/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Don't mind me, I'm here to observe seething subhuman

>>40003339
You can blame the nijiniggers for that. Their male vtuber have insanely high viewership and Cover wants that. What they don't seem to realize though is that most of those female viewers are from China.

Me nigga

Robechan and Suityan raw sex on stage

we got a unicorn, a tourist, and niji mention. the trinity has arrived thus the thread is complete

>>40003339
Sora and Yagoo want it. Don't like it, watch another company. 2023 is for Unity

>>40003513
it's funny how you guys say this and yet you guys are probably seething just as much over the fact that us unicorns are preventing true unity between holostars and hololive... so long as we're here, there will never be a full member collab with the homos involved and I keep seeing homos crying and seething about it

>>40003746
ok welcome to the 5 percent, it doesn't change the fact that the average holofan will never care aboout them

>>40004009
i know you’ll be seething anyway, but most holostars fans don’t really care if collabs happen or not, and don’t mind some of the hololive girls not being interested. please don’t think “OH NO NO NO UNIKEKS” posters in the catalog are actual fans and not just shitposters trying to rile people up.

>>40004009
Observed

>>40003979
who said sora wants it? she's just the most respected holo and therefore her promoting holostars is a safe bet cause it's unlikely for her to develop many antis... it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out (and p.s, so long as there's a single holo who doesn't want to collab with the homos, you'll never get true unity, be realistic... it's not gonna happen)

>stars get their own segregated stream
>this anon goes into it on his own accord and gets offended
go back and stick to the girls stream

>>40004222
shit you could have fooled me, I don't think there has been a single tempiss stream without a superchat mentioning the girls

>>40003339
>Separate Concerts
>A few Collab song covers that were posted years ago
>Faggots lose their minds

I’m so glad I’m not a virgin, imagine having whores occupy your minds like this.
The CrossCollab songs mogged whatever the fuck the Hololive concert put out anyway.

>>40004310
nigga they were in the main hololive stream... did you even watch the concert? if they got their own seperate stream and weren't involved with the main event then i wouldn't care

>>40004437
nigga who cares if there were seperate concerts if they weren't kept seperate... the homos were still in the main hololive concert... (also lets not talk about the irony of the people who watch male vtubers calling others faggots)

>>40003339
I... don't think many people was bothered by them... One thing is not watching them because they are not your cup of tea, and another thing is malding because they appear on an official stream.

>>40003705
there he goes again, the eternal ENtard

>>40004569
Seems you didn't get the memo lmao

>>40004310
Wrong, they pushed the faggots into the middle of the real hololive stream. Most hololive fans would be happy to ignore their existence, but forcing the issue like this is how you create antis.

>>40004569
Is this you anon ? Good to know. Observed

>>40004576
>I... don't think many people was bothered by them
Outside of the homo section the stream was gaining thousands of viewers per minute. During the homo section the growth flatlined. Considering how long the segment was that's tens of thousands of people that cared.

>>40004576
the JP side has some of the most dedicated antis out there, this is one of the first times the EN and JP antis have something to unify them... keep an eye on twitter friend... the backlash is gonna be something fierce, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out, especially cause every holo girl was involved, every anti is gonna get involved too

>>40004920
kek you wish

>>40004920
Interesting. Observed. Screenshotted. Gosh I should learn Japanese to see all the subhuman over there

>>40004920
They'll just get purged

>>40004222
I think you a retard, most starjp fan, the actual fan who have been with them before tempus don't even want holo collab.

how are antis real? just close your eyes and take the hate akasupas they send to you with rude messages.

>>40004837
>>40004920
That's worrying... I do not watch them because I don't think they have enough charisma, but I won't deny they exist like certain vtuber or hate them for that. But people literally posting hate words because of 10 minutes of screen time is really sad.

>>40005362
What is this? burgerland antis level.

>>40003339
When the males showed up on the stream I almost threw up.

>>40005444
What's sad is going to the one big corpo that became popular for having gender segregated pseudo-idols, and trying to force it to become like everything else.

>>40005444
HoloProductions has millions of viewers.
You’re bound to get a few schizos, most of the talents are trained to deal with it.

The funny thing is little spergs here waiting for their big JP anti anikis to send red hate akasupas.
Honestly some of you guys needed to be bullied harder in school.

>>40005656
n-no the scary JOP antis are TOTALLY gonna take down holostars and reclaim hololive by posting mean tweets! this time for sure!!!

>>40003339
mucho texto

>>40004282
She's literally performing songs with stars and constantly shows up in their streams. I think it's safe to say she wants them.to suceed

>>40003339
Cope and seethe, femcel. The boys put on a good show.

>>40005580
>I almost threw up.
and this is an anti? this is what the boys should be afraid of?

>>40003513
I am not ok with an attitude as patronizing as yours, beating down on people already on the floor is unnecessary.
Then again, I really can't blame you.

>>40003339
Awfully long tirade on dick and balls for someone who hates dick and balls

>>40003339
Aren't you guys tired of bitching about this? Who cares.

>>40003513
Make sure to not feed them the zoo food

>>40005626
>gender segregated
They used to collab with males from Niji and other corpos. It wasn't until the later girls made their own choice to not collab with males and then the collab ban on Stars was to protect them from antis (didn't work obviously) who felt like they were gonna get cucked (and then get to witness boyfriend yabs over and over anyway).

>>40006253
LMAO none of the Stars have anything to fear from anyone /here/. JP antis makes antis here look like a bunch of whiny women

>>40003339
>numberfag stunned 'valley of holopro' didn't happen
>immediately change to appeal to emotion

happy new year, anon

>>40006439
It's hilarious how the valley didn't happen so all the numberfags changed their tune to "grass it flatlined!!"

>>40005088
someone clearly doesn't go on twitter... you're dumb if you think that isn't gonna happen

>>40006344
None of that contradicts anything I said.

>>40006667
Show us an influential tweet then.
Not your 1 retweet 1 like tweet. But an anti with at least 10k just like Kronii's influential tweets that didn't translate into ccv.

They need to put the boys out there where people can see them and that big stream is the perfect place. 2023 will be the year of unity.

>>40006432
you... you do realize this was a JP event right? if the JP antis don't care about a JP event then what do you think they'd care about?

>>40006883
>They need to put the boys out there where people can see them
Why? They're a failure because nobody wants to watch them, not because of lack of exposure.

>>40006860
nigga i never said antis get 10k likes... but there is that one famous tweet with like a thousand likes calling kronii a bitch after she started colabing with tempiss

>>40003339
me

>>40006883
my man they've been promoted non stop for years... every hololive fan knows holostars exists, they just don't care...

There is nothing more embarrassing than the tantrums of weak-willed men who believe their world is ruined over the sight of a singing twink.

>>40007060
Interesting. Show me the tweet.

>>40007190
I don't know, getting your kicks out of infecting and ruining other peoples hobbies is pretty embarrassing.

>>40007060
Yeah cuz all of the antis with only likes and retweets not even reaching the 100s are gonna get anywhere.
Here's another one then, show the 2ch/5ch thread when the stars showed up. Were they sperging out as hard as /#/?

>>40003339
Literally all girls that were with the boys on stage singing had collabed with males before this board even existed
They paired them up specifically for this reason.

If you legitimately think a FBK JP fan will go anti because she sang with Oga after their 2 year history of having streams together you're just showing how much of a newfag you are.

>>40007038
Stop listening to the voice in your head. They are all talented streamers, as for the exposure, if they can freely interact with all the girls like the males in Niji then they would become huge real fast. Like Pekora giving some exposure to Moona.

>>40007190
>tantrums of weak-willed men who believe their world is ruined over the sight of a singing twink.
kek

>>40007174
I run into Holofags who have no fucking idea there's a male branch all the damn time. It's not surprising when the girls act like mentioning them is speaking Voldemort's name.

>>40007436
>Stop listening to the voice in your head.
>Homos can incline by leaching from the females
Ironic. They've been trying this for years, they're still pointless shitters.

>>40003513
based

>>40007331
ok then why have there been no homo collabs n the EN side for like 2 months? it really only takes a handful of antis taking things too far for us to make progress... do you think they banned holostars collabs originally because everyone hated them? no... it was because of a handful of anti's who took things too far and made the girls feel unsafe... and it's the same thing here, the amount of haters is irrelevant, the relevant part is how far they take their hate, and the more these collabs happen, the further and further people will take it

>>40006667
again: kek, you wish
i’ll be waiting eagerly to see the epic JP anti posts people will totally screenshot to own the homobeggars, so please repost them when you see them, okay?

>>40007436
then why does tempiss still get no views? they did plenty of leeching... why does no one care about them?

>>40007601
>muh leech
They're just helping eachother out, they're supposed to do that since you know, they're in the same company and all.

>>40007782
nigga literally just check twitter, you sound delusional because you're so explicitly incorrect... twitter is a secon home to the anti's just like 4chan, the difference is that they can actually message the girls

>>40007783
>then why does tempiss still get no views?
the real answer is that there is no market for "brotubers"

>>40007823
>They're just helping eachother out
>eachother
You faggots are delusional. This isn't mutually beneficial, the girls get literally nothing positive from the homos. In fact, the homos hurt the girls for a very small gain in return. Hard to think of a better example of leeching

>>40007277
Oh no! Penis! It's all over!

>>40003339
The actual antis that actually will do something already left anon, ever since Holostars have a spot in the Hololive Super Expo. If you really don't like them, its ok to just Mute them

>>40003979
Sora is the last pillar of idol culture in Holo, so it’s ironic seeing someone mention that she wants unity. As long as she’s here, “true unity” is not going to happen.

You can tell its the same guy because of the overuse of ellipses in every post

>>40007878
could you please show them to me?

>>40007823
which would be valid if it worked... they don't actually gain more viewers from that... they just gain more haters...for example compare tempiss a month after debut to now... they certainly haven't gained new viewers from collabing with the girls... but they totally gained a ton of new haters, it's almost as if the main hololive demographic is there for the girls and generally don't like the stars shoved down their throat, they can exist seperately and i wouldn't care at all... but they refuse to stay seperate so here we are

>>40007714
You can say this again if they don't collab for a year just like JP did.
2 months is literally nothing lmao.

>>40004282
Even if you somehow believe Sora is corporate-mandated.... There are Fubuki and Matsuri too which both are pretty influential.

But honestly, she of all people should be the least resistant, she have been in this business for almost 6 years now.

>>40008161
>it's almost as if the main hololive demographic is there for the girls
tempiss would have done better if they were made to appeal to girls that don't watch hologirls. get your own audience and stop leeching.

>>40007984
They can give back to the girls when they become huge, you know, like all those guys in Niji. It's not working out right now because most of the girls literally act like Holostars don't exist.

>>40007878
nta but just post the fucking tweets, you absolute brainlet.
the burden of proof is on your thumbsucking ass

>>40008106
uhh no they didn't...you guys clearly don't use twitter and it shows... the more the stars show up, the more antis they gain

>>40008172
ehh not really... two months is quite a bit when you consider it was basically a weekly thing, there should be at least 6-8 more homo collabs out based on how frequently they were done

>>40008344
I've gone on twitter..... they love them.... its over.........................

>>40008332
>when they become huge
>Literal delusional homobeggar
You can't be serious, there's no way this is a real opinion.

>>40008463
why did you post a blank image how do you do that

>>40008344
uhhh… i was just on twitter and all the JP antis are actually apologizing to the stars and saying that they’re fucking based?

>>40008131
You are actually mentally ill.

Sora would not visit a random fucking Magni Dezmond Minecraft stream, a Minase Rio karaoke stream, attend Aruran and Roberu's holiday call ins and attend Axel's birthday. There's probably so much more I don't know about.

Even if you hate the homos, it's hard to deny Sora is indifferent, much less has disdain for the homos. She's actively encouraging them.

>>40003339
give me old pizzadad

>>40004009
Ogey. You're seething so hard, it's almost love. Pretty gay, anon.

>>40008332
>It's not working out
Good to see a homobeggar finally admitting this.

>>40003339
Considering not a single homostar can break 4digit viewers, even if every single viewer wanted it which is a hard stretch its barely 0.5%

>>40008505
Welp gentlemen there you go, the JP antis have failed time to step up, step out of /vt/ and let your voices be heard

>>40008332
>when they become huge, you know, like all those guys in Niji.
males become huge by pandering to a female audience which is why stars will never become huge.

>>40008505
that's not true... I absolutely guarentee that isn't true... maybe some people were pretending to be antis so that they can say they forgave the star, the same way everyone who was "kneeling to tempus" for the niji collabs were just homobeggars pretending to be antis so they could pretend to have changed their minds... none of the actual antis liked that... I will bet money this is the same situation

>>40008848
anon… i’m sorry… the JP antis really were saying they were wrong and the stars are really cool guys who should be allowed to collab with the girls… i read it with my own two eyes…

The funniest part is, when it comes to the actual performances themselves, Cinema mogged the shit out of everything else on the Hololive side

>>40008918
no you didn't cause that's a lie... they could be the coolest people on the planet and the anti's would not care at all... if anything it's worst if they're cooler people cause that means it's more likely one of the hololive girls would hate a crush on them, the antis would prefer if they were boring, shitty people, which is how i know you are lying, them being cool people is a bigger reason to keep them away from the girls

>>40009117
i read it though? literally check twitter the JP antis are talking about it now

>>40009117
anon is right, I'm checking twitter right now... its nothing but positive things, people buying holostars merch....

>>40003339
Around 10-15k. Which is still a big number.

>>40007783
>>40007932
By maintaining 4view average. There is. I suggest taking your medicine.

I thought guys were supposed to support each other. Not this bitching and whining like 12 yr olds.

>>40008463
I'm not delusional. Niji has proven that they can boost the males to success with enough support. Unfortunately the boys in Stars don't have that.
>>40008824
Pandering what? Everyone just play games all day.

>>40009493
>By maintaining 4view average.
>barely breaking 900 on a good day
this is like someone bragging about making 6 figures when they're only make 100,000 pre tax with a take home of 65,000.

>>40009519
Because unicorns are trannies that wish they were women to get close to the girls to fulfill their CGDCT fantasies

>>40009245
I honestly think that the whole "vesper got suspended for raping ina" rrat is more believable then you telling me that the anti's think holostars are cool people and want them to collab with the girls. those are diametrically opposed, half of the reason anti's exist is because holostars are funny and talented (they did pass an audition after all) and therefore people feel threatened by them and think the girls will fall for them...

>>40009590
>>Barely breaking 900 on a good day
I see you like living under rocks with such outdated information. And yeah, they're pretty well-off

>>40009614
i’m glad you think they’re funny and talented. but bro, i’m literally reading JP anti tweets about how their minds are changing on the holostars RIGHT NOW.

>>40009377
are you just checking the holostar's twitter threads because that's not gonna tell you anything... that's where all the fans congregate, anti's tend to tweet at them seperately

I don't care if they collab over music, I actually liked the song with Rikka and SoarAZ but I don't want to see regular collab streams with them.

>>40009678
>anti's tend to tweet at them seperately
then show me how you're able to effortlessly sort through the millions of shit tweets and spam to pick out the 3 antis

>>40009603
>unicorns are trannies
It always confuses me that you faggots try to push this narrative when twitter troons are the only people that actually like tempiss.

>>40007190
Yeah there is, men that defending those singing twinks because they believe they are their "bros" (not parasocial btw)

>>40009814
Trannies hate male. Idk, both group seems similar enough

>>40009674
you are being tricked by homostar fans pretending to be antis so that they can then pretend to change their minds about the stars. it happened on here a few weeks ago when the tempussies got permission to collab with nijisanji, a bunch of fans started pretending to anti solely so they could pretend to change their minds about being an anti, none of the real anti's liked this, the youtube video is already sitting at over 1000 dislikes, and considering you need an extension to see those, it's not like it's people just bandwagoning, thousands of people seperately dislike it

i like hololive and holostars

>>40009773
nigga look up what you want to see, try typing tempiss into twitter for instance, or homostars

>>40009908
>Trannies hate male.
But anti-ing the homos isn't about hating males, it's about wanting female entertainers that pander to a straight male audience without faggots being crammed in.

>>40009814
Your constant bitching and insecurity are gay, anon.

>>40009814
>Narrative
Lemao. Because it's a fact, isn't it? Who else hates men but unironic homosexuals and assblasted women?

>>40009920
huh, i dunno. i’m looking at these JP anti accounts and they’re all changing their minds on the holostars and apologizing? i’m literally reading the tweets right now.

Why is this thread reads like a bunch of 12 yo faggots talking to each others

>>40009997
Your oshi will and never will have sex with you. Accept that.

>>40009997
That is literally what it is, """woman""" any other hoops you like to jump through?

>>40004437
Oh wow you got molested at a young age so you think you're superior to supposed virgins! Having sex regularly doesnt hold any value anymore in such a degenerate society

>>40006860
>getting 70k likes over multiple hours means that you should have 70k watching a one hour stream
retard

>>40010093
Obviously, she'll never even know I exist. Why are you faggots incapable of thinking beyond your insane "unicorn" strawman?

>>40010050
>homosexuals hate men
Huh?

>>40010293
Kek, they're tying themselves in knots with this bullshit.

>>40010265
Kek, got a reaction from you still.

Gotta give the viewers a toilet break once in a while

>>40009997
>I want the camgirl experience, but not really because then she’s a whore
You watch for blue balls or something?

>>40010093
What part of that implies wanting to fuck his oshi? Are you that buck-broke that the only way your tranny coom brain can process not wanting to see talentless faggots on the same stage as real entertainers is through the lines of a touch starved autistic waste of carbon such as yourself?

>>40010451
>talentless
kek, astel and izuru are better performers than 90% of hololive

>>40010489
And yet they aren't funny how sub count kinda counts

>>40010451
Thanks for biting the fucking bait, retard. Your bitching is as homo as the faggots you hate.

>>40010451
>men can’t have skill or talent because they have penises

>>40010619
Cope and seeth harder faggot

>>40010522
>Popularity=quality
Numbernigger spotted

>>40010635
Not as vtubers they cant sorry sis back to troontwitter ya go

>>40010619
>>40010370
>Joke's on you, I was only pretending to be retarded!
Wow, you so cool anon.

>>40010645
So what other non-biased way do you measure popularity look up non-biased before replying because I know your a massive autistic faggot.

>>40010756
I know, thanks a bunch.

>Who wants this
Me.
I love all tubers, especially the singing ones, they are cozy and pleasant to listen to.

>>40010873
It was pretty fun!

>>40003339
90% of Hololive fans

>>40010293
>>40010344
>The trannycorn gets defensive as I speak the truth
Like clockwork.

>>40010794
There is no non-biased way to objectively measure quality. Popularity, though, is absolutely not only dependent on quality. Inane bullshit gets popular all the time due to luck, timing, marketing, etc. Similarly, things that are high quality get overlooked constantly, just cause they aren't given the right exposure at the right time. Or can you tell me with a straight face that everything that is popular is automatically the best, and everything less popular is inferior?

I can’t respect male vtubers because it’s gay. Admiring their singing skills or whatever is like sucking their penis. I’m a straight guy so I can’t do it because if I did I’d be a gay faggot, and I swear to god, I’m not fucking gay. I don’t want to even see a man, ever, because that would make me gay. Everyone who tells me to try watching men is trying to make me gay, every female streamer that collabs with males is grooming me into a fucking homosexual. I’m not fucking gay. Stop trying to force this gay coed shit in my face and down my throat, fucking faggots. Stop trying to make me gay for anime men, fuck off, I’m straight and that’s never going to change.

>>40011155
this sounds pretty gay anon. you sure you don’t like penis?

>>40011155
Thinking about being gay when looking at men is being gay. Embrace your faggotry.

>>40010794
Nta but actually watch their 3D performances you faggot. If you think talent solely measured by numbers then kys. I wont say Astel Izuri is a better talent than the majority of Hololive but the 2 sure have better 3D performances output then your generic 3D anniversary live from the girls

>>40011155
Based, the faggots watch the homos are the same faggots that watch fujo anime

>>40011136
Name literally one was an option give and yet you chose to cope with this blog post instead?

>>40011449
I'm sorry you're so ESL that you're incapable of reading more than 2 sentences in English, anon.

>>40011265
Numbers are indictive of talent yes. Popular things aren't bad because they are popular you hipster faggot and no I won't watch shitty faggots and contribute to giving them views

>>40011449
Counter him, then.

>40011521
>Still refuses to give an answer
>ESL cope
No more (you)s for you faggot

>>40011206
>>40011250
Stop forcing this homobeggar bullshit up my ass, faggots. I’m not fucking gay. Let me watch my cute girls be lesbians and sing in cute outfits in peace while you go frot your gay dicks in the Homo orgy corner with all your other homobeggar fags.

>>40003339
>Only 5-10 percent wanted Holostars there
If this was true there would not be 170k watching which is higher than Myth btw, you fucking retard

>>40011551
I don't need to he cant actively supply an alternative thats on him not me

>>40011600
>Name literally one was an option give
>Anon thinks this is proper English

Because they are YAGOO's favorite holostars, they are sold by force with the president's authority.
They have no chance to win as a male vtuber group, and they are mediocre and boring group with no gems like Kuzuha or Kenmochi. A pathetic group that no one wants.

>40011670
>Still esl coping
Twittertroons really are less than subhuman kek

>>40003705
?

>>40011551
The premise is that they're worse and that they're unpopular because of that, despite being with cover and despite there being very popular male vtubers, there's simply no reason for the stars to be unpopular if they're actually that good

>>40011608
If you say so, anon. Still pretty gay that they affect you this much.

>>40011794
>there's simply no reason for the stars to be unpopular if they're actually that good
they are good but they aren't marketed properly. look at how many of the girls have porn of them drawn on a daily basis and then marketed on social media compared to the men.

>>40011794
That doesn't give a proper counter argument.

>>40011926
>The reason they are unpopular is because no one but fujoshits would watch them
So basically act like nijiniggers

>>40003339
>Actually I have the opinion of the majority, only 5-10 percent wants Holostars there, while 170k people watch their performance instead of leaving
The absolute cope from you retards

>>40011794
>No reason for the stars to be unpopular
I can name a few
>Poorly advertised upon debut, crippling them hard
>Essentially started in isolation with no direction given as to what they should do
>A male idol group released as a companion to a female idol group doesn't really garner the viewers that the latter has at the start
>Started out extremely poor with no money to do much

>>40003339
I do.

>>40003705
Most of the male vtuber viewers of Niji-sanji JP are Japanese, with a minority of non-Japanese viewers; EN may have a large non-Japanese Asian audience, but JP basically has a majority of JP viewers.
There are also many female viewers, but also many male viewers.

>>40003339
Can't wait for 1 of these faggots to kill himself so we can get rid of these parasites.

>>40011997
>He thinks all 170k people stayed right in there seat and watched instead of just muting the stream and doing something else while the faggots got to leech
Holy cope and some of you cunts are actually yelling numbers dont matter in this very thread

I can't take it anymore...
I guess it's time to create my own vtuber company
I will personally cast every single girl to check if they are true,pure Idol...and then they will sing and dance for me..ooh.ehh...T_T

>>40012116
What a sad life you must have.

>>40004920
Sure thing Gabe

>>40003339
This is basically the return of a very nested schizo if else if

>>40011155
this is the gayest thing I've read all year kek

>>40012017
It's been more than 3 years, the girls didn't start as fucking superstars either, they all grew into the spotlight after they found their audience.
After the growth period of Roberu they all stagnated completely, they have basically reached their peak and they now have massive amounts of support from the company, so there is no cope for them being unpopular right now

>>40011926
>they aren't marketed properly
Same copium since 2020
>>40012017
They got more support from 2020 onward

Some people seem to think that everyone knows Holostars, that's wrong, everyone(the normies) knows Hololive but they don't know about Holostars, only Holofans know about them, and Holofans don't give them a fair chance because most girls are ignoring them and the fans are mimicking their oshis. Tempus is doing well because only half of the EN girls are ignoring them while the StarsJP have like 90% of the girls acting like they're enemies that should never be interacted with.

>>40012833
>Tempus is doing well because only half of the EN girls are ignoring them while the StarsJP have like 90% of the girls acting like they're enemies that should never be interacted with.
*Vesper is doing well
*Because he is actually entertaining to a general audience
You should just stop with the copes, there is a reason why Vesper and Roberu are the most popular holostars and everyone else is mostly irrelevant, holostars would be doing good if everyone was on their level

Roberu's growth also came about through external connections, and that growth could not have occurred at Holostars alone.
In other words, the lack of signs of growth after three years of such support is more a problem with the talent themselves than with the company. What is most needed in male Vtubers is not idol activity but streamer-like activity, and Holostars does not have that talent. If you compare the male vtubers of Niji Sanji and the Holostars, the Holostars are honestly not interesting at all.

>>40012829
>Same copium since 2020
it hasn't changed since 2020. they're pushed as brotubers and it's failed. the en boys are pushed as brotubers and they're also failing. take the niji pill and promote male vtubers the way they're supposed to be promoted. to women and not dudes. male chuubas have to compete against the thousands of better webcam livestreamers who are more charismatic with a wider viewer base that isn't filtered through an anime avatar.

>>40007601
>they're still pointless shitters
i know right? they should ask ayame, aqua and subaru for pointers on how to leech properly
those collabs with nijimales sure paid off

>>40003339
Izuru, my beloved.

>>40013487
Blame those faggots and EN management, JP management wanted to target women.
>>40013573
You know that makes homos look worse because they can't leech properly.

>>40003339
Hololive productions include both hololive and holo stars they are just including there members in the end year event if you don't like it dont watch it majority of people watching aren't scizos even if they don't want it they won't care that it happened

>>40003339
And here we see the rare incel in his natural habbit. Seething on and only board about succesful males while touching his micro penis. The incel uses various strategies such as gaslighting and strawmans to compsenate for his micro penis.

>>40013224
>Roberu's growth also came about through external connections, and that growth could not have occurred at Holostars alone.
It was a variety of factors, but what's most important is that he was actualy entertaining enough to keep the momentum. Astel also had the same growth, but only for Apex and karaoke, which makes sense since his other content is shit.

>There are people spending the last day of 2022 crying about anime men.

>>40014481
>There are people spending the last day of 2022 crying about people crying about anime men.

>>40003339
For some baffling reason they want to have popular males like nijiJP. Even when it's proven to not be something their fans want or need.

>>40014752
>There are people spending the last day of 2022 crying about people crying about people crying about anime men.

>>40003339
I want this :)

>>40003339
>why make something i don't want? cater only to me and my male fragility i don't want to see males succeed cuz it reminds me that i'm a failure.

>>40008239
>influential
You do realize how retarded you sound right? These same Holos have been routinely collabing with and pushing Stars for years. If they were influential, how have they never converted another Holo? Why can't Sora, Suisei or Fubuki ever convince a Pekora, Miko or Subaru to perform with Holostars? To get unity and force your change requires breaking each of the Top Holos until everyone else falls in line. Cover will never force the girls to stop segregating which means as long as someone like Aqua has not graduated, Hololive will stay how it has been. It has nothing to do with the audience at the end of the day, it has to do with the girls. If the whims of an audience mattered then every Holo would run over and start sucking dick every time a Homobeggar harasses them. Hololive has already built too much a culture of CGDCT within the actual company itself and a lot of those women will never voluntarily give up that status quo.

>>40018569
cope

>>40021822
NTA, why do you think they have to convert other or force them to do things ? i don't think they ever push "you must collab with man or woman even" just Holostars is also part of Hololive production

>>40024376
Hes retarded and trying to grasp at anything. Pay him no mind.

>>40011155

>>40024376
This thread is literally about how Holostars was forced into Hololive which is seen as a huge win by people who want to force Hololive to change. What didn't happen was forcing any Holomems to collab with Stars because it's just the same ones who always collab and always will.

>>40010965
Completely untrue, if that was true then holostars would get more views, literally nobody watches them

>>40011661
Nigga what? You think 160k people would just leave? That’s the most retarded cope i’ve ever seen, at best people are indifferent to them

oof

>>40029745
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING INCELS NEED TO WATCH OUR BASED BOYS

>>40029745
>not even 10%

I want to cum on Izuru's thighs.

>>40008792
Not true. Roberu reaches 4views nearly every stream.

>>40031446
I don't remember writing this

>turning more hololive fans into holostars haters
They've succeeded with me in that regard.

>>40003339
Stars really live in you're guy's heads rent free. You act like this is some horrible offense when it's literally just people (male) showing up in a stream. You're not some marginalized victims because anime men were invited to collaborative section of an event.

>>40010083
Anon, this is a board for mentally stunted men that watch hags pretend to be little anime girls, why do you think everyone sounds like a mentally stunted 12 year old faggot? They actually feel like they've been slighted and that they have any leg to stand on with being offended. Nigga just don't watch and don't donate, it's fucking easy instead of sperging out like a fucking child.

>>40003339
most people did not think about it in particular because they don't have vt brainrot.

>>40033159
You're literally defending people inserting child pornography into children's cartoons.

>>40029745
>9k
I still don't understand why cover doesn't graduate the entire stars branch already, that ccv is embarrassing, at least separate them from holopro instead of hurting their brand with these failures

>>40003339
Got the wrong Aruran and no UPROAR and TEMPUS

>>40011155
>I can’t respect male vtubers because it’s gay
This but unironically. Male vtubers, bishounens, and all that prancing faggot crap is repulsive.

I'm never watching maletubers or chuuba's who collab with males and I'll do anything in my power to shit on both. Nothing else is relevant to me. I just want to watch cute girls. I didn't watch and will never watch anything with maletubers in it, pun intended.

>>40003339
>who wants this
contrairians

>>40036702
Fucking based

>>40008601
Not to mention she has visited Miyabi's stream when he was playing Animal Crossing

>>40004009
nice joke tell me another one

>>40004569
the girls were on the Holostars countdown channel too you fucking retard, why are you so mentally ill?

>>40029745
The problem with this comparison is they were live side by side. Obviously the Stars still wouldn’t come close if they weren’t competing against the girls but I imagine they’d still be higher. Meanwhile you have the free day 1 of NJU beating out bough combined on YouTube alone, but that’s what happens when you aren’t splitting the fan base.

>>40036524
If you can convince Yagoo

>>40042986
>splitting the fan base

>>40004673
It was kind of rude.

>>40032320
>anon starting out 2023 by admitting hes a weak willed easily manipulated loser
Grim.

>>40042986
girls may watch girl idols
men will never ever watch male idols. kuzuha is more of an e-celeb thing he is no idol

>>40044356
The only manipulated here is your mom

>>40044356
But your gaslighting doesn't work on me, fag

>>40043478
Regardless of how many are on either side, it still splits them. There would have been more viewers on a single stream.

>>40044831
>There would have been more viewers on a single stream.
Every time they put homos on holo's stream, its number dipped.

>>40044382
why even bring up kuzuha
hes just a dudebro streamer who sometimes sings
>>40044520
na it does, you'll be thinking about my post as the days go by, you're letting underage SEA children manipulate you, thats fucking sad

>>40045211
>hes just a dudebro streamer who sometimes sings
Exactly. They don't get presented as male idols.

>>40044921
Funny you say that because numbers didn't dip according to /#/ this time, so they changed arguments to "it just flatlined" instead.

>>40044382
Maybe if male idols acted like singers instead of flaming homosexual pretty-boys?
I'll watch a good male vocalist over a female vocalist, but not if he's prancing about like a fairy.

>>40045211
>>40045501
What is Chronoir?

>>40045667
What does that make Axel?

>>40044382
Then how come every man doesn't instantly skip out of the NJU streams whenever a man is on screen? The only people who wont actually watch that shit are schizo unicorns, and sadly they've been allowed to grow in the Hololive fanbase.

>>40044382
>>40045501
Why do you faggots keep bringing up Kuzuha when you don't know anything about him besides his numbers? He has explicitly called himself an idol, sure he isn't one 100% of the time but he does both streaming and idol work. Most of his male fans either don't mind or enjoy him doing both of those. He has even had his own solo concert and multiple idol live appearances.
Of course, you would know all of this if your only knowledge about him didn't come from /vt/.

>>40036524
Still raking in cash with merch sales. Still doing well enough to merit having them around.
Numberfaggotry wasn’t able to kill Holostars when they were 2views and it won’t be able to kill them now, try something else, idiot.