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What if your general was not just a general but a nation, devoted to your oshi and their will? Enter this general where the fanbases and generals of /vt/ are reimagined as countries interacting with each other through means peaceful and militant alike!

Human Sacrifice Edition

Previous thread: >>39251840

Interactive map:
https://vtwbg.github.io/

Introductory document for new anons:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-intro

CURRENT GOALS:
- Keep the thread alive
- Have no timeloops
- Eat the schizos

>Note that the map isn't set in stone.
>Casual Stories or Greentexts of your general in /vt/ land are much appreciated. No need to be pretentious or super autistic.
>Ignore any trolls, falseflaggers or dramafags. Report, hide and move on.
>Don't press anons on their identity if you are not willing to give yours back. Ass Post to prove not a schizo.
>Try to keep hornyposting, socposting and funposting to the absolute MINIMUM until we hit the bump limit.
>Please think twice before posting if you're intoxicated or feeling moody.

THREAD REP TRIPCODES:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-rep-trips

CLIMATE & TECTONICS POSTS (AIDS LORE/PLACEMENT):
Ocean Currents:
https://rentry.org/rvqz9
Weather Systems:
https://rentry.org/nnvbx
Climate Analysis:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-climate
Tectonic Plates and their Movements:
https://rentry.org/dmkyc
Geologic Provinces:
https://rentry.org/ztaf99

CURRENT MAGIC SYSTEM:
https://rentry.org/chuubanite

FLAG POSTS:
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-flags

LORE ARCHIVE:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HM_UK-qNKXQgFH-ixcWsCC3oAgBnFrxCKRPXdKiPMwQ/edit

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Anchor post for any story/map/lore. Please reply here for archival purposes. Please mark and tag the section you want the relevant content to be archived. Unmarked posts will not be archived.
Anchored posts in the last thread will be archived within a day after the thread has been archived. You may also ask for your own archive posts to be updated or organized according to your standards.
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If you will be using a rentry link, please use
>https://rentry.org/
instead of .co, as the latter is filtered as spam.
Thank you!
Please also report if there's outdated/missing lore in OP.
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/VTWBG/ HISTORY
Anchor post for events in the /vtwbg/ canon timeline.
Reply to this post or commentate directly in the sheet suggestions for events to add to the timeline.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18-HH-xmC_qxOS3ZV0Ssxzb1mDA0xVKv31yMDLWo_pEo/edit

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Anchor post for issues to be voted on next time.

>Vote Results
https://rentry.org/m7rhg (most recent)
https://rentry.org/VoteResultsOctober28th
https://rentry.org/usgxq
https://rentry.org/or3ub
https://rentry.org/t7gqwu
https://rentry.org/b5gex
https://rentry.org/44do6
>Bylaws
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-bylaws
>Vote post archive
https://rentry.org/ofx2x

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CURRENT PROMPTS
Feel free to submit your own prompts to inspire others!
https://rentry.org/vtwbg-prompts

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>LORE CATCHUP ANCHOR
Last thread's new lore/discussion you might have missed:

Reply to this post to be included in the next thread's lore catchup.

>>39262093
>>39259369
>>39253921
>>39253214
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First for stream Sinderella -> https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRB8fji0nHtWp1yGoN99i9Woo3W5KUNbE&feature=share

>> No.39284101

based edition. lovely thread. would sacrifice again.

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Would it be bad to cook a person without skinning them? Like would it fuck up the taste or could you get away with it since skin isn't really like hide?

>> No.39285334

>>39285167
Should be fine, human skin is pretty thin, should get nice and crispy if you're using dry heat. You just want to make sure to gut them, not doing that could cause issues.

>> No.39285667

Also pg, aside from just magnitude, i feel overall that this is a repeat of the zeppelin and all you look at is the cold logic behind this and not actually who this is for. Your whole initial response to Hagbro is filled with assumptions on your part and painting Hagbro in the worst light possible.
>conceptual weapon of mass destruction
nowhere was it stated that this was supposed anything on this magnitude at all
>ignoring the fact that you arbitrarily said the curse on /meat/ was permanent
As you already learned, he never stated that at all and was you misunderstanding what a bearer is despite him mentioning who they are several times in his lore
>you put it on us over a misunderstanding that happened from a purely meta perspective
a misunderstanding all of /meat/ let happen and stand because no one corrected him
>and you clearly haven't done much research on our lore, either for /meat/ or chuubanite in general despite us suggesting you do that a few times.
https://rentry.org/ekv2ng here he clearly names /meat/ by it's nations name, something no one ever mentioned to him, so he clearly tried to understand it, also if you take that rentry and compare it with the first one https://rentry.org/qubun then you can clearly see that he also tried to udnerstand the chuubanite system because he mentioned glyphs, the principle of concepts and chuubanite, even if he called it magic rocks. Even if it was not perfect.
>i bet you'll gloss over this comment, too, if you even read or notice it at all.
Talking him down before he even had a chance to respond, really?
also: >gloss over
he clearly tried to understand as much as he could and read as much as he could
https://rentry.org/ekv2ng
look at this again, he names each nation by its proper name, did many actually even know that /mhm/ and /vnug/ had proper names for their nations? And if you look at the blessings, none of them are random either. he chose metalwork for a nation famous for its blacksmiths, he chose warmth for a nation in cold climate, he chose bigger breasts and better breastfeeding for a natin that had mention of their women being mostly smallbreasted except for the high priests. None of these are random but in fact play to some degree into their lore.
https://rentry.org/qngkz
>-Advisor for Trade, chosen by a tournament of mahjong
this clearly references /nasfaqg/, something he would only know if he read that lore.
https://rentry.org/csxqf
>-Science with Holo-dhennet Language
>-Religion with Tsukijin Language
he mentions 2 languages he would only know about if he had seen it somewhere in some lore.
So to say he is glossing over things, when he is clearly trying to intake lore of others is really bad faith. And seeing how he is receptive to feedback to the point he rather delete a whole rentry for /risu/ than have something they are not happy with or him seemingly wanting to give food to /vnug/ for free just because makes the argument that he ignored you on purpose also really bad.
You argue about the balance of wmds when nowhere did he ever say this was meant on such a scale and is only you making that decision on your own, you never even asked him to clarify how much this is meant to affect /meat/.

>> No.39285818

>>39281809
Can you be more specific?

>> No.39286220

>>39285667
Also add to that, that you last thread said yourself people can ask chuubanite experts for help when he did: >>39022171
He asked 3beat directly if it was fine, but now that 3beat has a different view on this it seems that is wrong after all too.

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>>39285818
I'm stumped, particularly on how to get everything into frame. I've got the idea of the great /horni/ city, the concepts of how the economy works, and a good idea on how it works internationally however I feel like the ground isn't stable just yet. It might be that the administration of /horni/ never got much discussion or that its historical origin was mostly ignored but there's a piece yet to slide into place here. Maybe its crops?

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>>39286220
The thing is that when someone asks "Can we do that?", I say "Yes, we just need to... [insert pataphysics]", while PG tends to default to "No, because... [insert pataphysics]", if he sees issues with the proposals. It's not malicious on his part, but it begins conversations with the wrong mindset. I feel like by juggling his ideas on transubstantiation and by moderating the powerfulness of the spells there's a way to massage the concept into a shape that is satisfactory to him, but to be honest I'd rather do some writing at the moment.

>> No.39287796

>>39286313
First you need to figure out the foundations. Culture is more important than government. What drives the horni religion to act the way they do? Is there an abundance of resources and scarcity of other resources? I'm not saying you should design a full evolution path. But start with the culture then ask "how did they get here"?

>> No.39287842

>>39286842
ahh whatever, this whole argument is worthless anyway if he does not return. guess pg can be happy that there will be "conceptual weapon of mass destruction" anymore because that was clearly what hagbro wanted.

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>>39287842
I hope hagbro comes back, god knows practically every active anon here butts heads with PG at least once when they join, I sure did. It's practically a rite of passage. It's unfortunate that it happened the day after another incredibly silly timeloop that involved him.

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>>39287842
He will return, I belieb

>> No.39288904

>>39285667
>nowhere was it stated that this was supposed anything on this magnitude at all
i said that was the inevitable result. if it was something that could forcibly turn an entire nation's population into mindslaves there wouldn't be a question about it. you know, nukes aren't the only kind of wmd, right? there are wmds that are just designed to cause blackouts via emps, or wmds that are designed to alter weather, or even economies. in this setting, there is a wmd that effects magic, and it operates exactly in the same way as what he described. i am not painting him in the worst light possible, i am clarifying what he is doing, partially by his own admission mind you, which, though logically accurate, sounds reasonably bad, given that it is actually pretty bad. i'm not accusing him of doing it intentionally, we all know he is new and that he can't help it, in fact, if you read a few posts after what you were responding to (unfortunately you neglected the reply link) you would see that i never wanted to make it look like i was punishing him or anything, but that i just wanted to correct him on a few things that i viewed as important.
>As you already learned, he never stated that at all and was you misunderstanding what a bearer is despite him mentioning who they are several times in his lore
you are responding to my first post. that was before he corrected me on that, i now know what he meant by it. it has been a while since then, where were you when this started?
>a misunderstanding all of /meat/ let happen and stand because no one corrected him
we tried to correct him a few times, he didn't notice most of them. tbf, we weren't clear enough, and i apologized for not stepping up and trying to make it more apparent to him, but at the time of writing that i didn't know why he didn't respond to me, more on that later.
>so he clearly tried to understand it
i said he didn't do much research on us. he may have picked up the word, but he didn't pick up the meaning, or in this case the name vs the culture, which was my main point. it was surface level research, just because you can point to someone and have them regurgitate trivia like "the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell" on command doesn't mean they have done enough research into what that means to actually understand it. same with the chuubanite system, i didn't say he knew nothing at all about it, he clearly knows about a few pieces of lore, but it's clear he doesn't know how all the pieces work together to form a comprehensive structure. it was my intention to try to assist him with that, given how much it was neglected.
>Talking him down before he even had a chance to respond
now whos painting who in the worst light possible? read the surrounding context to that statement and it's purpose should become clearer. it was a behavior that, at least at the time, i had experienced prior. again, i didn't have any idea why he didn't respond to my posts, all i knew was that he didn't respond to them. everything you say after that is a mischaracterization of what i said, and all of this is stuff i've already talked to /hag/anon about. hopefully we can discuss it again some time, though idk when that will be because he does seem to have a tendency of ghosting us without any warning.
>>39286220
i repeatedly told him that it was possible, but that it depended on how he set it up. he didn't try to explain any of it until some time later, and i responded when i noticed it. basically, anything is possible, it just has to be refined
>>39286842
>while PG tends to default to "No, because... [insert pataphysics]"
see above. when have i ever said that? i have repeatedly said that anything can be done with this magic system, you just need to make sure the explanation fits. the effect you desire is perfectly available to you, you just can't make it operate based on arbitrary criteria that shouldn't have any real connection to the result they describe. if you think in terms of "can it be explained" the answer is automatically yes, but the question of "can it be explained in that specific way" doesn't cross your mind unless you think "is it explained" and then you'll actually have to put some effort into protecting the magic system instead of just making people feel good and worrying about the consequences later.
>>39288099
likewise, if it's worth anything for me to say.

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>>39288904
>when have i ever said that? i have repeatedly said that anything can be done with this magic system,
See
> i view your methods to be crude, to the point where i don't think you could, would, or should be able or willing to do what you have described, or any variant of, even if it were made to work with our magic system.
Look PG, I've said it again and again. Your ideas are good and your heart is in the right place. But damn you really need a translator, especially if you're talking to a newfag. I mean, reading that sentence above it's just kind of... From the point of view of someone on the receiving end of this sentence, this is very hurtful to read.

>> No.39290871

>>39290171
i am sorry if that's how that came across, i swear i didn't mean for it to be hurtful. to be fair, what i meant by that was that it was both unbalanced, and didn't work in terms of the mechanics, which is what i said a few other times in the same comment, i believe i even said he could have the effect he wanted even though i viewed it as a wmd, but i can see now that it could be viewed as me saying he couldn't have the intended effect rather than me saying there was a lot of refining that would be required to make it workable, and while it's not entirely easy for me to see how it would be hurtful, i can understand that my sentences often have that effect. i am sorry. desu, i thought i worded those comments as well as i knew how to, so it's somewhat surprising that they still ended up having something that was like that, and to only find out after this amount of time, i am very sorry if i caused any harm, especially to /hag/anon, who i believe ended up reading that post. i hope nothing i said caused him to leave, as i said, my interpretation of him is that he leaves suddenly without much explanation, but i figured that was because he didn't always have time in his schedule. hopefully all will be fine by tomorrow at least.

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>>39290171
We need to fix Comfy so we get our translator back... 3 do something!

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>>39290871
Well, I guess it might make him feel better to know you didn't intend it that way.
>>39291356
Desu I kinda wish I wasn't asleep while this went down, maybe I could have acted as the in-between.
But yeah, running to Comfy with my toolbox to fix him.

>> No.39292205

>>39291356
Poor dude… I really hope his health improves

>> No.39292491

>>39292205
He still in the hospital I'm assuming?

>> No.39292637

>>39292491
From what I know, yes

>> No.39294277

bump

>> No.39295690

What is the nature of the blue bird in this world? How does it influence things like schizos?

>> No.39295987

>>39295690
I think similar to youtube streams, it's an entity in the Heavenly Realm through which priests or schizo shamans can glean divinations and revelations. Including dox or schizo revelations.

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your all sluts. lore tomorrow since its my day off

>> No.39296111

>>39296028
I'll believe it when I see it.

>> No.39296129

>>39296028
*you’re

>> No.39296469

>>39296028
>>39296129
Dumbass

>> No.39298264

so, after that long and somewhat arduous discussion, it seems everything is now rather quiet. i'll say that, to those i had a discussion with, it was enjoyable, and i hope it was that way for you as well, also, i apologize for any harm i may have caused. hopefully we can have something like that again, ideally with fewer schizo posts next time, as much of a stretch as that may sound. i'm going to do some stuff in the mean time, so please don't let the thread die while i'm away. ty.

>> No.39300524

bump

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Why do you people always do this while I am away?

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>>39304361
We need your calming presence.

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I am just going to assess the damages

>> No.39306039

>>39305247
seconded.
>>39304361
it's great to see you again. sorry that you woke up to the remains of such a chaotic (if admittedly fun) conflict of opinions. i'd say the majority, if not all of it was once again started by yours truly, but it had roots in things that i have been trying to resolve less dramatically for a while, to little success. you and i have discussed as much a few times. also, schizos being schizos, but when is that not the case?
>>39305609
looks like you'll end up looking through the whole previous thread then, pretty much. good luck and i hope you finish it soon enough, or whatever is to your liking.

>> No.39306154

>>39306039
>>39255732
pretty sure this is the start of my role in the stuff, if it makes it convenient.

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>>39306154
>>39306039
Sorry you had to fight through that all on your own, PG

>> No.39306962

>>39306410
there were a few people who helped. i am pretty sure most tried to be as reasonable as they could, with the exception of those who were blatantly stirring up trouble, but they were generally disregarded rather swiftly. it would have definitely been easier with others around, but we managed, i suppose.

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Word cloud for previous thread.

>> No.39309351

>>39290871
Yeah, sadly your initial message towards hagbro comes across plenty of hurtful. The timing of it also sucks since he just got thrown into a timeloop the day before despite having done nothing because someone else fucked up based on a misunderstanding. Which also came across as hurtful towards him initially.

>> No.39309749

>>39309351
i suppose i didn't take that into consideration. as i said, that wasn't my intention. with that said, if you read it as someone who understands how i think and behave a bit more, are the concepts i was describing understandable, to the point where maybe someone else could express them in a more polite way than i have done and potentially resolve any misunderstandings that may have been caused by it? more importantly, do you think it's an accurate enough sentiment to even be worth expressing, or do you disagree with parts of it, perhaps in a way that could resolve my disagreements with his way of doing things?

>> No.39310461

>>39309749
I am sure someone could translate it if he should come back. As for the wmd aspect, i feel you are overthinking it. /meat/ cults and raids seem more harmful for other nations than what he seemed to try to achieve with the curses. It also comes a bit across as you being extra harsh on him due to your bias that he targeted /meat/ and you felt he was ghosting you on purpose.

>> No.39310656

bump

>> No.39311420

>>39306410
well at least we managed to tell alice to fuck off with her attempts at ruining your lore, and ybc lore

>> No.39311520

>>39309351
blame z not pg

>> No.39311572

>>39311420
>>39311520
Have To Agree With This Anon. Those Two Are Truly Wicked.

>> No.39311834

>>39310461
that seems fair, but keep in mind that there is an easy way to counter /meat/ raids even if you ignore the whole metagaming "we only do it if your rep agrees to it" stuff. the way he does it is subtle enough that people aren't supposed to notice it, and doesn't require them to put themselves in any kind of a vulnerable position. they literally need a few hundred children and some magic rocks, and they can curse an entire nation, not just the coasts, with things that can contradict their core concept and still remain theoretically just as powerful.
granted, he wanted the magnitude to be the part of it that varied purely based on whatever the other nation agreed to, which i don't think makes sense. i suggested that it should depend on how well the concept aligned with their core concept, which both increases the difficulty of using it by making them need to understand the culture they are cursing, while at the same time balancing their effect around how dramatically it would change their lore, rather than something arbitrary. i have a few ideas of how to make the idea work better, most of them you can probably guess based on what i have been saying as far back as the first comment, and if he agreed to make those changes i think i would be fine with him having that effect as a trump-card, but whatever.
as for my bias, i did admit in one of the three parts of my first post in that discussion that i was, in fact, biased, but i also tried to explain my reasoning behind it regardless. if he decides to maintain it, i have no control over his decision because unlike the chuubanite system, there really isn't any precedent that a thread can't just randomly declare war on a group because they sound bad, desu, we do make ourselves seem like savages, and the fact that /hag/ has connection to v7 means they are going to tell them just enough to make them believe we are still savages, while also knowing the fact that we aren't quite the primitives we say we are.
it makes sense for them to curse us, i just would rather avoid that personally, especially since i know that the meta explanation stems from an innocent misunderstanding. it was innocent, he had no intention of being threatening, and he certainly didn't mean for what he said to have any influence on lore, but for some reason we didn't communicate soon enough to clear up the misunderstanding. it also doesn't help that the curse is incredibly fitting with out current major problem irl, meme magic and what not it just seems like an unfortunate course of events that really shouldn't have happened the way they did.
with that said, i really do think their idea is tantamount to a wmd, and i don't think there is anything on quite the same level as it in our setting. it might seem small because people aren't used to talking about statistics from such a large scale, but on the scale of nations, small things matter considerably. if it is allowed to influence a culture in the way they described it, i do genuinely believe that technology could be very easily abused, and would realistically be used by people who might not have the foresight to properly use them. the risks of error would likewise be extreme, i am not exaggerating when i say it's a planet-scale catastrophe waiting to happen without regulations on the exact details of how it works.
if you want, i can try to explain that a bit more, i'll admit that it is hard, but i think there is a chance if you've read what i've already said that you might have an idea of it. basically it's the butterfly effect. a skilled user could control the world, an unskilled user could destroy the world, either way, the result would be far reaching and catastrophic for every other nation, and potentially the nation in control of it. it could rather easily create a far more reaching harm than /meat/ cults and raids ever could have, and there is effectively no counter or easily exploited vulnerability, with an almost negligible cost to cast. the only reason it wouldn't be abused would be due to metagaming. i don't want that to be how it works, so of course i have concerns about it. that's my opinion at least. if you have any questions, please ask.

>> No.39311839

>>39311572
Wish we could just purge them from existence for killing yet another promising writer in hagbro. I hate alice so fucking much,

>> No.39311844

>>39306962
And one writer actively undermined you. Guess who?

>> No.39311865

>>39311834
fuck, another wall of text, sorry guys.
>>39311844
who?

>> No.39311882

>>39311865
starts with an A.

>> No.39311967

PG good morning love. Dont blame yourself, we all have experiences we regret. How are you feeling right now?

>> No.39312025

>>39311967
fuck pg, shithead drove hagbro out.

>> No.39312079

>>39312025
and what have you done other than add fuel to the fire

>> No.39312102

>>39311882
yellow woman bad? 7th, 8th, and 9th, my friend.
>>39311967
a little concerned, but hopeful that i can explain myself (or someone else can explain me) to /hag/anon if he shows up. for the most part, i kind of feel disapointed that i didn't get to go into as much detail on how i think his idea could work. as i said, i have been sprinkling the idea here and there from practically the first post, but i haven't found a proper way of describing it, especially since it kind of requires collaboration with /hag/anon to work out the exact kinks enough to be able to turn it from a collection of interesting ideas into an actual, workable system. hopefully he comes around and understands what i am trying to say at some point.

>> No.39312418
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>>39312102
Understandable, I think both you and Z are in the same boat here. Neither of you meant wrong but it came off that way. Unfortunately, it is waht it is and I hope that you guys can make admends.

>> No.39312438

>>39311834
I can envision several counters.
-the bearers act essentially act as living glyphs to maintain the curse. If they are killed or their ritual is interrupted, the curse is stopped (this is what happened to the Moriji blessing).
-the spell is an active part of the Heavenly Realm. It's plausible for it to be detected through divination, allowing the target to develop countermeasures.
-the target can create its own spell to counteract the curse

>> No.39312920

>>39312418
tldr we all suck at communicating and reading the room

>> No.39313249

>>39312438
>the bearers act essentially act as living glyphs
that's a good start, but if i am not mistaken, once the glyph is formed, as long as they stay alive the effects linger. really, i think the fact that it is a single person is the main problem i have with it. imagine trying to find and assassinate a single person holed up somewhere in another nation at this time period. divination might help you figure out that it is happening at all, and can then help you find them, but that requires divination. if you don't even realize you are being effected without divination, it it less of a counter and more of an ability check, like fighting a stand user in jojo as a normal person who can't fight, harm, or even see most stands, let alone use any of their abilities.
>the target can create its own spell to counteract the curse
that creates powercreep, and assumes an even playing field. imagine a scenario where the only viable way to counter someone with a wmd is to have one yourself. actually, you don't have to, it's called m.a.d, and it nearly lead to the extinction of the human race. if only one nation has it, that nation is the indisputable king. if two nations have it, they are rivals for that title, every additional nation that has it increases the likelihood of everyone else dying. nukes are fairly isolated in their effects, either you blow up the facility housing and creating them, or you blow up your enemy. when it comes to these wmds, a mistake has the risk of making the planet inhospitable for human existence, the proper use of it has the risk of taking over a nation and their people, possibly even assimilating them, without the need for any bloodshed or risk. it can all be done remotely. again, i am ok with it existing as long as we add restraints onto it, but i don't think it's current version has nearly enough restraints. add to the sacrifice/complexity of the ritual, write into the mechanics of the magic itself, not as arbitrary fiat but as a core aspect of it's function, the need to only be able to influence a nation by emphasizing negative or positive aspects of their existing culture, not something else entirely.
some guy said all the blessings fit with their given thread, (not so much their threads core concept) and maybe i sound biased for saying this, but that isn't the case for /meat/, and /hag/anon specifically said he wanted the effect of the magic to be that we rely more on hags in our lives, ie a change in our culture. that is the intended effect, and that is the biggest source of concern that i have regarding this whole thing. remove his ability to use that magic to puppeteer other nations, and i'll be perfectly fine with him gaining the ability to strengthen certain aspects of an existing culture through blessings and curses, just not in a way that would realistically take their agency away from them. basically, all i'm asking is for us to define exactly how it works, and make sure it can't be used for more extreme things.

>> No.39313374

>>39312920
100% true, my friend. 100% true. This is our containment thread kek.

>> No.39313491

hello friends!!! drama lame, lets talk lore. i am going to work on pcg more soon. wish me good luck and lot of lovr <3

>> No.39313577

>>39313491
Hey! how are you love? What's cooking?

>> No.39313692

>>39313577
I ate lunch already but thanks)))) i want to maybe work on some city, regional, town, topography names.

>> No.39314159

>>39313249
It is 5 people and it seems they have to stay around the corners of the star, there are also the vessels that simply need to be interrupted, ending the course is a simple act of tipping over a bowl.

>> No.39314921

>>39314159
after the ritual? correct me if i am wrong, but there is only one bearer. all the others involved can do as they please after the blessing or curse was made. am i not communicating myself properly? i clarified that in my previous comments, see
>once the glyph is formed, as long as they stay alive the effects linger.
am i wrong about that? and that addresses only one of my points, and not even the most important ones. do you agree or disagree that it should work well with the mechanisms of the chuubanite system, and that, if not balanced properly, the ability to influence a nation in the way they described basically constitutes a wmd? even if you say bad luck could interrupt the process of establishing the glyph for as long as it takes for them to try again, the fact that the result is so disproportionate should showcase what i am talking about. if you want to add these requirements to my suggestions, that's fine, but the mechanics are also worth considering, see what i said about burning children to ashes and supposedly maintaining their core concepts in the form of the ashes, only to then somehow derive the concept of a nation from those ashes.
if you take the ship of theseus, and burn one of them to ashes, would the ashes become synonymous to the nation of greece? is it ok to have those kinds of jumps in logic in our setting? i want our magic system to be grounded, but also flexible, but some people would rather make it arbitrary and incoherent. it's unfortunate that /hag/anon ended up getting stuck between this debate over whether or not this should be a world building thread, or an especially inbred, yet not quite collaborative /wg/ knockoff.

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>>39312920
Nah, I'm great at it

>> No.39315154

>>39312418
Neither should be blamed but lessons should be learned, not just by them. And Z needs to learn how to respond to people since it is the second time a fuckup of his made someone quit.

>> No.39315274

>>39315154
>second time a fuckup of his made someone quit.
This really is stretching it.

>> No.39315406

>>39315154
i am hopeful that /hag/anon didn't quit, but if they did, i would feel a bit strange to be the one to go over there and ask him how he's doing. hopefully that isn't necessary, but i might be jumping the gun with regard to timing, idk.

>> No.39315533

>>39314921
It clearly states 5 bearers from what i understand. And i could not care less about balance, is /meat/ being able to kill gods balanced? Is /inf/ balanced in contrast to /risu/? I care more about intent and his clearly was not a wmd. As for having this work properly, 3brat already gave you plenty of arguments and you alone are the one objecting. So i ask you, what is more important, letting some smaller details pass to allow everyone in a project to have fun together or forcing everyone to bend to a single person because he alone does not like it.

>> No.39315573

>>39315533
>And i could not care less about balance
what are your reps?

>> No.39315661

>>39315406
>i would feel a bit strange to be the one to go over there and ask him how he's doing
Go over where exactly?

>> No.39315706

>>39315406
I am pessimistic but we should wait for now.

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>>39315406
Don't do that.

>> No.39315731

>>39315661
/hag/, where else? if he wont come here there isn't an other option, and i wouldn't want that misconception to continue.
>>39315706
my sentiment as well.

>> No.39315776

>>39315725
i know, it's annoying, but what else can be done? it's a misunderstanding that can only be resolved if he knows about it. i feel guilty for it, and want to make up for it, but if her really is gone there is nothing i can do.

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>>39315776
>i know, it's annoying, but what else can be done?
Nothing. Simply let hag anon come back on their own time and have this thread remain functional and non retarded, I can't think of a single time that visiting another thread has ever been a positive thing that hasn't just pissed people off. If anything you're just as likely to make him permanently quit the project if you go lurking after him, especially if some schizo picks up on this and decides to tag along for keks.

>> No.39315897

>>39315731
You absolute shit, don't fucking do that. If your posts made him quit that's bad enough, now you wanna stalk him back into his home thread as well? For what? So he comes back and you can do it all over again? Ffs man...

>> No.39315931

>>39315897
His posts did nothing, it was Z trying to help yesterday that did it.

>> No.39315995

>>39315931
>>39251840
Here, it begins right at the start of the thread, go do your reps.

>> No.39316095

>>39315893
>I can't think of a single time that visiting another thread has ever been a positive thing that hasn't just pissed people off.
that's fair, and i agree, it just makes it more annoying that nothing can be done to resolve the communication error. i always hate it when, instead of sticking to something, people leave conversations, or silence people in them. it never helps to do that if the criticism is clearly meant to be constructive. i wont do it, as i said, it wasn't something i really wanted to do in the first place, i just felt like there might not be another way, but i guess i have to wait and accept whatever result occurs.

>> No.39316096

>>39315995
>>39259369
Yeah but this didn't help and I think this broke the camels back.

>> No.39316144

>>39315931
>>39315995
>>39316096
Have to agree that Z jumping in to offer help was clearly salt in the wound, but idk if it really caused them to leave.

>> No.39316190

>>39316144
Well of course, him going "NOOO YOU CANT DO THAT TO UOH." and then giving a half assed apology started it all. Really, he shouldn't have even replied considering how much damage he did the day before.

>> No.39316274

honestly pg, you really didn't do that much considering Z did most of the damage the day before. no need to go apologize since its hardly your fault. the only thing that i will keep in mind now is that Z really shouldn't join in conversations since he clearly has no idea how to communicate with others and has shown this consistenly with retro before hagchad.

>> No.39316312

>>39316190
>>39316274
it's not entirely fair that he apparently can't speak without someone taking offense to him, regardless of his intentions. i have a lot of sympathy with that sort of feeling, and i must say that it really sucks. i just hope people can be more understanding of us when we have these kinds of blunders.

>> No.39316332

>>39315533
well its not just pg but alice too. She wanted to get rid of YBC lore because its not "cool enough" for her. This goes both ways.

>> No.39316378

>>39316312
PG, go back and read what happened with him and hagchad. Hagchad was talking with Cunt about mining in their own lands and Z out of know where says "I am the rep for uoh, you cannot mine our mountains" when he is the rep for V7 and instead of apologizing, just accepts Hagchads apology instead. Really, I have had enough of him personally because this is a pattern.

>> No.39316559

>>39316332
More like meat cannot fathom the idea that their nation can be more complex than the current situation where its just “oh we are in exile but still at total power. We can raid just as much lol.” For once yellow woman was right.

>> No.39316577

>>39316378
that does sound a bit foolish, but hopefully he learned his lesson from it at the very least. if those kinds of mistakes were such a big deal, we would be forced to put cunt in a straightjacket and toss him in a padded room to prevent him from doing the same, now wouldn't we? plus, honest mistakes happen. express them, make sure everyone knows why they were mistakes, figure out a solution to whatever problems might be preventing a resolution, and then implement the resolution. if this is a reoccurring problem, you must have failed to communicate it properly, else there must be something preventing him from properly implementing whatever resolution you guys agreed to, in which case a new one might be required, but if he is willing to change then he has the potential to be better, i would hope that would be how the rest of us view it at least.

>> No.39316613

>>39316559
Meat can do what they wish. Alice cannot say otherwise nor can the curse either.

>> No.39316679

>>39316613
No they cant lol. They arent this mary sue that can do whatever they want when it makes no sense at all. All yellow woman said imo was that things can be more complex than just gatekeeping meat forever.

>> No.39316712

>>39316679
>gatekeeping /meat/ forever
Do your reps.

>> No.39316728

>>39316679
if it was another anon, maybe it would ne reasonable but its ms. “All about me.” So keep in mind that her opinion never really should count nor should a newfag putting a curse on meat.

>> No.39316760

>>39316712
He is wrong but there is a point that you guys have just went “oh after 5 years its all good.” When if we use our actual time method its closer to 200 years now.

>> No.39316793

>>39316728
Fuck off apologist. When an indie thread dies, i dont see us going out of our way to protect them.

>> No.39316834

None of what you are saying matters anonymous because you arent a meat head. Let the MEATHEADS figure it out and all others can stay out. Yesterday proved that to me.

>> No.39316842

>>39316760
Not a meathead, just wanted to poke that guy for being wrong.

>> No.39316874

>>39316842
Well what of the point then?

>> No.39316913

>>39316760
It is clear that nations under janny assault are in limbo and have a forcefield of chuubanite around them. We arent going to invalidate any canon because you dont like it

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>>39316577
>we would be forced to put cunt in a straightjacket and toss him in a padded room to prevent him from doing the same, now wouldn't we?
Lol
Lmao
I'd like to you even attempt such an endeavor, my dude

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>>39272427
>I am currently waiting for Mister Money to get back to me on whether they have any rich guys on /inf/ that would be willing to invest into us.
Invest into what exactly? I dont seem to have seen a post about that.

>>39285667
>Advisor for Trade, chosen by a tournament of mahjong
I wonder whether the Hagu would like to partake in the annual mahjong world championship tournament held on the Isle of Hags (yes, i named it that before Hagchad even appeared. Its the island where and the nashags play mahjong) within the Serene republic.


also sorry pg, i didnt mean to strawman you, thats just how I understood and remembered that situation. Also sorry for being a retard in general

>> No.39316943

>>39316760
Ybc had a field up for 200 years fyi. Meat ringo and ag can have it up as long as they need to.

>> No.39316975

>>39316577
Cunt, however, brings stuff to the table that is good. I fail to see how z brings anything at all to warrant his opinion anywhere. Same with Og.

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>>39316942
Sanallite bakery business in /inf/

>> No.39317000

>>39316930
Temporal stuff has always been wonky but it might be good to look at it and see how it works in tandem with everything else.

>> No.39317007

>>39316760
It literally was never said that its all good. Quit strawmanning and do your fucking reps retard.

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>>39316975
>Same with Og.
And we went full circle again kek

>> No.39317320

>>39316577
PG, you literally are believing a schizo's narrative about something instead of doing your own reps. Please.

>> No.39317341

I still don't have an answer for what happens after those 5 years in the story.

>> No.39317377

>>39317341
Do you reps

>> No.39317391

>>39317377
*your
did my reps dumbass, there is literally nothing said about it. Quit derailing the conversation.

>> No.39317426

>>39317391
Read this
>Ybc had a field up for 200 years fyi. Meat ringo and ag can have it up as long as they need to.
That's your answer. As long as they need it. This is the nature of what jannies canonically do here.

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May I ask why our realm is becoming a hot topic? Furthermore, why am I, or any of us in general, were not cited every time you brought up your points?

>> No.39317711

>>39317320
sorry. would you mind making it a bit easier for me and giving some links?
>>39317525
are you referring to me? wdym?

>> No.39317783

>>39317711
I am referring to these bozos
>>39317341
>>39316760
>>39316679
>>39316559
>>39315533

>> No.39317826

>>39317525
Yellow woman here. I don't know why but I have a solution. Let's just have a discussion as a thread. Simple rules:
>1. No personal attacks, no insults, no strawmanning or that bs.
>2. I would like /meat/ to lay out on the table everything about the current status. So not one person can pretend that there is secret knowledge withheld.
>3. If you have opinions, withold them until /meat/ has laid out their side.
Overall, this is just going to fester if we don't at least know the full picture in an organized fashion. Any complaints can be addressed afterwards but if you complain, post a cute picture.

>> No.39317865

>>39317826
No

>> No.39317880

>>39317826
Why should they? Who cares what you want?

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>>39317525
>May I ask why our realm is becoming a hot topic?
Because I wanted to discuss it yesterday, simple as

>> No.39317914

>>39317826
No.

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>>39317826
Start with a list of questions about the issue at hand. I will try to answer them as objectively as possible. PG, Climeat, Founder, if you are present, will them give his side of the opinion.

>> No.39317961

>>39317921
I really just want to know what you guys have down first. Like first and foremost, what is the current situation and how did we get here lore wise?

>> No.39318055

stop blaming people foor a thing that has nothing to do with you, while Z did not handle that well, he also had the intent to make amends, he shoould jsut state it more clearly in future because i am certain if that is how he phrases apologies then other in the past might not have understood it as such either. also pg has state more than often enough now that he never intended to forbid hag from anything and jsut wanted it to be reworked better and was willing to help, the problem was that he forgets his effect oon people that do not know him and that the massive wall of text jsut was super intimidating and sounded hurtful when you are not used to him. sometimes stuff just hurts even if it never was intended as such. and i doubt hagchad wants anyone blamed for anything at all, give hagchad some time and see if he comes back on his own, only then can those things properly be talked out. until then, just get back to worldbuilding because i doubt that he would feel comfortable showing himself right now even if he was already back and loooked at thread.

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>>39317826
Good idea, i hope people would follow this.

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>>39317525
It began as a discussion on whether /feet/ chuubanite would exist since it wasn't really a general anymore (ironically feet has one up right now) which led to someone talking about why fetish threads still existed, which led to a debate that had the overall conclusion that if the fetish threads were considered to be in an interdimensional funk than in accordance with the general principle of representing vt, there would need to be a greater effort taken to write in accordance to your thread's behavior and core ideas.

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>>39317826
Please!

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>>39317961
Right now our situation is
1. As a thread we are currently zig-zagging between stealth threads and official threads. Stealth threads would survive longer and become unofficial embassies for non-/meat/ anons to learn about us. Named threads would usually last half a day before their deletion.
2. As fetishposters, we post almost anywhere on the board. From here, the meatzokus, /inf/, Shondo threads, etc. Also overall there has been a huge spike in /meat/ sympathisers in other threads thanks to recent events involving (((them))).
3. We are also using other means to discuss such as /trash/ or visiting /ringo/ and /ag/ at /d/

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>>39318216
How are we currently portraying this in world ?I sort of know the answer but everything on the table.

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is it safe yet?

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>>39318580
No.

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>>39318580
Squirrelman, its never safe with me around for you.

>> No.39318718

>>39318216
>Named threads would usually last half a day before their deletion.
That is a severe overstatement, more like 2 hours before deletion on average.

>> No.39318837

>>39317525
hey, i might get banned for something completely unrelated, if that happens please look for me in the gc thread
>>39317783
sorry, i think i tend to assume they are honest until i realize they aren't. i'm dumb.
>>39317921
>PG, Climeat, Founder, if you are present, will them give his side of the opinion.
desu, i gave my opinion last thread, and it's mostly that i think the alternative dimension stuff makes a lot of sense with our lore. second to that would be a somewhat scattered nation under occupation and frequent bombardment of jannies. i'll differ to the idea that represents it the best in my opinion, and we have said that places like /trash/ are other dimensions, just like /jp/, so the interdimensional stuff makes sense. i wouldn't say it makes sense for the whole nation, but i could see pockets of /meat/ having some weird physics going on.
>>39318216
i would like to bring up the fact that /meat/ isn't just a fetish thread. we are one of the relatively rare (though slowly growing. please remember that /meat/ was here first, lol) "hybrid threads" so to speak. we have our own niche chuubas that only really fit within our niche, but we also discuss our fetish, so it's between a fetish thread, and a chuuba/indie corp(s) thread, for lack of a better way to describe it.
>>39318718
depends on the time. some threads last over half a day, some last 10 minutes, it depends on if the janny is around. they aren't always, but they get more vigilant the more named threads we have.

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>>39318256
Right now the nation in-universe is currently going through status-quo. Being visited by acquaintances, business is thriving, diplomacy, etc.
I believe most of our depiction takes place at around the start era, 1120 - 1130 VTE.
Right now /meat/'s status-quo is 'setting'. Not plot progression. Depictions of our realm under attack and banished have not yet begin. Tales of diplomacy with new writers and stories are possible if they are written as taking place anywhere before the end of the 1130's.
Our recent interaction with /moon/ and /hag/ could have happened in-universe in-between the late 1090's to the early 1110's. The period in which our world 'officially' begin its age of exploration.

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>>39319480
Very well. I think that is about what we need to know considering we know what Founder's story is. Let's talk about the janny situation. When the Jannies strike, we can assume the 5 year chuubanite wall since that is canon. But when that ends, how do you guys want to handle it? PG has already given his opinion on this.

>> No.39319617

>>39318837
True. If the thread was made at a certain time zone, it will last half a day.
All in all proving that our stalker is within EU or NA time

>> No.39319693

>>39319617
why are mutts and europoors such obsessive cunts sometimes? lol.

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>>39319575
I really am curious here.

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>>39318622
is that a threat or a promise? Im not wearing pants.

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>>39319839
A threat. I am not wearing any either.

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>>39319860
What would you do to me? Pic related?

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>>39319955
No, you are unclean and a dude. Not even a cute one either.

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>>39319575
>But when that ends, how do you guys want to handle it? PG has already given his opinion on this.
I would believe that it would not be a prosperous era. As the story depicted that it was the loss of our chuuba that briefly gave us a window of ease.
>Janny attacks
Will be much more frequent. Akin to a weekly or monthly natural disaster. Small villages would be abandoned and populations moved to key safe locations. The 'dimensional prison' barrier would make its return alongside the usual attacks. Perhaps not as long, but they will happen. Like a natural disaster one have to live with where the realm would suddenly be imprisoned for a month. Making foreign trade much more riskier as access to /meat/ is unpredictable.
>Homeland
The situation would be akin to living next door to the Mongols or Europe in the age of revolutions. Danger is close by and the zeitgeist will switch to defense and survivability.
>Foreign influence
As per the tale, the foreign network of traders, priests, and spies will be reformed into an emergency government in-exile. This depiction lines up well with our current methods of posting in foreign threads and taking over bait threads. In-universe, any diplomacy towards /meat/ will be prioritised to the embassies and its network initially to account for any inaccessibility to the homeland.

This is but my depiction and theories. The others can provide with theirs.

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>>39319992
Rude, i just took a shower, i am at least average looking, and you got me really horny so take responsibility. Im half tempted to write smut right now about you dominating me right now but I have an actual lore doc to do.

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>>39320039
I see i see. So I think we can open up for questions and I have two personally.

What happens to traders inside this dimensional prison? and furthermore, how are we accounting for such things as the foreign assets already there?

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>>39320137
Oh yeah squirrelman? it seems like you enjoy thinking of my cock more than doing lore.
>>39320185
>>39320039
Im waiting for this question to be answered before I ask.

>> No.39320283

Hey there!
I'm YBC anon.
Truth to be told I wanted to help here, but I got wrapped in real life shit.
I was told thatthere are intentions to change our lore, and I absolutely denounce and oppose anyone on that.
Yubicraft culture is our own. We have always worked in this way, and will continue to do so.
If you don't like it, or think it'snot cool enoough, then join Yubicraft, play with us and change it from within, if you can.

I wanted to wait till I finished it, but here's a halfway contribution to show I'm still commited. Part of the local lore turned into a Tragedy play!

https://rentry.org/BOOMEUSEXILED

>> No.39320311

>>39320283
>I was told thatthere are intentions to change our lore, and I absolutely denounce and oppose anyone on that.
No one at all intended that and it was a total misunderstanding.

>> No.39320313

>/meat/rep steps in
>arguments stop
Well would you look at that

>> No.39320353

>>39320283
dunno who told you that, but that was no ones intention from what i can see, your lore only came up because /meat/ created something based on it in regards to the exile

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>>39320247
Nigger. Half the time I write lore im either masturbating or thinking of sex. They dont call me a coombrain for no reason. how big is it?

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>>39320379
Write lore with me nigger and maybe you can find out.

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>>39320439
Ok. So let us do this. Shall we say Risuners just show up in a boat at some point?

>> No.39320535

>>39320503
Where at and when? Also why kek.

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>>39320535
>where
ill determine a landing point
>when
lets say 1131 VTE
>why
because we fucking can thats why.

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>>39320283
Dont worry, you're projected. It was never on the table to change ybc lore, you're good block bro.

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>>39320618
Ok take a look at my map and tell me where.

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>>39320185
>What happens to traders inside this dimensional prison
I would it will be similar to being in a war or plague. Forced to stay within the borders until the signal is given. In this case traders heading off to the mainland would have to prepare a failsafe plan for if the land closes up.
I would see foreign nations opting to use /meat/-aligned individuals as traders for they have no qualms to be stuck here for a month when the janny monsoon kicks in.
/meat/ goods would also spike in prices due to the dangers and periods of availability. Spices, fruits, exotic goods, will be stockpiled within the exile periods, ready to be shipped out in bulk the moment people are able to leave.
>how are we accounting for such things as the foreign assets already there
As per the law and culture of honour, they will not be nationalised by either of the states or the realm federation. However I do not know whether any damages done to them by janny attacks will be compensated. I assume this will be up to writers. But rest assured just because access to the outside world is closed off we will not blame the /nasfaqg/ or /2434/ visitors and put them on the altars. Although some opportunistic individuals might use this chance to influence the foreigners stuck with us.

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>>39320691
possible landing points

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>>39320728
Im actually really curious about infinity in this given your connections, as well as your own fleet. How is that being handled and furthermore do you think your own fleet and army have suffered major defeats????

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>>39320821
Squirrelman, one of those spots is in the middle of the desert with nothing around it kek. Land at Temesiensis. It's our main western port.

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Okay, I looked up the deal, and apparently I was grossly missinformed.

As for the whole "dimensional prison" I made for /ybc/, it's left vague on purpose. Besidesbeing a tool for theoriesand crazy religious tales, it also reflects how in actual Yubicraft nobody really remembers what the /vm/ months were like since a lot of people stopped playing.
I suggest /meat/bros to not link their vansihing to ours if they try to explain it, instead making it a different brand of jannie madness.

That said, I'm honoured that this silly gimmick is being accpeted by other troubled countries!

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>>39283111
Oh right, anchoring this.
https://rentry.org/BOOMEUSEXILED

It's the retelling of the Nekko's Trail of Tears, the banishment of Nekkos from their settling place, which was decided by a 1 v 1 duel to the death on the cliffs of Nenepro (which actually happened, as cinematic as it sounds).
Since the setting of /ybc/ is heavily greek inspired, I thought it would be fun to format it and write it as agreek tragedy play!

>> No.39321262

>>39320919
Well if you insist. Does Temesiensis have cool shit? Details available? tell me shit moonboi

>> No.39321290

>>39320283
Oh by the way, how would you feel about an Archiect migration to ybc?

>> No.39321336

>>39321262
Boy. Mepman is reworking my whole map. I have no clue what is there right now. I know more about my east than west anyways!

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>>39320826
>Im actually really curious about infinity in this given your connections, as well as your own fleet.
Repeat the question?
>do you think your own fleet and army have suffered major defeats
Yes!
- Marine conflict
The Black Fleet has been able to thwart us time and time again, alongside the newly conceived Knight Order. The Gulf is also a hotspot for other rival activities. We may have some /nasfaqg/ privateers against us, crossed paths with /ahoy/ pirates and /watamelon/ corsairs. I think we are also open to underwater attacks by /ggg/. Which is an important factor as our trade island is next to /ggg/.
As for our viking raids, nations with established counterespionage and inquisition activity will be able to disrupt our information network, leading to failed or dismal raids. Such examples in the Gulf are /morig/ with their Goddess Faithful inquisitions and Towa being a hivemind.
- Land conflict
I believe that our land army is our weakness as there were no major histories of us being aggressive to our southern neighbours. I think we are on friendly terms with /hfz/ based on Founder's story. Land conflict would usually involve schizo invasions either inland or from the seas. With our priority on marine conflict, our terrestrial army would mostly be composed of marines. Able to aid in raids or landing invasions, but nothing beyond the coast.
>>39320923
I see. I'll relay this to Founder when he returns.

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>>39321527
I think it might be wise to hold off on some of the ybc stuff just for the sake of founder. If I am correct, Infinity has a naval base in meat correct? How is it effected.

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Cunt do you have an updated hydrology map of both /rrat/ and /who/? If not then I (and 3beat) think there should be a ridge in the middle that separates the northern drainage that goes into /uuu/ and the southern one that goes into the sea.

>> No.39321762

>>39321144
God I need to get in ybc that shit sounds dope

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>>39321660
That one is obvious. They would be stuck with us too.
Mothballed at the docks until the gates are open.
In my opinion, it would not be a wasted period. Since there appears to be a perimeter of traversable sea, training with the local navies may happen.
/inf/ diplomats and other officials that were with us would be given a place to stay and have to work at their embassy for the time being. I believe that embassies and trade offices would be turned into de-facto governments to coordinate foreigners.

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Ok i am going to give meatbros time to figure out wtf is going on because this dimensional shit sounds like its a bad investment for me. Meppa, post my map and show the Squirrel where he should land.

>> No.39322146

>>39322090
Moonbro
Not everything takes place in real time
This takes place around 1140-ish. When the jannies went menhera and nuked us fetish threads

>> No.39322182

>>39322146
I meant for the future of the deal my friend.

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>>39321682
>hydrology map of both /rrat/ and /who/?
Never started on /who/ and no plans to do /rrat/. Also caught me at a bad time, at work rn. I can fix it in like uhhhh....6-7 hours.
If you got clip studio I can also just send you the entire file so you can make corrections yourself.

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>>39322090
here, i have nothing named and idk if i am done terrain but i think i am.

>> No.39322355

>>39322252
Not urgent so it can wait a bit. Also it's not gonna be very tall. Definitely won't exceed the original altitude in the world map, so like ~600m above the surrounding terrain.

>> No.39322377

>>39322281
thanks Meppa, OGcoomer, you can land... idk at that big river in the west.

>> No.39322479

meatbro's no nonsense writing really contrasted greatly with everything else in here. I understand why everyone immediately goes monkey mode when he's gone!!!

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>>39322355
Could also expand it like so and alter the river a bit.

>> No.39322531

>>39322479
Uh, i think yellow woman was pretty important in sorting this out too kek.

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>>39322482
Ah the purple lines are by 3beat. ignore the blue ones. Also as you can guess circles are lakes. The big river supposedly takes that route because the terrain looks like it's been cut by a river trunk(though of course river changing course is relatively common).

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>>39321290
Currently, Fifth age of /ybc/, it's open to anyone who wants to make the trip, on the understanding that they are subject to the laws of every town. What's legal in one place, is not legal in another 2 kms away!
A group of Architects individually inhabiting /ybc/ is already something that has happened, particularly dragoons who are big on "architecture" (That's not a joke on fat Selen, that's their unironic culture)

As an organized group, I guess it would be different. They'd have to claim land and disassociate from /ag/ completely like every other polis here that migrated from another country.
>>39321762
Be welcome, bro
There's lore for days for anywone looking into it!

>> No.39323020

>>39322377
i will try to add some names moonafic.

>> No.39323145

>>39322720
Yea, I'll take an actual look once I get home and can see the map in full res. I'll see what I can do.

>> No.39323554
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>>39322720
Actually ya know what, and I can't believe I'm saying this send me the invite link once I get home and get mountain to set up a vc so I can stream the process. It'll be done real quick if I get feedback in real time

>> No.39323771

>>39323554
Eh search in the archive I guess. Was made in early sept

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i just took a nap and woke up again. waddup sluts.

>> No.39323946

>>39323771
are they permanent links tho?

>> No.39324160

>>39323946
apparently not. pqNsPq5

>> No.39324690
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so that river touching titty mountains on the right. can i land there?

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>>39324690
No, its a holy site for one. I have other reasons I haven't thought elaborated but if you need a better i can try. Imagine us asking to see the tree of risu.

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>>39324828
well then thats a no. would you like to suggest a few landing sites yourself beside the one you said before?

>> No.39325275

>>39325038
wait, i have no issue with landing at the river, but you cannot go to the mountains.

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>>39325275
>>39325038
>>39325275
I think since neither of you give too many details I will step in. The risuners are being trained to be sailors so we take them down and since Moonafic and me are allies, they are allowed to visit inside moon on a break.

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>>39325442
Good with me, Meppa. Why not in the north then near our border? Seems like getting to the cake immediately would make OG bored. Gotta tease him a bit you know?

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>>39325605
Works for me, and makes more sense that way.

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sounds all good to me

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>>39325783
perfect, I will get the details for our end OG soon enough. Moonafic, I have the plan to make your north into creole or Louisianan if that makes sense? Maybe your nation as a whole even. Seems like it fits.

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>>39325848
Meppa you sexy bastard. I love this idea, Latin-French? Sounds cool to me!!

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>>39325996
>Latin-French
>French is a Romance Language derived from Latin.
I cannot tell you how disappointed I am in your stupidity sometimes....

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>>39326111
Now wait a minute meppa, I knew that! I meant that perhaps our high culture is more latin and some cities near V7 have latin names!!!

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>>39326291
It's not hard for me to believe you would think otherwise, my son. Now you better not pull any dumbshit like showing off Risuner slaves or I will bonk you.

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>>39326400
Aww shucks, our people aren't that stupid Meppa!
>son
damn...

>> No.39326497

>showing off risuner slaves
Oh please do kek, hell offer them some as a gift

>> No.39326500
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>>39326483
fucking kek

>> No.39326707

So is Moonafic an apprentice under Mep now?

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>>39326707
Unfortunately, both him and OG are my sons at this point.

>> No.39326911
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Oiseau Cruise with Risu!

Starts at Port-des-Barques on April 2nd 1133

Our ultimate goal is just training the squirrels, and we stop at Port-la-Nouvelle in Deuxlunesia during this extended cruise. We will arrive sometime in June.

Aboard the 24 gun Corvette “Ambuscade”, commander Capitaine de corvette Philippe-Auguste de Boucé.

OG, make up your crew from the Southerners. Remember that aspect and make them eager sea dogs that are mere puppies now.

Moonafic, think about how this would work on your end culturally given that you ENSLAVE them. How would your sailors or city dwellers treat them.

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>>39326911
Ok, I will consider these questions but I also want to cause problems potentially somehow.

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>>39327036
Issues may be cause, but they shall not be getting anyone hurt.

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>>39327100
Oh Meppa, never planned it! Just a little mischief, and maybe some mean words. You know how things are!

>> No.39327261

>>39327188
Good, that is good to know and I need to know exactly what you plan before it happens. Too many times I have seen OG make this mistake!

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>>39327036
>but I also want to cause problems potentially somehow.
why you tease me like this? can there at least be a horny scene?

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>>39327314
No horny scene yet but racism will happen.

>> No.39327543
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okay moonafic, here is your map thus far accounting for the executive decision we made.

>> No.39327689

>>39327543
Very nice!

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alright Moonafic, its done for today.

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>>39321144
Damn, kino. I think that's our first piece of lore laid out like a greek play, good stuff. I like how you can namedrop all those locations from the server, really makes the world feel filled out.
>>39323554
eggpost soon?

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>>39329066
only if the vc will be waiting for me when I get on in about 3 hours.

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>>39330100
It's already there, we made one for TTRPG (actually was for Mahjong).

>> No.39330674

Wont /meat/ enjoy having a world war because it's technically a giant sacrificial ritual?

>> No.39331911

I spent too much time watching cappybara videos I want more cute animals.

>> No.39332732

>>39331911
Baby hippos?

>> No.39333197

>>39332732
Hmm... I want original cute specbio animals.

>> No.39334890

>>39333197
So make them.

>> No.39335173

>>39334890
I'd love to but I have no general to write for.

>> No.39335893

>>39335173
And?

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>>39335173
If you get any ideas for Moriji animals, feel free to throw them at me. Even if they're Sana inspired, Sana is pretty popular here. Maybe something inspired by the shiny hunt.

>> No.39336701

>>39335893
No permission, no lore.

>>39336000
Whatever happened to Boner Kong, the giant skeleton monkey?

>> No.39337075
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>>39336701
He's right there, in my backlog of stuff to write about. Hmm, maybe he could pop up in the next Lunaito thing.
He's not very cute though.

>> No.39337354

>>39336701
And why would animals need to be tied to a nation?

>> No.39337543

>>39337354
they dont need to, but trying to create a multiregional animal comes with the issue of stepping on the boundaries of multiple writers, and you ought to know how autistic that gets

>> No.39337727

>>39337354
If I don't have permission to write anything then I leave people alone. If you keep spouting worthless opinions and ideas nobody asks for then you'll get slugged in the face and kicked out, autistic retard.

>>39337075
Giant bone ape sitting in hotsprings is kind of cute.

>> No.39337739

>>39337543
I kinda want those, they sound neat

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>>39337727
That's true, it is kind of cute.

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>>39337543
But other writers can go fuck themselves

>> No.39337989

>>39337727
So why are you still here then, if you don't have a general?

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>>39337727
If you'd like to write a little thing about Boner Kong, I'd love that. I can help with specbio and edit the entry.
>39337989
Eat lead, nigger.

>> No.39338208

>>39337543
This. Migratory animals that take place in multiple nations at least needs permission. Though these kinds of animals are rare as there's miles/kilometers between borders. The mammoths in /nasa/ migrate between schizo wastes and the border cedar forest. Sometimes young wander into /uuu/ in winter but will get eaten by forest predators. Still they didn't wander far enough most of the time for a shared entry. The animals I can think of that might need nation permissions are migratory birds and sea life.

>> No.39340303

>>39338208
A general rule is that they really shouldn't cause actually major issues i think.

>> No.39340425

Wait wait wait. Why was yellow bitch allowed to dictate any conversation? She is the worst person in this thread, and you willing let yourselves bend the knee to her? Why are you listening to her, Lunaito? She is a woman and everything she says is wrong and you need to challenge it.

>> No.39340588

>>39328684
Lookin' good Meppa! I already have a lot of slurs ready since this area is prime cotton country and this treerrats will be a surprise to the sophisticated and proper folk over in the quaint city of Port-la-Nouvelle.

>> No.39340731

>>39340588
Mind sharing some of those love?

>> No.39340970

>>39340425
t. Alice

>> No.39341712
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39341712

>>39340731
Was hoping someone would ask!
>Darkey
>Treenigger
>Treerrat
>Half-beasts
>Jakun
>Jamet
>Jungle Rrat
>Jungle Nigger
>Spade
>Spear Fucker
>Nutsucker
>Possum
>Booger
>Burrhead
>Zipcoon
>Fluffies
>Furries
>Cumbrain
>Kangs
>Gopher
>poacher
>Goose fondler
>Minnie willies.

>> No.39341870

>>39340970
>t. Alice.

>> No.39341929

>>39341712
Use some of these in a sentence love.

>> No.39342030

>>39341929
Lookey over there at that darkey! I wonder if he'll play us a little tune about life back in booga land with the other jungle rrats. C'mon treenigger, put on a show for us or w'll kill yer ass.

>> No.39342144

>>39342030
ngl made me chuckle a little bit, gw.

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39344221

>>39341712
>Possum

>> No.39344735
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39344735

Aight, hydrology done

Full file as requested:
https://files.catbox.moe/ajob15.clip

>> No.39345502
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39345502

>specbio talk
>i just watched that new avatar movie and saw ALL the fishes
Hello gentlemen

>> No.39345658

>>39345502
Shit, that finally came out? Is it any good?

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39345731

>>39345658
i liked it.

>> No.39348575

bump

>> No.39349038

apologize z

>> No.39353088

So does Risu have any cute pettable animals? Even if they're dangerous?

>> No.39353181 [DELETED] 

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>> No.39353561
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39353561

>>39353088
You can probably pet the geese, once. Feathers are pretty fluffy. You can pet the Risuners too, they're cute.

>> No.39353952

>>39353561
I heard that risuners fondle their geese. Disturbing if true.

>> No.39359550

bump

>> No.39359668

>>39353952
The geese like it.

>> No.39360658

I wonder if a petting zoo in Vitubia is possible. But then again people were retarded about keeping wild animals until the 20th century. Even now we're still retarded.

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39360732

the geese eat people.....but i guess

>> No.39362708

>>39360732
Tigers eat people too. So do sharks sometimes. You can pet those.

>> No.39367216

insomnia bump

>> No.39370919

bump

>> No.39373517

bump

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