/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

*GENERAL NUMBERFAG SITES*
>https://playboard.co/en/
>http://ikioi-ranking.com/
>https://vrabi.net/
>https://www.vstats.jp
>https://live-ranking.userlocal.jp/vtuber-ranking

Hololive sites
>https://holo.poi.cat/
>https://www.hololyzer.net/youtube/index.html
>https://trackholo.live/en/

Nijisanji sites
>https://niji-mado.web.app/stats/hourly
>https://twitter.com/2434rankings
>https://twitter.com/2434subscriber

Twitch
>https://sullygnome.com/
>https://twitchtracker.com/
>https://stats.roki.sh/

Full list at https://pastebin.com/nCGZL1Lp

>>39156820
If the doxxsisters really have that much influence on the NijiEN viewerbase no wonder the entire branch culture is fucked

>green whore can't even get 100k on her shorts which is the easiest form of content to get views
>Ina and Gura will be coming back and pushing her to be a shitty 5k streamer again because no one actually cares about her

January is looking good

* FINAL TALLY OF THE DAY *
>110,266: Pekora (Hololive)
>53,248: Towa (Hololive)
>41,901: Miko (Hololive)
>30,850: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>28,394: Beni (VSPO)
>25,571: Pekora (Hololive)
>17,735: Fuwa (Nijisanji)
>17,543: Mysta (Nijisanji)
>17,472: Fubuki (Hololive)
>17,472: Koyori (Hololive)
>17,359: Ayame (Hololive)
>14,985: Sumire (VSPO)
>14,015: Kanata (Hololive)
>13,117: Shion (Hololive)
>12,831: Kuzuha (Nijisanji)
>12,239: Mio (Hololive)
>11,972: Lamy (Hololive)
>11,883: Ito Life (Indie)
>11,642: Iroha (Hololive)
>10,647: Mito (Nijisanji)
>10,566: Chloe (Hololive)
>10,449: Tamaki (Noripro)
>10,200: Lauren (Nijisanji)
>10,132: Salome (Nijisanji)

https://twitter.com/AZKi_VDiVA/status/1603948095552765952

>>39157188
>6 win
grim month

>>39157167
You could just ask nicely to watch Fauna short

>>39157151
Nah, it's not that they have influence, it's that they ARE the biggest chunk of their audience.

Opened holodex looking for something to watch and it just looks grim as absolutely fuck

>>39157303
Pomu until 6:15. Ame stream after that. Then...idk, not sure if anyone else will show up tonight. Maybe Ame will do a game stream.

>>39157303

>>39157378
Isn't mori doing a mini 3d live or something
But yeah with mumei's moving today's stream to yesterday and kronii/irys out of commission, you'd have to hope for a bae stream

I see the solar system debut buff is wearing off

>>39157450
Dear god, now it's even worse

>>39157481
Mori's live thing is at like 11, I'll be asleep by then and also it's Mori's UMG music I'm not terribly excited about it.

DAILY ENGLISH TALLY

>17.543: Mysta Rias (Nijisanji)
>9.069: Hakos Baelz (Holoshite)
>8.230: Pomu Rainpuff (Nijisanji)
>6.518: Nanashi Mumei (Holoshite)
>6.020: Luca Kaneshiro (Nijisanji)
>5.500: Hex Haywire (Nijisanji)

God, I can't wait for Ina to come back and save this timeslot for EN.

>>39157450
>switching from one big corpo to another
here's a real stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdycdRdtVJk

>>39157450
Even Niji is pretty grim, the only two vaguely watchable streams coming up are Selen playing Call of Juarez for some reason, and Millie Darkest Dungeon. And there's a Pippa stream at 9 EST if you like her.

>>39157550
Has there ever been a 100% Nijisanji EN day?
I kinda wanna see it for full GRIM posting potential.
I know there were 2-3 full Holo days.

>>39157550
Forgot the West Taiwan flag sister.

>>39157560
>Already back to 3k
Quick suspend him again.

>>39157667
Yes, there has. I remember Luca winning gold with 7k or something before because there were no holo streams.

>>39157621
Also, morning voice angel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe144cyK5rg

>>39157680
holoseethe

Has Pekora reclined recently in the past month?

>>39157720
you mixed it up, its holocope and nijiseethe

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604206041058664451
Bets on nijifags trying to abuse this and end up getting bonked themselves for brigading?

>>39157667
Day Rushia got fired. Bae had like a membership stream and no one else streamed at all. Shitposters were too busy shitposting about Rushia to care though.

>>39157167
I think Ina's going to be surprised by how much her numbers drop when she comes back.
Then again Takocucks make cuckbeats looks respectable these days, so maybe not.

>>39157188
Isn't 110k pretty low for an outfit reveal for Pekora?

>>39157450
>putting Project Kawaii before Phase Connect
Is this proof that Kawaii is the biggest small corpo?

>>39157771
Twitter can't even block words you put on the fucking mute list. I have all Luxiem's tags muted, marked as disinterested, marked as spammy/harmful and they still get spammed at me every day because I follow vtubers.

>>39157878
Don't fall for bait links leading to Vox rape tweets

>>39157827
People only watch Fauna because there's nothing better to watch. With Ina back there will be something better, all of Fauna's "fans" will go back to Ina and Gura will make sure she stays down

>>39156727
Who is she and how is she an Ame? I like cute girls but not ame way girls

>>39157878
If you use these mute words and then set your homepage to the latest tweet only you shouldn't be getting anything but tweets from those you follow. Been working for me for like a year.

>>39157983
The artist for her is Nabi I suppose

>>39158002
No it isn't

>>39157847
Nah I just had a period where I watched PK and put it on top that's all

Is it just me or has YouTube taken the legs out from under shorts?

Numbers

Talking about clips, I remember some anon mentioned sushi a couple threads back.
Finally had the chance to see it for myself and wow, this guy really fell off a cliff, didn't he?

>>39158026
>>39158002
Also, she's singing end of a life, one of the only good Mori songs.

>>39158106
yes, we already went over this when talking about filian

>>39158120
Nigger I don't care stop shiling your retarded 2views

Is Holostats dead? Nothing loads.

>>39157684
I have better idea. Graduation. Now that would incline Vesper heavy.

>>39158106
Yeah, just look at Fillians monthly views. From 32 million in October to not even 5 so far this month.

>>39157993
I don't get their tweets but I get their live tags recommended on my sidebar constantly. Same with political shit, mark as uninterested, it pops up again the next day with the exact same wording.

In this list, the Yamino one is Shu's art tag, I've blocked it and it still appears. Greta, LGBQ, Trump I've all marked as not interested many times and they keep coming up.

>>39157550
wasn't it untitled

>>39158210
Holy recline! Gura Killer curse strikes again

https://youtube.com/watch?v=n1BUIXZJNY0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MW8xThJeqVY
These fucking zoomers, who don't even watch Pokemon keep complaining about Ash finally being retired after 25 years.

>>39158210
That's for vtuber content. What about normalfag content? If it also fell off, it's probably because of the retarded UI changes.

>>39158242
Ah for that I just moved country to some small ass country like the Nordics or something.

>>39158109
He pretty much lost his top place ever since flooding the site with low effort, sub 1 minute clips no longer worked to game the algo.

>>39158106
It's promoting more live stream vods than before at least.

>>39158120
I like End of Life. It reminds me of Soundless, Hazy Skyscraper, and Words I could say to you. I dont really like when she goes hard on the rap, but what can you do

So what are the predictions for ina's comeback? And what were the top comeback stream numbers for comparisons sake?

Pekora's views have steadily gone down since her Dec 3 LIE-vestream. Miko's seem to have increased. it seem nousagi are abandoning her for Miko, since Miko can be trusted.

>>39158451
20k maybe because it will just be a Zatsu at like 5 PM

>>39158451
around 30k probs
most holoEn will be back by then so people won't be as starved and Fauna exists too

predictions for the leech?

>>39158464
Blame FGO

>>39158271
vtuber content here

>>39158537
Has leech ever been used as anything other than I don’t like them?

>>39158537
>watchalong
>mori watchalong
1k and that's being ultra generous

>>39158537
Sub 1k like always

>>39158551
She got good numbers with FGO until her announced she's a massive liar.

>>39158264
>they call it graduation
lol, predictions for Ash's Last Live?

>>39158604
>>39158607
her "haters want me out of hololive" comments might attract some shitposting

>>39158451
Ina's comeback won't even reach the top 10 comeback steams anon, those are resevered for 50k+ only
Shell get like 25k or something like that, then slowly go back to getting 7-8k per stream

>>39158464
That was such a bad stream, holy hell.
I kinda forgot it existed, but now the cringe is coming back.

fuckin hell lost the post number but whatever anon was askin in one of the previous /#/ thread of how 50k people found yugo's RM youtube:

>Doxxsisters knew the RM twitter
>RM twitter changes the name
>RM twitter links to RM youtube

>>39158852
those were still way more people than you'd expect from a ~100k follower twitter and a ~70k sub YT channel.

>>39158852
merry fucking linked it on twitter

Nousagi are fleeing to Miko.

>>39158464
>Noutoddlers mindbroken by hypnotist ojisan

>>39159011
Discords

>>39158451
40-45k
I believe it's special enough to be above normal returns, but not special enough for anything big.

Am sure some trannies willing to stick around and groom her in the process.

>>39159083
also b2 and weibo

>>39158451
25k. top comeback miko 3d 130k+

>>39159051
Pekora needs to stream more hours just to beat Miko. Pathetic

>holofags hate Mori
>holofags hate Ame
>holofags hate Kiara
>holofags hate Kronii
>holofags hate Bae
>holofags hate Moona
>holofags hate Ollie
>holofags hate Iofi
>holofags hate Kobo
>holofags hate Zeta
>holofags hate Laplus
>holofags hate Coco
>holofags hate Rushia
>holofags hate

Holy shit, what's wrong with that company and their fanbase?
I don't have a horse in this race but how can anyone enjoy working in that black company with such a disgustingly toxic viewerbase?

>>39158451
20k-30k max

>>39159184
and STILL fails
look at that average CCV. Last month Pekora was going crazy, then her lie came out and boom, dropped like a rock

>>39159217
>how can anyone enjoy working in that black company with such a disgustingly toxic viewerbase?
By looking at the other options lol

>Holo vs Holo

>>39158464
Yea, Miko even beat her on the latest marika collab

>>39159175
145k it was.
Should have known this instantly, it was the highest viewed Holo stream till Gura's first outfit.

>>39159260
Miko had more average CCV than Pekora last month too

>>39158464
t. mindbroken sister

>>39159217
All these hates are justified though.

out of nowhere miko v peko, did he already get unbanned?

>>39159051
comparison

nov 1 - 15 vs dec 1 - 15

>>39159375
who hates Iofi and Moona
do people even know Iofi still exists

did the gropping ojisan having sex with Pekora on stream really hurt her?

that's funny af

>>39159217
I don't hate Coco, she was a good addition to the chemistry hololive had. I just pity the state in which her RM is.

What set off spectrum 90 today?

>>39159416
That plus the secretly living alone bullshit. She got overconfident after being the numbers queen for so long and thought she could get away with anything but in the end she's no different from everyone else, people won't forgive her so easily.

>holo vs holo again
sisters better help out your new wave that's on track to becoming worse than fucking iLuna

>>39159416
Nijisister being schizos the usual

>>39159175
if its cripple stream probably this one

@39159217
you're using the word hate a bit loosely, nijisister. Nice try, tho

>>39159458
>>39159387
like clockwork.

>>39159391
>Luna
holy incline

It's not a schizo thing to point out the fact that Pekora lied to her audience (she did), then her CCV took a nosedive after that (a fact).

>>39159414
No ones cares about iofi
moona has a few schizos on this board but otherwise idt anyone hates her, she's pretty inoffensive

>>39157087
Recent clip numbers
>>39128601
>>39128630
>>39128748
>>39128768
>>39128793

>>39159518
No, the top en comeback stream was haachama's.

>>39159051
Miko's 12 hours of the 24 hour MiKorone will really wipe Pekora off the map. Subaru might even beat her.

>>39159414
Moona, and all of the ID girls really, have some absolutely insane schizos. They just aren't here for the most part.

On a serious note, Miko's numbers are kinda inflated due to shiny hunting. But Pekora also underperformed because of fgo and watch along.

>>39159699
>all of the ID girls really, have some absolutely insane schizos
Huh, but why?

>>39159726
Pekora got to play a brand new Dragon Quest game and couldn't get good numbers with it.

>>39159743
schizophrenia_heatmap.jpg

>>39159759
Dragon Quest is a debuff

>>39157188
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
230x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
34x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
14x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
228x: Hololive
104x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>39159790
lol

>constant falseflags as holos
did another 100K pekostream mindbroke the sisters?

>>39159828
Show me good dragon quest numbers then

>>39159743

>>39159790
Retard

>>39159833
and after claiming she'd underperform lmao

>>39159743
They’re all on Facebook or discord groups

>>39159790
Dragon Quest is literally Pekora's signature game and it should be a buff for her

>>39159833
110k for a Pekora outfit stream isn't particularly good, especially catching the flow from Towa's stream. Though if it was going to be low, at least 110 is a good number for her.

>>39159743
Conservative Muslim country. They've convinced themselves all the girls are married or have boyfriends or are of the wrong religious/ethnic/political alignment and thus are evil.

>>39159928
speaking out of your ass lol

>>39159833
Yes, they spent half the entire fucking thread saying "muh sub 100k stream Pekora is finished" just to get btfo and try to start a Gura vs Pekora timeloop.

>>39159217
helloo tourist. welcome to /vt/

>>39157188
>2022 SILVERS
>PER COMPANY
230x: Hololive
105x: Nijisanji
6x: VSPO
5x: Indie
4x: Neo Porte
1x: PRISM Project

>PER STREAMER
53x: Pekora
34x: Miko
28x: Kuzuha
22x: Marine
15x: Subaru
14x: Suisei
11x: Gura, Salome
10x: Nijisanji
8x: Hololive
7x: Fubuki, Korone, Toya
6x: Aqua, Botan, Fuwa
4x: Koyori, Lize
3x: Flare, Hal, Lamy, Lui
2x: Haachama, Kanae, Kanata, Leos, Luna, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Noel, Shiina, Towa, Tsukasa, Tsuna, Watame
1x: Akina, Akira, Alban, Amelia, Aster, Ayame, AZKi, Beni, Choco, Chronoir, Debi, Ema, Gaku, Gatchman, Genzuki, Hayato, Hinano, Hololive Indonesia, Hoshikawa, Iofi, Ina, Iroha, IRyS, Kaela, Kanae, Karuta, Kiara, Kronii, Laplus, Lauren, Levi, Matsuri, Mio, Mito, Moona, Nari, Nene, Nerumero, Okayu, Oliver, Ponpoko, Ramune, Ren, Rion, Ririmu, Risu, Ritsuki, Roboco, ROF-MAO, Rushia, Sara Nagare, Shion, Suzuya Aki, Toko, Uki, Ver, Vox, Warabeda, Yashiro, Yui

>2022 BRONZES
>PER COMPANY
228x: Hololive
104x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
2x: 774 Inc., Noripro, VSPO
1x: Holostars

>PER STREAMER
42x: Miko
34x: Subaru
32x: Pekora
29x: Kuzuha
17x: Marine
12x: Salome
10x: Gura, Nijisanji
7x: Toya
6x: Koyori
5x: Hal, Lamy, Okayu, Suisei
4x: Aqua, Botan, Chloe, Fubuki, Korone, Mori, Shion
3x: Amelia, Choco, Hayato, Iroha, Lize, Lui, Rushia, Sasaki
2x: Ayame, Fuwa, Gwelu, Hololive, Kanata, Kiara, Kobo, Mio, Mito, Mumei, Mysta, Nerumero, Nijisanji English, Nui, Shiina, Tamaki, Towa, Watame, Yashiro, Yorumi
1x: Aia, Aki, AZKi, Dola, Enna, Flare, Gatchman, Haachama, Ibrahim, Ike, Kaida, Kanae, Kazaki, Kyoko, Laplus, Leos, Luna, Magni, Maimoto, Mayuzumi, Mel, Meloco, Met, Minase, Noel, Nose, Patra, Petra, Polka, Ponpoko, Ponto, Rikiichi, Roboco, Rosemi, Ryushen, Sora, Sumire, Tsukasa, Ui, Voltaction

>>39159416
>>39159454
idiots. youtube changed the algorithm thats why. it has nothing to do with the hypnotist you spergs

>>39157087
holo gold contenders

>18 Suisei new outfit
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders

>18 Marika 2022 tournament
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>25 SMC live
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>39159051
>>39159051
Wasn't it because of that hypnosis shit she pulled? I said that kind of damage does not comes immediately, happened with Ame, Kronii and Kobo. She still gonna bleed a little before stagnating.
Pekora will never surpass Miko again unless she pulls some buff game. PRetty much not happening, though. Too bad, should have listened to the manager who blocked that from happening all this time.

>>39159454
I thought the nousagis ended up just thinking she was a dork for moving down the street and still going back to stream and do laundry.

>>39160347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6hRHnrSnOI

>>39157771
this sounds like crap
check antis making bots just kill everybody's "credibility"

>>39159217
>flaseflag as holos shitting other holos
>muh toxic viewerbase

your rrat campaign won't take root no matter how much you try to project

>literally caught buying shitposter with giftcards
>does coordinated shitposting arranged through discord

>>39159217
>uh oh look how toxic this fabase is. are you from this fabase? yikes!

>>39159897
Claiming? The only, and I repeat ONLY type of stream that should beat a pekora dragon quest subseries stream is a graduation stream.

>>39160682
That's why I ditch chuubas after they have 2 viewers. If I'm the only one, then I can trust the fanbase not to be toxic.

Who is this pekora, ina, and mori you guys keep talking about? Kneel to the Real Queen of vtuber

>Vesper still holding 3.5k 5 hours into stream
Jesus christ man suspension buffs apparently transfer over to the vtubing world too I guess. Usually this is a twitch thing but people really missed him.

Dude was getting 2-2.8k before the suspension and now he’s getting 3k, even 4k with regularity right now

>>39160777
Doesn't posting a real picture of her diminish your point? And the award

>>39160810
Lets see if Ame puts a dent in it.

>>39160777
Doesn't she look very chinese?
>>39160820
Pretty sure that's a comment made in jest.

>>39160810
It's user submissions you retarded faggot, come back to me when it's a regular zatsu

>>39157188
>DECEMBER 2022 GOLDS
1) Aqua (Hololive) - 74,863 - Birthday totsumachi
2) Miko (Hololive) - 43,734 - Molly Online w/Suisei
3) Pekora (Hololive) - 119,225 - 2 million subs celebration 3D
4) Toya (Nijisanji) - 108,918 - Niji MK Cup rules & lottery
5) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,711 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
6) Mio (Hololive) - 69,368 - New outfit reveal
7) Mio (Hololive) - 88,166 - 4th anniversary 3D live
8) Fubuki (Hololive) - 34,626 - Fate/Grand Order gacha
9) Hisui (Nijisanji) - 43,193* - 3D debut
10) Hex (Nijisanji) - 59,875 - Debut stream
11) Nijisanji (Nijisanji) - 177,944* - Niji MK Cup qualifiers
12) Miko (Hololive) - 55,852 - Party Panic collab w/Polka, Fubuki & Suisei
13) Toya (Nijisanji) - 86,262 - Niji MK Cup finals rules & lottery
14) Pekora (Hololive) - 65,176 - Announcement stream
15) Fulgur (Nijisanji) - 30,227 - Statement on Yugo graduation
16) Miko (Hololive) - 46,343 - Pokemon Scarlet egg hatching
17) Pekora (Hololive) - 110,266 - New outfit reveal

>PER COMPANY
11x: Hololive
6x: Nijisanji

>PER STREAMER
4x: Pekora
3x: Miko
2x: Mio, Toya
1x: Aqua, Fubuki, Fulgur, Hex, Hisui, Nijisanji

>2022 GOLDS
>PER COMPANY
231x: Hololive
108x: Nijisanji
6x: Indie, Neo Porte
1x: Kizuna AI Inc.

>PER STREAMER
55x: Pekora
24x: Miko
19x: Kuzuha
18x: Aqua
16x: Nijisanji, Salome, Subaru
10x: Marine
8x: Mio, Toya
7x: Suisei
6x: Hal, Hololive, Kanata
5x: Flare, Fuwa, Gura, Koyori, Noel
4x: Chloe, Korone, Okayu, Polka, Towa
3x: Ayame, Choco, Fubuki, Lui, Mayuzumi, Mel
2x: Ange, Botan, Ibrahim, Iroha, Lamy, Laplus, Maimoto, Mito, Mori, Mysta, Nene, Nerumero, Shion, Sora, Tsukasa, Vox, Yashiro
1x: AI, Akabane, Aki, Axia, AZKi, Chima, Chronoir, Debi, Fulgur, Furen, Gwelu, Haachama, Hayase, Hex, Hisui, Hoshikawa, Kaida, Lain, Leos, Luna, Masaru, Melissa, Mikeneko, Moona, Nagao, Naruse, Natsume, Ren, Roboco, Rushia, Sana, Sango, Selen, Shiina, Sukoya, Ui, Watame, Yorumi, Zeta

>>39160880
Korean, but same difference.

>>39159217
Kek look at this catalognigger

>>39160909
His regular zatsus actually perform a bit better kek.

what did 5ch think about Pekora living alone?

>>39160909
?????? Anon?

Ame's chat speed for this return stream is going ultra blitz insane fast. Can't keep it open even with Hyperchat

>>39161035
Nah, his last two Zatsus got a bit less than the peak for this stream

>>39161117
The last time he did a pure zatsu that lasted longer than an hour, he started bleeding hard.

>>39161104
They think she's a liar and actually living with her boyfriend/husband

>return stream
>superchats off
why is she like this

Miko
>upfront about living alone
>hangs out with other holos all the time
>goes on overnight trips with holos
>gives back to 35p all the time
>tells fans when she won't stream and why

Pekora
>lies about living with her mom for a year
>announces it in a stream where she's getting groped by a man
>has no friends in hololive
>doesn't do overnight stays at anyone's home, or vice versa
>even hyped up Marine offcollab wasn't an overnight thing
>had to hurry back home to her own house, which she allegedly lives alone in
>tells fans she won't stream 20 minutes before a scheduled stream and never says why
>just to reiterate, lied about living alone for an entire year

>>39161198
>They think she's a liar
no 'thinking' involved with it since she did outright lie
I used to get angry when I saw people junposting but honestly it makes sense now since her only real defense was she lives with her mom.

>>39161168
Anon you can literally see he had 2 chatting zatsus before suspension of the same exact length, with the last one peaking at 2.2k before suspension. Then post-suspension it's risen back up to where it is now. There's no lengthy zatsu he's done since return that describes what you're saying

is she trying to blind the viewers

Looks like Kiara inadvertently (or on purpose) might have started up a favorable EN3 debate on reddit.

>this retard is still samefagging

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1604252539125321729
No....

>>39161278
She doesn’t do it for the money she does it for the game

Imagine how big they would be if Kadokawa hadn't completely bungled the franchise.

>>39160810
I mean yeah his suspension was a huge buff to his solo numbers, his last zatsu before it failed to break 3k.
But it's still only 4k during Fauna's slot with zero overlap, and dude just keeps spamming the same fucking zatsu shit like he did before. He'll start bleeding viewers again soon enough.
The Holopro thing looks sillier than ever now that it's clear most fans would watch nothing than tune in to support the homos.

...how did Ame get so popular she's not a good streamer

>>39160777
You reminded me, how funny it was when all of the NA streamers came together in their big award show and peaked at 381k
When, that VERY SAME WEEK, KoreKore and Jun both had their biggest streams, at over 420k each, but below Cocos.
Wish he kept a screenshot of the 3 of them for shitposting whenever the "big NA streamers" get brought up.

>>39161473
it's just a nijisister trying to stir shit up, we all know his numbers will go back to normal eventually

>>39161344
Nah. They still gonna blame fans for wanting streamers to stream.

>>39161473
why are people still pretending "Fauna's slot" is good when she always peaks an hour or two in

>>39160810
My perception is exactly the opposite. He is doing the same numbers of his previous Zatsu with buff content, and this shows that their tourists numbers is miserable.
The irony in all of this, most of the tourists they had, were from the EN Box they destroyed themselves pushing for collabs.

>>39161621
You can compare something like Asmongold Johnny Depp leeching numbers if you want. Or whatever XQC does that's popular.

>>39161579
attractive design propped up by hentai artists

>Ame stream crashes
>Doesn't make back the viewers she had and is getting stuck
I hate youtube

>>39161621
didn't attached image

>>39160810
It is a perfect kind of stream to just go out and come back into later, to catch different submissions.

>deleted

>>39161579
Leeching off the success of Hololive. She was a 2 view before joining EN

>>39161579
she was very different not so long ago. High energy, less complaining, better zatsu skills.

>>39161666
Its funny how they look down on fans being parasocial, but have no problems with their own blind idolatry

>>39161198
why people think "living alone = boyfriend"? I live alone but i don't see me with a boyfriend

>Another stream crash
AME OR SUSAN. PLEASE.

>>39161901
It's Ame's net

>>39161666
> why do you want EN3? You already have 10 girls to watch(that are mostly gone) AND dont forget Da Boiz. No then watch Nijis or Indies!

>>39161881 (me)
>not so long ago
maybe a poor choice of words

>>39161899
yet

>>39161932
Ive never seen fans of something want so much for it to fail

>>39161579
5k on a return stream isnt good for someone with almost 2million subs

>>39161850
I see susan has given them new tools.

>>39161416
I hate University so fucking much

>>39161899
You're not fooling us. If youre not posting here on Xmas, dont be surprised by your loss in (you)s the day after

>>39161899
Are you a successful attractive girl who owns a monkey?

>>39161975
To be completley fair, if redditors were fans, the boys would be a lot more popular on youtube

>>39161932
>AND dont forget Da Boiz
literally the biggest roadblock to EN3. I wonder if normies will start hating them because of that.

>>39161850
Does Met master the craft of Z?
She always get the largest Z of all chuubas with perfect timing.

>>39161579
I don’t know if those are return stream numbers for someone who’s popular. Fauna’s topped that fairly consistently with normal streams

>>39162028
I guess there's something for me to like about her after all.

>>39161666
watch the boys or your oshi VODs instead guys xDD

>>39162028
not a numberfag according to kfp btw

>>39162221
Anon, Ame would sell out a cafe. Fauna wouldn't. CCV isn't be all end all for popularity.

>>39161975
>Ive never seen fans of something want so much for it to fail
It's like they're terrified that new girls will kill the viewership of their favorites, so they'd rather the branch slowly die than get new blood to re-energize it.

>>39162137
Theres more people shilling Tempuss on leddit and twitter than ACTUALLY watching their streams. Its pathetic. You watch them. Why should i

>>39161962
yet = future, your oshi will not die YET anon

So, it's true.
Hololive is, indeed, dying.

Today's been a good day.

>People still talking about EN CCV after the pippa debacle
Who cares when it’s been exposed as a piece of junk

>>39161899
Why didn’t you post on Christmas?

>>39162164
By the time that happens, it'll be too late. Optimally, EN3 comes as soon as possible and becomes so much of a success that the homobeggars have no choice but to seethe in silence.

>>39161975
They aren't fans of Hololive, they inevitably let the mask slip and star talking about how much they love to watch NijiENs and vshojo and shylily (and tempus, because tempus shills are these exact same people) in these fucking reddit threads
It's all people who don't actually watch Hololive trying to psyop the real fans.

>>39161198
Retards

>>39162164
They more likely to just leave than start hating them.

>>39161932
>HoloEN is literally bleeding viewers left and right
>half of the girls are on burnout the other half is trying to stream while literally dying to make up for it
>Gura wants to pull an Aqua or Ayame but can't because the entire branch rests on her shoulder and now she's getting shit for it
>all those 2view indies who could be saved overnight by joining Hololive will have their dream crushed because no EN3
leddit is the ultimate proof of how toxic positivity is more harmful and vicious than any sort of genuine criticism. I hate those cucks so much it's unreal.

>>39162279
>cafe
Not the best choice for comparison when she's a vegan.

>>39162279
What’s your alternative proposed metric? Seems like Fauna pretty consistently gets more people to take time to watch her streams live than Ame can on a return stream

>>39162435
But it's most likely true anyway.

>>39161932
>then watch Nijis or Indies!
I don't know what HoloEN management think when see their fanbase said something like this

>>39162359
gomen, internet kaboom

>that jump
Who the fuck funneled?

>>39162524
Ame's stream died repeatedly, fuck off already

>>39162435
>Guess that a young attractive woman with a shit-load of money probably has a boyfriend if she doesn't live at home
>"Retarded"

>>39162407
>It's all people who don't actually watch Hololive trying to psyop the real fans.
Pretty much. They're like twitter SJWs trying to talk for the majority when they complain to companies and push their agendas.

Is Ame Z'ing?

Guys I think I accidentally got IRyS pregnant..

>>39162575
May be so but those numbers still don’t really stray far from what she was getting before break. Still seems pretty reflective

>Oh my god I have a second stream!!!
>it's a fucking sponsored stream
Eat ass Ame

>>39162632
Did you impregnate her with your covid? You monster.

>>39162564
It was just a Z. Anyways, her internet is absolute garbage right now so you can’t even gauge what’s accurate right now. She had 6k likes at 6.8k ccv at 20 minutes. Shit is just all over the place

>>39161117
Is it safe to say that the suspension was the best thing to ever happen to Vesper?

>>39162619
Her stream is fucking dying. I was mildly interested and I turned that shit off after the third time, I hate it when streams get all janky and stuttery. I'll just wait for some anon to summarypost anything interesting.

>>39162745
No

>>39162732
I’m really surprised she can’t clear 10k on return. Is she really in decline still?

>>39162407
Which is why Hololive will hopefully never setup a subsidiary outside Japan.
This is after all schizos who are down so bad that they are willing to 'befriend' people afk to take over in-game corporations.

>>39162632
who?

>>39162537
>>39162588
Retards.

>>39162793
she's losing and gaining like 400 viewers every minute. Internet Hort

>>39162745
Getting into holostars is probably up there

>>39161579
She was in holoMyth at the right time.

>>39162883
That's not really too out of the ordinary

>>39162793
>I’m really surprised she can’t clear 10k on return. Is she really in decline still?
I don't like Ame and even I'll concede that her shitty internet is hurting her numbers.

>>39162745
He got a spear because of it. Pretty good all things considered.

>>39162752
What numbers was gura getting when her PC was literally dying throughout the stream?

New Fauna clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6mODUgzeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6mODUgzeQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6mODUgzeQ

>>39162993
Green Lamy is increasing her power dear lord

There are a lots of JOPs hiding in Ame's chat

>>39162993
We don't care

>>39162973
There was one Resident Evil stream where she was down to like 1k and still streaming because she hides the CCV (this is how we found out) and didn't look at the chat and realize it had died.

>>39159695
Did Miko announce they are doing the 24 hour stream again? If they did how did I miss it?

I wish my oshi had pathetic fans that pull so much copium out of their asses any time their oshi got shitty numbers, but alas.

>>39162973
Peaked at just under 16k, stream graph looked like the Himalayas
I can't believe that this stream was a month ago today, time flies

>>39163137
Korone talked about meeting and making plans a few months ago.

>>39162793
Never trust what shitty internet will portray your numbers as

>>39162632
two more weeks of suspension old man

>>39163187
God I hope it happens again. That was such an amazing stream and it was so well organized with so many cool events and surprises. It even ended with an awesome 3D Live. Plus this year has been pretty barren when it comes to MiKorone content and they are always fantastic together.

>>39162993
Why is she being flirty

>>39162632
God now I want to do that too…

>>39162993
I care, thanks for letting me know. Weird I'm not getting notified of these, my youtube notifications usually work

>>39162993
Just what I've been waiting for!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy6mODUgzeQ
Thick indeed!

>>39160347
updated

holo gold contenders

>18 Suisei new outfit
>19 NePoRaBo 2nd anniversary https://twitter.com/momosuzunene/status/1603722011263762433
>22 Lui hostclub, Watame announcement reverse totsu
>26 Holoearth concert
>27 Kanata debut anniversary
>29 Watame debut anniversary
>31 Hololive NY stream

niji gold contenders
>18 Marika 2022 tournament https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2CALoGY5Eo
>19 1st gen 3D karaoke offcollab https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPddztdTyO8
>20 Luxiem anniversary
>23 Kohaku Todo 3D debut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgwDeoMud0k
>25 SMC live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzqDVQTkBEI
>27 Nornis 3D live https://twitter.com/_Nornis/status/1602604770661126144
>29 NJU 2022 day 1 (whole day free)
>30 NJU 2022 day 2 (30 mins free)
>31 NJU 2022 day 3 (30 mins free)

>>39163304
because she wants those numbers

>>39163304
Because she's the ghost

>>39162489
I dont want to harp on them they way they harp on 4chan as the source of all evil in the vtuber community, but they sure say some stupid shit with a straight face

>>39162632
I made this post. My WifeRyS is pregnant!

>>39163304
If a girl invites you to come back to school after hours and takes you to a secluded dark place while holding your hand and flirting, definitely don't make any sort of move. She probably just wants to be friends.

>>39162407
>>39162603
I remember when the homo collabs started and the drama reached its peak. Any sort of criticism by the "unicorns" even when completely polite and reasonable got dogpiled by hordes of homobeggars and Tempiss fanboys, it got so bad that even this fucking place was full of trannies calling anyone disagreeing an "incel". And the pro homo fuckers outnumbered anyone else 10 to 1, so much you'd expect Tempiss to be JP tier.
Instead look at them now, mogged by fucking ID3 and with more shills on leddit than viewers.
Hope management learned their lesson, NEVER trust virtue signaling Twitter trannies.

Are the idiots over there on reddit finally getting the complaints >we have had for half a year now

>>39163304
another yandere story where fauna is a ghost, this is too obvious anon

>>39163375
My canadian brother...

>>39163375
Yeah, she's just holding your hand so she doesn't trip and fall in the dark. No need to read into it too hard.

>>39163354
What qualities of Myth would make someone think they're "good" senpais

>>39163430
>35 and 30 updoot
yeah that will show em

Suisei outfit reveal prediction?

>>39163430
I think Farisver guy is someone here. Like literally from this thread.

>>39163430
They wouldn't have had 4/5 most upvoted posts in a day be about HoloEN all being out if they didn't.

It's just the "vocal minority" withnights that were shitting up the comments.
I guess all the shitposting paid off, because they got some better angles to express the low number of ENs complaint, compared to the first few posts that were simple EN3 beggars.

>>39163635
70k

>>39163361
I miss her so much man :(

We just made it through no Nephilim November and now she was taken from us again. Please get better IRyS!!

>>39163635
45k

>>39163430
I am begging people to stop being extremely obvious about screenshotting themself.

>>39163635
80k

>>39163635
I think 90k
100k+ kneel territory

>>39163430
>they're just noticing having more people takes a chunk of the burden off of others
now if only Twitter realizes too, then perhaps something will be done

>>39163643
FARISVER SHOW YOURSELF I WILL CUM TO YOUR OSHI AAAAA

>>39163635
More than Pekora's

>>39163789
>people

>>39163635
More than pekora

>>39163430
It's comments like this that I'm astounded on why they are getting downvoted to hell. HoloEN needs more talent so others can rest. It's a business that has competition after all. Fuckers need to stop coddling them and start demanding more from Cover.

>>39163789
Obvious is if you screenshot your own autoupvoted comment with a visble "edit" button

>>39163430
Maybe in six months they will upvote comments about tempus being a mistake, I believe

>>39162993
thank you for saving me from the most boring zatsu of the year

>>39163838
>Thinks twitter wants what's good for Hololive
You're too pure…

>>39163944
Whenever Gura stops streaming it becomes really painfully obvious how little good talent EN actually has.

>>39163331
hololive is going to die when niji wins this month
wwww

>>39163944
niji psyops anon. downvote those comments, falseflag as a holofag comment that they don't need more holos.

Ina's numbers will be the true test of the Ayame strategy for HoloEN.

>>39163643
I scrolled his comments and yeah, definitely, he's a /#/ poster.
Not a schizo though, his posts are reasonable. He's even cordial to Tempus.

>>39163892
>>39163940
Suisei is nowhere near as popular as Pekora, unless you're setting up your own grudgepost

>>39164262
Suisei's concerts routinely blow Pekora's away in numbers.

>>39162993
>Acting like a whore for clicks with some shitty story
Yikes

>>39164000
Found the redditor

>>39164152
I think when EN is full and healthy they are fine but holy shit this holiday season has been devoid of anything worthwhile. The EN market is becoming very competitive yet Cover leaves them out to dry with nothing to fight back with. Now they can't even take proper rests because the pool is so small and they would start falling off a cliff in terms of relevancy. Gura is NOT immune to this.

>>39164333
Now that you mention it, she did say that a song would also be revealed.

>>39163430
It's really fucking simple: Tempus was a tone deaf mistake and they need more girls to cover for the existing members if they want to do other Hololive stuff outside of solo streams.

>>39164194
She'll have a buffed return stream, and a week or two of return buff, but they'll start to trend down to her normal levels or below after a while.
She had dropped her extremely stable octopus floor from 10-11k to 8k, if I recall right, before her big break.

>>39164179
well they would need 6 golds pre-NJU to win this month

>>39164462
Because that stupid green whore started streaming over her

>>39164333
Good things that outfit reveal isn't a concert

>>39163944
Yeah. I mean I get the sentiment that begging for new talent, in their eyes, feels like the existing talent is not good enough, but no one is even suggesting that EN needs more people because everyone is failures of some sort. It’s like such a retarded strawman they try to pull. People are voicing their feelings of wanting EN3 because the EN girls are being stretched thin and can’t take the load of having a worldwide fanbase that is far bigger than ccv/views indicate (see: online traction, clip and animation numbers, etc.) with just 10 girls who regularly need to take breaks. Gura from well over a year ago already stressed how she needs to take breaks just within her own weeks to get away from the stress of streaming, let alone needing to do recordings at night, preparing for events and conventions all year round while getting sick with COVID and other shit around the year. It’s just terrible that the branch has no stability and cover hasn’t done a single thing to alleviate that. I don’t know what’s so hard for those fans to understand that

>>39164184
That subreddit is full of retards AND bad mods. It's like the culture over there is determined to have EN fail.

>>39164543
It's because she stopped drawing

>>39164462
Enough people have switched to Fauna that Ina only really has 1 hour to incline/peak if she gets overlapped.

>>39163331
Will that SMC and Nornis 3D lives get anywhere near this numbers or will they get far less https://vrabi.net/channel/UCBi8YaVyZpiKWN3_Z0dCTfQ

>>39164366
Gura kind of seems like the only exception anon. As basically the face of EN she kind of has a staying power that others don’t. The only one I’d guess that compare to her in terms of english vtubers in general is ironmouse but can’t confirm because I never watch her

>>39164605
This isn't even remotely true. You have literally no proof of this. At least wait until it happens (if it does) before you spout garbage.

>redditors using this thread for their proxy war

>>39164536
impossible with the niji MK and Luxiem anniv

>>39164642
Naw, SMC should be around 50k (what they got last year) and Nornis might be 80-90k, but Nornis's numbers have fallen off a cliff since their debut song. Still not at 100k subs.
https://www.youtube.com/@Nornis/videos

>>39164689
qrd?

>>39163635
She's getting overlapped by a collab featuring YAGOO himself, so she'll be lucky to get 30k.

>>39164571
You would think people would be excited to push for more talents. No one complained when JP shat out 3 gens in just 2 years. It worked for JP though because it brought in so much more variety for the fanbase to grow.

>>39164678
Gura used to have a 20k median btw

>>39164689
Are you sure it's not the opposite?

>>39164579
I'm pretty sure the mods are only there to gather opinions for Cover, with any moderating being secondary and minimal. Contrary to the echo-chamber they believe it to be, I think downvoted and arguments are recorded for the company's market analysis.

>>39164642
last smc live https://vrabi.net/video/IyIDSsFEt3U nornis is new but they have chima and toko

>>39164678
I think Gura is more resistant to losing her fans than most/all ENs but she's not immune to it.
It's hard to say for sure without more data, but it seems possible she has had some attrition from these big breaks based on the few streams we've had the past few months. But what I AM certain of, is that if another talent had done what Gura has done, they'd have suffered much more.

>>39164642
They won't have King buff so of course it will be less

>>39164809
Hell, i didn't hear anyone complain about ID3 or holox, but apparently EN3 is controversial for some reason

>Ame: I try to read all of my comments
If only Gura would do that..

>>39164837
Was this before or after the post covid drop off? Because the end of lockdowns in general led to a pretty steep decline for all ENs. The vtuber fad for most people has more or less passed its prime for that reason alone

>>39164678
What he means is, Gura is peaking closer to 14k than 20k these days and some of her recent VODs have barely any growth (used to be a sign that Gura was still strong).
She's still getting 10k+, but she's clearly also suffering from HoloEN's fading relevancy due to lack of personnel and events.

>>39164851
I forgot a word there whoops

>>39164931
Either Gura does or her manager does, because Gura always tweets out updates when the GURA DOKO posting hits a fever pitch in her Youtube comments.

>>39164929
Because those faggots would make 180 as soon as EN3 would be announced.

>>39164804
Maybe if it weren't split up into 9 POVs…

>>39164929
Cause the Homos viewership keeps going down.

>>39164890
And if her return stream is her talking about her health issues I can see her win fans back.

HoloEN3 confirmed

>>39165026
Pretty sure it's mane-chan nudging her to tweet something.
Gura actually reading social media to see what people think of her would be very out-of-character.

>>39164678
The global market is fickle and they will easily move on to something else if nothing is going on. Gura taking long breaks like this can hurt her in the long run. If she had the distraction of capable genmates keeping the seat warm for her when she's gone this wouldn't be a problem.

>>39163430
>/#/ - reddit screenshots and shitflinging general

>>39164929
They'll be happy when EN3 is here, but only when they're told it's ok to be happy. Until then they're gonna get their good boy points by being hall monitors. The same people who rush to any drama to make sure they tell people "don't speculate!!!"

>>39165122
Even if she never addresses it I think she'd get a big healthy percentage of them back if she could just go, say, two months with a consistent streaming schedule. not even a huge one, just 3 a week.

>>39165122
She’ll say “I have serious health issues” and not elaborate at all.

>>39164929
Because it will kill Tempus

>>39164571
Probably in their eyes Tempus is Cover alleviating branch instability, and any demand for EN3 is insulting Tempus on top of insulting the girls

>>39164929
niji spies

>>39163944
>so others can rest.
Why is this even an argument when it's obvious that the job is not hard but LE EPIC JAPANSE COMPANY side is what fucks the talents?
Doesn't matter how many talents they have, if they keep stressing their talents with Japanese nonsense, there will always be dead hours.

>>39165233
I'd be surprised if she even uses the word serious, she's too private to go into any detail on the magnitude of the problem.
It could just be her eating disorder/ stomach problems, or it could be something insane like cancer, and she'd never give a hint either way

Ame struggle to get 10k with a 'comeback' stream? Did that many teakeks jump ship

>>39165381
Look at her graph, retard. Her internet is shit so it keeps jumping.

>>39164972
Nah her vods still grow a lot, albeit not as much as they used to. But you can't even really target vods much right now because the UI changes imploded a fuck ton of people's vod viewership regardless of decline or not. You barely see much traction come out of vods now because of it, and only the previous 1-2 streams show much growth. But for instance, Gura's last stream grew about 75k views or so while on her break, That's more than what many vtubers get as views on their stream PERIOD. The growth is still fine post-stream, it's the actual stream views themself that hurt way more nowadays and we really don't have conclusive evidence as to what's going on. She looks like she got knocked out of the algorithm a bit though from the breaks and it's caused a lot of viewers to not tune in anymore but who the hell knows at this point. Youtube is a basket case of its own

>>39165186
pretty much. its like nintendrones who defend nintendo over a lot of things but when they begin doing shit that was criticized before, they accept it

>>39165353
western work ethics aka work bare minimum.

How did Hololive even win last December anyway with so many Niji events bundled up?

>>39164972
That's why we also monitor floor ccv for stream and Gura's floor didn't get affected yet.
Peaks are mostly fueled by tourist and overall streaming in EN has been on a decline so hard to guage.
VODs has been only down after they change the layout with the live tab.

>>39165164
I feel like people move on for the most part but for the flagship EN vtubers their unique “brand” still has a kind of staying power that others don’t have. Like I think for many people there isn’t really a true Gura alternative, even though there are definitely other streamers that mimic her style very closely. The name itself kind of becomes a unique quality of its own that people convince themselves they can’t find elsewhere

>>39163944
that's why NijiEN having over 30 members is good. you can have 5 or more on break and still a lot streaming. this is one of the positives for accelerate method

>>39165513
last december was pre "luxiem in china's pocket"

>EN

>>39164414
I think Tempus itself wasn't a mistake, seeing the success of male EN vtubers Cover would have been foolish to not try it. The mistake was enforcing the mixing with hololive and not releasing a new hololiveEN gen for a year and a half and counting. That was a really foolish oversight on Cover's part and worthy of firing whoever made or influenced that decision.

>>39165461
This is why numberfagging is a frustrating hobby, we're trying to compare scores in a game where the rules change monthly.
It's like everyone shit posting about Gura's outfit this morning. May 2021 was such a long time ago in Youtube code-change terms that the numbers aren't usefully comparable to anything anymore.

>>39165376
I mean it does sound like my IBS before I had it diagnosed. Although she's struggled with mental health for a long time so it could be something tougher on her than just a shitty stomach.

>>39165461
>But for instance, Gura's last stream grew about 75k views or so while on her break, That's more than what many vtubers get as views on their stream PERIOD.
It's fine by industry standards, but it's definitely below what her usual performance is (easily clearing 300k no matter what, 400-500k if it's not a super short/ low CCV stream).
I also think she got kicked out of the algo, altho tbf that's more Holos too.

>>39165464
Biggest turnaround was Holo CN. When they suspended Haachama and Coco everyone was insisting it was best for Yagoo to fly over and personally suck Xi's dick to save those poor girls careers. As soon as Cover decided to pull the plug it flipped to "Oh well. Sad but for the best" instantly.

>>39165613
It's a huge mistake by just debuting a male group rather than a girl group and the collabs are disaster.

>>39165353
>>Why is this even an argument when it's obvious that the job is not hard but LE EPIC JAPANSE COMPANY side is what fucks the talents?
I can kind of see it since Japanese management makes the girls stay up until the middle of the night a lot for meetings and other behind the scenes shit that we don't know about.

so what was the korekore drama about?

>>39165686
Gura has numerous food quirks. Fixations on limited food items at a time, very slow/anxious eating, inability to eat in front of others, obsessive fears about food safety, etc. She needs a specialist.

>>39165702
It's time to admit that pulling out of China was a disaster. So much money left on the table because people like Coco and Fubuki were too arrogant to realize that maybe insulting an entire country isn't a smart move after all

>>39165471
The only good thing about western work ethics around e-celebs is that everybody kneels to the talent and do whatever it asks, just to not stress the talent and it keeps spiting content.

>>39165513
Hololive's absolute peak of all time was probably last November. The numbers were completely insane. Stuff that was looking like pre-cull or bigger, on the JP side. Holo X had just debuted. This carried over into December. Also ccvid landed and was first spread by some of the big Niji streams towards the end of the month. They were Patient Zero.

>>39165513
holo new debut = tourist month

>>39165798
>since Japanese management makes the girls stay up until the middle of the night a lot
kek, from what the girls talked this happened… once or at most twice?

>>39165659
Yeah, like just look at what happened to Zutomayo after the youtube changes this year.
https://www.youtube.com/@ZUTOMAYO/videos
Her most viewed video for the last 12 months is 2 million. 12 MONTHS. And her highest is 2 million. Yet if you scroll -just- a bit more, look at the views on her videos
>4.5M
>9.4M
>27M
>18M
>7M
>45M
>43M

Like, we're stressing out over here that our oshi used to get 300k views on a vod and now she gets 200-300k and it takes more time to reach 300k. And here we are with this girl who went from getting 40 million views on songs to <1 million because of changes. It's actually fucking obscene

>>39163635
112,496
screenshot this

>>39165686
She also did literally have a fever during last stream. My guess is she got the flu or something

>>39165897
>They were Patient Zero.
They were not. It started with the FPS box, and made into Nijis through Kuzuha and Kanae, and into Holo through Towa.
There is a reason Hal was one of the first to sound the alarm, he was one of the first to get hit.

VSPO got hit as early as late November

>>39165946
This is why you genuinely shouldn't take numbers seriously. Youtube is a fucking shitshow that changes things like it's no one's business and it will NEVER EVER be accurate

>>39165557
Both companies are stupid and taking each to the extreme. There is a happy medium they BOTH avoid. NijiEN has TOO much and they end up stressing out the fanbase. HololiveEN is going at a snail pace so they fall into irrelevancy and are vulnerable to fans leaving to different outlets because of the lack of content.

>>39165953
If she started singing yeah

>>39166111
She’s streaming from some cheap hotel wifi?

>>39165796
They even failed their own goals by not debuting EN3 close Tempus. By waiting this long they've made sure that the girls aren't forced into a "close enough to be genmates" position.

>>39165825
sora is in intimate contact with nayuta

>>39166111
Even for a scuffed stream, fuckin yikes

>>39166144
Nope. She's home.

>>39166053
https://youtu.be/sCZ9zHCBAxg

>>39166111
>sub 10k return stream
Deswrved fuxking whore

>>39166111
fix your internet

>>39165875
Lol no, best corporate decision they've done

>>39166111
Reminds me of some of the early Luxiem streams.

>>39166111
pretty grim for her big return stream

>>39166174
WTF? She is torrenting stuff while streaming?

>>39166224
There's no situation in which leaving a big market entirely is a good decision from a financial perspective. Politically, sure, but money is money.

>>39166148
We are really sparing Tempus from criticism by referring to them as Holostar
If they were treated as a normal HoloEN gen they are shit

>>39166144
Yes. It's the same apartment/hotel that ID1 stayed at when they were in Japan.

>>39164333
And Pekora's outfit reveals routinely blow Suisei's away in numbers

>>39166148
I think by proxy EN3 would have boosted Tempus by just existing near them. Not saying collabs or anything but just drawing in more eyes to the HololiveEN brand as a whole. Morons I say.

>>39164333
This ain’t concert

>>39166292
Why lie

>>39165557
The biggest positive is having a legion of people so it makes planning events and collabs easier, for big and small events. Big events are more of a pain to schedule, but more people = more hype so it balances out.

Like Pekora said, there's just something naturally hype about a lot of people in one event, even if you only watch like 2 of them. Sucks during overlap, but I think even HoloEN would really like it if they do a guerilla open VC and someone can actually show up because the branch isn't just 5 active people.

>>39166300
EN3 will boost tempiss regardless now because tempiss will be sure to leech them on twitter the moment they're announced.