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*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*>https://playboard.co/en/>http://ikioi-ranking.com/>https://vrabi.net/>https://www.vstats.jp>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-rankingHololive sites>https://holo.poi.cat/>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html>https://trackholo.live/en/Nijisanji sites>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly>https://twitter.com/2434rankings>https://twitter.com/2434subscriberTwitch>https://sullygnome.com/>https://twitchtracker.com/>https://stats.roki.sh/Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp
For a company who want to sell idols Hololive have far too few member who care about musics
>>39388940
>>39388874? They don't need saving. They are unironically better council.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXDZM_UQSA>open call-inAren't like Ame, Mori, IRyS, and Bae the only ones available? And IRyS and Bae will be asleep.
Vox was apparently roasting the shit out of Hex for copying him.
> No reminder of Enna's virginityGuys, I think she lost it
>>39389013ame mentioned she'd be in two streams today so this is probably oneand I doubt Kiara intends to go long
>>39389013There's a non 0 chance that Fauna is available.
>>39388909Kys lineschizo
>>39389015>>39389024didn't ask sisters
>>39388965lollmao
>>39389015Hex is the better Vox. He can even speak Chinese
>>39389071we agreed on the fauna line a long time ago.
>>39389072> BUT IF YOU COMBINE THEM
Isn't it funny that by all public metrics, Mori is doing badly, but by all the non-verifiable, internal metrics she is doing exceptional?
https://twitter.com/walaber/status/1605592165177888770Kaela make another random indie game developer happy
Update for the nijiEN meet and greet slotsOld stocks >>39257999Iniital stocks for the meet and greets for the girls are 15 per slot based on Elira's initial stock count for a total of 90 slots per talent amounting to $4.500 dollars if they sell out.Alban has more slots and if anybody wants to get the initial stocks for the boys the console command should be and the drop should be in three hours>JSON.parse(document.getElementsByClassName("product-variants")[0].getAttribute("data-variants")).map((x) =>{console.log( `${x.attributes.Time} - ${x.qtyInStock}`)})Sold out:Pomu, Enna, Millie, Elira, AlbanAlban - Sold out12:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)12:55PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)1:20PM (1:10PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)1:45PM (1:35PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)3:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)3:25PM (3:15PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)3:40PM (3:30PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)4:00PM (3:45PM Lineup) - 0 (Sold ?)Nina12:00PM (11:45AM Lineup) - 012:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 61:00PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 02:00PM (1:45PM Lineup) - 02:30PM (2:15PM Lineup) - 8 (Sold 1)3:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 1Reimu - No new slots sold since the last two updates12:00PM (11:45AM Lineup) - 712:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 111:00PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 32:00PM (1:45PM Lineup) - 62:30PM (2:15PM Lineup) - 83:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 7Finana12:00PM (11:45AM Lineup) - 4 (Sold 1)12:30PM (12:15PM Lineup) - 51:00PM (12:45PM Lineup) - 02:00PM (1:45PM Lineup) - 02:30PM (2:15PM Lineup) - 03:00PM (2:45PM Lineup) - 0
>>39389124There are literal images of her shit selling out in stores and actual people saying they went to a certain place for it to be sold out so it's not completely unverifiable
>>39389013
>>39389109>public metricsYou mean Youtube's magic numbers? Are you ignoring Spotify which can be verified?
>>39389013>No 凸 in the titlesub 10k
>>39389124>but by all the non-verifiable, internal metrics she is doing exceptional?Just means that everyone involved had really, really low expectations.
>>39389124Unless you're suggesting the physical locations selling out is staged, theres that at least.
>>39389178/#/ only recognizes youtube numbers, sorry.
>>39389013Isn't the more unsociable you are the more buff you receive from this game? Let's see how Kiara do with it
Is this the thread which originated the Enna hate circlejerk?
>>39389214So like everything merchandise related that involves HoloEN?
>>39389238I unironically do not even know who is Enna or what's her usual number
>>39389238That's /nijien/
my cute wife
>>39389238Nope. That's Kyo' tweet
>>39389238aloufriend...
>>39389238Obviously, this thread is the puppetmaster of everything on /vt/
>>39389072Nijibros, explain this.
>>39389238>Is this the thread which originated the Enna hate circlejerk?NijiEN's worst enemies are their own fanbases.
>>39389277>number Ask Kyo, maybe he'll let you join his blacked orgy
>>39389072Girls > boys????
>>39389124better make a catalog to bait people
>>39389192Jesas that's sad
Update on omocat holomeet merch. It seems like they are not stopping sales when the stock reaches zero or negative as you can still order those on site.If you want to verify the data you can use https://shopify.dev/api/ajax/reference/productTotal Sales: $212,154.00
https://twitter.com/hololivepro_EN/status/1605610089515450368uhhhhhhhhh>[Notice 1/2]Thank you, everyone, for always supporting our talents.hololive English member Gawr Gura (@gawrgura) will be taking a break from streaming for a period of time due to health reasons.
>>39389072How does Iluna feel I wonder? Lolisex got too cocky
Fat RRAT but I 100% blame Mori for everything wrong regarding HoloEN and especially the Tempiss shitshow, think about it:>Mori signs the UMG contract a few months before Tempiss debuted>her music is still going strong and the UMG contract is a huge deal, management will now listen to her regarding the direction of HoloEN>as a Twitch and Vshojo lover her idea is obviously to turn HoloEN into budget Vshojo, which is why they hired a bunch of "brotubers" and Twitch cocksuckers like Magni>Gura is obviously of the opposite idea and is pissed they chose to listen to Mori over her>the months before Tempiss is also when the Gura ghosting started and the cracks between Myth members was more apparent>most of the girls are fine with it and don't care, Bae and Ame are 100% on board with this shit>Tempiss debuts and they start spamming collabs with the girls, turns out it was a huge fucking blunder and Mori is on a fucking freefall so listening to her was retarded
>>39389442Cells at Work: BLACK happening right now inside Gura's body
>>39389192hololive doesn't need EN3 they said..
>>39389442Now IRyS can be the top EN vtuber
>>39389238We are so powerful that we made Enna cuck her fans
>>39389442it's fucking over
>>39389425>>393894752 people at that hour sounds pretty good desu.
>>39389400One is a collab, another is marika with viewer participation. Both males are doing SC reading. Context woooo
>>39389442The light has gone out of my life
>>39389442so, everything will be the same as always?
>>39389442oh nyo
>>39389442uh oh!
>>39389442Sure
>>39389238We don't hate her. We like her cause she caused really funny drama
>>39389442Cat hort??? Tummy hort??? What hort now????
>>39389442Man, this fucking sucks.
>>39389442>FAUNA #1 EN>FAUNA #1 EN>FAUNA #1 EN>FAUNA #1 EN>FAUNA #1 EN
>>39389579She's mentioned multiple times she's had health issues, but people kept calling it bullshit. Well here you fucking go.
>>39389442Just in time for Ina to come back and become the top EN vtuber.
>>39389442Welp. Get well soon
>>39389442Lmao
>>39389442Didn't she say that she was going to update her fans about that soon™
At least it's not graduation. But damn I hope this doesn't mean she will literally become EN Aqua
>>39389442Its fine, Ina is back soon. She will get gura numbers on her first few streams back.Hopefully gura is back soon. Ina alone can't hold the fort and Fauna/IRyS even at their peaks are pretty pathetic numbers wise.
>>39389442So nothing change?
>>39389615Yeah I also have the same disease as Gawr Gura named "I am sick of all of you"-itis.
>>39389712Aqua is her oshi for a reason
>>39389615Yeah, I think she said she got some bad news health-wise a while back. She probably tried to get a 2nd opinion and it just confirmed the original prognosis.
What about her earlier-than-the-other-Myth-Japan-trip?
>Laplus gone (almost for good)>Gwelu yab>Yugo termination>Gura infinite hiatus Togashi styleGrimchads ww@?
>break from streaming>still using twitterSo absolutely nothing changed
>>39389442OH NO NO NO JANUARY IS NIJIEN MONTH AGAIN!
>>39389442It's our fault for doomposting Ina, now Gura is the one who's dying
>>39389442Jesus Christ did she choke on that burger?
>>39389615It probably severe enough that Holo Twitter has to tweet it
>>39389339I thought that we were elite soldiers of hlg
>>39389844fauna and ina will be back and nijiEN doesn't have any debuts or celebrations to spam.
>>39389442Fauna and Irys can now be EN#1 and EN#2 before Ina comes back. Irys can be EN#1 for a week. Rejoice saplings and irystocrats!
Regardless of whether you take the notice at face value or whether you are chasing the biggest rrats, how bad is this announcement regarding Gura for the health of the EN community/fanbase? Will an extended absence with no clear timeline enhance the decay in those who have stuck things through so far?
Numberchads, I seek your wisdom once again. In light of the current events I ask you the same question as back then.When will the G R I M days for EN ever end?
>>39389811>TogashiMiura style permanent hiatus when?
>>39389889>Irys can be EN#1 for a week.In what fucking world nigga
>>39389892One thing is clear, holoEN cannot rely on Gura for numbers.
>>39389915When they disband EN
>>39389844BELIEVE IN EN3 ANON!
>>39389888>ina will be backdyrbi?
>>39389442This is karma for shitposting about Enna and Gwelu, Holofags
>>39389888>fauna
>>39389933She's inclining
Could really fucking use EN3 right about now, you stupid shit EN management.
>>39389827Use Twitter to connect with fan. Damm shame, it's the second Christmas she misses
don't think these are #2 EN numbers, irystocrats.
Don't worry Gura, IRyS will carry your mantle while you are away.
>>39389933It's just Kiara, Bae, Irys and Mori at the moment. She's #1
>>39389933In a world where Gura, Fauna and Ina don't stream. In other words, this one.Heck, who among HoloEN are even streaming? Bael, Ame and Mori?
>>39389980Reclining*Ftfy.
>January-February drought
>>39389958Tempiss is 3view now
>>39390007Jesas... that MV was so bad it killed her numbers
Ever since I joined the grimgang, I risk getting obesity because every day I am eating too much good stuff.
>>39390007this isn't any better
>>39390159It actually looks quite a bit better
>>39389915EN3
Forget Ina/Fauna/IRyS. Who's there to stop Mysta when he starts numberfagging?
>>39390159Funny how she only hits 8k+ when there's no overlap. She should stop being a pussy and stream in NA prime so we can see her real numbers.
>>39389963>livers setting themselves on fire = karma???. Nijiniggers truly are the scum of the earth.
NIJI "CRIPPLE TALLY" FAGS ARE WINNING
>>39390007Show me who else are having higher than 7k medians and streaming right now?
oh boy
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECHUMKEKSWHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED???
>>39390261Irys doesnt even have a 7k median anymore. You know who does? The actual number 2, Fauna.
>>39390240IRyS only hit 6.4k on her first Peronsa stream even after receiving all the funnels
>>39390240>she should leave her timeslot where her fans are expecting her??????????
Fauna will save us right bros?
>>39390266Quick, adopt more kittens that you have no clue how to raise and collabs more with Vesper now!
>>39389844Did you forget about Kiara planning to make JPs do offcollabs on her channel in January?
>>39390240She was literally overlapped by Mori karaoke and held her 8k on Skyrim Part 16. Now move goalposts and say it doesn't count.
>>39390326Is that not what Bae and IRyS have been doing lately? Fauna holed up in her little slot when IRyS isn't afraid to branch out.
>>39390014Well, shitposting aside, in all seriousness: now that it's confirmed that Gura won't be coming back for a while, do you think chumbuds will start watching other EN members (i.e: SNOT if available) or will they just disappear?
Just watch JP
was this the surprise kiara was talking about? i didn't think she would wish death on gura using the advent calendar.
>when ina comes back she will be #1 ENThat's wild...
>>39389442I guess living like a slob and eating like you're in a concentration camp eventually catches up to you. Also, this happening makes the decision to push Tempus last year instead of EN3 look even stupider. We've already seen what Gura being gone does to EN numbers, and it can only get more grim from here.
>>39390356Yeah meanwhile IRyS needed multiple funnels just to get above 6k.
>>39390398>Is that not what Bae and IRyS have been doing lately?And they're fucking retarded for doing it.
>>39390401>do you think chumbuds will start watching other EN membersThe second funniest shit I've read today
>>39389442fuck this shit...can ina and fauna carry holoEN the next months?
Do you think Hololive management is now regretting they don't have EN3 ready?
>>39390423Assuming she comes back to same audience. Who knows if some takos didn't abandon her in meantime.
>>39390484>can ina and fauna carry holoEN the next months?depends, do they overlap?
>>39390423>when ina comes backThe vessel of cthulu has been slained.
>>39390509Even if some left the comeback buff should still be enough to make up for it for a few weeks
This is where the permanent damage ACCELERATES, especially if she's going to be gone for a few months or more
>>39390423Don't jinx it you fag
>>39390485We don't need EN3, you can watch Tempus or Nijisanji.
>>39390509They like her as an artist, they don't give a shit about her as a streamer. They'll still be there.
So that means that Ame is now the only EN in the Mario Kart tournament?
>>39390485No, they are recruiting EN4 (Stars)
>>39390485Nah, they are happy, don't you see them announcing auditions for StarsEN2 and redditfags recommending nijiEN?
>>39390485No. They will shill Tempus even harder.
>>39390588Two open slots, maybe now Kanata can join.
>>39390533they're definitely overlapping unless fauna moves to gura's slityou also have to consider that most takos are now saplings I don't know the proportion of those that would go back to their dying oshi
>IRyStocrats trying to claim their oshi is #1 ENThere's no comparison faggots. Fauna is #1. IRyS is #2 along with reclining shit owl.
>>39390484Fauna has basically been carrying EN through most of December, and it hasn't been enough to beat the Niji buffs.
>>39390314She does, thoughhttps://vrabi.net/channel/UC8rcEBzJSleTkf_-agPM20gNumbers in Dec: 12,271 -> 9,071 -> 7,475 -> 7,372 -> 7,008 -> 6,676 -> 6,466 -> 3,477 -> 3,092 Her median is exactly 7,008 right now.She has 3 buffed contents lined up on her channel (CHADcast, karaoke, fans sweaters reviews + a drawing stream that might be at least neutral) , so her median should rise afterwards.
What happened to tally anon?
>>39390401Genuinely I think we're about to witness the most significant shrinkage in the overall fanbase since Coco grad or Sana grad. Close to half of Gura's viewers are dedicated solely to her and her alone. Most will probably stick around but even a sizeable minority calling quits over this would see thousands departing the rabbit hole.
Whenever IRyS isn't streaming I just watch JP indies. And I don't see Chumbuds not following that same mindset
>>39390635Fauna playing regular shit and part 5 of Pokemon isn't carrying shit. Unless she plans on doing nothing but buff shit in January there's nothing she can do. She can't beat Nijitourists if they do nothing but buff shit like handcams
>>39390509Ina was already reclining but her recline still puts her on top, it will just be a rather weak #1 spot.
>>39390485Nah, you can always watch indies :^)
I hate this
>>39390588Is she going to do the "lol I'm not even going to try in the slightest" shit again?
>>39390467Well, I meant maybe they were saving themselves while hoping that Gura might suddenly come back one day before. Now it's confirmed that she won't (at least for a month or so), maybe things can change. I have faith in people's good side
>>39389238Yes. whatcha gonna do bout it faggot ? you gonna cry? piss and cum?
Luxiem won.
>>39389442>we still don't need EN3
>>39390717kekwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwk
>>39389606You mean Mysta
>>39390628>takos are now saplingsI'm 100% sure thats not true. They have completely different personalities and are known for relatively loyal fanbases. What they do share are the PST afternoon tourist.>>39390717Fauna is planning to play stuff like Bioshock 2 and SA2. No way that holds up.
>>39390401I'm one foot in being a casual in this hobby while waiting for her. Might watch Fauna and Mumei, some JP. Man i remember the time when i couldn't even watch JP cuz there's other EN to catch up, now they're just unwatchable.
>>39390628>most takos are now saplingssource?
>>39390678https://twitter.com/tally_anon/status/1605610089515450368Currently hospitalized
>>39390633Imagine thinking the green whore that can't even get 50k for her new outfit can compete with IRyS 2.0 with 90k+ on her redesign.
>>39390688Can we somehow gauge how long it takes in a hiatus until part of the fanbase moves on to something else?
>>39389442I hope she's still performing at holofes.
>>39390588is she even going to stream the tournament?
>>39390807don't look at mysta's numbers after the return/anniversary buffs wear off.
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048
>39390866You faggots better not fall for this obvious bait
>>39390828my suisex lewds...
>>39390826>>39390815don't even try to deny this, fauna literally got +1.5k viewers on average after ina died
>>39389442Nah, unless they specify what kind of imaginary illness she has I'm not going to believe this bullshit. Just say you hate streaming you fucking bitch.
>>39390906Nigger she got 1.5k BEFORE Ina died.
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048Somehow I kinda feel assured that its not too serious, she just needs some rest.
>>39390898Check what time is it anon
>>39390914kys nijinog
>>39390893Manager's tweet
>>39390485No, they should've just gone KR and hire kpop idol rejects. They're all good dancers, and maybe singing too. T.Kpopfag
https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048hi guys, i have a update; had some chats with management and decided together that it would be best for me to take serious time for my health. thank you guys for understanding. i want to come back strong for you—>best for me to take serious time for my health. is code word for an illness which is a nothingburger.
>>39390914is he crying or laughing?
>serious timeit's fucking over
>>39389442so the only en streamer worth my view right now is haachama
>>39390906retard
>>39390893>;jesus mane-chan
>>39390893Manager tweeting from her account
We still have hope
>>39390985Yes
Guys, I still have so many old VODs to watch, my backlog is so long LOL! And there are so many fantastic NijiEN talents to watch as well. It's pretty offensive to say we needed EN3. Touch grass.
>>39390828Turns out the EN Tally anon was Gura shitposting under disguise all along...
>>39390893She's fucking dead
* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY IS IN *Here it goes>47,733: Towa (Hololive)>39,232: Miko (Hololive)>38,760: Fubuki (Hololive)>35,708: Koyori (Hololive)>30,307: Shu (Nijisanji)>26,762: Luca (Nijisanji)>26,428: Kanata (Hololive)>24,300: Subaru (Hololive)>23,203: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)>18,048: Mysta (Nijisanji)>14,561: Ange (Nijisanji)>14,550: VSPO (VSPO)>13,641: Mumei (Hololive)>13,627: Nui (Nijisanji)>13,331: GatchmanV (Indie)>13,207: Hayato (Nijisanji)>12,613: Mio (Hololive)>11,141: Salome (Nijisanji)>10,571: Sasaki (Nijisanji)>10,187: Met (774 Inc.)>10,019: Kanae (Nijisanji)Towa gold and another very stacked tally with 30k not making into the top 5
>>39390688If they're just dedicated to her then they're already not watching other people. It doesn't matter.
>>39391008oh that'd be so funny, imagine /ggg/'s reaction
>>39390828It's fucking OVER
>>39391058busy fucking anon?
LuxiemGODS status?
>>39390882I'm sure managment is still sticking to pre recording the side branches months ago so theres that at leastI'm more worried about whatever recordings were due in the japan trip that is almost certainly dead.
How do I cope
>>39390788Just watch Tempus.
>>39390893Lmao it's her manager tweeting
>Gura on indefinite breakNijiEN is now officially stronger than HoloEN in almost all relevant metrics
>>39390898>Watch me>>39390866Where's the other 84k on previous stream irystokek
>>39391058>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal18) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 195,196 - Niji MK Cup finals19) Pekora (Hololive) - 50,805 - Pokemon Violet w/Koyori20) Pekora (Hololive) - 62,091 - Fate/Grand Order gacha21) Towa (Hololive) - 47,733 - Startend off-collab>PER COMPANY14x: Hololive7x: Nijisanji>PER STREAMER6x: Pekora3x: Miko2x: Mio, Nijisanji, Toya1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Towa>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY234x: Hololive109x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.>PER STREAMER57x: Pekora24x: Miko19x: Kuzuha18x: Aqua17x: Nijisanji16x: Salome, Subaru10x: Marine8x: Mio, Toya7x: Suisei6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel, Towa4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta
>>39390984Ilness is code name for pregnancy
>>39390946Ina was already half dead
It's unironically over for holoEN's numbers. I knew not releasing EN3 sooner was going to bite them in the ass, but it's actually way worse than I thought.
>>39390984I don't like>serious timesounds like it will be a extended break
>>39390906Anon she always hit her peak once she reaches primetime. Its more about Gura not being there cause Ina ends up funneling to her anyway like her 11k spooky stream.
>>39391095it's over...
>>39391127>2022 SILVERS>PER COMPANY233x: Hololive106x: Nijisanji6x: VSPO5x: Indie4x: Neo Porte1x: PRISM Project>PER STREAMER53x: Pekora36x: Miko28x: Kuzuha22x: Marine15x: Subaru, Suisei11x: Gura, Salome10x: Nijisanji8x: Hololive7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa4x: Koyori, Lize3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Vox, Watame1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui>2022 BRONZES>PER COMPANY229x: Hololive107x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO1x: Holostars>PER STREAMER42x: Miko34x: Subaru32x: Pekora30x: Kuzuha17x: Marine12x: Salome10x: Gura, Nijisanji8x: Toya6x: Koyori5x: Fubuki, Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Korone, Mori, Shion3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaede, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction
>>39391135Do you really expect 2020 Ina back after this break? Do you fucking really? She's going to be infrequent for her own health, even if she is back.
>>39390984I laugh like a retard reading that tweet
>>39390788Just watch indies. Shylily streams 5 days a week :^)
>>39389475STOP WHINING. We might have lost the single biggest western Vtuber but at least we got the BROS. Vesper and his shitty 3k zatsu spam is worth ten times more than Gura and Ina combined. Watch some indies too.
>>39390569This is why ACCELERATES is a good strategy when it comes to EN market, too. Even if Mysta and Vox go on a menhera break tomorrow, NijiEN will still have more than enough members to hold the line.Now EN has dropped to just... Irys, Mori, Bael and Ame. Fauna in another week and Ina in 3. Grim...
>>39391058>Luxiem anniversary Where is Vox and Ike?
>>39389442The good 'ol streamer is dying excuse. Bravo Cover and checkmate reddit. There's no way you can guilt trip her to stream now
>>39391122nijisister pls. Most nijithots took vacations in november just to make numbers during december.
>>39391191the EN market is a fucking joke
>>39391220>vshojo-tier slut that does nothing but react contentno thanks. i'd rather quit watching vtubers for good.
>>39391127I thought niji had a chance this month
Who's going to leech from Gura's break the hardest?Who will be the one to leak her disease?
>>39390628>unless fauna moves to gura's slitH-hot...
>>39391096I wonder if that HoloEarth 3D Live thing was supposed to be AZKi and Gura which is why they only announced AZKi at first. Then when Gura's sickness got confirmed they switched to Mori.
>>39391191OH NO! QUICK! HANDCAM STREAM!
>>39390588what happened with kronii?
>>39391281beating them is so easy these days its not even funny anymore
>>39391173it really boggles the mind, they had to know their talents were unstable.
>>39391220Fuck off, falseflagger.
>>39391265>Luxiem>EN marketgood jork
>>39391250I mean, you could've seen this coming from a mile away.
>>39391205She said her issue was just mental and she recovered after having her parents took care of her, though
>>39391183Well the EN management needed a wakeup call, hopefully this will.Stop overworking talents you sick f*cks, release EN3 and lower the work load on the girls
>>39391426>She said her issue was just mentaNo she didn't.
>>39391364Cat diedIt's still two weeks away so she may return by then but who knows
>>39391280Get some 2-3 views JP chuubas,they always have morning stream and mostly have no voice changer so be prepared or pick well
>>39391465HoloEN is a black company
>>39391364cat just died overnight
>>39391465Overworking them with what
>>39391376But Cover just debuted 4 new EN talents for them to watch.
>>39391173Yep, Cover massively misread the market with their decision to focus on EN Stars this year. Obviously they couldn't have predicted that they'd lose some of their top streamers, but you'd think they'd have taken notice at how weak their bench was anyway.
>>39391001dead givaway, no way Gura knows how to use a semicolon
>>39391426Mental issue is codename for lots of work for roommate
>>39391465>Stop overworking talents you sick f*cks>overworking GuraAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>39391058Twå!
>>39389442COLD SHARK>shark tastes like chicken
>>39391183Sounds like a maternity leave desu.
>>39390962A 6 month rest will be good for her. She's been too busy with multiple projects and song releases afterall.
>>39391525Constant 4 AM meetings making them sick.
>>39391567nousagibro...
>>39391567Proof next thread?
>>39389442Chumpedos status?
What would be the ramifications of Gura leaving Holo for Vshojo
Please watch my wives.https://youtube.com/@IRyShttps://youtube.com/@Nekoyo_Chloehttps://youtube.com/@gaonmaimai
Did gura do a Christmas stream last year?
>>39391525>>39391560anon, even the Tempus bos have mentioned that 80% of their time is spent on filling random forms and administrative stuff. Gura and many other girls even in JP side gets overworked as well
>>39391653Moved to jew loli and Zaion
>>39391318holostahahahaha
>>39391058TOWA LEWDS!?<TOWA LEWDS!!B-But she's a boy->EVEN BETTER!
>>39391693Your wife not mineGo fucking watch her if you love her so much
Did they record the stuff for the Deco*27 concert yet or is Bae going to get fucked?
>>39391318KiaraKiara
>>39391653Hoping my oshi to take extra care of herself and recover soon.GURA LOVE
>>39391693Good taste on the first two, anon
>>39391721Zaion is for hag lovers; she fills a different niche
>>39391465>Overwork>GuraHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Multiple projects and song release am I right?
Kek she's still yet to follow that account. Base til the end.
>>39391632This one,I thought jun married and rrat confirm the wife is not Pekora?
>Gura killers fall.>Gura falls.
>>39391721Boora is more like HER. Chumbuds dislike HER.
>>39391795Bae will get Ayame treatment.Also I want to fuck Bae.
Guys, it is not too late to join the grimgang. The seats are limited but there are still some left. Get on board now.
Ah fuck something I just realized, how long of a break from Gura would risk her participation in Holo 4th Fest? Kanata managed to power through Covid last year but not sure if whatever Gura has would prevent international travel as well as dance/singing rehearsals...
>>39391826she'll be a 3view in a month lmao
I can't believe Gura is fucking dead.
>>39391633heres some gura VOD Copehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLrtZfpD-U&t=902s
>>39391058
>>39390962she's at the hospital, so obviously it will not be serious
>>39392005MATCHINGPANTIES
>>39391934why do I feel like its not physical but mental. Looks like she has lost the motivation to stream but don't want to leave Hololive so probably its a therapy time
>>39391795Seeing that Bae said she has been busy recordings at studio recently, I assume that they are doing it.Gura probably can still afford to records things anyway. It's not like it's that taxing
>>39389697Yea, this is the update. It's bad, bad enough that she has to skip all of Christmas and probably new years, and maybe even the Mario kart tourney at this rate.
>>39390985it's called coping hard
>>39391318nijisanji is gonna release 3-4 gens before gura comes back (if she comes back). I'm sure they'll be filled with kusogakis/lolis
>>39390984sounds like pregnancy
>>39391930Not interestedt. nousagi
lmao
>>39391934thats likely the reason she and management thought a hard break is needed to ensure shes healthy enough for fes
we need EN3 RIGHT FUCKING NOWHAACHAMA SAVE US ONEGAI
>>39391930>The seats are limited but there are still some left.The ones left without seats will have to sit on the laps of the first generation GRIMGANG>which is, given the demographics of this board, GRIM in itself
>>39392100Who raided?
>holoEN will be on literal life support soonIt was fun while it lasted. Omega refuses to release EN3 so I guess this is it. RIP
>>39389917Didn't we already have one of those?
>>39391058Towa on the tally again!Towa inclining
>>39392005This is the picture Towa talked about sending Suisei over DM. Saying it was cute. Suisei asked her if they should get underwear that looked like this to match.
Are you ready for EN3 announcement tomorrow?
>>39391930I watch JP
>consecutive nijiEN wins>suddenly cripple tally disappearCome on now, don't be a coward, take it like a man.
>Ame>Mori>Kiara (no voice)>IRyS>BaeBack to one gen numbers...
>>39392051Losing motivation to stream would be those like Aqua, Ayame, Shion and Ina. It's some what obvious from watching their stream, so far Gura had express none like those.
So who's going to step up to the plate? Fauna and IRyS have already peaked and aren't going to be inclining much further. Ina will be back but there's a huge hole that needs to be filled.
>>39392216Shut the fuck up, let him stay dead.
>>39392216he's an irystocrat
>>39392088Holy shit, that's a rrat that would destroy the industry if confirmedI mean, there is precedent but IronKid precedes the rise and rise of the beloved mother
>>39392216>Come on now, don't be a coward, take it like a man.No one's stopping you, anon.
>>39392197HoloJP started straight but it would now seem they are all prison gay.
Gura has been on an extended break for most of the year already. Why wasn’t this update released 6 months ago?
>>39389442So that's what Vesper bought his spear for?
>>39391127if you have more golds than Hololive channel you are stronger than the box, this is proven by Kanata having exactly as many golds as the box since she is a leech>fucking TOWA is 2 marika hype streams from being stronger than the boxalso the only streamers stronger than the combined power of nijisanji twitter normies are>aqua (forma de apex)>kuzuha>miko>pekora
Gura is pregnant with vespers child isn't she?
>>39392185Which EN vtuber died?
>>39392216In his defense he usually posts late as fuck, 3AM JST, sometimes 4AM JSTIt is funny to see him to become the chronicler of HoloEN travel through the GRIM zone
>>39392216Gura was the cripple tally anon
>go check on kaela streami never been more confused
>>39392216As expected that crippled gold is made by chumbuds.
>>39392292For goomba his wife
Cover's model relies too heavily on the good nature/performance of their talents.This worked wonderfully in JP as they are honest, hard-working, and ambitious group of people with well maintained support system. Unfortunately their EN branch had been a complete disaster with this model. talents grew to be complacent, lazy, and as far as failing to take proper care for themselves even with the already minimal active time.
>>39392246EN3 any day now...
>>39392272An mostly all girls environment tends to end up that way, is CGDCT just a long con by /u/ schizos?
>>39392308No EN but>Cure Dolly...I still miss my Saturday mornings doing my reps with her
IRyS and Bae should just do a collab karaoke why the fuck are they doing Christmas karaoke same day and nearly same time?
>>39392429Always was.
>>39392216I knew that handicapped gold was made by cumtards, not by the NijiCN sisters.
>>39392383You meant the one falsely accused him of harassment to the management just because she didn't want to collab with him. A man need to take revenge by his own hand
>>39392005hot
HoloEN morale is at an all time low.NijiCN won...
Can someone please make a colored hiatus chart of Gura like the Hunter x Hunter one?
Don't panic holobros. Kronii and Ina will return with break buffs in January to Gura-like numbers. Fauna and IRyS will pick up the slow days, and Mumei will return to form and rape everyone else if needed.
>>39392433EN Relay Karaoke
>>39392522don't be delusional, no one can replicate gura's numbers
>she will continue to use twitter to connect with her fansWasn't that the GRIMMEST sentence in all of that announcement?
>>39392480Cope it's very clear gura is bearing vespers child
>>39392522You expect Kronii to be back next month?
>>39390893>https://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1605615746981122048taking a break from not streaming is a novel concept.
>>39392597Outside of NijiEN's events, HoloEN don't really need Gura's number level, though.
>>39392264anon miko took a 3 month pregnancy break to live out in the mountains with her ex-yakuza boyfriend and returned to streaming no problem
>>39392621>she will continue to use twitter to connect with her fansLmao press " x " to doubt
>>39392663>NijiEN's eventsThey have 32 members anon. They can have one every day. Even for a single event like Anniversary they milk it and do multiple streams.
>>39392684>live out in the mountainSo that's why Vesper got a spear, went on a camping trip in the forest and buried some emergency rice recently. He was scouting for a suitable location
Imagine a Senzawa tweet tomorrowWould you be sad, happy or angry??
>>39392663It's needed when Niji does buff streams almost every week
>>39392621With Ina i actually believed her at the start, no way in hell would Gura of all people do it
>>39392621Meh, I think chumbuds are desensitized to that already.
>>39392779I don't need to think about it because, if nothing else, Gura's love of being Gura is the real deal.
Reminder instead of EN3, they debuted Tempiss.
>>39392773now the rrat is starting to make sense now. Gura and vesper is hiding their love child
>>39392433They share 1 brain cell
>>39392779happy and hope she fucks off from holo, she was the first to become lazy and infected the rest with her laziness just because she oshis whores like aqua
>>39392765Is cuck stream an event?
>>39392621she literally tweeted half an hour later, keep seething
Why did Gura's oshi have to be Aqua bros...
>>39392915>she
>>39392779Good, Fauna and Mumei will carry holoEN together and incline slowly.
>>39392328>Gura was the cripple tally anonBasically. Without her, it's just a bunch of sub 10k streams when there aren't any special events.
>>39392663>holoEN is still stronger than nijiEN if you cherry pick streamsSure, keep in mind there has been only 2 streams from HoloEN that is 20k+ (one from Gura) this month while NijiEN has 14
>>39392915>;
>>39391127Can Pe-Pe get 60 golds by the end of the month?
>>39392886Trying to hard nijitranny.
How are HoloEN bros coping?>t. Tempiss fag
>>39392384JP had like twice the number of talents added in the same amount of time that EN has existed. They've also had health breaks and whatnot, but it doesn't string as badly when you have a bench. Cover needed to treat their side branches like early JP.
>>39392975Debut and anniversary?
>>39392945She will never stream unless there's something to shill, she will only appear in 3Ds now...
>>39392957>no, that one doesn't countWhat gives?
>>39392915Start taking bets on how long until the next tweet.
>>39392779Happy.
>>39392915HOLY SHIT; SHE JUST TWEETED AGAINhttps://twitter.com/gawrgura/status/1554147832629698562
>>39393086she will tweet tomorrow or I will become a kindred
>>39393100Manager post
>>39392262>>39392262Huh I had the impression he was a Guratomo given that would be the kind of CCV tally that she would always win little did we know that Gura would stream fuck all on this year.
>>39392384Hololive needs to unironically hire 1-2 hags in the next EN gen, they have been relying too much on younger girls prone to university stress, emotions, etc.
>>39392779Unironically I'd be happy because at least at it's something. At this point I genuinely worry she might have like cancer or something given how her stream hours have steadily gotten worse and worse as the year has gone on.
>>393930863 weeks
>>39393177There are no western hags that want to be a vtuber
>we don't need EN3
NijiEN is stronger than HoloEN now, unironically.Cover has ceded an absurdly dominant market leader position, and managed to do so within a period of like 6 months. Should probably be used as a case study in entertainment mismanagement.
>>39392975Don't forget Vox Vs runt of HoloEn most of the time now
This is why NijiEN is better than HoloEN. They actually want to be there.
https://twitter.com/kobokanaeru/status/1605621383219683331Kobo is the ID showing up for Kiara
>>39393224what do you need it for?
>>39393021fuck them. Never forget never forgive. Hope our boys get a nice boost with gura gone.
holobros it's fucking over
>>39393028HoloID is older than EN as a branch by half a year and have less members, yet they continue to do well. Active members with multiple big projects in the works and nowhere near their all time low in terms of viewership/sub-growth
Gura is becoming a vtweeter? Is this the birth of Guraposting?
>>39393100Lmao this is definitely not gura lmao it's her manager or vesper himself kek
>>39393236Any homos?
>>39393237>5k likes>300 CCVlmao
>>39393267she is going the #ameway
>>39393220You said that but I recently just discovered 1.
>>39393253This but unironically
>>393930333 anniversary, 6 debuts, 1 from Fulgur cause of Yugo's graduation
REMINDER THAT HAACHAMA CONFIRMED EN 3 SOONDON'T LOSE HOPE, GRIMGANG WILL NEVER WIN
>>39392998The end of December are stacked with events, it's unlikely. Unless she answer with equally big event streams
>>39393228they just had a new wave and anniversary week while half of holoen was outlet's just wait and see how next month goes
>>39389464Their numbers will always be better than iLoosers simply because they're better than streaming (at least the girls are I have no intention of checking the fujobaits).
>>39393281I sincerely doubt it.
>>39393228u tried that one already nijisister, pls get new material.
>>39393237>Smiling and laughing at randomThat's concerning
>>39393349>next month all of HoloEN is gone and no EN3 because "the bois are enough"
How do we stop grimchads from winning
>>39393341she didn't confirm anything.
>>39393341THIS 100
>>39393228The doomposters were right....Why didn't people listened????
>>39393302Ame cute
>>39393266> Active members with multiple big projects in the works and nowhere near their all time low in terms of viewership/sub-growth>nowhere near their all time low in terms of viewership/sub-growthSure, if you ignore Ollie and Reine
>>39393397and they'll still be nijiEN
>>39393341THIS JAN I BELIEB
>>39393403Because entropy exists, the grimchads will always win in the end. The question is only of timeframes
>>39393220There are, they just have to be ethnically Japanese
How long do you think she's out for? 4 months? Who had the longest break in holo?
>>39393497>Who had the longest break in holo?miko
>>39393341Where was hopecucks when holoEN fell?
>>39393497probably until holofes
>>39393432>nijisister>ESLE-V-E-R-Y-T-I-M-E
>>39391713kek no they havent kys
Get in here spicbroshttps://youtu.be/D2H32rORUeo
>>39392272>HoloJP started straightroru, Hololive was literally called Homolive back in the good Erolive days
>>39393497I think miko, 2nd is haato
>>39393497she will be back in 2 months, that's my bet
>>39393341She didn't confirmed it. She expect it to be soon.What she doesn't realise is that Omega is a retard that really believes tempiss is EN3.
Grimchads and nijiniggers wonHolofags, idolfags, and unicornniggers lost
>>39393497She should be back by HoloFes.
>>39393341>>39393456Rock and a hard place.They obviously need a new gen like a man in the desert needs water, but if they debut it right now the buggy shittastic Youtube bonus code will fuck those channels to death.There is no winning move, just bad options.
>>39393551HoloJP is thriving and HoloID is fine.
>>39393547Didn't Korone and Botan also talka about a similar thing just a few days back?
>>39393497Mel
>>39393237Didn't she spent almost an hour graduation-baiting yesterday (or two days ago)? Guess that was just a trick for sympathy SC after all, huh..?
>>39393536>solo 16kjajaja
>>39393624That was about JP7, they dont care about ENshitters.
>>39393409Yeah,we know you don't watch haachama stream.
>>39393536>Death Battle of two characters from the same fucking franchiseCompletely fucking pointless.
>>39393341EN3 is never happening
The dev superchatted Kaela kek
>>39393497>>39393508>>39393543I think Mel had a longer break then Miko, Mel was on a soft break for nearly 5 months with the occasional song cover release to mask how long it was.
>>39393536>17k>Dragonball Grim
Here's my plan to boost numbers. HoloEN manager, please listen to me>first of all release EN3>graduate Kiara asap she's beyond saving>tempiss collab aren't happening right now, make sure it stays that way>give IRyS the 1-4 AM JST timeslot>Give Ina or Funa Gura's timeslot>make sure Fauna collabs with at least one person every week so they can leech off her>more handcam streams, holochads clearly like them>ban FPS streams>pay for these bitches plane tickets to do offcollabs>more gameshow collabs would be great>celebrate your milestones, it's free money and easy viewers>bring back minecraftmore ideas?
>HoloEN will never win cripple gold for the forseeable futurelmao why are you loser holobronies even still here?
>>39393667timestamps
>>39393266Cover honestly lucked out with ID, other than Risu being lazy all their members are really consistent. Most importantly though, ID has no real competition (NijiID is so garbage they barely count) and the entire branch got a much-needed injection of renewed interest via getting their own breakout star in the third gen. Meanwhile, Cover is essentially ceding the EN market to various competitors through inaction and stupid decisions. It's like a reverse of how Hololive took the JP market from the Nijis.
>>39393765Why do you hate Kiara and IRyS
>>39393785For real gold?
Ame geoguesser it's that new?
>>39393237holoEN also wants to be there faggot
>>39393765the worldbuilding thread is that way
>>39393765sasuga green leech
>>39393814Did you not ask for Tempus?
>>39393765based
>>39393861They're annoying
>>39393883> 300k BOXYour turn holokek
>>39393911No I'm not nijinigger
>>39393785niji will go back to struggling to break the 6k line again next month
>>39393583>There is no winning move, just bad options.And nothing will change unless someone decides to stop waiting for the "perfect conditions" and the whole branch will be killed by some indecisive fucktard.
>I want EN3 already!
>>39393943doko?
>>39393935Kys Fagling
>>39393888faumei are a treasure don't compare them to nijinigs
>>39393888I love these two.But only these two.
>>39393943>2022 GOLDS>PER COMPANY234x: Hololive109x: Nijisanji6x: Indie, Neo Porte1x: Kizuna AI Inc.
>>39393583are you blaming the "buggy shittastic Youtube bonus code" for what happened to xsoleil?
>>39393888
>>39392915yes, we all saw mane-san tweet
>>39393750See, this is why it was important that JP had a larger bench, they could weather things like 5 month breaks. I wonder if Cover even sees EN as a separate market or just like an extension of JP.
>>39393814So what Omega position in Cover?I always thought he is the HoloEn head of something.
>>39393977Granted. They will be worse than iluna.
>>39394073Producer
>>39394039it's nijicope, who the fuck wants fake/dead subs
>>39393765Kronii needs to stop playing shit games, it makes me angry how wasted those tits are.
hey guys
holokeks status?
>>39393977Granted. All of them are deadbeats
>>39393888Kek that awkward and rigid mumei tweet from near debut
>>39394073Nobody really knows, it's all just guesses. Some will tell you Omega isn't even a single person although I don't believe that, I can recognize his retarded writing style and influence anywhere it touches. It's incredibly obvious that one retarded "creative" was behind the Council schizo preview videos and the Tempus chuuni manga shit, that's someone's middle-school tier vision
>>39394174
>>39394228>>39394073What if Fauna is Omega?
>>39394168Is this Gura? She's blue.
>>39391058>>39394196
>>39394259numbers is numbers
>>39394073P-San, who apparently all the managers report into.
>>39391058>no towa lewdsi guess its up to me again *sigh*
>>39393861I don't hate them. Everything Kiara does is detrimental to HoloEN's numbers.IRyS wants no overlap so she should get no overlap.
>>39394260No chance. Fauna is smart, Omega isn't
>>39394260Then Tempus will never exist in this timeline
>>39391058>>39394280
>>39393977Granted. 5 talents will arrive in late January, however;*Their debut will only last 30 min each on the same day*Two of them are genuine whores*One of them will graduate within the first two weeks after their debut*The last two, who seem to be pure at first glance, are actually manipulative and will create drama in the EN branch to try to grab some more viewers.
Oh, Kamitsubaki is doing their own two day fes this yearhttps://twitter.com/kamitsubaki_jp/status/1605535247319240705
>>39394320IRyS used to have no overlap. It’s a conscious decision of hers to stream at overlap time
>>39394259
>>39394193she definitely got better at that stuff kek
>>39391058>>39394355
>>39394376EN JP5?
>>39393935>>39394320nijiseethe
where are the towa images?
>>39394301>>39391058
>>39394400 (me)Posting from phone is hard
>>39394320kiara should have graduated years ago
>>39394291>>39394112>P-San, who apparently all the managers report into.lol insane. Did that position even exist before omegatroon? I remember roberu saying holostars (and hololivers?) were "self-produced".
>>39393765>make sure Fauna collabs with at least one person every week so they can leech off her
>>39391058>>39394419
>>39394449>>39391058>>39394438
>>39391058>>39394520
>>39394470In the sense Shinove only answered to Tanigo without this retarded middlewoman (man) like it happens on HoloEN
>>39394539>>39391058
>>39394394Took them long enough.
>>39391058>>39394574
>>39394397The only time IRyS wasn't overlapped was before Council's debut. After Council's debut, there were always at least one member overlapped her 11-1PM JST timeslot (started with, IIRC, Kronii, then Mumei came later and Ame + Bae were occasionally around, too)
>>39391058>>39394627
>no-one says anything>"Your voice has been heard, your wish has been granted>Public outcry for EN3>Radio silence
>>39394460Chicken is good streamer for reaction but her fucking voice.you mute the video and it look a lot less annoying
>>39391058>>39394671
>>39394677just watch Tempus and NijiEN lol
>>39394586>>39391058
>>39394470A-chan said Omega is her EN branch equal and she’s the creative director iirc
>>39393965They'll still dominate in hours watched and combined CCV
>>39391521>>39391506""""cat"""" """"died""""
>>39394687Why does this thread harp on Kiara's voice so much when Pekora is just as bad?
>>39391058>>39394723Most startend images aren't that lewd
>>39391058>>39394733
>>39394667Why do IRyStocrats always make shit up? She's streamed plenty without overlap.
>>39394740>Omega is her EN branch equalThe absolute night and day difference is staggering
Will EN3 save holoEN?
>>39393785>loses to towa
>>39394470So he is a producer for the idol call HoloEn..just fired him already,is he Yagoo cousin or something?
how do we save them?
Recommendation for worthwhile EN female chuuba? From smaller corpos or indies maybe?Which ones from NijiEN are most unicorn friendly?
>>39394778Pekora's voice gets her good numbers. Kiara's does not
>>39394851>Which ones from NijiEN are most unicorn friendly?Don't even bother asking
>>39394811Depends. It has a high chance to be worse than iluna due to the diminishing EN talent pool. If it is just another council-tier talents it is literally over. If it is Myth tier then holoEN can struggle for another year or 2.
>tfw you see the cock of middle aged vampire>"Sorry guys, will be taking a break due to health issue tee hee."
>>39389442wwwwwwwDYRBID Y R B I>D Y R B I>christmas season>everyone and their (imaginary) cat dyingwhy can't she lie like the last time she had a "surprise visit"?
>>39394851>Which ones from NijiEN are most unicorn friendly?rorurumao
>>39394851>NijiEN>unicorn friendlyanon...
>>39394866The Tempiss special
>>39394851Not unicorn friendly but the gura killer in new wave is ok imo.
>>39394791>>39391058
>>39394851>Which ones from NijiEN are most unicorn friendly?That's like asking which whore is most pure.
>>39394851t. nijinigger
>>39394851Nice try nijinig
>>39394866hahahaha where are your 300K viewers nijisisters
>>39394823JP work culture is weird, they are reluctant to fire people as long as they're "doing their best." Best you can hope for is they transfer him to some other role.
>>39394934she's going to be gargling vox's cum soon. they even have a collab lined up.
>>39394778Because it's not just voice, she has zero charisma and appears to hate videogames.
>>39394971Nijichads, unlike hololosers, have family and productive work to do
>>39394938>>39391058
>>39394687she's not a good streamer by any metric whatsoever
>>39394851>Which ones from NijiEN are most unicorn friendly?None. If you want unicorn friend you go to Production Kawaii and pick any of the girl except for Aletta because she wants Alban's cock.
>>39395023>Japanese>family and productive worklolrumao even
>>39390342yes all his 1-1 collabs with the girls were kino so far
HoloEN needed to get the HoloCN treatment. The talents does nothing but damage the brand and most of their most vocal fans does everything to enable them.
>>39394851Rucaco daughter,fallen shadow
>>39394687KEKthere are no good streamers in holoEN. the only passable ones are gura and fauna. IRyS and mumei only if you're invested in them and want to listen to them ramble about random shit that tourists don't care about
rhololive must be ecstatic since there was so many members to keep track of and now they dont have to for the holidays with all these recent events.
>>39395023This again...
>>39395117What do you mean?
>>39394900Stuff it shitposting faggot, whatever news she got from the doctor, it's bad enough that she's willing to go through Cover to release a statement instead of just enduring it silently like when she got the 'vid.
>>39390485yes, this is why we have an active campaign for StarsEN2, obviously fans can't have enough of them! just look at how many people watch them daily!
>>39395136Fauna doesn't talk about anything better than those two
holoEN is a disaster, more than 1 year without a new gen (fuck holostars) and now everyone is "sick" or on breakEven if they could somehow stream while dying like Kiara it doesn't excuse how terribly this branch is being managed
>>39394778That is natural and unnatural different
>>39395099>kawaii has been tainted by nijisanjiGuess I'm avoiding all of their content.
this clip is hilarious based haachamahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUhFVvr1hQ
>>39394798If neither Kronii, Mumei nor Ame streamed in her timeslot, sure. However, more often than not, Kronii overlapped her when the clock streams.
>>39394851I recommend Enna Alouette.
>>39395033>>39391058
>>39390962>rest>after coming from a break>that came from another break>into another breaksurely releasing a 45m 3D live and ZERO cover songs in a year can tire some people
>>39394851You'll get eventually fucked with instability and career ending drama if you go for smaller corpos or indies.Your real options are only within NijiEN to be frank, Selen/Rosemi would probably be the most 'pure' amongst them
>>39394798He's right though, Kronii and Mori used to overlap her a lot.
I refuse to believe nijisanji doesn't pay people to shit up this board. It's so obvious holy shit, they're so desperate.
>>39395296Kronii barely streams though
>>39394851>NijiENRUMAOJust watch Amiya from Tsunderia, she's very idol-like without the cringy GFE shit like ProKawaii. Bonus points if you're a boomer.
>>39395277>>39391058
>>39395296He wrote that she has always had at least one person overlapping her and its just not true.
>>39395327meds, your tribe lost. Get over it
>>39394798Kronii used to start streaming at 11AM JST. That's within Irys's streaming range (10AM JST to 1PM JST) and Irys streams for 4-6 hours each session. They were bound to overlap plenty so I have no idea wtf you are talking about unless you are shitposting.
>>39395327NijiShills already took over the holo and vtubers reddits and they are taking advantage of holoEN shitting the bed to gain ground here
>>39395380
>>39394851Kawaii is the most "unicorn friendly" corpo. Niji EN is not any way. Pomu is a good streamer in Niji EN but if you're gonna get hung on on the "collab with men" thing don't even bother watching the branch.
>>39395289Problem I always see with smaller corpos is that they usually have an obvious inner discord circle that tend to be filled with the biggest jackasses that you can imagine.
>>39395389>>39391058
Not debuting EN3 in 2022 sure is paying off.
>Your oshi>Have you accepted that NijiEN is stronger than HoloEN now that Gura is basically inactive
>>39393977you know how bad it will bein fact, there's a BIG chance they debut a mixed gen unity wholesome friendly wall-breaking gen
>>39395390>Nitpicking "always" instead of "a lot"No idea what kind of beef you have against irystocrats but this is pathetic desu. He made his point >>39395266 clear enough to me
>>39395478FaunaYes but I'll never watch them
>>39395436>Pomu is a good streamerGood joke. She is a holo-lite but her content is worse than any of the holo. Also dead air.
>>39395431
>>39395491Always means always, sorry you don't understand English.
>>39395478If they win the medal count in January, maybe
>jp7 next month its over...ENbros..
>>39395182>>>>>>>>>>>enduring silentlyjust check his insta bro
Been away for a while. Numbers thread posts trash AI lewds?
>>39395478>multiple consecutive new gens full of dudsnijiEN is dead if/when they lose the luxiem zhang tourists.
>>39395511
>>39395478>Iroha>Sadly yes
IRyS would be first army without overlap and she has proven that.
>>39394778Is Pekora voice bad? I have heard worse, not like Kiara voice is bad either
>>39393341WE ALREADY WON
So now that Gura has retired, whose timeslot is it?
>>39395478>NijiEN*Luxiem
>>39395491Always is 100% of the time, and it's because IRyStocrqts exaggerate every single thing when posting about her to make her look better or make some other streamer look worse.
>xsoleil already under ilunait's no wonder their stock holders are panicking, going public was such a terrible idea
>>39395587IRyS.
>nijiEN wonholy
>>39395587Vespy
>>39395558Can you retards kys already, stop falseflagging as me and leave my wife alone.
>>39395514You know ad-hominem and tone responding / grammar policing are the two lowest form of arguments, don't you?
>>39395478Mumeimeh i don't care, my oshi just keeps getting cuter so it doesn't matter to me
>>39395438Yes this is what i can't stand as well. The obvious inner circle discord of VIPs that almost every small corpo has. Not even the purest unicorn is worth that shit
>>39395628NijiEN wins by doing absolutely nothing!
>>39394851Jewra is unironically pretty good, but she does seem a bit fabricated, like some sort of frankenstein between Gura and Senzawa.
>>39395628sure they did.
>>39395587Time for someone to try to claim it, we've seen plenty of people flirt with it the past few weeks
>>39395558Even with overlap she got the highest CCV EN stream this year
>>39395554
>>39395558I agree, these whores always streaming over her also cause her song's numbers to be shit.
https://twitter.com/PRISMproj/status/1605624145785520137
>>39395514>>39395558>>39395390>>39394798Samefag
>>39395564Anons thing it is just the "animesque" voice that is Kiara problem>it's notKiara's biggest problem is that her voice plus some of her favorite subject matters>bitching about anything and everythingsounds terribly condescending and patronizing<chicken voice>>and then they asked me to stay up a little later that day but you guys know how important to me is my sleep schedule>so I declined and told them to just move the collab four hours earlier if they want me to participate, which they want
>>39395670Seems like this sort of thing happens a lot in vtubing.
>>39395611Im sure stockholders care about CCV when Anycolor never reports on this but revenue and profit
>>39395587Bae streams in it the most aside from her
>Zaion still getting shit>her streams keep getting privatedhow long until they're forced to change her name? what were they thinking holy shit she doesn't even have the numbers to be worth the drama
>>39395283Somehow people thought that a girl who, despite being popular, released low-effort meme videos once every few months on her PL would change her ways long term.
>>39395701
>>39395661You know that exaggerating everything you post a about your oshi to make her look better makes you look like a huge faggot, don't you?
>>39395702Charted well, though
>>39395587it's dangerous to claim it because when she comes back they're fucked
>>39395670NijiEN won by doing stuff while HoloEN did nothing. They kept their ball rolling while HoloEN decided to stagnate
There's a lot of mysticism behind the Gura slot in this thread but it wasn't really about the time slot. It's a good slot but it's not perfectly optimal, much of the west coast isn't home from work at 5pm.The reason the Gura slot worked is because Gura was streaming in it, and the reason it was dangerous for people to overlap it... is because Gura was in it. Gura was the main ingredient.
>>39395753what drama? are you retardded?
>>39395749>BaeI reiterate, whoever might claim this vacated timeslot?!
>>39395719>Ambassador for the mentally IllKEK
>>39395760
>>39395753Qrd why is her name getting the vods privated
>open a comfy pomu stream>she starts talking about going to a sex-shop with an ex-prostituteis this what nijicucks are into? no wonder nobody watches her
>post defending IRyS>IESLBevery time
>>39395753What is it this time?
>>39395817ask kanye
>>39395815
2021 vs 2022 number of over 10k+ streams
>>39395763She isn't even my oshi. I wasn't the guy who was arguing with you. I just found nitpicking to be retarded unless you are shitposting
>>39395856Her latest streams didn't have to get privated. She's over that now
>>39395721All me
>>39389442K, EN is dead now
>>39395896
https://www.twitch.tv/viichan6>11 hours into the stream started doing acapellaThe best thing to come out of the # thread in 2022 was introducing me to the Isegye Idol vtubers
how long has it been since a nijiEN girl has had decent numbers consistently? the big ones seem to struggle so much to even get a measly 10k. And so many of the girls (finana, petra, reimu,...) are literal 3views. Is that why they're always looking for a drama buff?
>>39395904Grim
>>39395150But they can inexplicably name all 30 plus members of NijiEN and also explain all of their persona and inside jokers etc
>>39395950
>>39395904That's sad. EN3 back in April and Tempus in July would have been perfect.
>>39395478Other than Luxiem (that's reclining hard), the latest waves have all been dying fast, XSoiled is already at ILusers tier not even two weeks in. The only thing they have ight now are buff streams with magically warping "tourists".
>>39395904Absolutely grim for HoloEN.....How the fuck the lost a 40 entries lead to negative 15 just in a year???
>>39396001
>>39395915Well then good for her.
>>39395667Iirc during the whole Alban shit, the kawaii discord mods were basically telling the girls to fuck the haters and implying they should collab with guys
>>39395904>HoloEN halfed>NijiEN doubledoof not a good trend for holokeks
do we have any 5ch reactions to the death of en?
>>39395719Wasn't she a GFE chuuba?
>>39395795Tale as old as time, you can pick any top company (or nation/civilization even) that was on top and lost their position in pretty much the same way.
>>39395637he will be in japan in january is he? it wouldn't be a surprised if he takes that slot for not stream after midnight
>most of xsoleil are under 2k alreadywhy did it fail? would graduating one give them the boost they need? I feel bad for kotoko, she's gonna be under 1k before the end of the year.
>>39396058
>>39396055Mismanagement and declining popularity, could be worse if that helps
Or you know, you can just watch Tempus. They're part of hololive productions.
>>39396097Probably just gonna blame Cover as usual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rF3wwzsw70These 3 cute girls are doing a 3D live
>>39396094Retard you're comparing the wrong listsIts significantly worse
>>39396108
>>39396128As they should
>>39396106iLuna killed all the hype
>>39396123Might as well tell people to eat shit.
>>39395801>It's a good slot but it's not perfectly optimal, much of the west coast isn't home from work at 5pmnext thing you'll tell me is that you think NFL games would get better viewership if they started later
>>39396154>3>girls
>>39395904>even removing all of xsoliel holoEN loseswatching noombers in real time is disheartening sometimes but wcyd it happens things could always get better but who knows
do you think niji streamers ever think about how much better they'd be in hololive? I mean many of them are holorejects and they could get much better numbers. I still remember the infamous discord screencap lol.
>>39396097some idiot comes here and translate what the other idiot said and post it as the truthsame as always
>>39396193Californians don't know the world outside of California exists.
>>39396167
>>39396123vesper his streams are comfy and magni la creatividad hombre I don't care about the rest
Going through all these Towa lewds...How many tattoos does she canonically have?
>casually has the same amount of viewers as the rest of his gen combined Imagine if StarsEN2 has 4 Vespers
>>39396123who?
>>39396123Nah, i'll just go watch JP indie hags.
>>39396229
Guess I'll start watching Nijisanji
>>39395904theres a lot more 10k+ streams in NijiEN in 2022 than that
we could've gotten EN3 back in the July bros
>>39396280
>>39396318Go to sleep, SEAchama.
>>39396244just the hearts and the lewd crest.
>>39396317This is comparing december 21 to december 22
>>39395841Nothing wrong with hanging out with Melody, she's a honeybun
I dunno if enna is handling the crisis correctly. That's a lot of confidence for someone with that little audience. I'm sure a lot of aloucucks will embrace their new role but her numbers will resent.
>>39396333
>>39396359there's still a lot more. this is missing karaoke, outfit reveal, selen collab with holoID, a lot of things
>>39396352the belly tat on one of these had me wondering...thanks anon
>>39395841do holoprudes really?
>>39396377
>>39396373CCV rarely tanks from shit like that, it's SCs that get fucked really.
July 18th, never forgetthe day HoloEN died
>>39396373>That's a lot of confidence for someone with that little audience.she's competitive with holoEN. her audience is huge.
>>39396400Bro the selen collab was in October not December
>>39395904ABSOLUTELY GRIM
Global>1 120,274 Nijisanji JP>2 97,205 Nijisanji JP>3 126,856 Hololive JP>4 188,104 Nijisanji JP>5 145,292 Hololive JP>6 130,675 Hololive JP>7 132,030 Hololive JP>8 93,853 Hololive JP>9 110,091 Nijisanji JP>10 130,244 Hololive JP>11 243,776 Nijisanji JP>12 118,007 Nijisanji JP>13 173,772 Nijisanji JP>14 148,801 Hololive JP>15 101,239 Hololive JP>16 114,018 Hololive JP>17 128,951 Hololive JP>18 379,053 Nijisanji JP>19 120,772 Hololive JP>20 123,112 Hololive JP>21 108,772 Hololive JPx13: Hololive JPx8: Nijisanji JPCripple>1 10,890 Hololive EN>2 32,273 Hololive EN>3 19,080 Nijisanji EN>4 22,199 Hololive EN>5 25,235 Nijisanji EN>6 27,405 Nijisanji EN>7 31,680 Nijisanji EN>8 28,773 Hololive EN>9 23,619 Hololive EN>10 80,755 Nijisanji EN>11 42,767 Hololive EN>12 19,831 Nijisanji EN>13 22,830 Nijisanji EN>14 23,708 Nijisanji EN>15 38,565 Nijisanji EN>16 22,728 Nijisanji EN>17 22,455 Nijisanji EN>18 23,844 Nijisanji EN>19 20,732 Nijisanji EN>20 43,457 Nijisanji EN>21 41,650 Nijisanji ENx15: Nijisanji ENx6: Hololive EN
I keep hearing of temp pass...what is mean temp pass?
>>39396282Watcher Vesper Noir, resident scholar of guild Tempus.
How long will it take for wave 8 to hit 3view status? Xsoleil seems to be on track for it to happen in the first month.
Come home white man
>>39396465Yeah, the wacky, magical audience that only appears when she's doing karaoke or cucking her fanbase on stream.
>>39396511Can't believe she did our boys dirty like that...
>>39396525I'm black
>>393962774 middle aged men who at least fuck a talent each onethat will be a monkey's paw
Unironically, what does Cover do now? The homo faction at EN can push for a second male wave all it wants but a male generation's combined CCV will be worth one female holo at best and Tempus' viewership is still trending downwards, it's a failed avenue with no growth. There's a genuine risk of holoEN losing their entire marketshare to other corpos and even indies because for the last 12 months holoEN's roster and streaming hours have been shrinking. It's a disastrous trajectory to be on when the entire branch is only two years old.
>pomu mc stream>"oh nice, she's visiting the JP server">expect numbers>she starts gushing about JP male>oh god she won't stop>it's getting ackward now>numbers start dropping>she's still flusteredman being a nijicuck sure is tiresome
>>39396544numbers are numbers
>>39396517Except for Zaion, Meloco and Hex, others will be ~1k views. I don't think there will be a wave 8 any time soon.
>>39396511ah the holo stars...you know the holo stars? the en ones?
>>39396567>wave
>>39396216Only girls from Lazulight and Obysidia would ever care. The Ehtyria girls already made it clear they hated having to play the cutsey Hololite role. Iluna is made up of a bunch Luxiem fangirls. And with lolisex Zion is a gacha addict so she'd never be happy in Holo, at best maybe the japanese girls wish they could be in it but they'd probably rather be holoJP
>>39396567Replace EN management with people that have this mythical thing called brain.
>>39396569>The JP is BelmondI totally understand her(also the numbers didn't drop, people tuned in to see her get lost and panicking in the JP server)
>>39396567They won't do anything.They couldn't do anything.The hololive model was never a sound idea when applied to the EN market
>>39396559
>>39396603Anon, they already confirmed a gamer wave, a MALE gamer wave. They are already dead before debut.
>>39391058>13,627: Nui (Nijisanji)Holy Sex made the tally.
I wonder if Tempus exist cause Cover saw the girls number dropping and thought people are losing interests in female chuuba. That’s when they decided to try test it with Tempus
>>39396437
>>39396216HoloEN unironically sounds like an awful group to work in unless you only care about making the most money
>>39396700Luxiem 2.0
>>39396669>The hololive model was never a sound idea when applied to the EN marketBut it worked. Until Cover decided to listen to homobeggars and debut tempiss.
>>39396714I actually love this retarded RPG Hag but I don't like this outfit at all.
man not being able to access old yugo vods sucks. I can't even get the data related to views/likes/etc. Why would they just delete them all just like that? I love nijisanji but it seems like a shitty thing to do to the fans.
>>39396714.... she's looks like kuroinu character bros
>>39396736Luxiem has shit numbers for gaming streams
>>39396641I blame the fact that only NijiEN debuted people in 2022, even my brain's giving up.
>>39396794cope
>>39396739>sananot to mention their streaming was already on a downward trend pre off collab, pre Tempus.
>>39396715Tempus exists because Holostars JP had about 50% kaigai audience.They got delayed ~1.5 years because StarsJP were afraid they'd lose all their audience to a StarsEN.They did that anyway due to the decline in EN vtuber interest.
>>39396715Nice try nijinigger, but HoloEN was literally thriving in July from Sana graduation buff. Atleast get your timeline correct.
I told you EN management were Niji moles.
>>39396567Cover doesn't give a fuck. They would unironically sacrifice their EN branch if it meant boosting the shitty StarsJP numbers. Their main cashcow is HoloJP with StarsJP is their pet project, everything else they would ditch without a second thought.I believe the Tempiss collabs stopped once nips realized what was happening and started pushing back fearing the same would happen to HoloJP. Hell at some point they even involved La+ when she played Valo offstream with the blue homo.
>>39396736Sisters don't watch game streams, plus Noctyx already flopped, Luxiem was lighting in a bottle.
>>39396765>I love nijisanji...Why?
>>39396830So they basically goes “Fuck it number are low anyway let’s try this” with Tempus
>>39396227>Californians are to the rest of the US what Americans are to the rest of the world.Ironic, isn't it.
>>39396669But they didn't really adopt the model that put JP on top, they used the model that JP used once it was already big. Getting lucky with Myth was the worst thing that happened to the branch's long term health, it blinded them to what was actually happening in the market.
>>39396856>Noctyx already floppedfulgur just had a 30k stream a few days ago
Hololove started with a Christmas miracle, now their EN branch doesn't look like it could be saved even with a Christmas miracle. Grim, absolutely grim.....
>>39394394Soon Japan will become country of eternal festivals dedicated to various religious/chuuba idols...
>>39396880yes and at least you guys magging for one day
>>39396564Kronii is already taken so Ame, Mori, Bae, and Kiara. Fauna, IRYS, Gura, Mumei, and Ina stay virgins.
>Nina Kosaka Satisfactory 1,27klol not even boobs and autism can save nijisanji
>>39396854>La+ when she played Valo offstream with the blue homo.Could this be what really led to the pause on collabs?
>>39396880eigo jouzu
>>39396746>Age 25 years oldSo they say.It works with her RPG fetish and it's just as sexy and revealing as her base.
EN mario kart roster changeKronii to IRySGura to Faunagood enough /#/ ?
>>39396958>fauna>mumei
>>39396958lol
>>39394851Yoshika, she sings nearly every day and is really good at it while being capable of great humour!
>>39396920And he's a 2k shitter now, like he always has been. Just "graduate" Sonny Brisko, I'm sure he can squeeze another 30k stream from that.
>zatsu with Pomu, Elira and Finana>in Finana's channelshe might actually beat 1k today guys. I mean I wouldn't bet on it or anything but she might.
>>39395972None of the three you mentioned are 3view. They are mostly over 1k. Aia and aster are the 3view in EN
>>39396920With Yugo graduation buff >He still has 3 more buffs left
>>39397032Just fucking ditch EN and give Kanata a place.HoloEN is dead branch.
>>39396926The start of eternal GRIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFUhFVvr1hQHow is this even possible? They got hard shilled by A chan and EN management itself for months. There's no way she would be unaware. Why did she pretend not to know?
>>39396986Nah man, it just looks off. And the shading just looks so shit since it doesn't even match the shading on her face. It's really offputting.>>39397032>Gura to FaunaFauna would be lucky to not be in zako, especially in that fucking matchup. She's not good at the game, it really wouldn't be fun for anyone involved
>>39397032Man, the Gura Mario Kart training arc last year was kino, how did things fall so far that most of the branch isn't even bothering?
>>39396567Start targeting English speaking Asian countries like NijiEN smartly did
>collectively
>>39396715Nigga Tempiss debuted during Sana's graduation arc and after the offcollab. There were 30-50k streams left and right. And during that time Gura released the single best selling piece of merch in the history of Hololive.Tempiss was a completely retarded bet that ended up backfiring worse than anyone's worst predictions.
>>39397104She can barely stream while juggling college.
>>39397143How well did that work out for those ESL hags? Already approaching 3view by the looks of it.
>>39397143lollmao
>>39397147even that isn't true.
no.....
JWU, I saw the catalog is full of Gura doomposts after she's going full Sana. Anything else interesting happen?