about it. Most commonly, people just write a short text that does stuff like describe the creature physically, say where it lives, what it eats, how it survives, how it relates to humans if relevant. But it's pretty free-form.
You can look at a few of those spec bio pieces for inspiration for formatting, if you want. You can edit any rentry to copy all the formatting and replace it with your stuff.
vnug animals
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-vnugbio
whales
https://rentry.org/vt-cetology
nasfaqg fish
https://rentry.org/dghwn
ag bear
https://rentry.org/m97xy
moriji fauna
https://rentry.org/morig-fauna
There are more in the Creatures and Plants section of the archive.

>>40230035
I dont really have any idea on how many fishing vessels you should have, and how many of those are foreign build and how many are domestic, you would probably have a mix of both. I would leave teh amount of civilian vessels like fishing boats vague. The number of them you have can be conveyed effectively by you saying how big your fishing industry is. I would leave the navy size as vague too.
Whaling is also an option you could do, those ships tend to be slightly larger i think, but still not huge.

From my quick review into ships, these types pop to my head first, in rough order of "size"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schooner
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloop-of-war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galeas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigantine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brig
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Indiaman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigate

Im not an expert in ships, but these articles have lots of cool images you can look at that help grasp the size and look of these types of ships. There are also usually mentions about their use. this is basically how i learnt anything about ships
im going to sleep, hope others can help you more!

>>40230407
Is this ok? https://rentry.org/7crmo

>>40231040
Ok!! I will try to read up!! I'm sorry i might have annoyed you because i don't know anything about this...

>>40214914
>i'll be away for more than 2 days. So you idiots better behave
Nobody tell him

>>40231691
you havent annoyed me at all, i just wish i would have been able to be more helpful.

>>40231562
Yeah, that looks nice! Good job! A big portion of hag is actually not subpolar, since it's larger and more north in latitude than /vnug/. Also, this is a nice template to add more animals later.

>>40231785
Ok!! I will read as promised!!
>>40232671
I just kept what VNUGfriend wrote because i thought we would be the same, what should i write instead?

>>40230035
One thing to consider about fishing is that there is no modern refrigeration. So fish back then usually ships from sea to market the same day. Might be fun to look into transporting fish.

>>40232889
Oh, maybe something like this? :
[Hagu](https://rentry.org/tnsyr)) is home to a myriad of wildlife, many of which are endemic to the region. As expected from a country with a wide variety of climates, spanning from subpolar regions to the subtropics, Hagu has a high measure of biodiversity.

>>40233208
But we have ice, can we not cool them?
>>40234212
OK, TY!!! I changed it!!

>>40234419
If you have ice then that changes a lot. Still you have to be careful when transporting fish to warmer regions.

>>40234539
Ok!! We'll try too be careful so that people don't get bad fish!!

>>40234419
>OK, TY!!! I changed it!!
You're welcome! It's a nice addition to the bestiary of Vitubia. Would you like to archive that entry?

>>40188148
Hagu Lore: https://rentry.org/7crmo
>>40236324
TY!!! I forgot i have to do that...

>>40236458
We've all been there!

>>40236554
Mister deadbeat, how do you best name ships?

>>40238321
Ah! That's important. Individuals can name ships what they want, but sometimes there are trends, especially for ships that belong to the government. America names some of them after politicians or generals, England uses adjectives (like Indomitable), Infinity uses Kronie puns, Moriji uses really chuuni, edgy phrases. You should try to figure out what feeling your ships should get across to other people. Badass? Reliable? Fast? Motherly? Patriotic?
Oh, and you should have a prefix. Like HMS Redoubtable, USS Ford, MMS Black Wind, MCS Overtime. HMS is "Her Majesty's Ship", USS is "United States Ship", MMS is "My Mori's Ship", MCS is "Miyatsuko-Chronobanks Ship". So you'll want some kinda code like that to put before your ship name, so people know it's a Hagu ship right away. Something like AHS (A Hag's Ship) kek (just an example, you can probably find something better).
Those are just common setups, you can also come up with your own whole system, obviously.

>>40235483
You can ask deadbeat about how to make preserved fish stock for long trips at sea.

>>40238873
This is what i got so far: https://rentry.org/5rp44
I named them R.A.S because they are Rightfully Abe'S and i named the frigates after things from Marine but i don't really know what to do with the rest.

>>40238985
>RAS
Kek, that's great, good choice. Very distinct from the other naval codes.
>South Haguwomanu
That made me laugh pretty hard, I like the romajination approach to the naming of the classes.
>Senusou Unisonu Housou Marine
All the furigate names are good kek. Marine is a natural source of inspiration. As for the others... Personally, I have a lot of difficulty naming stuff, so I tend to only naming things that need a name for a story, this way I can use its role in the story to get an idea for the name. If you have difficulty coming up with more names it would be okay to leave them unnamed. Or maybe naming them after things related to other hags?
Also, what's Kaiguno? Is that like "Mister" for Hagu?
>>40238896
Stockfish keeps a lot better than fish stock, funnily enough.

>>40239527
TY!!! I looked up why some ships have letters before and when i saw "Her Majesty's Ship" i thought RAS makes sense because everything belongs to the Abe. I tried to name the shiptypes how it would make sense for Hagu!!! I don't know, i would love to name them all but with only Marine as water themed hag, i'm having a ahrd time on how to do the rest. I think i need other themes. Kaiguno means navy!!! That's why it's the Kaiguno No Abe, it's the Navy of the Abe!!!

>>40239826
Hmm yeah, for some reason it seems all the ocean chuubas I can think of are on the younger side.
Ah, I see! So what is "Suyo, Soso, Taiso, Kusa" etc? Are those like ranks for the officers of the navy? And Genusui means it's an admiral?

>>40240033
A Taii is a Lieutenant, a Sosa is a Lieutenant commander, a Kusa is a Commander, a Taisa is a Captain, a Soso is a Rear admiral, a Suyo is a Vice admiral, a Taiso is a Admiral annd the Genusui-Kaiguno-Taiso is the Marshal Admiral.

>>40240316
Naruhodo naruhodo, that all makes sense, good names. I should make up cool navy rank names for my navy too, it's all just the english terms atm.

>>40240465
I took the japanese ones and translated them into Moterutonuge!!!

>>40203757
>>40208264
>>40210350
Thank you!
>>40226333
Oops that was a typo yeah... or rather that was me considering the fantasy nature of the world after the fact. Then going back to change the hero's gender to suit Kanata more.

It's a medical school. In her own Holo-lore she studied as a nurse at angel academy. And the nurse/healing theme is important so I wanted the plague to influence the academics in that medical direction. In both a practical and mystical sense. As well as a branch that studies Kanatonium radiation and the effects of that on human body. The cave city still exists beneath the academy, it's treated as both a deposit and historical site closed to the public. I didn't really have plans for the ones who marched south, it was just going to be something that emphasized the choice between following the hard path for a far off reward versus taking an easy path and losing your destiny. Symbolizing Kanata's decision to join Hololive in the first place. A lot of these hardships are symbolic of what Kanata herself had to go through, our thread was just along for the ride as fans of her. When she had her laptop stolen and had to live on her own for months without monetization that's the beginning of the journey.

The hardship of lost music I based on her giving up on music because of losing hearing in her ear. When she debuted for Hololive she was determined to not give it up and practiced to get where she is today. The armies getting turned back are metaphorical for her struggle with isolation and opening up to others, leaving behind the holohouse stuff like that. And the plague is based on the two months of covid sickness hell we endured. The city is an ideal happy state that people have to believe in before they can find, it's where we are right now or possibly in the future. And the tribe of darkness is a bit of a cliche metaphor if you want to think of it as one, but it is the despairing doomers, the ones that write paragraphs about how everything is fucked and we'll never get better. They're not "schizo" at all, just depressed.
>>40226549
Lol don't worry about it. I can edit the thing too whenever.

Bump

hump

sleepy mio bump

burp

...what the fuck is going on with screwhead

>>40250185
drugs

IS AUNTIE RISUNER HERE? I MISS HIM AND FAUNA!

>>40252338
I really MISS him too uuu.

>>40252338
Please kill yourself.

>>40252338
>>40252386

>>40252441
>>40252415
>>40252492
WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO MEAN!!! WE MISS HIM SO MUCH!!!

>>40252338
>>40252386
Suicide is the answer, Kill Yourself.

>>40252535
WORLDBUILDING THREAD BTW

>>40252535
>>40252386
>>40252338
Get lost, and go back to your containment unless you want to worldbuild.

Ah, here we observe the wild sapling, migrating outside of their natural habitat

b-but auntie risuner helps us cope with fauna... He is our fauna replacement. Why are you SO MEAN!

what am i witness???? hello friends, pcg anon here!!! is alice sol and other here??? like to discuss with them things about big war and afternath ))))

>>40252745
A bullet can help you cope better. Kill yourself and fertilize the ground with your brains, and do it outside this thread.

>>40252826
I am here!!! NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN!!! HOW WAS CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR??? What do you want to discuss as I have plans of my own to change things in terms of the CIO and post war stuff

>>40252937
tytyty!!! christmas is on 7th, since i am orthodox, but it has been wonderful!!! let me get my notes OK??? it was moslty about the peace...

>>40252937
I think he'll celebrate christmas next week

>>40253026
That's right!!!! I forgot but happy to hear you are doing great!!! Overall, I really am not a fan of the idea of the CIO being "big bad" anymore and dominating phase. I am not happy with the whole concept of this war of liberation solely because I feel like it was a rushed idea and it doesn't make total sense. So I want to re work things with you guys so that you won't have this war of liberation but Sol can get his guy too under different circumstances. Adding more powers into the region really changed it for me.

>>40253145
Oh !!! i was lost on CIO too... my notes were wondering what was the revise treaty and all since i knew it was changed. Can you give me ideas for what you plann to do exact??? voms rep would be nice to involve!!!

>>40253218
>Can you give me ideas for what you plann to do exact???
im still figuring that part out :(. But I think we can discuss the other parts of the treaty since I know a lot of what happens. Sol 774rep and AEGbro, feel free to chime in. I can get the voms rep here now!!!

>>40253282
ok!!! hope they come, let us write down aftermath too!!! not wanting to ruin canon stories like leon phokas so maybe other method???

>>40253366
Yes, we can do that!!! I think we focused too much on details of war and not the peace, which is restricting you!!!

hey pcgbro, voms rep here. Basically, the treaty will see this area ceded to us, if that's good with you and sol. Not sure on other things and ignore the crap in AEG and other stuff that i redid since this map was just one i had kek that displayed it. I thnik there was some land ceded to 774 as well...

BTW here: https://rentry.org/8iywq
This should help you get things in order if you don't have it.

>>40253586
ah tytytytytyty!!! i am not mediatior but think it make sense based on what i know, and 774 similarities. i read past treaty but unsure how it currently applies so maybe you both can come up with demands with the timelines i read and see what can be done!!!

>>40253681
Ok!!! ill see what we can do with the treaty with pcg alone. I'll try to get retro involved if he is free, and 774 anon. You can make ideas based keeping the canon with the changes to the cio!!

>>40253788
perfect! tyty!!! i will think...

>>40252338
>>40252386
>>40252535
>>40252745
SAPLING!
CATCH THEM BEFORE THEY RUN AWAY

>>40252415
>>40252441
>>40252492
>>40252580
>>40252583
>>40252650
>>40252852
STOP SAPLING BULLYING NOW

>>40252338
Aight, so since I do believe you are an actual uuu poster, what brought you here? Was it the mention of "auntie" a few days back?

>>40253979
No. They need to keep their fucking disgusting faggot discord groomer rp in their containment threads, it's repulsive and if one of them actually did kill themselves I would not be grieved. A good lot of them are vtkek faggot tourists and not even actual saplings

>>40254579
well you sure are not a good person i see

>>40254281
he didn't show up in our thread... until just now.

>>40254835
I'm a great person, a philanthropist even.

https://rentry.org/etepn
pcg anon, here is the treaty i drafted thus far. tell me what you think? im against anything more personally since geopolitics dictate some consideration to be given and the balance of power is a key idea during this period.

>>40255711
also here is a map of what is ceded...

>>40255879
>>40255711
ok tytytyty! it looks good i think! i will plan with this in mind while wait for sol.

bump

Alright squirrelman, so to remind you Meppa set up a story between us like this.
>Training cruise with Oiseau stops at Port-La-Nouvelle
>Captain tells them to be on the best behavior
https://rentry.org/Les-Gremlins-First-Cruise
Should I write the next part or you?? I think i should...

>>40255711
>>40255879
where are Gloura, Skyros, and Delos on the map? I don't see Islands named like that

>>40258400
They are literally made up islands that are probably tiny.

>>40253145
btw sup /pcg/ guy, retroanon here, i talked about this with sol before but we don't take alnd and instead are interested in your historic stuff like cannnons used in large battles, old paintings and books etc. but we won't touch the super important bits liek obviusly we ain't gonnnna steal yoour crown for example. part of that was that years later we can give some of that back in a trade when relations are healing to further good relations because /vrt/ actually likes /pcg/ with airi, lumi and tenma playing retro every so often
>>40258146
i thought you guys were on vacation in that regard?
>>40258701
might want to mark them so people know that when they read it because i got confused for a moment there

>>40259346
hello!!! ummm nicely i must say that take historic stuff is worse because it is even worse humilation than land to lose special items at all, like art reminds me of what venice did at constantinople in real world. it is ultimate humiliation since it is effective looting. if that is what you and sol decide, then its fine!!!!

>>40259346
crap i forgot.

>>40252338
>>40252386
im here saplings

>>40260302
as i said, sol and me made like a quick rating of A-D and we agreed that anything A rated would be untouched so we aren't taking your most historic pieces and most of the B rated stuff is stuff we would later trade back in your favor to get good relations again since we don't have land we gained in this and thus there is nothing really you can liberate from us like the others once you begin your freedom fight.

>>40261240
i still don't know!!! from alice, it seems no freedom fight anyway which is better...

>>40258146
>https://rentry.org/Les-Gremlins-First-Cruise
yes yes i remember now. The training that is apparently very accurate for the time. Ok I will do the next part. If I do not do it today then tomorrow is my day off

>>40261354
well i will wait till you actually decide what your endgoal is then because it seems alot is hanging in the air right now and depending on what gets decided in the end, other things might be better

>>40261863
what do you mean about other things might be better????

>>40262160
well if you think that the part of historic stuff is that bad and the general view on how those that took part in the war despite taking land changes over time thenn maybe its better if we get some land after all, i didn't want to turn this into some situation of cutting up pcg and thats why i thought about something that makes more sense for the retro reich but if you rather have it that way then i'm fine with that, i'm not trying to push you into ettinng looted if thats how it feels for you.

>>40262910
what do you want??? how important in war are you

AEGbro are you there?

>>40264803
Yes, what's up?

>>40263845
Well the Retro Reich is there as the Other big Naval force involved on the side against pcg, we are the ones that together with the remnant of the voms fleet keep you at bay on the waterside of things until the tsukinode forces can gather themselves and join in since they are form another continent. We also fund the groundforces of voms with money and other gooods to a good degree.
The reason for that from us is twofold, first is the fact that on the southern part of the corpo-liberal continent features both /tsunX/ and /pyon/ which we are very close allies with and obviously don't want you to expand towards and hurt them. the second is that any nation on the southern part of the continent uniting it would be a huge problem in terms of power shift for any nation of the north like us.
If the whole historic item part sounds too bad for you, i'm fine with waiting for now sicne i don't want to push anything and depending on how the /aeg/ rep wants to handle stuff it might make more sense for us to get our victory spoil from there instead while the other get from you.

pls don't feel rushed or pressured friend, i might be part of the grumpy old man club but as the rest we really usually are chill and patient.

>>40264928
Retro has some ideas for /corpo/ an you.

>>40265067
Cool, interested. Thread seems to have been stable

>>40265034
well, im waiting kek.

>>40264928
Alright so a potential proposal from my side:

first in regards to the phasewar thing, since it sounded you want your nation to be a bit more devastated due to all the clg and aeg stuff, would you be fine if the retro reich gets their war spoils form you whiel the others take it from /pcg/ so i'm not piling onto /pcg/ too?

second, since you are now part of /corpo/, i had the idea of that maybe retro reich also had some company like CIO but for /aeg/ and instead of jsut pure gain, part of it would be to help rebuild your economy and when the woozies come into being this deepens ours and in relation also your relationnship with corpo to the point that to truly get the nation running again, you join corpo as a nation??

>>40265457
I'll worry about the rebuilding stuff later as i saw about things changing and i have a lot of weird stuff to think about KEK. I actually like this proposal of combining since we are on the losing side of this war. Try to develop something with the treaty, as unironically for lore reasons it makes more sense for us to get hit even worse. I know voms rep wanted land so i will have to see on that but i like it overall if aeg is a rump state.

>>40265652
well how effective that company is gonna be and what else will happen inland for you is not something i want to dictate.
but i think that company then becoming a shared company for both retro reich and corpo would also be a good link of the two with woozie

maybe corpo itself is like a nation league of smaller nations and thus when the woozers come into the picture through that company we have that is what bonds you with corpo and makes you join the league

i will see what i come up for treaty on my side and giv eit to alice since she kind of is the overseer and also makes sure it stays reasonable

Besides names, i think i finished the ship stuff: https://rentry.org/5rp44 Is this fine like this???

Are the meatbros doing fine? I havent seen PG and meatbro all day

>>40240910
>the lore is based on Kanata's journey
Heimin, that is very based. Good job.

>>40266259
Kek, those schooner names are fucking great. I think my favorite is either the Enokugarine, or the Simapatetike. It's like the nice version of the british naming scheme. The tonnage numbers seem to be a bit heavier given the number of cannons for the frigates, but maybe you're using especially heavy cannons (Like bronze cannonry), have armoring, or less efficient construction techniques? The vessels will be a bit slower, but it's a not a huge deal either way. The Hearotu ofu Sea is probably the largest military vessel in the oceans kek. It might be quite slow if it's only propelled by sails, maybe it could use rowers as well? The crew is pretty large already.
>>40266900
It's not a good day for /meat/...

>>40266259
Great work on all the ships and nice details on all from what i can tell…. But your flagship… it is pretty hard if not impossible to build/get to float with current tech, has the turning radius of a tanker irl, and likely wont move unless a hurricane hits it… see this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_ship_Nuestra_Se%C3%B1ora_de_la_Sant%C3%ADsima_Trinidad
Which was a near worthless ship and weighed 2k tonnes less and had 38 less cannons. I suggest at least reducing it to the size of the link ship as it gives you that cool factor without being totally worthless in any capacity other than being a stationary gun platform in port with no other factors implemented.

>>40268029
>stationary gun platform
Huh... I wonder if that's a valid use case. It's so fucking heavy, it could be well armored. And just sitting there, shooting at stuff is basically naval bombardment or coastal defense. Like a floating fort in a bay. It wouldn't be an efficient use of resources, but maybe it could be useful.

>>40267586
TY!!! I thought sinnce they are small ships that help people so i want them to sound nice too!!! I thought those are normal weight for them?? should i make them lighter?? I don't know about armor on ships, is that a thing?? Should i make it smaller?
>>40268029
I can make it smaller if it's too big!!!

>>40268263
dunno, depends on what the goal is for it in the end, if there is any particular reasonn for it to be this big annd heavy then maybe we can find some workarounds but if that is not necessary and its jsut meant to be a big and cool ship then i would say make it more reasonable to some extent

>>40268471
well i would say make it a bit smaller then the one linked so its not jsut big but also useful, even just 130 guns and like 1/3 of the weight is already a mighty ship to have

>>40268263
I've made the ship smaller like the one linked and also made the frigates lighter, is it ok like this?

>>40268471
>I thought those are normal weight for them?? should i make them lighter?? I don't know about armor on ships, is that a thing?? Should i make it smaller?
Based on the european-inspired Age of Sail techniques adopted by some Holo and Niji countries, those would be pretty heavy given their number of cannons. The RAS Marine would probably be at or under 1800 tons of displacement, and the smaller ships would be lighter than that. And yes, ship armor is a thing, it started about where our tech level is! Bronze cladding was a thing for a while, and cladding with steel started being a thing too. But yeah, in general ships that are heavier than they need to be are slower and handle worse, so it's not preferable.
>>40268941
Yeah, the Hearotu will be a lot more useful like this! I'd also lower the weight of the frigates as I say above. Good stuff.

>>40269093
OK!!!! I made them lighter, but maybe we have armor??

>>40269612
Yeah, you could! As I mentioned, bronze-plating under the waterline is quite common, and does help a bit, so you could implement that in your military naval vessels! Iron cladding makes the vessels a lot heavier, so it's difficult to do without steam power, which is still a bit uncommon outside of more tech-oriented nations.

>>40270013
Ok!! I will ask mister Money if we can buy them like that!!! Can we sell charms with magic rock for small things like cleaning air or make insects go away?

>>40270250
I think it's doable, though magic rock things tend to be a bit expensive, so I think most people would just use incense to repel bugs kek. What kind of air cleaning do you want to do? Remove bad smells?

>>40270250
I think it's doable, though magic rock things tend to be a bit expensive, so I think most people would just use incense to repel bugs kek. What kind of air cleaning do you want to do? Remove bad smells?

>>40266259
Not to rain on ur parade, but there is no good reason to have such a large ship when the others cannot even fight in a line with it. Not to mention there is no actual way to build such a ship without a lot of experience.

>>40272460
Plenty of ships have been built for prestige before. Also, the ships are meant to be purchased from /nasfaqg/.

>>40272517
I just dont think its good worldbuilding honestly. Its why we dont have ships like this in /who/

>>40272592
The reason you don't have ships like that in /who/ is because you lack sovl. If your idea of fun was anything beside filling out endless forms and documents, you might have some ships like that.

>>40272654
Well my opinion is out there…

>>40272592
I disagree. The Hooman Republic has a very utilitarian, optimized approach to their nationbuilding, so it makes sense that their assets would be as efficient a use of resources as possible. Other nations, both in Vitubia and IRL, may have different priorities, and did make investments into military assets that did not have a high ROI. This kind of variation in national priorities enriches the world, in my personal opinion.

>>40270250
Yes, it is entirely possible to build them like that.
>>40272592
Consider: Vanity projects and national prestige. Monuments and art make little sense too for any other reason than that but I do not see you talking against them.
Not everything has to make perfect sense due to the simple fact that people themselves are illogical, and make sub-optimal choices.

>>40272592
In fact, given that the average person and by extension the average king/noble/politician is a reasonably dumb animal, it would be bad worldbuilding to have NO stupid and illogical decisions at all, or have everything work perfectly.

Hiya...I want to write for the Cunny Kingdom of /uoh/... umm, i was banned until like 5 minutes ago but i did my reps. why is /uoh/ made of ice and how the heck do we even live there?

>>40273131
You don't this is a certified /hag/ thread and DIE PEDO!

>>40273131
Early /uoh/ posters wanted to claim the massive mountains.Those are mountains with snow tops.
How you live there would then be up to you. Herding animals, trading for food, having spec bio plants or fungi that can be grown, sustaining yourself on magical cunnyjuice alone, its really up to you.

>>40273131
What chuubas do you watch, pedoanon?

>>40273131
I wonder if its possible for /uoh/ to have underground hotsprings or hotspots that make it warm but not too hot.

>>40273131
Hello. /uoh/ is located on a flat (flat, get it? DFC) plateau with a fountain of youth in the middle, that was the preference of the /uoh/anon from the start of the thread.

>>40273197
Then pay with your blood!

>>40273244
based cunnychad

>>40273201
>>40273234
>>40273238
ah, i see. I like this hotsprings idea. kek. Now...
>>40273231
Hinata, Tsugu, Yuko

Actually... that talk of underground stuff makes me wonder... What if /uoh/ was a giant series of islands under that ice sheet or whatever? That navy /hag/ talk made this idea of having a massive fleet come out of the ice sheet.

>>40273476
So, you'd have a massive underground sea below the plateau?

>>40273339
Do you like arisu chan and mya???? I am the /2434/ rep and welcome!!!!

>>40273532
yea, idk. sounds sort of cool actually. Not sure how reasonable it is but or how large it is either. How feasible is it for the entirety of /uoh/ to be like that with crying emoji rivers and shit?
>>40273534
Niji cunny underrated and forgotten. Thank you.

>>40273339
I suppose it makes sense for the fountain of youth to be a hotspring in such a cold place. And a plateau that big could still have some geothermal power. As for food you can trade gemstones from the mountain though growing animals and grass would be your best bet for food. And grass can only grow where the ground is warm enough. Grass also includes grains like wheat. Some vegetables are possible: hardy tubers and cabbages can work. Fruits outside of cold berries would be near impossible. That said if you can create greenhouse farms with air conditioning it might be possible.

>>40272592
I don't see why us doing a thing in one way should stop someone from doing a thing another way, and as said above, /who/ itself has been worldbuilt to be very utilitarian. So please don't use us as an example.

>>40273675
Hagu HATES /uoh/ what are your relations with them?

>>40273678
Man, you are really helpful with this food stuff. I'll take notes of all of this man, its great.
>>40273738
Well, if that's the way they feel then it must be so. Mortal enemies it is!


Also, leave /hag/ writer along with the ship stuff. If it is possible to make it, don't see why he can't right?

>>40273675
Part of me questions how plausible a massive underground sea is
Another part wants sunless sea kino

I suppose it could be possible if the plateau is thick enough, and there are internal natural pillars and structures that help support it.

>>40274093
As long as it can make sense, I am all for it. Have some fucking cool ass lighting too like lamps that can't be blown out by wind with that special chuubanite stuff or even different colours.

>>40273476
while i admit this does sound kino, seeing as /uoh/ is meant to be a big mountain, changing this to be a series if islands instead REALLY messes with the region of not just /uoh/ but the whole area around it

>>40274225
awww shit, well like I just said. If it doesn't make sense, I'll think of something else. Don't want to fuck with stuff.

>>40274225
This is why I was considering the underground sea thing. That could be sort of explained with erosion. The main issue is the fact that the orogeny there is supposed to be active..

>>40273837
There's one thing to keep in mind. To grow most crops you need sunlight. So you need to figure out if you can get sunlight down to your farms. You should look up /rose/ lore since they're an underground garden.

Well, i ain't about to make you guys change shit. We can have like one area with that cool underground stuff, but man... i was imagining these tunnels and all of this other stuff carved into the ground with rivers and lakes.

>>40274225
how much would it fuck with it if a single large input from the oceans led to an immense underground sea under the plateau?

>>40274093
Some kind of ice cap with massive underwater lakes? That's not only plausible, that's a real thing.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aar4353
Some adjustments would be need for the lakes to have enough headspace for boats and people, but I think we can shuffle it. For climate and tectonic purposes, there just needs to still be a plateau there, and an icecap on top. What happens beneath the ice cap can change.

>>40274384
I wasnt thinking beneath the ice, but there being a massive layer of rock beneath the ice too,and below that a massive cavern and an underground sea

>>40274451
I'm trying to think of a mechanism for a massive rock cavern inside an active orogenous region... Is there a specific reason you prefer the ceiling to be rock instead of ice? I don't think it changes a lot practically.

>>40274761
oh im not cunnyanon, i was just musing about my own ideas for what he thought

So /uoh/ is Anarctica but instead if secret underground nazis its lolis? And yes I'm aware this is a joke. Also look up Anarctica's underground super volcanoes.

Another idea is that the plateau is actually a massive temple like in Breath of the Wild. Though how such temple being built and still stand strong will be a mystery.

>>40274761
Giant ass worm that dug it out.

>>40274370
>>40274761
You can see here what I thought, I don't know this geological shit to know if its a bad thing or not, or if I am fucking over myself in terms of resources or not; or /hag/ or any other nation.

>>40274849
disregard resources and powergaming, just do whats fun

As long as you dont fuckup the climate, add or remove too many features, and there is a reasonable explanation to everything, its OK imo

>>40274827
Make it secret underground nazi lolis and you've got yourself some kino

These subglacial cavities can get pretty big: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/huge-cavity-in-antarctic-glacier-signals-rapid-decay
This would be an interesting place to be, you'd get rain, not from precipitation but from glacial melt. Might get the occasional chunk of ice falling in.
>>40274844
That would do it. There's precedent for it in Vitubia too. That would be a scary place to live, though...

>>40274929
Yea now that is a fetish that needs exploring, and maybe I will bring it. This sanalite is really based.
>>40274900
My thoughts exactly kek.

>>40274849
Could look into what I said earlier that the ice-cap sits on a temple. An underground sea is possible. There are massive salt seas that are land locked like the Dead Sea. The question is do you want your sea to be freshwater or salt water? If its fresh water then the underwater sea works more like an aquifer. As for food you can replace photosynthetic crops with chemosynthetic organisms that feed off of volcano vents.

>>40188148
https://rentry.org/cunny-lore
Anchor this under Cunny Kingdom (/uoh/). Synthesized all lore and some meme shit in here. Will take it more seriously later.

>>40275174
Man you work fast for someone that just came in a few minutes ago.

>>40275258
I had this shit down for a week in a doc, just needed to put it in a rentry. was banned for a while for posting lewds.

>>40274384
I doubt that would be a viable approach since the existence of subglacial lakes is caused by the high pressure exerted upon them by the ice sheets above. That eliminates the existence of any sizeable air pockets and also make the environment unsurvivable to most lifeform.

>>40274761
Lava caves are the one that comes to mind, although while they are sizeable, their width is somewhat limited (the widest one I can find is 22m), and they don't seem to be too long either. RL's largest cave systems are invariably limestone caves which do not bode well with active orogenic zones, and those can achieve pretty impressive interior size, to say nothing about how deep they can go. Any of these options could be partially flooded, although the result would be more like underground rivers than a singular sea since natural domes can only get so large before collapsing.

>>40275298
Yeah sure, i don't believe this, you are way on top of this, defend hagchad despite you not even knowing him, and all your pics are just from the current /uoh/ thread with exact same name that have never been posted like that before. This reeks of bullshit and you are not even trying to hide it. Even more so after Z just wanted to play cunny rep a while ago.

>>40275609
Bro, I just posted them you moron. I know your game, you want to start drama here all the time but it isn't working with me. Take a fucking hike, kid.

>>40275692
> umm, i was banned until like 5 minutes ago
>>40273131
I thought you were banned until just a while ago? How then can you post those while being banned? Couldn't even keep your own story straight for one day. Dunno why you even lie when people said they are fine with others writing for fetish threads, this is just sad.

>>40275530
>which do not bode well with active orogenic zones
Actually never mind that part. Uplifting of ancient ocean floors caused by flat slab subduction could allow both orogenic plateaus and large limestone formations to coexist.

>>40275692
Yo sup, welcome to the project, cunnybro. Good start, I especially like the undergound cave systems and oceans you proposed. Pure fucking kino. Nazi lolis, idk I'll have to think whether that is kino or no. anyway, as you seem to be getting hit with the ol "IT'S A FUCKING FALSEFLAGGER!" timeloop, I just wanna say the following, which is also for all the other anons on here.

We have a precedent with anons being writers for other threads while being reps for their own, so if any of you are thinking about falseflagging as an anon to do that, why? Just say you don't want to be the rep for your current nation, but a normal writer(in which case the role of rep would fall on any other writers for that thread that want to take it or come in the future) and say you want to move on and rep a different thread. Simple and easy. Here, I'll start. After I finish up /nasa/, I will hang up the coat and move on to shishilami, as botan is my JPoshi, to write and rep for them. (If any anons from there are lurking in here, I would love to write with you, stop being shy)

>>40275874
Yea, you can believe what you want. All Hinata posts are me, and I downloaded the other ones.

>>40276314
I see, thanks. Sanalites are based.

>>40276314
Are you not going to be writing any more /rrat/ stuff in the near future then?

>>40276336
Oh NOW you downloaded the rest and only posted the Hinata ones. Way to change the tune on the spot.

>>40276455
k.

>>40276434
That we are mate, down to the last man! I'm really interested what you do with the underground sea idea, it would make for a fantastic setting for stories, and a really unique biome.

>>40276449
I quit /rrat/ a while ago. Rratbro didn't want my shitposting to be associated with him or /rrat/, so I left. Don't want him to stress over one of the writers he would be working most closely with. And he'll do fine on his own anyway, the guy can write great stuff!

Don't make me bring out the fly swatter.

>>40276693
Oh yeah for sure, I might dip my toes into story ideas soon, got some brewing that are hard to explain.

>>40276724
This one time I'll lend you The Brick. Bring it back before 9pm.

Alright, the province update should now be live for the interactive map. Come check it out!
--> https://vtwbg.github.io/ <--
This update also features another thing I've been wanting to add for a while now, in-universe names for threads! If I fucked up your nation's name then please let me know and make it more clear in your lore docs kek so I can go fix it. And just a reminder that the "Download All" button will give you the zip with all the map layers if you need it for working on your own local maps. This should bring the interactive map up to date except for using 3.0 since it's unfinished but if there are any other concerns with the site then just give me a holler. Happy worldbuilding!
>>40188148
Anchoring picrel as the final version of the pre-provincing map in case anyone wants it for reference or if a future rep wants to see their original borders.
>>40197163
>Thank you. I really do like the placement I have, the arctic tundra is really an interesting place.
You can compare between picrel and the site to decide if you want your old borders or if you want to form new ones in the same region by selecting a few provinces to be your territory. Once you've chosen your borders, be sure to reply to the vote anchor so it can be made official.
>>40275174
And I see we already have our first name change. I'll mark you down as Cunny Kingdom in the next update along with any other nations that need to be renamed. Welcome to the thread!

>>40276693
It'd be a unique biome sure. My only concern is getting enough sunlight for plants and algea.

>>40276782
> the province update
O SHIT!

>>40276787
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

>>40276782
Looking good mapanon! You outdid yourself with this. I especially like the seperate modes for borders, so the provinces can be hidden if we want to.

>>40276744
go kill yourself z. deadbro knows its you.

>>40277023
Thx! Yeah, I thought it looked a bit overcluttered with all the provinces so I figured it would be best to leave them partially hidden since they're not always needed.

>>40276787
Figuring shit out for that is the interesting part tho, sanalite.

>>40277165
Now if only I could do that for my height map...but no, each province has to have it's own layer folder, so I can combine them into countries like I wish...

>>40277039
Deadbeat is too busy being a weeb in MonHun with me to care about that stuff, I am afraid.

>>40277255
And that's why I brought up a concern. Some ideas did pop up. Perhaps if its possible the ice cap can be thin enough in some areas its like a natural greenhouse. The ice would be thin enough for sunlight to pass through. It would also be cold enough that the ice won't melt.

>>40277507
Yeah, that would be pretty cool but dangerous if the ice breaks right? Unless it is some kind of special ice.

>>40276782
Oh,you should add in /ppt/ again, heiminrep posted lore just this thread

>>40278036
Speedreaderchama, he adressed that, and is waiting for a response from him.

>>40278100
Ah, my bad, im a retard

>>40278036
Even if he does take his old borders back, as we saw with Hagu, we'll have to hold a vote on it regardless, though maybe we should vote on whether that's strictly necessary if the land is still unoccupied...

bump

So idk how diplomacy works. Any help?

>>40281040
You talk to people here and see if they want to make deals with your country!

>>40281040
just don't worry about it, I'd recommend sorting out your own lore first before starting interactions with others

>>40281272
>>40281242
Got it, thanks guys.

sex with shondo. ToT she is just like my waifu alice chan.

Test. But was 4chan down for everyone. I got a bad gateway on captcha and thought I was banned by Cloudflare.

>>40283049
is true

>>40282202
Sorry bro, but she will be mine then, whoever this alice chan is. Cunny love is Cunny life, oh how I wish I had a cunny wife.

>>40273714
>>40272728
>>40272654
>>40272984
>>40272712
That ain't me. And I don't think the other hooman checks here regularly especially when the bullcrap in the thread has been worse than usual for the past few weeks.

>>40272517
I do have one problem and that's just with the problem of funding it. 1st rates are freaking expensive to maintain and to build. Depending on /hag/'s economic hard factors it might not make sense for them to build (or buy) such a huge ship. Not everyone is the Spanish Empire or Imperial China. But that's getting to close to power scaling. One thing I would suggest is to downsize /hag/'s overall navy so it makes a little more sense for them to have such a huge ship.

>>40283427
Alice is very nice sweet girl. Welcome fucker, and good luck with her.

>>40283557
>That ain't me
donmai, i already knew, figured an actual hooman reply would be needed

>>40283882
I don't need luck. Aren't you that "Auntie Risuner" dude the saplings fuck with?

>>40283557
they list liek 60 ships which seems to include the trading ships itself and mostly smaller ships that others don't even list in their navy stuff, how is that so much that it makes one ship of the line such an unfeasable thing to have?

>>40284300
I still haven't read the lore doc so I was only going off of the thread discussions. Also I wanted to clear things up ASAP when chan went back up. I'll check all the entries posted now.

>>40284300
Nice to see you back Retro! i watched that wholeshit show where you made it clear how much you and 3beat hated z. pretty based, and you really taught Alice a lesson too. I love you retro for providing me with such great content.

>>40284713
OOPSY

>>40284828
DOUBLE OOPSIE!

>>40284713
Coward, fess up

Kill yourself now.

>>40284713
>>40284828
yea mate, me and alice hate each other so much she even wished me a happy new year and i shared a video of the fireworks i took with her

and anyone who wants to knwo the context can jsut join the cord and see for themselves, lots of grievances and misunderstandings got aired today and should better health of relationships, yes i am not happy how that last one ended and how people treated the covnersation towards the end but ehh, such is life in the serengeti

>>40284690
also really? stop assuming things before checkign them yourself, the rentry is there

ass

>>40286324
Past bump limit.

>>40286159
Assumed it's pretty long so wanted to save it when reading it on a non-mobile device. Didn't expect it to be a ship roster list. Yeah since they don't have any other ships of the line I'm fine with things.

Ass

>>40286457
it is bump limit shmuckus khan

>>40286908
Umm... Hello I guess. Kiara has best thighs.

>>40289385
New bread