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>> No.39708249
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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

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>>39708228
Recent clip numbers
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>>39667905
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* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>61,583: Maimoto (Nijisanji)
>60,039: Pekora (Hololive)
>41,380: Hololive (Hololive)
>27,746: Natsume (Nijisanji)
>26,231: Marine (Hololive)
>24,107: Kanata (Hololive)
>22,624: Suisei (Hololive)
>22,388: Pekora (Hololive)
>22,150: Lui (Hololive)
>21,756: Nene (Hololive)
>16,954: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>16,335: Fubuki (Hololive)
>16,165: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>15,287: Botan (Hololive)
>13,636: Mio (Hololive)
>12,913: Bae (Hololive)
>12,896: Koyori (Hololive)
>12,359: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,647: Ame (Hololive)
>11,369: Luna (Hololive)
>10,766: Fumi (Nijisanji)
>10,639: Shu (Nijisanji)
>10,362: Iroha (Hololive)

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My cute wife

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>> No.39708428

I don't know why but I feel there is less hype about Hololive songs compared to last year

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>>39708356
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab
22) Watame (Hololive) - 39,051 - Clubhouse 51 gyakutotsu
23) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 72,400 - 3D live
24) Marine (Hololive) - 112,194 - Sister Marine gyakutotsu
25) Toya (Nijisanji) - 127,295 - TouPea Christmas 2022
26) Maimoto (Nijisanji) - 61,583 - Nijisanji Mahjong Cup 2023 rules & lottery

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
9x: Nijisanji
1x: Isegye Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Toya
2x: Mio, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Lilpa, Marine, Towa, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
236x: Hololive
111x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Isegye Idol, Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
11x: Marine
9x: Toya
8x: Mio
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Watame, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Lilpa, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Yorumi, Zeta

>> No.39708466

>>39707962
30 day rolling sum of anyone who listens to a song that you’re credited for, including features, which is why it can be a bit of a meme metric if you have a single with someone who’s much bigger then you, so Mori is going to be able to leech off Monarch and Zutomayo and keep that number high for a long time regardless of the performance of her own music

>> No.39708477

>>39708361
we love your cute wife here

>> No.39708498

>>39708428
How have you felt about Hololive this year, in general?

>> No.39708557
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*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>12/26 DAILY TALLY
12,913: Baelz (Hololive)
11,647: Amelia (Hololive)
10,639: Shu (Nijisanji)
9,797: Fauna (Hololive)
6,867: Selen (Nijisanji)
6,423: Mori (Hololive)
6,103: Axel (Hololive)
5,055: Mumei (Hololive)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Return Stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,263 (Simulacra)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,166 (1 Million Subscribers Endurance)
15. Fungus (Nijisanji) - 30,277 (Quick talk)
16. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 21,769 (Debut Karaoke)
17. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 17,543 (HANDCAM)
18. Luca (Nijisanji) - 18,712 (Unarchived Karaoke)
19. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,291 (Newly Friend Game w/Marine)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 41,650 (Anniversary Gameshow)
21. Shu (Nijisanji) - 30,335 (Anniversary Debut Reaction)
22. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,571 (GeoGuessr)
23. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,711 (Unarchived Karaoke)
24. Uki (Nijisanji) - 12,416 (Unarchived Karaoke)
25. IRyS (Hololive) - 14,919 (Unarchived Karaoke)
26. Baelz (Hololive) - 12,913 (Clubhouse 51 w/Towa)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 10
Nijisanji - 16
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
5x: Mysta
3x: Gura, IRyS
2x: Meloco, Vox, Baelz
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Fungus, Luca, Shu, Amelia, Uki

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
36p: Mysta
19p: Fauna
18p: Gura, IRyS
13p: Baelz, Amelia
12p: Vox
11p: Meloco
9p: Mumei
8p: Hex, Fungus, Luca, Uki
7p: Vox, Shu
6p: Kiara
5p: Selen, Maria, Kronii
4p: Mori
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver, Millie, Enna, Alban
1p: Petra, Pippa, Pomu

>> No.39708566

>>39708498
Feels like the usual stream wise but song wise I feel this year is let down compared to last year

>> No.39708582

>>39708466
>Leech off AmaLee
>When Villain Vibes outperformed every song on her album by a mile

>> No.39708596

>>39708498
When HoloEarth was revealed, Hololive became just another soulles corpo to me

>> No.39708599

>>39707917
they never lost the drive to stream because they experienced the dark days
suisei inclined pretty late with her music, also never really had a hardcore schedule and miko even after inclining out of the dregs was more of a 10k streamer when the top holos were 20ks back in 2020 - its been a long, slow incline to the top

>> No.39708693

>>39708596
>HoloEarth
Thats what did it for you?

>> No.39708712

>>39708142
She managed to sell 9k unalive copies though, that number is respectably decent for a full album. Losing 6k for your major debut full album is the big question.
>>39708466
So every new person who clicks on any song will get the counter incremented by 1?

>> No.39708759
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>>39708454
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
237x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
55x: Pekora
37x: Miko
29x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
16x: Suisei
15x: Subaru
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

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>>39708759
>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
230x: Hololive
110x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
33x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Hololive, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Ibrahim, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gaku, Gatchman, Haachama, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kohaku, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>> No.39708852

>>39708712
Well for one the Mori Calliope shop isn’t counted by Oricon

>> No.39708856

Any gold contenders for today?

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https://twitter.com/AC______/status/1607315416522571776
This is the perfect visualization of what being Holomama is worth

>> No.39708902

>>39708582
Amalee has over a million monthly listeners, so yes, she’s significantly bigger then Mori.

>> No.39708959

>>39708859
koyo one is funnier

>> No.39709038

>>39708712
Correct, though it counts autoplays and such as well. I don’t know if there is a minimum length required to count, but Spotify LPM being a meme number is a well documented fact for people who have collab songs with big artists.

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Any hype or news for comiket 101?

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>>39708902
There is no way amalee is bigger than Mori. Have you seen Mori?

>> No.39709221

>>39708902
Not for her new shit. They’re from her back catalog from 10 years ago when she was at her peak doing English versions of anime songs. Her new stuff and originals performs far worse.

>> No.39709241

>>39708712
Honestly the only thing we can say for sure about Mori is that she's reclining and is a far cry from her 2020 peaks but at the same time numberot aside she's still very succesful as far as music goes.
I just hope Cover stops listening to her and her homo Twitch obsession.

>> No.39709297

>>39709241
And let her rot and die in the Japanese market?

>> No.39709326

I noticed that the shitposts and anti-En rhetoric have been ramping up since /jp/ decided to get rid of all vtuber threads.

>> No.39709374

>>39709241
Mori has no say in what cover does. She literally doesn't even mention twitch, what are you talking about?

>> No.39709385

>>39709048
I don't know man, I feel like there is 0 hype for this comiket

>> No.39709390

>>39708127
It's pretty common for record companies to do that, they've been doing it since the 50s and streaming hasn't changed anything

>> No.39709400

>>39709241
>Mori forced Yagoo, the man who would terminate PekoMiko if it got StarsJP all to Roberu tier, to debut Tempus
Retard

>> No.39709449

>>39709390
Did Rosemi talk about it in her T3 members stream?

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jesas

>> No.39709460

>>39709449
It was in Vox's b2 stream

>> No.39709480

IRyS' ASMR is the only ASMR I bother to actually get the headphones out for.

>> No.39709512

>>39709480
She's literally just talking.

>> No.39709531

Pretty surprised Axel's gotten 2k on FE3H. Not bad, and he's still in the tutorial

>> No.39709577

>>39709531
People usually stick around to see which house that gets chosen. Unless he's particularly fun to watch for this he's going to drop in viewers hard in the subsequent streams

>> No.39709596

>>39709531
Pretty clear that Axel's antics lately have given him a bit of an incline. He found his niche.

>> No.39709604
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>>39709512
Best kind of ASMR.

>> No.39709621

>>39709480
numbers, you have them?

>> No.39709624

>>39709221
If you look at her popular songs on her Spotify page, you’d be only somewhat correct in that most are older but her cover from OP:R is doing very well. While I’m sure that the deadbeats are contributing to VV being the most popular of the songs from her new album, the big numbers the song does is from Amalee’s inherent audience and position in the algorithm.

>> No.39709649

>>39709577
He is not a good streamer

>> No.39709713

>>39709621
I have released two (2) entire gallons of semen listening to IRyS' ASMR. IRyS wins semen gold.

>> No.39709733

>come back to these threads after christmas
>rangebanned
Fuck. I missed out on the fun.

>> No.39709744

>>39708498
tempiss ruined it

>> No.39709774

>>39709713
Sorry, Fauna has her beat by 5 gallons

>> No.39709821

>>39709713
>>39709774
You guys know that Choco streamed, right?

>> No.39709836

fauna is a whor-
man I'm bored

>> No.39709838
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Their fans just really hate games huh

>> No.39709849

>>39709649
He's 1000x the streamer he was on debut. Tempus might be shitters and homos at that but put them in their comfort zones and they're solid enough streamers.

>> No.39709883

>>39709821
>Choco
Nice joke

>> No.39709940

>>39709838
Didn't he already have a last stream before break? Is this his next last stream before break? Are we going to get the post last stream before break celebration after this?

>> No.39709944

>>39708712
I'm kinda old so I expect "local bands" (from big cities) to move over 10k, but...
If Mori's selling only that much, she's weirdly unpopular. Vtubers are a niche interest, but JP idolshit is a literal pop genre. Millions of people like it.
Have real record sales really fallen so far? Holy shit.

>> No.39709993

>>39708596
Stop larping, retard.

>> No.39710006

>>39709944
Mori music is not "idol shit" tho

>> No.39710036

>>39709849
https://youtu.be/DgU4dGFZ0Tw
He is still going to drop. Kiara viewers dropped 2 years ago when the game was new

>> No.39710047

>>39709944
>I'm kinda old so I expect "local bands" (from big cities) to move over 10k
locals wouldbelucky to do that ever is all digital all nowdays

>> No.39710093

>>39709944
These sales are only the ones being tracked in JP physical stores no? It doesn't check for sales from other sources such as digital, standalone stores, or the online Hololive shop, but I could be wrong on that.

>> No.39710119

>>39709838
their aniversary wasa graduation stream for a lot of fans that wontcomeback.

>> No.39710144

>>39709400
Consider necking yourself.

>> No.39710149

>>39709883
Choco is pure sex

>> No.39710189

>>39709733
go back

>> No.39710228

>>39708498
Disappointed. My notable memories of it is only the botan concert, summer concert, and marine 70's show. Otherwise it's just being mia or flipping off their core audience.

>> No.39710229

>>39710149
IRyS has more sex in her crooked toe than Choco and her 3 views do.

>> No.39710254

>>39710093
No, it's a combination of digital+physical+streaming on JP platforms. Holoshop does not get counted but Mori doesn't have her latest album listed on the holoshop.
>>39709944
You'll need 10k sales to enter this week's oricon top10. The current #1 has 200k sales. Ado is still in the top10 with ~13k points.

>> No.39710295

>>39709944
No fucking one buys albums nowadays grandpa. A lot of small-medium sized bands survive through concerts and selling merch. Mori has the advantage of being a Holo, if Fauna can sell a shitty towel for 30 then Mori can sell her album as merch.
As someone who is into niche music her numbers are good, obviously she's far from an actual mainstream musician making bank.

>> No.39710340

>>39710254
Right, that makes sense, but not counting the Holoshop and the standalone site means we're stuck once again with the fact/cope that we don't have full numbers. Annoying.

>> No.39710404

>>39710149
>More sex than IRyS
Neck yourself

>> No.39710485

>>39710340
Mori shop is managed by UMG, so big chance it's actually counted by Oricon. No way in hell UMG will miss their chance to add extra numbers to the local charts.

>> No.39710563

>>39710229
>>39710404
You guys are children.

>> No.39710659

>>39708498
If it wasn't for the Holoearth stuff they would have completely fallen off my radar after the Tempiss disaster and my oshi not streaming. Only a handful of memorable concerts/songs, barely any interesting company wide collabs.

>> No.39710772

>>39710144
Nah

>> No.39710821

>>39710659
Chumbud…

>> No.39710877

>>39710659
but do tempiss realize they are part of problem?

>> No.39710882

>>39710485
Mori store is also targeted at U.S so Oricon probably wouldn’t accept their numbers anyway.

>> No.39710885

>>39710821
Could be a Tako, anon, though thankfully there's a light at the end of that dark tunnel.

>> No.39710962

>>39710821
I'm almost certain there was behind the scenes drama and arguments, probably centered around tempiss or "idol culture" that drove Gura into a depressive spiral.

>>39710877
Probably but they also have a chip on their shoulder for getting flak from it all and so will be unrepentant.

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I just noticed this in the license agreement from HoloEarth.
Does that mean markochama is retarded?

>> No.39711015

Nijigod status?

>> No.39711025

>>39710772
Shame. Could have been your first good idea.

>> No.39711069

>>39710962
The rrat about VamFags suspension (seethe over management calling them "the problem that reclines HoloEN") was true....

>> No.39711139

>>39711000
He's a super retard

>> No.39711148 [DELETED] 

>>39711069
Go shit in the mans thread. /#/ isn't your litter box.

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>> No.39711229

>>39711148
cope homonigger

>> No.39711250

>>39708498
First half is good though Rushia firing really hit me bad.
Second half is bad almost the worst if Rust arc didn't happen which honestly the best months this year.

>> No.39711261

>>39711015
He's about to start streaming in 6 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JszX4Pc4s8

>> No.39711317

>>39711229
Nobody gives a shit about them in here. You're just annoying, anon.

>> No.39711326
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>>39711227

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Wonder what this guy is thinking now.

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>>39711227

>> No.39711441

>>39711227
yikes they fell off quick, how is axel killing them with 2.1k now kek.

>> No.39711500

>>39711227
What are gyaru's numbers?

>> No.39711522

>>39711227
What happened with the boys. I thought one of them was some ASMR sex god.

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>>39711500

>> No.39711563

>>39708498
Pretty bad after HoloFest. Lack of decent events, talents seemed to be going down more and more, HoloX was supposed to be the new face of neo-Hololive but ended up a disappointment, and we all know how EN fared. I'm also not a big fan of the constant shillings (seriously, $32 USD just to take a quiz?).
For an idol company, there's a serious lack of events like Bloom to keep the interest going. All the successful concerts this year (i.e. Marine) seem to be in spite of management, not because of them.

>> No.39711574

>>39710254
Billboard Japan publishes the physical sales of top 50 albums and singles every week.

https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=top_albums
https://www.billboard-japan.com/charts/detail?a=sales

The big ones do sell a lot, but at the same time you can get to weekly top 50 with less than 1000 CDs sold. Of course, not every store reports their numbers, but Booth seems like the only potentially major store missing. From what I can judge based on Oricon, digital copies sell even less.

>> No.39711606

>>39711227
dropping dropkicks status?

>> No.39711610

>>39711561
that's a nice 1k floor

>> No.39711627

>>39711561
gyaru...

>>39711563
I cope thinking that management will be back to supporting the girls soon™.

>> No.39711635

>>39711227
I know we all like to meme how the recent NijiEN waves are failures but honestly how do they compare to NijiJP excluding the big boys like Kuzuha, Chinman, Salami, etc.?

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>>39711227
Not even a month in

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Subs, only gyaru hasn't got 100k yet

>> No.39711700

>>39711656
Is it weird that I enjoy gyaru more but at the same time get filtered by her?

>> No.39711722

>>39711656
Yeah, seems Council didn't do as good as expected.

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>>39711227

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No need for other streams. Patra Gold.

>> No.39711794

>>39711227
>>39711637
NijigamersEN soon

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>>39711227
ACCELERATE

>> No.39711855

>>39711785
And Mysta cripple gold.

>> No.39711882

>>39711656
T-the cull!!

>> No.39711909

>>39711227
So any talented male content creator would have to be fucking insane to join this mess over StarsEN, right? I mean Tempus are shitters too, but being a FNG in NijiEN is way worse.

>> No.39711998

>>39711909
Gamble on blowing up like Vox in niji vs a core fanbase in the stars.

>> No.39712016

>>39711909
HoloStars still has that new car's smell allure that you can successfully carve out a niche as opposed to competing against Vox/Mysta et al. I'm surprised there hasn't been a Coco version of HoloStars EN yet. Seems like that sort of contents would be popular for the viewers.

>> No.39712078

>>39711998
Does Stars EN have a strong core fanbase that beats out Niji EN's? Aren't they comparable or lower post-honeymoon?

>> No.39712079

>>39712016
and what is Coco content?

>> No.39712083

>>39712016
>I'm surprised there hasn't been a Coco version of HoloStars EN yet
Coco, Gura and Kobo were unique phenomena in Hololive. Pretty sure some were expecting Magni to be like that. Alas.

>> No.39712093

>>39711822
>Entertainment factory
>Trucksanji

What's holol then?

>> No.39712149

>>39712016
this sounds so gay, wtf man

>> No.39712165

>>39712078
Nope they dead on overlap too
their box is just 3-4k maybe nowadays

>> No.39712197

>>39712016
>I'm surprised there hasn't been a Coco version of HoloStars
You talking about meme review? Most Stars meme use the girls, I don't think they can get the permission to use those in stream.

>> No.39712203

>>39712079
leddit memes. leddit love homos.leddit give numbers

>> No.39712225

>neither Luca nor Pomu raided Elira
Please Mysta please don't fucking job to Fauna. You have an empty timeslot and you're going to go on the JP server. PLEASE.

>> No.39712241

>>39711563
>I'm also not a big fan of the constant shillings (seriously, $32 USD just to take a quiz?).
Not exactly the same but this reminded of how EN management has been having the girls constantly run the con circuit which i think is a huge waste of time given it hasn't helped EN's numbers that drains the girls and keeps them from spending that time on more productive things. It's new of the decisions of EN management that I've really disliked

>> No.39712263

>>39712197
The meme review was the last stage of Coco, wasn't it?

>> No.39712287

>>39712241
The con appearances are optional

>> No.39712330

Seems like peko will overlap kanata 3d live with fgo unless its only a one hour fgo which is unlikely

>> No.39712366

>>39712263
That and 3D was the only think that gave her view. Her gaming streams where not good

>> No.39712374

>>39712287
The option shouldn't even be given since evidently the girls keep taking it and as I said it has done nothing to improve the numbers of the branch meanwhile things like more streams or other content on their channels could

>> No.39712391

>>39712241
Wouldn't surprise me if whatever retards they got at management actually think this is a good idea.
I mean, it is, but not just going to the cons like a dog.

>> No.39712429

>>39712016
Management isn't going to let anyone make more Asacoco style skits dude. Everyone knows they hated that shit.

>> No.39712444

>>39712203
>leddit give numbers
Man I miss those guaranteed 30k stream, guests dependant tho, the meme content didn't matter at all

>> No.39712445

stop raiding /nijien/ you fagoots

>> No.39712460

>>39708498
JP: Very good as always
ID: I don't think about them and often forget they exist
EN: Please kill them or release EN3 while keeping them away from the homos

>> No.39712477

>>39712374
The girls don't care about the views, the con stuff is to give the fans some fanservise

>> No.39712489

>>39712225
There's no way Mysta gets sub 10k on this with the JP buff and Ark buff

>> No.39712516

>>39712445
>/nijien/
https://youtu.be/0xeGE_5kSI0?t=2

>> No.39712560

>>39712445
No one here is raiding /NijiEN/, just report whoever it is for offtopic instead of feeding them.

>> No.39712595

>>39712444
It was the girls interaction with fanstuff and them saying madafuka was the appeal. Tempus is not going to get pekora or suisei on, so it's worthless

>> No.39712632

>>39712374
>free money in exchange for showing up for 2-3 hours
>NOOOOO IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU MORE VIEWS
Are you retarded

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>>39711635
compared here

>> No.39712650

>>39712287
>The con appearances are optional
All we know is that the appearances are optional for some of the girls to not participate. We do not know if they are optional for ALL of the girls to not participate. Mumei sitting out when 4 other girls are participating is not the same thing as none of the girls showing up and hololive not having panels

>> No.39712717

>>39712650
Wouldn't surprise me if management was this retarded.
>hey girls, there's a con, 3 of you have to go, decide between yourselves, kthxbye

>> No.39712730

>>39712644
This is from September or so, right?
Btw, I have seen Gwelu so many times on clips or events that I always forget that he's one of the biggest shitters

>> No.39712761

>>39712632
shut up mr krab

>> No.39712766

>>39712374
Have you ever considered that, maybe - just maybe, despite whatever shitposters /here/ said, they don't care that much about CCV?

>> No.39712777

>>39712165
Max is around 8k, and Vesper has over half of it to himself.
>>39712016
>I'm surprised there hasn't been a Coco version of HoloStars EN yet.
First, you'd need one who's passably creative, Magni doesn't cut it. Secondly, for the meme review thing you'd need them to speak JP and have a load of JP friends to bring on, there aren't enough Holostars and they're not touching the JP Holos. Axel has the JP skills but is an idiot, Magni isn't as creatively intelligent as people claim he is, so you don't have the cards to play that hand and likely never will.

>> No.39712799

>>39712717
Fauna has literally stated she takes every opportunity and has explicitly told her manager that she wants to do more, because she loves doing meet and greets and actually seeing her fans. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the same for other girls.

>> No.39712801

>>39712766
Kiara and IRyS care. A lot.

>> No.39712820

>>39712650
>>39712717
Management can try to convince them to attend if they are on the fence. You don't have to make everything so negative

>> No.39712858

>>39712644
Haven't followed Inui in months but she had a consistent 8-10k streaming zatsudans or mindless zatsu shit like powerwash sim at 6 am jst.

I don't know how she does it.

>> No.39712956

>>39708498
I only got into Holo at the start of this year and things were pretty exciting
I can safely say it would have been very difficult to get into Holo near the end of the year when it felt like EN was falling apart. So it's not too surprising numbers are down when the state of the branch means it's hard to get new viewers.
Here's hoping the new year is better. I'm excited for Holofes and the Kiara in Japan arc.

>> No.39713002

>Gaia Online
IRyS no...

>> No.39713009

>>39712858
Honorary Holo.

>> No.39713016

>>39712820
management of any kind is cancer

>> No.39713029

It honestly feel that Luxiem will forever remain the peak for Niji En after 3 waves none of males of said wave are anywhere near Luxiem

>> No.39713082

>>39713016
No, it's not

>> No.39713178

>>39712801
>Keep streaming Splatoon with JP even though it has been proven months ago that those streams get pitiful numbers
>Accepted management's request to fill Gura's timeslot even though her viewership is always lower there than in her timeslot (and she has to wake up early for that, too)
>Barely shilled her own music
Clearly IRyS can afford to care more about her numbers

>> No.39713220

>>39713029
I was hoping tempiss would beat them all with the magging meme. But retards just did more drama and attacking our unicorns.

>> No.39713267

>>39703247
Anons of /#/, what do you think of this thread's attempt at being /#/?

>> No.39713270

>>39713178
>Accepted management's request to fill Gura's timeslot even though her viewership is always lower there than in her timeslot (and she has to wake up early for that, too)
You can keep parroting this shit but it won't be true.

>> No.39713364

>>39712079
The original Asacoco where she and Watame worked their asses off to have a near daily prepared hour of content between Watame no Uta and Asacoco. People forget that before she was the Reddit dragon, she was easily one of the hardest working people in the company. A shame her edgy sense of humor meant management killed Asacoco twice.

>> No.39713370

>>39712644
Oof, even with the new buff they're still in the bottom half. Doesn't bode well

>> No.39713385

>>39713270
So she just woke up one day and decided that she'd like to sleep only 3 hours each night and stream in a timeslot that got her lower CCV than usual. Such amazing numberfag behavior, then

>> No.39713398

>>39712799
Most of the girls would willingly go for any con I feel. Mumei is the exception, not the norm.

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>Mori bought a house recently
>IRyS leaked on the Chadcast before the most recent one that shes excited to meet Bae
>IRyS is going to be busy this week so guerillas only
>Bae is going to be busy this week so guerillas only
>Ame is going to be busy this week so guerillas only
>Ina is in Japan
The EN girls have gathered together to found Holohouse 2.0. Get ready for the next wave of EN content thanks to your boy.

>> No.39713464

>>39713422
back to global

>> No.39713497

>>39713422
>2.0

>> No.39713500

>>39713422
When will they invite Kson?

>> No.39713568

>>39713422
oh boy tempus was also in japan!

>> No.39713572

>>39713422
So when is the next rager? I need to know when to buy more condoms.

>> No.39713601

>>39713422
I've never seen a streamer house end well. They always fall apart and die with drama.

>> No.39713610

>>39713500
Only if Kson drops the green menhera, which she sadly never will

>> No.39713629

>>39713398
Why would you willing want to see ugly people? I know I dont

>> No.39713643

>>39713422
>>39713568
>>39713572
I'm glad my wife Fauna will not attend their mixer parties.

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>>39713422

>> No.39713788

>>39713422
Neither Bae, Ame, nor Ina are moving to Japan.

>> No.39713797

>>39713500
Rent free? Nobody in that group knows her, except Mori who did a 1 hour long stream with her two years ago.

>> No.39713807

>>39713767
where's gura

>> No.39713852

>Pekora number go down
>Sponsors and collabs as well as projects goes up
Hololive work in a weird way

>> No.39713875

>>39713807
Inside the bag at the right

>> No.39713881

>>39713807
shut herself in her room

>> No.39713899

>>39713875
Oh, I remember that doujin...

>> No.39713901

What happened to the Coco house anyway? Feels like everyone who was there isn't on speaking terms anymore.

>> No.39713907

>>39713852
The magician put a curse on her like some sort of evil genie

>> No.39713934

>>39713901
I mean kanata/suisei is just fine

>> No.39713945

>>39713901
Suisei keeps brining the taku dude in there

>> No.39713949

>>39713901
The sisters are at least together still.

>> No.39713953

Noel still talks to Kanata and Suisei

>> No.39713973

>>39713852
>Pekora gets 1 (uno) shilling stream under 20k
>Retard says: ">Pekora number go down"
The daily race and its consecuences have been disastrous for this thread

>> No.39714009

>>39713422
She bought a house in Japan?

>> No.39714015

>>39713901
Suisei is there and everyone hates her. Kanata hangs out with Coco but isn't allowed to talk about her anymore.

>> No.39714035

>>39713953
She never lived in that house. Doesn't she live in the same complex as Marine and Lamy now? And potentially Lui

>> No.39714039

nijisanji? more like ninjasanji lol

>> No.39714059

>>39714009
yeah but shes doesn't move into it until February so that rrat for now is thin

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Everytime I see Mori in 3D I wanna coom

>> No.39714085

>>39714035
Noel lived in the same apartment building as Suisei/Kanata/Coco but kept it a secret.

>> No.39714130

>>39714015
Coco isn't a janned topic. Roboco talked about her recently.
Kanata does seem to not hang out with her much nowadays, though.

>> No.39714132

>>39713422
>>39714070
back to your shithole hlgg cuckbeat

>> No.39714150

>>39714035
https://youtu.be/o_yuvwhRVtA
She did, but Noel has like 5 homes

>> No.39714151

>>39713973
Pekora has reclined a lot from last month, anon. Nousagi moved to Miko after they found out Pekwhora lied about living with her mom for a full year. The implications are obvious.

>> No.39714153

NijiEN still trying to abuse the "last stream" buff on the same day

https://youtu.be/Wx_hYvuCtqo
> LAST STREAM BEFORE BREAK? 【FALL GUYS】【NIJISANJI EN | Luca Kaneshiro】
https://youtu.be/Assyo9b5-po
> 【#にじARK】MY LAST STREAM BEFORE BREAK AND IT'S ARK WITH SHUBERT【NIJISANJI EN | Luca Kaneshiro】

>> No.39714183

>>39714085
I still rememver Vshojo is soo excited that they taught they will get a free holoCollab pass from kson
It turns out, its an exploding bridge lemao!

>> No.39714198

>>39714151
Meds

>> No.39714207

https://youtu.be/A3NOqdGeqcQ
Love Live Rina vtuber debut in 5 hours!

>> No.39714208

>>39714085
Oh, I didn't know that.

>> No.39714264

>>39713009
suisei is honorary niji. toko was bigger when they began collab
>>39713370
they will be between 2k-1k unless they get a surge of popularity, maybe less depending on overlap in the day and their content

>> No.39714266

>>39714207
You know Holo and Love Live will surely collab with each other soon

>> No.39714287

>>39714151
Thanks for reminding me I was going to filter 'pekwhora'.

>> No.39714290

>>39714266
Matsuri will freak

>> No.39714298

>>39714207
im@s sissies...

>> No.39714320

>>39714153
>Luca had 3 "Last stream before break" streams
These faggots just keep making the memes themselves. Fucking hell. Can't wait for the LAST STREAM BEFORE BREAK (Post last stream before break Celebration)

>> No.39714341

>>39712858
>>39713009
>>39714264
kill yourself tokofag

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Suo collabing with the theme park she saved
https://twitter.com/Suo_Sango/status/1607586914345058305

>> No.39714490

TL:DR of how things are going:
>HoloJP on top as a whole
>NijiJP still has the heavy hitters that can take a win when they do well, but by and large aren't all at that level, so mixed but strong bag
>HoloID continuing to get its participation trophy because no one really has numbers to compare them to, for good or ill
>HoloEN continues to be the #1 on the EN scene, and is practically unchallenged in that end, but both them and the EN scene in general are clearly settled in a lower bracket than JP
>NijiEN is to NijiJP what HoloEN is to HoloJP, but with the caveat that NijiEN's "heavy hitters" are losing the Mandate of Heaven and thus, their roster is subject to change in terms of "top-tier"
Seems about accurate, all things considered

>> No.39714547

>>39714490
Seems correct.

>> No.39714649

>>39714130
I don't know how you guys still don't understand that different Holos get told to do different things sometimes. Kanata got told not to bring her up anymore. She literally told everyone about it. Other people have different managers and weren't told that yet, but they will if they keep talking about her as much as Kanata used to. They actually went shopping together recently.

>> No.39714658

>>39714490
Oh, right, I forgot:
>StarsJP exists as a pet project for the CEO and gets money but there's no shits given as to whether or not they make any ROI
>StarsEN exist in a similar space to StarsJP, but with some extra success that puts them about on the same tier as NijiEN's mid-rangers

>> No.39714746

Speaking about the rager, what the absolute fuck was Mori thinking?
Literally every account describes Gura as a socially autistic reclue and she was feeling sick the entire time during the offcollab, no way she was fine staying at some stranger house while a party was blasting outside her room.
And on top of that Mori was even retarded enough to talk about it on stream, making herself look like a complete ass and potentially hurting Gura's brand image.

>> No.39714787

>>39714746
Ogey

>> No.39714808

>>39714649
clip or timestamp please

>> No.39714822

>>39714183
You replied to the wrong guy, and your post doesn't even make any sense.

>> No.39714883

>>39714658
You forgot exID and exKR

>> No.39714900

>>39714808
lol no I made it up

>> No.39714940

>>39714883
I can think of literally nothing to say about them due to no exposure, if you have any at all, it would be more than I would have had

>> No.39714948

>>39714822
He is saying they hired Kson to use her for the holomem contacts. If they did, they ducked up by hiring Rushia

>> No.39714988

>>39714883
They exist. That is all you can really say about them

>> No.39715027

>>39710295
Japs still buy a decent number of albums because theyre weird and oddly stuck in the past in some tech
Mori is just not popular there, shes the meme "Mori-san kakkoi" like how Marine is a coomer or Matsuri is a rapist to EOPs, no one actually cares about her or her shit music over there its actually really bad because UMG invested a lot in her and shes not just desperately trying to rescue a failing career, she never had one

>> No.39715034

>>39714948
>they hired someone who has literally zero public interactions with Holos for her Holo connections
I don't think so. Ironmouse has more Holo connections than her.

>> No.39715048

Kanata copying pekowhore's click bait announcement

>> No.39715051

>IRyS doesn't swear because she is aware of the expectations of CGDCT
Ame and Mori blown the fuck out

>> No.39715066

>>39714746
Maybe Gura should just nut up ay

>> No.39715090

>>39715034
Kson would be the middle man or the courier for Vshojo

>> No.39715095

>>39715051
But occasional swearing is cute.

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>>39715048

>> No.39715173

>>39715095
This however those two example by anon (Mori and Ame) often curses and not in cute way

>> No.39715186

>>39709455
Who even is that?

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did not expect to see this when checking on the latest arknights news. mindshare...

>> No.39715204

>>39715090
Kson is actually the reason they can't collab anymore

>> No.39715254

>>39715191
That Arknights writer either had absolutely no shits to give, or they're pulling WAY back to like, the Ina/Kiara tier list and going
>we can use these people, right boss? Okay, use that for footage, go for it

>> No.39715270

>>39715186
willy wonka

>> No.39715303

>>39715204
She is half the reason, did you forget the replacement Angel?

>> No.39715323

>>39714658
You know it's funny how the "stars don't generate any revenue" impression is still going so strongly when they've held 2 full gen concerts now that sold out

>> No.39715396

>>39715254
Arknights is done by the same guys who did azur lane and I assure you if they could get away with telling daddy pooh to go fuck himself and do a hololive collab they would've done so a long time ago

>> No.39715403

>>39715090
I don't know if you're completely unaware or not but Kson is blacklisted by Hololive since the moment she graduated. She was not hired for her connections to them, because she has none. And no, Vshojo did not think she did, she knows about it and told them.

>> No.39715463

>>39715403
Kson probably help get Hachama on Ironmouse interview show

>> No.39715464

>>39715095
When chat says 'we love you even if you swear all the time!' its like a kid who dumps ten salt packets on his fries expecting them to taste amazing and then realizes he fucked up so he quietly throws them all into his empty burger box and pretends he finished them.

>> No.39715467

>>39715403
Source?

>> No.39715469

>>39715323
It's not that they DON'T generate any revenue.
It's just that the status of their revenue generation is so extremely clearly irrelevant to whether or not they get the resources they do, that makes the impression strong.

>> No.39715475

>>39715403
I think you mean nijisanji, hololive was still completely fine with her right up until she joined vshojo

>> No.39715481

>>39715403
Source?

>> No.39715488

>>39715204
mouse and the tts guy had a hololive collab recently though??

>> No.39715515

>>39715173
What are you talking about Ame swearing is cute in a gap moe kind of way

>> No.39715518

>>39715488
RMs are not holos

>> No.39715531

>>39715464
>its like a kid who dumps ten salt packets on his fries expecting them to taste amazing and then realizes he fucked up so he quietly throws them all into his empty burger box and pretends he finished them.
Explain to me how that tracks with
>people being okay with a person who swears a lot
I genuinely do not understand how that example tracks with the situation you're going for

>> No.39715558

>>39715475
Haato tried to get a collab with her a year ago and management shot it down.

>> No.39715591

>>39715558
Hachama appeared on Ksons live.

>> No.39715599

>>39715558
I guess management was salty she ruined HoloCN

>> No.39715632

>>39715591
And got one or two weeks suspension

>> No.39715650

>>39715591
I'm talking about a live collab stream, not emailing a 30 second video.

>> No.39715654

>>39715599
After they learned 4/6 of the CN girls were Judas, I don't think they regret it

>> No.39715665
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>>39715632

>> No.39715689

>>39715518
mouse- magni
zentranny with ollie and risu

>> No.39715693

>>39715632
Did she? Can you prove it?
>>39715650
It still means she is not blacklisted

>> No.39715729

>>39714808
i heard she went to buy bananas in pajamas

>> No.39715737

>>39715689
>mouse and the tts guy
What about the TTfags?

>> No.39715774

>>39715693
Where is the Holo/Kson collab then? Why does she only hang out with roommates? Is your brain not smart enough to see that there is a simple reason for that?

>> No.39715787

>Kaela still inclining 3.5 hours into the stream

>> No.39715813

>>39715531
You can have too much of a 'good thing'. They only want swearing because they've had a taste of it from clips which make them feel good for seeing an "idol" break what they thought was a taboo, and they think if they get that all the time then the stream would be hilarious all the time. What happens is that it just becomes the new baseline and people quietly leave after the high wears off because the girl isn't as cute anymore. That was also the case for Kiara at the beginning where people would react with gasps of mock outrage and glee in the chat every time she swore, but when they realized that's just how she is they lost interest and stopped reacting to it.

>> No.39715836

is kaela becoming the Stable Destination Penguin now?

>> No.39715841

>>39715813
But Kiara's little shit is cute and funny

>> No.39715845

>>39715813
Okay, that makes more sense to me now

>> No.39715848

>>39715774
Blacklist is full block. Members still talk about coco and Hachama showed up to on her live. No shit they don't let them collab

>> No.39715891

>>39715774
Did Unou collab with someone from NijiJP?

>> No.39715900

>>39715599
I kinda want hololive to reopen holoCN, but based within Taiwan. They might as well captalize on accidentally recognizing the country.

>> No.39715904

>>39715848
>she's not blacklisted, they just aren't allowed to collab with her duh lol
that's what blacklist means ESLchama

>> No.39715912

Now that I think about it, is IRyS the EN with the most SC reading hours? I know making separate streams for it will turn down the average but can this shit actually affect her numbers?
Like, tourists will see a 7 hours stream and will be already turned off, then they click on that shit and it's SC reading again. Is it even worth it?

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>>39715900
>reopen holoCN
HoloLATAM

>> No.39715956

>>39715912
Kiara wins that but like, she's probably second place, PROBABLY close to Ame because of stuff like Supa Sunday for years, though?

>> No.39715981

>>39715051
I find her way of self censoring actually annoying as fuck though. Especially when she does it often enough you can tell she actually wants to curse.

>> No.39715985

ESL calling other people ESL
Ah, home

>> No.39715988

>>39715904
No it isn't dumbass

>> No.39715997

>>39715912
Who cares, she wants the money. Someone even sent an SC suggested she close them before reading to save her throat and she said no, because people might send less SCs then.

>> No.39716002

>>39715997
Source?

>> No.39716008

>>39715912
I mean altogether in EN is obviously Kiara, maybe if you actually did the math and compared them since IRyS debut to modern day IRyS may slip by, but it would be slight.

>> No.39716030

>>39715900
Chinks will spambot every holomember

>> No.39716048

>>39715904
>a list of people or things that are regarded as unacceptable or untrustworthy and should be excluded or avoided.
They still talk about her and hachama had a cameo. They did a bad job avoiding her

>> No.39716055

>>39716002
A stream, back this fall, form one of her paypigs, he even calculated the amount of time per stream she spends reading SCs to help decide if she could cut down on time.

>> No.39716085

>>39716030
Who cares?

>> No.39716108

>>39716055
Again, source, outside of
>I remember it some time

>> No.39716134

>>39715900
It is a retarded idea, but i would support it if we got Yogiri back

>> No.39716161

>>39716030
Let them. If China vs Taiwan is gonna be part of WWIII I want the catalyst that starts it to be anime girls streaming for fun.

>> No.39716246

>>39716134
Was she Taiwanese? Or Cantonese?
It's gonna have to exclude mainlanders for obvious reasons. Maybe even call it holoTW.

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... So peaceful here what happened? Christmas-New year holiday? Range ban? Or actually reclining...

>> No.39716274

>>39716048
They talk about her former life, which is impossible to avoid with how long she has been in the company, and there is no evidence that Haato got permission to send her video. I don't know if you're retarded or just desperately coping, but it's literally confirmed that they aren't allowed to collab with her. Haato tried to do it several times and couldn't, starting with a year ago when she kept mentioning Kson on stream.

Also the colloquial definition of "blacklist" in English speaking countries is "list of people to not work with", not "list of people to never speak about ever and pretend they don't exist". Actual real life company blacklists are not supposed to be public knowledge.

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>>39716030
If the chinks want to make military ages males around the world hate them even more I fail to see the problem

>> No.39716305

>>39716246
She is a delinquent. That is the only thing that matters

>> No.39716312

>>39716246
Taiwanese speak Chinese retard

>> No.39716331

>>39716257
It's literally the day after Christmas, only no life freaks like us would be spending today shitposting on this Vietnamese finger painting forum

>> No.39716348

>>39716257
Might just be thr shitstirrers being happy for once. I've finally met my family for Christmas again, first time in three years.

>> No.39716354

>>39716257
If there's no shitposters around to freak out, /#/ is unironically an extremely peaceful place, because there's no drive to communicate in the same way other generals like global or nijiEN are.
There's no need to talk about how you feel about any various Vtuber when there's nothing going on. It's just, quiet.

>> No.39716359

>>39716246
she's from the mainland

>> No.39716400

>>39716274
You are assuming that hachama didn't get permission. I'd she didn't, why did she not get punished?

>> No.39716450

>>39716312
Calling it TW would send a clear message.
Traditional looks better

>> No.39716454

>>39716030
who cares at this point?
holos could just put the entire chat on screen NND style and bathe in those spams

>> No.39716459

>>39711522
He isn’t doing sex ASMR plus he’s apparently pised the sisters off with how blatant he is at trying to be Vox 2.0

>> No.39716498

>>39714490
Without Gura holding down the fort, NijiEn trumps HoloEn

>> No.39716509

>>39716459
The main thing is that he doesn't stream at CN times so the sisters can't catch him while he's live, and also I don't know if you've noticed but Chinese interest in vox and luxiem as a whole is on the wane as of late

>> No.39716513

>>39716459
but i think he has better voice than Vox

>> No.39716536

>>39716498
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

>> No.39716537

>>39716498
You're a funny guy

>> No.39716543

>>39712241
Con appearances are for money. They’re capitalising on existing fans not bringing in new ones.

>> No.39716545

>>39716257
some anon did mention a range ban at the start of the thread

>> No.39716590

>>39712799
Mori has explicitly said she takes every single con they ask her to attend.

>> No.39716606

>>39716543
As someone who has gone to a LOT of those cons, I can tell you that they produce a lot of new fans, more than you'd think, due to the expose.
ESPECIALLY at ANYC this year, holy shit, the amount of people who stopped to check out the stuff going on was actually causing issues with the Fire Marshall.

>> No.39716621

>>39716545
Indonesia got range banned?

>> No.39716636

>>39716621
I'm still here so no

>> No.39716650

>>39713385
Guras slot is 10am JST fuck you mean 3 hours sleep?

>> No.39716664

we got a bunch of fucking shamans all over the thread talking about shit they saw in their visions after smoking a bit to much bison hair

>> No.39716672

>>39716400
First of all, she didn't get punished publicly. That doesn't mean she didn't get punished.

Secondly, and more likely, there could have been a loophole that allowed Holos to send videos like that. Kanata did something similar on her Twitter in July last year if you remember, she posted audio of Kson post graduation because there was no rule against Twitter collabs without manager permission back then. There are rules for that now which is why Kson had to stay silent in a Twitter space she was technically in back in December.

Third, Kson literally said "Haato has been trying to get permission to collab with me and management won't allow it", Haato said "hopefully I can collab with her some day", how much more clear does it have to be?

>> No.39716681

>>39716621
Indonesia isn't the problem in these threads.

>> No.39716703

>>39716536
NijiEn won this month over HololiveEn and it's gonna be the same next month unless Gura gets magically resurrected.

>> No.39716721

>>39716650
nta but she goes to bed at 7am because i keep her up all night with my dick

>> No.39716745

>>39714009
https://twitter.com/moricalliope/status/1606309188249931776?s=46&t=ISg_S1julNXqYnzuq4oB-g
It’s apparently much closer than the hour+ from IRyS and the studio she is plus she can get a cat.

>> No.39716754

>>39716703
Yeah and I suppose luxiem is going to have another 10 celebration streams next month

>> No.39716767

Stop projecting your disappointment in HoloEN to the whole of Hololive.
Hololive had their peak in almost everything this year, with Holoearth as a great ending chapter to give a glimpse of whats coming next!

>> No.39716771

that long text... i think i recognize that anon

>> No.39716772

>>39716664
I miss the good shamans

>> No.39716788

>>39715323
Stars might make positive revenue, but they're a net negative because of the opportunity cost of them taking up staff time and studio slots from the girls. Cover's studios are totally booked through 2023 (apparently). The dudes would literally make the company more money by not existing, because actually-popular talents could do more concerts and events.

>> No.39716790

>>39716703
How nice of you to admit that if Gura was around not even Luxiem's anniversary and debuts is enough to secure cripple gold.

>> No.39716798

>>39716672
Sounds like you are assuming things again. From everything we know, cover doesn't stealth suspend people.

Blocking Kson collabs is just a business decision and it's a good one

>> No.39716830

>>39715027
Is she still trying to pay back the money they lost on that sold out concert?

>> No.39716836

>>39716754
Knowing NijiEN, it's 100% possible

>> No.39716865

>>39716830
No, but now she's having to pay Apple back from backruptcy after being unable to afford the "chart topper" fees

>> No.39716869

>>39716788
Kek, keep dreaming. As long as Yagoo exists, HoloStars will still be a thing

>> No.39716872

>>39716672
The one good thing about vespers's suspension is that we now know for certain that "stealth suspension" is not a thing that cover does so any rrat that relies on that as part of it can be immediately discarded

>> No.39716901

So, can Kanata break her record today?
Did she announce her guests?

>> No.39716909

>>39716869
Of course it will. Re-read my post, where did I say they were going anywhere? It doesn't make economic sense, but Cover is a private company and Yagoo can make all the suboptimal choices he wants.

>> No.39716913

>>39716790
Oh yes, Gura has no equal atm. No denying that. But she's streaming less and less, and who knows what's up with her now.
Atm everything points at NijiEn staying in the lead.

>> No.39716923

>>39716901
It's solo so far

>> No.39716937

Wait, people here are still trying to convince others that holding concerts mean losing money?

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>>39716767
You know EN were part of that right?

>> No.39716959

>>39716901
Isn't hercord like 60k? I think 70k is achievable, and I will wish for more.
No guests yet.

>> No.39716961

>>39716937
It's too funny to ever let go

>> No.39716983

>>39716954
Your not supposed to mention that

>> No.39716993

if nepolabo beat kanata solo live.....

>> No.39717003

>>39716937
It's just someone biting bait.

>> No.39717033

>>39716901
from what I heard during the karaoke relay, its a solo 3d performance live

>> No.39717039

>NEW EN COSTUME
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1607632494005977093

>> No.39717068

>>39716937
i think it's someone that wants cover to do an anykara

>> No.39717075

>>39715191
>a clip because the original stream is still privated...

>> No.39717084

>>39717039
long haired kronii sexo
gonna get more ccv than fauna just because of the coomfactor

>> No.39717087

>>39716913
>New wave debut
>Mysta come back
>Luxiem anniversary
>Barely beat HoloEN without Gura and Ina this month
How can you expect nijien beat HoloEN next month with Ina coming back?

>> No.39717090

>>39717039
Easy 50k

>> No.39717095

>>39716798
>she's not blacklisted, she's "blocked for business reasons"
Are you retarded or just desperate to whitewash the word "blacklist" because you don't like it? I don't get it.
>>39716872
"Punish" doesn't mean "suspension". She could get a fine, get screamed at, get removed from a future event, get put under some sort of restrictions, etc.

>> No.39717097

>>39717039
Oh, nice, I hope Wada mama is having fun furiously masturbating like she does whenever she designs a new character outfit

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https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1607632494005977093?
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1607632494005977093?
https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1607632494005977093?

>> No.39717123

>>39717039
kek, mumei wasn't the next one, surprising

>> No.39717130

>>39716923
Oh, I didn't know, no chance then
>>39716959
Nah, it's 107-109k IIRC. Coco was the first to get over 100k viewers on a 3D live (In Hololive at least) with her 3D debut and Kanata was the second just a week after that

>> No.39717135

>>39717039
Wait, where is the announcement stream?

>> No.39717148

>>39716937
thats kinda like mutate niji cope from last holofest
>hololive going bankrupt because start selling concert ticket

>> No.39717151

>>39717039
ikzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
also it was not kronii holding back

>> No.39717158

>>39717112
>>39717039
>the clock is a new type of clock
That's already a good detail

>> No.39717168

>>39717039
>not mumei
Don't care. Will probably do better than fauna numbers wise tho.

>> No.39717216

>>39716937
dunno man seems like it was some tongue in cheek mocking of that post

>> No.39717220

>>39717095
Do you have prove that hachama was punished? If she wasn't, that means it's not a blacklist.

>> No.39717225

>>39717087
You do remember that Ina's numbers were around 10k? She's gonna have ~2 big streams, and it's back to normal.

>> No.39717253

>>39717039
Where the fuck is my mumei outfit you fucking whores

>> No.39717255

>>39717135
kronii is lazy

>> No.39717260

>>39717112
New clock? Nice

>> No.39717261

>>39717220
management gave her the 'vid as punishment

>> No.39717263

>>39717220
Proof, not prove. And no, that wouldn't mean there's not a blacklist.

>> No.39717281

>>39717220
when the last she included in collab shill and other sponsorship?

>> No.39717284

>>39717039
Feels really unusual for one of these to be announced without a stream

>> No.39717320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1tD0_upcjs
Is this the ultimate debuff?

>> No.39717329

>>39717039
>Long hair
nice, also I'm pretty comfortable predicting this will pull better numbers than Fauna

>> No.39717381

>>39717225
RUMAO
And nijien barely hit 6k at solo streams nowadays
Where does your confidence come from?

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>>39717039
What will the Sapling cope be when this blows Faunas reveal peak out of the water? Something about medians I'm assuming?

>> No.39717389

>>39717263
We don't know if she is blacklisted. All we can do is guess.
>>39717281
Hachama never really done sponsor stuff. Probably over a year ago

>> No.39717421

>>39717320
based debuffson

>> No.39717434

>>39717320
>Animal Crossing at midnight PST / 3 am EST
Ah, now that's the debuffson I've come to know

>> No.39717436

>>39717263
There's no blacklist, but you would know that if you weren't filthy clipwatcher

>> No.39717472

>>39717389
>We don't know if she is blacklisted.
Yes we do. She literally said so on multiple occasions. There is still no Haato/Kson collab after a year due to this blacklist.
>>39717436
cope

>> No.39717475

HoloEN in HoloEarth, as well as new costumes. It looks like NijiEN might need a lot more buff stuff to beat HoloEN next month

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>>39717039
Nice, will probably be higher than fauna. 50/60k is possible.
where's my cute wife's outfit :(

>> No.39717484

>>39717039
not even enough time to make prediction fanarts, i don't know who to blame. Kronii for her laziness or management for them failing to tardwrangle the bitch.

>> No.39717485

>>39717123
>>39717168
>>39717253
debut order

>> No.39717529

>>39717472
anon, stfu, if you want to prove it and not look as a schizo at least show the stream/clip

>> No.39717555

>>39717472
Do you have a clip/timestamp/tweet saying cover blacklisted her? It's just business decision and a good one

>> No.39717559

>>39717389
even the runt like Aki or rarely stream ayame and shion still include in famima or that amusement park collab
hachama only appear on full hololive collab like with cake.jp

>> No.39717605

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju6NjHhUiBk
so the orgy really went wild huh

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>in other news
Selen (and Naraka) got their 3.0 brushup
Why Selen in particular?
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1607632376183529472

>> No.39717647

>>39717529
>he's so new he didn't see the thousands of bait threads when Haato started talking about Kson on stream

>> No.39717648

>>39717484
Two days is totally enough to make fanart, huh?

>> No.39717679

>>39717627
she's the best of nijiEN and all her projects come from her own pocket because she loves her fans

>> No.39717689

>>39717627
it's lottery, she's just lucky.

>> No.39717722

>>39717627
>Collab with Holos
>Special treatment
Every time

>> No.39717728

>no miko stream today
guess I will just shit on sidebranch sharts today

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Hmmmm

>> No.39717775

>>39717627
assistance from nijisanji officials based on the honor system

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I'm probably slow to this news but I just now noticed the main Hololive twitter account got business verified

>> No.39717795

>>39717627
lottery

>> No.39717797

>>39717627
Honorary Holo

>> No.39717805

Hololive are trying their best to win gold for the 29th but there's just no chance that they're going to beat NJU Day 1

>> No.39717811

>>39717559
https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3A%40hololivetv%20%40akaihaato
Hachama has only been mentioned twice from the main Twitter since the Taiwan thing. You can also turndown sponsors, so she can say no

>> No.39717815

>>39717754
she helping pekora again...

>> No.39717843

>>39717805
and all i can say is meds, please

>> No.39717872

>>39713901
They all moved out

>> No.39717905

>>39717794
slowchama, it's been days

>> No.39717909

>>39717555
>there's no way that happened, prove it lmao
>anyway it's a great idea I'm glad they did it
How do you live your life, being that stupid all the time?

Also blacklists are always business decisions. Blacklist is a business thing. I don't know what the fuck your English teacher in Indonesia told you it meant but they were wrong.

>> No.39717922

>>39717811
>turndown sponsors
kek

>> No.39717945

>>39717794
weird, anycolor doesn't have it

>> No.39717967

>>39717805
EN gold for sure

>> No.39717971

>>39717909
Not every Collab block is a blacklist.

>> No.39718049

It's going to be no tits kronii...

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they hate salome?

>> No.39718121

>>39718087
What do you mean? She is in P-block

>> No.39718142

>>39717971
Blocking one particular collab because they think particular stream is bad isn't a blacklist. Blocking literally all collabs with a single person because they don't want to associate with that person at all is a blacklist. That's literally what blacklist means. You keep posting "she's not blacklisted, she's just [synonym for blacklisted]". She's blacklisted. The way that they treat her is how blacklisted people on blacklists are treated, because she's blacklisted and that's what blacklist means. I hope you know what the word means now.

>> No.39718161

>>39717805
NJU is like the one cool thing Niji does all year, they better win gold, or what's the point?

>> No.39718172

>>39718087
anon... Your salami reps

>> No.39718176

>>39717794
You can have a square twitter profile picture?

>> No.39718194

>>39718121
So everyone has accepted Debit is Salome now?

>> No.39718197

>>39718087
She's at group P blindchama

>> No.39718223

Kronii got 48k during CCVID so 50k is guaranteed. Question is can she reach 60k considering she hasn't even shilled it

>> No.39718229 [DELETED] 

>>39717905
I may be slow but at least I'm not as slow as this guy
>>39717945

>> No.39718236

>>39718161
>One cool thing
Koshien, MariKa, Mahjong, and basically every Nijisanji event in existence would like to have a word with you

>> No.39718240

>>39718142
>Hachama tweeting at her and having a cameo on her live
That's the most flexible blacklist in the history of business.

>> No.39718277

>>39717922
Fauna does it and hachama comes from money>>39717971

>> No.39718289

>>39718223
>50k is guaranteed.
What if she show it from top? Polka style

>> No.39718320

>>39718289
It's gonna take 10 minutes just to scroll up her legs

>> No.39718426

>>39718223
Kronii will get less than Fauna

>> No.39718482

i'm not much watching hacamaa but or any particular holo JP, i just being hako oshi, and yes sometime i forget hachama and rarely see her on any collab goodies
dunno she blocklist or not, but i know she enjoy debuffing her self

>> No.39718521

>>39718482
It's probably because of the Taiwan thing

>> No.39718553

>>39718426
I'm pretty sure no one actually believes that. You should try Kronii will get less than Selen if you want a better bait angle.

>> No.39718588

only falseflaggers will say that kronii can get more than fauna. She can;t even get 5k reliably nowadays.

>> No.39718652

>>39718236
Yeah but I like NJU more than all of those and am likely to watch it. No matter what dressings are put on a game tournament, it's just not my thing and I won't show up.

>> No.39718670

>>39718588
any Chuba that belittles their audience will not get redemption, especially EN

>> No.39718728

JWU, 50k what and for what?

>> No.39718748

>>39718728
scroll up

>> No.39718778

>>39718728
Kronii is getting a new costume. It might be sex

>> No.39718779

>>39718748
I did that's why I had the question

>> No.39718803

>>39718779
blindchama...

>> No.39718813

If HoloEarth is released in 3 years it will be mogged by minecraft 2

>> No.39718848

nijisanji has a lot of rosters to do great collabs with, I enjoyed watching them even though I didn't watch every chuba involved in that event
nijisanj understand what they have, so every nijisanji event will only make the name of nijisanji big but not for those who participate
that's not wrong but seem morally wrong

>> No.39718851

>>39718240
>she's not allowed to collab (the important thing that she actually wants) but she got two meaningless gestures, a tweet and a 15 second video so that means she's not blacklisted and there's nothing stopping her from collabing
It's getting hard to believe that you aren't fucking with me.

>> No.39718865

>>39717284
just goes to show how little she cares about streaming

>> No.39718867

>>39718813
Holoearth will just take the good shit from Minecraft 2

>> No.39718881

>>39718813
>anon thing holoearth is a video game

>> No.39718886

>>39718240
>>39718851
shut up both of you

>> No.39718915

>>39718813
wait theres a minecraft 2, how long did I sleep?

>> No.39718919

>>39718851
You can talk to a blacklist person in corporate accounts and show up to their events?
>>39718886
No

>> No.39718949

>>39718915
yes, there is and it will be the next buff game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o77MzDQT1cg

>> No.39718954

>>39718919
Yes. The government can also blacklist a company from government contracts but you can still meet your congressman at events and say hello to him.

>> No.39718994

>>39718954
They meet in public? Or privately?

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