/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>39491975

qrd on Laplus? why's she breaking down etc

I hate /hlg/ so fucking much

>>39492132
She’s literally insane, no one likes her and she’s the least popular of her gen due to multiple yabs

>>39492111
Gaahh I missed Koyori, I'm so sorry Koyo, even when she was the one I watched the most this year... I'm so sorry please punish me

Laplus is so sexy though

>>39492178
Come on she can recover from that, is not easy but it's possible

pity bump
lets be honest, she's boring, her content is dogshit low quality.

>>39492178
That's not a qrd.

>>39492178
What yabs? I haven't been keeping up recently. From what i remember Laplus was the most entertaining out of the bunch. What happened?

>>39491975
She gets what she deserve.
>>39492132
Similar to Matsuri.

>>39492706
You haven't watched her since debut week. It's a bit late to pretend to be confused now.

>>39492871
some of us don't watch JPs at all kek

>>39492871
>>39492919
I only watch Suisei

>>39492132
>say she is a gachikoi and doesn't want her oshi to interact with males to have gachikoi money
>is caught playing with males on a rust server
>basic instabitch
>have a timer on each stream and never makes 1+ hour stream
>just after the stream end starts a new stream on her roommate account where she plays with her friends for 5 hous
>promoted so much her roommate account people are mainly talking about her roommate instead of laplus
>completely stopped streaming
>is caught playing on discord with males another time and people are suspecting she is dating ta1yo
>one of her message to ta1yo says she doesn't want to stream because she feels disgusted
>she played with Altare off-screen according to Kobo

>>39492986
I have no reason to believe any of this, but I will because it's funny

>>39492986
The only one I don't see the problem is, is the last one.
I thought it was ok to play with males off-stream, according to like, everyone you ever ask
>is it ok to play with males
and the response is "as long as it's off-stream where I can't see it."

>>39493056
Read the first line.
It's like she make promises to be unicorn friendly and then break her own promises.
If I'm not mistaken one of her merch is ring too, just like Mikegato.

>>39493126
It's always the flatties...

>>39493026
Are you people actually braindead? You can't say you have no reason to believe things that are verifiable facts that you can verify yourself, what you'd have no reason to believe is the people who extrapolate from those facts into "she's living with her boyfriend", "she hates all the members of HoloX", etc.

>>39493263
I'm saying that I am not going to make an effort to look up those facts and verify them, because I don't care enough to do that

>>39493056
And we saw it...

>>39493056
The thing in that case is it's not off-stream where no can see it if you are also a unityfag. Off-stream where no one could see it would mean not on her company account with her male co-workers.

>>39493056
>playing with males
>fucking males
all ok as long as the drones don't see it. you can do basically anything, even murder, as long as no one sees it

>>39492227
You are right she can. She just doesnt want to try

>>39493308
>>39493359
You saw a tweet mentioning the people involved but not the people involved playing.
I'm probably autistic or retarded but I genuinely don't understand what's wrong here. It wasn't streamed and you didn't witness anything. It's like her (or kobo in this case) just talking about her weekend.

>>39493529
They are all playing characters you absolute dumbfuck. They can even get suspended or terminated for use of their characters in real-life. It wasn't Kobo's roommate talking about playing with Altare's roommate and Laplus' roommate. They were all doing it together as co-workers. You do realize even within Hololive there are barriers for members to contact each other, it's not as simple as everyone is having sex with each other. You have to consent to even being in the same chat groups as males even if you are all under Cover.

>>39493026
some of this are real though, you can find it in that one autistic website that documents shit like this anon.

>>39492132
>>39492178
>>39492633
>>39492986
she just needs to get off her lazy ass and play, thats it.

>>39492986
What a waste of a good model

>>39493739
The only possible defense you could possibly have for her is that she understands she plays a very specific character and can't break that character for company promotional reasons so she just gave up on streaming because she accepted her actual personality and the character's clash too much (their only similarity is being disrespectful assholes but their interests are completely opposite).

>>39493655
And clearly there was consent to play together but them playing together wasn't on stream.
The character may not be on stream but the character still exists and can do stuff otherwise multiple holos wouldn't have entered an apex tournament under their work account.
I get it though, I'm too dumb to understand even if it's dumbed down for my smooth brain because apparently this is still a problem.

>>39492227
She can't, Towa and Matsuri recovered through charisma and vtubing not being as overpopulated during their yabs. Sure za hando was pretty recent comparatively but by then it wasn't really too outrageous considering her history so it just sort of got added to the list. Then there's the yubi incident which had enough uncertainty to only become a lasting joke. Mori survived all her yabs because western audiences have no standards, Jay and Brian weren't as severe as Rushia's because there were no suspect messages attached and again western audience. Lap just fucked up too early in her career without having the charisma or audience to let it just fade away, that and her hypocritical attitude plus being pushed as the leader of her gen harder than Bae was people expected better from her.

It's a shame to see prime cunny fall so far, I can't bare to watch anymore.

>>39494153
we're you jacking it to her streams? her model exists, that's enough to fuel plenty of good art, but losing her audience does make artists less probe to draw her anymore so that's the real loss here

I was not aware of the yabs but for me she was done for after that shitty "3D debut" she put together

>>39492633
it's the hard time limit she puts on her streams while going for hours on her roommate that's fucked up, every gens been infected with at least one parasite not willingly to put in effort since gen 5 yet people always go on about how good their scouts are

>>39492986
>say she is a gachikoi and doesn't want her oshi to interact with males
>is caught playing with males on a rust server
No problem with this. Just because you are a gachi doesn't mean you automatically want gachi yourself. Laplus has already explicitly said she doesn't want gachi because she knows she can't provide what they want, which is exactly what Suisei did.

>>39493911
You don't have to agree it's a problem, some people are into hetero streamers. What doesn't make sense is why you can't grasp it's not off-stream where users can't see it if everyone saw it. I do believe this is an autism thing however as you said since Kronii is also your brand of autistic and was confused people got upset when she streamed with Tempus because she thought as long as it was only on their channels, nobody could see it.

>>39492111
>most viewers
>least money
What did she mean by this?

>>39494382
Laplus dug her own grave with all that shit, she did all that stuff as an act because she thought it was funny for her character but when she violated it all, it bit her in the ass with people who don't like that behavior because they could use her in-character rants against her.

>>39494019
She'll be fine, she'll have a small but dedicated audience. Plus whenever I see Laplus in hololive stuff she's always funny as hell, her reactions are top tier so she justifies her presence by them alone. Stop worrying about her, she's fine and has Lui to help her, literally the most beloved Hololive member in the company right now.

>>39494434
Power grid failure. ATM's were broken that day.

>>39494449
>Laplus dug her own grave with all that shit
No she didn't. You're just an autist who didn't cotton on that she was making fun of obsessed fans, not trying to actually be one.

>>39494456
Just say you don't watch streams. Laplus already has everything she could ever need and still went full menhera mode. She's the one who quit. She's the one who tried to sabotage HoloX. Nobody here is doubting she can do whatever she wants, she's the one who doesn't want to be in Hololive.

>>39494486
Thanks for repeating what I said back to me. Now just think about it a little more next time.

>>39494535
Can you just kill yourself already you schizoid shitskin. Surely you have better things to do than to push this retarded rrat every single day

>>39494565
She didn't make a single in character rant intimating that she wants fans to attack her for collabing with men.

>>39494434
Drama buff

>>39494456
I'm not worrying about her I've never liked her attitude, she came out the gates bratty which was cute but quickly turned to just bitchy and then all the roomate stuff was really scummy considering how new she is, I don't even care about the male stuff she just seems like a piece of shit

>>39494620
Lui likes her. Trust the hag.

>>39494568
>Rushia schizo
Of course. I bet you're a huge Aloe fan as well.

>>39494675
>He took the bait
Predictable as ever SEAkun

>>39494638
I don't trust Japanese people to be honest about their feelings, the more vocal they are about liking somebody the more the despise them in reality

>>39494401
NTA but link the stream where it happened otherwise it was off-stream.

>>39494600
They were about how she would go crazy if her oshi collabed with men. She also went overboard with other shit like degrading her roommate for the stream just to prove she's not living with men. It was all funny content, I don't hate her for it. But she will have to break character to become the streamer you want her to be and her unique character was the only appealing and unique thing about her.

>>39494725
>The more people who actually know her say she's a good person the more I know she's an evil machiavellian whore plotting to destroy Hololive!

>>39494736
Stop being obtuse as fuck. Nobody cares if you're not bothered by it, if you follow the conversation you can see it was about confusion over why other people are upset about it. When people say off-stream, they mean OOC. By your logic, if Axel and Nodoka have sex tonight and Axel talks about it on-stream but Nodoka does not, then it shouldn't bother any Nodoka fans.

>>39494830
Some other person outside Hololive talking about playing games with Laplus doesn't bother me at all because if they're outside Hololive they might as well not exist. I don't give a fuck about non-Hololive streamers. You sure you're a Hololive fan bro you're starting to smell a bit like a Nijinigger

>>39494885
I can't tell if you're just pretending to be retarded. I feel like you have to be the only person in the world who thinks ID and EN aren't part of Hololive but also collabing with men is good.

>>39494768
Japanese people never speak their true feelings, it's like living in a constant state of opposite day

>>39494768
What he means is they have to say she's a nice person because you'd never be able to tell based on her personality or actions. Remember when they all coddled her publicly when she leaked Botan's new outfit and disrespected her senpai's for their collab together? The fact they could disingenuously pretend she was a good person during that shows their words and feelings don't match because they have to be put on a good face themselves as entertainers.

>>39494915
NTA but what does this even mean

>>39494915
I don't think Laplus ever collabed with a guy though? Your argument is that if Laplus plays off stream with a guy and someone else who is not Laplus mentions it then it ruins Laplus for you. If it's about Kobo then you should be upset at Kobo being retarded for being tactless and assuming other Holos are fine with whoring it up the way she does.

>>39493529
People don't wanna know that their vtuber waifu hung out with a guy and had fun with him. The point of doing it off stream is that no one will know it happened, so talking about it publicly defeats that purpose.
Is this enough for you to stop pretending that you don't get it?

>>39494942
>trust me, I know anything about the Japanese

>>39494964
>he point of doing it off stream is that no one will know it happened, so talking about it publicly defeats that purpose.
Again that isn't Laplus' fault, it's Kobos. Why are you angry at Laplus for Kobos retardation? Laplus is not and has never been a hardcore GFE streamer and attached herself to Towa early on so it's silly to expect that she'd never be playing offline with that group in Hololive.

>>39494964
I wasn't pretending, but your explanation makes more sense, despite the words "Off stream" being used incorrectly.
It should be more like "Don't let me know it happened at all."

>>39492986
She feels disgusted? So maybe the whole thing about understanding gachikoi is just her knowing about a kind of person she feels grossed out by? Maybe performing for a bunch of loser NEETs gets to her psychologically and she has to decompress by interacting with whatever the japanese equivalent of a chad is on her roommate stream. Being an idol means appealing to sexually disgusting males (from the average females perspective). The women who are able to hide their natural innate disgust are fucking saints who are basically doing charity for the poor. Laplus is too much of a stuck up reajuu to handle it without going mad from the revelation.

>>39492986
it's amazing how much la+ schizo has fed you EOPs so much stupid shit and how you people have warped those rrats away from what actually happened, lol

>The sisters are still trying to psy-op Hololive fans into hating their own vtubers by pretending to be outraged unicorns angry that they had an interaction with a male
I don't think this shit is working sisters

>>39495009
if she kept it to her rm then I could ignore it, the problem was she was doing it on her laplus account too

>>39494960
He said ID and EN are not part of Hololive but Laplus should also collab with males. Generally people who want JP to collab with males are ID/EN fans.

>>39495180
>I could've ignored it but I just had to keep going to the JP anti sites and reading doxx shit about her

>>39494768
Have you never interacted with people? The more they repeat the same lines the less likely it is to be true.

>>39492111
Damn 7 mil is pretty fucking good even after everyone else takes their cut. It's around what people with a stable job make annually, no?

>>39494961
Who is Robert Pattinson?

>>39494535
a menhera will always be a menhera anon, it doesn't stop them from being entertaining.

>>39495329
Since when have idols ever been barred from doing promotional content with men? I swear these roasties think that unicorns demand that Hololive talents never exist in the same room with a penis at any point

>>39494961
Laplus and her roommate are not the same person. You are trying too hard.

>>39495399
It didn't bother me I'm just pointing out you're being disingenuous by saying she's never collabed with a male before

>>39495084
the disgusted thing is wrong but it wouldn't surprise me if she did hold her fans in contempt
can't believe some nigger eop managed to damage lap's /vt/ reputation more than her schizos
>so why not correct the-
nah I don't like her either

It's always hilarious how people pretend to be outraged over some ridiculous standard that nobody could ever follow when they want to defend a terrible human being and conveniently ignore that the majority of Holos follow it without issue.

>>39495494
Promotions don't count as collabs.

>>39495032
it's a mistranslation from la+ schizo, it meant nauseous. context being is that she gets motion sickness from various games, mainly shooters but anything with a fucked field of view. she was asked if she wanted to play some more afterwards by the dude, but after playing almost 4 hours of valorant and 1 hour of gundam that night on her laplus channel she couldn't take anymore.

>>39495494
Rich of you to accuse someone being disingenuous when you clearly don't understand the difference of collab and shilling

>>39495499
the schizo in question is the eop in question, he's been lurking over in /jp/ for over two years trying to sow seeds of discord amongst all of the fanbases over there. whenever nothing works he comes over here and regurgitates his bullshit since sisters love to eat drama. this is the same dude that latched onto her when he found her personal pixiv account and started schizoing her when he found out that she was liking BL artwork, this being all before the rm shit started happening.

>>39495774
99% sure he was the one baiting the Rushia Mafu shit as well. Then tried his hand at attacking Lui using the "ATM" thing but failed pathetically and moved back to trying to smear Laplus.

>>39492132
Went full Mori. But unlike westerners, the Japanese actually gave a fuck and punished her for it. She got shit numbers for a first JP anniversary and it gave her a mental breakdown.

>>39495893
JP's are weird, they literally lie about Mori to soften her flaws so they can justify their worship of her. Actually it's kinda the exact reverse of how this thread is with Laplus.

>>39494304
It's always the zoomer, don't hire zoomers. Problem solved.

>>39495953
It's ok if the gaijins do it - JP
It's ok if JP does it - EN

>>39491975
What a wasted opportunity Laplus is.

>>39492111
>just a tad over the minimal wage in Tokyo
How horrifying.

>>39494382
>Just because you are a gachi doesn't mean you automatically want gachi yourself.
Anon left out the part where she followed that up with "I know how you feel and won't do it". It was in response to a question about holostars collabs.
Also let's not forget about all of these https://twitter.com/search?q=%E3%82%AC%E3%83%81%E6%81%8B%20from%3Alaplusdarknesss&src=typed_query&f=live
and other times she mentioned it on stream.
>Laplus has already explicitly said she doesn't want gachi because she knows she can't provide what they want
She literally NEVER said that. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>39494768
>people who actually know her
Someone meeting her offline once doesn't "actually know her".

>>39495084
>Bro, just trust me.
How about trying to correct any of the things mentioned? It's amazing how stupid you are

>>39496525
>Anon left out the part where she followed that up with "I know how you feel and won't do it". It was in response to a question about holostars collabs.
Can you like the Laplus Holostars collab? I must have missed it

>>39491975
No, but assholes like you spamming shit like this everyday is a good enough reason for her to have a mental breakdown

>>39496796
Are you retarded?

>>39495563
>she gets motion sickness from various games, mainly shooters but anything with a fucked field of view
She's just like me. I never even realized this until I had a powerful PC and could PC game properly. I was now sitting close enough to the screen for this to affect me, whereas previously with console gaming I was sitting across the room. She needs some set-up where she sits across the room from her PC with a really long keyboard and mouse wire and some kind of mini table to put them on.

>>39496875
Are you? If she hasn't collabed with Holostars then she's kept her word hasn't she?

>>39496810
>assholes
it's literally one schizo who is NEET and spams this shit 18 hours a day.

>>39496926
Did your goldfish retard brain already forget this?
>doesn't want her oshi to interact with males
holostars are not the only men, schizochama.

this dude deleted this shit saying it was a membership video but does anyone know which it was
trying to view this shit on archive.org is giving me aneurysm since it redirects the url and adds themerefresh=1 and breaks it from loading the actual video so I can't even check the time length to compare

>>39497069
meant to attach this the broken archive.org pic before it redirects

>>39496925
Oh, and another thing that helped was playing games set to half screen size.

>>39496967
It's more than 1 probably less than ten but not just one not here anyway and of course I also mean the losers on 5ch as well.

>>39497069
There's a Nyaa on a Laplus ASMR members only video that dates back a year ago

>>39497231
As much as losers they are, they find out shit I would have never tried to. It causes a lot of issues for my Oshi but I rather know than not know

>>39496810
>>39497231
If she's mentally falling apart over ten people not liking her, she was never going to make it

>>39496810
>>39496967
>>39497231
You never even watched her streams. Stop pretending like you give a shit.

>>39496739
>is caught playing with males on a rust server
she wasn't caught playing, she was caught trying to join the server
>have a timer on each stream and never makes 1+ hour stream
you can literally look at her Live tab on her channel https://www.youtube.com/@LaplusDarknesss/streams.. anything from mainly the recent two months and further disproves what you typed, threadreader. the bite sized content wasn't an issue in the beginning because it was encouraged by her fans due to how frequent her streams used to be.
>promoted so much her roommate account people are mainly talking about her roomate instead of laplus
i would prefer you to show me evidence of this if you intend to claim it
>completely stopped streaming
she's on hiatus? https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1599637188873900032
>one of her message to ta1yo says she doesn't want to stream because she feels disgusted
>>39495563

>>39496977
Ok link the stream where she had a man on then?

>>39497727
None. She admitted that she does play with men however so that's her breaking her promise right there.

>>39497715
not him but she does have a lot more antis than most in the usual places, and her anniversary did inexplicably poorly considering she's a good performer with good on-screen chemistry. where else would the hate come from?

>>39497840
It's all made up and she did nothing wrong.

>>39497764
But you said
>she followed that up with "I know how you feel and won't do it". It was in response to a question about holostars collabs.
So how did you make the jump from her replying no to someone asking for Holostar collabs to the idea she won't interact with males period on stream or off stream? That's a pretty fucking huge gap

>>39497449
>I don't watch streams so i'm going to project and say you don't watch stream
Start drinking bleach daily even a shot glass amount is a good start

>>39497870
Except validate all of them by quitting?

>>39496187
if she had something special going on with her rm I would understand her dedication to it. like if she had an established singing career or was a known competitor in a game cover didn't want to get perms for I'd get it. everything I've seen makes it look like that's not the case though

>>39497764
Laplus said she doesn't want gachikoi because she does play with men offstream retard. That's the exact reason.

>>39497840
i'm aware that she does, she is not flawless obviously. i'm pointing out the flaws in his copy pasta

>>39497905
Why did she start talking about seeing her oshi interact with men when the question was only about holostars? That's a pretty huge leap, retard.

>>39497909
None of you faggots posted about Laplus for the whole fucking year but all of the sudden the board is full of people that watched her. Where were you?

>>39497958
>Laplus said she doesn't want gachikoi
Timestamp it. She never said that.

>>39497840
The hate is out of proportion with what she's done. The worst accusation you can make against Laplus is that she's a lazy zoomer, hardly worth making daily hate threads about. Despite the sisters desperately trying to falseflag as unicorns not a single person actually gives a shit about her playing Valorant offstream with e-celebs

>>39497870
then what's with the poor numbers, and the hate outside this board? she has the looks, voice, humor and musical skills to succeed. it just doesn't add up unless there are issues offstage.

>>39491975
Only holo I wouldn’t fuck

>>39498040
Your defense of her is disproportionate. So why assume you are not part of the problem?

>>39492111
I remember a time when I thought Lui was gonna be the runt of her gen

>>39498178
My defense of her is merely pointing out that the attacks are almost certainly coming from Nijinigs trying to turn Hololive fans against each other than actual viewers with criticism. Laplus being lazy is an issue but getting sucked into to trash talking a Hololive member because the sisters are dragging poor 5ch rrats over here is something that is beneath Holochads.

>>39498011
>None of you faggots posted about Laplus for the whole fucking year but all of the sudden the board is full of people that watched her. Where were you?
Just because you don't see her in your thread of choice or spammed on the catalogue doesn't mean (no one talked about her all year) Seriously dude make the world a better place or at least grant this board a Merry Christmas and slit your wrist vertically

>>39498316
Ah, so you're a redditor. Well, you can go back now. Crisis averted. Everyone loves Laplus now. Collect your gold.

>>39498366
>Noooo if you don't bite my shitty bait and anti your own talents then you're reddit
Neck yourself you worthless shitskin faggot I'm tired of you

>>39496810
>implying she can read English
It's the Japanese schizos, and unlike western schizos they do not forgive or forget.

>>39497715
Her streams are predominately short streams.
If you know her RM, she was more active on it for a period of time; even creating that utaite group.
People are tracking her Valorant activity and found she was playing before and after the HoloX 3D live she flaked on but didn't give notification until 30 mins before the event.
If you don't know her RM, I don't think you can be part of this discussion

>>39498318
Then where was she getting posted about? She had zero presence in the holoX thread for about 10 months.

>>39498316
Nijiniggers don't need to lift a finger to harm hololive when the talents themselves are doing adequate job of it

>>39498316
>le nijisister boogeymen
all the bullshit on her came from jp schizos. you faggots can't really take criticism over your perfect idols, huh

>>39498454
you only keep coming here because you keep getting btfo whenever you try this shit on /jp/ though

>>39498417
your claim was that she never makes 1+ hour streams, so I pointed out the flaw in that statement as well as everything else wrong. i'm well aware of her rm activites.

>>39498454
He literally said he doesn't even like her. It's just tribalism. I doubt he's watched a single JP stream in his life.

>>39498415
She is a JP schizo. She herself posts with them, it was considered charming the first time until people realized it wasn't an act.

>>39498501
That actually wasn't my claim but I did respond to you to correct anything that was wrong. I personally took a look at the stream times just a moment ago.
I think most of what was pointed out is true from what I've looked into

>Lui ATM angle didn't work so the sisters are forced to break out the 6 month old Laplus rrat baits
Dark times for the Nijicord

>>39498550
well clearly she was trying to fit in but turned out to be a hypocrite.

>>39494434
>most guests
>weekend
>Japs team lose the football match
>Lui's legs
On that note, stinky orca is the most amazing, highest SC and second in terms of ccv. And she achieved that on weekday and without any guests

>>39498606
The whole "tell me if I fucked up and force me to apologize properly" bit was clear pandering to that crowd and they loved it at the time.

>>39498599
They come back up when there is new shit to add to it. I wouldn't give a shit if she was more isolated from the other holos but I can only see her as a mostly bad influence

>>39498599
Has Laplus really been on hiatus for 6 months already?

>>39498702
Effectively.

Mori is still worse than Laplus

Laplus:
Doesn't care about Hololive
Is addicted to Valorant
Possibly has a boyfriend

Mori:
Actively hates Hololive culture

But I thought Laplus-chan was a lesbian

>>39499271
She listed her preferred qualities in men on her debut week.

>>39498994
Mori is worse but Myth sucks ass and EN is circling the drain so it's easy to forget Mori exists. But HoloX is working hard and solidifying their bond together so Laplus telling them to go fuck themselves while they continue doing their best stands out more. Laplus is literally the face of their ongoing manga together due to her character design being popular despite her not even being an active member of the company anymore and them being the ones supporting the manga.

people can argue over whether they are yabs or a nothingburgers. The real issue is she has made a sizeable contingent of antis through her reactions to them and it is spilling over and shaping the overall perception of her. The oppositional approach she took over the knock at the door yab will get a few clips an cheers from reddit but it creates more negativity in the long run. Now no matter what she does she is going to have a target on her for antis and she put it on herself.

>>39499711
>Laplus telling them to go fuck themselves
tbf missing the concert was probably decided much earlier but it wasn't announced till later to not hurt numbers or overshadow with drama

>got caught defending herself on 5chan
>say she gets gachikois and wouldn't want her oshi to interact with males to have gachikoi money
>is caught playing with males on a rust server
>basic instabitch
>has a timer on each stream and never streams for more than 1 hour
>just after the stream ends she starts a new stream on her roommate account where she plays with her friends for 5 hous
>promoted her roommate so much account people are mainly talking about her roommate instead of laplus
>is caught messaging males on discord with and people are suspecting she is dating ta1yo
>she played with Altare off-screen according to Kobo
>took a break for mental health reasons after getting the lowest views on the anniversary relay
Would this be more accurate? I want my antiposting to be informed.

>>39500053
How much earlier? Let's hear your absolutely correct review of what happened there.

>>39498702
I wonder if she'll start putting in more than a token effort when she comes back

>>39500151
Shit I forgot one
>created an utaite agency using her Holoive clout

>>39491975
sorry about your breakdown, Anon.

>>39500151
If you don't know what actually happened don't bother writing these.

>>39500151
At least half seem to line up to what I know.
Think the reasons for her break can only really be speculation though

>>39500212
you are right I don't know. I would make on the an assumption on the bance of probabilities that she didn't wake up the day of and say 'nah, muh mental health' as that would be a shitty way to treat her genmates. Also cover would have an interest in not announcing it earlier 1) because it would have overshadowed the other lives that were going on till Wednesday of that week and 2)it would harm the numbers of the concert. You can disagree but ultimately we don't know

>>39500151
>>39500293
>say she gets gachikois and wouldn't want her oshi to interact with males to have gachikoi money
wrong
>is caught playing with males on a rust server
wrong
>has a timer on each stream and never streams for more than 1 hour
wrong
>promoted her roommate so much account people are mainly talking about her roommate instead of laplus
wrong
>took a break for mental health reasons after getting the lowest views on the anniversary relay
wrong
>created an utaite agency using her Holoive clout
wrong

Don't get baited just because you're eop

>>39500540
Oh so cover had her intentionally lie that she was going to appear on the stream even though they had already planned for her to not appear. That makes so much sense! She's definitely not a shit person who would ever randomly skip out on work and lie about what's really going on.

>>39500560
Denying it over and over like a retard having a fit wont make it true, nor convince anyone

>>39500673
Not that retard but he's right about all but the last one being wrong. You're going to do the opposite of convincing anyone when your bulletpoint list of why Laplus is bad changes every time it's posted.

>>39500673
At least not all of it was denied. I get that some of the points are slightly exaggerated like the stream times or her RM being a public discussion.
But those aren't entirely off; you're just arguing semantics if you just disagree with it

>>39494638
And a lot of other holomems (including Lui) love ayame despite being a whore who only streams before and after her massive money collection events.

>>39498665
I remember this. Then she proceeded to refuse to apologize for the Rust yab. Fascinating

>>39492132
>>39495893
>>39495953
none of her yabs have been on Mori's level.

>>39501102
What was the Rust yab?

>>39498994
How does she hate Hololive again? Did she say that anywhere?

>>39492633
For what ive seen she seems funny, quick witted and talented but really doesnt give a rat as about Hololive or vtubing in general.

>>39501102
I saw another anon describe that moment as her calling hololive/vtuber fans brainwashed. It's probably a bit too unfair of an interpretation but it's definitely based on the idea that most vtuber fans will forgive any mistake without question.

>got caught defending herself on 5chan
>got caught trying to join a streamer rust server with males on roommate account
>basic instabitch irl
>cares more about her roommate account than Hololive
>joined an utaite group after joining Hololive
>does 1 hour streams then immediately switches to her roommate account and plays valorant with her friends for 5 hours
>got caught messaging males on discord and people are suspecting she is dating ta1yo
>played valorant with Altare off-screen according to Kobo
>is taking a break for mental illness after not getting the highest views on the anniversary relay
>still playing valorant

>>39501478
Just stop making these when you have not actually seen any of these things happen and just base these off posts from this site.

>>39501581
That's some speculation there. To know that much means some research has been done; at least partially.
You seemingly denying all of it is the crazy one

>>39501113
yeah, it's just that there's so many small annoying things that have built up over time
>>39501239
she was caught playing on a rust streamer server that they'd been told to stay away from. if you were thinking she just wanted to play rust she only played on the holo server twice to my knowledge, both times well before they added the rules that made the others stop playing

>>39501373
No. Her statement was clear. "If I made a mistake, don't be soft on me and make me accountable". https://youtu.be/XNB5U5MBrjs?t=2352

>>39493359
I mean, look at it this way, you're not being punished for the crime itself but by being weak enough to let yourself be caught. I joke you not, that's how they interpreted it in the ancient Sparta and probably some other tribes and civilizations.

>>39501769
How am I speculating anything?
The fact that you get shit like this
>got caught trying to join a streamer rust server with males on roommate account
wrong for the third time after changing it just shows you didn't actually witness this event take place.
>You seemingly denying all of it is the crazy one
Now you're the one speculating. When did I deny any of it?
I'm just tired of you ENfaggots always flocking into JP drama threads and making up a bunch of shit based on what you saw someone else post which in turn enables slightly more informed but still deluded defenders to "debunk" it all.

>>39501581
>got caught defending herself on 5chan
Very funny one. Everyone knows about it
>got caught trying to join a streamer rust server with males on roommate account
iketog
>basic instabitch irl
Inference
>cares more about her roommate account than Hololive
Inference
>joined an utaite group after joining Hololive
https://youtu.be/J06yPPotyMg
Functioning ears
>does 1 hour streams then immediately switches to her roommate account and plays valorant with her friends for 5 hours
(source missing)
>got caught messaging males on discord and people are suspecting she is dating ta1yo
iketog
>played valorant with Altare off-screen according to Kobo
Kobo's twitter
>is taking a break for mental illness after not getting the highest views on the anniversary relay
Hololive official twitter
>still playing valorant
Should be >played valorant after not showing up to the HoloX anniversary stream
iketog

>>39502162
>iketog
So you even quote a source and still get it wrong. I get the feeling you never even looked at it and just throw these words around hoping no one calls you out.

>>39502073
I swear threadniggers are worse than Unicorns and Homobeggars combined, literally a subrace deserving to be slowly tortured to death in the work camps.

>>39502073
Seems like >>39501784 is refuting what you know about the Rust event.
I said "Seemingly denying" since anyone who knows nothing may interpret your comment as testifying against all the points mentioned

>>39502291
How did that post refute anything? What did I claim to know about the event? Your shitty bulletpoint list is still wrong about the Rust event, but you you don't know how or why because you once again did not actually see it.

>>39492132
it all went downhill when robert pattinson raped her

>>39492166
/hlg/ has done nothing wrong.

>>39502431
You're arguing semantics at this point. You haven't put forth what you believe happened for the Rust situation.
>Your shitty bulletpoint list
Not my list but it seems like you have an issue with the entire list afterall

>>39502431
Not me
>>39502245
2022年6月11日に行われた配信(VCTみますDay2 RiotGames許諾の元)にて配信開始から13時間33分頃経過したときにアプラスダークネスのディスコード通知が表示されました。

内容は「w」で「#vc2用,RUSTチャット」に書き込んだ通知が表示されていました。他のVTuberの通知も表示されていたのでラプラスと釈迦の個人的なやりとりではなくストリーマー用のRUSTサーバーに入っている人達の通知がたくさん表示されていたということになります。

上記のチャットの前に「unknown.png」というアップロードしていることがわかる通知が表示されました。

同じタイミングで芦澤サキというVTuberも「unknown.png」をアップロードした通知が表示されました。

>got caught in a streamer rust server discord with males

>>39502578
>You're arguing semantics at this point.
How? I get the feeling that you just post "ur arguing le semantics" when you don't know what to say. It's a critical detail that's wrong and not "semantics".
>You haven't put forth what you believe happened for the Rust situation.
I don't need to because you should already know what happened. I don't need to tell anyone what I believe happened and neither does anyone else.
>you have an issue with the entire list afterall
Yeah because it's literally a list of "what I believe happened" and not "what actually happened".

>>39502643
Now this is an actual record of what happened not "I think it went like this". Why are you posting it at me? I never denied it. I'm just calling you or someone else a retard for continuously posting shit that's wrong because they don't know what happened.

>>39502553
go back jpcel

>>39502781
I would wager more people think you're the biggest retard here

>>39502918
Yeah knowing what happened and not just threadreading is fucking retarded. Why waste all that time and effort when you could just read threads?

>>39502781
Anon the top guy you are arguing with did not make the list. I(>>39502643) was the one who edited the original shitty one I found months ago.
You kept getting mad about EOPs yet you didn't provide any actual reason as to why the list was wrong even when it was as easy as copying a paragraph of text like I did. Are you not an EOP yourself?

>>39502959
I'm calling you retarded for claiming most points presented are "what I believed happened" when that is not the case. I can't justify all the points but most of them are correct or not a far stretch from correct (The Stream times)

>>39503070
I already gave you one, you fucking retard.
>>got caught trying to join a streamer rust server with males on roommate account
If you knew what actually happened you'd know what's wrong with this one.
>You kept getting mad about EOPs yet you didn't provide any actual reason as to why the list was wrong even when it was as easy as copying a paragraph of text like I did.
Because I want you fucking gone instead of writing yet another greentext of warped reality and it would be even worse if it was based on my post.
>Are you not an EOP yourself?
Yeah I am and you're master of Japanese. I kneel, samurai.

>>39503143
>I'm calling you retarded for claiming most points presented are "what I believed happened" when that is not the case
Then what is it? It's full of opinions and things that did not happen. You asked me to tell you what I "believed happened" so I can assume that's the level you operate at.

>>39498415
They sure have forgiven Ayame though and keep forgiving her.

>>39503427
Even when someone spoonfed you where the information comes from, you simply say it's wrong. We're not getting anywhere here but I think that's your intention

>>39492986
>just after the stream end starts a new stream on her roommate account where she plays with her friends for 5 hours
Literally what is wrong with this? One is her job, the other is relaxing with her friends in her free time, which she's entitled to have

>>39503659
The greentext doesn't match the source nor the excerpt posted here. How the fuck am I wrong when you keep trying to claim that something false is actually correct?
I notice that you embarrassingly left out the part that was wrong in this post >>39502643 but you'll never admit that you got something wrong.
Now that were here we can finally do a side by side comparison just for your retarded ass.
>got caught trying to join a streamer rust server with males on roommate account
>got caught in a streamer rust server discord with males
See it yet? Are you going to now claim that the part about roommate account is just semantics?

>>39503949
Like he said she only does 1 hour stream which is the bare minimum then streams for 5 hours

>>39501325
because she collabs with males is why she "hates" hololive

>>39500560
Proof?

>>39503994
nta anon but you are a retard

>>39504054
She does collab with and go out of her way to defend males who hate Hololive, yes. But I think most people are okay with that.

>>39504313
True. Being right is fucking retarded. Don't be right about anything. It's best to just make shit up and see what sticks.

>>39501325
Diction is only 10% of communication. The same % she says she gives to Hololive, appropriately enough.

>>39503994
Anon you have to stop getting us mixed up. You are up against two guys here.

>>39492132
She's an unironically menhera and her bf broke up with her

>>39504438
Don't care. You both defend the same list and are on the same side of the argument. Even if you didn't post what the other one did, you agree with all of it.

>>39495893
>She got shit numbers for a first JP anniversary
What like 25k?

It's simple. She doesn't want to be "just a Hololive vtuber", she wants to become an e-celeb. There is nothing wrong with that, except her bluntly showing the attitude of using the Hololive career/fanbase as a stepping stone, ofc nobody like that. How do you even get attached to someone who clearly will dip after she's done with you?

>>39504517
I wrote it.
I appreciate your pushing for the truth as was my original intention, but you're seething way to hard at the imaginary EOP threat. If you knew what happened you could've just wrote it down and called me a retard.

>>39504682
I literally just told you to stop writing about shit you don't know about. Just stay in the EN threads.

>>39492986
>says she is a gachikoi
t. doesn't understand jokes.
>>39492986
she didn't say "disgusted", she said "nauseous" (due to motion sickness), EOP threadreader.

>>39504682
That guy doesn't seem to understand he is warping the truth by disregarding every point.
He has a strong bias on this discussion shown by the obvious chip on his shoulder

What's the Lui's yab

>>39505001
Marine calls an npc in a game an ATM and Lui associates that with hololive viewers

>>39504991
>he is warping the truth by disregarding every point.
Yet another thing that never happened. You just can't help yourself.

>>39505001
made a joke about hololive fans and atms or something

>>39500151
>>got caught defending herself on 5chan
I thought it was cute because she didn't post anything bad. But looking back at it right now, it looks more like an excuse for her laziness
>>say she gets gachikois and wouldn't want her oshi to interact with males
correct
>>to have gachikoi money
arguable. I don't think her intention matters, she lied and that's about it
>>is caught playing with males on a rust server
she got caught for being in the discord server, as to whether she got to play it is not very clear
>>basic instabitch
correct
>>has a timer on each stream and never streams for more than 1 hour
not true. She has a bunch of below-an-hour streams and long-hours streams. You can still shit on her stream hours tho
>>just after the stream ends she starts a new stream on her roommate account where she plays with her friends for 5 hours
This only happened once. Most of the time both her hololive stream and rm stream have about the same length if she decided to stream on both accounts on the same day
>>promoted her roommate so much account people are mainly talking about her roommate instead of laplus
Never happened
>>is caught messaging males on discord
It was a discord group with ta1yo
>>and people are suspecting she is dating ta1yo
she's on talking terms with him if not very close. again, their relationship status is irrelevant. she lied about not playing around off stream and that's about it
>>she played with Altare off-screen according to Kobo
correct
>>took a break for mental health reasons after getting the lowest views on the anniversary relay
wrong. personally idk know much about this point because I stopped following her months ago

>>39495893
It’s not just westerners, it’s literally the entire world because pretty much everyone on the internet outside of japan speaks english. So you always get an influx of new people from widely different circles who can pretty much keep any content alive, you just swap your original fanbase out for a new one. That’s just not possible in Japan because that’s one single cultural environment, on the internet too. There are little influxes of new people and those into vtubers have a more unified taste than the entire rest of the world, naturally. So they’re able to influence vtubers who do something her fans don’t want, because if they leave, she has nothing. If an EN does that, the fanbase can just be replaced by others

>>39492986
I don't care about Laplus, I don't care about any of this drama, I just come to these threads because it's very funny that (You) put this much effort into being upset about retarded shit or saving this drama copypasta.

>>39505001
Marine colled an npc an ATM because it was giving her money, Lui called it a Hololistener because they were simping for Marine. This meant you could pretend she called Hololisteners ATM's. The difference between fake yab's like that and real yab's is Lui talked about it right after it happened onstream and then moved on and everyone forgot about it. People here only learned about it long after it was already ended.

>>39505259
I think you just stating you're here is at least equally retarded. If you get down to it, we're all just wasting time here

>>39492986
>she played with Altare off-screen according to Kobo
*Plays with you specifically to ruin your reputation*
Sasuga woman hater

>>39504739
The guy brought more truth to the table than you

>>39505579
I never made any false claims about the events so my truth rate is 100%.

>>39494019
honestly the brian thing actually being her rigger is pretty weak compared to most others, even by en standards...
they literally live in seperate hemispheres compared to stuff like mukkuns account on the switch itself

>>39504620
This is it. Every other "reason" is just an additional avenue to shit on her because they hate her for this. I've seen people in both en and jp (and most of it is jp lets be real) talk about her like this since literal weeks after debut.

>>39504620
I'm not attached to her at all. The issue I have is that SHE is attached to an entire generation of Hololive vtubers and she's not just one of them, but the fucking central character of the group.
They have to keep acknowledging her disrespectful ass throughout all the group collabs even when she's not there and it ruins the atmosphere every single time.

>>39507145
I feel you bro. Bad influence on anyone who is involved with her. I must admit that on first glance, she's entertaining and lively but it's not worth it

>>39507346
>on first glance, she's entertaining and lively
She was those things and can be when she tries, but she usually just doesn't.

>>39507346
She's designed for clipwatchers, she only becomes a problem for streamwatchers.

>>39507527
You can't get clips when there's nothing to clip.

>>39507346
okay, dramasis.

>>39507613
Works for Ayame and Aqua.

>>39504620
how exactly will she dip? why would she throw away Hololive money and exposure?

>>39510590
They have hundreds of hours of old content. Laplus doesn't.

>>39504620
>she wants to become an e-celeb
She just wants fame and fortune to get surrounded by popular guys to be dicked on by and go out on parties with.
It's amazing how western she is despite not even speaking english.

>>39494019
no, she does have the charisma. more than Matsuri. if Matsuri can recover, La+ can, too.

>>39511567
>if Matsuri can recover
Matsuri didn't recover. Just because she's not being actively harassed doesn't mean things are good with her at all.
Matsuri broke bridges that are beyond repairable and lost a lot of fans and support. Of course that doesn't she is doomed but to say she recovered is an insane stretch.

>>39491975
She started so well, and her model is god-tier. I hope she will find the answers she needs and come back.

>>39492919
NTA but I don't speak Japanese.
I only watch clips

>>39494019
Was this written by a woman?

>>39494019
>Towa recovered
more like kenzocuck discord ruined Hololive by keeping this joke of a 'talent' afloat
>Matsuri recovered
roru rumao
Lapras took my supacha virginity so it's sad to see but nothing is gonna wipe that stain of flirting with homoscharts off-stream

>>39494768
That's how the japanese mind works, EOPchama. They aren't gutsy like a western who speak thing in public

>>39493359
nonono
You can do murder where everyone sees it too. In fact it's more fun that way.

>>39511567
laplus has the charisma but not the drive, she expected way too much support for the amount of effort she put in. also, matsuri didn't recover she just stabilized when she stopped spamming apex and attempted to rejoin the holobox. if you want to use matsuri as an example then I guess laplus can look forward to nobody working with or mentioning her unless they have to

>>39491975
Why does all the cunny turn out to be terrible.

>>39500151
>got caught defending herself on 5chan
Everyone interpreted this as cute and funny so she got the hard benefit of the doubt in the beginning and threw it all away

>>39520418
Most of the cunny is actually really good, though.

>>39491975
did she complain about something? can't find anything

Will you niggers just shut the fuck up and enjoy the cunny for fucks sake

Kek, someone was posting direct quotes from a literal dox site and the jannies won't do shit about it.

>>39491975
Are there clips of the mental break?

>>39520418
Because they give those models to zoomers who are prone to be lazy whores who love male fps playing e-celebs.
Give the loli model to a cake or a hag and see her succeed.

>>39492986
why are zoomer like this?

>>39523201
Never she's caught the eye of the sisters and they'll spend the next year shitting the board up with "OMG did u guys heard Laplus played APEX with a man what a sluuuuut" threads

Are you guys ready?

>>39525312
Its not even the sisters, its her own jp audience. I am Laplusfag and i don't care about what she does to herself but she lost a lot of respect from japanese viewers over the past 6 months. They would even use google translate to tell oversea viewers that Laplus is ditching her hololive career under youtube clips.

>>39525312
women ruin everything, especially other women

>>39525442
>I am Laplus fag
>I don't care about what she does
>But that anti shit is definitely true and I'll swallow it without critical thought and you should too
Sisters are you even trying anymore? Amateurish false flagging

>>39498599
>Brings up niji out of nowhere
Forever rent free brony chama.
Maybe you should watch streams so the evil nijis dont haunt your dreams so much.
Oh wait.

Beware. The cuckmate who can't even speak japanese and loves to call sister everyone who calls out its whore is here.

>>39498693
>I wouldn't give a shit if she was more isolated from the other holos but I can only see her as a mostly bad influence
She doesn't belong in hololive. Anyone who loves hololive would prefer to have her either isolated or completely out.
>>39500269
Not a chance

>>39520011
>>39512101
yes, I guess I accepted that part of Anon's premise.

you guys don't speak Japanese either.

>>39528304
you don't speak Japanese either.

>>39522743
it was.

>>39530024
I'm not a subhuman like you. Of course I speak japanese.
And stop deleting every reply like an underage clipwatching redditor... wait, you can't since that's exactly what you are.

>>39530186
it's not healthy to seethe this much, sister.

>>39525554
I just told you what i saw under clip and stream comments. Instead of wasting my time shitting in this useless thread I choose to rewatch the VODs and like Laplus fanart on twitter. I am sorry that you keep bumping this thread, anonchama.

>underage subhuman EOP gets called out
>muh sister
I accept your concession. Now shut up and stay cucked by a zoomer you don’t even understand.

>>39503949
>Literally what is wrong with this?
using your retarded way of speak:
she LITERALLY uses hololive, the company that her senpais worked so hard to make it grow and the be the n° 1 vtubing company in the world, just to bring the fans to her personal account, she doesn't care about hololive, she only wants the number and money it can provide, just to fuck around with other famous male streamers, she deserves everything that is happening to her

>>39492132
We could talk about the alleged BF debuff, but for me it was her saying she had herpes....i'm like 99% sure she meant she had a cold sore or a blister, but every time she said it i was just like "nope"

>>39495006
>silly
You are a faggot

>>39536421
if she was competent on her rm I could look the other way somewhat but she fucks around and puts in half-assed effort there just like she does as laplus

>>39492986
This is the dude she's supposed to be dating? Bruh how low can her standards get?

>>39491975
I wonder what nips thinks about her