/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

pander to kiwifags and vtfags

Pippa. I don't think the company is actually doing anything in particular that makes them stand out from the others.

>>40205228
they show their feet on stream. other agencies take note

>>40205337
/thread

Intensive shilling (it's working)

>>40205228
hiring young zoomie whores instead of hags

>>40205770
Erina is a hag

for real, Pippa is a generational talent, and they have very good mix of chuubas.
Tenma, Lia, Lumi, Panko, and Erina are great.

the company is like 10 girls deep in quality

Pippa is successful because she needs to be, literally the only thing that motivates her is being an online entertainer, if she fucks it up she'll have to work a normal job which she feels she can't handle and she's probably not wrong, a lot of other vtubers have shit to fall back on, Pippa doesn't, so she puts in more effort. She has the advantage over most other vtubers because she's been trying the streaming/video making game for much longer than vtubing's been around, she just has more experience in her skills than most trying their luck with small corpos.

The company is shit: the chink management doesn't realise what a gem they have, and will ruin it if they're given the slightest opportunity to do so.

>>40205828
Erina is the biggest zoomer in pc only maybe after Lia

>>40205228
Pippa put them on the map honestly but while she can be kind of exhausting/feel like a gimmick after a while, she's good in small doses really.. however, they are doing a good job having her be like an ambassador introducing the other Phase girls with great collabs that helps grow them all.

Other companies might, if they're lucky, have one success story like Nene or Shiki at like 100k subs but she's surrounded by a bunch of literal-who girls (maybe even from the same gen) with like 10-20k subs. PC however has a lot of their talents growing at a decent pace, Pippa is over 100k but Lia is at almost 50 and Tenma is at 70, it's not a huge stark difference making it feel like they have one fluke success and the rest is 2view land. Many PCs are doing pretty good all around. Their second gen is also growing at very similar rate all around and while at first I had the "these are nameless literal-whos.." at first I'm starting to like some of them like Panko and Wemi and am glad they're there.

Lastly, they're also rather unlike other corpos with the invaders thing, they just adopted Lumi and Yuri because they could and Lumi is close to 4view territory these days. Instead of get in some huge hissy fit over not having designed and recruited these girls from the ground up acting like they're god's gift to man, fishman instead is more pragmatic/adaptable and can mix a bit of the vshojo strategy of "just take someone in directly" with making their own ground-up girls too.

>>40205228
>best company
>all but one are 2 view

>>40206091
This thing with having her back to the wall IRL so -needing- this to work is actually the story of like half the HoloMyths, arguably all of them actually except Ina. We just forgot how dirt poor they were at the start and think of them as snobby and spoiled as they are now. While Pippa is nothing like them, her motivation to be an actual entertainer and to care about her content seriously is very very heartening to see.

>>40206593
Good post

>>40205228
boyfriend connect

>>40206593
Shill post

>>40205228
Hiring menhera sad girls

tsunderia is the best because it has Lisa and Ami

>>40207207
inb4 poachbegging

>>40205228
Pippa is their only success.
One chuuba does not make a company successful yet.

Phase has an obscenely good EN Gen1 that is the heart, soul and identity of the company.
>Pippa is legit and gonna take off even more as she leans more into the void that has been left by Jim
>Tenma is great classic chuuba with her own flair and is constantly pushing 4view on YT
>Lia was left for dead, but has stormed back to be one of the most entertaining girls they have. Her turnaround has been remarkable
>Uruka offers something nobody else in the company does being the musical chuuba

the only thing that will stop Phase Connect is Sakana, but he seems like he listens. He has done some dumb shit, but has pulled back on it because he listens to his talent.

>>40207482
They've got multiple girls who sometimes hit 4view, Pippa is the big one but as was said the company isn't just-her running the show. It kind of was a year ago but actually Pippa talk is probably the minority of PC discussion these days in their thread besides when she streams (which does pretty much take over the thread, but she is basically at nijiEN tier popular now both ccv and vod view wise, so that's to be expected).

>>40207553
they have one other girl who hits 4view Youtube if she is playing South Park: Tenma.

Fauna and Mumei should join Phase Connect if they want to see their numbers and earnings grow. Hololive is a sinking ship at this rate.

All that shilling makes me hate PC even more.

>>40206749
>the story of like half the HoloMyths, arguably all of them actually except Ina
The only poorfag in Myth is Amelia. The rest were either rich or at least well off.

>>40207805
Cope. You fags shilled Hololive for 2 years and never gave the smaller corpos a chance. Getting Tempiss and watching Hololive slowly but surely burn to its inevitable death is karma for you.

>>40207949
>doesn’t deny constant astroturfing just copes and seethes when it’s pointed out

I don't watch Phase as much as I used to anymore but I really appreciate that there's variety in the vtuber sphere as a whole, and seeing some of their talents reach a bigger audience is what they deserve for making outside the box content, there has been an increase in small corpos viewership lately and it's just nice to see, there's a bright future ahead of us

>>40207488
Lia finding some success against all odds is my favorite phase story. love it when people face adversity but don't crumble even though they don't think they can make it.
the fact that she credits her genmates like Pippa and Tenma and Muumi for helping her tells me how close of a bond the group has. so long as that bond is there, the company will be ok.

>>40205228
>Agency
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Pippa is the sole talent there hard carrying everybody else. If she went indie everybody else would go from being literal who 2views to literal who 0views and the company would eventually go bankrupt. Your question should be "What did Pippa do right that many others did wrong?"

I love Phase Connect please stop shilling it I beg you.
Are you faggots actually antis trying to make people hate it?
Nothing gets people to hate something as much as shameless shilling.

>no one cared who i was until put on the rabbit ears

>>40210208
I am not a paid shill but one of their 2nd gen girls, Shiina went from 2k view videos to 4.5k view videos within the past two months.
She will likely hit 50k subs within the next few months.

>>40210517
has she shared her wonton recipe yet

>>40208595
Anon, could you elaborate? I am a newfag here. From what I can see, Lia's numbers seem flat lined and half of her 45k subs seem dead. Despite how much I see her being mentioned here, she is doing just the same as the literal who's from 2nd Gen.

is that Henri faggot still making these blatant shilling threads? just fuck off and stop making these threads.
If you want to know why other EN companies have seen a slight increase in their numbers, it's because HoloEN has been a dumpster fire for months and some of their fans are giving other corpos a chance, corpos with streamers that actually stream and don't have to deal with the autistic Japanese permissions bullshit

>>40210279
Why are you downplaying Phase's potential growth that it could have this year?

>>40205228
unbridled schizophrenia

>>40207949
>Shitting on tempus and hololive for unicorn reasons
>while defending the corpo with most confirmed vtuber boyfriends, even MORE male collabs and even an unironic tranny collab from the loli fox.

>>40210586
her ccv has gone from 50 to 300-400

>>40210733
I'm not downplaying it I just don't want this shilled or blown out of proportions.
Also PIPPA had some massive growth in 2022, the rest of Phase is kinda stuck at small corpo level, maybe slightly higher than the other small corpos.
Lia has been going up lately, whenever she's allowed to be herself she inclines.
Everyone else kinda stagnant.
I do wonder how much Pippa will incline this year, she won't have the benefit of interacting with Jim and getting some of his viewers anymore, she already did the feet reveal and it doesn't seem like fishman will let her interact with real youtubers despite how much she wants it.
If she's stuck playing by the same rules as a normal vtuber I don't expect her growth to continue as before.

Honestly? Tsunderia and PRISM fucked up.

>>40210586
her viewership is doing well compared to 6 months ago

>>40205228
I'm sorry but you mean kawaii right?

>>40206284
Shiina and Airi.

>>40206749
>half the holomyths
Gura already had a thing she was just lazy (still is but rich now)
Ina had a thing
Mori's problems were self-inflicted she was never in any 'real' trouble
Kiara same as Mori
Amelia arguably the same as Gura

>>40212256
>>40210586
All of phase connect is growing quickly lately. If you check back in another year, Lia will probably be getting a thousand viewers.

>>40212363
Kawaii is also doing okay.

>>40210973
>cyberlive/aetheria
Internal drama
>tsunderia
Breakout talents like Kana kept quitting
>prism
Their top girls got complacent and took breaks for several months at a time

>>40207488
I do like how when the fish was told he was bad at something he hired someone to do it for him

>>40207805
Your seething over vtuber threads on the vtuber board isn't going to change anything and it won't bring you any happiness either - which is good because you don't deserve nice things.
What do you whining retards even think will happen? People will fear your wrath and only make threads retards like you personally approve of?

>>40210675
>>40210279
You're also retarded for feeding into it.

>>40210586
Lias ccv at the start of 2022 was 60. it's a pretty major incline

>>40205228
They did many things right. First and foremost, they have an excellent if not the best roster of girls currently in vtubing. This applies both to Gen 1 and Gen 2.

Sakana is actually listening to feedback from his own talents and the fans. The company is actively trying to be in touch with its audience.

The girls are encouraged to come up with their own style and content and make both distinct, so they aren't competing with each other. This makes the company have a chuuba for anyone, so even if you don't watch any other you'll still have that specific one that appeals to you. Despite this the company has a distinct style and feel that's hard to explain. They can't be regarded as seiso, but they're not too vulgar either. They fill that comfortable middle that doesn't seem forced or tryhard, and there's a degree of realism to the girls. They're neither too lewd nor too sterile, just natural like actual fucking people. Furthermore, the company started from nothing. Pippa spoke of this often and she initially thought it was a scam or a black company. She herself had numerous total failures on being a content creator, so this was her best chance to make it and make it she did. All the painful failures of before were her learning how to do things properly and this knowledge serves her well. Gen 2 was on hold for a long while, but they all talked and spent time together and got to know each other really well before debuting, and thus had actual chemistry, a sense of community and a desire to grind and succeed. Naturally they also hung out with Gen 1. It was all very obvious even from the start.

Invaders (Lumi and Yuri) were also amazing additions to the company. I dislike Lumi's new model, and sadly Yuri is sickly and has family issues now and doesn't stream too often. But they both have value and pull their weight.

The girls have a lot of freedom and aren't heavily restricted, and this ties back to the bit I said how they're neither too edgy nor too vulgar without feeling sterile. This just comes down to their personalities in the end. They're all appealing. You have everything here, from Panko's little sister charm to Remi's GFE across Lia's insanity to Pippa being Pippa to Shiina's everything. The company is based on talents, not on BRAND NAME like Hololive or Nijisanji. It just feels organic and grassroots, authentic. It's a product of work and starting from scratch.

No males.

>>40212363
most of kawaii isn't doing so hot. gen 3 has decent ccv across the board, oceane has great ccv and subs, aletta has good subs. most of gen 1 and 2 is stagnant and irrelevant tier, however, except for nene

>>40214148
They're not doing great but not poorly either.
Most of gen 1 and 2 are holding up, but don't seem to be growing.
Gen 3 just settled at a similar level as past gens.
It really is just Nene and Oceane above the rest. I guess gen 3 is successful enough if most of them are ok and at least one of them was a hit.
I don't think Nene is going up anymore tho she seems to have peaked.

>>40207482
Tenma does decent numbers too

>>40210517
She gets raided by the biggest girls in the company almost every day, she's nothing impressive. She can't even manage to incline with the gifted viewers she has, she's been stuck at 300CCV since the beginning. There are better talents in phase, Erina Panko and Lia for example.

>>40205228
sakana hiring prime autistic pussy was a good take since it brought pippa and tenma (the most subs phase girls), howeverpippa is still a woman and maybe with time she will stop spouting "wrong" opinions and start being the blandest bitch ever

>>40205228
Literally Pippa. The fish himself has no idea what he's doing. But it really was Pippa who had the most knowledge about Vtuber culture and thus she, and therefore Phase, used it to their advantage.

>>40207175
The only good answer

>>40215335
Fishman should just let Pippa have some sort of creative co-manager position.
I'm not even joking or saying this lightly.
Pippa is some sort of streaming savant, she binges tons of fleshtubers, follows vtuber recaps, clip channels.
She knows the tropes and the meta of being a vtuber.
When she had her AI vtuber stream you could clearly see that with just a tiny bit of inspiration she was able to come up with an entire character's lore and kayfabe.
She knew how to attract a new audience that wasn't conventional vtuber fans.
This is the blue ocean strategy, which Nintendo with the Wii to make it such a success, basically when a market is fully tapped and has reached its peak trying to compete is very expensive with small rewards.
Instead tap a completely new market, go to where there is no competition, expand your demographic.
Pippa did this with /here/ and shitposting fans. Other vtubers try to appeal to gachis or idol fans or reddit.
But she appealed to a group that didn't have their own vtubers and succeeded.
She wouldn't push the same strategy to every vtuber but she would be able to find a market for others to target and she'd be able to help fishman hire girls that had talent for showbiz and entertainment that could have a lot of vtuber potential.
Seriously fishman just give her some creative control.

>>40205228
Why are you making the same thread every two weeks?

>>40214097
> First and foremost, they have an excellent if not the best roster of girls currently in vtubing. This applies both to Gen 1 and Gen 2.

Yeah I don't even consider myself a "huge" Phase Connect fan and I agree with this. Their talent scouts are on point. Every girl in Phase Connect is at least GOOD, not all of them are great but they don't have a single stinker currently.

I don't think it can be understated how much nerds value consistency. Nerds will put up with mediocrity for YEARS on end so long as it's consistent. Unironically because autism hates change and obsesses over reliability.

>>40215644
>Instead tap a completely new market, go to where there is no competition, expand your demographic.
This, THIS is what Fishman and Xalamon failed to get during the discord censorship arc. If it wasn't for Pippa Phase would not have its own identity.

>>40210517
Shiina should be much bigger than she is. She should Tenma size by now.
>came it at the highest ccv of her Gen at 300
>6 months later is still at about 300 unless it's a special stream
>gets fed big raids from Pippa, Tenma and Lumi constantly, but all this has translated to is dead subs
>is being pushed extremely hard by Phase Connect to incline
>skipped the line and got a 3D model over her senpais because Phase wants her to be big so bad
picrel was a planned raid not by accident, it was 100% a plan to try and boost Shiina. It got her 3k subs for free and she over took Erina as most subbed without any doing of her own

The are other genmates of hers who don't get the benefits that she does

I read Pippa was the first hire, what's the vod she said that in ?

>>40216250
Is this the wonton one?

>>40216250
I hate Shiina more than you could believe. She is a snake and a weasel.
Erina worked so hard to get her subs, and then all of the sudden a Pippa raid takes that away from her.

>>40216250
shiina doesn't deserve anything she has

>>40214097
gen 2 phase is trash

>>40216387
I don’t understand why shins creates such seething hatred. She’s not doing anything dishonest at all. She’s just smart and works hard.

Literal whos?

>>40205228
who

>>40216510
Her entire streaming schedule since Day 1 has been planned around picking off raids and view funneling. She streams at 6 so she can get a Tenma raid uncontested, then she gets back online and streams at 11 so she can try to get Pippa/Lumi.

"smart" as you call it.

>>40216250
I like Shiina and I think she has potential. She's fun and cute and seems very smart and refined.
She's a good vanilla streamer. Sometimes she shows she has a bit more edge but we only get glimpses of it.
I think she can work as a face and that's fine.
But if her numbers aren't going up despite all the raids that simply means she's not able to retain that attention. Sometimes raiding someone doesn't mean they will grow, raiding just gives someone a chance to be seen it doesn't mean people will actually enjoy it.
The feet stream is a good example of a wasted potential.
Do you really think the people coming to see Pippa's feet stream are gonna be into Shiina's jrpg gaming stream?
I guess someone at management thought so but to me that looks obviously wrong. The feet stream attracted a lot of people just wanting to see the shit show. A regular vanilla gaming stream is as far from the feet stream as it can possibly get.
If they had raided Lia while she was doing some weird shit I think she could have retained many of those viewers. CWC stream or her weird zatsu streams or just her talking about wanting to fuck the animatronic bear or being autistic about genshin lore.
Hell even Remi doing some of her weirder shit would have retained some viewers. Remember the toilet review stream? Or the Tomato eating stream?
I'm not saying they should give up on Shiina but they should stop trying to push her when it doesn't make sense.

>>40216621
So?
That just means she's being smart and trying to catch the crumbs she can get. Other girls should do it too.
I think it would be much worse if there was no one in Phase Connect to get the raids.

>>40216250
she's not particularly entertaining, either. She is fine. milquetoast.
there is a reason why she has poor retention and hasn't seen big ccv gains despite being gifted thousands in raids.
she has her fanbase dont get me wrong

t. pippa watcher who has been raided into her a bunch and always groan when I hear "let's raid into.... shina!"

>>40205228
unity of twitch + youtube makes wonder

>>40216636
Remi's situation is strange. I saw her retain raid viewers for hours, yet she isn't growing as one would expect (though she is bit by bit).

>>40216686
she's just annoying, that's the reason why everyone hates her. shiina doesn't deserve what she has and everyone knows it.

>>40216621
some people do anything to try and get ahead. meanwhile girls like panko and erina are over there growing on their own. they dont get many raids. they will win in the long run.

>>40216839
maybe because "raid retention" is worthless
people put too much stock in raids. all it will do is boost dead subs.

what it will lead to is "I have 50k or 100k subs, but my ccv is stagnant!!! what am i doing wrong?!!!"
it's called your content is shit and you need to hit the gym.

>>40216250
>picrel was a planned raid not by accident,
Their master plan was to have Pippa raid Shiina while Shiina was playing a massive debuff game. You're a genius. Bonus points for Shiina almost missing the raid because she was just about to end her stream.

>>40216878
Everyone being just you?

>>40216839
Strange situation for a strange girl.
Her ESL might filter people. She also plays into her kayfabe hard which isn't for everyone. She acts like a retarded little girl like an actual child but she also acts super parasocial to her chat in a weird daddy/daughter way but also makes it romantic.
She can't play games because her laptop is trash, that might change now that she bought a new PC though.
Her original content isn't as common as it is for Pippa or Lia but she does come up with some interesting shit sometimes.
Her times are also very inconsistent and different from everyone else which also affects her.
Consistency is one of the keys to growth and she has changed her streaming times a few times. She's also stuck at a weird asian timezone.

>>40216636
The only people who can retain raids in Phase are Lia and Panko, everyone else just wastes them.
Panko doesn't even get many raids but when she does she can always keep them entertained even when playing fucking Elden Ring (panko please finish that game already).

>>40217070
cope, griftnigger
funny thing is the thread was calling out how Shinna was the only one streaming thru sucha. huge event and said it was because of the raid... and wouldn't you know?

shinna will do ANYTHING it takes.

>>40217194
This whore

>>40214097
>First and foremost, they have an excellent if not the best roster of girls currently in vtubing. This applies both to Gen 1 and Gen 2.
You wouldn't give a shit about most of them if they weren't in Phase Connect, be honest with yourself

>>40217375
Phase Connect fans aren't blue dorito fans

idolEN has the best vtuber roster in the western side of the industry
there I said it

>>40217375
The only ones I watched before Phase were Pippa and Tenma, and seeing their growth in comparison to everyone else now, it makes so much sense in retrospective

>>40217485
They have a solid roster for sure, let's see if they can keep it up

>>40217194
don't understand how people will defend shiina of all people

Honestly I hope fishman hires kirsche because he's more of the blue ocean non standard vtubers. The shiinas and airis are fine but phase connect needs more pippas and lias too.
I think kirsche would actually retain some of Pippa's raids and she streams a lot in a typical twitch streamer style so kirsche taking some of Pippa's leftovers and making use of them whenever Pippa is not streaming would put give the company as a whole more viewtime.

Holofags FEAR the rise of the small corpos.

>>40215644
I have a feeling Pippa would hate being a manager. Too much admin bullshit and not enough audience interaction.

>>40217718
I've seen this repeated a few times, but where do you retards think all of the new smallcorpo viewers are coming from? Pippa is probably an exception, but most of the rest are disillusioned holoEN refugees fleeing tempiss.

>>40217785
I wasn't trying to say she should be a manager, just a creative co-manager. Have the normal manager in charge but Pippa just acts as a creative consultant.
Basically whenever they are hiring new girls let Pippa take a look at them and hear what she has to say.
Whenever they are designing characters seek her opinions about what they can do.
And whenever a girl is pitching an idea for content let Pippa give her opinion about it and listen to what she says. If she supports an idea take that into consideration. And if a girl is having a creative block and doesn't know what to do or needs some direction Pippa could offer her input as well and tell them stuff they could do to improve.
It might be a bit challenging at first because she's not the most sociable but she has a lot of talent and if she gave herself room to grow she could do much more than just stream on her own.

>>40216489
This.
gentoo is pretty mediocre, and that's pretty damning in a world with 100+ EN tubers to choose from.

Do phase fans always communicate in essays?

>>40217546
>>40217194

I don't see the problem with this. Business is ruthless. You have to do things like this to get ahead in life.

>>40218222

>>40218128
Yeah, I gave them a chance once they debuted but I lost interest about a few weeks after, they are ok but not something worth investing time into watching

>>40216250
I'm not even going to read the replies because it's likely to be damage control and /pcg/ sisters seething but this is all true.

>>40218253
she’s still a leeching cunt regardless

>>40217485
They don't.
If you like copycats and skinwalkers tho.. mmmh, sure!

>>40205228
Talents, Muumi, and Pippa giving the company their own identity. The fishman himself has no fucking clue, he's literally Miao, and Phase has the WORST modding team in all corporate vtubing

>>40207488
Noone in the company will match Pippa's growth because she has a unique image for most of the Vtuber world. However even the low view Gen 2 are growing quickly into very entertaining streamers.

>>40218128
For the most part, yes, they're mediocre. Shiina is boring and only relies on raids, Rie and Airi aren't constant enough (reasons: menhera and black company), Remi has a shitty schedule and the only thing she can do is coombait, but there are two hidden gems: Erina and Panko. They're extremely high quality, have good knowledge of memes and their voice is SEX.

>>40215644
>>40218107
All that text just to prove you don't know anything about the owl, Pippa's fanbase or her old streams. Why do you even bother?

>>40219253
He's the one who personally hired them all.

>>40217194
Are you the guy who tried and failed to groom Shiina back in the day?
If there was this master raid plan Shiina would have had something prepared instead of long game, part 4, hour 4. This is very easy to see for non retarded people.

>>40219320
Nobody needs to match Pippa’s popularity.
They just need to keep showing viewership gains, and the ones that have show growth need to be prioritized/advertised.

>>40219926
He knows that Pippa is their biggest talent, he knows that Lumi and Tenma are their 2nd and 3rd biggest talent.
He knows that Tenma is Pippa's best friend and only joined because of her, he might also know that Pippa is the driving force behind getting Lumi and Yuri to Phase and that another small corpo has a Pippa-friend as their now biggest talent. I wonder if Fish had the option of hiring her and fumbled.
You seem to think that watching a bunch of PL clips makes you some 1337 hax0r, but that's not the case.

At least that's what my mindreading is telling me.

>>40220863
Lumi joined because of Yuri and Yuri because of Lia. Pippa was only a bonus, not the reason, a common mistake of rrat peddlers.

If he wasn't lacking critical info, he'd know she'd be incapable and unwilling to manage herself, let alone others. He'd also know that most of her fanbase is not transferable, majority only watches her and is not interested in vtubing.

>>40205228
idk but thank god their ceo doesn't show his face i hate searching clips of hololive (and to a lesser quantity niji) or browse vt and it's full of the middle aged japan men and the other .
I JUST WANNA SEE CUTE 2D GIRLS YOU BUNCH OF FUCKING RETARDS

>>40221885
*other zoomer guy

>>40206091
Her boyfriend is employed though

>>40221610
I didn't say she had to be a manager, just a sort of creative consultant.
The guy that comes up with the ideas for stuff and gives an input, not the guy that executes them.

>>40205228
Because the bar for small companies is so low just going one year without graduations or major drama is a massive accomplishment

>>40221965
Let her be Anon, she needs the money. Having a single breadwinner in America is guaranteed poverty.
If you take Pippa's comments at face value, neither she or her boyfriend seem to have proper medical insurance.

Shiina is a fucking WHORE
A very sexy whore I wanna have her fat ass on my face after a workout at planet fitness

>>40222416
>the bar for small companies is so low just going one year without graduations
Yeah, they should be like the big corpos that can totally go 1 year without graduations...

>>40222253
Thats called "idea guy" and it's completely useless. PC already has Mins as a designer and he never dissapointed. Not to mention, girls had enough feedback without needing yet another person telling them what to do.

>Lia is Tail's mother
Jesus...

>>40222536
Having a creative genius, deeply invested in the field and very knowledgeable, with a lot of experience and success sharing their expertise is something companies often pay a lot for and you are just taking it for granted.

>>40216250
I would understand her getting priority treatment if she was either the biggest or smallest of her gen, with one being striking while the iron is hot, and the other, a helping hand to level the group a bit, but the shiina shiilling is so random and out of left field, it just feels really unfair for the rest of gen 3

>>40224799
Who's a better alternative? everybody else has timeslot troubles which render them unable to receive consistent Pippa raids. Wemi is SEA hours, Airi's irl job keeps getting in the way, Panko is eurohours...

I'll admit I don't know much about Erina, do you think she'd make a better shill prospect over Shiina?

>>40225245
Oh yeah I forgot Hime, she's AUS hours so my point still stands also the /pol/ contingent in /here/ probably hates her already so.

>>40205228
best small is the biggest cope phase cuck can utter

cancel the 4view Lumi talk.
she is back down to what she was doing

>>40224799
>priority
I don't watch Shiina she is not my speed

However, Lia, who is technically her senpai and is someone Shinna took priority over for 3D, said it best
> I am disappointed I didn't get 3D cause I'd want it, BUT SHIINA EARNED IT. She works harder than me. She and Tenma deserve all of that stuff and more. I will start working harder and hopefully I can get it too.

Say what you want about her and all the /pcg/ shitposts about raids etc, but she seemingly works very hard.

>>40227005
There's really no point telling PCfags this, they're the same people who thought that their Gen 2 would retain debut numbers permanently and thought Pippa would become an overnight sensation because Ken Ashcorp made a song about her. 90% of them are newfags to the entire vtubing scene who have no idea how anything works.

>>40227005
Lumi being confused about pengiunz0, Moist Crit1kal, and Charlie White being the same person was funny.

>>40227315
she said that? this lia seems like she has a good head on her shoulders.
that's the right attitude to have.

>>40227587
>Pippa would become an overnight sensation because Ken Ashcorp made a song about her
god I wish we could go back to that time period and freeze Pippa in that moment.
Not that the song had anything to do with it, but that was the last time period she was kino Pippa.
>doing well with 400ccv
>making decent supas
>chat fast, but not too fast so she would know your name if you're a regular

>>40207207
Lisa curses too much. Ruins it for me.

>>40206749
>literally sobbing and saying they won the lottery because of the fan response
>couple years later
>you don't deserve my presence
A microcosm of rich people as a whole

>>40205228
just because one of them is inclining from leeching doesn't mean all of them are good Op.

loomers put out this video which actually makes me feel like I have a girlfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv9UyJpjYHE

Incline is incline. Pippa is big 3 level inclining it is insane, but it doesn't devalue what Phase Connect as a whole are doing.

they have 5 girls with momentum right now with Pippa, Tenma, Lumi, Lia and Shiina.

Lumi, Lia and Shiina all stream overlap with eachother and they still do well in spite of that.

>>40207207
Mix gen...males

>>40207207
lmao trainwreck company that has lost all of its big stars and people with potential
barely held on by tape
really lisa and ami could leave and join another company and the rest of tsunderia could just shut down

>>40207488
Pippa really is the spiritual successor to Metokur now huh..

>>40224799
she may just be the only one willing or able to accept the position. all the others have their own problems going on right now or may not want the pressure it brings

>>40205228
bot connect

>>40205228
apparently the shilling
I really hope you're at least being paid for this OP and not working for free

https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/image/b8kb443opLXWh2t42mOy4w/

>>40236629
>6 threads in 5 months
is this supposed to be damning?

>>40225456
Spoonfeed?

>>40236629
>called his shot in August
>it's now January
>all the best girls are inclining
>Phase is thriving
sound like he's a soothsayer and you should have listened

>>40232913
The only train there will be is when I jump onto the rails.

>>40238339
Trainwreck

>>40207207
Lisa and Amiya saved Tsunderia.

They, along with Purin, are the only poaches worth getting if Tsunderia ever falls apart. They were lucky that it didn't happen yet.

The fact that Tsun has males is probably why fishman didn't just buy them completely....he doesn't want males.

Are they really doing alright? They are mostly propped up by Pippa and they are already doing the put your MVs into youtube ads to boost the views on it now. If they lose Pippa, they'll collapse on themselves soon enough unless they find an immediate replacement.

>>40220713
Can I get some context on this, someone tried to Groom Shiina? How the fuck did they expect that to work out

>>40238562
If Pippa left tomorrow, why would that have any viewership effect on any of the other 14 girls?

Pippa's audience is her own + the girls get paid based on their own supas etc.

i tried this pippa person just now and she's annoying as fuck
is this how it always is, and if so, why are you all retarded?

>>40238509
Im still amazed the slug managed to find someone like Amiya.
Fuck, imagine her in any other company.

>>40238562
Pippa genuinely cares about phase connect so that's a meaningless hypothetical

>>40238666
be...because it just would, okay?

if Phase can swing Shondo, then they are asserting dominance as small agency king.

>>40238660
It was before shiina, as the wontons girl.

As we all know how that ended....

>>40238660
anytime someone criticizes shiina some white night will bring up this imaginary groomer, who knows

>>40210586
Lia has skyrocketed in popularity thanks to her model change, being allowed to be herself compared to before, and of course the unhinged topics like the deep dives and the CWC stream. As much as people hate it being brought up, she really does act like the pre-show for Pippa.

>>40232215
I wish they'd fix the overlap because it's annoying. I'd watch more if it wasn't for this. If only some would just stream earlier or later, at least it's not much of an issue for people like Panko.

>>40227315
To be fair it seems you need to have the free time to do the 3D stuff and Lia is way too busy with school. It's not a surprise they picked Shiina.

>>40217678
As much as people crap all over tangent fox, having another Pippa-like character would at least keep those kinds of fans at bay. Only concern I have is Kirsche would likely get clamped down by fishman. There's a lot of stuff she brings up that Pippa absolutely would not. Saying that, she would likely be staying on twitch so raids wouldn't be going on as much as you would think.

>>40238509
I wish fishman would just poach those 3.
It's not gonna happen, in part because they probably don't want to leave one small corpo for another small corpo and in part because it would kill tsunderia and it would draw a lot of controversy and hate so fishman is probably wise enough to not do it.
But still, I want them on phase connect.

>>40238673
Pippa has some really fun streams and some really awful streams.
Lately there have been more good than bad but tonight's was awful.

>>40205228
Unlike other corpos, Phase have effective management and for the most part have allowed their talent to do whatever WITHIN REASON. Not so much TALENT FREEDOM, but at the same time not as restrictive as hololive would be. Yes, fishman has done some dumb stuff lately but a lot of it has been pushed back by talent and their fans. See what happened to Tenma and the watchalongs, he U-turned on stopping them after fans got real mad at him about wanting to lessen the interaction.

>>40227005
Lumi wouldn't have stayed 4view. That model of her certainly has eyeballs rolling over the veibae similarities. When many phase viewers hate vshojo, not the right path to go. If they fixed up her face though, it'd be a lot better.

>>40217466
I would say a lot of them are likely burned out big company fans that wanted something else. I for one used to watch a lot of holos until I wanted a change of scenery and found Lia, and later the rest.

>>40217485
Idol seem alright but I don't like their excessive shilling plus they already lost two of the jewbas already. Phase do need to advertise more though. Fishman fucked up hard by not picking up Yuko Yurei (a Pippa Friend) when he had the chance though. That's why I have the feeling he might give in and bring in Kirsche to avoid a repeat of that.

>>40239076
>Only concern I have is Kirsche would likely get clamped down by fishman
Fair enough, the thought didn't cross my mind but it's obvious in hindsight. I'd feel bad for her, her content and her existing viewers, they'd feel the corpo restrictions.
>she would likely be staying on twitch so raids wouldn't be going on as much as you would think.
very good point, didn't think about it either and you're right she wouldn't be getting most of the raids
maybe hiring her is not really worth it after all

>>40239337
No surprise, as soon as I saw the thumbnail about it being reddit shit I wasn't interested. Watched Woozie instead. Certainly worth watching where she goes since she's in MyHoloTV and that company doesn't have a great reputation of keeping talent....Phase could do with a retro chuuba.

>>40239437
She still gets raids from Phase talent when they're on Twitch. Been happening a lot more lately. I don't think being mostly a twitch streamer is an issue when Yuri and Lumi are doing it, they could do with more of a balance going on. Like I said the only reasons to pick up Kirsche are 1) to stop losing more Pippa friends to other companies and 2) they could do with more talent for the "Pippa audience" rather than just her and Lia. Kirsche's streams way before either two of them.

>>40239347
Yuko is a top tier vtuber. She's cute, fun, knows how to interact on stream and keep it engaging and has a varied kit of skills and traits.
Fishman 100% fucked up not getting her before and he'll forever regret it.

idol lost 2 of their girls due to their own personal reasons. Emi left due to real life responsibilities, I'm not entirely clear on it and you could ask the idol thread if you want more specific details but it seems she's trying to work on her real life goals so it might be related to education or work.
Neo it seems has to travel overseas possibly to study and can't keep up with her vtuber activities.

Honestly I think both of them could remain active even while working or studying, plenty of vtubers do that, but I understand why that sort of lifestyle isn't for everyone.

Kirsche is a nice girl. I don't see what she brings to Phase Connect. She has no oil barons and has no audience that Phase doesn't already have. She doesn't have potential.

She is getting hired, tho. I have accepted it eventhough I think it will be fishman's biggest misfire since JP.

>>40239577
>they could do with more talent for the "Pippa audience" rather than just her and Lia. Kirsche's streams way before either two of them
Oh yeah, definitely. That alone would be an advantage. I have been watching her a lot lately because there's nobody else live. The woman streams a lot and she's active at hours nobody else streams.
I can tune in to her and go on a walk or workout and I know even if I take 1 or 2 hours or more she'll still be streaming so I can just tune in and not have to worry about having to change to anyone's channel.

>>40239703
pure nepotism hire to keep pippa happy.
there is no point in hiring her beyond those 2 things.

/pcg/ doesn't even want her hired. they hate kirschey as much as they hate flavr

>>40237341
I mean here's more

I even searched an image from a thread that's up right now and pretty much identical to this one >>40212602

Everyone shitting on kirche doesn't seem to understand her style is something people want to see
yuri's friend miia has been emulating kirche's schizo-ranting patterns even down to making the exact same jokes or rants kirche has done before, and its been pumping up her numbers.

>>40240287
so what is that
>10 threads in 5 months
that's wild shilling, bro. never seen anything like it before

>>40237341
>>40240287
>>40240347
here's more, it's endless really

>>40240329
no, people understand her style. it's not a complicated style.
she is pippa without the charm and all the things that make pippa great.

why settle for knock off pippa when they literally have pippa in the company already? does that makes sense? why buy flat store brand cola when the fridge is fully stocked with coke & pepsi.

>>40240329
Phase doesn't really need more schizo-ranting.
They already have that in spades.

What else do they offer?

lucked out with four decent EN talents who tried their hardest to ignore shitty management. if phase connect started with gen2 nobody would be talking about them.

>>40240875
>f phase connect started with gen2 nobody would be talking about them.
never thought of it like that. they'd be white noise and just another small corpo

>fish misses out on hiring a can't-miss girl in yuko
>panics and hires kirsche instead
my sides

>>40241006
Not like he will hire Sleepy as long as she is a 24/7 tarkov player.

>>40240329
Got some VODs for comparison?

>>40241006
History will repeat itself, but with friend of Lia's named Mino Mieko. She is gonna be somebody one day.

>>40241170
I am not so certain about Mieko. She said a few small corpos have tried to get her but she only will reincarnate for holo or niji.

Unless Lia pushes her to apply she won't do it even though she has a good chance of keeping the model.

Mieko is good but sooner or later someone will scoop her up and it will be another fishman regret. I fear she might end up as a jewba because of how generous they are.

i dropped pippa when she unironic ally defended react content. and the whole lonely femcel neet act is so fake.

>>40240437
no, she's kirsche
pippa is more aggressive and high energy and more prone to hot takes, she's also very cute and sweet, and very sentimental and emotional

I'm not a kirsche pro but I have been watching her a lot lately and she's way more stable, she can laugh like an idiot at shit and just not let it get to her, and even when she's angry it doesn't feel like she's really that angry

if you actually know pippa you have seen her get really worked up over shit, very angry or triggered or sad or happy, pippa is very emotional while kirsche feels more stable overall and nonchalant about stuff

also kirsche actually plays games quite often

"kirsche is just worse pippa" is a really stupid take, I know it makes sense from an extremely basic point of view
both do similar stuff=the same
pippa has more numbers=she's superior
so kirsche =inferior pippa
but they're very different streaming experiences that happen to have a some similarities

>>40241337
Also I misread your post, yeah for sure fishman will miss out on Mieko but I don't know who.

>>40241337
>she won't do it
well then there is nothing to even discuss about her desu.
as foolish as it might be, it seems to me that phase connect has girls who believe in the phase connect project, and not girls who look at it as a stepping stone or a pit stop.

>>40241149
don't even need vods, just watch old kirsh clips and then tune into any miia stream. she didn't start the schizo schtick until after kirsh started raiding her
even went in on the wax eating that the fox had been doing. they say imitation is a form of flattery I guess.

>>40205228
just pippa

>>40244413
Say that and you get Henri'd

>>40240413
>>40240287
>>40236629
We all now know that the relentless Phase shilling was in fact Henri all along, he admitted it in his farewell letter

>>40205228
Fucking up slightly less than the others.
They'll soon be dethroned by Idol Corp.
Can't beat the Jews at he media game.

>>40248097
the jew corpo is sketchy as fuck. i still remember the sus shit they pulled with the nintendo sponsorship. fucking liars

>>40224799
Shiina is the biggest of her gen. Shiina does not get more Pippa raids than Remi, Hime or Uruka.

>>40227587
Yeah, those idiots back then thought that Pippa would break out of being a low 3 view and now half a year later she hits 2k CCV more often than not.
They sure look stupid now.

>>40236629
/vt/ is not a tenth as important as you think it is.

>>40248097
>dethroned by Idol Corp.
IdolEN had a weirdly long debut buff, but they have settled in at around 300 ccv now, except for Yuko who is at 550.
So probably not.

>>40241337
Mieko is boring, she'll keep being an indie or join a bad small agency, if Hololive hires her I'm gonna fucking riot.

>>40237658
Just search her name in the archive and sort by older posts first, gentoo doesn't get much talk so you're going to find it pretty quickly.

>>40205228
Pippa, as much as I despise her, stands out pretty well. Tenma is nice too. And Lumi, for her MANY faults, and despite my feelings about her, also caters to certain niches well.

Ultimately, I suppose Fishman is "lucky" in a sense.

>>40254169
I suppose I should also mention they aren't lazy and they don't leave food and gifts to rot like Tsunderia did(literally), and making Urara do everything under the sun, nor do they make completely asinine decisions often like Prism used to.

>>40206593
>while she can be kind of exhausting/feel like a gimmick after a while, she's good in small doses really.
But enough about Lia

>>40217466
They sure act like them

>>40205228
Pippa stands out because of controversy and Tenma is a funny japanese loud woman, they're somewhat helping the others incline by showering them with raids.
The only two members who rarely get raided and are working hard to build their own audience are Panko (was 80CCV in August, she's now 200 CCV) and Erina (was high CCV at the beginning and declined but she's going back on track lately).

>>40248572
They look stupid for thinking it would happen because of a Ken Ashcorp song, yes

It sure isn't whiny ass archivefag that the stupid /pcg/ retards love when he's trying to direct pippa's content in exactly the way he wants. With the tantrum he threw the past week, he's just a faggot that should fucking shut up and go back to being the whiny shit scared of pinging the talents that he used to be.

>>40207790
I can really see them in PC! I hope this happens. Also I hope Mooms uses picrel as model and throws away her non-menhera facade.

>>40254222
Describing Tsunderia's CEO as simply lazy is severely understating it, he's negligent to a ridiculous extreme and it has actively damaged the company.

>>40250339
Kiara watching her might at least get cover to take a look. She has the talent if she can apply it well.

>>40212477
Unironically this.
People don't seem to realize that hololive hired people based on how successful they already were.
Everyone in holomyth was well known for a variety of different reasons. There were no poorfags in myth, just successful people who became more successful

>>40256409
You have a pretty low threshold for what counts as success. Mori and in particular Kiara had plenty of output but nothing much in terms of returns to show for it, and Amelia was just a bog standard twitch streamer with enough success to make a living but nothing more.

>>40255966
They'll take an extra look but discard her instantly, she's bad

>>40207790
Ok, not gonna lie, seeing Mumei take off the filter and be her full crazy self would be utterly kino. And a Fauna who openly drools over lolis would be great.
I doubt it would ever happen, but damn, that would actually be pretty great.

>>40227617
> this lia seems like she has a good head on her shoulders
This is fucking hilarious to read. Lia is one of the most unhinged talents in the company. However, she’s also very self-aware about it, which is why I love her streams. She legitimately makes menhera fun instead of annoying.

>>40205228
A lot of the girls are just overall solid streamers and that's all you really need outside something to draw people to the company

Pippa also clearly on track to become one of the most popular EN vtubers in the world is also another thing, ive been seeing normalfag streamers on twitch reacting to pippa clips lately, its probably what convinced merry to collab with her, he had no idea who she really was

>>40254886
Yeah I was being charitable.

>>40238810
>imaginary groomer
you should probably delete before someone posts the screenshot Spooki. I rarely watch her and even I know about you
nigger

This thread is laughable bullshit.

I was scouted/hired to work for phaseconnect to help them manage their talents videos and content.

The truth is they just mad fucking penny pinch. I told them my prices (which are incredibly cheap for a freelancer) and they just flat out told me
"We can find people in the fandom to do it for much less sooo...."

They are nothing but cheap discount hololive/vshojo

>>40264491
no wonder gentoo sucks so hard, they're the cheapest bunch fishman could get

>>40264491
when tho?

>>40264491
The only small vtubing corpo that has any real money is Idol Corp and it shows. I’m convinced that they’re not any more penny pinching than any other small corpo. I’m sorry if this story is true, but it doesn’t appear to me like they’re penny pinching any more than any other corpo in this scene.

>>40264491
>The truth is they just mad fucking penny pinch
>We can find people in the fandom to do it for much less sooo....
Explains why manager larpers like smug and controlling social justice cunts like xalamon got so far

>>40264491
When was this?
Timelines have seemingly shifted even from September.

>>40264491
>They are nothing but cheap discount hololive/vshojo
you had me until this point. why do you seethe, anti?

>>40264491
You tried this larp last January.

>>40239347
Didnt lumi have over 1k for a week straight? Shes had one stream since the subathon ended where she talked for an hour and played a game for 20 minutes than ended cuz she was sick. Which had like 670 viewers when I popped in. Dont think anyone can really say where shes gonna sit post model change yet.

>>40265447
Happy for her. Wish I could keep watching.

>>40265447
>>40265515
you tell me

>>40265447
Lumigumi always cling to the "max viewer" and never the average.
They have been gaslighting people saying she has been 4view since August eventhough it's not even close.

I expect her new average to be 600-700 tops which is still great, but last night was not encouraging.

>>40265600
damn she kept 700-800 avg most days even through her sleeping everynight. I am impressed.

>>40269969
yeah she would drop down to low 3 view each night when she was asleep. So the avg on that is scuffed af. She was over 1k the entire time she was streaming. Not a good look having the first stream shes back after it being 500 though.

>>40257793
I wish this would happen desu. They've always felt like they hold back far too much, due to Holo restrictiveness.

>>40264420
i don't know who spooki is weirdo, shiina is still a dogshit streamer

>>40270046
>>40269969
>impresive
it's unironically bots.

pcg was laughing their ass off at it the whole subathon

>>40269969
>she kept 700-800 avg most days even through her sleeping everynight
Nothing suspicious at all about that. Nothing at all.