/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

Ye, our child was born yesterday. Sorry for the inconvenience.

>>39394480
>tweet

>>39394480
>Gura
>Tweeting
I heard worse lies

>>39394480
Gura...famous for connecting with fans on Twitter

>>39394602
Can vouch, I'm the child.

>>39394480
>She will continue to use Twitter
She used it?
Chumpedos are on suicide watch, I hope for them Tyrone won't rough her up too much during this "break due to health reasons"

>>39394480
Lmao
>she will still continue to use twitter to connect with fans.
Do management even do their reps? The only thing gura ever uses twitter for is to retweet lewd fan art of her. Do they think her fans are a bunch of newfags who don't know gura's twitter record?

dejavu is strong

>>39394480
Ina's break is 90 days, she's aiming at at least 100

She could actually have liver damage from her alcoholic days if there was to be anything seriously wrong with her. She used to drink heavily and often.

>>39394480
All I thought of when I saw the announcement was that she's pregnant. It's the only health related thing that she would feel uncomfortable sharing with fans. Cancer? You'd explain that. Injury to self or family member or death of family member? You'd explain that.
Telling a bunch of parasocial idiots that you're pregnant? No shot.

>>39394480
>she will still continue to use twitter to connect with fans
lmfao

>>39394777
All I got from this is that we’ll get management tweets about Christmas and new years. No way gura is active on her own accord

>>39395215
Could be liver damage, people would automatically link that to her alcoholism and it would be extremely embarrassing for her. Pregnancy, while possible, seems like an easy answer to something we will probably never know.

>>39395194
Meh, at her age? Doubtful, the liver is one of the most regenerative organs we have. Even with heavy alcoholism it usually takes a decade or more to really fuck up your liver.

>>39395559
Before Gura all she could do to get an audience was drink and get high just to amuse the underage kiddies.

>>39394480
>but will continue to tweet
t. Jenma

Stop settling for people who don't even take their jobs seriously.

>>39394480
Even when she does tweet its just "bluhbluhbluh sleepy hmm emoji" nonsense, not exactly thrilling. I'd rather she take a full break than have a manager shit out moronic tweets

Took Pomu 21 days to undergo and recover from major cancer prevention surgery and she was in other people's Minecraft streams less than a week after getting home.

Rosemi didn't take any time off at all after her pet died. Reimu took only a week off after her 20+ year old dog died.

Millie pre-recorded an entire week of ASMR videos while she was recovering from Bronchitis.

Your opinions on NijiEN or its members are irrelevant. Hololive fans deserve better that the absolute slop you get fed from lazy fucks. Friendly reminder that Sana graduated due to terminal back ache.

>>39396354
wow what a black company! should've let the talent rest ffs

>>39394480
It's more like her management will continue to tweet for her lol

>>39396354
Magni also has severe back problems but he still streams.
You dont have to venture into nijIEN for this kind of shit dude, HoloJP also kept their fans up to date while they recovered from stuff.

Crohn's/Ulcerative Colitis

Just let the dumb retard graduate already or let Kana/Luto/Yuko/Mumei/Filian take over her body and re-fill the "derpy twitch lingo zoomer girl"

>>39396474
This is the real answer almost assuredly.

>>39396454
Fair enough. Though HoloJP does also have really egregious examples like Ayame and Shion who basically only exist on days they can make a lot of money, and Aqua streams way less than she used to now. All without much communication.

>>39396354
>>39396454
I think the takeaway from this is that HoloEN is a lazy as fuck Corpo and Yagoo needs to deploy on the ground Managers to whip the girls into shape

>>39396454
Kanata used to post shorts almost everyday of her covid voice when she was sick.

>>39396354
Kiara was literally unable to speak and did one of the most kino streams in months. It's literally just Gura/Ina who said "taking a break but will tweet updates!" and go radio silent for weeks.

>>39396753
What stream was that? Did she get deepthroated too much?

This must be that quality over quantity that I have been hearing about.

>>39396555
who/who/who/who/who/who

>>39395799
Ok, but it’s not as if she streamed all that much at the time even then.

>>39396875
If you don’t have basic knowledge like who those are, then why the fuck are you even /here/?

Tweets : hey guys. Did you buy merch uwu

>>39394602
Can vouch, I'm the placenta.

>>39396875
You're trying too hard chumbud

>>39396787

>>39397057
*Posted from Desktop PC - Cover HQ, Tokyo, Japan

so realistically what's wrong with her? Can't be that bad if she'll still be tweeting and shit.

>>39394480
nice christmas present, gura. Very cool

>>39397150
fucking hell I keep saving all these soundposts with the filename and they still fuck up, who's responsible for this

>>39397219
She's dead. Management is tweeting.

>>39397150
The link please.

>>39397219
Early stages of cancer

>>39394602
Can vouch, I'm Gura

>>39397320
It's a member stream and the Streamable got taken down. She did a whole sock puppet crafting and concert stream puppet syncing to Hololive songs.

>>39397377
Found it, thanks.

>>39397219
She has chronic fatigue syndrome

>>39397219
The info they're giving us is so vague it could be anything from cancer to Gura just taking a mental break to enjoy the holidays.

>>39394777
You can look at this as a passive aggressive way of making sure she stays active on Twitter while on hiatus.
"Don't worry Mr. Smith our daughter is VERY sorry and will be on her BEST behavior."

>>39394480
I guess it's quality tweet > quantity stream for now lol

>>39397219
probably lupus

I hope she makes a full recovery and comes back soon.

>>39397597
This.
But gura is manipulative bitch herself, so this childplay won't work on her, of course

Well she finally let fans know that she's taking a break instead of just taking one without saying anything. It's a step in the right direction. I'm not sure why the criticism is increasing.

>>39397943
Costanza-chan...

>>39396555
No fuck Kana fucking bitch

>>39396753
I don’t know what Gura’s problem is but Ina has never cared about her fans and she made this obvious from day one, you are nothing but a means to an end for her.

If you need to watch streams everyday, might I consider you taking a break from the screen and go outside for a little while because you my friend have an addiction.

>>39396941
Anon you misunderstand. She drank all the time back then. 24/7. She talked about it openly being a problem. It's entirely possible that in a depressed state she has fallen back into it.

>>39395799
Wasn't she a VA? You don't need to get drunk to do voicework

>>39394480
And you will continue to make threads about her daily

>>39398307
t. Mizuha Nanoha

>>39398883
>go outside
For what purpose?

She's obviously pregnant with a black baby

Holo EN needs to be put out of its misery at this point. I feel bad for Kiara having to carry the branch on her back despite being sick because everyone else is too lazy. Honestly what’s stopping Gura and Ina from just graduating at this point?

>actually has a health problem
>/vt/ faults her for it
There is no board worse than this shithole.

>>39395194
You fucking retards still believe that despite her putting in the description of her Senzawa videos that she was not actually drunk. Why do people like you exist? Why can't you fucking read? Why am I even typing this post to a fucking retard like you

>>39396354
Pomu was also in Elira/Finanas VC every other stream for that break period. Can't imagine the stress she was under, I think she was still working full time at that point as well.

>>39399476
Gura and Ina will come back just to announce they're graduating

>>39399539
You can put anything in a description. Doesn't mean it's true

>>39395473
While whatever's going on might be related to her being an alcoholic if it was liver failure it wouldn't be an ongoing problem. When your liver fails you don't usually get any warning, you feel fine then one day you start turning yellow and if you don't get a transplant very quickly you're dead.

I still think clock's
>I'm back!
>1 stream
>I'm gone
Is worse

>>39396354
So just ignore Vox and Mysta taking a one-month break?

>>39399625
Right, she just magically stopped drinking cold turkey because hololive hired her. Excellent insight, retard-kun

>>39399708
Because a sudden bad thing happened. Are you subhuman trash really that fucking gone?

>>39399829
It was over a goddamn cat and even Fauna wasn't that weak when her cat died

>>39399720
He didn't mention them, but yes you're right. NijiEN males are as lazy as HoloEN females. Success breeds laziness.

>>39399903
Kill yourself.

>>39399940
You first, chumpedo

>>39399929
So where do Nijifags come off trying to act superior?

>>39399637
When did Gura say she's an alcoholic?

>>39400003
Imagine not getting rock hard at gura's lithe body

>>39400086
She never did, people just assume it because of her RM.

>>39400086
You don't drink like she used to if you're not an alcoholic

>>39400096
Kinda hard to do that when she doesn't fucking stream. Hags on the other hand always stream and actually have tits

>>39400186
Lithe doesn't mean flat. She is canon flat but you don't have to look at that art :^)

>>39396662
HoloEN minus a few exceptions. Listen, I know what people usually say about Mori. But lazy, she is not.

>>39399539
She streamed drunk regularly dude. Newfags shitpost about it but it was an actual problem for her

>>39400086
Her rm drank a lot on stream and Gura hardly drinks on stream. It could be for any number of reasons but “wanting to hide just how much of an alcoholic she is/was” is a rrat with a lot of currency because of it all. I have no idea desu, but I find the idea that Gura is alcoholic to be plausible, at least.

>>39399053
Anon she was an alcoholic

>>39400078
I’m assuming it’s the ones who aren’t Chinese women who shitpost /here/.

>>39396354
Funny bc Sana admitted after she graduated she was entirely healthy

>>39400282
Finally someone who actually remembers it was a legitimate issue and not just a funny shitpost we proceeded on after she got better

>>39400358
So in other words, Sana was just a lazy whore

>>39400273
Thanks Mori for giving your antis minute details on your life.

>>39394480
She got married, many thought it was Ina but it was Gura

>>39400302
So if her previous job was being one of the millions of unsuccessful streamers out there, all her weirdly specific knowledge of Disney isn't because she worked there? She really was blowing all her booze money on visiting Disneyworld like once per month until she had the entire park literally memorized?

>>39394480
When did this board get psyoped into being antis for the stupidest of reasons? Is there anyone still here? Am I surrounded by bots!??!?!!!!!???!!!? HELLO???

>>39400481
I don’t even understand what you are trying to say. She had a job before she blew up on YouTube

>>39400282
She acted drunk for laughs, just like her videos. You tards actually believe she quit cold turkey because hololive is magic. Fucking brain damage

>>39400495
>Am I surrounded by bots!??!?!!!!!???!!!?
Yes. Also go back

>>39400495
You need to understand the kind of filth that still hangs around the catalogue. They've been buck broken so hard by whatever it is that they got offended by, that they now just live off drama and numberfagging.

>>39399720
NTA but Vox and Mysta were both clear that they were taking a month off and regularly engaged with fans on twitter in the meantime. Plus, 2/26 members at the time doesn't put the branch in a critical situation even if their lack of presence was felt.

>>39400358
That shit was crazy, she even went ahead to shit on sanalites too. That kind of blackpilled me on vtubers, I feel like most if not all of them feel this way

>>39400567
>playing DbD silently while drinking is for laughs
just admit you didn’t watch her streams

>>39396354
so then now we know who are the lazy streamers

>>39400625
Those are the only two I know of. Literally one faggot got fired for being inactive. So fuck off with the disingenuous bullshit because I'm willing to bet Pomu is an exception, not the rule.

>>39400703
Admit you're fucking retarded, nigger

>>39400567
How do you niggers know she ever quit at all? Functional alcoholics are a thing

>>39399053
Gura a known alcoholic lol.
>>39395559
>>39395194
Def doesn't have liver damage at her age. But she probably is being put in rehab by cover. The "medical issues" are her addiction, not bodily damage.

>>39400078
Because everyone in holoen is lazy, while at nijien at least the girls actually put in work friendo :)

>>39400775
>say dumb shit
>get corrected
>seethe and double down
as expected from a newfag knuckle dragging mongoloid

>>39400770
The faggot got fired for being a menhera troon, not for lack of streaming. Even they streamed more often than Gura in the time they were around

>>39400843
Do they? I wouldn't know.

>>39400358
Yes, that's how recovery works.

>>39400874
>they
lol

>>39400801
Alcoholism rehab takes 6 months?

Ok I'm just gonna say it. I'm gura's cousin. She isn't streaming because she's in Japan negotiating with Kson and Gunrun to join vshojo.

I'm only saying this because her mother is a cunt who ran over my dog and refuses to take responsibility. So this is how I get back at her

>homostars debut
>all EN girls go on hiatus

>>39400965
Thanks but you have to prove you're her cousin.

>>39400873
You didn't correct shit retard you simply believe that she was a raging drunk then quit cold turkey because hololive is magic

>>39400965
Will she become a bigger whore than Kson?

>>39400973
Oh don't worry they'll get back in the swing of things. You clearly want more collabs since you think about them so much.

>>39398883
>go outside?
And do what? People always say this but do what exactly? The people you're saying this too most likely have no friends irl in their local area, have no significant other to go to places with etc. Not to mention the fact that normies don't even really go outside themselves that much to get alternate forms of entertainment unless it's some planned social outing. Zoomers do everything online nowadays, normie or otherwise, millenials just watch netflix all day, boomers are just couch potatoes that watch tv all day.

There is no 'going outside' these days to anything, it's not like the 1970s or something anymore where people went to discos/bowling/other manual outdoor hobbies all the time, "just touch grass bro" is literally an outdated concept. Not to mention the world is fucked and depressing now anyways; go outside and what? Have to see the news about the unstable political climate? Go out and get infected with the next covid strain? Have to listen to normies prattle on about some stupid culture war bullshit they read on facebook? Fuck going outside. Watching these streams is all some of us have.

>>39401027
She literally just wants to stream OSU. That's it

>>39401048
And some of us don't even have grass to touch within a reasonable distance

>>39394946
miko hiatus was +100 days. she went to the hospital and all. she came back with a huge 3d live show. most people here are too young to remember.

>>39400627
Point me in the right direction to this content anons

>>39401048
Open your mind. The only limitation is your creativity. There might be something out there you don't see because you're not there. That alone is enough to at least try different things. Have hope.

>>39401017
>quit cold turkey
never said she quit anything, you wrongly
said she just acted drunk for laughs In her PL which is incorrect.

>>39400874
Yugo has streamed more after graduating than 50% of HoloEN kek

>>39401124
City slicker blues. Countryside is the best and city folk don't know what they are missing.

>>39400358
sana was like "i am too sick to stream" while she was doing sponsored streams on her alternate account. no bet cover fired her.

>>39394480
Gura's so special she needs announcements for when she finally decides to post a tweet.

>>39401167
Nigga shut up. There’s nothing to do outside except deal with annoying people at college or deal with annoying people at your wage slave job. I would still be NEET if my parents weren’t dead

>>39401180
You implied it. Where's her drinking habit now? How did she have an incredibly productive first year with hololive coming off of being a daily drinker or at the very least drinking multiple times a week? The answer is she wasn't a drunk, and her descriptions were true. It was a gag you took seriously and now create rrats about it because you're a chimp

>>39399485
Sorry but this is a boy who cried wolf situation. I believed Ina because she's a good girl. I'll believe Gura when I see some receipts.

>>39401412
>Ina
>a good girl
Lol
Lmao even

>>39395215
We'll probably never know the real reason(s) but my money is on depression/burnout.

>Winter, which causes seasonal depression in a lot of people due to lack of sunlight
>Christmas, which causes depression in some people due to loneliness/poor familial relationships
>Just finished two big projects a couple months ago, and without rehearsals/deadlines/etc. the stress is finally taking its full toll
>Vicious cycle because she wants to stream and have the relationship with her fans like she did before starting her big projects, and every time she can't put on her happy face and go live she feels guilty about it

I want her to get better, but there's nothing any of us can do about it unless she's live. I'm sure management desperately wants to avoid an on stream breakdown, but the disappearing act is far more damaging. Pippa had one not that long ago and it hasn't negatively affected her in the slightest.

>>39401385
>implied
imply this dick in your moms mouth retard
>productive first year at hololive
she had multiple months to get herself ready for hololive. Do you know how long shit takes once you get past auditions?
>a-actually it was a gag!
as I said you are knuckle dragging nigger who never watched her old streams

I knew this was going to happen, and I hope she enjoys the time off for herself and her health.

My only issue is why not announce you were going to do this months prior when these signs were clearly visible instead of forcing yourself.

>>39395194
Yeah I'm honestly pretty worried for her. People shitting on her for putting her health first need meds

>>39396354
>"every medical problem is the same"
american education at work

Gura will come back in 4 months to announce her graduation

>>39400302
Remember when she got blootered during her New Year stream and panicked and said she'd ban people if they kept saying she's drunk as she clearly slurred her words?

https://youtu.be/A4sVixs137Y

>>39401564
It was a gag you ape. You just want your rrat to persist. Drink bleach faggot

>>39401566
cover is a black company that continued to goad and nag her into performing mascot duties.

>>39401566
I’m glad they finally announced the break instead of her just beating around the bush for weeks. Schizo are gonna speculate but she’s been showing signs for a while now.

>>39401672
stay mad + wrong

>>39401799
No u

>>39400901
So why did she graduate if literally days after graduation she was 100% fine.
Obviously her health wasnt the reason.

>>39394480
>Kiara verifiably dying, streams
>Gura allegedly dying, doesn't stream
I wonder why Cover hates Kiara so much they force her to work while sick

>>39401936
Cover doesn't hate her, she's just a better streamer. Kiara cares about the job.

>>39402055
Real talk, this is true. As far as content goes, Kiara is a better streamer.

>>39401301
Write a book about it.

Are we at the point where we just consolidate Myth, Council, and Hope into a single gen?
Does Myth have a single streamer who isn't dead or more dedicated to side projects?

The worst part of this is that it just further delays any sort of progress on HoloENs 3D debuts.
Myth still hasn't done theirs, and the consensus is that Council is waiting to do theirs until Myth has done theirs.
We really will have another paid wall 3D reveal with 4thFes because of all this...

It's over :( Unironically bummed about this announcement, I liked it more when we thought she was just rich and lazy. I love that dumb shark and I hope she comes back. Thank god IdolEN showed up when they did, Fuyo has been excellent copium for losing Gura and most of the other holoENs.

Dropped my membership, I'll always like her but I just don't see enough content to warrant paying. Hope she feels better or whatever is going on works itself out.

>>39402306
It’s not the 1900s anymore nobody gives a fuck about books

>>39402510
>said the socially retarded zoomer

>>39402510
Write a.... Blog?

>>39397219
Heart attack from vaxx maxing. Please understand.

>>39396354
My take away from this is NijiLivers can't afford to just step away from their careers without absolutely destroying whatever momentum they have. Must suck to not be as popular.

>>39401385
People with drug and alcohol problems can get their shit together for long periods of time but all it takes is something stressful and thinking "a little bit'll be fine, just to help me deal with this, I'm better than I used to be" and then they relapse and it's back to square one.

>>39402479
You shouldn't feel bad about dropping membership, gura would 100% understand it

>>39401048
honestly kind of based

>>39402479
Go for kaela. She is so good and works really hard. She deserves more subs.

>>39400319
faggot, no one knows that. you can't believe what they tell you. otherwise all of them would be virgins who are lesbians. they know all we are to them are "atms" when they say the love us, they really mean, they love that we are stupid and horny enough to throw money at them without questioning anything

>>39400495
a lot of people here just want to watch the world born. they don't care if it is holo, niji or whatever. if there is a yab, there will be a campaign to make their lives shit. Gura has been safe for a while, but this board will turn on anyone eventually.

>>39403036
we already went over this in the thread so I'm just going to call you a nigger

>>39401048
I go for walks in the woods. Helps clear your mind and the best part is that it doesn't involve any other people.

>>39394480
>She will still continue to use Twitter to connect with fans
This is about Ina isn't it

>>39396607
lol Shion tweets almost daily, despite not knowing what to tweet about. Ayame is also far more active on her secondary twitter account now too. With Gura you’re lucky if she tweets out more than a couple non-shill tweets a month.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3nsSsaEByU

>>39401048
>And do what? People always say this but do what exactly?
Literally anything. Sunlight improves mental and physical health. Outdoor air is cleaner than indoor air, even in shitholes like LA/NY.
>discos/bowling/other manual outdoor hobbies
Still exist.
>Go out and get infected with the next covid strain?
Literally does not exist
>Have to listen to normies prattle on about some stupid culture war bullshit they read on facebook?
90% of normies are too scared to bring that shit up to your face even to other normies they know will agree with them.

You would know all of this if you ever actually went outside instead of wasting your life in a computer chair.

>>39403822
obvious you are a privileged tranny who probably lives in some urban city, doesn't know what it's like to live in an actual shithole in the middle of nowhere

>>39403608
Probably. Something happened with management after Vesper's suspension
>No more collabs with tempus
>Everyone suddenly resurrecting and coming back from their breaks
>The ones who still wont come back at least tried to give a return date
>Kiara is working harder than ever
>Gura is gone, but at least her manager will take care of her twitter
It feels like someone from the JP side finally saw the EN mess

>>39394480
At this point, forget about tweeting. Just concentrate on getting better. Stay with family and leave her work phone home, like Ina.

>>39399476
>I feel bad for Kiara having to carry the branch on her back
KFP, enough is enough now.

Aight, canceling membership. I already had to downgrade from the Shark Side tier because of lack of streams. I don't even care about "communication" or whatnot, I'm not giving money to someone who simply doesn't stream even before health issues came up. It's clear that Gura from 2021 is never coming back

Usually when a member gets sick, other member put get well messages on their post, but with gura I see nothing, Is she really that much of an asshole to other members?

>>39401132
And every single day she tweeted about what she did to try and not worry her fanbase. Something I doubt any EN would do

>>39401132
the difference is that miko loves her fans and loves streaming

>>39404652
>It's clear that Gura from 2021 is never coming back
Or 2020 for that matter. Good on you for finally getting out. I also walked, though mostly because I realized the membership simply wasnt worth it.

>>39404652
Well that was expensive, I'm sorry you had so much hope bro.

>>39404652
I know its hard to see that streak broken, but good job; more than the small amount of money every month, its about self respect

>>39395215
>>39395473
pregnancy honestly makes sense considering she has had trouble with her consistency since the summer, i.e the latter half of her pregnancy leading up to now. it's unironically the explanation that fits the best.

>>39400627
Proof next thread

>Gura officially on hiatus
The absolute state of EN. Literally the only good streamers left are Fauna and Irys. I’ve been watching more Fauna lately so I’ll probably just keep watching her but EN is unironically dead

>>39399476
>Holo EN needs to be put out of its misery at this point. I feel bad for Kiara
And you fuckers keep wondering why everyone hates KFP.

>>39400358
>>39400627
QRD ?

>>39404946
Fauna is actually best EN. She's a gamer who likes her job and chat. Kiara is #2 solely because of her work ethic, if she liked games more she'd be too chicken

>>39398081
I expect we will see obligatory holiday messages and odd likes and retweets but that's about it.

>>39405124
Top chicken*

Fuck mobile posting

>>39404655
They know already what she's going through, which is nothing and they don't wanna play around anymore with the facade

>Ina can't tweet on her break, she must be lying!
>Gura can tweet on her break, she must be lying!

>>39404946
>Fauna and Irys
lol this is how you know /#/ has entered the thread.

>>39405124
I respect Kiara for the hustle but I can’t do her voice. Even still with Gura gone thats only 3 good streamers left in Holo EN, including chicken. You can’t deny that the branch is fucking dying

>>39405026
Lurk for a thousand years, fag

>>39394480
It is kinda incredible how this whole year has been full of unannounced breaks that got progressively worse as time went on. And what do you get at the very end of it all? A super long announced break! Remember when she said this year was going to be great and full of fun stuff to look forward to? lol.

So if this is pregnancy how does the timing line up with that party mori subjected her to? Was gura actually raped and is now dealing with a rape baby?

>>39405204
correct

>>39405311
Nah I think saying the branch is dying is just doomposting. Watch Yagoo release gen 3 and all the worries disappear

>>39405460
>he doesn’t know
The auditions for the next holo EN vtubers are for holostars.

>stupid fucking bitch, we have Holofes in 3 months, fix your shitty health
How I imagine it went down.

>>39405311
>I respect Kiara for the hustle but I can’t do her voice.
Well aren't you in luck, she's sick and doing a silent stream right now lol

>>39394480
So shes vaxxed and had a heart attack?

>>39405596
I thought auditions were just open in general no?

>>39405726
yes

>>39405726
That's how I understood it too. They just advertised the stars side. My guess is that the Hololive applications are already overwhelming management

>>39399053
>Wasn't she a VA
>Knows the project lead for something she was supposed to do VA work on
Lol no. She was gonna be a VA for Chemically Bonded but she randomly ghosted the holy fuck out the dude making it and never sent in her any of her recordings after getting hired. So he replaced her with Nyanners.

>>39405405
Finally someone with common sense. It's well known that she's a good christian girl so she would never abort the baby we made

>>39406055
that seems like a thing gura would do honestly

>>39401843
It was pretty well understood at the time of her graduation that she was making more money from her artist side-gigs than she was from Holo and wanted to focus on that, health and everything else was secondary. And while I thought she was an incredibly competent streamer, I also got the sense that it was a bit phoned in like she didn't really care for it. I also feel like she was worried about stepping on Inas toes if she started doing art streams, or was otherwise being protectionist of her art. I can also understand not being well suited to dealing with the stress that you're literally one unexpected screen-pop, verbal slip or technical mishap away from getting fired at all times. Also, probably dealing with constantly getting shit on by managers and fans because her numbers were lagging so far behind everyone else. Finally, also always having to deal with so much stupid crap for game permissions, and being associated with Hololive in particular literally locking her out of several games she wanted to play.

There were a lot of reasons for her to quit that had nothing to do with her health, and she never actually brought it up when she was quitting, that was purely speculation on the fans part because most back injuries are permanent.

>>39400965
Sana, you’re not her cousin just because you both worked for the same company.

>>39400086
She drank a looooooot. She claimed in her once a year shitpost videos that her being drunk was just a "haha funny joke not real!" but if you watched her streams she was basically hammered 24/7. Theres a reason early into debut in Hololive that she made a comment along the lines of hating her old life and being incredibly blessed with her new one. She was not in a good place as HER.

>>39405711
The vaxx nanomachines are reconfiguring her gray matter to receive 5G but running into a snag because she's brainless.

>>39400627
>She even went ahead to shit on sanalites too
Anon they were spamming every one of her tweets with shit like "Sanaaaaaa I hope you feel better! I miss you!" and other retarded cringe shit. Every one of her roommate's tweets was flooded with this shit. It was actively damaging to her career as an artist. No shit she got annoyed.

>>39394480
Continue?

>>39397376
H-Hi!

>>39406564
how do twitter replies have literally any effect on fucking anything

>Lying as if she hasn't been on break for the past year
>Lying as if she has ever used Twitter to connect with fans
How the fuck can you subhuman creatures just roll with this

>>39406832
They do if you let them. Apparently most social media users let it get to them

>>39406832
>is an artist for chinese gacha games
>likes said chinese gacha games
>China fucking hates Cover/Hololive
>they see she worked for Cover
>they immediately fire her/blanket ban her from everything
>now shes fucked and can't play the games she likes
Gee I wonder anon?

>>39399476
>I feel bad for Kiara having to carry the branch on her back

>>39406055
>Gets hired to be the token loli character
>Is so dysfunctional she ends up ghosting the project
>Immediately replaced with the other big well known token loli
Its pretty hilarious if you think about it

>>39406891
Because, rabbit poster, it doesnt actually matter that much at all. She's just a streamer pretending to be a shark. That's all. It's not fucking Jesus or some shit

>>39407031
and yet that didnt happen because twitter shit doesnt matter

>>39397502
fatigue from doing fucking what, playing video games? She has your money now she is ditching.

>>39400950
Alcoholism rehab takes a lifetime, anon. There's no cure to addiction.

>>39407169
And yet, vtuber fans will give Gura their life savings every time she comes back.

>>39407186
It didn't happen because she immediately put a stop to it the second it became a problem. She put the retarded sanalites where they belonged and basically stopped using twitter entirely. She tried streaming once and her stream was 99% Sanalites so she's basically not streamed since.

>>39407357
Can't help the mental people

>>39407357
I mean when you look at the rest of EN it’s not like there are many others worth it

>>39407278
Gura is known for randomly ghosting shit and disappearing. She's done it in the past. She gets super fucked up and depressed and basically drops off the planet for months.

>>39407502
>oh no i have to play video games and act like a little girl so people give me all their paycheck i am so depressed
absolute state of vt*bers and their bootlickers

>>39407615
You never watched her old streams and thats clear but since you are a retarded newfag ill key you in. She spent 99% of her old streams fucked up on alcohol and weed. She would sometimes just drink and say nothing while silently playing shit. Even when she streamed with her "friend" group she was quiet and miserable. Shes not exactly mentally stable or sound.

>>39403912
Then dedicate the rest of your foreseeable, pathetic life in getting the fuck out of there. Stop wasting your time watching fake anime girls and coming /here/, dumbass

>>39405311
>I respect Kiara for the hustle but I can’t do her voice.
I don't think her voice is too bad but she streams at times I can't ever catch.

>>39407811
stay poor vgoober i didn't read anything past your first sentence, i watched all the og en debut streams and never watched them again. i'm only on this board because i accidently clicked on /vt/ instead of /wsg/

>>39407811
This guy so desperately wants his rrat to be true LMAO

>>39403036
Anyone who watched her before knows that you monumental retard. If anyone is going off what people say it's retards like you who dont realize before hololive she was cripplingly depressed and used alcohol and substances to cope. Theres a reason she credits hololive with saving her life it's because she was a 4chan burnout druggie before she got her golden ticket.

>>39394480
what a pathetic bunch of streamers

>>39408051
go ask her general then retarded nigger

>>39408051
Its not a rrat you autistic fuck its facts. She was actively drunk during most of her old streams. Her putting little disclaimers on some of her videos saying "teehee its a joke <3" doesn't erase countless streams.

>>39408072
She actively burst into tears a couple months into her debut stating how much she hated her previous life and how miserable she was. I have no idea how people just act like that didn't happen on stream.

>>39407502
Sounds like she might be bipolar, a serious depressive phase can leave you just not giving a fuck about anything for months and you can have a decent amount of time where things are pretty normal or only hypomanic in between which would explain how she was so functional for the first year or two.

>>39408117
>>39408169
>Oh no she's falling back to her old ways...I can save her UwU
You are pathetic

>>39400358
Oh fuck off with your fantasy bullshit.

>>39394480
Oh nyoooo~

>>39401048

Alright, thanks.

You've Culled yourself out of the "Impregnation" field, More for Me less for you works out

>>39408356
>>39408169
>>39408117
Just so you know exactly what I mean. You don't care whether she's actually healthy or not. You're attached to this rrat because you want to pat yourself on the back for 'saving' her from her past life because you supported her in hololive. People like you are so easy to spot and read.
>I'm so virtuous, I helped the shark girl stop drinking even though she was never a drunk. Gosh I'm such a good person!

>>39409159

>>39409445
If you can't understand English fuck off

>>39409159
That's retarded even for this board...

>>39407357
Ayame Syndrome

>>39394480
Prego

>>39403036
Holy newfag. She was well known here back in the day. Her problems has always been understood. It's how she can end up passing out in VR headsets or like in clip related.

https://youtu.be/CbKQDhYreKg

>>39409643
Sure. It's definitely not virtue signaling and a savior complex. That's not why people cling to the 'gura was a drunk' rrat. Definitely not.

>>39397219
Pregante

>>39407477
Anyone who actually streams and doesn't treat their fans like they don't exist is more worth it.

>>39401515

Rumor has it that Ina is more of a Whore then She lets on (which is 80% of Females, Age notwithstanding)


I knew to trust that funny feeling I had back last December

>>39403915
new rrat: upper management found out about uncle nowa getting suspended for telling middle management why they suck, and retroactively made him the "loud american" of holostarsen

>>39398883
>>39401048
There really isn't anything to even do. I spent a lot of time going through those event sites recently to see if there was anything going on near me and there is really nothing going on.

If you're interested in going "outside" to try and meet girls it's also just pointless, because every single event out there is sex segregated.

Rock climbing? "Rock climbing (girls only)"
Hiking? "Hiking for girlfriends"
Cooking classes? "Cooking Classes Girls Night"

If you want to join some co-ed event they are all full of actual geriatrics.
>inb4 start your own event
Yeah, no.

>>39404652
Good job bro

>>39410141
>taking a tumblr post as truth

>>39409888
Are you really this insecure about being a newfag?

>>39410671
Your words mean nothing to me, virtue signaler

>>39401520
I'm so fucking sick of you people coming up with these retarded reasons every time.

>Oh, Gura is just burnt out guys she can't stream
She gets burnt out on streaming every week? Her average of 4 streams a month is burning her out? For years?
>It's just seasonal depression guys, winter is crazy
>It's spring and she can finally get outside so she's taking time off
>It's summer she just wants to enjoy the outdoors while she can
Fucking kill yourself, stop being a pushover cuck

>>39410601
>not knowing that calling a post a "rrat" is the opposite of taking it as true

>Pulling the extremely sick excuse twice in one year.
Cover needs a better script to defend the laziness of their EN talents.
The true black bill is someone like Lui calling listeners ATM's, if Laplus had done it nobody have cared, but no, it was Lui, one of the most proffesional Holo's in the company.
Someone like her letting the mask slip, can you imagine what the rest must think?

But it don't matter, you'll keep supporting them till the ends of the earth.

>>39407972
Funny enough she's streaming right now and here you are fucking around on 4chan instead of watching.

>>39409888
how can one virtue-signal on an anonymous board?

>>39400973
>homostars debut
>They actually stream when they aren't suspended for calling the managers a bunch of niggers.

>>39394480
>never once actually cleaned the mold out of her room
I'm not surprised. At all.

>>39410042
On her first couple of days she leaned into the degeneracy hard. Then it immediately dried up. Not sure what to make of that.

>pegnant with a babby
>she doesn't know who the father is
sasuga women

>>39413729
Yeah, mine.

I need to be in top physical form for the stressful and incredibly demanding task of playing a video game and making small talk

>>39408283
>I have no idea how people just act like that didn't happen on stream.
Simple: they think she was playing it up and acting a character for the camera.

>>39409159
Like I and others have said. You never watched her old streams. You are just going off a fucking meme disclaimer of her trying to pass off her actual issues as a funny haha joke.

>>39414074
>All vtubers are just actors playing characters!
>Its all kayfabe xDDDDD
>They don't even use their real voices!
God I fucking despise Gigguk so much for making that disgustingly retarded video claiming vtubers were wrestlers. He literally broke the brains of the entire western audience.

>>39414295
This anon fucks and he isn't wrong.
Gigguk should be buried alive.

>>39407113
>ghosts into hololive
>dabs on nyiggers
>at least nyiggers isn't' lilypichu (her enemy and rival)

>>39414295
They literally do change their voices for the camera though. Kiara sounds totally different when she's speaking casually. Actually, pitching her voice up for 3+ hours for a livestream sounds hard. All the JP vtubers are also 100% playacting as characters.

>>39414295
>They don't even use their real voices!
while I do agree Gigguk should be fucking skinned alive like the ironic weeb faggot he is, that part isn't entirely untrue, at least for HoloJP. JP girls DO have moments where the real voice slips but yea

>>39414887
>>39414916
>le epic "look guuuyzzz they sounded different this one time they just woke up after being sick and sneezing!" comment
God I hate all of you faggots so much. Casual fucking reminder to anyone with any semblance of a brain. Humans don't have one single consistent tone/voice they talk in. Human voices actually fall within a certain gradient/range and within that entire section is that person's natural voice. All streamers do is talk more excitedly and energetic than they usually would. This is known as streamer voice. They all do this because as it turns out. Humans are usually pretty fucking monotone or bland when they are at their home or relaxing and thats incredibly boring to listen to (Kronii). People's voices change all the time depending on a number of things ranging from who they're talking to, what they're doing, and where they are at. They aren't "faking their voices" or "playing characters" they are just talking within their natural range. Because as it also turns out, its incredibly hard to continuously talk outside your natural range for more than like 30 minutes. Basically you're both faggots and should consider suicide.

>>39414887
>>39414916
I can count on one hand the number of Hololive members who actually fake their voice or play a character.

After Gura, who is currently hitting rock bottom, who is the 2nd least mentally stable holo?

she’s evidently unhealthy, but she’s also clearly checked out with streaming

>>39415314
You are literally mentally ill if you think the jp girls sound the way they do on stream when they are off stream. Same goes for like 40% of EN. If you acttually believe Fubuki talks like that in real life or Luna talks like that in real life you need to off yourself immediately.

>>39415415
you better be a fucking freak with more fingers on one hand than the average person, lest you don't know what the fuck you're talking about

>>39415415
>EOP fag think JP voice acting = just normal JP speaking
your a colossal retard if you think the HoloJP girls mostly use there real voice.

>>39408283
Thread reader newfags that's how. People don't realize she was going fucking nowhere before Hololive for the same behavior she shows in Hololive.

>>39414295
It's actually true for some vtubers though. The most famous example being Kizuna AI.

>>39415441
You have a couple of insane mentally unwell holos to choose from anon!
>Polka
clinically depressed overweight hikki who cries and begs her chat to never leave her on her member streams. She also once went to get up and accidentally knocked over something and a cascade of like 80 empty cans and food trays collapsed onto the floor
>Matsuri
Someone has the Matsuri greentext somewhere but I aint posting it. That list grows by the week
>Laplus
For obvious reasons
>Aqua
If you count sheer crippling unironic autism to the point she barely functions in society as being mentally unstable
>Fauna
She's as menhera as Shondo is she just hides her power level in Hololive very well. It'll slip one of these days though and it'll be quite the sight

>>39415646
>Voice acting
>Hololive streamers
Damn who knew all of HoloJP was comprised of actual professional grade voice actors! Wild! I guess all JP girls are naturally just gifted VAs. Crazy.

>>39415902
Fauna is actually doing fine. Mumei is the crazy one.

>>39415902
>Fauna
don't think so kfp anon, if her dead cat of many years didn't waver her emotionally when she was back from the break, I don't think anything will really. put some respect on that girls professionalism.

>>39415621
Their "actual" voices are like slightly deeper and less energetic than their streamer voices anon. That's it. They aren't "Faking their voices" they are just talking higher up in their natural range. Theres a few that do do fake voices mind you, but its not all of JP and its not even half of JP. Its like 10%.

>>39415977
>just ignore the projects, many including games/manga/commercials, where the JP girls VOICE ACTED for them.
go be a retard somewhere else, your embarrassing yourself EOP-chama

>>39416051
>>39416103
You guys lack the knowledge. Fauna in her past life hated parasocial shit so much she actually tried killing her career over it while also coming off as an unhinged stalker.

>>39416108
hahahahah look at the autist who actually believes people have anime voices in real life

>>39416246
>bro, how she was then...she must be that way still now! surely!
lol

>>39416241

>>39416241
Yes Subaru and a handful of others wow. That must mean they are all actual professional grade VAs! They totally were hired for those projects because of that and not because of Hololive's popularity! They'd have all totally been full time anime VAs had they not joined Cover!

>>39416108
>they're not faking their voices
>explains how they're faking their voices
lol
lmao even

>>39416246
That's, like, the opposite of being unhinged. That's being such a goody two shoes normalfag that you'd rather be unemployed than exploit the weak. That's the opposite of being a lunatic.

>>39415902
You forgot
>Kiara
Made sock puppets of her genmates because they all hate her.

>>39415977
nta but you can search pretty much any jp's name + 'natural voice' and find clips of chat asking if they'll speak in their real voice for a bit. Regardless of whether you think talking in a cutesy anime voice makes someone a pro VA or not, you cannot honestly believe Koyori, Lamy, Kanata etc are using their natural voices and not hamming it up. Only a few are using voices close to their natural pitch,

>>39416372
Remind me again why they all hate her

>>39416241
>>39416291
>>39416359
Gigguk fags should be shot on sight.

>>39416366
>hates parasocial shit so much she mentioned her bf every other second unprompted to the point her viewers started getting annoyed
>do it so much and so often in fact her viewers start questioning if its a fetish for her
>its so much that they end up arriving at them not even existing and the person in the background being her cousin
Going off old debut shit but when Fauna debuted several old fans of her Past life came into the sticky thread warning everyone she was insane.

>>39399259
You are wrong, he went back to gura, it should be something more like:
>t. J'Wiz
Or maybe something like:
>Calliberjoe

>>39416391
90% of those "natural voice" clips are literally them like just waking up or them being sick.

>>39416663
And now she's an ASMR streamer. Life is funny.

>>39416427
I wish there was a green text with all that shit Kiara has done. Including her interactions with JP such as Subaru and Shion. There is a reason why they all don't stream with her besides HoloTalk. I mean she is fluent in Japanese, why isn't she besties with any of the JP girls. Only Nene tolerates her because Nene is too nice to tell her to fuck off.

>>39417132
It was a fad to shit on the parasocial. When they realized the paras stay and the bandwagoners flee, well, it wasn't hard to realize the principle was hollow.

>>39417132
Shes always been an ASMR streamer. She used to do romantic RP ASMR streams and shit. Its why her audience was so confused by it in the first place.

>>39416359
The term "fake voice" in this context is so braindead
It's still their actual voices whether or not they change the register, timbre, brightness/darkness etc
When I think of a fake voice, I think of someone using a voice changer to reach a voice they are physically incapable of reaching naturally

>>39417257
>It's totally their real voices if they're not using their real voices.
The connotative definition of words no longer holds meaning. You heard it here first, you no longer need to recognize reality in a debate.

>>39417375
If a person can comfortably and naturally speak in a voice for hours and hours with no issue, its their natural voice. Them talking louder or more excitedly than usual, or even pitching their voice up, doesn't mean they are faking their voice. People naturally change their tone/pitch of their voice all the time IRL depending on who they are talking to.

>>39401048
buy a mountain bike
every day's a good day when you're on a mountain bike

>>39417375
You need to define what a real voice is first
Or at least give an example of someone's so-called "real voice" and "fake voice"
Also fuck your connotative definitions, you're obviously implying a sense of inauthenticity about a person by calling someone's voice "fake"

>>39417504
>If a person can comfortably and naturally speak in a voice for hours and hours with no issue, its their natural voice.
Do you wake up in the morning and ask yourself, "How can I be the most wrong possible today?"
I mean, do you think any VA in the Western cartoon profession is using their "natural" voice despite hours of work? I'm getting second-hand embarrassment for you reading this. Just stop posting man.

>>39417580
>Also fuck your connotative definitions
Idiots have now official jumped the shark.
You know what "jumped the shark" means because of its connotation, btw.

>>39417614
VAs don't spend hours and hours talking in their character voice you autistic faggot. They do practice and record in the booth but that total time spent doing that voice isn't even remotely comparable to the amount of time vtubers spend talking/streaming in their supposed "fake" voice.

>>39417580
Don't bother arguing. The entire point of trying to weasel around claiming they fake their voice is to claim they are all fake whores. Thats it thats the reason. Ignore the nijifag and move on

>>39417705
They're both fake, dipshit.

>>39417772
I don't even hate Hololive, though. I just don't fucking dive into obvious contradictions to "le own the haters."

>>39417141
>I mean she is fluent in Japanese, why isn't she besties with any of the JP girls
I always thought it was because of timezone differences

>>39417839
Don't you have a Enna thread to be running damage control in nijifag?

>>39417896
>fuck how language works!
Somehow, you're making Nijifaggots look LESS unhinged by comparison. Great job, schizo.

>>39417375
>>It's totally their real voices if they're not using their real voices.
nigga, what in the fuck do you even mean by real voice in the first place? the pitch and range of a voice can fluctuate due to a lot of different factors, it isn't just monotone all the fucking time. obviously their voices are going to be different if they are streaming, it doesn't mean the voices are "fake", forced, or strained
>debate
you're just brute forcing through the "debate (lol) as if everyone is supposed to just agree with the way you define things. you're acting like the notion of a "fake voice" is just an accepted consensus

Gura did sound like she was medicated in those last streams, the slow stilted speech is pretty common for patients on heavy depression meds.

>>39418529
Playing dumb isn't a defense.
I hope you're playing, anyway.

>>39419086
you're really not as smart as you think you are

>>39407278
Chronic fatigue hits even if you sat on your arse all day. Its extremely shit.

Gura has the itis.

>>39419053
She obviously has mental issues.
>B-but maybe she should try to smile and be happy, it's easy. Kiara can stream despite being sick!
Literal state of /vt/, faggots cancelling their membership when their so-called oshi is suffering.

>Kiara anti posting
>Enna posting
>Niji boogeyman
>Fauna dox posting
>Whatever the fuck this real voice argument is
This thread wasnt that good to begin but my god did it go down the shitter near the end.

>>39419053
>Gura did sound like she was medicated in those last streams
I remember there were quite a few anons remarking in the /hlgg/ threads of those latest streams on how she sounded kinda drunk and slurring her words. I definitely noticed as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEyYtc7Bzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHbiwZbmkuQ

>>39402683
meanwhile your popular vtuber goes radio silent for weeks and now we're in this situation because of it.

>>39401048
>>39398883
>be me
>gets told to touch grass
>alright fine fuck it
>but wait
>tfw cant because i got a 9 hour job with shifting schedule
>which means my sleep is all fucked up and i get headaches
>"oh you wanna rest on this day? too bad i just changed your schedule because i wanna spend my day off on THAT day"
>work in IT and i have to deal with people who cant find the windows key on a keyboard
>hour commute home, tired and sleep half the day
>wake up only to eat and go to work again
>remaining time left for myself is spent either buying groceries or doing house chores
>doing that while listening on any interesting shit youtube shows me
>go to work, rinse repeat.
there's nothing great for me outside, i'd prefer to pick a hobby maybe learn to play an instrument. but i know ill only do that on weekends which im sure ill spend sleeping to catch up on sleep. i wanna get rich and fuck off to a nice house near a lake with my oshi.

>>39411123
>The true black bill is someone like Lui calling listeners ATM's,
Don't believe you

>>39396354
kek this post makes holobronies seethe so hard that they pop a blood vessel