/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>40171140
Time to go back to anime

>>40171140
Very.
I'm glad I managed to free myself from HoloPro and found lots of small corps in time.

>>40171140
I don't care about Yagoo trying to get money through new audiences, what I don't like is how he does it all under the Hololive banner. It just feels gross how he's willing to throw away everything that was built up over years to potentially replace it with something new.

It will be 1 guy, we have known for a while that he was coming. Kys unicorn.

>>40172391
Back to JP

>>40174464
No subtitles so i can't

>>40171140
KILL EM ALL YAGOOOOOOOO

>>40171140
Yeah, Tempus is actually fun to watch. Female streamers were an experiment but when it comes right down to it only males are capable of being entertaining.

>>40171140
Laughing Cruise edits will never not be funny to me.

>>40174789
this is bait but you're right. If starsEN2 has a femboy in it Yagoo will make a billion dollars

>>40171140
nobody wanted a holostars EN

>>40171140
Hope it's not a new stars EN gen. Too soon, let the boys breath. A vsinger would be alright I guess, but I hope it's something like live 2d mascots or something.
>>40173173
hololive productions has had everything from hololive, stars, and that weird music division that azki was in for years anon. You're just getting salty their useing the main hololive productions twitter which is meant to be for EVERYTHING. That's why they include the boys in everything. Personally I like unity, even if I don't watch specific chuubas, seems autistic as fuck to flip shit if their included in posters or images.

>>40175024
Yes, fags and outsiders wanted it to spit in the eye of "idol" culture despite misinterpreting it was up to the talents to collab with dudes.

>>40171140
Why would it be new homos when they specifically use Tempus as marketing?

Literally everyone were magging a whole month since Tempus debut then suddenly people hate them now, what the fuck is this shit?

>>40175053
My problem is not with unity in the sense of lumping Holostars JP with Hololive, my problem is with unity in the sense of lumping together things that have entirely different audiences and goals in mind. Because then it just becomes corporate worship where you are uniting everything under a company rather than everything that is part of a similar style or family. Yagoo has said himself Tempus are intended for a different audience than StarsJP, they are gamerbros meant to appeal to males and could not give less of a fuck about the idol stuff. Constantly adding more and more people (including in ID/EN) who have no interest in the core Hololive stuff just causes further disunity when you try to pretend they all are interested in the same audience.

>>40175463
those were homofans obviously

I'm glad they are giving us more males, now the remaining unicucks will finally die

>>40175779
No unicorn ever left JP for the dumpster fire that was EN. You are fighting a boogeyman that never existed.

>>40172545
>it's been 10 years since the chuuni show
>Shitka is like 26 now
Brothers, I have aged.

>>40175024
I didn't particularly want them but I was pleasantly surprised, Cover was surprised by them being solid 4views too. 5ch losing their minds when Vesper beat Miko on an overlap guaranteed new HomoENs for the next 10 years

>>40175779
Until the shield breaks they will always be alive

>>40175024
>>40175200
>the strongest member was the one who collabed with the girls the least and called himself an idol who wanted to stand on his own content
>gets suspended
I genuinely don't understand the angle they're going for. A bunch of males who get 1-2k CCV don't seem like a benefit if you're going to hammer down any nail that sticks out. It's just so strange.

>>40171140

>>40175463
>why are people mad that Tempus 2 is debuting 4 more men before HoloEN3 debuts
Gee I wonder. Faggot.

>>40175896
To put it in the simplest possible way: their management is incompetent and they have no direction at all.

>>40175896
Vesper got suspended for bitching out a manager (for fucking up his XCom stream twice) while not being japanese, like it shouldn't have happened but it's not a solid case of them trying to beat him into conformity or whatever.

>>40175858
Gura: dead
Kiara: responded to Tempus on twitter
Mumei: Collabed with the guys
Fauna: Commentated on the holostars new year performance along with mumei
Irys: Had a discord chat from a male on stream

>>40175463
That's because Tempus seemed fine but then it turned out they were a malignant cancer and Holo EN still hasn't recovered from the damage they did.

>>40176153
Don't forget Kiara tried to get in on Axel's cover but her manager was too slow to get a spot, she's legitimately not "anti-male" or "off-limits" the way the others are, there's just a mutual understanding that they have no reason to collab.

>>40176153
Correction
Gura: Dead but unicorn safe, always.
Kiara: Twitter mentions are not collabs or interactions.
Mumei: Collabed with stars once then never again after the fanbase felt betrayed.
Fauna: Making shit up
IRyS: That was her rigger

>>40171140
Hell yeah. Just so long as they are more great talents like tempus.

>>40175941
HololiveEN has 10 girls, pushing more boys out first to balance the numbers out makes sense. YAGOO is trying to make this work, if Stars doesn't have around the same people as Hololive then they'll stay as a forgettable side branch, like StarsJP

>>40175779
>only supporting the males just to "epicly own le ebil unicornz"
Kill yourself, this is why Tempus keeps getting so much fucking hate. Some of us like to actually watch them because they're entertaining. I don't care about the collabs with females I watch them for them. I fucking hate no life having faggots like you.

>>40176153
So there no unicorn anymore, only retarded homobeggar cancer exist, glad to know.

>>40176405
There's no reason to balance the numbers out. The entire Vtubing industry has more female tubers than male. And that's fine. That doesn't mean that tempus isn't profitable. But the idea that StarsEN would have broader appeal if they rushed out a second branch after the first isn't really true. Just look at how Noctyx did. Yagoo is too smart to dilute what success Tempus has had by rushing out a second branch. This is going to be something to bolster Tempus as a group

>>40176671
>Tenpus as a group
Considering there was a rrat a while back that since Tempus is considered a guild, there won't be new gens as other guilds, or villains, etc.
They'll just expand the Tempus guild, and newer gens / starsEN recruits will be "new guildmates". Thus Tempus will never die or be replaced as a concept. The guild will just get bigger.

>>40171140
"EN women were a mistake, it is in EN Men that we must place our trust in now" - Yagoo, 2023 -1

>>40176671
It's really dumb to use Noctyx as a comparison when they debuted 3 months after Luxiem while it's been 6 months since Tempus debuted. They both get the same amount of viewers by the way.

>>40176988
half of them unironically were

>>40176988
Unironically true even if you like the girls

>>40177099
I still have no fucking clue how NijiEN got so many good eggs, and the one and only schizo was Yugo, a "male"

Like, is Kronii a lame duck that just landed on Holo's side out of misfortune? Was Sana going to be an asset over liability because something's different Niji way?

>>40177173
If Holo accepted faster, we'd have our version of Meloco who worships and gushes over Fubuki instead of the Niji version that gushed over Luca.
If holo accepted faster, there may not have been a stinky gyaru, but there could have been a stinky nip-eigo streamer in Holo that could get away with saying retard.

>>40176910
It doesn't sound too far-fetched actually. Tempus being one huge gen is easier to make lore around everyone and it also helps promoting unity.

>>40177231
>get away with saying retard
Meanwhile, Bae puts out an apology stream for saying "bitch" to IRyS (as in "bye Bitch")
If anything, She'd do an apology THEN get a 3 day suspension sales still active

>>40174413
>Friend(s)
Plural dumb dumb

>>40175858
That shield has a crack in it...

>>40175463

>>40176155
>then it turned out they were a malignant cancer
Let me guess it's because they aren't "honiburu rike grorious horosutazz JP", right?

>>40175840
>Vesper beat Miko on an overlap
really?

>>40179846
Glad you understand it yes

>>40179958
Ah yes I believe you big Holostars JP fan who watches every Miyabi stream, Tempus went TROO FAR

>>40176153
You forgot Fauna welcoming Tempus to the Hololive family

>>40171140
if true, that's what I get for resting on my laurels. If it is a shota 2-3view, I'll kill myself.

Yagoo killing me before i kill myself

>>40179958
Except..StarsJP is barely any different to StarsEN.
StarsJP also have no qualms with interacting with the Hololive girls who are okay with them ie: Astel Kobo (appeared unannounced), FBK / Matsuri with Aruran / Roberu (on their game shows), Oga and Risu (appeared on her 3D).
They also do a lot of collabs with Japanese indies and small corpos, who are at best, the the JP equivalent of the terrible, no good """twitch whores""" and at worse, worse than twitch whores, that the Tempus guys have collabed with.
There's even a recurring joke that an entire all female JP small corpo is Roberu's harem.
But go off, queen. Tell me how StarsJP is sooooo much better than StarsEN.

>>40175534
>Yagoo has said himself Tempus are intended for a different audience than StarsJP

That's not what he fucking said. He said he wanted a group to show off the bonds of brotherhood "that could appeal to males AS WELL AS females." Tempus are still Holostars, and they're still under Cover. They're going to sing and dance on stage one day just like every other member in the company.

>>40176153
>Kiara: responded to Tempus on twitter
is that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? are you looking for trace amounts of contact with guys to shit on the talent?
i'm anti homocollab myself but at some point it gets unreasonable.

>>40180245
>Tell me how StarsJP is sooooo much better than StarsEN
they are japanese

didn't they just put out a "hey guys remember you can audition for stars EN please audition guys we haven't found enough decent applicants for a release yet please" a couple weeks ago? there's no way they've finalised anyone who's auditioned in that time. either that was secretly a preemptive stars en 3 audition call or this is not stars en 2 coming up

>>40180317
Gomenasai for your brain damagaru, ken-sama

>>40180317
That excuse doesn't work for Laplus who is japanese but is a whore like Mori. So why would it work for StarsJP?
Next?

>>40176296
>goalpost moving

>>40177461
did she put out an apology for that?

>>40180245
Even something as good as StarsJP can have its Moris, in this case Roberu.

>>40180303
Keep telling yourself that.

>>40180879
No, she said in Australia it's a compliment which is some of the absolute dumbest shit I've ever heard. Nobody was mad at her so why she had to make up a lie about it I'm not sure. I'm not sure why her and Irys are airing out their grievances about each other to chat rather than just doing it behind-the-scenes. She didn't say bitch, she said bye bitch in the exact way as the meme which does not come from Australia and Irys didn't seem to take it as a compliment.

>>40176231
Thats not what happened. The next stream after that cover got released, Axel said that when he tried to gather people for the project, he discovered that Ina already had plans to do it. So, the timeline of what happened was prolly:

>Ina started the project
>Invited Kiara
>Went on break
>Axel resumed the project
>Gave the main role to Ina, since she was the first
>Ina prolly never mentioned Kiara to Axel
>Cover gets released
>Kiara got confused, thinking it was Ina's project, when it was Axel who did it.

"Her manager was too slow to get a spot" makes absolutely no sense.

>>40175024

>>40175534
this + it feels like they're sacrificing the much bigger more successful hololive EN for the sake of pushing more homos. If they don't want the audience that they built with Myth/Councilrys we don't have to fucking stay here and put up with it. There are other options now, plenty of them.

>>40180319
a theory i see floting around is that its the 5th member of tempus that was missing so far

>>40181119
Tbh Ina probably mentioned to Kiara that she wanted to do it but never actually started the get the ball rolling.

>>40176153
>keeps track of this weird shit
schizo

>>40181563
its me, i havent been botghered auditioning yet

>>40181163
Omega I told you many times, the sounds your ass makes when you're taking a shit do not count as people

>>40182268
By "voice has been heard" he meant the voices in his head.

>>40171140
>Fagoo OP
>Unironically hype for EN homos
What a massive faggot you are

>>40171140
A thread died for this shit?

>>40182460
pretty sure it's sarcasm but whatever. our faith in Yagoo was in that he intuitively knew what he was doing. people are fallible however, look at elon musk etc.

>>40182549
Yagoo has always been the biggest pusher of Homostars in the company.
He never lost his way; he was always like this.

>>40182647
letting the girl gens die in favor of 2 homo ones in a row however is an abject blindness to reality however. assuming that's unironically what he'll do. holoJP had like 4 gens out by the same point EN had 2.

I guess there’s more potential for outside collabs like holosanji ans holoshojo now

>>40171140
It's likely just a project that the boys are dropping. You know, a project, the result of hard work.

>announcement video is Tempiss themed
>"it's a new gen!"
Couldn't it be a new member or a group song?

Very excited. The magic in the main EN branch is dead, so I appreciate the homos and their unity.

>>40182738
>holoJP had like 4 gens out by the same point EN had 2
Actually more. JP had 28 members (29 is you're going to count Hitomi Christ) in total in 28 months (Gens 0,1, 2, 3, 4 and Gamers) compared to EN's 10 (or 11 with Sana). EN shouldn't really have the same number but if Cover was smart and the EN staff had people who actually want to see the branch grow by this point we should've been either waiting for EN4 or already had it at the end of 2022, but it's now possible that we won't even have a Hololive EN3 this year.

ACCELERATE

>>40183157
youd think with the pandemic people woulb be begging to work with streaming

>>40183120
The "new friends" bit is what stirred up the rrat nest. Given how trends have been going however it feels very-possible it's a new member or new gen because we've simply stopped expecting Cover/EN management to act rationally at this point.

>>40183331
The thing is Cover slowed down hard on everyone with the lockdown shit. JP, JP Stars, ID and EN were all slowed drastically by that process though it's also just reasonable that Cover sees themselves as at full capacity.

>>40171140
Whatever bullshit they're peddling now I don't want it. But I am not watching it either and I stopped watching Hololive once Tempus appeared and it was all destroyed. I only adhere to Gura, but she's out of the picture. I made a full switch to Phase, Idol and a handful of indies and that's where actual fun things are happening. HoloEN and the rest of Hololive is just a dinosaur and these desperate moves are just the twitches of something that's already extinct. I swear that the way all of this happened has made me despise the Japanese as well.

Tempus killed HoloEN. The rest is just an obituary and a cautionary tale to all indies, small corpos, startups etc.

>>40183570
Didn't they hire several hundred new staff the past year? You're telling me all of those guys were for making the textures on Kanata's buttcrack in HoloEarth and getting more taco bell and cup noodle tie-in ads? Even if 90% of the hires were for indirect stuff not from the streams it sounds like they ought to have enough manpower to make at least a gen a year.

>>40176405
>more boys out first to balance the numbers
THERE SHOULD BE NO MALES AT ALL

>>40183570
>sees themselves as at full capacity
Not enough to possibly debut a new StarsEN gen faster than they did more HoloEN members. And here's the thing, even if this year they release a new gen for every single branch (HoloJP, ID, EN, StarsJP, EN) they still wouldn't reach 100 members, and with the amount of employees they hired as >>40183633 mentioned it's pure incompetence if they feel like they reached a critical mass of talents but would still push for a new gen of mildly popular branch when they would get better results by just debuting new girls wherever.

>>40183616
loling so hard

>>40183120
>>40176910

>>40171140
They announcing graduations?

>>40184157
nobody gives a shit about lore

>>40184237
>Says it can't be true because of "Tempiss"
>Gives reasonable explanation about how it can be true
>suddenly, nobody gives a shit about lore
Uh huh, let me know how this all pans out if the rrat holds true and it's a new gen thrown in as "new guildmates".

>>40184237
EN management seems to give a shit however because they either are pushing shit thinking they're still the kingmakers or they're listening to some fucking retarded market research that has absolutely no clue what it's doing.

>>40176405
Balance why? They want to lose audience in general?

>>40184922
Everything makes sense if you realize EN management is treating HoloEN and vtubing like its fucking capeshit.

>>40180245
None of them ever had their collab bans shortened so they could collab with Hololive members. Even Uproar took almost 2 whole months before collabing with the ID girls and they still played with males from other agencies before that. Stop acting like they're the exact same thing when the last time the collab ban period wasn't 4-weeks long for a full gen (IRyS obviously not included here) was for Holox, but they had the excuse of debuting close to the holidays and Cover wanted them to participate in the end of the year streams, while Tempus had literally nothing going for them on that area but still got preferential treatment due to "muh popular demand".

>>40185595
The most disgusting part of Tempus was their collab ban with HoloEN was lifted but their collab ban with StarsJP was still in effect until the normal time limit.

>>40172391
Finally, CGDCTFAGs are going to where they should have stayed in the first place. Now if only we could get rid of unicorns just as easily

>>40181210
They aren't sacrificing jack shit you dumbass. Hololive still exists and is continuing as usual. If (You) faggots honestly believe cover is investing more money in holostars than hololive, or is somehow replacing the girls with the boys, you're all more deluded than I thought. The audiences may be different but they can still exist separately, with some overlapping audience

>>40185935
According to Shinove the JP side had absolutely no idea about Tempus or StarsEN as a whole and also weren't informed about the collab ban being lifted earlier. It's like Cover and the EN staff wanted to push them as part of HoloEN first and foremost instead of them being Holostars.

>>40186358
Where's EN3 then. Put up or shut up.

>>40186427
My rrat is that Cover doesn't even want to bother with actual Western fans of CGDCT. Or any Western fans for that matter. Tempus was created for the Chinese fujoshi audience, and is an attempt by Cover to enter the Chinese market through the backdoor due to the whole Coco thing. The fact they speak English (obviously) makes them more desirable and exotic to the Chinese fujo audience.

Yes, I'm saying that Cover is intentionally sacrificing and neglecting the actual EN market, and may even be intentionally destroying it, for the gigantic Chinese market. HoloEN is the sacrificial lamb. China was always the goal, and they betrayed us for that. Myth and Council are utterly irrelevant to Cover, the goal was merely to provide plausible deniability and a kind of cultural background/smokescreen for Tempus to appear "authentically Western."

Yagoo sold our asses to China.

>>40187251
I think you went too far off the rails and need to take your meds, especially when Tempus isn't doing much to attract that audience. Even before Luxiem got their bilibili accounts they (namely Vox) already had a big contingent of Chinese fans using VPN to access youtube, while I'm not seeing the same with Tempus, or at least those fans are hiding very well. Tho if in a near future we see Cover trying to go back into bilibili's good graces, which I still find it impossible to ever happen, I'll remember your schizo ramblings as a prophecy.

>>40186730
The inexistence of a new EN gen for (You) to also bitch about is not proof of holostar favoritism. Holostars' existence poses no danger to the Hololive branch. Stop being a bored schizo

>>40187738
>they're notably ignoring the girls in favor of boys lately
>you're just a schizo though!!!!!!
nah. go suck the boys' dicks and stop pretending there's nothing amiss here.

>>40176478
Actual unicorns were never interested in Fauna or Mumei.

>>40185935
wasn't this always the case even with the girls? Council got to collab with Myth 2 weeks after their debut, then it took another two weeks for them to collab with the other branches.

>>40171140
The more males the more unicorn incels disappear from the fanbase, making it tolerable again.

>>40171140
I thought this was a shitpost. How the FUCK are they releasing more of these fags no one watches? It hasn't even been a year. And the uproar bitches get 3d, multiple costumes in less than a year whle almost being 2view. Insanity.

>>40188170
No, it has always been 4 weeks for every single gen. Before Tempus the only gen who had their ban completely lifted early was Holox due to the aforementioned Holiday reasons. ID3 had a big Minecraft collab around 2 week after debut when their senpai showed the server, but the ban was temporally lifted for only that occasion and after those streams they went back to normal for the remaining 2 weeks. IRyS was also a weird case for being a single debut and got hers shortened to 2 weeks, but if we're solely talking about full gens to this day Tempus and Holox are the only ones that got this treatment.

>>40186207
>>40188273
YWNBAW

isn't it just NY outfits? Holo doesn't release gens so quickly.

>>40188712
It's "new friends". They are using the niji acceleration tactic. Of course more boys no one wants means more numbers.

>>40188712
Doubtful. The way it's presented "new friends" makes it look like new people are coming.
But in reality it's likely some stupid shit like mascots.

>>40188834
they don't even do that with Holosta or ID so It's doubtful they'll start now.

>>40171140
unironically, yes
women from holoEN either failed me or won't stream, so starsEN are only hope and future for this slowly dying hobby

>>40188838
on one hand, mascots does seem a plausible option
on the other hand why the fuck would management make a whole announcement tweet hyping up for fucking mascots when the boys could have just announced it themselves

>>40189556
Because Tempus is currently EN staff's favorite child.

>>40189863
probably because they actually stream

>>40171140
Eh, I've pretty much stopped caring about holoEN since tempiss debuted. I won't shill them here, but there are a couple of small corpos that do a far better job of being hololive but in English than holoEN does nowadays.

>>40189556
this is the same branch that overhyped HoloEN haloween much to dismay of fauna and mumei, so yeah.

>>40189556
It's happened before with EN1 mascot plushies, the announcement was even bigger then. I may be wrong but they did a whole group collab for that which by then was a rare thing. I couldn't be bothered to even check. Maybe there's more stuff than just plushies, who knows, but it's not new members or even outfits.

>>40190349
I wanna buy and burn those plushie

>>40171140
Dont do this

>>40180899
QRD on Roberu? Is he really male Mori?
I know that he has eating and sleep issues, never really considered him on same tier as pink woman.

>>40189556
I mean they changed their twitter and reddit header and had mysterious teases for days for Fauna's halloween fanfic.

>>40175463
It was mostly because of the memes, this place will never be fully okay with Stars

>>40188439
no one gives a fuck faggot

>>40175024
>nobody
>100k subs
try again

>>40194822
>this place will never be fully okay with Stars

I don't think you cunts realize that if Tempus has their new kouhais the girls will stop bothering to collaborate with them. (except Morons) Are you all braindead idiots?

>>40195204
DYRBI?

>>40195204
It's omega's grand plan, even without the participation of pro unicorn girls en would have the new tempus members, en3 and stars2. omegas holoen would now have enough members for big multiplayer streams like mario kart, among us, 3d vr crap, etc.

>>40195204
They`ll have another round of "collabs from heavy public demand " and will be even worse than the first time.

>>40176910
Ina did briefly talk about getting isekaid and reincarnated into the Tempus guild. In retrospect holoEN might have known for a while that Tempus would eventually get new members.

>>40175024
I like Magni

>>40171140
I actually enjoy Vesper's content and Magni's commission streams so yeah I guess

>>40175840
that's bullshit corporate speak and you know it... yagoo would never say publicly if he was disappointed with the viewership with holostars but everything else screams that he is... hence why he shoehorns them into literally everything to try promoting them... if anything it's far more likely he wanted them to be as successful as luxium and is just telling people he's cool with their viewership because of fucking course he is...

>>40175024
It's only you and few others, seanigger.
Jokes on you, I actually like Axel with Noir and their weirdness.

>>40176153
stop with the mumei hate already... the whole point of hating on them is to get them to stop... once they stop doing the homo collabs you're supposed to stop the hate... otherwise what reason do the girls have to stop doing the collabs once they start? mumei did one big group collab with 2 jp stars members (she doesn't even speak the same language as them) 9 months ago... and then she saw that the fans disliked it and she stopped... so just forgive her already... if you don't forgive the girls eventually then they have no reason to stop doing the collabs cause the hate will persist regardless

>>40206192
>believe my schizo ramblings because… trust me!

>>40194968
The homobegging troon calling other people faggots? Ironic. Go bounce on a cactus dildo while jerking your “girl”cock to Vox

>>40206403
there's nothing schizo about it... it takes 2 seconds of thought... literally anybody with half a brain can look at tempus having 1/10th the viewership of their female counterparts as an objective commercial flop... the cope from you guys is insane...

>>40206396
They will never understand anon. I’m convinced everyone that actually hates on Mumei is a jealous femcel at this point.
She’s pretty much perfect

>>40206396
the mumei collab, twitter interactions etc. is not something reasonable people use as an argument.
it's all anons looking for breadcrumbs to use as ammo just because

>>40174636
rip civia

Guys, I have new info on the new Homostar
Its going to be DemoD

>>40176119
Wait is THAT what happened to the Xcom playthrough?

>There's a new gen
>There are two girls in it

I hope hamburger hat guy finally gets to debut

>>40206962
>Its going to be
He isn't that type of guy. He doesn't even have a patreon

>>40207088
Unless it's a "girl" like yugo ir Tamaki that won't happen

>>40171140
As things currently stand for Tempus:

>First generation for the launch of a new EN branch from Cover Corp.
>After 5 months, they have a combined 779k subs
>A combined average ccv of 9,000
>A combined superchat earnings of $267,000
>A complete standstill in growth
>Completely exhausted all the collabs from willing HoloEN girls to try and funnel viewers.

For reference, here is 'total flop' ILUNA up against 'huge success and perfect Brotubers' Tempus.

>6th Generation of an existing branch, becoming members 21-26.
>After 5 months, they have a combined 2m subs.
>A combined average ccv of 8.1k
>A combined superchat earnings of $341,000
>Low growth
>Some members very rarely interact even with their own branch and never with other branches. They keep to themselves without disturbing others.
>Has more merch to sell (Ren and Scarle recently got winter scarves)

So depending on what you're looking at, to a business, Tempus - the big debut launch of Holomales in the West, handpicked by the scouting gods of VTubing - performed worse than NijiEN's worst-performing wave to date.

Does this mean they failed? No. Tempus still perform well enough to do full-time, and they've probably already made back the costs to give them their shitty unfinished mid-2000's Studio DEEN anime models. It does mean that future generations have basically fucking nothing to work with and are fated to turn their senpai to 3-views so they too can be 3-views.

>>40175024
fuck you M16 traitor

>>40171140
A reminder that if you are genuinely excited for this you are a leech and once everyone thats not a leech fucks off the company will most likely die from lack of support I've unsubed from every HoloEN and the majority of the JPs I follow

>>40195080
>100k subs
How many of them are dead subs

>>40206396
Twitterites don't know how or when to forgive. Once someone has done something bad, they are labeled evil for life. It's why cancel culture exists.

>>40207267
Yugo was robbed, maybe they're hiring her

>>40183616
Based. I feel exactly the same way brother.

If that is what it takes for myth to graduate and stream on their previous or new accounts, then yes.
They don't need the yoke of this sorry excuse of a company anymore.

>>40207961
Yugo was mentally ill piece of shit. She got what she deserved.

>>40195080
Regis and Magni are fighting to hit 2k outside buff content while Axel is fighting to hit 1k. The core tempus audience is small and another group will worsen their numbers. People there for the girls aren't watching homos no matter how many collabs are spammed.

>>40208420
As long as they stay over 500 ccv, they're in the top 1% of streamers overall, period.
If Yagoo gave a single fuck about ccv, he would have booted jp stars and anya a long time ago.

>>40208712
the impotent cry of the /#/igger and his inability to follow the money
hololive needs males to survive

>>40208801
I'm just saying,. you're still valuable with 500 ccv.
Let's not forget the SC statistics that got released showed all of Tempus (minus Axel) in the top 50. And most of their merch selling out.
I'm sure there will be more cope and whining on why le ebin males need to be fired but right now they're doing perfectly fine.

>>40208801
>hololive needs males to survive
You're as delusional as the /#/iggers.

>>40175463
All the bad shit prophesized to happen following the holostarsEN announcement never really happened until the Kronii collab.

>>40208861
Tempiss could be top 50 without pissing off their unicorn base but women just need to hurt weak males at any given opportunity. It's about power

>>40171140
I hope that they end up making friends with all generations

>>40208801
>hololive needs males to survive
LMAO. That's like claiming NBA needs WNBA to survive.

>>40206396
Owlkeks are the funniest posters in this board
>HER HYMEN GREW BACK GUYS, SHE'S THE BETTER GURA

>>40175024
What about those 37 loud guys on Reddit though?

>>40212493
Still more than the 35 loud ones on /vt/

>>40208801
fuck off homobeggar, fuck your collabs and fuck you

>>40212891
And yet an EN girl can get 10k+ whereas the EN stars are already battling to stay out of the triple digit zone
You can cope all you want but the numbers don't lie: Even in the west holo fans aren't terribly interested in male talents.

>>40171140
>New male group
>Tempus has more people to collab with
>Even less collabs with the girls now that they're all playing in their own corner
How is this a bad thing?

>>40213320
Don't ask /vt/ to be realistic and reasonable.

>>40186207
yass queen

>>40213320
>>40213447
>Assuming it won't just spark more faggot collabs
Dyrbi?

>>40213522
/vt/ eop unicorn meltdowns are peak entertainment so I don't mind at all

>>40213320
That's what you said when Tempus came out, they would collab with the JP stars and wouldn't do the girls. look at what happened.

>>40214251
>He seriously thought EOP's would regularly collab with JP's
You're retarded if you expected that.

>>40175463
What is astroturfing. They were never fans, since they didn't stick around.

>>40213320
nooooo yagoo will go bankrupt and we'll never hear from our oshis again

>>40175463
>baby's first internet marketing strategy

>>40214313
That's what you faggots claimed, "stars aren't Niji" turns out they are even worse than Niji, they are 4x Mori.

>>40213320
>Mattpat joins homostars 2
Chumbuds I'm not feeling too good

>>40171140
yes. I like vesper alot and hope he gets another autismo to hangout with

>>40175840
They aren't solid 4 views, only Vesper is so far.

>>40214328
It was so fucking obvious too. This place hated males since its inception, then suddenly everyone loves them? Then there was the monkey spamming shit at anyone that questioned them, it was the least natural shift in opinion ever.

>>40213320
That's best case scenario, but I don't believe it.

>>40175024
99% of true hololive fans do, you're a loud minority.

>>40214313
We didn't think Cover would be stupid enough to hire only one JP speaker.

>>40214619
Ah that's why the whole EN side is crashing to 0.
They only want "true hololive fans"

>>40214611
Oh great, now there's a new caste of Hololive fans. Would you like to tell me their numbers then, because it must be a very small percentage of the overall audience considering the average viewers for both StarsJP and EN.

>>40213320
That's likely what management is thinking. They stopped/limited the coed collabs after the backlash they got, and are now rushing to release a 2nd StarsEN gen to not leave them alone. Only problem with that is the girls have been in need of new members for a while and this will probably delay their 3rd gen ever further.

>>40214783
if EN3 getting delayed means less tempiss collabs then so be it desu.

>>40214882
If a tempus collab happens in the forest but there are no viewers left to watch it, does anyone really care if it happens or not?

>>40175858
Remove Irys