/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>39898511
>Hololive is only popular outside of japan, they said.
Nobody has ever said this.

>>39898511
>comiket, a huge expo for anime/manga in japan
>he didnt expect it to be filled to the brim with hololive shit
also JP > EN

>>39898511
>brand that specializes in parasocial relationship
>comiket, a place were said freaks are the consumers
>artists takes advantage of this to sell their porn
>???
>profit

>>39898511
>he thinks Comiket "popularity" is an indicator of anything when otaku-shit is a niche even in Japan

>>39898511
Wtf thats a lot of booths

wow i'm glad everyone loved fate/grand order and was socially accepted by everyone on the planet

>>39895982
stop spamming holobronie

>>39898688
>>39898662
>>39898654
holy cope
>>39898573
holy newfag, but OP has clearly spent too much time here so I can't blame you too much

>>39898662
forgot about niji banning the selling (possibly making) doujinshi porn of their talents

>>39899005
niji is literally in the OP pic

>>39898511
Oof the absolute state of nijikeks, isn't nijisanji supposed to be juggernaut in Japan?

>>39898511
96:306
18,000 yen at least?

What schizo is making all of these shit threads saying the same thing?
>>39898511
>>39897437
>>39899298

>>39898511
If it's popular in Japan then where the fuck are the erotic comics, there are bocchi erotic comics why hololive can't have the same

>>39899005
The context of the thread is Holo dominating the stalls
This post >>39898662 is an observation as to why
This one >>39899005 is an observation as to why Niji have fewer stalls

>>39899005
>The Holobrony lied as naturally as it breathed

>>39899752
some ban evading holofag

>>39898904
Holoboard, Holothread.
Seethe about it

>>39899091
The context of the thread is Holo dominating the stalls
This post >>39898662 is an observation as to why
This one >>39899005 is an observation as to why Niji have fewer stalls

>>39899752
Holoboard, Holothread
Seethe about it

>>39899879
>an observation
again, にじさんじ is literally in the OP pic so why would anyone keep running that lie that niji banned it

>>39899835
are those nipples? In my sfw board?! Reeeeeeeeeeee

>>39898511
Nijisanji is still twice more popular than holo in japan

>>39898511
oh nono nijikek status

>>39900088
retard
they banned the PORN
not the doujinshi
doujinshi =/= PORN
retard

>>39901232
>>39899835

>>39901130
>>39901232
Le nijicope

Is this Nijicope Central because they shit up /#/ and not much people are interested in NJU as the numbers say?

>>39901232
oh boy the semantics "own" when twitter, the comiket general, and someone in this very thread posted tables of their stuff

>>39898854
You think you're being smart but yes, other than the dumb haters, like the Nijifags who think Holo is less popular than Niji, everyone loves FGO

>>39901232
They didn't, retard. You're not even a threadreader but some heard from friend of friend who heard from anon who saw a reddit repost of a vt takes tweet faggot.

>>39901553
>everyone loves fgo
don't think they do. Just saying this to put niji down isn't going to change anything

>>39901232
You're fucking retarded, the brand-new H-Doujin by Kawaraya where Sister Claire gets mating pressed is literally being sold at Comiket.

>>39901553
Genshin is more mainstream and more popular than FGO but has less doujins at Comiket, sounds like clear proof that Comiket is meaningless

>>39901955
FGO is more popular than Genshin in Japan, looking at revenue.

>>39901955
because FGO is bigger than genshit on jaypee you goddamn mongoloid

774 has more booths than I exoected, I'm glad

>>39901955
Literally no one gives a fuck about Genshin in Japan.

>>39902089
>>39902117
>>39902275
Genshin Twitter engagement and stream views in Japan mog the shit out of FGO you seething Fatetards

>>39902317
Doesn't matter, Genshin gets less money than FGO in Japan. Remember that this is a capitalist world and stop coping.

>>39902317
twitter isnt exclusive to japan you retarded monkey

Why are Nijiniggers unable to accept being at the top with humility?

>>39898573
Yes they have, it's one of the earliest Nijicopes documented and is still echoed in /#/ to this day.

>>39898511
Nijis fan enthusiasm doko?

>>39902430
why can't holobronies discuss with facts instead of speculation?

That book where Subaru fucks Luna was pretty nice.

>>39902535
nijiniggers don't like nijisanji
they're just a bunch of contrarian faggots

>>39902535
>140K tickets sold for NJU yesterday. Numbers that allegedly put Holofes's ticket sales to shame
>no one talked about it outside /#/ and 5ch

>>39898511
Didn't Niji threaten to sue people over doujins?

>>39902601
wasnt the stream at 220k or something too?
>>39902614
they did, pointed above, not sure how strict it is
apparently there's some porn being sold

>>39902570
holobronies don't like vtubers
they're just ironic weebs latching onto trends and and otaku cred

>>39898511
this is an ironic weeb event so holoshit dominating is kind of lol

>>39902779
You don't even watch streams let alone the biggest event of the year, numbertrash

Niji Sanji has officially stated that publishing doujinshi is only a hobby. In other words, if they wanted to, they could punish sales at Comiket and other events. No one will make it because it is more risky than holo-living.
And as a company, they are bigger than the cover, so they have to be careful and can't do whatever they want.

>>39903051
They have to be so careful but they can stream from illegally modded handheld consoles

>muh numbers

>>39903049
the biggest event of the year was nijikoshien and yes I did watch it
Or are you talking about NJU which is a multiple day event?

>>39903051
>they have to be careful and can't do whatever they want
Careful of what? They can allow it if they want to, but they don't want to.

>>39898511
>Botted streams
>Botted booths
Simple as

>>39898511
>>39903315

>>39903264
Doujin activities such as comic markets are only a gray area, meaning that companies can sue activities if they are serious about it.
The regulations of the terms and conditions are stronger for Niji Sanji than for Hololive.
Since it is a publicly listed company, it has stricter control over its activities than Cover.
In particular, Niji Sanji is sensitive to adult-oriented content because it sells works for all ages on DLsite.

>>39898511
Having fun jerking yourself off retard?

>>39898511
Yes Nijisanji is still bigger than hololive
Cope

>>39903608
Understandable and really typical for a Japanese corporation.
My personal thoughts on the matter: Japanese copyright law is 20 years behind the world, I hope they can fix that if they hope to engage international business.

>>39899005
>>39901898
Niji only banned porn on DLsite, it doesn't apply elsewhere.

>>39904391
You think artists just happily accepted that ban?

>>39904391
Because of the risk of possible future bans on any site, only those who are truly interested in Niji-sanji are making them anymore. Currently, 70% of the people who make hololive doujinshi are people who have no actual knowledge of hololive, and are known as hyenas in Japan, jumping on the bandwagon.

>>39904705
Nijicope

>>39903204
That's all Nijiniggers bring up in any thread peacefully discussing about Hololive. They are an unwanted menace.

What's with ESLs and picking fights with the shadows on their wall?

>>39904910
p sure nijifans arent the ones going around calling non-holos 2views and whores. Must suck that all your holoshilling efforts are for nothing and niji/indies won in the end regardless

>>39905855
Lol why niji larping like indie/small corpo love them, last time i check they trashing some small corpo because gfe bad. But their gfe and bfe good.

>>39898511
wait, .live still exists?

>>39906119
because indies do love them? A niji collab with an indie on xmas beat all of holo relay streams and holobronies are still seething

>>39905855
>sure nijifans arent the ones going around calling non-holos 2views and whores.
Fucking newfag, you and your nijifriends did that since forever

>>39906119
That the kawaii production, they even go so far that it involves management for anti harrasment.

>>39902601
>140K tickets sold for NJU yesterday
kek retarded nijifag really fall for this

>>39906788
nice try newfag but nijifans don't since ever because
1. numbers don't matter
2. nijis collabing with indies and non-vtubers is the company identity
3. the fans arent fake vtuber fans

the amount of nijiseeth in here is really funny are you niggers jealous this much?

I’m fine enough with this as long as we get some futa on female rape doujins or some good Yuri stuff.

That said the one artist I love still is just doing crossick stuff, sorry holobros but this guy totally btfos any of the holo doujin artists

>>39898511
for EOPniggers
>light blue is Hololive
>green is 774/nanashi
>magenta is VSpo
>red is Nijisanji
>dark blue is Kamitsubaki
>purple is indie/other
>yellow is .LIVE

>>39907902
They're at the top yet they still do the same punching down they have since the old /vyt/ days. Kinda funny.

>>39901232
>doujinshi =/= PORN
You lost me.

>>39904705
>Currently, 70% of the people who make hololive doujinshi are people who have no actual knowledge of hololive
Is that why we still don't have PekoMiko sleep molestation and Ollie hidden sex?

this entire board don't know ball, vtubing, or anything

>>39908618
>They're at the top yet they still do the same punching down they have since the old /vyt/ days.
saying they're at the top is retarded because the nijisanji fanbase honest to god only tunes in during major events (mahjong, koishien, relay)

>>39908618
>old /vyt/ days
>/vyt/
2019/2020 tourists....
Embarrassing...

>>39907721
>the fans arent fake vtuber fans
You NijiJPfags don't even watch streams on a regular basis, only watching big events. Really "true" Vtuber fans, right?

>>39908688
retard

>>39907721
>3. the fans arent fake vtuber fans
this

>>39907721
>the fans arent fake vtuber fans
bcuz nijiniggers never give a fuck about vtubers, the think of vtubers the same way fleshtuberfags think of dream

>>39909534
This, absolutely this

>>39909534
must suck that nijifans don't have to watch every single stream on every hour to be at the top huh

>>39910147
you'd treat your members like a pump and dump like that

>>39910147
>"Not watching streams is good"

>>39910234
imagine unironically worshiping content creators and still end up 2nd place

>>39902395
Genshin has a different twitter account for each language it's located in

>>39910147
>implying that's a good thing

>>39910305
imagine thinking your first place means shit when its all bandwagoners who only care for a big event only. it isn't natural.

>>39910331
sounds like holo and its subs/viewers tbqh

>>39910305
at least it's natural, unlike y'all who watched niji bcuz muh event FOMO

>>39910394
worshiping youtubers is unnatural lmao
also you're trying to disregard watching events when it's natural and holobronies do it all the time

>>39910505
you're on a board for VIRTUAL YOUTUBERS

>>39910382
What the fuck are you talking about? Holofans watch all streams from all Holomems while Nijifans only watch big event then fuck off somewhere. Calling them Nijifans isn't exactly right either because they don't even watch stream most of the time or care about Niji as a whole.

>only big events matter in this industry nothing else matters muh noombers
>imagine watching vtubers, my normalfag ass is on fire
>haha look at those holofags watching vtuber streams, buying vtuber merch, and supporting vtubers individually, nijisanji main events are all that matters in terms of profits
Nijisisters please stop embarrassing yourselves.

this board has some of the dumbest motherfuckers on earth

just remember, you live on the same planet as retards upset at hololive being popular at comiket.

>>39910544
>blatantly lying about holobronies watching every stream
>trying to redefine fans as watching every single stream ever
>trying to redefine events as unimportant milestones
all this cope just because you lost in your number worship contest, embarrassing

>Nijifans spend less hours watching streams
>Holofans spend more hours watching streams

>Nijifans think they are true Vtuber fans
It's only funny now

>>39910505
>worshiping youtubers is unnatural
You'd be surprised by how common it has become

>>39910621
No let them, it's hilarious

>>39910712
>no stop watching vtubers! only watch corporations! that's the real arbiter of success in this industry! who cares about amemori and hakase they're irrelevant now!
I want to like Nijisanji and not be surrounded by insecure faggots like you.

so much for your christmas miracle

>claim to be REAL vtubers fans
>doesn't watch streams and only watch yearly big events
>get called out
>w-we don't worship vtubers just like y-you
why are nijiniggers so pathetic?

>>39910828
>can only get big numbers only from big events and leeching from big streamers
holy shit nijiniggers can't stop being pathetic

>>39910828
Nijishitters watch special event
Holochads watch everyone

>>39910828
>Don't cherish anything just follow the numbers, Holobronies!

>literally still seething over one xmas stream
holoniggers are so pathetic

my fellow nijisis... how are we still getting bully even with big(bot) numbers?

>>39911005
YOU'RE EVEN DUMBER

Well, it took a little bit longer than I expected for this thread to completely derail into a wall of /#/bot circlejerk/coping and ESLs patting each other on the ass
I gotta give some props for holding back just a little bit

How did a thread talking about Hololive at Comiket turn into a fucking /#/ colony?

>>39911095
because its always a console warfare here, and retarded SEA monkeys need to fight over virtual youtubers.

>>39910544
>Holofans watch all streams from all Holomems
I know I will be talking to a brick wall but whatever. If you want a serious answer, that's because Nijifan tends to watch a small proportion of talents or a clique around few talents because it's physically impossible to watch EVERY FUCKING PEOPLE, and most of them have completely different content direction.
While in Hololive, all of their talents deliver similar content, so Hololive fans will be watching any of Holomems streams if they have the time, only having different priorities. While Nijifan will rather fuck off to do anything else if who they followed isn't streaming.
People mainly watching Kanae will have close to 0% overlap with like People mainly watching Nui or Tomoe. And none of those people will care to check the other's oshi stream when their oshi isn't streaming. But they will still come together when all of their liked talents gather together for a big event, simple as.

>>39911095
how about stop being disingenuous and look at the OP? This thread isn't worth a real discussion

>>39911162
or to better dumb it down

less members=more understanding of what everyone brings.

>>39911162
It's a blatant lie because people absolutely refused to watch tempus collab streams and even admit to not watching streams anymore in favor of spamming old memes to fit in

>>39911243
you're seriously using this place as a litmus test?

>>39910620
Nijifans are still butt hurt that Hololive become global mainstream and overtake nijisanji

>>39911162
>nijikeks would rather watch others random streamers than their own livers and organs

>>39911339
can you apply this logic to everyone else instead of just hololive?

>>39911143
>SEA monkeys need to fight over virtual youtubers.
There's a reason that the moniker of their favorite general (/#/) looks like a cage.

>>39911406
would you expect a phase connect fan to watch at least one of every member for a few minutes if the option was there?

>>39911431
Pretty sure the definition of fan is actually consuming content instead of pretending and spamming memes or trashing indie vtubers

>>39911556
then why assume that?

>>39911568
it's just holobrony logic being smeared back on their face though?

>>39911615
refer to >>39910771

>>39911651
refer to https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/holobrony/page/25/

>>39911243
>similar content
Tempus collab is the kind of content that Hololive fandom doesn't like, anon.
Nijisanji is much larger and at any given time there will be people delivering different content. I don't fucking like ARK, so I won't bother to check a streamer that I don't like playing it. But I can still wait for Yashiro's boTW or Chaika's zatsu. At the same time, others can care enough to check everyone playing ARK but have zero interest in Chaika. We are all still Nijifan, and you can guarantee we will watch big events.

>>39911730
two years

impressive autism for a forced meme. i've seen retards do it better on other boards.

>>39911762
Even better, they didn't even come up with it. /qa/fags were the ones who pushed the term and nijiniggers ran with it because they couldn't find a good counter to nijinigger that doesn't make them sound pathetic

>>39898904
>>39898511
see? nijifags the bad apples that love engaging in tribal war are JPniggers and NijiENniggers
i'm just sitting in the corner quietly being contented that my oshi doesn't collab with niji

>>39912109
maybe quit shoehorning your shit into other communities like bronies? Just a thought

>>39912109
i've seen forced memes on /sp/ that make more sense than this shit. and for what? because of guras past?

>>39912251
lol

Kneel

>>39912109
https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/text/holobronies/page/25/
any name you can come up with isn't as potent as holobrony, sorry

he's unironically using /v/ to back his evidence

most of you niggas weren't even on 4chan when the brony shit happened.

this dude is already trying to disassociate the holo fandom from bronies lmao

>>39912240
Holoboard, Holothread
Seethe about it

nijiniggers should be glad that we let them stay here lmao

>>39912622
Anyone has a screencap of the proud Gura bronie?

>>39911095
Nijiniggers
Nijiniggers happened

>>39913507
I gotchu fellow NijiChad

>>39913959
Shit, wrong image. Sorry bro

>>39902601
>140K tickets sold for NJU yesterday
source?

>>39903921
It's not 2019 anymore anonchama...
>>39910828
chinkseethe

The number of blatant nijiEN newfags in this thread that know absolutely nothing about nijiJP's history and the past actions of nijiniggers is ridiculous.

>>39914129
# thread from yesterday looks up the archive

holoretards that get their news from holoschizos like the asacoco spammer don't get to talk about the actions of /jp/ posters and supposed niji fans that attacked holos

>>39914193
it's not 2020 anymore either

>>39914257
can you stop spreading misinformation please? i just chcecked thread and source of this and apparently 6 million tickets sold for NJU

>>39898511
this means nothing

>>39910620
>as retards upset at hololive being popular at comiket.
crazy world

>OP is bait
>some holobronies chime in with retarded comments
>people correct them
>they get mad and start posting numbers
>someone corrects them again with bigger non-holo numbers
>continue to spam retarded comments trying to cover up/deflect everything
summary of the entire thread

>>39898511
You didnt fall for the lies, did you?

>>39915817
go take a shower nijikek I can smell a lot seething and coping from this post

>>39914454

>>39914714
Cope

>>39915817
3 year old re-run

>>39899879
So i keep seeing Niji bring up the "no porn ban" or restricting sales etc etc... but explain uma musume. They will actually call the cops on you for drawing anything remotely explicit of their characters. yet....

Someone want to explain? I cant see this as anything but cope.

>>39898573
It's literally in any Nijicope thread whenever they can't embrace change

>>39916318
there is no porn ban for the nth time

>>39916451
https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/text/Hololive%20is%20only%20popular%20outside%20of%20japan/
why are you lying?

>>39916318
Not all doujins are porn anon. Especially for Idol-like series like UmaMusume, the SFW doujin is actually pretty popular since they can do weird shit like making the trainer The Rock or Ryan Gosling resulting in weird funny dynamic

>>39916529
NTA, but why are you such a massive newfag?

>>39916592
i'm killing your lulz

>>39916542
>>39916542
>>39916473
and this applies for niji too, so i dont see why if niji is that popular there isnt a decent amount of it. even if there is a "porn ban" which they keep bringing up

>>39916592
Nijiniggers are 90% newfags who only started using the site this year, the fact that he's using Alice.al is proof enough

>>39916697
>>/vt?search_text=Hololive%20is%20only%20popular%20outside%20of%20japan&task=search&ghost=yes&offset=0

>>/jp?ghost=yes&task=search&offset=0&search_text=Hololive%20is%20only%20popular%20outside%20of%20japan

>>39907902
Don't kid yourselves.
These are Holoseethe threads disguised as Nijiseethe.
Holobronies live seething at Nijisanji because it lives rent free in their insectoid heads, that's why they bait threads like these to fish for some angry replies. Biggest proof is the seethe from all these replies>>39910828

Don't fall for it. Nijisanji holds it's own conventions and Niji being a mixed gender company will never have significant presence at comiket since it's primarily a convention for male otaku losers lol.
The most pathetic part is that is 6AM here, so these threads are probably spammed by some turd worlder shitstain.

>>39916833
Newfagchama, give it up. NIjisanji dominating JP while hololive is only popular outside of JP was a nijinigger narrative repeated constantly for a long time, everyone that isn't the newest of fags has seen it, so your pointless archive search isn't going to convince anyone.

>>39916971
nah, you're a blatant liar and a holobrony
kys

>>39916871
> it's primarily a convention for male otaku losers
My god the cope. You're using 4chan anonchama

>>39917017
I accept your concession.

>>39917071
holoseethe

>>39916871
You're on a 4chan board for Virtual Youtubers. I don't know why you're calling Comiket people losers unless you're projecting.

>>39916971
You know what's funny?
OP didn't mention nijisanji, yet nijiniggers came in full force to cope.
>inb4 OP pic
The same pic with other vtuber companies.
Yet, only nijiniggers felt angry because the "only popular outside of japan".

>>39916971
Bro
You can't just drop a chama and call someone else a newfag, c'mon

>>39917030
Cope.
4channel is normie site

>>39898511
>get less doujin than Kancolle which is a dying franchise for years
>not a fad
nice try but vtubershit is still a niche thing

>>39917199
>ignores context of bait threads being spammed on the board
>thinks getting people to respond to lies is a win
holobronies are so dumb lol

>>39917341
>4channel is normie site
This has to be a shitpost

>>39909054
>Ollie hidden sex?
I need this.

/#/ hasn't digested toupea christmas and nju yet I see

>>39917399
nta but /vt/ and the chuuba thread in /jp/ is newfag central
Discord channels have been the secret clubs for more than a year now

>>39917663
>>39917399
>>39917341
"Normie" has little intrinsic meaning. It just refers to whoever has less obscure interests than the person who uses it. People with geeky/nerdy interests in general are already seen as "alternative" by the absolute mainstream. But they are full-on normies for most people on 4chan. 4chan in turn is a normie site by ["our system thinks your post is spam", it was supposed to say 8]chan standards.

>>39898511
>Hololive is only popular outside of japan, they said.
people believed this

>>39898511
Ahhh so for some time doujinshi sites gonna be filled with shitty vtuber doujins...

>>39917663
>Discord channels have been the secret clubs
Secret clubs for trannies

>>39898511
DYRBI?

>>39898511
you know what they say, the shittiest fads are the ones that get bigger.