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Awoo! Edition

>What is /wvt/?
/wvt/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss English-speaking VTubers.

Include a picture and a link so we know who they are and how to watch!

>Twitch Clips Guide
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>Koikatsu cards
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>Ref Sheets
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>Post in case of Twitter/Discord drama:
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>Chickens
https://www.twitch.tv/ourchickenlife

>Current Thread Aggie
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>Thread Cytube
https://cytu be/r/wvt-watchalong

>Previous thread
>>39159220

>> No.39178956
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sneep

>> No.39178972

Ritualpost

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https://clips.twitch.tv/PatientSolidSwanOSsloth-K7Qs1RTuDvQp2OsU

"Half Life 2 at 70% speed slimegirl"
dozo~

>> No.39179043
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what a good dog UN UN UN UN UN

https://www.twitch.tv/negnasu

>> No.39179099
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https://www.twitch.tv/powernelson
nelson denny's

>> No.39179161

>>39177943
>>39178497
I don't remember who this chuuba speaking is

>> No.39179178
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Double posting for first impression thoughts.

Vseeface, btw.

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for me its the bat

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Unpopular opinion, Mimi is annoying and makes every collab she's in about herself. I can't watch Mint and Mimi collabs for this reason. She talks over Mint every time.

>> No.39179268

>>39179161
I'm your therapist monitoring you outside of treatment, anon. Text me.

>> No.39179278
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Personally I feel as though I'm being forgotten throughout this community, which is understandable considering I don't put out much content or interact with others to begin with. There isn't much I feel I can add to a discussion or conversation that people haven't already said. Not Kimi by the way.

>> No.39179372

>>39179099
Nelson is a massive faggot.

>> No.39179399

>>39179278
the only thing you can do is put yourself out there. this is an anonymous imageboard. you are literally invisible if you stay lurking. same for other social media.

>> No.39179454

Imagine grooming a viewer to be the perfect viewer just to raid his next oshi.

>> No.39179471
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https://www.twitch.tv/skylerreach/clip/ClumsyCrunchyOysterBabyRage-2sX5FzBDM4y74EDa?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time

>> No.39179475
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love me saffas

>> No.39179497

>>39179206
Making everything about yourself is proof that you're conscious and possess a human soul.
Powerful pussy aura.

>> No.39179584

>>39179278
your memory lives and dies by the content you put out, yeah
unless you're a viewer, then you just have to make an effort to interact with other viewers. i for one am kinda glad that i get forgotten sometimes, trying to stay engaged all the time is just too tiring to be worth it

>> No.39179624

>>39179278
Put out content at your own, consistent pace. Then slowly upgrade the outpout. It's just like exercise. A healthy routine takes time to make, to maintain and sometimes remake. Keep moving forward.

>> No.39179707

Let's go over the rules of vtubing.

1. Femchuubas can reach partner easily if they put in the work. Emulate the chuubas who've reached partner and you can too.

2. Twitter interaction means nothing.

3. Only males call this industry a hobby. No femchuubas worth their CCV actually consider this to be a hobby.

4. Femchuubas shouldn't interact with males. They're all sexpest schizos who can't handle being eternal 0views.

5. Vtubing is and will always be female. Males are a fad and will never gain any lasting traction without corporate help or a history before becoming chuuba.

6. Games don't matter. No one actually watches streamers for gameplay. It's a cope males use to justify their dead air and boring personalities. Vtubers are made for zatsudans, not gaming!

7. Males are always backup streamers, never a first choice. If a male has chatters and viewers it's because their oshis aren't streaming right now.

8. Males will rarely ban you for traumadumping in their chats. This has been extensively tested by yours truly over multiple months.

9. If you're not having fun or getting anything out of this you should quit. You will not be missed.

10. Everyone is a schizo, sexpest, or leech until proven otherwise. Trust no one. Live in the woods. Buy a shotgun.

11. /mvp/ is full of fags.

>> No.39179796

>>39179278
What community?
/wvt/ died a long time ago. This thread is 90% /asp/ies picking its bones clean, 5% faggots like ray0 with nothing better to do, and 5% abandoned darlings who won't move on.

>> No.39179801

>>39179471
Why is she a nazi now

>> No.39179848
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>>39179278
You might be forgotten "throughout the community" but the people you've affected won't forget you that easily. Never underestimate how much a nice piece of fanart or even just a kind word can affect someone months or years down the line.

>> No.39179904

i miss rebelearthsky

>> No.39179958

>>39179796
ray tells me he left

>> No.39180016

>>39179848
Only if you're a femchuuba. Males deserve to be used and thrown away.

>> No.39180037

boymouse erotic stretching sounds..

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https://www.twitch.tv/cloverchibi
clover's on with some art!

>> No.39180165

>>39179958
he left long before trash died

>> No.39180190

>>39179958
dyrbi? he wasn't attached to the real thread like some of us (naturally, being unprincipled and pathetic as he is) so I doubt he didn't migrate
surely you don't believe he went on to be gainfully employed and not watching livestreams all day/being a reply guy on twitter

>> No.39180254

rebelearthsky erotic stretching sounds...

>> No.39180381

sex with viewers

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>>39179796
I love this thread bottom energy, Jaycee, Tamero and Ray0 is one of a kind that I will never have a chance to get close to no matter how many cord I browse in /lgbt/ and /soc/ they all always turned out ugly because they tried too hard to be woman

>> No.39180477

>>39180412
what the fuck anon

>> No.39180551

>>39180412
strange and bizarre post, actualrealfagchama
i zozd thanks hope you find some good hole

>> No.39180725

>>39180412
cute pic

>> No.39180764

I can fix her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4V3Mo61fJM

>> No.39180781

>>39180412
it looks like you can take her clothes off and undress her is that actually possible can you do that for me and taje a picture

>> No.39180870

How do I grow my community and get more new viewers?

>> No.39180888

Which viewers have bottom energy?

>> No.39180904

>>39180870
1. Be a femchuuba
That's it

>> No.39181066

>>39180870
Hire professional chatters who are easy get along with. Avoid discord. Avoid twitter. Gatekeep the gatekeeping groomers out. Simple as.

>> No.39181163

>>39179278
>Not Kimi by the way.
why would kimi say this...

>> No.39181177

>>39180888
me!

>> No.39181310

>>39179178
are you me? also not kimi btw

>> No.39181334

>>39180888
>>39181177
do you just have to be gay to get digits on this board what the fuck is with today
checked i guess

>> No.39181406

>>39180904
god i wish it was that fucking easy

>> No.39181611

>>39181334
i’m not gay, i only bottom for women

>> No.39182230

>>39179278
something bad that vtubing does is make you want to become a part of a community and make friends
no matter how much you interact with the streamer and other viewers as a viewer, you aren't going to make friends unless you actively work to do it through becoming a vtuber yourself and/or making your own community
one of the big genuine negatives of vtubing I think is convincing a bunch of people that gave up on making real friends years ago that they might be able to find some through this medium

>> No.39182338

Can straight men be power bottoms?

>> No.39182388

>>39180870
be smart with your raids
if you're raiding someone that's already 5 hours into their stream there's going to be a shitton of overlap, you're basically asking their viewers to pick between someone they already like vs a complete unknown
meanwhile if you raid towards the start of someone's stream, you're not forcing viewers to pick you over their current streamer for that timeslot
also, hang out in streams that end near to when you begin your stream to get a similar effect. chuubas are always looking for new raid targets, unless they're deliberately keeping their viewers from other streamers (which is not that common, thankfully)

>> No.39182583

>>39182338
with mother issues

>> No.39182964

>>39182583
I have those!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zux2iIqv7t0

She sings so good UN UN

>> No.39183156

I love vtubing and have had a great 2022 because of it. I hope you've had a good 2022 as well /wvt/.

>> No.39183298

How do args get any views whatsoever if promoting them breaks any and all immersion?

>> No.39183448

Why are female VTubers so terrible at shooting games?

>> No.39183601

>>39183448
they're too used to real guns

>> No.39183702

>>39183448
they play with controllers

>> No.39183769

>>39183298
People like a good mystery

>> No.39183832

>>39183769
Why respond if you were going to intentionally miss the point of the post

>> No.39184152

Why didn’t Geega raid Nina’s debut today?

>> No.39184203

>>39184152
Holosister spotted

>> No.39184237

>>39184152
Pretty sure she got raided by GEEGA, Shondo, and a bunch of other people as soon as she started.

>> No.39184271

There's a vtuber I really want to date, but I'm not sure if she has time.

>> No.39184280

>>39175463
Sorry for not being a self-hating ugly bastard like you

>> No.39184315

>>39184271
She doesn't because I'm already dating her.

>> No.39184318

>>39184203
It’s weird that she streamed to double the viewers after Nina already started and never raided. Nina even included art of her in the debut too.

>> No.39184369

>>39184318
It's weird how much of a raging faggot you are

>> No.39184373

>>39184237
Geega and Shondo both streamed during the debut without raiding her.

>> No.39184453

There's a vtuber who I think wants to date me, but I'm really not interested, and she's to much of a coward to directly give me the opportunity to reject her.

>> No.39184485

>>39181406
Skill issue. Do a better job of leading your simps.

>> No.39184536

>>39184373
shondo raided her at the very start. she very specifically streamed early for the sole purpose of raiding nina, then proceeded to cheer her on until her on. later at her usual stream times she started her own stream, and then nina raided into her.

>> No.39184555
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https://www.twitch.tv/calliecalico
house arrest magical girl's committing genocide against the robots in megaman legends!

>> No.39184610

>>39184536
Then what about Geega? That makes less sense since they’re in the same group. I never saw her in chat either.

>> No.39184622

>>39184280
shoo skinwalker

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>>39183601
Don't call me out like this. Besides, my last kill was with a bow.

>> No.39184663

>>39184610
as far as I remember geega was still streaming by the time nina ended. they're not an agency or a corpo.

>> No.39184666

>>39184610
She was in the chat.
Enough schizophrenia, I'm not going to hunt through the VOD for proof otherwise.

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SOVL

>> No.39184856

>>39184663
>they're not an agency or a corpo
a lot of people really don't understand this about small chuubas, even ones in "groups" (which as far as nina and geega goes I'm pretty sure it's really just a monhun guild and nina is bat's +1)

>> No.39185061

>>39184663
>>39184856
They are friends that support each other when they can. Thats better than most setups.

>> No.39185173

>>39180037
that's nice, but I don't follow Canadian streamers.

>> No.39185427

Lyka is lurking this thread. Prove me wrong.

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>>39182230
My experience has been pretty in the middle.

Do I think I'd receive even more opportunities at friendships just because I turn on OBS once a week with a 25 dollar commissioned PNG? Yes.

Do I think it's classism or the "vtuber status" doing the heavy lifting? No (not denying it happens but I consider it minor).

Spending individual time with someone online substantiates you as a real thing instead of a concept. Being a vtuber provides that opportunity to happen easily, without having to stand out in a collective like discord or a twitch chat.

Once you're "real" in another persons mind, any interactions you make will hold weight they can quantify. Each person can then consider investing more. every interaction ties a new thread of empathy to each other, making it more and more difficult to cut.

Humans are simple and it's very difficult for them to quantify masses of information. Subitizing is a good way to explain it. We know the concept of one million, but we do not actually understand one million. Some empathize with a homeless person when seeing them before their very eyes, but not the same emotional pain from millions of those starving elsewhere.

I have the disposition to stand out in collectives so I've made friends without trying. Brainstorm ways to interact with someone one on one without it feeling forced or creating strange power dynamics. You don't have to be a vtuber or draw, it's just the most common response because people aren't creative.

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https://www.twitch.tv/miyuyus
ditzy sloth's doing her schedule before going on valorant

>> No.39186260

>>39185977
You believe me right Hachaama? You believe that Lyka is lurking the thread?

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>> No.39186492

Creative ways to establish self as an individual in chuubasphere outside becoming a vtuber or drawer?
>inb4 chat good, not creative

>> No.39186530

>>39186492
clipping and making music

>> No.39186875

>>39186492
Become a rebelearthsky viewer the way AriaRinChan and her fellow feNPC's watch Jerma. You can be quirky without seeming like everyone else.

>> No.39186952

>>39179848
I want to write a pessimistic post as a reply to this but I am holding back

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>>39185977
My job makes 1 on 1 conversations uncomfortable when 2 people are in one space it means it's time for me to tell that person they disappoint the company and families and must lower their expectations and start over at the age of 30 somewhere else.
It's crazy how efficient zoomer is even working at home and downsizing the office has no impact.

>> No.39187073

https://youtu.be/XEEasR7hVhA
Dubyabweeteeee

>> No.39187091

>>39186981
What anime is this?

>> No.39187247

>>39187091
Digimon Ghost Game.

>> No.39187284

>>39186492
>no chuuba reviewer youtuber viewer
>no custom chatbot dev that accepts requests for new commands viewer
>no gamedev that added you to their gamejam project, basically obligating you to play it even if it's shit viewer
>no needs an interview with an online personality for a college project viewer
When will they get creative...

>> No.39187344

>>39187284
This post was made by the vtuber Lyka. Prove me wrong.

>> No.39187366
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https://www.twitch.tv/carmine_ch
cool chuuni's playing zelda oracle of ages!

>> No.39187406

Have you ever been a super fan of a vtuber you don't watch follow or subscribe to? Self posters made me this way.

>> No.39187491

>>39187406
I don't follow anybody because it's not networking if it's not my chuuba account and I don't want to be schizo'd about who I follow or don't follow.

>> No.39187500

>>39179278
>Kimi
>Forgotten
>Ever
What the fuck do you know how often she is talked about?

>> No.39187505

>>39187406
I don’t really watch Letania much, but I do always root for the little autist.

>> No.39187509

>>39187491
ogey Lyka...

>> No.39187562

>>39180412
I understand JC and Tammy but Ray?

>> No.39187595

>>39187406
All the time

>> No.39187600

Lyka is so cool brethren...
Cat girls are fairly normal, but she's a Lynx!

>> No.39187799

>>39184661
>Dish is half corn
Canada?

>> No.39187844

>>39187600
like floppa....

>> No.39187959

>>39187844
floppa is a canal curcao cur a a curso a a cursive carso cars car a carsal or something

>> No.39188019

What am I doing

>> No.39188115

>>39188019
my mom you rapist

>> No.39188151

How much do you want to cuddle? What would you sacrifice?

>> No.39188163
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>>39188115
TOO DRY

>> No.39188226

>>39187959
carousel

>> No.39188348
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I love my hag, bros.

>> No.39188382
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Odette is live!
https://www.twitch.tv/odette_balbc

>> No.39188433

>>39188382
finally

girlmouse

>> No.39188446

>>39179206
What the fuck are you talking about

>> No.39188492

>>39188382
yay schizo mouse!!

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>>39188382
I LOVE THIS MOUSE

>> No.39188509

>>39188382
nasty rat cunt
find another thread to post her

>> No.39188533

>>39188433
What if Odette and Clauvio had sex?

>> No.39188545

>>39188499
anon, that's clauvio...

>> No.39188565
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSqbhmonhxs

NEG NASU ORIGINAL SONG UN UN UN UN

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>>39188348
She's not your hag. Also, bitch smells like latex.

>> No.39188621

>>39188565
>moonrunes
I sleep

>> No.39188638

>>39188382
MY COCK
COCKKKK

>> No.39188654

>>39188621
The subtitles work now.

>> No.39188672

>>39188654
And?

>> No.39188679

>>39188509
How about you buy a irl thread and put it around your neck, faggot.

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>> No.39188710

>>39186981
>and start over at the age of 30 somewhere else
didn't need to see that today (even if it's under different circumstances)

>> No.39188754

>>39188509
can we get a diaper check

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Pan de cat

>> No.39188862

>>39188788
isn't breadcat another chuuba

>> No.39188897

>>39188788
aster?

>> No.39188951

>>39188679
>>39188754
Are you two new or did you just forget?

>> No.39188961

Do you ever stop shilling her for free :)>>39188788

>> No.39188965

>>39188533
the next step in mouse evolution...

>> No.39189042

>>39188951
i do remember that you literally shit in diapers and seethe over every chuuba who gets posted here

>> No.39189148

Well makos graduating lmao
Couldn’t handle the bullying

>> No.39189210

>39189148
Bullshit
Fuck off

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>>39189210
israel.
https://twitter.com/MakoFukasameTV/status/1604383871210258432

>> No.39189253

>>39189148
you got my my hopes up but it's just hiatus

>> No.39189289

>>39189253
lol get rekt faggot

>> No.39189309

>>39189148
mako will always be a bigger streamer than you, mean girls wannabe

>> No.39189357

>>39188565
Neg appearing genuinely surprised at her merch instantly selling out when it's been two years in the making, is legit the cutest thing I've seen in a long time.

>> No.39189427

I'm finishing this video and downloading Shotcut I am at my absolute fucking limit with DaVinci

>> No.39189432

Mako gets schizo'd a lot but she's a really good chuuba and I hope she's okay

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One week remains

>> No.39189538

>>39189432
success breeds jealousy

>> No.39189569

>>39189538
I breeds Veleck

>> No.39189606 [DELETED] 

>>39189309
>>39189289
>>39189242
>>39189210
Lets turn this ‘hiatus’ into an actual graduation! Say all the things you hate about mako and why she should stop streaming

>> No.39189640

>>39188565
The mori calliope of /wvt/

>> No.39189655

Rin is actually a really nice person, and his master plan is to muddy the waters so much with retarded lies, concern trolls and insults that no one takes any criticism seriously anymore, and all chuubas are free to incline and prosper.

>> No.39189837

>>39189530
Can you believe it guys?

>> No.39189885

>>39189837
JUST A WEEK AWAY!

>> No.39189920

>>39189837
I know, mako is graduating! I’m ecstatic!

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>> No.39190097

>>39190056
Pngtubers be like

>> No.39190108

>>39190097
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT

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https://www.twitch.tv/paperbag_ch
baeg's on with more dorf fortress

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6R3DJEZoBQ

>> No.39190152

>>39190146
Pngtubers be like

>> No.39190178

>>39190152
oi

>> No.39190229
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Lel

>> No.39190266

She's pregnant

>> No.39190285

>>39186981
ACTION RURI

>> No.39190430
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>>39190285

>> No.39190451

>>39190430
It's been like 100 episodes has action ruri happened yet

>> No.39190694

>>39190266
With me

>> No.39190760

>>39189242
>Couldn’t handle the bullying
>family circumstances
who are you going to believe

>> No.39190801

>39189606
>diapershitting

>> No.39190828

>>39190694
You must be at least 18 years old to use this website. See you in 2041.

>> No.39190855

Chuubas that are into BDSM? Actual BDSM and bondage, not to be confused with every girl saying she wants to be tied up once.

>> No.39191046

>know a viewer is /here/
>see them in a discord
All good, doesn't worry me

>talk with someone in a discord for X weeks/months
>find out they're /here/ afterward
ANXIETY

>> No.39191143

>>39190855
Takako likes ropes and made a joke about kneeling on dry rice as a punishment. I've only heard of that as bdsm play. Callie is into pet play and probably ddlg. PiCKY loves exhibitionism so there could be potential there with her.

>> No.39191145

>>39191046
They're still the same person bro

>> No.39191171

>>39191046
>know a viewer is /here/
Nobody better know I'm here.

>> No.39191193

>>39191145
In the former scenario, I can tailor my behavior to the fact they might know who I am. In the latter, I can't, and in fact, haven't been.

>>39191171
We do.

>> No.39191234

>>39191193
Be yourself. Don't be who you think other people will like.

Unless you're a criminal or something then just be better ig

>> No.39191295

>>39191234
I would prefer if all the embarrassing things I say and do in the thread stay thread-exclusive, thank you.

>> No.39191332
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>was screensharing something in VC with a chuuba and other viewers
>mindlessly alt tab to this thread with multiple other open threads
i don't really care that she saw me but sometimes i wish i payed more attention to what i'm doing

>> No.39191373

>>39191332
paid

>> No.39191405

>>39191332
you're giving me secondhand anxiety right now

>> No.39191458

>>39190855
i've never tried rope play but i'd really like to be tied up
i also want to be beaten up but that might be more ryona than bdsm

>> No.39191532

>>39191458
you made this post with the express intent to NOT post link when asked, and i want you to know that that's evil of you

>> No.39191580

>clio still streaming long hours and gaining views through industry connections
>mako languishing and falling in numbers because of things outside her control
>no matter how hard she tries she’ll keep failing
This is hilarious, if what she wrote about her dog being sick is true then if it dies maybe mako will quit fully after all

>> No.39191861

>>39186259
Shimada looks so cute i wonder if she would accept a hug

>> No.39192108

>search my oshi's favorite hentai artist
>the girls look just like her
I'm thinking based

>> No.39192152

there is no hope for me as entertainer ive never received any substantial praise my numbers are worthless i wish i was dead

>> No.39192165

>>39192152
Hi Ashton

>> No.39192169

>>39191143
>I've only heard of that as bdsm play.
Parents actually used to do that to kids like a couple generations ago. Probably still do in some parts of the world.

>> No.39192235

>>39192165
i dont have a personality. that explains everything: why nobody watches me, why nobody thinks of me, why nobody wants anything to do with me.

>> No.39192236

>>39191458
Ryona is essentially the sm part of bdsm.

>> No.39192284

>39191580
>still diapershitting

>> No.39192298

>>39192235
Nobody wants to watch an entertainer who only cares about themselves

>> No.39192317

>>39192152
>>39192235
Your worth as a person comes from you, menhera-chan. No one else.

>> No.39192474

>>39192298
thats not true and i care about other people. i try my best being there for people only to be called selfish when i feel like shit.

>>39192317
it doesnt. im not useful or entertaining to anyone so i dont deserve to feel happy or be a vtuber

>> No.39192520
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>Remarks that she likes how Dot streams
>Kongou doing rundown on how to do game commentary, remarks she likes style 1 (Focusing on game)
>Next stream I see her she's focusing intensely on the game and massively dropping chat interaction
Its okay.

>> No.39192555

>>39192520
irys watch Kongou?

>> No.39192570

>>39192474
Why do you feel the need to be useful to others to prove your worth?

>> No.39192653

>>39192570
Because you have no worth if you're not valuable to other people??? This is obvious stuff. Worth and value are synonyms. There's no purpose to your existence if you don't provide something of value to other people because if you don't provide value to them they won't care if you exist. If nobody cares you exist you just sit there in an empty room trying to fill your life with sensations waiting to die.

>> No.39192725

>>39192570
whats the point of a streamer nobody watches?

>> No.39192871

>>39192653
Get help bpd-chan

>> No.39193001

>>39192653
How bad could your numbers be? Drop a link or no one cares

>> No.39193053

>>39192653
You think way, way too little of how much a single person can learn and experience.

>>39192725
What’s the point of anything? If you want to stream, then stream. You’re defeating yourself. By worrying constantly about numbers, you’re carrying yourself in a way that stresses you out and makes you worse at bringing your positive qualities to your work.

>> No.39193092

>>39192871
Your existence in the real world outside of your own head is defined entirely by other people's perception of you since everyone who isn't you is living in their own head. None of this is an unreasonable statement. You think anybody gives a shit about all the nameless graveless bodies that convinced themselves they were happy? They don't exist anymore, and as far as history is concerned, they never did.

>> No.39193177

>>39193092
This is a really dark way to see the world and I hope you don’t actually believe it. Because it’s not only dark, it’s also completely wrong.

>> No.39193217

>>39192653
i understand how you feel. But living for those fleeting sensations isn't so bad. little things like a fresh coffee or an especially good video game can make life worth living. Even if it's temporary. You can find worth in living just for yourself

>> No.39193235

>>39193177
You cannot prove me wrong.

>> No.39193264

>>39193092
Who cares? Grow up and quit whining. Be an adult and learn to make yourself happy instead of blaming everyone around you and society.

>> No.39193331

>>39193235
I can prove that I’m happy, believing in my own fundamental worth, and incidentally bringing happiness to my friends and loved ones as a result. And that you aren’t. Your belief doesn’t even accomplish the task of making you valuable to others. It does the opposite.

>> No.39193335

>>39193264
did you even read the post? the anon is blaming himself every step of the way

>> No.39193375

>>39193331
>you aren’t.
yes because i have no friends skills or personality i cannot bring happiness to my friends when i have none

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Come to think of it, Jets, Neg and now Mako have all had to take breaks from streaming in short succession. I really enjoy all their streams.
But is being australian just a curse? How can I make my oshis day better as just a viewer?

>> No.39193414

Man i was gonna menhera but now it feels rude to post my issues while someone else is complaining

>> No.39193437

>>39193375
So then it seems to me like you could benefit from seeing things my way, friend.

>> No.39193444

>>39193408
>How can I make my oshis day better as just a viewer?
art , skebs , throne gifts , donations

>> No.39193471

>>39193335
I did read it. They need psychological help. Part of being an adult is getting over yourself and learning to be self sufficient and this anon has already decided they can't because life is unfair. I don't have sympathy for people who just spread misery to everyone around them.

>> No.39193498

>>39193331
It doesn't have to, that's why I work to make and do things for people to have value. You do the same thing regardless of how you choose to dress it up. You're happy because other people already find value in you.

>> No.39193514

>>39193375
>i have no friends
I can't imagine why kek

>> No.39193603

>>39193375
>>39193498
>no friends
make them
>no skills
learn some
>no personality
fix your current one

>> No.39193654

>>39190855
Jets is a masochist rope bunny

>> No.39193671

>>39193498
>other people already find value in you
They didn’t always. And when they did, I didn’t see it. I will admit I’m lucky, someone very special saw value in me when I was younger and it helped me a lot. But it also took me a very long time to understand that. Maybe only in the last year or so have I really started to get it.

I see value in you. I see value in everyone. Not in a generic “aww it’s okay” way, but as in, I genuinely believe you are capable of being wonderful to be around, if you start seeing that you can. You probably show bits of it already. It’s pretty hard to hide things like that.

>> No.39193747

>>39193514
i know i dont dont deserve them. im sick and i make everything worse

>>39193603
easier said than done i missed out on 25 years of socializing the damage is done

>> No.39193798

>>39193747
Ok since you already decided you're a lost cause I guess you're a lost cause.

>> No.39193806

>>39193671
no you dont see value in anyone. you hang out with your group of talented friends and say positive statememts like that bc you dont encounter anyone outside your bubble.

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>>39193806
>these are the people that become vtubers

>> No.39193914

>>39193806
>lashing out at the only anon being nice to you
Don't expect sympathy if you're going to be a bitch over different world views

>> No.39193928

>>39193747
You deserve friends. I mean this sincerely. You’re going to try and write this off, thinking I’m just saying this to be nice, and if I really knew you I’d agree with you, etc. But I mean it. I swear on the grave of the person most important to me in the world, that you deserve friends and success and to be happy. I really, really mean that.

>>39193806
I really wish that were true. I wouldn’t be so paranoid about people trying to hurt me if it were.

>> No.39193961

>>39193806
Menhera-chan are you really Ashton? I can save you!

>> No.39193985

>>39193671
>No one cared who I was until someone cared who I was
>Y-you're wrong though! Self-fulfillment isn't meaningless! Please ignore the fact that it took someone else caring about me to make me think this, that's irrelevant!

>> No.39194033

>>39193806
Anon please stop agreeing with my posts you're making me look retarded

>> No.39194112

>>39193985
Doing this doesn't make them look foolish, it makes you look crazy.

>> No.39194167

life's short and even if you were the president of the united states nothing you do really matters in the long run. a lot of people struggle with seeing the reason to live but honestly I think it's just to keep searching for happiness, and to make the other meaningless people around you happy if you can as well. I work a shitty job so I can afford electricity so I can watch fake anime people that make me happy, and I post stupid things in their chats so they can be happy too. It's a simple life but it works.

>> No.39194171

>>39193985
Yes, anon. When you’re a damaged person, it often does take someone else’s kindness for you to see the good in yourself. That doesn’t mean they’re giving you worth. That’s them showing you how to see the worth you already have. Please understand the difference, it is important.

>> No.39194220

Minkye really has the bottom boy earrings.. cute

>> No.39194275

>>39194167
you can just change your life

>> No.39194289

>>39194275
Bud did you ever change your life other than the time you won big on bitcoin?

>> No.39194339

>>39194289
yes

>> No.39194367

>>39191046
>>39191171
I make no efforts to hide that I'm /here/, well, /here/ but I hope it isn't too obvious elsewhere. Not that I'm especially worried of someone that doesn't use this hellhole knowing but I just don't wanna be that guy greentexting and spamming 4chan memes everywhere I go.

>> No.39194400

>>39194171
Even if there was a real non semantic difference (which I disagree with), the fact remains that you had to be worth something to someone else for them to change your life. Why shouldn't I develop skills to provide people with products/services to try to speed up this process? Regardless of the philosophy behind it the goal is the same, having other people give a shit about your existence.

>> No.39194425

>>39194400
you are overthinking it, just have fun

>> No.39194428

you dont deserve to be a vtuber unles youre happy.
you dont deserve to have friends unless youre happying.
you dont deserve a good life unless youre happy.

>> No.39194455

>>39194428
if you want something, work for it, then when you have it you'll feel happy

>> No.39194501

>>39194400
They learned their own worth because someone helped them see it and now they don't need other peoples help to feel secure. You on the other hand are using what should be gestures of kindness for leverage to try to make people care about you. You're selfish insecure and manipulative.

>> No.39194523

another day another shit thread

>> No.39194581

menhera posting on 4chan well not increase your mental health seek therapy

>> No.39194639

>>39194523
this thread has not been good for a long time

>> No.39194667

>>39194581
It's my mental illness thank you very much, I shall do what I like with it.

>> No.39194782

>>39194501
>You're selfish insecure and manipulative
i know i am the worst i deserve nothing or better: i deserve harm and pain

>> No.39194794

callie is really cute! i love her poly model a lot

>> No.39194841

>>39194400
Anon. Do you think this person who saw good in me saw that good because I was an artist or something? Or funny? Or smart? I wasn’t. I was a braindead 16 year old edgelord. People had every right to hate me. Get this through your head. No amount of praise for your skills is gonna do shit for you. Every single artist in this thread, no matter how skilled or how much we tell them they’re good, is a menhera self-loathing mess. There is zero correlation between aptitude and self love. You wanna know how you stop hating yourself? By not hating yourself. Whatever method works for you is fine, but I’m telling you right now, having other people like you in exchange for a service is rarely helpful.

>> No.39194862

>>39194782
I can't believe it took me this long to notice that it was the emoposter hijacking my (you)s

>> No.39194884 [DELETED] 

the biggest problem on this board is the moderation. take a look at the latest deleted posts:

https://archive.alice.al/vt/search/deleted/deleted/page/1/

mods are like a rudder on a ship. they guide the overall sentiment. the difficulty with this board in particular is that vtubing and streaming in general only attracts the socially inept. if they aren't inept, why are they here after all? so your talent pool for moderating this board is very limited and the admins have to take what they get

i think if you're a good person and kinda sharp, even if you're not socially perfect, you should make an effort to become a mod here. your contribution will have a big ripple effect.

>> No.39194897

>>39194841
>having other people like you in exchange for a service is rarely helpful.
but the people who are liked seem so happy and populqr and have so many viewers who support and love them

>> No.39195014

Is this Sloth? If this is Sloth, please go to bed. Staying up late festering in your menhera will do nothing but make you feel worse. Even if you’re not her, please get some sleep.

>> No.39195019

>>39194897
They’re all menhera as fuck. You know that. We all know that. And the ones that aren’t, they’d be just as happy if they were 2views, because their happiness never relied on an internet number.

>> No.39195106

>>39194841
So because you got lucky and were given social bonds for free I shouldn't work to try to make them on my own terms? What kind of logic is this?

>> No.39195191

>>39195019
they are menhera sure but also they have so many talents and skills and people who support them and that way they have a better chance at healing. i am only menhera and have nothing else

>> No.39195340

>>39195106
>for free
I’m really not gonna sit here and give you my life story to explain how comically wrong you are. But no, no one is telling you not to make yourself the person you wanna be. What I’m telling you is, in a year, when you’re great at whatever thing you’re teaching yourself to do, then if you’ve done it solely to get internet strangers to say nice things about you, you’ll be just as miserable as ever.

>>39195191
>they have so many talents and skills
You have a human soul, just like them. Being able to sing is a nice bonus, but it’s nowhere near the point.
>people who support them
I hope you see that, at the very least, one person out in the world right now is trying to help you, in whatever small way I can. A very real human being.

>> No.39195511

>You just need someone to show you you're worth something like someone did for me anon
>should I get people to want to do this by providing something of value to them first so they know I exist?
>NO! Thats selfish and manipulative!
>ok what do you suggest
>just bee urself anon :)

>> No.39195616

>>39195511
you are my favorite mentally ill retard

>> No.39195633

>>39195511
I think you’re worth something right now, whether you’re good at anything or not.

>> No.39196347

>>39195511
yes if you want people to watch your streams, you'll need to provide value to them. does that answer your question? all adult relationships are transactional, nobody will ever love you intrinsically. if you're waiting for people to watch your stream without a reason, then you'll be waiting a long time

you can either be yourself and hope your natural hobbies and interests will make you desired, or you can work (the definition of working is doing something you don't want to do in exchange for something). either be yourself or work. now if you work, then you'll have to give the audience what they really want, and it might not be obvious at first, and it *definitely* will be what you don't want to do. if it was something you wanted to do, then everyone else would already be doing it and flood the market.

>> No.39197848

>>39196347
>nobody will ever love you intrinsically.
this is why i broke up with my bf. he never really loved me intrinsically even if he said he did

>> No.39198035

>>39194884
proof mods are useless is that you’re somehow still here

>> No.39198697 [DELETED] 

>>39197848
i meant it literally, nobody will ever love you intrinsically. all relationships other than "from mother to child" are transactional. we only love each other for what they offer us. this is normal and good. you can't expect anyone to love you intrinsically, or else you'll forever be disappointed in them and, yeah, eventually break up

>> No.39198796

The mic I want to buy uses XLR but my PC doesn't have that end. Anyone know of good adaoter which eon't ruin the sound?

>> No.39198807

>>39196347
>>39198697
>Believes that losers will somehow find a way to fail every single time
>Repeats the words of Confucious, who turned China into the shithole it is today through his ideas
You genetic failure.

>> No.39199139

>>39198796
You should be using an audio interface with an XLR.

>> No.39199353
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LIVE NOW
How many tumors can I show off on Twitch until they smack my nuts
twitch.tv/calebhorusvt

>> No.39199429

>>39179206
would not mind impregnating mint [SPOILER]while henemi watches all tied up.[/SPOILER]

>> No.39199470

>>39189242
what happened to her family?

>> No.39199875

>>39198807
>a french bug
>he kneels to a chink bug
who'd've thunk it

>> No.39199972

>post bait
>nobody responds
>respond to it yourself
Like pottery

>> No.39200013

>>39199972
Thats 90% of this thread any day, any time.

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>> No.39200158

Should I send a tribute to my local oshi? I figure it will either turn her on or completely mortify her. A win-win situation.

>> No.39200195

>>39200130
Alright then
I love my oshi!

>> No.39200201

>>39200130
Damn, this version of Robocop looks like shit.

>> No.39200339

Is it normal to have merely feelings of friendship towards a chuuba, and yet be constantly having carnal thoughts about them? Normally this wouldn't bother me because those thoughts are about chuubas i watch for a bit and don't have much further interaction past their streams, but this has happened to chuubas i talk to very often, and i worry i might start catching feelings for them.

>> No.39200595

>>39179278
>I feel as though I'm being forgotten throughout this community
The community is spread across this thread, Twitter, and countless Discord servers. Maybe a bit fragmented. So don't despair just because trolling reduced foot-traffic here a bit.
How are your tweet, tweet-reply and Twitch chatting reps?

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>>39199353

>> No.39200722

>>39200158
depends on who your oshi is. if it is lily hopkins, do not. if it is bungo taiga, he'll probably enjoy that

>> No.39200837

>>39191143
> kneeling on dry rice as a punishment
That punishment is incredibly specific to Filipino culture.

Takako is a Flip.

>> No.39200884

>>39200837
Filipino Canadian.

>> No.39200909

>>39191143
ddlg? what, like doki doki literature club?

>> No.39200942

>>39200884
>another fresh off the boat like Millie
Time to commit oshihen

>> No.39201019

>>39200884
i want to colonize her womb

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Vampire love!!!

>> No.39201718

>>39200674
that pizza looks undercooked

>> No.39202448
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This bug is cute!

>> No.39203223

>>39191532
i don't think you want a link from a silly little male like me, hehe

>> No.39203232

any psycho indie vtubers? i mean like genuinely FUCKED UP women?

>> No.39203265

looking for recommendations for some chill chuubas.
maybe one that doesn't scream loudly into my ear and plays vidya.

>> No.39203285

>>39203265
clauvio

>> No.39203380

>>39203232
Why do you need that information?

>> No.39203557

>>39203380
looking for new chuubas to watch

>> No.39203784

>>39203557
But why psychos specifically?

>> No.39203795

>>39203232
only way you're gonna find women like that is in JP not english. and i don't know if you're memeing but here's the twitter of one
https://twitter.com/ryonaxlove
i remember her from when they had the /meat/ threads... horrible times

>> No.39203815

>>39203232
beatani

>> No.39203842

>>39203265
veleck's started streaming again, she's pretty soft spoken

>> No.39203884

>>39203784
because the nicest person you'll ever meet has lost, and the twisted fucking psychopath has taken over

>> No.39204263

>>39203784
i like people who have no filter

>> No.39204391

>>39203815
Who's gonna tell him

>> No.39204671

>>39189538
you had me at breed

>> No.39204711

https://twitter.com/Laponkotsu/status/1604493141830238209 please help what did she mean

>> No.39204847

>>39204711
I genuinely have no idea and have to assume she's using the wrong words for what she's trying to express.

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Sunday chuubers

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>> No.39205564

>liked a moment in a stream
>want to clip it
>check through clips to make sure no one else already did
>someone did
>they didn't fucking title it
you fucking RETARD.

>> No.39205624

>>39204711
She's probably sending mau a DM, or something. Don't try to make sense of it.

>> No.39205953

i haven't had the desire to fuck my oshi in several months now. is she really my oshi if i don't want to raise children with her?

>> No.39205975

>>39205953
Do you know what the word means at all?

>> No.39206043

>>39205191
Is that Enrico guy a vtuber kid from Saurei? Model has a similar style

>> No.39206105

>>39205975
the best way to support and help your oshi incline is to fuck the menhera out of them. you don't get it...........

>> No.39206196

>>39206043
https://twitter.com/02_Nai
model art by whoever this is, I think

>> No.39206211

Oshi means vtuber you want to fuck?

>> No.39206237

>>39195511
>vtuber happy about getting thousands of chats on their channel
>most of it was me
Not sure how i should take it

>> No.39206248

>>39206211
there are many vtubers I want to fuck, but I only have one oshi.

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>>39206211
This thread should be cleansed.

>> No.39206295

>>39206105
i don't want to fuck my menhara oshi, i just want to provide emotional support for her even if it means she relies on me way too much for everything and won't leave me alone

this is the male dream by the way

>> No.39206343

What do you think of /wvp/

>> No.39206350

>>39200837
Takako has said multiple times that's she's only white

>> No.39206373

>>39206343
too gay

>> No.39206400
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LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.39206412

>>39198697
People may not like the messenger but he is mostly right. Many marriages have died because the man got sick or lost his good job and even in this thread many people keep repeating how you have to provide something valuable to get accepted by someone

>> No.39206471

>>39206412
vtubers?

>> No.39206608

>>39206471
Sorry chumbud. These a bloggers with virtual avatars. Want some made up character then go to watch more hololive. Get lost holobrony.

>> No.39206613

>>39206471
this place hasn't been about vtubers for over 1 year now

>> No.39206617

>>39206471
Very common in vtubing because people want to incline and don't know better.
There is tweets almost every day about someone thinking that they had a friend but it ended up being just a business partner that used them to climb the ranks

>> No.39206933

rebelearthsky is so cool...

>> No.39206956

>>39198697
it's a transaction that goes both ways. this is regardless of the amount of men leaving women vs women leaving men or vice versa

>> No.39207004

>>39206956
stop replying to yourself.

>> No.39207117

Twitter is a place to network and raise your social status in the internet heirarchy.
Every post on Twitter is made for the sole purpose of raising your social heirarchy.
When people tell you they are looking for friends they are not. When a chuuba says they want you in their discord they don't. There's only one reason they are on social media and that reason was never you.
Does this mean that vtubers cannot be enjoyed for what they are?

For me it's not a problem and it doesn't get to me. It's simply how the cookie crumbles.

I can still enjoy vtubers for what they are without the promise of decency or friendship the same way I can enjoy a stand up comedian.

Would I like to be friends with many vtubers? I wouldn't mind. I know they are not reaching out for friends though despite what they say. Vtubers only want one thing and shouldn't be despised for their ambition.

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>>39206400
NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>39207117

>> No.39207205

>>39207117
you can't repost this and not add the vocaroo
https://vocaroo.com/1yd2uQtDZ3HK

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>>39206343
>>39206373
/wvp/ might as well be called wvpenis at this point
only the gayest posting happens there from small boys topping to big FUZZY bara's being posted

>> No.39207279

>>39207205
Not fair use. Expect a DMCA.

>> No.39207293

>>39207117
this posts falls apart with the final paragraph, very disharmonious for what should be your powerhouse finisher

>> No.39207301

>>39207004
eat my shorts

>> No.39207350

>>39207301
i SAID stop replying to thyself

>> No.39207353

>>39207205
https://youtu.be/JGD2R01RAlA

>> No.39207516

rebelearthsky is so cool...

>> No.39207518

>>39207301
You are by far one of my least favorite posters together with that stupid pants shitting americunt
you stupid pedophile bastard

>> No.39207527

>>39203232
Odette

>> No.39207553

What happened to Rin???

>> No.39207577

>>39207553
lied about dying for attention. the usual.

>> No.39207648

>>39207577
though you can tell the spark is gone, so it's not all bad

>> No.39207721

>>39203232
me :)

>> No.39207729

https://www.twitch.tv/ezekialhiene

Fallout New Vegas Vtuber!

>> No.39207738

>>39207518
i can literally just put "adriansreality" in for the name, no tripcode, and you think i'm really him. unbelievable. you guys are so obsessed with these stupid shitfuckers, just ignore them and move on and they'll post less frequently.

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>>39207703
>>39207703
>>39207703
new bread move whenever

>> No.39207744

>>39185977
>>39179848
>>39179624
>>39179584
Saving this for ruminating on later. Thank you all.
>>39200595
Sad to say but they are very poor. I plan to fix it next year by reaching out more to pomote new bonds and strengthen old ones. The problem of finding anything worthwhile to say still stands though.
>>39186952
Speak your thoughts Anon.

>> No.39208384

>>39206295
my penis made this post

>> No.39211984

Interesting. My post was deleted for "being off-topic". And yet, I was giving a girl advice she directly asked about building her audience. She wanted confirmation that you need to provide value to others (in order to grow a vtuber audience), I then confirmed that yes, all relationships but one are transactional -- and the janitor here believed that post did not belong.

Remember what I said earlier? >>39194884 Dead right.

Dead. Fucking. Right.

My eyes are like razors.

If you're a good man and have a level head, apply for janitor next round, even if you think you're not good enough, just do it anyway. This board is troubled in ways that other boards are not. (I post of a lot of boards)

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