/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

SEX

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>82,796: Kanata (Hololive)
>52,418: Miko (Hololive)
>38,182: Nene (Hololive)
>31,699: Pekora (Hololive)
>27,718: Nornis (Nijisanji)
>21,842: Koyori (Hololive)
>19,580: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>17,931: Subaru (Hololive)
>15,926: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>15,812: Patra (774 inc)
>14,054: Mito (Nijisanji)
>13,066: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,900: Salome (Nijisanji)
>12,196: Okayu (Hololive)
>12,062: Chloe (Hololive)
>11,961: Nerumero (Indie)
>11,679: Iroha (Hololive)
>11,628: Ange (Nijisanji)
>11,278: Ratna (Nijisanji)
>10,560: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,215: Watame (Hololive)
>10,185: Koyori (Hololive)

>>39751973
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab
22) Watame (Hololive) - 39,051 - Clubhouse 51 gyakutotsu
23) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 72,400 - 3D live
24) Marine (Hololive) - 112,194 - Sister Marine gyakutotsu
25) Toya (Nijisanji) - 127,295 - TouPea Christmas 2022
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 61,583 - Nijisanji Mahjong Cup 2023 rules & lottery
27) Kanata (Hololive) - 82,796 - 3rd anniversary 3D live

>PER COMPANY
17x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Isegye Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Toya
2x: Mio, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Kanata, Lilpa, Marine, Towa, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
237x: Hololive
111x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Isegye Idol, Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
11x: Marine
9x: Toya
8x: Mio
7x: Kanata, Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Watame, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Lilpa, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Yorumi, Zeta

I choose to bet on Watame.

No EN3 until after March 19th.

Well, that was disappointing.

nijibros...
why are we FAILURES??

>>39752192
June 2023. JP7 in January.

>>39752231
Qt least we all agree that either EN3 or JP7 comes out soon-ish.

this thread isn't funny anymore, Nijisanji is now winning all the time

>>39752192
Christmas 2023, no earlier.

>>39752283
"EN3?" Foolish. The next group of female talents for HoloproEN will be in 2024. 2023 will be reserved for the male talents. Be grateful.

>>39752326
>winning all the time
they lost the month, the year and only won cripple this month because all holoEN decided to die at the same time

>>39752195
>handcam buff
>karaoke buff
>la creatividad buff
>all EN buff
vs
>Kiara debuff

>>39752195
I'm sitting here still wondering why the Advent Calendar videos are all unlisted. Because I'm pretty sure the vast majority of the Holobox (ie: casuals) still have no idea it happened at all. And that's a problem because it's supposed to be the thing that makes the sock puppets matter to anyone - otherwise it's just a superficial numberplay with zero understanding of why the other cases worked (like Frogkiara).

>>39752409
Wait, so you agree that tempus isn't EN3, Omega?

>>39752475
HoloproEN isn't defined by numerical titles.

>>39752195
graduation when

>>39752472
Kiara works hard, not smart.

>>39752195
I expected a little more too. What a waste of a perfectly good gimmick

>>39752195
i mean what did you expect
Its Kiara

>>39752472

>>39752454
you forgot
>Timezone debuff

For the runt of the branch, that was pretty good.

>>39752888
>Fancuck
No surprises there.

>>39752888
I don't get the second image

>>39751834
>seiso
pls don't remind me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDwdZypr27k

>>39752186
It's not going to happen.

>>39752965
NTA, but I'm pretty sure that's supposed to mean Kiara's supposed to be in his top 8 for twitter engagement, yet even he had no idea the finale happened.

>>39753027
I have faith.

JP7 in January if Cover is smart. EN3 won't grab any attention for Holofes since it's a dead branch. They should only focus on the main cash cow.

>>39753233
I ALSO BELIEVE

>>39753301
I really fucking wish we had EN vtubers that cared. Too bad no Americen company wants to try.

Does Hololive really need JP7? HoloX honestly still feels really fresh. And that's even with all the countless plugging Cover has done with them.

>>39753006
>(PILOT)

some twitch magic numbah, WoW-React-Sex scandals in your org are king.

>>39753393
JP will continue until JP10.

>>39753328
でっかい
わき

>>39752195
It will still have more vod views than other streams with twice the ccv. Thatbis how weird kiaras streams are

>Lain's 3D debut 48 views away from a million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNQP7b8kk4A

Hadn't checked up on her in a while, but got some clips recommended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psV_1so2YBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aur357Q_0zM
She's like Kaede and many NijiFemales, gets disproportionately more clip views than CCV.
She's not out of 3view territory, but making good use of her 3D model, and connections in EN and Stars.
https://www.vstats.jp/channels/1:UCRm6lqtdxs_Qo6HeL-SRQ-w/overall

>>39753393
They don't suffer the same issues in term of support as the rest of the branches, apart from the lack of studios

>>39753563
damn xQc really fell off i guess

so Voltaction and Rananculous how they're doing

>>39752472
It's not really the content for casuals

>>39753883
You forgot your sentence structure somewhere

>>39753886
Curious. What is exactly?

>>39752888
Kiara passive aggressively calling out fake fans is one of the best things about her

>>39753883
Steady 1-2k.
Sometimes more, sometimes less.

>>39752472
It isn't about numbers. The videos were a gift for hardcore fans

>>39753563
The drama shit is why Neuro-AI Osu streamer keeps getting views.
People are sick of fleshies throwing shit at each other.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/zwlzzq/ai_streamer_hates_her_creator/

>>39753832
A Canada chart would be interesting.

>>39753946
Tier list streams

>>39753967
>The videos were a gift for hardcore fans
How hardcore do you have to be to open a damn website once per day?
Or keep up with Twitter?
I check my oshi's twitter like 6 times a day and I consider myself a casual.

>>39754051
Why not just follow her?

>>39753770
>weird

she streams in a bad timezone for hololive and her fanbase is split in two between Asia and Europe.

>>39753952
The funniest thing about Redinkulous is that they're forever cursed to get their debut anniversary spotlight stolen by HoloFes.

>>39754051
You spend time on 4 chan discussing a meanigless metric. You are a hardcore fan

>>39754102
I don't have a twitter account.

>>39754051
People get filtered cause youtube made a separate tab for live streams and this nigga thinks the average person is capable of following an advent calendar on a separate website for 25 days LMAO

>>39753946
Followind whatever is the current fad or "meta", playing popular games etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH5qrZeItPc
Why the fuck is this shit showing up for me now?

>>39754279
It even had a memorable URL. And it was announced several times on both Kiara's twitter and the Hololive EN twitter.

My favorite utaite just tweeted she will take indefinite hiatus on 31..
Hopefully she got into EN3

>>39754371
Is she a yab magnet?

>>39754346
Third time's the charm. Maybe the curse is lifted and it'll go away now.

>>39754005
i was being a little tongue in cheek, if you blanket remove the Depp&Heard trial from the watch hour it's a pretty heavy gameplay chart, only 3/10 are striclty drama-oriented, and 1 is people camping for crypto handout.

>>39754371
Congrates anon, I suppose this Utaite is EN adjacent to join EN3.

>>39754371
She the proper amount of menhera? Stable people aren't allowed in Yagoo's house of broken girls.

KEK

>>39754279
It sounds like you are talking about an tourist with absolutely no attachment to the talent

>>39752475
Tempus is EN4 or do you deny HOPE?

>>39754461

>>39754461
Educate yourself strikes again

>>39754371
Is she in IRyS circle?

>>39754461
she hates nyaners

>>39754461
Embarrassing

>>39754547
You meant Mel's circle.

>>39754461
faggots should die

>>39754371
Jean?
She is classical anime music type. It would definitely an upgrade but music is not all about the song. Branding and gimmick are important, even shit song could going viral

Should vtubers use the onions mr beast face on their thumbnails to boost the views on their videos?

>>39754371
Oh no no no nijisis, the time is near

So did anyone here talk about this NoriPro, Holostars JP and Niji En TCB sibling collab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ6mUnLSZQY

>>39754461
Why is she so fucking dumb

>>39754461
fake

>>39754461

>>39754371
I remember there's vtuber who go hiatus on 31st too

>>39754371
Japanese singer in EN3, make it make sense

>>39754461
Does that mean she hates loli stuff? Gura would be hurt if she knew who Finana was. Well never mind she probably wouldn't care even if she knew who Finana was.

>>39754688
Why should we have talked about it?

>>39754688
Some people were surprised. They didn't know that Ike had the same designer.

>>39754461
>My cousin showed me pomf pomf kimochi in 6th grade
>Truly scarring
How much of a faggot do you have to be?

>>39754464
Yes. Aka the average viewer and NOT a hardcore fan

>>39754461
Why do NijiEN members like to create a drama. Do they want to incline using a drama?

>>39754461
It must be so tiring to still follow her.

>>39754461
>>39753610
somehow they are hating on Enna

>>39754688
i remember a clip from izuru&shin where they wanted to invite ike, seems it went thru

>>39754781
There is a certain gap between a hardcore fan and someone who can't even be arsed to watch streams unless pushed in their face

What's the gold contender today other than Miko's WWE?

>>39754844
there is no wwe today. Also its nju

>>39754821
Having checked up on the NijiEN threads a few times since Yugo's termination.

Man, do they hate a lot of the women in NijiEN.
Zion seems to be their latest favorite to hate on. Some decent memes at least.

>>39754837
And those people aren't engaged enough to keep up with an advent calendar on a separate website either

>>39754912
watch it get 300k-400k out of nowhere

>>39754932
don't they just hate commies? Since she's one that gets her hate.

>>39755016
one anon does

>>39754951
nta but I don't even watch Kiara most of the time, I watched every day of advent calendar but still almost missed the 25th one since i just absent mindedly clicked on the 24th thinking it was the final. Randomly clicked a Kiara stream and saw her talking about it and went to see if I missed one.

>>39755016
seems like her initial jewish prices for membership got a lot of hate and it stuck around even after she changed it

>>39742239
Suisei didn't talk to Coco after she she knew about the graduation. She was angry and starstruck for not understanding the reasons why Coco was leaving, but Suisei did understand that there was nothing that she could've said that would've changed Coco's decision.
Suisei didn't talk to Kanata either IIRC, since Coco and Kanata lived together, but Anemachi still shared them food left uneaten with them. Kanata was just a bystander here.
I think it happened something like that, correct me if I'm wrong.

>>39754966
I will say it's a failure if NJU can't beat NijiMK tournament

Kiara held 4k viewers throughout the whole superchat reading

>Whoever sold Anykara stock at 12k is genius
>It'a bilibili
I knew it! They pushed Luxiem before IPO just to dump it later

>>39754912
No, NJU starts tomorrow (JST)

>>39754461
AHAHAAHAHHAAHHA

>>39755246

>>39754912
There's WWE stream today. It's holofighter season 3, she's going to create Sakamata and Iroha. The one on the 3rd is a collab with Polka and FBK.

>>39754844
Coco's anniversary

>>39755538
I mean, retards here get impressed when Fauna has 5k viewers for her superchats reading so...

>>39753393
Frankly, given the current situation of competing for fans within the hololive, the new members will probably be competing for even more fans.
I feel that adding more members would be counterproductive in a closed hololive that does not attract many new fans.

>>39753883
Voltaction had a 13-14k cooking segment and ranunculus is having their hotpot stream later so their really not doing too bad. Their covers are doing ok too.

>>39752888
Towa…

/#/ is fucking dead

>>39756770
EN is dead
why is everyone refusing to do the job they were hired for

Because we’re dead time for some Spotify numbers. Here is IRyS songs on the 30th of November JST.

And here is her songs on the 28th of December, one full cycle of Spotifys tracking later

the lack of anons ITT proves that these threads are dominated by EU, EA and SEA anons. where all the NA bros? it's our time

>>39756865
>>39756895
Her best performing song Here Comes Hope did 120k in a month while her worst performing song Only In Hope did 36k. Her second best performing was Gravity at 97k for a 23k difference between first and second.

another holoen dead hour prime time...

>>39753393
Only if they could crack a certain niche or older Holos are streaming less.

>>39757256
Didn't Matsuri basically fell off the face of the earth for most of the month?

>>39757200
Business as usual

kanata killed /#/...

>>39754051
It's not a real descriptor, but a casual would most likely have days where they don't even think about Hololive.

>>39757200
I wonder how much Fauna is paying her vocal coach that her fucking vocal coach is making her take classes NOW right after the holidays

my cute wife

>>39757847
Likely paying $100/hr session. But she can just write it all off as a business expense.

>>39757847
it's not that weird man. Most jobs only get Monday off

>>39754371
oh god it's gonna be another vsinger

so no EN3, just a single girl

>>39755016
Isn't it counter-productive to hate on commies in the NijiCN thread?

minna doko...

Mel x IRyS collab when

>>39757837
Us heimin were predicting 100k+ so we got embarrassed.

>>39758692
Why this pair?

What the fuck is wrong with the catalog?

>>39752472
>Advent Calendar
What the fuck is that shit?? When did it happen?

>>39758778
They're dumb and sex-brained and might do some filth.

>>39758862
The userbase.

>>39758909
Mel is pure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFkR5kCg6KE
No wonder SEA is doxxfag central, when even the talents themselves keep enabling people like this

>>39752195
I want to like Kiara, she puts in more effort than the rest of the EN whores but I just can't. Streaming at such a bad time is retarded. And don't give me shit about her timezone, she's a professional streamer, she's not bound to a 9-5 schedule like any other wagie, she could easily stream at 2am if she wanted to (and some JP holos do exactly that).

Ultimately that's the difference between Kiara and a true professional like Pekora. You can bet your ass if Pekora moved to another timezone she'd still be streaming JP prime time for those numbers. Kiara prioritizes going out and spending superchat money with her Mom shopping, meaning she has to squeeze in streams at a terrible EU timeslot and that's why she's always bottom of EN despite being the member who probably puts in the most overall effort.

>>39758862
Might you be more specific?

>>39759106
retard

>>39759044
>It's ok when holoEN does it

>>39759165
Asian schizos are more dangerous to women

>>39758778
IRyS is Mel's nepo hire

>>39759144
If Watame can stream at 2am there's literally zero reason Kiara can't do the same.

>>39759106
Look at her SCs and song view.

>>39759324
what if she prefers a healthy schedule for her timezone instead of more numbers faggot
KFP are a dedicated bunch, she's fine with being the runt

I wanna see Elliot rodger moment in hololive fanbase, so the girls wont collab with homo again

>>39754371
Lena?
gods speed anon

>>39759717
Nah, Kyoani happens first.

>>39759623
>what if she prefers a healthy schedule for her timezone instead of more numbers faggot
Then my criticism is correct and she doesn't have the drive to be the best like Pekora and is content to wallow in mediocrity because it's easier.

>>39759324
Watame will die in her 30s while Kiara will be healthy well into 90 years old.

>>39759819
>little asian person will die younger than average height white person
dyrbi

>>39757200
The funny thing is that Haachama would normally do her English stream tonight but she's sick too.

>>39759819
I'm fine with that. Better to burn out young than live a long and pointless life. Something doesn't have value just because it's old, ask the people who bought the beanie babies.

>>39759165
You could totally yell "Watson" in public and no one would think anything of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bFTZDvaeaM

>>39753393
Eventually they'll need it, but it's not a pressing thing. They could hold off another 6 months easily, even a year if they really wanted.

>>39760041
ew

>>39759819

>>39759788
If we're being honest with ourselves Pekora has fuck all drive given she's a glorified NND streamer like she always has been. Being the best at that is not really anyone worth shit would aspire to.

>>39760090
>If we're being honest with ourselves
you're seething

>>39760082
Do it watamage, beat his ass!

>>39760090
Pekora went from being the runt of her gen to the most popular vtuber in the world based on sustained average CCV, what are you smoking KFP fag.

>>39758862
It's why # is so dead for a while.

The sisters that usually shit it up are on a crusade against their own Livers. Xsol getting most of the catalog shitting.

>>39760128
I mean if you're talking wallowing in easy content, Pekora is literally the post child for that in JP. But go off about how she's the greatest entertainer to exist lol.

>>39760041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QursOn-IKl4
>you french

So this is the new way to get big SCs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb1dt8kRIQg

>>39760194
nice english

>>39754461
I think the 2nd one is fake, don't see it on her timeline. Hasn't take down the pomf thing either. I hope Nyanners does see it though.

>>39760220
Challenges always been an excellent SCs dump.

>>39754688
>Holostars
What do you think?

>>39760194
>wallowing in easy content
That reeks of Ame “ASMR easy content” sour grapes.
What’s so complex being done by Kiara that surpasses Pekora content in your opinion?
Hopefully not a literal puppet show, that would be a deflating start of conversation

>>39760289
I was reading a manhwa with the same setting too

>>39754966
They have to keep boosting the numbers for events, if anything goes down from last year they're afraid it will spook investors.

>>39760194
Pekora plans out her content pretty meticulously to get the biggest viewership possible. She saves debuff shit for when she knows she's going to have significant overlap and always makes sure to get funnels when she can, and is usually one of the first to jump on FOTM content when she spots it (She lined up an Evil God Korone stream the moment she saw Okayu hitting 30k with it)

JP7 announcement in 40 minutes.

>>39759106
I like Kiara because she's the only one consistently streaming in my timezone

>>39757847
I mean she can do them whenever she wants, but the coach's schedule is limited and presumably Fauna wants as much practice as possible before Holofes.

>>39760444
>On Watame's anniversary
Yagoo knows better.

No announcements till after the 5th

>>39760305
Honestly anything any holo does that's more involved than screaming ehh uso majide for five hours at a videogame is more complex than Pekora's content.

>>39760220
>5 gazillion Indonesia money
>$130

>>39760162
Spend too much gift card on christmas.

>only 1 stream today
>it's already ended
Imagine JP pulling this kind of shit to their fans when they only have talents up until gen 2. Ayame, Shion, Aqua seldom stream nowadays but they were never lazy when it is just them.

>>39754151
If you have Firefox, there's an extension called Feedbro that will monitor and pull tweets to display like an rss feed

>>39760637
I hate HoloEN from the bottom of my heart.

>>39760518
When in doubt, pinky out

Tempiss killed Holo EN

>>39760637
w-watch tempus

>>39760703
I wish we could combine the ones that like streaming and hololive into one super gen and ditch the rest

>>39760533
Yeah, that confirms it to me, it’s a “ASMR is easy content” sour grapes type of comment.

Here is the thing, saying “anyone can do that” but having a literal thousand people attempting and only a handful succeeding at it beyond all others seems to show not anyone can do that at that level.
And I’m not even talking about Pekora or gaming, I’m talking in general, that goes for pretty much every activity.

Kiara in particular fails terribly at said easy activity, hence her mediocre performance even in relation to her closest peers in her branch and gen.
The fact the singer of her gen can play games and get a bigger live audience should be an indictment

>>39760637
selen is streaming right now

>>39760637
Is making posts like this cathartic for you, ENfag? Knowing how lazy the EN whores are and they'll never, ever change because they have thousands of redditors convincing them its empowering to ignore their fans and take them for granted.

>>39760637
Pull up a stream schedule from back then and let’s see the coverage.

>>39760714
Unlikely.

>nothing to do at work
># is dying
>no stream
Grim dead hours..

>>39760803
I'll watch Pippa I guess.

>>39760724
Buddy, my job is spamming chats to homobeg. You think I actually want to watch them after a hard day's work? You have to separate your job from your hobbies

>>39760753
But schizos here hate Kiara...

>>39760803
one of my twitch oshi began uploading full VODs on youtube, i feel it's christmas still

>>39760753
So we’d be kicking the bottom in hours streamed out. Gura, Ina, Kronii, Mumei and Fauna all gone.

>>39760852
KFP are more schizo than any Kiara antis. Have you seen how unhinged those troons are?

>>39760637
just go watch some nijis or indies and stop being so demanding you parasocial gachikoi freak! Downvote from me.

>>39760852
Meh, that sentiment's a year out of date. I don't think she has that many genuine haters anymore - it's just that there aren't many people /here/ who actively like her either so she kinda falls into a depressive meh that occasionally flares up into mild distaste during collabs.

>>39760913
sure thing egguardo

>>39760852
I think she's got a little something for every type of hater. The chicken voice, the everything year 1, the me me me, the Romeo and Juliet, the time slot, the European sensibilities, etc

Niji sweep starting tonite, holobros hide till peko tournament!

>>39760775
Dragoon please, with Zaion in town now as the best gamer Selen has nothing to offer to her fans anymore.

>>39760797
Just wait for homo gen 2 and over 9000 mixer collabs Ame will spam with them.

>>39760913
>troons
Sticks out like a sore thumb. Fuck off back to /pol/ already.

>>39760766
I don't really understand why you keep bringing up Kiara when I'm simply pointing out that Pekora's content is super simple and that yes anyone can do it and in fact in the JP branch most of the popular holos DO slavishly follow the same style of stock Japanese media reactions to shit. Assuming popular streamers are superior because they actively managed to corner a market or are superior entertainers or they had a whole machiavellian scheme going on with their incline purely because they got popular is truly to misunderstand just what goes into this shit. And seriously overestimate the intelligence and competency of some fuck up shut in.

>>39760908
Was Ina bad before her break? Even if she doesn't crank out the hours, she was "stable octopus destination," right? I assume that means she streamed reliably.

>>39761016
>gacha gamer
>good

>>39761035
>troons think only /pol/ hates them
kek

>>39761035
ywnbaw

>>39761011
Its hologold today tho??

>>39761016
What if selen does an entire stream making smug faces. She could offer that

>>39761021
Looking forward to the next chapter of your fanfiction.

>>39760766
>The fact the singer of her gen can play games and get a bigger live audience should be an indictment
This doesn't make any fucking sense you retard

>>39761062
>fps trash
>good

>>39761106
wdym? ame already collabing with homos

>Pippa doing a handcam collab with Jewra

>>39761052
Ina has always been on the bottom of EN for hours streamed only sometimes beating out Gura or Kronii. Even at her peak she streamed shorter hours and less streams.

>>39761152
Oh, collabing? You mean in the present?

What went wrong, holosisters?

>>39760966
by hear I mean this thread /vt/ as a whole shifted into hating Calli for her shenanigans and appreciating Kiara for keeping holo EN alive as a branch.

>>39761202
Doesnt matter anyway shes only in Japan to hand back her Cover loaned iPhone

>>39761202
Not padding her stream hours with boring SC reading is based desu

>>39761235
>Calli

>>39761234
Oh is it time for the EN minnow slapfight already? Alright let me get a drink so I can enjoy the show

>>39761211
Yes, she did appear on one of homo chat

>>39761235
>calli

>>39761235
>Calli

>>39761292
Scraping the bottom of the barrel for something you could try to spin as a collab.

>>39761268
>>39761293
>>39761360
>These are the npcs we have to deal with in day to day life

>>39761235
>Calli

>>39761360
It's short for Calliope Mori

>>39761372
You forgot this one >>39761235

>>39761046
Do people think streaming is easy?

>>39761411
Doesn't seem like a scripted response that is easily predictable to me

>>39753393
I don't think they need it, but I didn't think they needed JP6 either. But unlike EN, there's really nothing holding back a new JP gen now.
HoloX is pretty much "complete" already, they all got their 3D reveals, idol outfits, concerts, multiple original songs, the anniversary, and even a manga. The only problem is whatever is going on with Laplus, but the girls should be able to hold their own now like the rest of JP.

>>39761431
Worse, it's a deadbeat.

>>39761399
Also a name exclusively used by redditors and twittards

You know i'm noticing that Niji En karaoke streams are getting overlap more and more by other Niji En stream until a while ago it felt like there was some rule about not overlapping them

>>39761211
I mean what makes you think she wouldn't try to organize something to integrate the new batch of homos? Even if there is a collab ban of some sort atm it might be lifted just to push the new fags.

>>39761372
Satan needs better hardware for this limbo

>>39761361
cuckening will happen again, teakek
cope all you want

>>39761486
That's the beauty of NijiEN, you can watch whoever you want. There's no need to skip around special streams

>>39761426
Do people think streaming is hard?

>>39761526
>what makes you think she wouldn't try to organize something to integrate the new batch of homos?
The fact that they tried it with Tempus and saw that it failed spectacularly.

How much will this place and Nijisisters seethe when Council finally have their own explosive performances at HoloFes4?

>>39761565
but all of them are shit

>>39761562
>t. anon that has a cuck fetish
man, so tiring already

>>39761621
Their orisongs suck I don't expect anything too good from them at holofes

>>39761593
Only from Covers perspective. Mori, Kronii and Ame deliberately wanted to piss off their cuck fanbases with another shittest and it was a great success. The issue is you still don't realize that most of HoloEN is driven by spite and desire to anger their fans because they're mentally ill women who think they're entitled to fan money no matter what they do

>>39761016
zaions first handcam got less viewers than selens zatsu on the same day.

>>39761486
with 30+ members and already the "no overlap on birthdays" mngmt have to lift all the stops, they have to keep hitting saturation to push the branch forward, their audience isn't like holo one, gotta keep the carousel going or the kid jump on another toy.

blue faggot vs blue faggot

>>39761468
>but I didn't think they needed JP6 either
Funnily enough, it was the right call, if only because of Chloe. She caught the mass exodus of Fandead who didn't migrate to Mike or Nazuna.

>>39761621
kronii will say idol culture is a thing

>>39761288
Forgive my transgression, Queen of Numbers.

People kept shitting up the thread a while back the somehow Nocktys was "captivating the Korean audience", but didn't provide any proof outside some random solo twitter replies.

Well i DID manage to find 1 person, a KR MMD animator and regular Isegye collaborator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxJjpSeXHI
https://www.youtube.com/@BLUEBERRY_FRIED_RICE
The Luxiem MMDs are doing the best from the past year's videos.

Aside from that, how mad do you think the sisters will be when Luxiem finally gets 3D models and they won't be nearly as good as these free, fan-made ones?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvjNqI3EZOA

>>39761621
Have Fauna or Kronii ever talked about their dancing ability?

>>39761649
>t.guy who watch for entertainment
so it's pointless to talk to (you)

>>39761692
>most of HoloEN is driven by spite and desire to anger their fans
Ah yes, it really shows. Look at how many Tempus collabs and how little pandering we've had recently.

>>39761587
Streaming is easy
Streaming entertainingly is hard

>>39761725
>shows the day where hololive dominated
cope

>>39761786
They spammed Homoshit until management was forced to step in because they were quite literally sabotaging the Hololive brand by making it Niji lite

>>39761692
Ah yes I’m sure Mori was really trying to piss off all those unicornbeats. After all she had never collabed with males before Tempus. She certainly didn’t release an orisong with a Star or anything like that.

>>39761848
Non-Tempus male collabs don't count

>>39761783
but i'm (you)

Why are people here so angry all the time?

>>39761837
Which brings us back to my point >>39761593.
Glad you agree.

>>39761046
When an award winner JP comedian says he as learned from your improvised comedy and artists saying you revived their love for art I would say that yes. Of course you can prove your point by showing your super popular channel and all the people praising your abilities.

>>39761901
Because you won't notice me. BAKA!

>>39761901
holobronie coping mechanism.

>>39761901
tempus unironically lives rent free in the minds of many anons here, its quite a sight to behold. I can't tell if its scorned former fans or they just know it farms yous

>>39761837
Management under Shinove was probably fine with the homospam but whoever replaced him doesn't seem to like it and he also doesn't like the direction Axel is taking.

>>39761901
Nijiniggers getting comfortable in the thread.

>>39761978

>>39761046
>I don't really understand why you keep bringing up Kiara
This whole subthread of conversation started with Kiara as the topic
>anyone can do it
That’s the core of our disagreement. Not everyone can do it. There is a cemetery full of 2 views, 3 views and 4 views like Kiara that tried and failed and continue trying and failing.

I think the disagreement here is motivated by that “entertainer vs. artist” dichotomy that pops up in this thread very often.
Modern vtubing (as opposed to the OG “let’s play” pre recorded form) is a very simple medium. You show up, throw a live stream on and do something for a set amount of time while keeping the live audience entertained.
The very successful ones (when using the live audience size as the metric of success) are the ones who can do this simple task of entertaining a crowd so well that the hype to attract more and more people and said people stay for the long haul.

On the EN side look no further than Gura. Both her choice of content and her execution is the simplest thing and, yet, nobody in the whole field can match her. Because she’s really good at it.

>>39761848
Moris entire career in Hololive is one long string of attempts to try and stick her middle finger up at the Hololive fanbase while trying to cozy up to the normalfags who watch Vshojo and Trash Taste and other normalshit. I'm so glad it completely backfired and she gets her ass torn apart by normies for being a "racist cultural appropriator"

Should've just pretended to be an anime girl instead of turning your nose up at it and thinking you'd ever gain mainstream acceptance you dumb bitch

>>39761998
>he also doesn't like the direction Axel is taking.
QRD? i am still at the director-san cockriding

>>39761901
I don't see any emotional posts

Blue tempus getting Kiara numbers. T3MPUS is a resounding success now please get excited for EN4, B4LLZ

Man, look at those walls of text

>>39761875
So you guys would all be fine if Vox did offcollab ASMR with Noel?

>>39761211
>>39761593
You guys go a few weeks without new Homo collabs and already think it's all over and will never ever happen again and that they all "learned from their mistakes"? You're just setting yourself up for disappointment again.
Obviously, it was never going to be as bad as the first round of Tempus collabs and turn into NijiEN shit. Even people like Fubuki who people always use as an example only collabs with the Stars a few times per year.
Most of those EN girls are rarely even collabing with each other right now.

>>39762081
Are they a sportsball team? What sport

>>39762138
Does he have the right? Is his ASMR not-noel tier? Give me the deets, sisters

>>39762138
>you guys
who the fuck are you talking about retard

>>39761111
Yes it does. Mori (like Susie’s and AZK8, for instance) doesn’t really need to do anything other than show up once in a while, do whatever her signature content is and shill her music.
Her musical output speaks for itself and recently the criticism coming her way is that she’s releasing TOO MANY songs, and that’s detrimental but I digress.
The point is that Mori doing all that on the musical side and still getting a bigger live audience than Kiara for the bare minimum effort she puts at the gaming side is an indictment of Kiara inadequacy

>>39762150
>I-it'll happen, just you see!
Of course it will, sister. Don't forget to take your meds.

>>39762061
>Ass torn apart
>Literal who locked his account, album needed restocks, chosen to be one of the talents for the HoloEarth ProtoLive
She’s really suffering.

>>39761235
>Calli

>>39762061
I'm happy too, tho shame shes still rich and will sail into the sunset even if the mori persona crashes and burns.

>>39762055
>Reddit spacing

>>39762237
The flood of nogs on her TikTok telling her to "unrelease" and that its "fire on mute" got into her head so much she did an entire song about it in her new album so uuhhhhh, cope.

>>39762250
>sail into the sunset

>>39762223
Mori puts in far more than the bare minimum effort on the gaming side anon and it's not some kind of fucking slider between does music and has live views for gaming content. Your entire "point" is just weird and nonsensical.

So the one thing I learned from this thread is that nijiniggers don't celebrate Christmas

>>39762307
Is this just a roundabout way of calling her fat?

>>39762232
Sorry but expecting girls like Ame and Kronii to never collab with them again after the shit they pulled is almost as delusional as the retards expecting Gura to start collabing with them now.

>>39751872
Recent clip numbers
>>39722688
>>39722726
>>39722785
>>39722817
>>39722854

tempiss will always be topic huh? i wonder if anon has dedicated discord for unicorn.
I want to join

>>39752052
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
238x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
55x: Pekora
38x: Miko
29x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
16x: Suisei
15x: Subaru
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>>39762363
>roundabout
Yeah like how people have to manoeuvre when she is on the street

>>39762232
Kronii burned all her bridges to spam a few Homo collabs. It's utterly delusional to think she's "seen the errors of her ways" and swore off them. She'll do a homo collab the first chance she gets, she threw away everything to show she's a strong independent woman who don't need no gachikoi so her entire brand now is being the one who loves interacting with homostars.

>>39762459
She threw away people like Gabe

>>39752052
>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
231x: Hololive
110x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
33x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Hololive, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Ibrahim, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gaku, Gatchman, Haachama, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kohaku, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Nene, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>39762341
>Mori puts in far more than the bare minimum effort on the gaming side
Anon, she spent an inordinate time slugging through with “classics” like
>Live a Lfe
And
>VA-11 Hall-A
in a way not even her very own audience wanted to keep up, in one of the few periods even Kiara was getting a better live audience.
I’d that’s not bare minimum I don’t know what would be

>>39762055
>On the EN side look no further than Gura. Both her choice of content and her execution is the simplest thing
Something about Gura's content appeals to literal children. That's the only reason her numbers are higher than the rest of HoloEN.
Ina attracted college-aged artist types and hipsters, Mori attracted musician types, and Ame attracted /v/ermin. Kiara's base is idol otakus and congoer types.
Fauna has the ASMR buff which is why she's been doing so well compared to the rest of council.

>>39762492
Honestly I have no respect for any Kronie who liked her original content who decided to stick with her. Homo collabs are only tangential to the real issue which was she created a deliberately adversarial relationship with her own fans for no reason other than to appease homobeggars.

Look at how Kronii acts compared to another Holo like Miko who genuinely loves her fanbase and the contrast is stark. I've never, ever seen Miko do anything for the purpose of antagonizing her fans but with Kronii its a weekly event.

>>39761593
It wasn't so obvious at the time, first homo-collabs got some decent numbers (although lower than average Gura stream) it's only with this one >>39761562 where everyone streamed their POVs and only Ame got something close to holo EN level when they probably had to reconsider this strategy.

>>39762571
>Mori attracted musician types
dyrbi

>>39762525
>>Live a Lfe
>And
>>VA-11 Hall-A
And that's why you're retarded. She probably put more effort in those series than in most of the games she ever streamed, investing herself into it, voice acting them, discussing them etc. Just because people didn't like it doesn't mean she didn't put effort into it, it just wasn't popular. But popularity doesn't reflect the amount of effort.

>>39762612
You don't watch her and don't know how she is with her fans

>>39762525
I wouldn't call running fully voiced bits of long niche rpgs and VNs "bare minimum" at all. In fact I'd question why you seem to think something like that would be lower effort than, for example, coming back once a month to roll gacha. Don't think you have a clue tbqh.

>>39762571
>Kiara's base is idol otakus
kek. Highly fucking unlikely given her reputation among idol otaku.

>>39762612
>Miko who genuinely loves her fanbase

>>39762492
>Implying a dude who sometimes sent a $5 super was some big loss
Dude wasn’t even something valuable like an artist or clipper

>>39762492
It was not just “Gabe”s. Holo audience is averse to drama and just want their escapist hobby to remain that.
When her streams became a battlefield a part of her core audience bailed and her floor sank from 5k to 4k.

Kronii has a very good ceiling but even that took a hit with streams that would get close to 20k in the past (unarchived karaoke, Minecraft) being closer to the 10k side.

Kronii managed to stack the general HoloEN deceleration with one exclusive go herself

>>39762668
He's probably equating good CCV with effort which is retarded when bottom of the barrel react content has been the meta for years.

>>39762525
If "streaming non popular game" is your equivalent of putting the bare minimum effort, then your entire point is even more retarded, because Kiara stream way more debuff shit than Mori ever did. And their CCV is VERY comparable.

>>39762676
Not even 5ch believed the crap spouted by the jailed tabloid nonce anon

>>39762700
>adverse to drama
>trolls in supas / tweets / youtube comments to bait for drama

>>39762571
>Fauna has the ASMR buff which is why she's been doing so well compared to the rest of council.
One of the worst takes I've ever seen in this thread.

>>39762752
She was disliked purely because of her personality before that anon.

https://twitter.com/natsuiromatsuri/status/1607917062009286658

>>39762571
>Gura's content appeals to literal children
we literally have her youtube analytics

>>39762786
Not from what I've seen really.

>>39762805
It's a coping KFP

>>39762700
and fucked council as result, by not fulfilling the duty of the most subscribed/tourist magnet/blue fat tits drawn by wada of the gen she stunted the other 3.

>>39762799
YAB

>>39762848
A lot of Kiaras neuroses come directly from being the least popular member of her idol group and the rrats had very little to do with that

>>39762631
At least one of her paypigs regularly releases tracks and remixes so yeah

Pippa live and on her way to 2k
https://youtu.be/2fevHQSsINc

>>39762656
>>39762668
>effort
I get it. You are talking about how much effort she put in playing those games.
I am talking about how little effort she put in keeping the audience actually entertained with her choice of gaming streams.
It would take a lot of effort to play the game with thai subs and dialog but if the audience is not entertained by that there is no real merit in it, is there?
>unless of course she can surprisingly speak perfect Thai and enrapture the non Thai speaking audience with her magnificent performance

>>39758778
They were part of the same utaite super group and did about....12...13? cover songs together over a few years. IRyS is possibly the one Mel has interacted the most with in PL matters, maybe even moreso than Marine.

I hope Cover will never go public

Why are kfps so useless? Go support her instead of arguing /here/
https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1607919404284628992?t=hCOPgV1-QIxXRIRb5BPaQg&s=19

From what I could read, Risu is extremely averse to doing karaoke despite having God-tier singing skills. Why's that?

>>39762923
That's stupid, at least one of Hololive fanbase has murdered someone

>>39763003
whats her problem this time?

>>39763003
Wut? What’s going on?

>>39762966
The idea that you equate effort with what has the broadest appeal is just baffling to me and fucking speaks volumes of the brain bugs that infest actual nousagi if that's what you truly think.

>Pippa goes live
>Already 2k viewers
Turns out there isn't a Vtuber recline, just a boring big corpo recline.

>>39763003
paperwork issues for jp?

>>39763044
wrong fanbase, you talking about nijisanji

>>39763049
>>39763054
Yeah, puppet show didn't do as well as she expected.

otsuray~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI0tO7s0XXw

>>39762067
NTA but the way he's trying so hard to be seen as a dense harem protag I think? Since that would be bad for the female talents/staff who interacted with him (Zeta or Nodoka for example)

>>39763003
Stressed over EN3, really?

>>39763054
They discovered that she entered illegally to Japan and she's going to renact her underground idol life with ojisans to stay.

>>39763078
I wonder how hard she'd be inclining if she wasn't made verboten in the HoloEN discords because it seems like she's plugging the gap made by the lazy whores

>>39763103
Damn it, flopgur lives rent free in my head, can't read this without remembering him.

>>39763003
She's meeting her EN3 kouhai!!!

>>39762067
Axel said on stream that JP management was trying to tell him how his "character" should be on stream (they wanted him to be more seiso) but Axel didn't like it and it didn't help his numbers so EN management told him he can just act however he wants

>>39763203
That was by design, anon.

>>39763127
Why is she stressed over Tempus?

>>39763256
uh, they wanted to pull it closer to starsjp? as a male proto-mori counterpart figure i mean

>>39763068
>actual nousagi
Couldn’t be me
>broadest appeal
Both games had NEGATIVE appeal and sank Mori’s floor
Again, doing a game with thai subs and dialog would take lots of effort. It would have no favorable result.

The measure of success of an entertainer is on whether the audience is, well, entertained. If the audience is getting up and leaving mid show the entertainer is failing regardless of how hard is the task he imposed upon himself.
The effort needed is not in performing whatever task but in keeping the audience entertained.

Unless of course you subscribe to the POV that vtubing is about self gratification by the streamer and that the audience can either like it or GTFO. If so there is no merit in this conversation, because there is no common ground.

>>39763078
I think she gonna get a raid too from ghost gura

>>39762966
Do you think Pekora’s gacha streams were the highest quality, most entertaining streams she’s ever done?

>>39763344
The measure of the success of an entertainer is how many people are willing to pay to see your content actually. Literally always has been the only relevant metric going back to the dawn of the entertainment industry. Anyone can rock an open mic but if you're not selling out your netflix special you ain't shit.

>>39763256
Thats fascinating. I wonder how much influence JP management has over the talents characters. I suppose thats the reason for types like Lamy who start off with one character and end up being completely different as they just can't be assed keeping up the facade anymore

>>39763405
yes

>>39763078
WOW! Two full k? Is this even allowed? How can “boring big corpos” even compete?

>>39763127
Multiple indies and utaite took indefinite hiatus on 31. Yeah, she probably had meeting with EN3

When will Phase Connect start pushing Pippa to a much bigger stage? Imagine Pippa appearing with the Japanese Consulate at Anime NYC.

>>39763445
Pekora has Pippa beat in the "funny rabbit" department, so sit down Phasefag

>>39763344
>Unless of course you subscribe to the POV that vtubing is about self gratification by the streamer and that the audience can either like it or GTFO
Ironically only an attitude that someone backed by a big brand can have the luxury to hold. Thousands of indies doing anything they can to appeal to an audience meanwhile the EN whores think streaming is about their own personal fun and not their fucking job to be entertainers.

Shes probably just stressed about the upcoming japan trip, not to mention she's gonna cosplay at comiket.

>>39763543
Don't you dare bring reasonable takes into my thread, she's clearly seething and malding because EN3 hired her replacement.

>>39762763
>exceptions are examples of majority sentiment
What next? dedicated shitposters are examples of this threads lurkers?

>>39763445
She started at 2 digits and built this up from nothing. It wasn't from being in an already-famous company.

>>39763405
It’s not just that I don’t. I don’t even watch those. You might be debating some strawman in your head because I don’t even get the question or why you would ask me.

>>39763437
I agree with that. Size of live audience for vtubers is a rough proxy for revenue but you have a point, there are outliers like Aia and Scarle and the NoriPro girls and Patra that can get a big revenue on a small live audience.
These are the exceptions tho, it’s not a linear relation but usually a 2 views will have a lower revenue than a 5 views.

I think this is one of the times it helps that she has the Christmas cake image going on. She can make comments like these and her viewers will actually listen, then they can turn around, play halu a bit, and both sides can turn the others down knowing that it's all a joke.

Like her chat will be filled with "きつい / cringe" whenever Marine tries to pull "oh don't you guys just WANT me" act, but then when someone sends an SC joking about their honeymoon together, Marine can turn right back and yell "I AIN'T YO WIFE".

I guess it's kinda like the IDs where they can make halu jokes and both sides can laugh together cus they can trust that neither side will take it seriously, Marine can kinda trust her chat to be mature enough to just enjoy the joke while keeping their expectations checked.

I guess the opposite end is Nene with her "you're all my husbands" schtick being so silly and childish, yet it's effective in making sure no one single viewer will start to get the illusions that she personally loves them and them alone.

But otherwise it's rare to see other, less mature Holomems even attempt to give their viewers a reality check, not only because they'll lose out on the SCs but either if they come off as too serious, they could get flamed for "hating their viewers" or being "ungrateful" or whatever, or if they don't go serious enough the people the message was supposed to aim to would just take it at a joke. (ie, what happened with Axia)

>>39763632
I’m aghast! Two full k! Is she botting?

Pippa numbers btw

>>39763543
Why is Kiara going to Japan? Cover doesn't welcome her

>>39763724
She’s tracked by vstats

>>39763543
How much fatter has her ass gotten these days?
It was already 20% larger 2 months ago compared to her last cosplay stuff.
I desperately wanna see it.

>>39763543
>she's gonna cosplay at comiket
we will get another fbk img

>>39763683
You'd think Botan would be one of the types who doesn't want gachi but she seems to genuinely love the attention

>>39763342
He didn't say it explicitly but yeah my takeaway was that they wanted him to be more like a male idol type and less "the retarded swearing australian"

>>39763440
I think it's probably more of a thing when they're first starting off or struggling. It makes sense JP management would be more hands on with Stars for example. They probably have an idea of the "characters" for all the girls but probably let the reins go over time as the girls get used to streaming. No need to rock Lamy's boat when she has a good thing going on now

Jesus Christ why is this thread still alive?

>Ame has the 2nd highest median CCV in EN this month
Do we still hate Debuffson?

In the next five years, we will see the recline of Hololive due to the failure of HoloEarth while Nijisanji remains strong. Vshojo would have broken up by then. Isegye and Phase Connect will rise up to make up the new big 3 of the vtuber industry. Isegye will fill the idol niche left by Hololive while Phase dominates Twitchfags left by Vshojo.

Bros my YT suddenly full of new holo clipper I never seen before

>>39763833
Seems like the sisters went overboard hating their own chuubas this time and meidos deleted a bunch of threads.

Also, 5 hours isn't actually a lot for this hour.

>>39763804
>He didn't say it explicitly
Can you link it? Your initial statement made it look like he said it outright but now it’s more like he implied it and you filled the gaps.
I wouldn’t doubt tho, I can see management going
>wanna make money? Drop the “retarded Aussie” act and start getting a loyal yume base.
>your current act wont get you money OR views so you have nothing to lose

>>39763904
They feel like Sushi rebranding because YT killed the main channel.

>>39763846

>>39763846
Please tell me the lottery number

>>39763846
let's wait until Phase gets a second 4 view chuuba before we start writing fanfiction mkay

>>39763844
>10 streams with return stream, GeoGuessr, Karaoke, LA CREATIVADAD shooting stream and handcam being half of her streams

>>39763634
>Rough proxy for revenue
Not really. Pay-gating is the only acceptable measurement of worth, couple of thousand people were willing to pay like what a hundred bucks to see Mori in concert? Makes her objectively a better entertainer than Pekora until Pekora starts getting theatre shows.

>>39764001
People will bite this bait

>>39763962
WTF even happened to his channel? He started deleting or privating clips to a tune of 300 million lost views, he might have suspected he was getting restricted by the algo because of one of many clips.

>>39764040
Guy's been shitting out bait all thread, so I might as well just give him a dose of reality.