/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>39441550
Saruei isn't a cunt, she's French. There's a difference.

>>39441550
gura's cunt deflection thread

>>39441550
Is it a coincidence that I stopped watching all three of them?

Do you think that's how coincidences work, anon?
If I frequen /pol/ often and then also say nigger often, is that purely coincidental?

>>39441550
If they're fans of Mori then they're trash. Hopefully they all graduate ASAP.

>>39441616
Spoken like a Frenchman.

Well they're are /here

>>39441550
No. It's well know fact that bitches attract other bitches.

Rin from Idol is also very much a deadbeat and that makes me not trust her at all. She is literally br*t Mori

>>39442363
Her collection of ikea sharks makes me not trust her.

Deadbeat chuubas you should avoid:
Nene Amano
Miori Celesta
Sauriel
Enna Alouette
Reimu Endou
Non Anon (she's also a dragoon)
Hoshimachi Suisei
Takane Lui
Ironmouse
Rikodou Yura

>>39442471
terumi also

>>39442471
>Nene
She's a deadbeat? No wonder she does those cringe Eminem covers.

>>39442471
>Nene
Doing GFE and liking Mori does not compute in my brain

>>39442471
What the FUCK is with women and Mori?

>>39441550
my wife is a deadbeat and she isn't a cunt

>>39442755
They think being an unsufferable cunt is empowering

>>39441550
Birds of a feather, anon. Assholes attract assholes.

>>39441550
>Mori is part Polish
You know which popular vtuber is also part Polish? That's right.

>>39442990
whats the other part? slut?

>>39443030
Brit. Although she doesn't really sound like someone from anywhere in those parts.

Do women like Mori in the same way teenagers liked punk rock?
>This system is wrong, and we are going to change it. And try to look badass while at it
kind of way?

>>39443562
Pretty much, they're for femcels still going through their edgy phase in their 20's.

>>39441972
>/pol/ out of nowhere
Go back.

>>39445973
I was going to use vt and watching vtubers as an example, but most people here don't watch vtubers do they?

>>39441616
No she is a cunt even by French standards, she has even admitted it by admitting she has “BPD” which is just a medical way of tricking women into admitting they are a bitch.

>>39441550
The funniest part is that both their fanbases try to push the whole:
>they're too bitchy so there's no way anyone would want to have sex with them, except me of course

>>39446027
Nobody on /k/ shoots
Nobody on /ck/ cooks
Nobody on /o/ owns a car

>>39446027
They don't stream so...

>>39447787
>nobody in /v/ plays games

>>39447655
blatantly false

>>39442471
Miori no....

>itt: anon finally learns that liking Mori is a red flag for any woman
It's like you guys are six+ months behind the times, is this the power of autism?

>>39448073
Where do you think she got her alcoholism?

>>39441550
I want Saru and Enna to rape me and call me names

>>39442471
>Yura
now the cuckening involving her and the homos makes more sense

>>39442471
Nihmune
Nana Asteria
Juniper/Egocider
AmaLee/Monarch
Kaneko Lumi (she's a doxxbeat)

>>39442471
>Yura

>>39441550
Fanbase reflects the oshi

Projection thread?

Is it physically possible for the average /vt/ catalog user to resist tying whatever dogshit bait or narrative they're trying to push back to Mori, no matter how nonsensical or tenuous the connection is?

>>39442471
>Myth was one of the biggest Vtuber gens in one of the biggest Vtuber corpos.
>Gura is a cunt, Ame is an awkward autist, Ina is a shy artist that doesnt really collab much, Kiara is an obnoxious self centered cunt
Now think about it, linking yourself to one of the bigger chuubas is good for your brand. A lot of these smaller vtubers put big holo names into their description as pseudo tags, by just naming them as inspirations.
Mori is someone that put herself out there from the early days of myth by collabing with trash taste and then others. She seems like the best option for linking up and possibly collabing in the future. If not on her holo account, then on her RM account.
Also, Suisei doesnt really hang out with Mori, their collab was strictly professional.
And Lui named Mori as her favorite Myth member because Mori was the only one that was still in Japan since Kiara left or was leaving at the time, I cant remember. So of course you're gonna name Mori as your favorite, that can help you boost your numbers (Lui was the worst one in that department from the start).

>>39451118
>Also, Suisei doesnt really hang out with Mori, their collab was strictly professional.
kek
>And Lui named Mori as her favorite Myth member because Mori was the only one that was still in Japan since Kiara left or was leaving at the time, I cant remember. So of course you're gonna name Mori as your favorite, that can help you boost your numbers (Lui was the worst one in that department from the start).
oh no, this man actually doesn't know

>>39451227
He is wrong about the kiara situation but otherwise correct.

>>39442471
Isn't Pippa a deadbeat too?

>>39451227
Proof next life I assume? That Suisei and Mori are just CHUMMING IT UP! You are one of those faggots that just says
>He doesn't know...
Without actually providing any info. Now you're gonna say
>Lurk more
Like a proper 4chan NPC that just repeats buzzwords because you are too mentally incapable for having a discussion.

>>39451269
anon, just cause squeezing info out of Mori is as easy as squeezing water from a stone doesn't mean you should ignore what's there: she already mentioned meeting up for multiple tea dates with Suisei and chatting up Lui about more offcollabs
and before you cope with usual :it's just Mori saying shit", Mel leaked that her, Mori and Ina met up like last fucking week without Mori making a single peep about it all this time

>>39451409
I mean IRyS met up with Mori way more than Suisei did but no one is putting her on this list for some reason. She even called IRyS by her vtuber name in public.

>>39451325
she's a Watamate, but Mori seems to be one of her favs

>>39451474
I mean, IRyS did not outright put Mori as her oshi, unlike Suisei, though she did mention being inspired by her at least on a handful of occasions
but this board has a definition of 'oshi' that basically equates to wife and gets weird when you have more than one, so shit gets muddled easily
some people still give Kiara, a proper idol otaku, shit for "switching" oshi from Pekora to Watame (rather than accept that she's oshi'ing both)

>>39441550
bitches attract bitches

>>39442363
she has like a hundred Ikea sharks that she autistically rants about, she can't be that bad

>>39449711
the true cuck experience

>>39451851
you're on a brink of a realization

>>39451895
yura was cucking her fans with male offcollabs and sex before nijiniggers made it cool

>>39452137
Anyone that oshi's soulless chinks deserved it. Those women are 20 times more ruthless and calculated than your typical western femoids.

>>39452264
yeah, bugmen genes make bugmen women literal witches when they get serious. Westoids are just dumb and brainwashed by the woke narrative, they are in bad faith but at least stand for something (feminism and sex revolution). Gook and chink women would sell their dogs, family and soul just to get a bit ahead

>>39452264
Is Yura chinese? All I know about her is that she used to do some light gfe a long time ago and that she's a personal trainer.

>>39441550
No it's not.

>>39449734
>Kaneko Lumi (she's a doxxbeat)
trust levels have never been lower

>>39451851
She has already said she doesnt mind male collabs and would do some if she met anyone that was willing. She will literally become the Mori of idol at some point and it's a matter of time.

>>39441616
>was kicked out of French art community for being a massive cunt and dramanigger
>ended up being hated by artists in eng community for being a massive cunt and dramanigger that used "friendships" just for numbers
Holy newfaggotry. It must be nice.
She has always been a cow her whole internet life.

>"Don't ever compare me to Mori again. I have enough people telling me I sound like her... I don't want Deadbeats in my chat."

>>39454047
Does that not describe most French artists?

>just realizing this

Anon, /wvt/'s anthem used to be OWTH. You also forgot Shiina from Phase Connect

>>39454139
Must have been bad

>>39454091
Woozie hands types this post

>>39442611
>She's a deadbeat?
She also owns Mori's daki

>>39441616
#NotAllFrog

>>39442471
Retard
Hoshimachi Suisei is an aquacrew member
Takane Lui is a based ichimi

>>39454454
Watch more streams. Lui practically said on-stream that she would drink Mori's vomit.

With all this in mind, how does one stop the fembeat scourge?

>>39454510
And yet she said on stream she was watching Marine for a long time before joining hololive and during a collab she didn't stop calling Marine cute and being shy

>>39454269
Shiina said her oshi is Ina, which is sad in a different way

>>39454557
We can already say that graduation is not the answer at all.

>>39454557
Too late, we should have ostracized mori harder in the beggining so actual fembeats wouldn't even try to become vtubers

>/morig/ always had "and the members of her Extended Universe"
>people thought it was just a meme.
>idiots like these antis just now realizing that Mori has inspired many vtubers.
KEK. it was staring you guys, the whole time.

>>39454124
Cool post, but a little offtopic.

>>39454557
Too late. The "incel" namecallers are already a clue

>>39454124
We're talking about the singularity here, the one that Enna is a part of.
>>39454883
Holy shit

>>39454883
They also discuss those chuuba's music too. Whenever Ririsya and Luci does Karaoke, /morig/ also discusses them.

>>39454510
Link ?

>>39454644
and yet during her anniversary she choose to perform one of Mori's originals

>>39455171
but Mori herself hates "incel" as an insult, something that she stated as both holo and rm, because she hates people being bullied over not being sexually outgoing

>>39454091
literally who

>>39441550
Mori continues to encourage the worst in people enclouding Vtubers that are dead beats mori and her fans are confirmed gutter trash nothing more than blights on the world

>>39441550
>effeminate /vt/ gay lords can't handle a bitchy woman like Saruei
lel
tell me you've been cucked without saying you've been cucked

>>39441550
yea but saruei is actually hot, enna is a gutter rat literal 1/10

>>39458630
her ASMR was actually some good shit
she was so embarrassed but tried to do her best, that was some powerful gap

>>39442363
>br*t Mori
Damn child needs correction

>>39441616
I'm pretty liberal about female chuubas and don't mind mean or dumpy ones, but Saruei is absolute shitlord and cunt in all aspects, both on screen and irl. She deserves all the hate she is getting.

>>39458630
It is pathetic to see you worship a low value woman like her.

>>39458545
A vtuber from a small corp that has been caught using /vt/ on stream.

>>39459271
does she at least get into the 2view territory?

>>39454269
I don't like current Mori but OWTH is pretty great in terms of message. It's pretty damning how much worse her new stuff is lyrically by comparison.

>>39459389
lol
lmao

>>39458381
I really wish Mori wasn't so retarded because shit like this makes me want to respect her.

>>39458315
It doesn't mean anything

qrd on Yura? last time i watched her she did some ASMR but didn't really catch my attention

>>39459358
I believe so though I haven’t really watched her streams myself. I believe you see more of her in the retro gamer and the small corpo generals, though that might just be her posting about herself. When she was bringing up her web browser to search for something related to a game she was playing it revealed she had two tabs of /vt/ open to those two generals.
From the (very) little I’ve heard or seen she doesn’t act like she is /here/ on stream in overt ways like pippa or kiki, though she is actually friends with kiki on the dl so who knows how she is behind the scenes.

>>39459553
She might be less irritating if she didn't constant feel like she's rather be doing anything other than being a Vtuber. Even with the springboard effect she's getting, you can tell she just doesn't like all the baggage that comes with the fans and so on.
Doesn't help she's somehow just fucking boring in all aspects of her streams.

>>39459553
her retarded moments and her respectable beliefs both take source from a hard anti-bullying and freedom of expression stance, her moderation is one of the softest in Holo and she didn't even ban the folks that sent all the troll/critical supers and comments
but at the same time she isn't really bothered about having a very polished public image and she will shit talk back

she did apologize to her fans for making it hard to publicly root for her due to that

>>39459784
you honestly seem too hung up on her tone, we know by fact now how little management cares about EN streaming to any degree and if she wanted she could easily just grab an Ina/Gura/Sana tier break at a whim if she really disliked this shit

>>39459913
Her tone is monotone, and she clearly would rather be doing her DD stuff more than larping as an anime girl.

>>39459553
Anything is possible though she has fucked up so often it could be a long time before people open up to her again.

>>39459793
By retarded I meant giving antis more attention than fans and hours of non stop Sherif Shrek Sandler "jokes"

>>39459977
she actually failed to deliver on DD stuff multiple times this month since she was too into her Holo streams

>>39460044
And what did she deliver for Holo again?

>>39442363
ANAL SEX CORRECTION

>>39460143
>time to deny any reply because only my opinion matters.

>>39460005
>giving antis more attention than fans
Not a bad thing. Drop dead diehard cuckbeats aren’t really her fans, they’re Calliope’s and are just yesmen. Criticism gives opportunity for honesty and improvement.

>>39459763
>starts off with light GFE pandering.
>flip-flops on GFE
>drops it for male collabs
>writing is on the walls for the dumb unicorns who belived her, people with some sense saw through her chink lies day 1
>>39449711
>this happens and kills all her unicorns
>she flies to japan and offcollabs with the male kson groupies

Now she is in boyfriend connect, the home of the used goods grifters. Not sure how she is doing view/income wise

>>39460143
an album
a 3D concert
pretty much a week of streams when most of the branch is/was laid out
jumping into Kiara's stream for an impromptu collab
apparently also got Ina to meet Mel, Mel leaked they had a tea date organized and paid for by Mori recently

>>39460044
That doesn’t actually address what he said.

>>39459668
sorry wrong reply >>39460239

>>39460280
>i-it doesn't count!

>>39460239
Who are you talking about?

>>39460280
no, the reply shows actual examples of her rather doing Holo stuff than the other thing, which goes against the implication he gets solely from her tone

>>39460005
sorry, both of these takes read as far too generalized to give a serious reply to, but I'm not this dude >>39460227
he's probably just here to cause shit

>>39460227
4chan isn't really pure in the regard you paint it to be. Is it still valid criticism, if no standard is held against the critic?

>>39460334
Who are you quoting? He said she is clear in what she would rather be doing, not what she is doing. Of course if you do a bunch of stuff you don’t really care about on a personal level it will come off as hollow. Do you have no reading comprehension at all?

>>39442471
Nene
>Regular ASMR with I'm your wife/girlfriend
>Regular shorts in the same vein
>Has told chat she loves them and will always protect their love of her
>Doesn't collab with male vtubers because gfe company
>Does not collab with flesh males because gfe company
She likes HoloENpink but does not immulate all her shitty disgusting habbits on stream hmmm

>>39460456
>I say it counts when I say it so!

>>39460456
one of the post hinges purely on trying to read someone's intent (in absence of any other cues than vocal ones), the one actually deals with reality of things
the latter is obviously more valid from standpoint of any reasonable debate

>>39447985
>Video games arent meant to be fun

Shiki I don't mind if you bodycount is in the double digits, I may have issue if it's triple but we can figure something out I'm sure

>>39451118
>Also, Suisei doesnt really hang out with Mori, their collab was strictly professional.
Newfag or cope?

>>39454384
We sure its not just her trying to leech Nene is a numberfag after all not as big as Oceanea but still pretty big

>>39460391
>he's probably just here to cause shit
This is what I am talking about though, you can’t just create narratives in your head to write off anyone that has a different belief or view. The way you do it is especially bad as you are not even allowing for others the agency to have a different view and instead substituting what they say with a different motive and belief. That they are lying rather than actually disagreeing with you, it isn’t healthy and isn’t the path to understanding or potential improvement.
>>39460447
Shii’s essay on the value of anonymity has stuck with me for a long time and even if his position on it has changed I am still an optimistic believer that there is more benefit than harm.

>>39451709
>this board has a definition of 'oshi' that basically equates to wife and gets weird when you have more than one
Please, kill yourself!

>>39460741
Stop coping, most of the names listed are topics in /morig/

>>39442832
Her mentioning that unironically turned me off so much that i don't watch her stuff anymore

>>39458648
4/10 imo I'd fuck her raw in every hole but I'd make her get an abortion

>>39460784
while what your saying does not disqualify your view, using troll buzzwords might
and it just does for me and I don't want my opinion to be associated with it, even if it seems to be agreeing with my point

>>39460741
>trying the leech angle when you have been trying to tell people for the past months that Mori is a nobody.

The anti hurt itself in confusion

>>39460511
ESL-kun…
>>39460530
You think that if she could have the same level of success, marketability and financial security on her private ventures as she does now with Hololive she would continue to work with Hololive? I don’t have any illusion that she would.
Meanwhile there are others that don’t need Hololive at all such as Noel or Reine who still vtube because they actually want to.

>>39461032
Everyone wants a piece of the Hololive buff. They aren’t going to get it from someone like Gura even before her tummy hort departure.

>>39461090
Anon, you're clearly biased with the assumption you've put towards her and is just arguing in bad faith, despite all the evidence stacked against you.

>>39461032
>>39460827
>Mori bad all association bad no argument unga
/vt/ brain rot at its finest I would say something about an echo chamber but I don't wanna tax those brain cells by forcing a
>Go back
Reply

>>39461166
You just do not comprehend actual admiration and always default to saying everything you do not like is putting on a facade.

I get it now.

>>39461000
>and it just does for me and I don't want my opinion to be associated with it, even if it seems to be agreeing with my point
Why? You are nothing but your opinion and every post exists on its own. If you feel you have better posts and beliefs then those posts will speak for themselves and the praise will be about what you really think without any taint from prior reputation or other posts.
If you are really concerned about people mistaking you for someone else or another’s beliefs for yours then you should just start tripfagging.

>>39461335
Which is why anonymous opinions are junk because they follow no standard.

Who criticizes the critic? Who watches the watchers?

>>39461090
by this logic the only people who like their job are only the ones that can afford not doing it, which is flawed from the outset
the proof that Mori likes doing stuff for Holo is her continued activity in it, when we know for a fact it's not strongly required by anyone, neither the management nor the viewers, casual or otherwise
she could totally get away with focusing on her other side and for short stints of this year there were small periods when she did, but she still returned with high output for Holo when she could've just... not do that, and be perfectly fine

>>39461411
This even is illustrated in the myriad of "fantano gave Mori's new album me bad rating threads". When the antis don't get what they want, they try to legitimize their opinion by defaulting to experts , which is why that Brad reviewer got a meal ticket with Mori antis' views.

>>39461565
>Brad reviewer got a meal ticket with Mori antis' views.
Really funny that he deleted his IRyS review after he didn't get the response he wanted. Shows you how much integrity he has.

>>39460741
Have you tried like, watching her?

>>39461411
Everyone can equally. You can. I can. Value speaks for itself, “the cream will rise to the top.” Evaluating an argument on other criteria unrelated to what is being said smacks of ad hominem. Karma, usernames, the powers that be mandating certain discourse, I hate it all on a moral and philosophical basis. For some things it is unavoidable, but it can taint the message. If calliope truly turned over a new leaf on everything it would take a long time for people to trust and accept it due to her prior actions and behavior. Some never will. Even in this thread where people admire things she has said or done there is hesitation because of who is saying it and her prior behavior.
I am serious about what I said, if you really do think another way is better than you can use a tripcode. It is a built in feature for that purpose.

>>39461917
Anon, you're mistaking me with another.

This is another weakness in your belief. How can discourse happen if everyone is just shouting in a void with no way to identify which one is which.

bad faith arguments start from having a concrete opinion, only for outside interference to happen, leading to exaggerations, as well as outright misinformation.

>>39461917
Also, if 4chan works, then why are the Mori antis still crying to Black Twitter and trying to validate their opinion using RateMyMusic?

>>39462027
>Anon, you're mistaking me with another
I am not. You are post 39462027, anonymous. What I say is addressed to you and any other that is reading the thread. If you were every poster in this thread or just one, the response to what you say in a post should be the same because that is what matters.
I also disagree with you regarding arguments in bad faith, as you attribute it to outside factors rather than intent. Someone being wrong is different from someone arguing in bad faith. You can even be correct but still be arguing in bad faith.
If you feel so strongly against the value of anonymity then why don’t you actually use a tripcode? Do you worry of being belittled for it? Be the change you wish to see in the world.

>>39462066
Those have little to do with each other. People cite numbers and outside views on both sides of discussions, often times quite nebulously. Not everyone believes in the same things as you or as I.

Whatever they did it has to be based since it made you fags seethe and shit up the board.

>>39442471
>Hoshimachi Suisei
She doesn't count. She can't speak English.

>>39458648
>saruei is actually hot
>tattoos
>hot

>>39441550
eh

>>39441550
Saru is really cute though
https://litter.catbox.moe/iwl1fl.mp4

>>39446085
Funniest thing I’ve read all month. Based.

>>39452471
>sell their dogs
Not if they're hungry.

even my black friend who was a fucking newfag to vtubers knew that mori was obnoxious
dumbass chumpedo though but he dropped her after a month so we can brush that off

>>39469473
>he dropped her after a month
mah nigga

>>39442832
Didn't she do a collab with that male dramatuber?

>>39461256
I don't agree with the nene being a leech. But Saruei is definitely just leeching off Mori since she was the only one who let it happen and was the second biggest HoloEN(at the time)

>>39472177
Holy fuck, /vt/ really is like a bunch of women gossiping and distorting facts
Depressed Nousagi paid her to voice a character in one of his videos, that's it

>>39454047
You've described the two worst communities that aren't named "ISIS". Being scorned by French art tweeters and English art tweeters is a stamp of based. I watched one of those things happened in real time and it only made me think she was a normal human being. I don't even like her streams because that dommy mommy shit ain't for me but having her put that advertiser-editor chode in his place was tres magnifique.
captcha: 2DMVAJ

>>39472635

>>39454124
cope and seethe. Enna is just as complacent in the entire affair and at of the day both kyo and enna DID NOTHING WRONG. You faggots are just fucking spergs that never even watched enna, otherwise you'd know she's always shat on unicorns and thought faggots like you were pathetic.
"But she's a cute anime girl, that means she's automatically pandering to my schizo tendencies" you fags are just autistic. Niji has never been the GFE company.

>>39475155
He literally makes fun of her entire audience with random cuck comments and she doesn’t give a single shit (about her audience apparently).
Deadpeeps / aloucucks are honestly living on another planet by this point.

>>39475155
She’s a virgin though.

>>39446085
Kek

>>39441550
Is this the queen of spades girl?

>>39442040
Cuntman*
fix'd that for you

>>39454047
>literally just described the entire art community
How does she not fit in, exactly?

>>39442755
They don't like her.
This is the equivalent to sucking up to the queen bee to try and replace her.

>>39475155
>Niji has never been the GFE company.
lol
lmao even

>>39441550
I will now watch the pinoy and the French bitch.

Saruei seems fuckable, but not datable. That's a pass in my book, because (LOL) Mori isn't either.