/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

What's up with the sponsorship form Hololive to VRchat? The girls aren't even going to participate

>>39660404
Recent clip numbers
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzXYoKY9hf8
How tight is the schedule for the 2023 Holo Roadmap?

>>39660404
>>39660425
/#/ with the best thread images again. Whoever you are. I appreciate your choices o7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpjpA_C2yE
Hell fuck yeah.

* YESTERDAY’S FINAL TALLY *
>127,295: Toya (Nijisanji)
>88,525: Suisei (Hololive)
>84,190: Pekora (Hololive)
>82,690: Miko (Hololive)
>79,770: Kanata (Hololive)
>78,229: Marine (Hololive)
>77,121: Aqua (Hololive)
>74,262: Towa (Hololive)
>73,903: Chloe (Hololive)
>71,967: Iroha (Hololive)
>66,849: Shion (Hololive)
>66,251: Luna (Hololive)
>66,021: Mio (Hololive)
>65,651: Watame (Hololive)
>64,997: Fubuki (Hololive)
>62,935: Flare (Hololive)
>62,580: Ayame (Hololive)
>61,869: Mio (Hololive)
>61,330: AZKi (Hololive)
>59,241: Koyori (Hololive)
>58,709: Noel (Hololive)
>53,051: Roboco (Hololive)
>52,284: Lui (Hololive)
>52,199: Rosenthal (Hololive)
>50,956: Sora (Hololive)
>49,766: Polka (Hololive)
>44,116: Pekora (Hololive)
>42,382: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>41,630: Nene (Hololive)
>38,442: Botan (Hololive)
>38,334: Matsuri (Hololive)
>37,731: Choco (Hololive)
>35,142: Fuyuki (Nijisanji)
>34,756: Mio (Hololive)
>31,091: Toko (Nijisanji)
>25,088: Akina (Nijisanji)
>23,873: Akina (Nijisanji)
>21,462: Subaru (Hololive)
>18,335: Furen (Nijisanji)
>17,133: Lamy (Hololive)
>16,382: Nui (Nijisanji)
>15,926: Koyori (Hololive)
>15,674: Iroha (Hololive)
>14,919: IRyS (Hololive)
>14,790: Met (774 inc)
>14,393: Yashiro (Nijisanji)
>13,650: Ibrahim (Nijisanji)
>13,382: Uki (Nijisanji)
>12,461: Met (774 inc)
>12,445: Kronii (Hololive)
>11,826: Tamaki (NoriPro)
>11,712: Miko (Hololive)
>11,027: Ame (Hololive)
>10,764: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,428: Shiina (Nijisanji)
>10,286: Lui (Hololive)

>>39660547
holy shit

>>39660476
a DJ showcase. Probably a good chance of Holosongs being played

>>39660547
HYPE holy shit im looking forward to the VOD of that one. Cant catch it live unfortunately

>>39660547
>god of trannies

>>39660506
Not surprised that Mio would be a low priority holo

>>39660391
OH NONONO THE HOLOLIVE MINDCHAIR

>>39660560
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal
18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals
19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori
20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab
22) Watame (Hololive) - 39,051 - Clubhouse 51 gyakutotsu
23) Lilpa (Isegye Idol) - 72,400 - 3D live
24) Marine (Hololive) - 112,194 - Sister Marine gyakutotsu
25) Toya (Nijisanji) - 127,295 - TouPea Christmas 2022

>PER COMPANY
16x: Hololive
8x: Nijisanji
1x: Isegye Idol

>PER STREAMER
6x: Pekora
3x: Miko, Toya
2x: Mio, Nijisanji
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Lilpa, Marine, Towa, Watame

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
236x: Hololive
110x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Isegye Idol, Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
57x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
17x: Nijisanji
16x: Salome, Subaru
11x: Marine
9x: Toya
8x: Mio
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Watame, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Lilpa, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Yorumi, Zeta

>>39660547
KEK, now what Mori?

>>39660547
Returnal would be a good game for botan to play than GOW

>>39660547
Calli status?

>>39660619
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
236x: Hololive
107x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
54x: Pekora
37x: Miko
29x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
16x: Suisei
15x: Subaru
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
229x: Hololive
110x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
33x: Pekora
30x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
8x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Ibrahim, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gaku, Gatchman, Haachama, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kohaku, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1607239824007909377
gorilla-chan in JP7

I want to marry mane chan.....

*YESTERDAY’S FINAL EN TALLY*

>12/25 DAILY TALLY
14,919: IRyS (Hololive)
13,382: Uki (Nijisanji)
12,445: Kronii (Hololive)
11,027: Amelia (Hololive)
8,250: Baelz (Hololive)
7,795: Luca (Nijisanji)
6,868: Mysta (Nijisanji)
5,738: Millie (Nijisanji)
5,275: Kiara (Hololive)
5,215: Hex (Nijisanji)
5,158: Ike (Nijisanji)

>EN GOLD FOR DECEMBER
1. Selen (Nijisanji) - 10,488 (Birthday Celebration)
2. Gura (Hololive) - 29,931 (Unarchived Karaoke)
3. IRyS (Hololive) - 9,071 (Ring Fit Adventure)
4. Gura (Hololive) - 17,498 (Fifa 23)
5. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 22,040 (Return Stream)
6. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 9,326 (Not clicking on the stream to find out what it is)
7. Maria (Nijisanji) - 8,755 (All day 24 hour birthday stream)
8. Gura (Hololive) - 14,660 (The Callisto Protocall)
9. IRyS (Hololive) - 12,271 (JP Song Karaoke)
10. Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 (Vtuber Debut)
11. Fauna (Hololive) - 42,767 (New Outfit Reveal)
12. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 11,555 (Getting Over It)
13. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 10,263 (Simulacra)
14. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 21,166 (1 Million Subscribers Endurance)
15. Fungus (Nijisanji) - 30,277 (Quick talk)
16. Meloco (Nijisanji) - 21,769 (Debut Karaoke)
17. Mysta (Nijisanji) - 17,543 (HANDCAM)
18. Luca (Nijisanji) - 18,712 (Unarchived Karaoke)
19. Baelz (Hololive) - 13,291 (Newly Friend Game w/Marine)
20. Vox (Nijisanji) - 41,650 (Anniversary Gameshow)
21. Shu (Nijisanji) - 30,335 (Anniversary Debut Reaction)
22. Amelia (Hololive) - 10,571 (GeoGuessr)
23. Vox (Nijisanji) - 14,711 (Unarchived Karaoke)
24. Uki (Nijisanji) - 12,416 (Unarchived Karaoke)
25. IRyS (Hololive) - 14,919 (Unarchived Karaoke)

>GOLD PER COMPANY
Hololive - 9
Nijisanji - 16
Others - 0

>GOLD PER STREAMER
5x: Mysta
3x: Gura, IRyS
2x: Meloco, Vox
1x: Selen, Maria, Hex, Fauna, Fungus, Luca, Baelz, Shu, Amelia, Uki

>POINTS PER STREAMER (gold = 5pts, silver = 3pts, bronze = 1pt)
36p: Mysta
19p: Fauna
18p: Gura, IRyS
12p: Vox
11p: Meloco
10p: Amelia
9p: Mumei
8p: Hex, Fungus, Baelz, Luca, Uki
7p: Vox
6p: Shu, Kiara
5p: Selen, Maria, Kronii
4p: Mori
3p: Ike, Noir, Ver, Millie, Enna, Alban
1p: Petra, Pippa, Pomu

>>39660547
never get the hype for this game
it felt like a demo

>>39660547
Konami....

>giggle
>I just stick it in here?
>Oh I just stick this shit in here
axel is a smooth operator

>>39660781
can we have the January one now

>>39660822
Bros... this is the true brotuber experience

>>39660612
Who the fuck even is that

You guys do remember Miko getting to do 1 (UNO) Spiderman stream and nobody else ever getting to play it right?

>>39660781
Can't wait for Omegay's stream oh wait

>>39660506
Wtf that's a 1.5+ year backlog
Cover badly needs another studio
Lives are like their bread and butter now
Instead they're wasting funds and staff on holostars and holoalt...

Good week for Ame

>>39660822
Sister, you better go back to mans before I report you for off topic as you are discussing a person who does not stream as a vtuber.

>>39660917
She's the #2 HoloEN this month

>>39660847
If that is what a brotuber does I think I'm good. I thought the term meant streamers who are more like Pewdiepie, Markiplier, or Jacksepticeye.

>>39660560
of course with almost 0 funnels again.

>>39660822
Reminder he doesn't accept No.
He will fuck that pussy again tonight

>>39660917
Now back to indie games, watchalongs and Overwatch

>>39660822
Cuck content

>>39661036
Pretty sure management had "the talk" with her about her content

What the fuck is this?

Did anyone seriously doubt that she'd get the highest in the holo Xmas relay?

>>39661036
i want a watchalong i got a movie selected when she polled members like 6 months ago for a list of movies she would do and shes done like 2 out of 5 only since.

>>39660917
1. Ame
2. Fauna
3. IRyS
4. Bae
5. Kronii
6. Mumei
7. Mori
8. Kiara

I think the cold chicken made Pekora's mindshare so strong that everyone in Japan knows about her.

>>39661091
NijiEN sisters

>>39661091
Mandate of Heaven

>>39661091
NijiEN content, NijiEN graph.

>>39661091
his stream is buffering a lot for me. maybe that's the cause.

>>39660917
...bros....is she back?

>>39661091
niji talent gets a niji graph

>>39660956
Honestly this is more of an indicator of how far other EN have reclined (or died)
Or perhaps, how well each EN can survive with practically 0 tourists and an anemic EN box

>>39661158
A good general makes good use of the available resources
A great general use both his own and his enemies' resources to his advantage.

Pekora is a great general.

>>39661115
Of course I did, there were several popular and good singers during prime time slots.

>>39661115
If Marine had prime time she would have gotten 200k

Fuck holowhores, i am gonna join stars and get a cute jp mane chan to flirt with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EMeIzj2mnA
>new contender from big player
destined to be flop?

>>39661145
In median not yet, Fauna is still at 11k and Ame is like 10.5k, with the next closest being IRyS all the way down at 7.3k

Axel got the record for the fastest privated VOD ever
Omedetou!

>>39660907
solo live concert always on venue not on their own studio

>>39661566
How did the Love Live one do?

>>39661585
Finally record NijiEN can't break

>>39661657
wait?? they also have one?

HoloEN medians this month
Gura: 16,058 (4 streams)
Fauna: 8,768 (15 streams)
Ame: 8,399 (9 streams)
IRyS: 7,370 (14 streams)
Mumei: 6,630 (19 streams)
Bae: 5,997 (20 streams)
Kronii: 5,531 (8 streams)
Mori: 5,117 (19 streams)
Kiara: 4,243 (11 streams)

>>39661639
do... do you think they cart a couple hundred thousand dollar calibrated camera tracking set up out of their studio to the venue just so they can capture the data on premises?

>>39660967
>He didn't watch the Markiplier fanfic making video with the bros
Ngmi

>>39661783
>Gura leaves
>suddenly Ame starts trying
Was Gura bullying Ame?

Ina sighting

>>39661239
I mean, either that or Karaoke #12, AFTER nearly a whole day of karaoke from JP

>>39661829
>Bad dragon
HOLD THE FUCK ON

>>39661783
Fauna#2

>>39661827
yeah, in bed

>>39661914
>Barely beating ame in a month where she had an outfit reveal and 2 karaokes
Yea no

>>39661783
Why do Sapkeks try to focus on medians like it means jack shit? That means any EN that does more zatus than usual will always be on the low end of the lest. The only thing that matters is how many people show up to your big events.

>>39661827
Gura has the rights to bully Ame, don't you remember the diaper?

>>39661783
Kneel to the #2 of EN

>>39661783
Is it just me or is this an incline for the whole bottom end and basically everyone except IRyS?

>>39661785
I wanted to reply to something about how retarded you are, but I was still too shocked at how retarded you were

>>39662030
Right back at you buddy

>>39662004
Oddly enough IRyS is 1.3k lower than before her redesign

my cute wife

>>39661955
Sapkeks are retarded. Medians for a month are always skewed and not really accurate as a measurement. Bae is over kronii but that's only because bae has spammed buff the whole month. Ame is only that high because of low sample size and the majority of her streams have been tourist bait. Meanwhile people like mumei and Mori are under represented because of the sheer amount of neutral/debuff streams they've done this month.

>>39662071
Well her character arc has reached a conclusion so it makes sense

>>39661995
Dont use my oshi to shitpost

>>39662030
So you do think they record the 3d lives at the venue?
Never lose that innocence, anon. I bet you go to Disneyland and think that Ariel is really a mermaid too. And honestly, good for you, reality sucks so why live in it?

>>39661585
>From this month alone he already privated 3 (three) streams
Damn that retard

>>39662071
Her idol journey reached its apotheosis, no point watching her anymore

>>39661995
Only one to get an outfit reveal this month
Unironically what the fuck happened to the other outfits?

>>39662004
If by bottom end you mean only bae, Kiara and Mori sure. But that's mostly because bae has a shit ton of collabs and buffed up streams this month as well as constant late funnels and raids.

>>39662100
>>39662170
Nice reminder that the story arcs are not a meme

>>39662133
proving something on anonymous board or winning argument on internet really not my thing, you do you, i know what i know

>>39662121
She's my oshi to fag, and her being 2nd is a joyous occasion

>>39662170
No, she still have
1. Her first 3D
2. Her first hit single
3. Collab with all her JP senpais
4. Get her orisongs in the best seller #1 spot
5. 50k ccv unarchived Karaoke
6. Redesign 3.0

>>39661585
What'd he do to get it privated?

>>39662234
that's called a cope and i hope i didn't take away your enjoyment out of it

>>39662257
Only one of those will ever happen

>>39662273
How is that coping?

>>39661995
> Ame at 3rd behind Gura and her disciple
Is...is she back? She's also streaming tomorrow

>>39662257
Council and IRyS will never have 3D, stop dreaming. They're in Hololive, not Nijisanji.

>>39661827
maybe it's like when miko had to take a long health break and Pekora declared that she would protect this place until she returned

Pekora is a little bit stronger than Ame though

>>39662234
>had her outfit reveal stream counted
>still sub 10k ccv on average

>>39662305
Was meant for
>>39661783

>>39662346
Still 2nd

updated rankings after taking a look at everyone's numbers this month
1. Gura
2. Fauna
3. IRyS/Mumei (really depends which one debuffs themselves more)
4. Ame (probably will fuck herself next month)
5. Kronii
6. Bae (inflated median due to a large amount of buff streams)
7. Mori
8. Kiara

>>39662270
>>39661804

>>39662337
Kek, and then Miko decided to rape Pekora

>>39662378
IRyS is not doing that great this month anon
If you wanna post a random ranking at least back it up with some data

Why did Mysta private his recent stream? I swear whenever I see this happen with him and Vox I can’t help but think they’re just making an excuse to scrub a poor showing off

Suisex in 25 minutes with Mario Kart. Seems like she wants to regain her throne

fuck off greenturd

>>39662409
I don't see how it's a good idea to paint him as a playboy. Feels like it's gonna backfire hard one day and hurt the brand.

>>39662409
Sisters really trying hard to gaslight people thinking that the yab just happened is a good thing. Just like the Vesper suspension shits.

>>39662441
the sinful woman led her on, how could you interpret it as anything other than a declaration of love

>>39662337
a bit is an understatement

>>39662440
She has solid regular 6-7k streams with one oopsie with the drawing stream along with 12k + karaokes.
It's the same with mumei.
Ame on the other hand has only been spamming buff streams since she came back.

>>39662377
>Still 2nd
That is not what you said when I showed you this.

>>39662515
That's not this month though?

>>39662409
They really don't even try acting like real Holostars huh

>>39662515
Must have been a different anon, cause I said
>Gura
>IRyS
>Fauna
>Mumei
Also Median > Average

>>39662513
>3AM guerrilla silver ranked Overwatch
>buff

>>39662515
That's last months tho?

>>39662513
The last week of IRyS has been spamming buffs, it's just she has a shit ceiling and it didn't work out for her.

>>39662555
>Median > Average
So this one?

>>39662471
paint him? he just need to tell the stories of his life
>>39662487
no, everything was fucking funny and understandable if he gets suspended or graduate

>>39662515
>only 2 above 10k
GRIM
>GRIM
GRIM
>GRIM
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>GRIM
GRIM
>GRIM
GRIM
>GRIM
GRIM

>>39662578
So what you're saying is, is that Fauna inclined from 3rd to 2nd in a month

>>39662574
Just ignore irystocrats trying to prop up their oshi

>>39662578
Why are you posting last months when it's almost the end of this one? You're trying to discredit Fauna in some way while using a chart where IRyS had a return stream with an announcement, redesign reveal, milestone karaoke etc, and only 6 streams.

>>39662491
Can you really blame a lion when you dump a juicy piece of meat in its path?

>>39662602
Stop shitposting and finish your salad before mommy's home, sapling.

Oh the Holoearth 3Dlive stage is set up. This is a pretty brilliant way to do a concert

>>39660907
Solo lives are not the same thing as 3d lives, newfag.

>>39662574
It's quite mindboggling how IRyStocrats continue to talk so highly of their oshi. Her numbers have only been going down since her outfit reveal.

>>39662631
It even gave us the PekoMiko daughter herself

>>39662318
>will never have 3D
Don't look at the lineup for 4th fes.

Holy shit just ban all saplings and Irystocrats from this thread I do not care

>>39662625
Read the reply chain. I said that sub 10k as second place is not something to be celebrated, but the sapling said "still second", which is why I took out the chart and remind them that how much they cope about IRyS being second this month. With the replies I got from the chart, seems like they are still coping.

>>39662648
Pic?

>>39662440
I have no care whatsoever about power rankings here but you guys are being way too critical about her performance. The streams that are being targeted as “poor” are streams on the week of Christmas where people in general are fixated on shit outside of watching streams. Especially the draw stream, which was essentially just her drawing icons for winners. That was never gonna be a big stream to begin with.
It’s like the underperformance by Fauna today. You just aren’t going to collect a bunch of views from places where viewers are occupied with other things. Or Selen today as another example. The girl who gets 10k+ karaokes getting sub 7k today?

I feel like people (like you) are tunneling too hard on just surface level thinking. You can make the argument that everyone announcing breaks, including Gura, the biggest vtuber of them all, put a damper on a lot of viewers moods enough to just chill in the back instead of tuning into streams. Hell, EN has been on a decline ever since Ina’s break. If you aren’t active, neither are your fans. So it could easily just be circumstances all around the scene that’s more noteworthy than just “lol bad number”

>>39662648
Post image

>>39662680

>>39662695
IRyS isn't second this month, with Gura, if you want to count her 4 streams, she's 4th.

>>39662700
>>39662366
>>39662367

So what's the real gold for tonight?

Both Fauna ans IRyS are failures, that’s for sure

>>39662705
Didn't stop Ame from getting multiple 10ks without karaoke while IRyS ugly sweater contest couldn't hit 8k

>>39662680
Would you like me to talk about my cute wife instead?

>>39662725
>get in here
how

>>39662705
I would agree with you until the 'lol bad number' part.
>lol bad number
is real this time. I've never seen a decline this deep, this certain, and this permanent in EN sphere since Myth debut.

>>39662757
Ame is entertaining

>>39662760
Your attempt at deflecting is pathetic, sapling

>>39662409
Manager will probably get in trouble, they were supposed to keep quiet and she ended up giggling like schoolgirl.

>>39662725
Pretty basic but since it's just a stress test it's fine. Since the environment is full virtual I hope they can make it like Suisei's MGO concert. That was the second best vtuber concert ever.

>>39662409
>manager
it was actually nodoka

HoloEarth needs to handle at least 10k people in order for the game to be safe

Saw some posts about how management was telling Tempus what their personalities should be like
>>39662586
>>39662643
>>39662743
Is this real or bullshit? Are the girls treated the same way?

Yesterday was pretty fun. Today even the shitpostings feel weak.

>>39662884
Would explain the constant shilling. They must have had a lot of hope riding on them, hilarious how they crashed and burned so quickly

>>39662884
We are not interested in your shitty rrat, sisters.

>>39662884
Anon it could be as simple as
>don't act like a fucking retard
>don't act like a whore
>don't act like a schizo

>>39662875
Not even Zuckerberg's Metaverse can do that.

>>39662884
I hope the endgame turbs out good, because these additions to stars do a lot to break both kayfabe and norms.

>>39662757
And your post is exactly why I said “surface level thinking” because the number is all you’re looking at right now. You couldn’t even provide a reason why.

It could be that the streams were more interesting and had more engaging content that ALL fans could get into, rather than just irystocrats. Another thing, and something that actually matters in the context of holidays, is that Ame streams /after/ the festivities are over and people are winding down. Her karaoke yesterday began at 10PM EST and her stream today, 11PM EST. That’s a compelling enough reason to understand why she was getting 10k’s, or a guerilla karaoke from Kronii getting 10k in just a few minutes, while Bae’s early karaoke was flatlining at 5k. Actually, you can literally see both IRyS and Bae’s viewership go up and up as time goes on and people become less occupied on holidays with family and friends.

This is why it’s dumb to just say “well this person got X number and that person got Y number!” You gotta see what else is going on dude

Damn I can't believe peanuts won gold

>>39662963
>don't act like a fucking retard
>Axel literally can't stop
>the JP heads gave up

>>39663000
Dude your argument summed up is that it's the Holidays and the audience is not there, which is just not true as evidenced by Ame's streams. It's honestly unuiroinic cope that you say the audience isn't there for x streamer but it is for others due to the Holidays.

>>39662757
1 came from karaoke, other is a 3d object showcase and third is a handcam

>>39662884
Sounds like JP management is gonna lay down the hammer on EN management if they fuck up since they're going against their judgement. The Vesper thing happening right after they ignored JP management was probably a warning to them.

>>39663025
Crazy stuff, man. I'll have some nuts with my beer tonight, in his honor.

https://youtu.be/3EMeIzj2mnA
[breaking news]IDOLM@STER IS JUMPING ON THE VTUBER BANDWAGON!
a new Idolmaster group called vα-liv ("V Alive") will debut in Spring 2023. the characters are designed by Morikura En (Kizuna Ai's mama)

>>39663000
IRyStocrats love to come up with paragraphs handwaving bad numbers, every single time lmao

>>39660781
Predictions?
I checked last year because I forgot and I couldn't believe she only got 45k

>>39663071
good

>>39663096
I just don't read mucho texto

>>39663090
Nijisanji tier?

>>39663107
She'll get 50k if she's lucky

>>39663063
There were 3 non karaoke 10ks and stop acting like an ugly sweater contest and review is not buff content.

>>39663090
How will this affect Hololive? Since this will compete directly with their niche, and we know how idolfags works

Now that the dust has settled, who had the best performance in the relay yesterday? I personally think Kanata blew it out the ballpark with both her God-tier setlist and her sovlful performance of said songs, which is also why she got such high numbers.

>>39663000
TLDR: instead of sticking with her usual timeslot IRyS decided to jump at Gura's, and instead of thinking about something actually fun she stopped at the idea of licking paypiggies' asses.
Shit decisions -> shit numbers.

>>39663096
I don't read their dogshit tbqh

>>39663047
Why did you reply without reading the post lmao

>>39663090
It's literally idol chuubas, so I'll give them a chance. Doesn't sound like they'll go the Niji route, amd if they succeed they might even get to collab with hololive.

>>39662970
meanwhile on REALITY app

>>39663149
From the very little info given, it looks like they'll only do concerts, songs, but no game streams(?). Idol stuff basically

>>39663000
Bae's karaoke got fucked at 5k because IRyS started 30 minutes before her. I bet if they started at the same time IRyS still gets more but it would be much closer. Also they both steadily inclined as they became the waiting room for the JP karaoke relay, if you can't see that you're just retarded.

>>39663107
60k-70k. Had early onset CCVID been found last year?

If HoloEarth becomes a success, Hololive will be unbeatable in their niche. Which vtuber company can brag they can pump out games and high quality 3D concerts at the same time?

10K till 40M lads!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kQ2GtvDV3s
also the comments making fun of Rushia kek

>>39662884
>Are the girls treated the same way?
I vaguely recall IRyS talking about playing up her cutesy voice at the behest of management.

>>39663184
very likely. bamco and hololive are chummy with each other.

>>39662184
That’s 3/8

>>39663123
versen tier most probably. their main draw is their game and that doesn't translate very well for vtubers

>>39663182
I did, and you literally blamed the lower viewership on Holiday shit, which is just dumb. Holdays only affect one vtuber streaming two hours earlier than the other. It's literaly cope to believe that.

>>39663227
>Waiting room for Jp relay
Alright anon you can get off your meds. The relay didn’t start until 4+ hours after IRyS streamed. That’s not a waiting room dude

>>39662071
Just wait for 3.0 bro

You just know he looks like a kpop model

>>39663071
>spreading this rrat again
There is no way Vesper's thing is about management. Kiara shitting on management hard every day and yet she is still fine and management never ask her to tone it down. Vesper's "I was just a little angry at moments" is just a cover up for something more serious that no one is able to tell us the truth without damaging his reputation.

What Axel did today just show us that Tempus has no ideal how to be a vtuber under a corpo. No vtuber avatar, huge, almost screenwide handcam that will make nijiEN shy, and pushing his head into the camera. I don't mind that him feeding his manager, because women like this shit and his audiences are the sisters. It is just that if they are not even pretending to care about their character, then it is no different from going flesh.

>>39662257
1/6 is good right?

>>39663320
>Tempus makes life harder for StarsJP

>>39663149
Just look at https://youtube.com/@gemscompany5572

>>39663285
Are you retarded, it was only one hour after they ended that the relay started, and Ame and Kronii were starting as well as they finished. Why do you act like Holos don't beome waiting rooms for each other streams?

>>39662513
We all know viewer submission is a huge debuff compared to OW2 at 3am.

>>39663356
That has nothing to do with what I posted.

>>39663279
The lengthy post sounds like cope, but you have to be stupid to think that people aren't getting less busy into the night. Guests usually don't stay till midnight.

>suisei stream at this hour
Who is this

I thought this was Pekora lol
Either way Youtube been recommend me a lot of 2-3views, more than Niji and Holo actually

>>39663367
ANON. PLEASE READ POSTS JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.
>The relay started 4 hours after IRyS started
IRYS STREAMED 3 HOURS. THE RELAY DIDNT START UNTIL 2 HOURS AFTER IRYS ENDED.

That’s not a fucking waiting room when the relay is 5 fucking hours away

>>39663426
She literally jwu

>>39662725
Aren’t they meant to be streaming this on the main channel? Waiting room doko

>>39663433
Can Pekora even stream from the lostbelts onwards?

>>39663434
Hey retard, read the fucking post. Mio started one hour after IRyS and Bae ended, and you saying the relay started 5 hours after them s false, and a waiting room does not begin at the start of the stream. They become waiting rooms as the other streams get closer, hence their incline. Also Ame and Kronii were strting almost right after Bae and IRyS ended, making their karaoke streams a good waiting room. IRyS started at 10JST and the relay started 1400.

Why are IRyStocrats consistently trying to put down other chuubas? Other fanbases don't act like this.

>>39663526
They cope more than any fanbase on this board. Terminal small dog syndrome.

>>39663162
Don't kid yourself, she got high numbers because she was sandwiched between Miko and Pekora

>>39663320
They are following nijien example as they are successful unlike starsjp. Though why they are so desperate for success who knows. Holoen future is so uncertain right now because of this.

>>39663241
And i just added anyother view. What a good song

>>39663526
The nijiniggers do

So now that Ame is back, can we make this /ameg3/?

And we're going back to doomposting about HoloEN again. Aren't you bored?

>>39663585
No

>CCVID is beginning to spread
Oh boy. Here we go again

>>39663554
NijiEN at least is trying to maintain the vtuber kayfabe.

>>39663595
C'mon anon doomposting is fun

>>39663585
Wait a week she will debuff herself somehow.

>>39663585
If she can maintain a 30k to 40k ccv average like the top holos then maybe

>>39663620
Can't wait for the inevitable guerrilla while overlapping a karaoke/debut/remodel/outfit

>>39663585
You tards don't even own global anymore.

>>39663606
What now?

>>39663607
Luca was on the edge with that picture and probably would have gone even harder if management didn't step in.

>>39663216
It's probably not different from what 22/7 is doing back then Sally Amaki is too good for this wod, but this time they're going to be hard carried by the idolmaster branding, so they're going to have a decently-sized fanbase.

>slow thread
where are the bitches at?

Is this true? >>39663513

>>39663706
Too busy going into the HoloEarth lobbys

>>39663585
If anything, it's a good indication that her bad numbers is a self-inflicted issue, and Tempus did jackshit to her, contrary to the opinion being pushed here for a while.

is it really a debuff when her numbers right now came from buff??

>>39663636
That remind me, not like First Army is that strong this month either. Only Miko break 30k+ regularly with her explosive Pokemon arc

>>39663673
After seeing today's display from the dumb Aussie in the other company, Luca will see it as a challenge. Imagine a Luca offcollab where he cooks with one of the NijiEN girls and then hand feeds her as she giggles...

https://twitter.com/RedBullGamingJP/status/1607267952579194881
https://twitter.com/RedBullGamingJP/status/1607267952579194881

>>39663725
>do buff content in primetime
>get decent numbers
HOLY FUCK THIS NIGGER CRACKED THE CODE

>>39663719
NO

>>39663719
I didn’t read it or look but yes

>>39663725
All the Tempus onaholes have been bottom of the barrel for a while now so I doubt you'll convince anyone that it has nothing to do with the stream of homo collabs.

Christmas party offcollab at Suisei's place tonight, her mother will cook. Confirmed guests are Towa, Flare, and Watame.

>>39663740
He is planning to meet with Meloco right at this moment.

>>39663746
Didn't we already know this or am I misremembering?

>>39663725
The narrative here before the whole Tempus shit was that her numbers were always a result of her own doing, and they were reclining long before Tempus. That part got forgotten in the culture war shitfest that happened afterwards.

>>39663746
ame deserves the sponsors more than them when she is continuing to get back in her prime

so 16-14 for this month? not bad for niji

>>39663791
Are they going to stream an off collab or are these lost numbers? Also pics or it didn't happen

>>39663791
Blue woman gold TODAY

>>39663740
i don't know but do you think NijiEN females will try to collab with Axel?

>>39663836
Nice joke

>>39663585
>12,913 Hakos Baelz
>11,647 Watson Amelia
No. In fact this should be a second split for Bae.

>>39663851
Last year they didn't stream it

>>39663818
ame deserves to be bleeding out in a ditch

>>39663765
>>39663780
which one?

>>39662515
Can we get the full chart with JP please chart anon. For the full 2022 year so far if possible

>>39663883
Assblasted irystokek deflection post

>>39663882
The numbers...

>>39663901
I am not the chart anon. Usually chart anon will do the chart on the first day of the month.

>>39663090
Oof looks like /@/ doesn't really like vtubers (Hololive in particular) >>>/vg/412174938

>>39664025
they are idolfags after all

>>39664025
No one like Vtuber, or rather they hate seeing their shit being turned into Vtubers
At least 2hus are mostly freed from it

>>39663162
Chloe was the MVP for me, she was quick to react when Shion stream died which saved the funnel and she also was intelligent enough to have her sub count on stream which added a few thousand subs to her channel in 30 minutes

>>39664025
People hate vtubers because /our/ schizos give them a bad name

>>39664025
what am I supposed to see in that thread?

>>39664025
Adapt or franchise dies. I like im@s and knew this would eventually happen

>>39664025
Funnies shit I've seen when hololive sustained most of their viewers and even increased it over the past 3 years. Why the fuck do they hate hololive?
>>412217405

>>39664168
vtuber is just e thot with anime avatar

>>39664025
>dead dying long-since sucked dry corporate franchise fans hate new hotness thriving corporate franchise
fucking shocker

>>39664168
>Because I really don't want LoveLive fanbase with thrice the mental illness.
Probably because hololive fans are notorious for disliking male interactions

What the fuck happened to Nene's relay portion

>>39664025
why do they hate hololive but not nijisanji? nijisanji brought in more cancer into vtubing than hololive did

>>39664244
not now nijikek

>>39664232
frfr ong my fellow enbro

So who is getting gold today?

>>39664257
Probably the
>male interactions
part
SideM is a big thing there and they ship adaptation animePs with their idols

>>39663789
>Ame retained her 5-6k median she had since forever DESPITE the recline of other tempiss-collabing girls and the market in general
>Showed that she can do much better with the right choice of content.
If that is not convincing enough, I don't know what is.

>>39664025
>im@s vtuber
I wonder if Gibara is one of them

>>39664308
I don't get it I thought idolfags hate getting cucked they're okay with it now?

How did Hololive own Fukkireta over the years? A beloved vocaloid song from a decade ago became the anthem for Hololive now. A perfect unity anime song.

>>39664025
look at the shit Enna is doing and ask yourself if youre surprised vtuber fags are getting a worse rep than bronies

>>39664308
it all comes back to male collabs

>>39664372
only holocel thought that

>>39664257
They don't know about Nijisanji

>>39664383
But her numbers are doing so well!

>>39664257
It's just another case of "Success breeds jealousy"

>>39664372
iM@Sfags are always okay with male-female interactions (the part that don't like it moved on to Love Live with iM@S 2 release, but the controversy was always about Ryuugu Komachi (anal idol unit) being unplayable instead of the male additions)

>>39664279
In EN it really is. the most buff content is camwhore shit and cuck content

>>39664387
ironically, Idolmaster almost died when they introduced males back then. imas and vtuber fanbases aren't really that different.

>>39664402
this I wish holobros can enjoy the streams just for entertainment just like me and my wife's black boyfriend

>>39664468
then why not let it die?

tempiss status?

>>39664508
It's still profitable? What kind of question is this?

>>39664508
hololive brought the love back

>just listened to the bae towa cover
Jesas it was good, doing shit number wise tho

>>39664560
then why are they so mad?

>6k for Axel
>4.7k for Magni
literally getting more than NijiEN girls and Noctyx fags
Put some respect on their names, none of you ever expected that

>>39664570
>bae
hope it flops hard

>>39664592
Not now sister

>>39664594
Well it's flopping alright. You can't deny the cover is good though.

>>39664600
Holo winning, Niji seething

>>39664372
>>39664508
Let me introduce you to this guy who took the world by storm. He singlehandedly saved iM@S and made Deresute the most successful idol rhythm game of the time.

>>39664619
Homo's arent holo's.

>>39664453
god I hate this one. Hololive is doing nothing, it;s a chill hobby, I want to see girl streamers relaxing and make fun of each other like an anime yet they attract the most retarded antis. Fans are literally fine with unity stuff, but they don't encourage it else we got things like that enna kyo moment or a slumber party in discord or meeting up at the hotel for an offcollab. That's far from what people liked about vtubing in thr first place.

>>39664160
One anon called us "love live fans but with three times the mental illness". That's the meanest thing I have ever read in my entire life.

>>39664468
The inclusion of males is not solely why people were mad. It was them removing 4 girls as being produceable WHILE introducing the males as rivals. And in the end it didn't kill shit and people ended up liking Jupiter to the point where Jupiter carried the launch of SideM.

>>39664372
I remember this comic. Reimu were pointing out how the manager look like hentai protagonists and taking a jab at him

>>39664594
Seethe, that cover was better than any music any EN has ever produced.

>>39664640
Holo unity winning, unicorn seething

>>39664655
I mean, are they wrong though?

>>39664684
Unity is a niji psyop sister

>>39664640
>holostars
>holo

>>39664690
Come on now, Love Live fans are still on another level, even compared to our schizos.

>>39664690
No. Actual love live fags are far more mentally ill and I'm not even joking.

>>39664257
Because literally no one is aware of shittysanji outside of this board. If you say "vtubers" people will think Kizuna and Hololive. I mean no shit, their top EN talents make niche smut for chinese fujos.

>>39664655
>>39664684
>Love live is by far the biggest idol anime
What I said before, success breeds jealousy

>>39662487
we do it for fun whatever happened it doesn't look that bad at least like how he keeps interacting normal with the boys

>>39664655
They are not wrong. Sometime you gotta be aware that we are treating real people like a bunch of fictional characters

>>39663090
This is probably going to be another fucking failed project like when they tried to bust into the goddamn kpop scene by making a Korean idolm@ster tv show. Banco really doesn't fucking know what they're doing.

>>39664683
>this is what delusional brrats actually believe

>>39664774
No one does that. We treat them like streamers but 2D.

>>39664698
>sister when more than 50% of their viewerbase is male and fellow holofans
I can smell the seethe

>>39662515
what month is this all the holos are reclining hard or are MIA and vesper is back to the 3k thanks to the drama buff

So Pekora is actually in HoloEarth checking in...

>>39664805
Your olfactory bulb must be malfunctioning sister, I'm very content right now.

>>39664794
>no one
>we
Nigger there were people that legitimately thought Gura and Ame would have sex and would push that at any opportunity

>>39664836
Wait what?

>>39664774
aren't that the point of vtubing?

Pekora gold today then?

https://twitter.com/tsunomakiwatame/status/1607281559173832704
No...

>>39664854
Don't compare >us with /u/fags.

>>39664785
Leave them alone anon. Brats are retarded. We already know.

>>39664886
go callie go

>>39664886
Isn't it for their orisongs? It's whatever

>>39664886
kari-chan kakkoi

>>39664836
>>39664860

>>39664854
pekora and miko had sex it's not the fans who pushed it
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zcs3mrrcKIA

>>39664850
I am sorry on behalf of this retarded nousagi
who would rather defend Niji over a Holo product

>>39664954
>pekora and miko had sex
This implies there was consent from pekora which as we all now there wasn't

teakeks getting too cocky today i will remind them

>>39664992
Miko did nothing wrong.

>>39663876
wrong again, enshart, it's now a towa split

>>39665029
Miko did everything wrong but i can't blame her. I would do the same.

https://twitter.com/Holoearth_JP/status/1607285588864159744
This concert would have broken 100k if not for Calli or as her Grandma called her real name

>>39663725
I mean with Gura gone the mentally ill Yurifags have to go somewhere and Ame is the only other Holo they know that they can hopefully get info from

>Tempus hetero offcollab soon after NijiEN hetero offcollab
Are sisters unironically cucks?

>>39664944
who's tofu and why is it orange?

>>39665115
>please talk about tempiss

>>39665127
It's IRyS

Does someone know why all the Hololive official videos have English, Indonesian, Spanish and Japanese subtitles but never Korean??
Does Yagoo hate Korea that much that they cant even subtitle it for the Korean fans??

>>39665082
The game won’t even launch if it detects “suspicious” processes running.

>>39665152
Yes

>>39665152
Yagoo is a big fan of Toyotomi Hideyoshi

>>39665115
>>39665134
>they put nijiCN for no reason
why nijiniggers like this

>>39664854
you do realize that people meant the characters and not the VA behind them right? It's like saying sasuke and naruto would be a perfect couple and they should have steamy sex together.

>>39662409
Is this fucking real? Like genuinely, I can't think of two possible hires than this retard and Fagni. It's like they came on /hlgg/ and did the absolute opposite of what actual HoloEN fans wanted. A thirsty talentless retard who is in just for the pussy and a gay furrt twitch cocksucker. Fuck Tempiss.

>>39665082
>Calli
Nijinigger go back

dead thread

>>39665152
NijiKR>NijiID>HoloID>NijiEN
yeah yagoo should make HoloKR

>>39664655
Love Live (and idolmaster) fans had been supporting seiyuus who got married while in active service. vtuber fans will foam at the mouth for the slightest of male presence. of course no wonder why people don't think highly of us.

>>39665258
Bu-but Iselgye

>>39665204
In the v-world the VA and the character are one and the same, otherwise Rushia's "VA" would just be replaced.

the most viewed fauna asmr vod will get unseated by this recycled shit in weeks lol
https://youtu.be/faWczqki470

wait, there's a mahjong lottery today lol. That's a gold again because they're gonna bot it

>>39665259
>Love Live
Why the fuck like. When mimorin married that wrestler they fucking threw a fit.

>>39665204
>the characters
oh fuck off c/u/ck you know these bitches don't put jack shit effort into putting on a "character"

>>39665217
holofans hater her too mr.deadbeat

>>39665301
no anon, you are supposed to forget that

>>39665301
Lie*

>>39664868
No. Suisei offcollab is on today

Wait a second, the HoloMk8 tourney is on the same day as Niji mahjong tourney lol. Was it like this last year?

>>39664864
Yeah, but that doesn't make it any less weird

so which lobby are the numberchads at on the holoearth live?

>>39665318
Holofans don’t call her Calli sister.

>>39665386
She just said they are meeting, nobody has confirmed that they are streaming it (fat chances they don't btw)

>>39665386
>implying she's gonna let us hear her mom's voice

>>39665428
what?? what kind of cope is this anon

>>39665410
The one with the biggest numbers ofc

AM I the only one who doubles the CCV on holo streams because of the cull?
For instance this Suisei MK stream says 20K are watching rn but I just automatically assume it's 40K

>>39665301
last i heard most of the responses to Mimorin's marriage are positive, and those who did merch burnings are actually just a minority, and it took an actual marriage for them to go schizo. vtubers would get their carreers killed with just a single discord message, or an exposed hand for a few frames.

>>39665478
You're just retarded

lmao saw this in my recommendation. I never thought this level of leeching was possible. Literally using Speed face in the thumbnail

>>39665478
I do the same.
Just 150% for holoJP and 200% for holoEN

>>39665478
based enGOD

>>39665488
Whatever you say

>>39665493
Nijiseethe.

>>39665404
No, but that's because the 7th falls on the Saturday this year, whereas it was on a Friday last year. The mahjong tourney was held on Saturday last year, and it's being held on a Saturday again this year. I don't think the overlap is intentional, but no one is also specifically going out of their way to avoid cross-company overlap.

>>39665478
that amount of cope is not healthy for you bro....

>>39665404
yes, niji being the sore loser like they are had put a lottery today nd the tournament on holomk8 after towa announced it first then we're going to have a back and forth debate with shitposters, numbers from niji is 150k+ high wow, bots cope, farms etc then we compare chat speed and twitter trend showing nijis were clearly botting then holo numberfags can't do about it and hololive themselves doesn't give a shit about it because they are free from trying to comply with investor demands

yada yada yada the usual, nijisanji thinks that investing in bots was worth it since sponsorship money is going to cover it, not knowing the bot provider, likely chinese, has a card to blackmail them with

>>39665493
Why are nijichinks like this?

>>39665493
kys nijiwhore
>>39665591
newfag

>>39665488
People donated REAL money expecting REAL relationship from VIRTUAL youtubers. Silly I know but that is how it rolls.

>>39665404
Are you ready for "HOLOKEKS STATUS??" spam?

Suisei holding 45K is pretty impresive.
People are hyped for the tourney.

Can anyone tell me how this works? Within 15 minutes after the market opens, the price went from 5490 to 5690. People bought low in anticipation for NJU?

>>39665673
Hololive's buff content can't even win against Toya, how do you think they can beat mahjong?

>Towa says a male voice in her stream was her manager
>Cover slaps the shit out of her, outs her as a liar publicly since it'd look inappropriate having their male manager hanging out with her at her house alone, suspends her
>Axel literally feeding a giggling, female manager strawberries by hand and doxes himself several times on stream without a care
>Nothing
Tower...

>>39665701
AHHHHHHHHH STOP THIS RETARDATION. THE STOCK PRICE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STREAMS

>>39665701
B2 consolidating it's shares probably

>>39665673
We need a thread meido. Or just rangeban on china/taiwan