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So if Moona's brothers get in to stars EN 2, how will that damage them if people know? They'll obviously be treated as Nepo hires right out the gate. Any collabs they do with her probably wont get as much hate on a certain level but they'll still be hated for leeching their sister. I just don't think it's a good idea for her to let people know they auditioned, best to just pretend they're strangers or perhaps just people that know one another. I can only see it giving them an even worse image than they'll already have as stars.
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>>40083843Yeah still #1 since yesterday>>40083902Haachama just needs to get her shit together and finish college
>>40083901The streams for the 30th for Niji EN were:1. Mysta Minecraft2. Fungus playing a VN3. Gyaru girl Ark4. Ren with a stream called "Whatever"5. Reimu and Astel Apex6. Nina playing some Factorio ripoff7. Rosemi Pokemon8. Derpio playing some random kusoge9. Kyo birthday10. Hex 150k subs celebration11. Ver "Radio Stream"12. Scarle zatsu13. Gyaru girl zatsu14. Maria music afterparty15. Meloco watchalong16. Alban Ark17. Covid zatsu18. Gyaru girl 3rd stream of the day (horror game)18 streams, 1.5 watchable with Rosemi and depending on your tolerance of Nina. That's barely better than nothing. I wasted my time writing that, fuck you if you wanna whine about crossposting.
>>40083902right? never imagined I'd see the day
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *>142,855: Hololive (Hololive)>72,970: Pekora (Hololive)>71,063: Subaru (Hololive)>62,578: Fuwa (Nijisanji)>43,812: Korone (Hololive)>41,756: Koyori (Hololive)>34,308: Mio (Hololive)>25,726: Fubuki (Hololive)>24,219: Lamy (Hololive)>22,435: Chloe (Hololive)>19,833: Chloe (Hololive)>19,361: Noel (Hololive)>19,255: Ame (Hololive)>18,114: Iroha (Hololive)>17,738: Miko (Hololive)>17,635: Koyori (Hololive)>17,345: Noah (VSPO)>16,795: Lui (Hololive)>16,155: Fauna (Hololive)>15,333: Chloe (Hololive)>14,669: NeruMero (Indie)>14,591: Belmond (Nijisanji)>14,550: Kanata (Hololive)>13,723: Salome (Nijisanji)>13,721: Watame (Hololive)>13,643: Tamaki (NoriPro)>13,632: Shion (Hololive)>12,617: Koyori (Hololive)>11,268: Met (774 inc)>11,266: Nene (Hololive)>10,655: Kanae (Nijisanji)>10,197: Flare (Hololive)
December councilrys mediansFauna 8,800Kronii 7,561IRyS 7,370Bae 6,987Mumei 6,744uhhh hookeks i need answers
>>40084185>>40084210Maybe it's a sign of her being welcomed back to the holobox
Kaela makes way more money than the other two, because she doesn't collab with males.
Tell me about Mumei.Why does she make schizos seethe so much?
>>40084164>So if Moona's brothers get in to stars EN 2I think you skipped an entire conversation here.
>>40084255
>>40084255That Niji guy only got 62k? Did they waste all the bots for Day 1?
what happened
>>40084345Unironic mental illness.
>>40084345it's homobeggars being mad she switched sides
>>40084303haachama's problem with the box was never a haachama problem, it's always been a haachama CH problem more often than not.she is favored in collabs outside of her channel, and contrary to some belief she is just as loved by the nips as she is by the eopsand the biggest proof of that is her channel's growth over the year
>>40084355>>40084255
>>40084345maybe here she has 1 or 2 dedicated schizos, but it's nowhere close to the hate holos like ame, mori or kronii get on the catalog
>>40084294So IRyS is the #5 HoloEN huh
>>40084294Weird month with small sample sizes.
>>40084311Why does kaeler only care about money? Her coworkers are hurting because of her subhuman treatment.
>>40084369Because I'm lazy and you didn't post a link. Also, New Year.
>>40084187The streams for the 30th for Holo EN were:......
>>40084125>>40084255Starting the year with a HoloGold2023 will be a good year
>>40084353I probably did, i found a new game a few days ago and ended up playing for a few days. Plus holiday obligations with friends and family left me kind of out of touch with everything.
>>40084255>22,435: Chloe (Hololive)>19,833: Chloe (Hololive)That's very funny.>15,333: Chloe (Hololive)Probably the first instance of Chloe triple tally.
>>40084345I just dont like her voice or personality desu
>>40084345It's just Nijinigs jealous she didn't join their black company, ignore them
>>40084311It's because she streams like 16 hours a day. Pretty sure if you average out her earnings vs time streamed Zeta would kick her ass.
>>40084415Based
>>40084385Eh, can't say I like her myself. I'd be happy if she left if hololive is too constraining for her
>>40084345You should be worrying about your oshi hoobro. I love her but she's in a downward trend and doesn't seem to be stopping. Her median has been going down every month since August.11,384 > 7,868 > 7,493 > 7,180 > 6,744
>>40084396>>40084255
>>40084488yeah same 2bh, I think pekora has gotten too bog for hololive too and think she should leave to do her own thing at this point
How can you say joining hololive is getting the golden ticket when you look at their bottom performers
>>40084514Anon silly pekora can just buy hololive and make it her own thing
EN3 is coming sooner than you expect
>>40084514You stfu
>>40084345Nijiniggers will never forgive her for being more successful than Selen.
>>40084488Why are Nijifags like this?
>reading catalog since nobody made a new threadWhat's with schizos obsession for Hololive graduation
>>40084531I mean you compare the lowest girl of Hololive to the lowest girl of Niji and you will seeEven Roboco got above 1k
>>40084345because even in her weakest state ever while barely trying she still mogs majority of nijiEN and is at worse a mid tier holo.
>>40084365It 2023, new contract new pricing, bots are expensive in these economy.
>>40084531Because even their bottom performers make bank.
>>40084549But they have different audiences? Nijis should focus on being happy for selen's successes..
WELLLLLLLL, new year, new thread. Things seem to be civilized and slow, here is the >USUAL TABLESFirst, as per usual>MEDIAN OF PEAKS AND TRUE AVERAGE, DECEMBER 2022, KAIGAI ONLYFive streams or more in December 2022 to qualifyHere are some comments on the median part, the average part is a minute shuffle in positions without any major surprise.1) Gur-, wait, no? With Gura not making the required 5 streams Mysta takes the crown for the month! 2) No streamer in the kaigai side had a 10k+ median. Gura absence was sorely felt3) Fauna finished the month as EN #2 and HoloEN highest ranked 4) Kronii, Ame and IRyS complete the top 55) Vox, Bae, Mumei, Luca and Kobo complete the top 106) Kiara and Calli are the only other ones above a 5k median this month7) Vesper is the highest ranked StarEN with a sub 5k median, and Kaela the second highest ID with a 3k+ median8) The "Kiara Line" not only held but only three NijiEN outranked Kiara this month, all three Luxiem9) Aia and Aster from NijiEN and Mika from (ex) NijiID finished the month below the 1k lineand the punchline10) Pippa from Phase Connect had another very good month outranking Nina, Axel, Petra, Risu, Maria, Finana, Scarle and Anya with a 1.8k median.It is not as remarkable as two of "The Box" Taiwanese girls outranking her but absurdly good for a minor EN corpo
>>40084531Even Sana was doing pretty good moneywise before she went full dog hort
>>40084568jealous trannies kek
>>40084568They cannot compete fair and square and their only hope of winning is the eventual graduation of members
>>40084582mid tier holoEN*
>>40084531Bigger opportunities. I mean just look at holoX, strictly speaking from SC, even the runt make banks. Not to mention all those sponsorships and merchs.
>>40084590Pippa keeps getting stronger, she has to really try her hardest anymore to even get below 1k. Like playing WoW with a random 2view debuff level.
>>40084488>>40084514Nijifag larping as holo are always retarded.
>>40084415I’ll bite. If they don’t like it, they could always become fleshtubers. Males are guests in vTubing, they already rule the streaming sphere. If they couldn’t succeed as other traditional streamers and let’s players have done, they should go get a real job like everyone else.
>>40084568I have highlighted enough splits that i rarely need to even see the rest of the catalog unless i really want to
>>40084514What even compels you to think this will actually work out? Do you really think if she leaves hololive she will have ownership of her model? Not to mention her gachikoi fanbase is practically non existent. Only people who can leave hololive are those with cult like fanbases like marine/aqua/miko. Between pekora's identity of being funny rabbit peko peko and half of the nousagis being big number chasers, there's no way she'll find the same success outside of hololive.
>>40084568It's probably the schizophrenia
>>40084590I might be interjecting here but will you post the charts(global and kaigai) for year 2022 as a whole?
>>40084590>bae median 6995>bae average 5284what the fuck? has she been spamming supers like irys?
>>40084590>the average part is a minute shuffle in positions without any major surprise.How the fuck is the fact that Mysta and Vox are first and second respectively not a major surprise?Are you even looking at your own tables?
>>40084676They never change their posting style so they're easy to spot too.
>>40084164He won't, he doesn't know English.
December SCs>>40082818>>40082877>>400829222022 SCs>>40083005>>40083063>>40083108
>>40084586The fact they are friends and that there once existed a real possibility of them ending up in different places kicked the usual Nijinigger inferiority complex into high gear.
>>40084539 k y s
>>40083108GO PIPPA GO
>>40084696Seems to be the long Persona streams.
>>40084692Yes, and for the six months of the second semester and the three months for the fourth quarter too.I make them as I post so this might take a while.I should make them in advance but, like live streaming, I like to read you guys commenting on it so I don't bother preparing the comments beforehand
>>40084622either larping or don't watch Holo, even the graphs, a good portion of hololive jp girls are below Mumei.
>>40084539nah son that ship sailed half a year a go
>>40084255>>40084492
>>40084689It’s a reoccurring shitpost in case you don’t know. Nigga false flagging as a cocky nousagi to get (You)
>>40084741rude desu
>>40084731People never do that to Suisei and Toko though
>>40084755This, also her median is heavily inflated this month by the off collab/regular collab spam at the end along with a few karaokes and raids.
cheers to a good 2023 mogging nijishits, and to live rent free in their heads for another full year bros
>>40084696I think fauna raided her a couple of times
>>40084731Selen was always too small to get into Hololive and Mumei to big to bother with Nijisanji. It's a nice story but it just isn't very realistic.
>>40084774>>40084255
No one in hololive will leave and be put in a better position than they are at now. NOONE
Btw, now that the main channel curse is broken, can we expect Cover to host more big events on it?Like taking a talent event, expand it and air it on main channel. Yes, the Nijisanji way
>>40084793They are japanese, not chinks
>>40084590>Neon KurouyriMy spicwife.
GURIMU
>>40084828>>40084255
>>400842554-24 win for nijisanji, hololive is dead
>>40084531Roboco bought a fucking house and wasted 70k$ on just the moving company.
>>40084848Chief, I am trying my hardest to be grim but it’s impossible after looking at all the things Pekora got today
>>40084590If anyone had told me 1 year ago that Mori that Mori would be the HoloEN streamer with the lowest average I would have called him fucking schizo
>>40084755Its just the ridiculous amount of buff content she did to end the month. In the second half of the month she did - Marine collab- Towa collab- karaoke- 3 off collab streamsOn top of that she got raided and funneled multiple times after being stuck at 4-5k on normal streams.
>>40084568between this thread and the catalog, which do you think is worse in terms of quality?
>>40084861You must be doing yen conversion incorrectly, there is no moving company that costs that much.
o bae actually made a frame on time
>>40084590>IRyS October - 8661>Redesign >IRyS December - 7375I was promised a massive incline...
>>40084369Feels like he got forcefully ejected from the algo, same as Sushi.
>>40084905Same thing, but Fauna then one with the highest median
>>40084911Catalog, this place has resident schizos but the catalog is almost purely tourists.
>>40084830Mori. She's got a spot waiting for her at vshojo that'll let her collab with all the flesh streamers she wants.And don't say she wouldn't have the UMG contract. Her music's taken a dive under them
5 hours in and Lui is no closer to getting her 1st but look at those ccv numbers.
>>40084911This thread is full of shitposters and baiters. Catalog is full of shitposters, baiters, and people who are legitimately as dumb as rocks.
>>40084827>too small to get into HololiveNo such thing.
>>40084945Didn't he cut down the lenght? I swear it used to be top 50.
>>40084959We been over this, Vshojo is really not the place to go if you care about making music like Mori
>>40084916It was 7k$, remembered it as a ludicrous 10milYenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnL0Lh46guk
>>40084856>>40084255
>>40084911Catalog is just pure baits while in here you can have normal discussion depending on the hours and what happens that day.
>>40084590fauna numbers basically don't move, now with ina return let's see how the viewership of the timeslot splits, and how many dormant takos are left, unless she return only to announce graduation, in that case rip january numbers for fauna.
>>40084968sufferkino endurance is always a buff
>>40084916She hired Brad Pitt to do the move. Just Brad. Lui Lui told her a company would be cheaper but Robocosan wants what she wants.
>>40084931Bae's frames except for the frist have all been hours in advanceSee her chat, NY one and now this
>>40085010>>40084255
>>40084703Nobody cares about average since it's a garbage way to measure viewership. This thread shifted over to median a long time ago and the average chart is just posted for legacy reasons I guess.
>>40085000Yeah, he cut it down to 30 a week or two after 50th place suddenly collapsed from ~60k to the ~35k range in the span of a couple of weeks (again, Holo music suddenly getting algo ejected since Oct).
>>40085006Their 11 MILLION fund begs to differ
>>40084959Just give up on mori you fag, she have seen the light and it future, and the future are holoerth and protolive. Only dumbass would throw that away for a shitty company lower than isegye.
>>40085104Isn't that already spent?
>>40085073to be fair median of peaks is garbage too
>>40084590When are you going to add the indies to this list? Vstats has a lot of EN and TW ones and some of them have got some pretty strong medians but aren't on here.
>>40085065>>40084255
>>4008510411 million sound like peanut in the grand scheme of thing
my cute wife
>>40085104What do they have to say about Vshojo's music projects?
/#/chads, tell me if Pippa has a chance this year, year of the rabbit and all
/#/ has declined
>>40085158>>40084255
>>40085193Is she a leech? There will no doubt be opportunity to leech off pekora
>>40085152It has it's issues, no way is perfect, but it's a much better measure than average. Average penalizes you for doing long streams or reading superchats. Sure median can be weird with raids and stuff like that but it doesn't have the same issues that average does.
DECEMBER VIEW/TIME RANKINGS See the picture for the numbers. Just look at the big table on top for the quickest results; or the one on the bottom for individual ranks.>If you want a quick summary, there is a lot of fluctuation inside the categories this month, but in general everybody has gained in views due to special events and winter holidays, as expected.>reminder that there has been some new youtube fuckery with the ccv numbers after this Christmas (and even after the supposed ”fix” of jan 10th - the problem persists as stated by teamyoutube themselves), however, taking a look at the vod views, the vod views still seem stable and not too messed up.>I’m using the metric (vod) views/time because it seems to be the best metric we can use for comparisons.>There’s no way to calculate direct hours watched without having access to data analytics from inside each channel owner or bullshitting it; simply counting total views doesn’t take into account how much did they stream to get there (and they usually count small skits and music videos as well); and live viewers (on youtube) are very buggy and cut off a significant portion of that real number (for example, comparison between Miko’s twitch and youtube minecraft streams seem to indicate that 35% of her yt live viewers numbers are hidden [read the OP or the whole thread >>2253454 for anons discussion on the possible reasons for it) (not to mention that twitch max live viewers are constantly influenced by twitch raids coming from other channels). Or see this <span class="deadlink">>>17329929 for mori-mousey split pov numbers.</span>>Reading and trying to compare all those ratios for each hour length would have been a pain, so that’s why I’ve already made the ranking tables, with ranks for inside each time length.>The longer the stream time, the fewer vtubers that had any videos available to calculate.>Never compare general view/time ratios of streamers who have very different stream duration averages - that’s why I just don`t rank those anymore, since people are too dumb.>Only compare data (or ranks) from the same time length.>For combining those ranges from each time length, i inverted each position into a fraction (position/total), calculated the average of all available time-length fractions for each streamer, and then compared those resulting numbers: the smaller your fraction is, it means the higher yours positions were, so you rank higher.>You can see a practical example (from may) here: >>4423534.>Video types like short skits, short amvs/covers/original songs, watchalongs, members-only, sc-only, or deleted were not included for the calculations.>Videos analyzed for 'this month' are from the time period of 30-11-22 to 01-01-23 (~1pm jst).>You can see the biggest individual growth fluctuations with those vtubers who had some huge special stream (like 3ds, costumes, returns, tournaments).>They can be big rises if the special vids happened on this month; or big falls if the special vids occurred on last month.>On those cases you can see % change of one specific time length way superior than the rest for that vtuber.>Collecting all this data was a whole lot of work, so no promises that I’ll be doing this again, or as big of a list. And im getting tired of adding all the new debuting midgets. >I don’t think I missed anyone too big, I left out the smaller nijisanjis, or holostars or whoever else because I don’t have the time to include them all - but I did include a few smaller ones just out of curiosity.>Expect the list of checked vtubers to be cut by a good number on the next month.>And no "now im suddenly a vtuber" trendhoppers were included either. >If you think I left out someone relevant you can try convincing me to do their numbers as well, although if they are too small I’ll just tell you to fuck off. Or you can just calculate it yourself and post it here, not too hard. >I didnt proofread this, if something mentions september is because i forgot to update the text or pic. >i think on last thread someone asked if i would update those names. Definitely not for this month version, as it will likely mess with some formulas. Give me a full list of those names youd like changed and ill see what i can do for next time. Short lists will be ignored. >do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.>i will reply to myself with that top vtubers history pic
>>40085200>>40084255
>>40085155If you post their links here I can add them next time. Just post every non JP in reply to this post and I can add them to the "kaigai" category
>>40085026I always find it annoying when the entire lobby plays like it's their job to get in the streamer's way.
>>40085248tldr
>>40085248me again, and here's the vtubers ranks history, updated. This one is not supposed to be perfect especially for the past years having worse sources, but it gives a good indication I guess. As usual the 0h and 1h were filled with events and special streams. As things of interest:- miko had her best position ever- vo ine had her best position ever- okayu had her best position ever- nene had her best position ever not counting their debut month- watame had her best position in a year- kagami had his best position in a year- gosegu had her best position ever
>>40085232Salome tried
>>40085244If average is garbage than SCs should be disregarded in any meaningful way since those who choose to do long SC readings or have SCs on all the time get more SCs but have a lower average.
>>40085165Would it sound bigger if you recontextualize it as 11 Voxs' annual superchats?
>>40085248>cope tableskek>do not repost cutouts of this without the full source.DOUBLE KEK
>>40084968trust the hag
Honest opinion, do you like her singing?
>>40085193>>40085232She already inclined plenty and is on a good path. It all started with my shill campaign here. Don’t think she have anything to worry about
>>40085336No
>>40085252>>40084255
>>40085292>>40085248Oh cool, miko finally won
>>40085336not really no, she's generic in every sense of the word
>>40085336Yes
>>40085336Yes. I love her songs.
>>40085336Yeah.
>>40085292Gura 3rd. Mysticism numbers anon
>>40085336Stack is literally her but cooler
>>40085336There's a reason everytime she is on stage the viewership spikes upYeah, she's great.
>>40085349Here the thread or here the board? The latter was obnoxious, dude. Only israeliEN was worse
>>40085299we all know that VOD numbers is the only metric that matters
>>40085336nah to meh
>>40084255nice pekowin
>>40085410Wrong. YouTube comment count is everything
>>40085292It's still blue at the top
>>40085292I caught Isegye on the TV the other night, they're surprisingly very talented singers and dancers. I was extremely impressed.
>>40085399This thread, I merely camouflage it as me cheering on her numbers, she barely got 1k on celebration stream back then, now she can hit 2k casually
>>40085292>>40085248Any metric that has Gura 3rd in anything this December is completely worthless.
>>40085450happy for you. She seems alright, though her hanging with depressed nousagi and that shitty Kiara joke makes me question her judgment
where is the pekorafication transformation porn??
>>40085364>>40084255
>>40085538Even my monthly cunny rankings? :(
>>40085446>Isegye on the TVgook tv?
>>40085292>>40085248TOP FUCKING KEK, the cope tally is back.Here is how retarded it is>Gura: 1.4M VOD Views on her streams in December: Number 3>Pekora: over 10M VOD Views on her streams in December: Number 4That's one of the most retarded tallies made in this thread because it is purely based on VOD Views but the streamers with the most VOD views aren't ahead
>>40084255>hologold>nijinigger got btfo from top3>Sora's opening up and wanted to go all out this year2023 will be a good year for us, holochads
>>40085538This chart also factors in VOD views. When you have over year old VODS like duolingo still picking up massive views you are going to rank well on this chart. Gura has always been a VOD monster. This isn't surprising.
>>40085450She probably snag from niji fanbase.
>>40085538magic numbers lmao
>>40085604Yes, Afreeca TV
>>40085557I just like Pippa energy and how she go Pipipipi at the start of the streamI have seen many “relatable” type of Vtuber but they either went too far or not well-versed enough in zoomer culture to make it funny. Pippa is just right
>>40085626It's nice being at the top but there's always that pressure that it's ours to lose
>>40084568Just the usual nijiseethe
>>40085582>>40084255
>>40085612retard, also your 4th reply already
>>40085538>Not the tallest Myth memberRefute this chumbud
>>40085612>>40085628>This chart also factors in VOD views. When you have over year old VODS like duolingo still picking up massive views you are going to rank well on this chart. Gura has always been a VOD monster. This isn't surprising.If it factors old VOD views GURA IS EVEN FUCKING WORSE. She trailed fucking SHION in the past 30 days. Gura trailed FUCKING AYAME in the past 30 days. She trailed KIARA!>FUCKING KIARA!There is no possible metric involving exclusively VOD VIews where Gura is #3 out of the whole vtuber industry in December 2022.Any tally that has it like that is a cope tally designed to have Gura at the top, which this one is.
Fuck off pippafag
>>40085667>>40085667Huh some gook the other day was saying that was a streaming site or something instead
>>40085259Sure, no problemhttps://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCCK072ns5Bt1nYqX1CoaZ-g/overall (ID)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCFahBR2wixu0xOex84bXFvg/overall (TW)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCyKsg-57XC9pyHbP7v3kCPQ/overall (EN)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCswRX8mNNdn1fjRctZqzjgA/overall (TW)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCBLqkkSpOi6a95Lf4BsTh7Q/overall (TW)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCR1Htb-H1-tus7UPotPh69A/overall (TH)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCg53fzp6UNYvsyAg8UoNXCA/overall (TH)https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCwzpXmWAFEVKH3VzwvSlY_w/overall (TW)Can vouch for all these being legitimate chuubas rather than edge case converts and who get decent numbers while streaming regularly and primarily on Youtube
Isn't this thing like a thousand dollars? the loathsome one just posted her new mic.
oh was that samefag on slumber?
>>40085612That's because your pea-brain is unable to grasp to concept of view/time.
>>40085748>Any tally that has it like that is a cope tally designed to have Gura at the top, which this one is.It always has been. That is why he invented it, he was pissed off that Gura doesn't lead on most metrics.
>>40085292damn honma fell off...
>>40085721>>40084255
>>40083108Another good month for iori. Good job at staying on the top3
>>40085351>>40085366nijidrone...
>>40085806I can understand it perfectly. It applies a penalty on VODs that are "too long" to make sure streamers with long VODs won't benefit from streaming too much in a period of time.Then it averages the number of views by the number of streams to make sure those who stream too little will benefit from it.I can only wonder who are the streamers that >stream to little>stream short streams>have a high VOD per stream
>>40085800He probably went to sleep and woke up now, he was here in the early morning, disappeared, and now back kek
>>40084568I dunno, they seem to think the /pol/ tactic of making your opponents hate their own side hard enough to stay home makes sense in an entertainment medium. Sure, Glueeater McDipshit can win an election if only two people show up to vote, but trying to convince people to go from "Vtubing makes me happy" to "Vtubing makes me unhappy" is only viable if you're trying to shrink the community as a whole so much that you have an opening to groom your oshi.
>>40085860>>40084255
>>40085887To his credit Gura is almost always #1 in streamers who are Gura.
>>40085781Thanks, I'll add them for the next month
pekora is cute not sexy
>>40085887>I can only wonder who are the streamers thatQuite a few.. Are you really trying to imply Gura is the only one that fits that description?
>>40085887>>40085931Kek just let the chumbud have this oneWe don’t even know if this number actually mean anything
>>40085963Yes, on that third criteria>high VOD per stream
>>40084568they get paid a gift card for catalog posting
There will be a month when Gura will have ZERO stream and, somehow, she'll be #6 at the View/Time cope tally
Say something nice about my oshis please anons
>>40085980>We don’t even know if this number actually mean anythingIt doesn't. It's just a cope tally like the other anon said. It can safely be ignored and disregarded.
>>40086055Yeah, this month.
is this the spectrum fag again?
>>40085958yes but that wont stop me from fucking her>>40084255
>>40085958>cuteTrue>sexyAlso true, she's just more cute than sexy
>>40085995If that was true Gura would always be #1, and she isn't. I have no idea why you lose your mind every month when this chart gets posted, it's a simple view/time chart, and every time to "counter" it you post total views as if they are not 2 completely different metrics.
>Makes a tally just so his oshi winsKinda based. Are you that dedicated to your oshi, anon?
>>40086141you're a madman
So much seethe from one niggerkeep doing the holy work, tallyanon
This seems quite good for 2 days no ?
Wait was the pekopoke lottery today? Any pic or list?
>>40086064"Plasmagic Seasons!" is the best official gen song
>>40086141>>40084255
>>40086235Yeah it ain't bad, is it close to aquas new cover?
>>40084164Wait her actual brothers or the bo... big bro she's living with atm? Because I used to think it would be a perfect solution if they really want to have EN Stars so badly and ID was always the most involved with them. But then again I have no trust in SEA, they would find ways for it to backfire I bet like using Moona to hook up with other hologirls since they actually do off collabs on a pretty regular basis no way they wouldn't invite ID-based homos even if they're not related, Ollie would push to include them and there is nobody in that branch to fight back against such ideas.
>>40086328>>40084255
>>40086337worse, Ollie also has several brothers
>>40084730Ah nice Vox won the annual superchat tally! I'm sure that means he's going to have a great 2023, I'll just go check out now what happened to, say the last two winners and how they're doing now
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>>40086414kek maybe he can join vshojojp too
>>40086309I like HI-15 more.
>>40086235Extremely good - I'd say the same for Aqua's cover clocking 400k in 2 days. Even KoyoKuro Identity doing 125k is surprisingly high compared to the past couple months when most would struggle to hit that in a week for covers of similar quality.
>>40086441Gotta reach her SC quota
>>40086064most rapeable gen
>>40083800Mel already doesn't stream much, that's big part of the reason why her numbers are meh but if she didn't leave after the stalker situation I can't see why she would now.
>>40086505anon they would rape you instead
Why did luxiem grow so fast at one point and now they are growing like a snail?
>>40086577Bugs run out.
>>40086389>>40084255
>holo main channel won>still posting Pekora only
EN3 is closer than you think
>>40086577They suffered the with same thing Myth suffered from in that they peak way to fast early on in their careers
>>40086577You know why.
>>40086636all the holos were transformed into pekora, he's just being a chuuni
>>40084837You know what to expect they will use it to shill the homos.
>>40086636
>>40084590>niji top>no 10k median its over...
Here a Niji EN 3D debut question realistically how long will it take all current members to get their 3D debuts and could potentially Tempus,EN3, Stars EN 2 and EN 4 all get their 3D debuts first before all the current Niji EN members
>>40086636is someone holding a gun to your head saying you can't post other holos? just post whatever holos you want and stop being a faggot
>>40086636im her dedicated lewd poster ofc im only going to post pekora but feel free to post yours nobody is stopping you
>>40086577Sorta like holoen i guess, sister starts to branch outside the box to find different male vtubers. Also its one year so there is more male vtubers trying to copy what luxiem did. You can also see their own china vtubers threads popping out more in chink nijiturf.and nijien threads slowing down a lot. They are gonna be like how holojp slowly losing their eops and only core fans staying.
>>40086619>>40084255
>>40086636here you go
>>40086636Those are pictures of many different Holos. They just all transformed into Pekora.
>>40086940>>40084255
>>40086955oh fuck...
>>40087044>>40084255
When will Kiara get the Subaru tier incline?
>>40087133when she drops the chicken voice
THE HAG DID IT
>>40087134>>40084255
>>40086577This but Myth
>>40085292This really should just be called the efficiency metricHow much reward (views) per effort (stream time) you getSo it's no surprise lazy chuubas like Gura and Ayame rank up there with the CCV monsters in terms of efficiency
my oshi doesn't pronounce gif correctly
>>40087350>>40084255
>>40087133>Drop the chicken voice in DRAMATIC FASHION so it gets clipped everywhere and everyone knows about it. Like, have a health scare, take a week or two off to 'fix and adjust things' and come back saying that her voice changed because of her throat being bad or something>Adjust how she approaches content. -Right now, Kiara pretty much has a NEGATIVE focus on the game she's playing and instead just talks about herself. This is exemplified in what happened in her Elden Ring streams where she went out of her way to NOT have her stream be about the game at all. Yes, it's extreme, but this current is in direct contrast to someone like Subaru, who makes interacting and reacting to the game a core part of her streams. >Fix her personality issues-Tying into point 2, there's a reason that MEMEME gets associated with Kiara. She is self-centered to an extent, and her austrian bluntness combined with it makes it offputting to many, despite how good she may be to the other girls behind the scenes.
>>40085399>Only israeliEN was worseSpeaking of which, I haven't heard much about them recentlyI guess their debut hype died down or the shill funds slackened
>>40086636did you uh, watch the stream? or even just look at the thumbnail or title?
>>40087639I'm sick of Pekora. She wins like 2-3 times a week.
>>40087516"Gif" doesn't have a proper pronunciation.
Enjoy the new years friends?
Old timer lore was the best >Lonely wimpy robot from some random wasteland
>>40087695>>40087516MILF, but GILF, and then GIF.
>>40087525>>40084255
>>40087652Deal with it
>>40087614sometimes it seems that these new corpos are just some new form of money laundry scheme
>>40087747EN3 is gonna have simple, non-chuuni lore.
>>40087762>>40084255
>>40087550ThisGod, her holocure preview stream pissed me offPay attention to the fucking game instead of relegating it to a background distraction for a random zatsu
>>40087747>virtual liver
>>40087614successful enough they're already auditioning for a new gen
>>40087614Bit of both, that bloke (who may or may not still be here) who kept shilling them was obnoxious about it, and just made me write them off completely instead of giving them a chance (Shill status: FAILURE). That's exactly how you do NOT shill a fucking new product, the dumb fuckwit.
>>40087818>I have spent this last year writing their debut lore and even delayed them to finish it in time
since nothing is happening, are anons excited for gen 1 and 2 to appear in holocure? who'll play it first? numbers?
>>40087928He got shitcanned.
>>40087928Anon omega... he is...
>>40087928Omega is dead anon, you have to let ig go
https://twitter.com/rikkaroid/status/1609507977526128641Uh, guys, I thought you said Omega was gone? Why is Rikka saying new years to a dead man?
>>40087957>>40087958>>40087969I don't believe he is dead before i see his decapitated head
>IRyS streaming during Kiara’s time zone for New Year’s Eve>gets 7k during overlap>Kiara streaming during IRyS’s time zone for New Year’s Eve>gets 2k during overlapKEK.
>>40087957>>40087958>>40087969Source/timestamp?
>>40087822>>40084255
>>40087957>>40087958>>40087969Naive. EN3 lore will be a band of chosen heroes who can hear the voice of a sealed away god. Their divine mission is to find and revive him
>>40087992Delete this. Omega is DEAD okay?
>>40088026>>40056038
>>40088106Might just be the same wishful thinking we have
>>40088106God i wish, i fucking hate that tranny probably the worst EN invention
>>40088053>>40084255
>omega is goneThis is still not going to save EN holobronies KEKEKEKEK
>>40088171God, why are you so insufferable?
>>40088125I don't think Kiara can be more straightforward than that without straight up saying he got the boot, the Omega project at least seems dead, the person behind it probably not
>>40087992He doesnt know. He also happy new years fauna
>>40088106From this stream?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGsUovQ4N7YI'm not seeing anything about omega or management (other than jenma) in the timestamps
>>40088203I really hope it's dead, but i think they're gonna comeback whenever EN4 gets announced.
What the fuck was their plan with Omega?
>>40088171
>>40088331Kek, I was looking too. I've resigned to just listening to it in the background. Kiara's actually not so bad when she's gushing about hololive
>>40088372EN A-chan.
>>40088331he's "hibernating forever" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGsUovQ4N7Y&t=10233s
>>40088372who cares, yeeted and deleted
>>40088372It was something they thought EN fans demanded.
>>40088372They gave whoever is in charge of EN free reign since Cover doesn't care that much about EN. Turns out they gave the keys to a retard that happened to know Japanese and English.
Imagine if Omega got a Live2D update as a joke.
Tempus
>>40088424Halle-fucking-lujah
>>40088516Love
>>40088372it was an attempt at destroying /#/, but we survived WE WON
>>40088516Hate
>>40088644>>40088676All the same
>>40088516who?
>>40088424based
>>40088424LMAO it was basically a big fat "Who?" from Kiara, based chicken
>>40088451They thought Myth's massive success was due to, rather than in spite of, this fuckwit
Ok now that omega is gone then s-surely EN will incline now… r-right guys?
>>40088424I don't think i have ever seen an employee of Cover being so openly disliked
>>40088424So apparently holomem don't always get bento when they work at the studio. It's "kinda rare" even. After years of defending Cover, I have to finally relent that they are indeed a black company.
EN watchtime Hololive EN 11 members>Jan: 3,626,369 (585.5hrs, 215 streams)>Feb: 3,021,167 (439.3hrs, 146 streams, 6,878 avg)>Mar: 4,907,065 (615.4hrs, 180 streams, 7,974 avg)>Apr: 3,886,364 (529.2hrs, 177 streams, 7,344 avg)>May: 3,386,966 (464.8hrs, 158 streams, 7,288 avg)>Jun: 3,293,675>Jul: 4,066,096>Aug: 3,930,035 (526.1hrs, 165 streams, 7,471 avg)>Sep: 3,340,198 (491.3hrs, 157 streams, 6,798 avg)>Oct: 3,446,635 (507hrs, 159 streams, 6,798 avg)>Nov: 2,728,747 (478.1hrs, 132 streams, 5,707 avg)>Dec: 2,318,190 (375.4hrs, 121 streams, 6,175 avg)>total: 41,951,507Nijisanji EN 32 members>Jan: 3,174,294 (1,438.6hrs, 396 streams)>Feb: 3,972,676 (1264.1hrs, 336 streams , 3,143 avg)>Mar: 6,283,717 (1892.4hrs, 514 streams, 3,320 avg)>Apr: 6,449,716 (1,983.9hrs, 503 streams, 3,251 avg)>May: 5,661,308 (1,461.6hrs, 423 streams, 3,873 avg)>Jun: 5,873,002>Jul: 6,285,678>Aug: 7,022,216 (1,935.1hrs, 585 streams, 3,629 avg)>Sep: 5,285,293 (1,995.7hrs, 554 streams, 2,648 avg)>Oct: 4,916,112 (2,106.3hrs, 519 streams, 2,334 avg)>Nov: 3,695,275 (1,555.6hrs, 455 streams, 2,375 avg)>Dec: 5,900,283 (2,141.2hrs, 633 streams, 2,756 avg)>total: 64,519,570
This is kind of a retarded layout desuhttps://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1609459410060861440
>>40088883g-guys????
>>40088424Good. Omega was a fucking mistake.
>>40088883Even is he is gone management is still pushing the stupid homos. Heck the big boss himself is a homo lover.
>>40088171>>40088372>>40088514>>40088883>>40088969Is this the same person?
>>40088976Was he the reason they don't like streaming, can't be bothered to prepare their streams ahead of time, don't collab, have no motivation, dislike their fans, etc?If so, then absolutely they will incline. And yes I know they don't all share those issues.
wait... Sora's voice is sex?
>>40084365I was told his 13 million twitter views would turn into something.
>>40088969>Almost 300k views>13k likesWhat a fucking dead account
>>40089081Damn, you got me
After all the time they've taken with EN3, I really hope they've recruited top tier streamers
>>40084311she does tho
top 10 hated according to suki kira>matsuri>laplus>rushia>ayame>coco>noel>towa>shion>fubuki>haatoif you take away rushia and coco, you get>pekora as #9>iroha as #10
>>40088883Damage is already done over the past two yearsAt the very least, there's the potential to recover without him fucking over ENAssuming the talents, Gura in particular, return to 2021 levels of motivation and activity, all these rumored projects in the works pan out, and EN3 is goodIt's a fuckin steep hill to climb tho
>>40086577market for male chuubas is pretty small and saturated, also yabs combined and often caused by the language/cultural barrier killing the luxiem brand.
>>40089197Thousand cuts-anon was right
>>40089167Where is Miko
EN3 in two weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dcYTMuL44UNumbers ?
got a Gura clip recommended and thought "wow an old Gura clip with only 150k?" then I looked at the date 1 day ago.
>>40088883They need to stream more. Since that's not going to happen, they need EN3.
2022 superchat EN market>Nijisanji EN: $5,246,458>Hololive EN: $2,502,569
>>40089170>relying on Gura and EN3 coming out perfect and not just Council 2.0The future is grim huh
>>40089518I wonder if there is any clipniggers that haven't realized that Gura is on break
>>400894855k it is not a popular game
>>40089556>just superchats
>>4008948515k, she has a new model and is on a massive incline
monthly views EN market
>>40089170No way EN3/4 is good, i am 90% they're gonna pick the most normie options avaliable. And they're also going to collab with the males.
>>40089485Only the JP audience gave a fuck about that game and it fell off fast. Don't expect much.
>>40089556jesas
>>40089678Stop shitposting.
>>40089736>shitpostingYeah we'll see about that.
>>40089653July 18thnever forget
>>40089566Nobody said perfect, they just have to be good, which is very doable.And if you want to bring Council into this, they are a solid 3 good streamers out of 5 (or 4 out of 6 if you want to include IRyS).
>>40089556per chuuba doko
>>40083063huh, Shion got more than Ayame.
>>40089653HoloEN monthly views2020 total >myth: 178,202,170>hope: 0>council: 0total 178,202,1702021 total (gain)>myth: 563,440,759 (+385,238,589)>hope: 27,544,249 (+27,544,249)>council: 77,617,400 (+77,617,400)total 2021 668,602,408 (+490,400,238)2022 total (gain)>myth: 409,793,339 (-153,647,420)>hope: 38,945,670 (+11,401,421)>council: 159,771,505 (+82,154,105)total 2022 608,510,514 (-60,091,894)
>>40089793refresh my memory
>>40089556Now take out Luxiem.
>>40089865Tempiss was announcedDebut July 22
>>40089907Only if you take out Council.
>>40089862NijiEN monthly views2021 total>lazulight: 26,382,770>obsdyia: 20,541,259>ethyria: 11,170,718>luxiem: 6,925,111>noctyx: 0>iluna: 0>xsoleil: 0total 65,019,8582022 total (gain)>lazulight: 80,011,981 (+53,629,211)>obsdyia: 69,558,506 (+49,017,247)>ethyria: 95,240,284 (+84,069,566)>luxiem: 263,840,487 (+256,915,376)>noctyx: 103,517,835 >iluna: 52,264,746 >xsoleil: 11,793,029 total 676,226,868
>>4008997110x growth
>>40089907>1090184(vox)+608962(luka)+479932(ike)+408056(mysta)>2,587,134>2587134/5246458 =.493149.31%
>>40089485Why the fuck is she playing fucking Gundam when Bae, Mumei, and Fauna are scheduling all this fun off collab stuff? Why isn't she joining them? What is her problem?
>>40089862>>40089971with official channelsHoloEN>2021 official: 10,291,405>overall: 678,893,813>2022 official: 21,494,343>overall: 630,004,857 (-48,888,956)NijiEN>2021 official: 21,529,013>overall: 86,548,871>2022 official: 107,119,922>luxiem ch: 13,048,796>overall: 796,395,586 (+709,846,715)
>>40089653Holoviewers that liked male x female collabs left for Niji because there you get it all the timeHoloviewers who didn't like it leftbravo Omega(symbolic for whoever is behind that idea)
>>40088516*Tempiss
>>40088969they should have waited until tempus get their NY outfits
>>40090111Either something with her family is preventing her (her mom is in Japan) or she doesn’t want to collab with them for some reason.
reminder SCs revenue is only meaningful in the way that it show how willing the viewers are to spend money on the streamer/brand in generalthe absolute value of SC itself is not as important because all of the cuts
>>40090111Anons in global say that IRyS doesn’t really like them as much as they thought she did. Basically CouncilRyS fags in shambles.
>>40089653Honestly even with Ina's and potentially Gura's return, i don't see HoloEn getting out of that slump until EN3
>>40090212I'm really disappointed in her, Irystocrats. The low-key numberfagging is commendable, but her lack of unity is a shameful display
>>40090111I think IRyS might be genuinely having a menhera moment. I mean she literally tweeted she did nothing but stay in bed all day like what lmao
>>40090269Are we having another offcollab ending up with people growing more distant to each other?
>>40090111it's gonna sound like irystocope but is she even invited?>>40089653was it worth it yagoo?
>>40090212Her mom travels to Japan multiple times a year and she just spent a whole month in the states with her Mom and Dad. Meanwhile her friends aside from Bae will only be there a couple weeks.
my screenshot from a year ago (January 2022)
>>40090334Just IRyS. Mumei, Bae, and Fauna have been having great streams and have proven that Council unity runs much deeper than Myth ever did.
>>40090334Who would’ve guessed that women meeting up together would turn hostile. This is sarcasm by the way.
>>40090158You don't need a degree to see this a mile away. En made the wall garden their thing for two years and gather a lot of fans because of it. But, whoever was in charged thought that it wasn't good enough.
>>40090375now (January 2023)
>>40090111Because she's not staying in the same apartment as them? It's easier to plan collabs when you're near each other. Just look at Lamy and Marine, even Coco, Kanata, and Suisei way back
>>40090402Thanks for clarifying that, my autism would have made me yell at you.
>>40090397Thanks god Kronii isn't here
>>40090346>is she even invited?Council was begging her to come over for new years only for her to stream for her fans.
>>40089427top 10 most liked are>mel>sora>aki>luna>azki>flare>koyori>okayu>suisei>kanata
NijiEN monthly median
>>40090397Kronii....
>>40090422
>>40090475On that note, i think she even said that they were very far from her.
>>40090476imagine how she'd have reacted to the homos during the concert
>>40089768>Reddit formatSmells like that Nijifag again.
>>40090495The black logo was much better
>>40090346>it's gonna sound like irystocope but is she even invited?This time? Since they're streaming early? Probably not. But reminder that the watchalong she was invited ON STREAM to a sleepover and IRyS apparently said no and did a solo stream instead. And if they were all (mostly, without Ina) going to karaoke I highly fucking doubt Ms " I want to stay in bed all day" also wasn't invited
>>40090492What is Kronii even up to? If it weren't for the outfit reveal i would have forgotten about her completely
>>40089566Honestly if they're just decent quality wise and active it'd be a boon for EN.
>>40090556I'm sure her "true fans" could tell us but I have no clue
>>40090527Jp homo ? Probably "Who? Let me google them"
>>40089485God I hope the council girls only stream for 2 hours so she doesn't get a funnel. She doesn't deserve one at all.
>>40089634
>>40090609She apparently knew about Shien at least since i think she used his version or something for her Mafia cover.
>>40090600
>>40088424Holy fuck, what's with that voice, it sounded so sex for a while.
>>40089971The chart's more interesting than the YoY delta (which is massively skewed by debut month and barely represents anything).>Lazulight's...somewhere between barely inclined and stagnant relative to debut. They got the summer incline and then seemingly retained little to none of it.>Obsydia and Ethyria are half doublings, half debut ditch. Rosemi, Petra, Nina and Reimu are kinda bricked right now.>Selen seems to be the big winner so far, having actually retained most of the summer branch incline.>Uhhh...Luxiem is back to fucking pre-Mandate numbers. Ow.>Noctyx numbers are sorta stable since fall-winter (chuck an extra 1m in for Yugo's empty slot) but it's still a pretty steady downwards trend.>Wow, Aster fell off a fucking cliff between Sept and Oct, and has been a cripple ever since. He's only matched by Aia taking a similarly drastic tumble during Oct-Nov.
>>40090158>>40090418Why keep samefagging this point? There were barely any Stars collabs to begin with. Any EN recline is due to them not fucking streaming.
your precious ENs from most liked to most hated
>>40090705Kari chan kakkoi
>>40088361They might make a post or two or something, similar how he came back to shill Tempiss. He was retweeting shit since.
>>40090661Hey that's Fauna doing the big thumbs up! I guess she's seeing all the people having fun on discord and barely gets acknowledged when she says something kek
>>40090686
>>40090556probably looking for new kusoge, planning more male collabs, and trying really hard to forget how much her new outfit makes her look like a bug
>>40090705I bet Gura and Mumei are in the middle because they can't actually understand them.
>>40090236Why dump money on SCs when they actively tell their fans to spend elsewhere? e.g. Suisei, Mori, etc.
>>40090686the classic "it can never be tempiss fault, it has to be literally everything else"
>>40090705Are nips finally red-pilled on Mori?
>>40087550>fix her personalityimpossible.
>>40090705Fauna #2
>>40090705>sukikirai
>>40090705>Mori dead lastAll is right with the world.
>>40090705reminder that his place is a nijisanji den
>>40090705Wait is mori all the way down? Tought JP's liked the wigger.
>>40090791Yes. Tempus has only helped the hololive brand and has expanded their market cap.
>>40090705Sukikirai fucking sucks because there's a highly limited pool of users who know what this site even is. IRyS and Bae are that high because they jp pander hard and myth are lower because they have more haters since they're more popular. Fauna's only that high because "cute voice" and "ASMR" but if she were more popular in Japan she'd definitely have more haters and be much lower
>>40090705I feel like this is just Nips who got influenced by (Us) with a bias for JP speakers IRyS and Baelike Mori's music sells well in Japan and Gura had a ton of cosplays at comiket. They are more popular than Ms NA audience Ceres lol
>>40090705Mori chan kakkoi...
>>40090791never mind that the next day after their announcement ccv started falling off a cliff.
>>40090791Stop shitposting in this thread, retard.
>>40090705Fauna 2nd just from the ASMR?
>>40090857Agreed. Thanks to them the HoloPro mindshare on Twitter and Reddit has fucking skyrocketed.
december 2021 vs 2022
>>40090901Calm down sis, /mans/ is the other way
>>40089167Suki kira is good because it tells you at a glance who has the most number of dedicated anti's. Does not have to be a huge group though, since you can just spend all day posting and voting down.
>>40090914That's true and they translate very well to actual viewers
>>40090705>so many (You)s for the ens but completely ignoring the JPsit's that easy huh?
>>40086520You say that but she is up to 7+ hours streaming (still going) today and all of it was zatsudan.>>40090478>#1-#4 are some of the least watchedThat site doesn't seem that accurate or it needs to add a third option for 'Couldn't give a fuck'
>omega deadretarded ass motherfucker pisses me off snot cause troon shit, but because he's "dropped ideas, the vtweeter"First it was his "debut" since had a goddamn YT channel. Second was the le sekrit forgotten 5th tempus member form the Manga.
>>40090872Sukikirai is populated by schizos since you can vote daily. Antis get the biggest voice and the irrelevant get love.
is the holo reddit still dying?
>>40090948Just think about how much these new audiences spend on merch, concert tickets, SCs and memberships!
>>40090955Because everyone knows who is the most hated in Japan. Everyone knows why they hate Laplus and Matsuri it's not worth discussing
>>40090939So go shitpost over there rather than treating this thread like a litterbox for your fantasies.
>>40090978I wonder what they actually planned to do with that youtube channel
>>40090991I don't know i don't use it, heard it's a homobeggar paradise though.
I'm glad they're putting everything ok Bae's channel and I hope she zooms past Fauna because of it
>>40090974>That site doesn't seem that accurate or it needs to add a third option for 'Couldn't give a fuck'on the contrary, the top 10 who are hated are the ones who are more "popular" since they're the ones who are talked about the most and have the dedicated group of antis regardless of whether said groups are big or small
>>40090991People saying that they prefer browsing 4chan over the sub got upvoted
>>40091011Yes, yes, Tempus didn't had any impact on HoloEN at all, we get it.This is just the seasonal recline, just like last year right ?
>>40090991after the official re-branding from Hololive to "Hololive production" to push the Homos it has become a barren wasteland of homo shill posts, culture war and NSFW art spam (which get's deleted often)
>>40090991Very slow bleed for the last year and a half. If literally any Holo started doing meme review content again it'd probably go back to early 2021 numbers.https://subredditstats.com/r/hololive
>>40091079I don't believe that, proof ?
>>40091026wonder if the anon that keeps track of it is still around?
>>40091152I lurk the reddit 16h a day to downvote any homo post
>>40091092Them not streaming is going to hurt them a lot more than a handful of male streams that quickly started and then stopped, retard. HoloEN only has itself to blame for the places it's reclined in. They should be following Fauna's example with consistent content and scheduling. Also kys.
>>40091021Something like A-chan do?
>>40091130Jesus
>>40091079Fucking hell, if true it must be hell trying to parse opinions from this hellhole for marketing. The fuckers would actually need to work instead of making shit like Pepsi universe.https://jimedwardsnrx.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/pepsi_gravitational_field.pdf
>>40090991Its at its lowest point since Fall 2020 which tells you how bad it has gotten over there in being a dead subreddit.
>>40091227
>>40090705>IRyS, Fauna, and Bae are the top 3HOLY FUCKING BASED TASTE!!!
>>40088372Mr. McMahon of Vtubing
>>40091142>>40091253
>>40091227They were low on streams in pretty much the same way for months. What changes was the arrival of tempiss. Stop going LALLALALAL DOESN'T COUNT.
>>40091260>dead subredditIf you think it's dead you know nothing about the site.
>>40091215So how bad is it?
>>40091079Found it, it's under the now-unpinned Holostars stream posthttps://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/zztlx8/hololive_production_countdown_live_20222023/j2edkj0/
>>40091282>Ship sinkingWhat happened?
>>40091260Some of them moved to /vt/ or discord. Some of them moved on from vtuber and maybe back to gacha games or anime
>>40091314>cunny posting stops>redditors migrate to /vt/
>>40085292Oh yeah, i should probably tell you this.vo_ine's name is just Ine, but it was too short for a username.https://youtu.be/p0llw2qAjiI?list=PL-izfQiZK7r2JgwTWTKP_D4Y7rjk4jhEL&t=30Pronounced Aine, as in the English I and Shion's Nee.
>>40091071>the top 10 who are hated are the ones who are more "popular" >matsuri>laplus>towa>fubuki>haatoYou have a weird concept of 'popular' if you think these ones are anywhere near close to being 1st Army or even 2nd Army.
>>40091314>>40091373>1 day ago>not on negative updootsPALESTINE
>>40091395male collab
>>40091282>Bitch goes on break and manages to stream even less when she comes back>reclines>No December numbers when she was active again.wow.
>>40091395
>>40090705How about NijiEN?
Remember those few weeks when the sisters would anti tempus hard but then pivoted into fake supporting them when they realized most holofans here wanted tempus to fail harder than anyone?
>>40091419none of the ens are in the 1st army or even close to being in the first army yet they are popular on this board and are talked about more than any JP isyour comprehension reps anon, I'm not talking about numbers here
>>40091348bad, the only things getting upvoted are tempiss memes and nsfw (outside of announcements or other happenings)and the mod(s) clearly has a homo bias
>>40091445nijisister pls stop
>>40091318This is the numbers thread, anon. Data for their recline has already been here.
>>40091449This post was what turned me against the homos and Kronii. It was all fun and games until she went full retard, that and the hiding behind EN management
>>40091342I meant relative to its hey day, Holo subreddit NOW is dead compared to how it was in early 2021 peak. Are there even deader subreddits? Absolutely but why are we comparing Hololive to an obvious corpse like some faggot's private MLP fandom?
>>40088516fugit, aeternitas manet.
>>40091483I'm not a sister and i thought they would stay in their lane like the JP stars but then "holopro" became a thing and even the JPstars started to get pushed towards the girls
>>40091513>The 8thShow the whole thing, Nijifag.
>>40091435>>40091449So it didn't have anything to do with her ship with Mumei?
https://twitter.com/wellenborg/status/1609593336884793346/photo/1
>>40091130from july 18 to december 29 the sub growth was 49k compare to 184k from jan 19 to june 29.
>>40091583Indirectly, since her pushing the homo collabs meant the ship being destroyed.
>>40091541>unfortunately idol culture is a thingI was out at that moment. I still am hoping her part gets cut from HoloFes.
>>40091552Holo subreddit still gets posts up alongside the most popular on the website. Call it dead is stupid and pointless. You want dead go look at the Nijisubreddit.
>>40091541hohoho you'd loved her unarchived member stream. She's worse than Mori.>>40091572look it up yourself, kronie. She's struggling to keep up with Bae.
>>40091610iBotSpeed
>>40091455here's nijiEN from most unpopular to most poplarthe top most popular 5 are:>Ike>shu>fulger or whatever his name is>knox>selenI'm not sure why noctyx as a whole gen is there though
>>40091646Cover is not petty enough to do that. If she's advertized as being there (and she is), she'll be there.
>>40091518You're the one looking at the numbers literally cratering after Tempiss debuts and ignoring the data anon, it's embarrassing. Again, they didn't stop streaming even harder after Tempiss debuted. There was no massive change.
>>40091610>windah>ludwigKEKindobros WW@
>>40091689>Won't share it because it contradicts them.Neck yourself, Njifag.
>>40091486I see so what you're saying is is that your definition of 'popular' on that site is how controversial the girl's actions, be it with Holo or on RM. The controversial ones act like a brighter light at night and draw more 'bugs'?Still though, why is Kanata, Flare and Mel well-liked then? Aren't they controversial enough to be more in the middle, if not in the top 10 hated?
>>40091714>I'm not sure why noctyx as a whole gen is there thoughBecause they didn't do as good as they expected
>>40091541There isn't a good move after this. At least in JP there's an apology as a move.You can't even do apology in EN because it would make homobeggar mad and create rrat about Kronii being oppressed by management
>>40091700There's no way that guy isn't botting right? His content is "zoomer chimp chimping out". I can see why he'd be a hit with some kids but he has no clout or mindchair despite retard tier numbers.
>>40091610HoloEN where?
>>40091748Windah is an honorary Holo.
>>40091635it was her comment on shipping after her first homo collab saying that yuri is fine because it isn't real.
>>40091756you made the first claim, post proof or go back to discord
>>40091719Nice fantasy, Nijifag.
>>40091800Nah, he's his own thing.
>>40091689How bad was the members stream?
>>40091769The most retarded thing of all was that she got her golden ticket by her manager to just ignore it and then all of this happened
>>40091821>Comes in here shitting about Tempus causing HoloEN to crater>Thinks other people are making the first claim.Go claim your giftcards, Nijifag.
>>40091761>mel>flareno real discussion about them, they don't care enough.see haachama for example, most of the impressions about her and the dislike in the last 10 days or so was because she got covid and had to take a break
>>40091779dude gets 76k in one stream then next day gets 2k. its clearly bots
>>40091610Quick, send it to Ludwig!Even though it's missing Pastor Jerry Eze and the King of live views - Bispo Bruno Leonardo
>>40091822hahah okay sister, back to your classic "pretend holofags are nijiniggers" start to defend your worthless homo brand and the damage they did to Hololive. Apparently I'm the nijifag for identifying that, not you for larping about muh lazy whores losing their audience cause muh no streams (a classic nijinigger post btw)
>>40091857Classic Rushia move
>>40091130I know it's not everything but the fact that a single global thread reaching bump limit has more comments than the entire reddit in a whole day is crazy to me
>>40091896I don't give a fuck about Tempus, but you coming in here to shit is tiresome, Nijisis.
>>40091950If you says so nijinigger. Say it with me. nijinigger. Chinks. Trannies and troons. Not this lukewarm "nijisis" "nijifag" shit, you can't even muster real insults to your side.
>>40091947Yeah well, Reddit has never been about holding conversations. It's not good for it and never was. It's just a content dump.
>>40091714Aia must have a skitzo constantly rating her daily.I refuse to believe enough Japanese viewers even know who she is to get her that high.
WE HAVE A THOT SLAYER HERE!https://twitter.com/StreamsCharts/status/1609233056480784390/photo/1
>>40091130I'm curious if every subreddit is actually reclining a bit because covid is receding
>>40091714No surprises with Yugo as first, but Nina and Aia? They're annoying, sure, but so bland that I'd find it easier to just forget about them rather than hate them. Is there a deeper reason here?Then there's Hex, which makes sense since he's shamelessly China-pandering. But then Vox shouldn't be very far behind. Although considering that Reimu is up next, and the reason is most definitely the Vox drama, I guess this site likes Vox.
>>40092044No? Covid or not redditors would never leave their homes.
>>40091947>I know it's not everything but the fact that a single global thread reaching bump limit has more comments than the entire reddit in a whole day is crazy to meThat doesn't sound right though, like it outright sounds inaccurate.
>>40091994Keep chimping out, retard. It's cute.
>>40091836Depends on your pov.She actually acknowledged the complains of her Day 1 member, and it was during that stream that she set rules for herself such as "No 1-on-1, only group collab, not her on channel, not much interaction on twitter"Alas, the old man cock was too strong, and everything change after the break
>>40092021>1 weekAmuruth has 33.6M hours for 2022 and Ironmouse has 21M
>>40089518People want Gura back. Hell i want Gura back. Untill then she'll continue being a clip monster
>>40092021What do any of these females do on stream?
I just got online and checked vrabi. You can’t be serious right? Nina’s doing a begging stream?>1 SC = 1 Foot RevealJesus christ just graduate them
>>40092044I doubt it, redditors are probably more attached to that site than the neets in 4chan since it actively rewards you for being a yes man or cringy larper
>>40089518Hey for once clipfags are doing a service by keeping her name in the algo
>>40092139ASMR, hot tub stream, react to YT vids, superchat reading with whiteboards. its fucking degenarate
>Omega is dead (fired?)>EN3 will not have Omega interventionOK now I'm excited for EN3
>>40092139don't the replay their old streams to get these numbers?
No but seriously, are there really people here that are insinuating that Tempus had zero impact on the HoloEN branch ? Really ?
>>40092197I feel I rarely see gaming streams on Twitch or it's just my imagination
>>40092197This is why i never take anyone seriously when they call minecraft zatsudans low effort when the alternative is so much worse.
>>40092044Well here are some of the more popular ones on the site. Post-covid seems like mostly a recline or stagnation.https://subredditstats.com/r/awwhttps://subredditstats.com/r/askreddithttps://subredditstats.com/r/newshttps://subredditstats.com/r/gaming
>>40090111They all cheated on her with Towa and wouldnt shut about how much cooler she was on the karaoke, CHADcast will be taking a break until further notice most likely
>>40092232nijisisters would die for tempus any day of the week
>>40092217Omegatron is usually revived for a new generation
>>40092217there are multiple upper management people including Yagoo who are homobeggarswe will get homo whores
>>40092217He's already left his stinking mark on the branch. The delayed as fuck EN3, the fact that there is no fucking way newbies will be able to get away with (or even want to get away with)ignoring their tempiss senpais, it's already done and dusted.
Since we are just shitposting and little to no value is happening, tell me guys how you been doing?
to show you anons why that place is a nijinigger den that you SHOULDN'T take seriously, here are the top vtubers across all companies, mel being the #1 among holos is #32 among all chuubas kek
>>40092232It's stupid to say it's not an impact. The right question is how big is the impact of Tempus for EN and what kind of impact that they do
>>40092232It's obvious that HoloENs main problems have always been HoloEN. Why are you so desperate to argue about Tempus? People have identified their issues and why they'd cause recline long before Tempus showed up.
>>40092287I don't watch Vox but from what I have read here, I feel the dude would be much happier streaming Runescape and Dwarf Fortress. Would've been a good fit in Tempus ngl
>>40092337Sick and drunk, but at least i got an excuse to avoid my retarded cousins over NYE
>>40092403He would be poor and have no one to groom.
>>40092232They are actually the reason Hololive didn't crash harder, bringing in a HUGE amount of new people and breaking down the sexist gender segregation which cleansed the fanbase of toxic unicorn incels.
>>40092337I feel strangely happy after yesterday's double whammy of MuFauBae streams.
>>40092437So true, have an upvote
>>40092375>don't stream and slowly recline>tempus shows up>recline accelerates>THE RECLINE WAS ALWAYS THERE TEMPISS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THISbaffling. just baffling, it's like saying some obese fuck was on his way to dying anyway so we can't prove the bullet in his skull killed him, he might have just coincidentally died when he got shot
>>40092403stfu
>>40089566Council 2.0 would be fine just to keep things going with bigger collabs and shit and fill the time with more streams. Honestly I would just prioritize real hololive fans (especially pre-Myth ones) over super talented bitches who cringe at idea of playing anime woman for the loser weebs as a job. What I would love is aspiring musician with good attitude to shame Mori by getting more popular in every way.
>>40092340>Nara Haramaung at the topKusa
>>40092340holy KEK
>>40092403No he's VERY happy with the money and attention. He'd just also like to stream his retarded autism games because at the end of the day, he is some nerd who accepted larping as an anime character, there's autism in all male vtubers, there are no chads here.
>>40092328I've thought about this and I don't see how they'd hired fauna if the homos really are yagoo's pet project. I'm optimistic, maybe we'll get 2/5 good chuubas.>>40092337I'm at my parents' for christmas vacations. My mother's having a really bad OCD episode but other than that all's fine.
>>40092489Stop being a retard, anon. It's just sad at this point.
>>40092553Kys sister
>>40092500Asking for a EN musician more popular than Mori is like asking for a JP musician more popular than Suisei.
>>40092553It's funny how you never refute anything, just call people retard and shitposter like it means something
>>40087992because now Alpha is the one who is in command
>>40092091I mean I'm just going off the website. It says it has a total average of 1566 and the recent days are lower around 1300 a dayish
>>40092533>I've thought about this and I don't see how they'd hired fauna if the homos really are yagoo's pet projectThey hired her years ago. Besides, let's be honest, they probably had Bae on lockdown for hiring once they saw she was a homofag. The perfect trojan horse for future plans. They just assumed no western woman would have any hangup about streaming with males and got blindsided by Fauna.
>>40092522>there's autism in all male vtubers, there are no chads here.At least I want an autist like Kuzuha rather than Vox
>>40092553Show your tits and we will all agree with you
>>40092615>Refuse fantasy posts made without evidence.Sure thing, anon. Neck yourself.
>>40092636Well just remember 4chan is also samefag central. Look at this thread with it's 581 posts and 97 posters.
>>40092642a Kuzuha type EN would not survive in the western scene. Most people watch fleshtubers for vidya content and streams.
>>40092091Reddit isn't used for chatting. It's used as an image and content rehosting dump first and foremost.
>>40092678>>40082388
>>40092678>>40092653
>>40092696Like that fag that keeps trying to talk about Tempus 24/7 like they're relevant.
>>40092819>40092588>40092615>40092653>40092774>40092808Same poster btw.
>>40090548If IRyS liked off-collabs she would do them with JP mems all the time, her nihongo is native level and she's also a singer and anime otaku no reason she wouldn't get along with them but for some reason she barely did anything with JP's, I've heard she never invited Mori into her house either.
>>40092696Yeah like I said i know comment count in and of itself doesn't paint the whole picture, but it's still pretty wild to me
>>40092894She got fucked by Watame in Hokkaido for two days.
>>400897993?
>>40092879>not a new IP
>>40092968Thas right.
Gachikois are essential for Hololive and are neededUnicorns are dumb retards who would deflect like Nijifags just to hate on Tempus without realizing
>>40090660probably BAE pushed her to it
>>40093034Go make a catalog thread about it.
>>40092894Speaking of IRyS, she's playing Not Overwatchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dcYTMuL44U
>>40093034>nijisister>ESLevrrrrytime
>>40093066dont need to, this thread has become one
>>40093085The reply chain was probably started because of that
>>40093034Christ just stop posting. Very woman of you to insist on having the last say when people dropped the topic. You can't "win"" internet arguments.
>>40093034>Gachikois >Unicorns fucking hell in my eyes you guys are the same
>>40093034>just to hate on Tempus without realizingwithout realizing what?
>>40093113It was. The discussion was "why is IRyS playing a turbo debuff game when she could hang out with council"
2 hours to go.I become giddy thinking about them.
>>40093085She has a very distinctive mark to clear with this>5.8k late night OW guerilla by AmeSurely a 6k floor streamer would get more?
>>40093240me too bro. I love them so much
>>40092968
>>40092340why do they hate coco and haachama tho?
>>40093349brought the EOPs
>>40093408and? is not like it affected nijisanji
>>40093349holos who damaged hololive's image the most, and by that I mean massively damaged it, in their eyes at least.I think with coco's graduation and haachama becoming more normal people forgot the kind of stuff those two have done
>>40093315The saviors of HoloEN
>>40093143But they are not the same thing. Almost every vtuber with more than 5 fans has a gachikoi, not everyone is a unicorn. I mean lyger is a gachikoi and Matsuri is the last person a unicorn would pick.
>>40090556Why is she not in Japan together with other girls anyway? I mean I wouldn't expect her to care enough about hololive to take the effort needed to meet Polka irl but still it's funny that she's the only one out of this event, even Sana came for fucks sake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERkq6blKdDUWhat the fuck
>>40093510Did her travel coincided with her pet dying???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVMQjBsXKO8
btw to the anon who was asking about the popularity thing, here are the votes for festival who is the #1 disliked in comparison to mel who is the #1 liked and had a total of 76734 with 59514 liked and 17220 disliked
>>40093595>almost 200k dislike votes jesas...
So anyone have big event calendar for January?
>>40093586Lol so she will only stream if it's required huh.
>>40093586>Overlapping offcollab MKI mean, sponsorsed stream, but....
>>40093554what about it, anon? shes been mentioned before and has a collab with kiara soon. I think Fauna has commented about her stream about Fauna. dunno about her corpo, but she seems legit as far as vocal knowledge goes
>>40093725is still funny that her most popular stream is the voice acting kronii
>>40091890it looks like they have some minimum stream hours requirement to filter out the rare event channels
>>40093430Not sure what Haachama has done besides make some disgruntled Haatons by changing her content repeatedly.
>>40093575Even with timecat's passing it never sounded like she had any plans since it died right after she returned from a break. Fauna mumei had holiday breaks and took off to JP secretly and Bae can go between aus and japan without anyone noticing
>>40093595>>40093653With numbers like that I can only imagine it was basically ballot stuffed.
>>40093586Reminder that Smilegate chose this specific timeslot to have Kronii and Kiara shill this deadass game.
>>40093595so you're fucking telling me that almost 300k people voted on this? in what real is that possible?
>>40093782It's a good thing that kronii's voice can be replicated without the soul crushing depression that kronii went through to get it
>>40093875raided by nijiniggers
>>40093875>300k peopleYou're probably off by two orders of magnitude. People can vote as often as they want.
>>40093797well it's not like that she's HATED hated, her split is about 110k votes with 49% like and 51% dislike there is a bit of numberniggatry as well given that...well unfortunately haachama has only gotten 70k subs this year, which is unironically unheard of.so it's not exactly "hate" on matsuri's level for example where she's getting flamed to hell and back
>>40094012oof. At least Matsuri doesn't obsessively egosa
>>40090111>>40090362It's New Year. As an Asian (Singfag), in my experience, you don't get a say when it comes to family reunion. This is likely even truer when she has been living with, and being taken care of, by her grandmother.In all seriousness, though, the MK is probably too early for her as well. She extremely rarely wake up at 9:30AM JST unless she absolutely must, and given that they are staying far from her home, there is travel time to be taken into account as well. That doesn't sound like something someone who sleeps at 5-6AM would love to take part of
>numberfagging hates at some dogshit site barely anyone goes toslow day huh?
>>40093944I couldn't vote more than once though, maybe if you have a dynamic IP...or bots?
>>40094109Yeah I'm honestly more surprised the Council girls are waking up that early
>>40094117we love lies and slander here
>>40094109>She extremely rarely wake up at 9:30AM JSTShe does all the time since she's been camping Gura's timeslot
>>40094152Unless they changed things you could vote once a day.
https://twitter.com/AvielBasin/status/1609679777387974659 based?
>>40094117nothing is happening reallyhere's mori as the most "disliked" en on there>>40094205that website is a shitty nijinigger dwelling anyway so it doesn't really matter but I didn't know that
>>40093875You can vote every day, and I am sure people can get past that limit too,
>>40093554I have her playing in the background and it's the strangest case of ESL I've ever heard. She keeps calling IRyS's voice erotic, but she pronounces it "roe-tick"
>the fucking single mom chuuba made more sc in 2022 than two holomem
>>40094109You don’t even gotta explain anon. These retards have been told multiple times that IRyS has been offcollabing with them ALL trip behind the scenes. She’s been part of outings for like 5 out of 6 days and had 2 FULL DAYS together with them shopping, karaoke and dining out. And they will still go on about “omg is she antisocial? Does she hate them? Why is she not offcollabing?”They’re even worse than threadreaders. They can’t even be bothered to learn basic information from streams or even CLIPS for that matter
>>40094159I guess technically there are numbers there
>>40094383Pioneer in her "gimmick" I guess.
>>40094383Well damn, good for her. I wonder how much is from anon
https://youtu.be/5Jq4PoBhHaE>even though the song went viral and it was a hit, she still got scolded for itand people say management care about numbers kek
>>40094399You don't understand anon, they're just like my teachers back in elementry school. I see them during the stream and when it's over I assume they do nothing with their lives until I see them again
>>40094227The person hes replying to is a typical twitter tranny. > waaaah they dont want MALE vtubers because gender Who gives a shit. There are plenty of other options for that faggot. Not everyone needs to have them
>>40094478Cover used to YOLO it before the holocaust and the chinkout. Now they're so anal.
>>40093586Japan has thing called idol culture huh
>>40094478I mean, they can be right. Susan's a whore. For example Gura's animation is shadowbanned and won't even show up when you search for it. Seriously try "Shark'd". You'll get people reacting to it.
>>40094399>>40094533More like most of them are only there for a couple weeks and if she wants to do a stream, why not take the extremely rare opportunity to make it an in person collab. Yeah she went out with them two times, that's cool, but it would honestly be better if she just chose to take the day off than to stream right after them and choose not to join them.
>>40093857Fauna does fine in this timeslot it'll be OK
>>40094383Risu and Iofi used Sociabuzz/Streamlabs until July cause Indos could not superchat in YT before then so the superchat ranking is pretty awkward. I'll try to find out how much Risu and Iofi got before July in streamlabs
>>40094478I do think a good back and forth of restriction from the company with the talents pushing back on those restrictions can be healthy thing when it comes to creative content. Finding the right balance of not being too restrictive vs unrestrained freedom e.g. Kson is the tricky part, and at the moment it leans a bit towards the "too restrictive" side
>>40094160The only one who doesn't generally wake up early, if Cover doesn't fuck their sleep schedule, is Mumei. Yes, Bae has overslept, but that's only when she's retarded and doesn't sleep properly the previous night.
>>40093586Wouldn't this be a bit early for Kiara ? She is still in Japan
>>40094762Jenma probably woke up her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERkq6blKdDUOphelia is talking about IRyS today!