/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Maximum grinding. Why aren't you doing it right now?

>>3936248
Unironically move to Japan, ideally not Tokyo.

>>3936248
Adderall

>>3936248
Eat a Japanese man's brain to absorb his knowledge

Putting an arbitrary time limit on yourself is a good way to not meet your goals

>>3936248
N1? Even native japs have to get tested to get to n1. You would have to move to japan and learn their language by forcing yourself to interact to people and then study some more. Try 4 years.

>>3936248
Step 1 is don't ask the people here.

>>3936248
GTFO TO /qa/

>>3936248
N1 would be impossible basically. Even N3 in 4 months would be really damn good.

>>3936248
download a Japanese voice patch

>>3936366
No they don't this is such a bad meme, like the Japs who tell you native English speakers do poorly on the TOIEC. Complete bullshit.

>>3936248
Do your reps.

yt translate

>>3936248
Don't put a time constraint. Take it slow.

Move to Japan, interact with people constantly, practice, and study when you aren't practicing and you could possibly do it in 6 months.

Realize that's basically what Kiara did. You are smarter than the chicken, right?

>>3941136
The thing is that JLPT questions have a lot of traps and bullshit. They're not "difficult" for natives, but they can still trip them up if they're not used to test-taking.

Step one: move to japan
Step two: become shitty english teacher
Step three: randomly meet a middle aged hair stylist and befriend them
Step four: make youtube videos about japan
Step five: never get to n1 because you keep meeting other english speaking youtubers because of collabs

>>3936366
N1 is the equivalent of an 6 or 7 year old, just listen to this interview of a random 6 year old who has better grammar than N2 speakers https://voicy.jp/channel/670/19804

>>3936539
this fucking guy

>>3936248
There're guides in /jp/. Go 2 it.

>>3936248
>graudate
Might want to finish learning English first

>>3941355
Shut up, Chris

>>3936248
You can never be japanese

>>3936539
>mfw when its 4 TB of audio files

Give yourself massive brain damage and have someone play anime (unsubbed) through headphones while you're in your coma, then hope you pick up enough to be fluent when you wake up

>>3941318
Someone in a thread once said that Kiara learned it with google translate.

>>3941489
kek

>>3936317
Don't forget to eat the heart to absorb his soul and Bushido spirit. The Nipponese fear the heart eaters.
In fact the single instance during the war of an entire Japanese batallion surrendering *before* the battle was when they were facing British Imperial troops from deepest darkest Africa, where a rumor spread amongst the Japanese ranks that these particular Africans came from tribes that ate the hearts of the fallen enemy.
None wanted their souls to be consumed by a colonial trooper from Africa so they surrendered to the astonishment of the British commanders. Never to be repeated. They usually fought to the death.
So remember, when fighting a Japanese opponent remind him that you'll eat his heart *when* you beat him. He may just give up then and there.

You would have to perfectly memorize around 70 kanji every day while studying grammar

If you study 8 hours a day you could do it

>>3936366
The hell are you talking about?
N1 is the grammar and vocab knowledge of a 6th grader with the Kanji knowledge of a high-schooler.

Any Jap who finished middle-school should getting at least a passing N1 grade and anyone who finished high-school (i.e. the overwhelming majority of the population) should be among top scores even if Japanese wasn't their best subject at school.

>>3942813
People have grinded kanji like that but then you'll have to accept forgetting 100s of them instead of a dozen, which is soul destroying really.

>>3936366
Japs don't do the JLPT, it's entire focus is foreigners.
Japs do the Nihongo Kentei, a test that would make your average N1 cry.

I did like 1k vocab cards on anki, I can start reading now right?

>>3943181
You can start reading whenever you want.

>>3943217
what do I read besides vchuuba chats?

>>3943247
Any manga where they spell out the kanji.

>>3943247
よつばと!

>>3943153
Time and perseverance are the only things that can prevent that.
There's sadly no shortcut.

>>3936248
jplt is cringe multiple choice shit. if you go past n3 without needing a certificate for work or something you're retarded. the meme about nips struggling with n1 is partly true in that the test has idioms and shit that you just need to memorise. you can be fluent in Japanese without knowing some of it. but you can be n1 without being fluent in Japanese because it's just a matter of memorisation. the test was designed around being marked by computers so it's incredibly flawed

>>3943153
Just do Remembering the Kanji or Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course and if you're too much of an AHDH sperg with money to throw into the pit of gamified apps, then maybe wanikani.

The biggest complains against them are the grind (and people who spent 10 years learning kanji and still failing being bitter and wojackingover someone learning it them quicker), so if you're gonna grind anyway might as well use the methods that are focused on retaining the Kanji.

>>3936248
reps

>>3936248
Kiara did it. You can too!

>>3941355
cunner....

>>3943167
How do I go from EOP to a perfect score on the 日本語検定 in an arbitrary amount of time?

>>3943167

but you guys told me jps can barely do n1...

>>3944312
1. Learn Japanese at a decent level (N1).
2. Study further so you put your reading comprehension level to that of an university graduate (3000 Kanji - business and technical language, etc.).
3. Become a Japanese Grammar and Literature Nerd in the process, so you're actually good at reading comprehension and knowing more obscure grammar strucutres you're likely never using unless you're an academic of a writer.
4. Improve your reading speed while at it- this is the killer, you have 60 minutes read the texts and answer the questions of 1級.
5. Likely fail once or twice (the success rate for full 1級 certification is is usually under 8%, for partial 1級 certification under 20%).
7. ???
8. Succeed.

>>3936304
>>3936302
>>3936268
A mix of these three will bring maximum results.

>>3944476
Barely passing N1 is still passing N1 - and passing a test without knowing the test structure and studying for it is something to be respected.

Also, there's shit on N1 that is not going to be used for your average jap - for example, animals are usually written in Kana, so if you're used to read/write 「シカ」 and suddently you come across 「鹿」 you may stumble ( this in particular may be an issue if, for example, you graduated high-school before the 2010 常用漢字 list came into full adoption in 2015).
There's also, canned strucutres that may be unnatural for a native speaker (i.e. you can express the same idea in a simpler way, but the test is asking for this one structure that is gramatically correct but awkward to say) that may throw someone off.

It's still not something that should keep a native who finished High-School from getting the minimum 100 out of 180 points to pass the exam.

>>3944740
すげえ...

>>3936248

>>3943966
>RTK
Absolutely useless if you actually want to speak the language

>>3936248
marry an ugly jap

>>3949776
The only thing dumber than starting RTK is finishing RTK

>>3941355
the typical caucasian trap.

>>3949776
Sure but memorizing kanji has nothing to do with speaking the language.

Here is a list of some learning resources I came across here a while back.

>>3950009
it has nothing to do with reading it either
knowing how to write a kanji and both its on or kun readings won't help at all when you need to read a word like 逸物

>kanji
wakarimasen...

>>3942643
>In fact the single instance during the war of an entire Japanese batallion surrendering *before* the battle was when they were facing British Imperial troops from deepest darkest Africa, where a rumor spread amongst the Japanese ranks that these particular Africans came from tribes that ate the hearts of the fallen enemy.
Sauce? I need to see this.

>>3942389
that's not how language learning works

>>3950050
I'd add Maggie-sensei's blog, stumbled upon it multiple times while googling different expressions.

>>3936248
You'll be lucky if you can graduate baby level in that time

>>3936248
buy a japanese dictionary with your language
take it everywhere
stay off-line as much as possible

>>3950121
>won't help at all when you need to read a word like 逸物
Just use the on reading of both kanji.

>>3962616
then you'd be wrong

>>3964360
いつぶつ and いつもつ are both valid readings

this thread is full of horrible advice

>>3964801
Yes but they're not often used, so you're just being pedantic

>>3949776
Use RTK for learning the meaning of kanji and then use some vocab deck to learn vocab and reading

>>3965339
for learning the made up western meaning of kanji*

>>3965702
I treat it just as a foundation to work off of, you can use the definition it gives you as a vague basis to memorize the actual definition(s)

>>3966037
But what's the point? You're putting in all that effort to memorize english keywords for kanji so it'll be easier later? Why not just use the effort you did on RTK memorize the words in the first place? That way you can start reading or listening faster and seeing the words in real contextual situations.

>>3966413
Because learning the kanji individually personally makes it easier for me to learn the meanings and sometimes readings of compounds than learning them one by one

Consume Media and comprehend the input + Anki and some grammar on the side Kim/Dolly. You have to actually understand what is being said to learn all other advice is retarded

>>3950050
tje fuck is lelong cards? can't find any shit on google.

I guess its time to pay for JapanesePod101 and/or Nihongo no Mori.

>>3936248
to be very honest, if you are around 15-18 and starting your reps right now, it's very possible to get to n1 level in just 4 months. younger people tend to absorb language better, while older learners seethe at them.

Do vocab anki but pay attention to kanji radicals and write them down so you dont forget as easily
Them use Tae Kim and Dolly

1-memorize hiragana and katakana
2- learn grammar from tae kim or any decent place.
3-you can use anki but you will want to kill yourself, so i recommend to immerse as soon as possible with something while having the grammar guide by your side. This way is more fun to memorize kanji than going full autist with anki, but doesnt hurt to do it too.
You can start with the yotsuba manga https://bilingualmanga.com/manga/yotsubato/chapter-1/5-1 (at the beginning you will hate life but it gets easier), watching an anime with jp subs can help too once you have some grasp on the vocabulary.
In int/djt and /jp/ you will find better instructions

>>3967713
>it's very possible to get to n1 level in just 4 months
No, it isn't. There is just too much to learn.
>younger people tend to absorb language better, while older learners seethe at them.
[citation needed]

>>3936248
I don't think the average person is capable of N1 in 4 months. Keep in mind that the average person isn't capable of it AT ALL — most give up before reaching N3 or N4.
You need to make sure that you hold realistic expectations, otherwise you will almost certainly get discouraged and burn out.
>>3967713
This is bullshit.
I started when I was 18 years old, and spent 2~5 hours every single day on it. and I went from EOP to N1 in 2 years with really intensive study. I was also in the middle of Engineering School at the same time.

These posters are giving good advice:
>>3944740
>>3967170
>>3968302

This website is an absolute heaping pile of resources: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/learn/guide.html

If you actually want to learn Japanese, it would benefit you to give up your hobbies (especially video games, massive time sink) and dedicate all your newly-acquired free time to studying. I could not have done it if I hadn't quit video games for 2 years.
Stop watching VTuber streams until your listening comprehension is actually good enough to benefit from them (probably 1 to 1.5 years out if you really work hard at it).