/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

>>39136924
>Literal tryhard
Some people are just better than others and she needs to accept that

Mori antisemitism scandal deflection thread.

>>39136924
Gura doesn't desserve her numbers and her sub count, Kiara its the real Queen of vtubers

>>39136924
she gets mogged by every other member of her gen lol

>>39136924
her voice

>>39136924
Are you a commie?
Value you produce isn't equal to the time, effort or work you put in, retard.

>>39136985
well she IS better than the rest and still gets lower numbers
>>39137014
go FUCK yourself
>>39137083
>getting filtered by her voice
go back
>>39137095
Well It should be equal to the time and effort

>>39136924
not streaming at jst friendly time

She's the only EN I watch somewhat regularly. Fauna is fine but fake as hell and overrated, better than the rest though. 80% JPs and 20% Kiara/Fauna/Mumei is a nice mix. I used to like IRyS before the VShojo update but can't stand her now.

>>39137161
>Well It should be equal to the time and effort
And if frogs had wings they wouldn't bump their asses when they jump. That's not reality. And no ammount of wishing will change that.

>>39137420
>comparing something you can't change with something that can be changed
I know its unfair, but we can change that, if we all started watching her and improve her numbers to the top we can show what the standar should be instead of giving it to the shart

>>39136924
patience.

Kiara will never stop - sooner or later lazy whores get phased out while kiara stays on the grind.

When she qualifies for Austria in the Eurovision, she'll skyrocket past Gura and be the face of vtubing

>>39136924
not as entertaining + ME ME ME + chicken voice, i guess. i don't know i don't watch her much beside collabs

She isn't fun

>>39137002
why would she need a deflection thread from being based

>>39136924
People don't like hard work duh.
Everyone is a communist these days, even fans of vtubing.

>>39136924
>keeps using chicken voice when her normal voice is fine as is

>>39136924
She reeks of desperation.

>>39136924

>>39137420
If you value vtubers who put in the hours, you should be rewarding them.

>>39137527
getting the frogs to have wings would be waaaaay easier

>>39137627
If everybody's communist, Kiara would have more viewers, and Gura would have less.

>>39137006
>desserve
Not how things work, chud

Why are KFP so desperate to shill? Give it a rest already. You're a fucking broken record

>>39136924
>makes enough money to live comfortably and go on vacations around the world whenever she feels like it
I don't see the problem

>>39137765
>If you value vtubers you should be rewarding them
ftfy and even like that I don't fully agree with you

>>39137527
Where did I said that improvment isn't possible?
All I said was, that value you make isn't related to time, effort, material, whatever. And that's a fact of nature. Not just Kiara and vtubing.
Now, does she deserve recognition for her effort? Yes. Will she get it? Will that make her streams better? I don't know. Again, it's not related to how much she tries, but to the value she produce. She can be a slacker and make banger streams. She can try for rest of her life and be mid. Effort, alhou part of it, isn't end of it.
But I do root for her/

>>39136924
She's in for the long haul.

>>39137974
>Will she get it?
No.

>>39137853
IM NOT A CHUD! GO FUCK YOURSELF
>>39137880
>egg
meds

>>39136924
I like Kiara and I watch Kiara sometimes but the chimken voice is too much.

>>39137880
You are even more retarded than the baitera if you actually think they are kfp

>>39137818
No because communist mindset half ass their own work, which is why they always fail

>>39138081
Ok. Why wouldn't it be KFP?

>>39136924
>Doesn't know about Kiara's youtube bug
Kiara's youtube account actually has a bug that doesn't show real numbers, her view count and even sub count don't show the real numbers, Cover and youtube already confirmed it and the numbers could be even double
She already stated that her real numbers are waaay closer to Gura that even Mori's
>C-cope
if you don't believe Cover's and Kiara's side of the story then you are an anti and an egg, simple as

>>39138233
Are you not aware of the tactic known as falseflagging?
Think about it like this, why would a kfp make this post? What would he get from this other than prople shitting on kiara? He even went as far as insulting gura for more reactions, why would a kfp do something like that?

Oh look, it's another KFP astroturfing thread.

>>39137533
>When she qualifies for Austria in the Eurovision
On the list of things that won't happen
https://escxtra.com/2022/11/04/austrias-eurovision-2023-entry-to-be-selected-internally/

>>39138435
>KFP shits on every single oshi and fanbase daily
>also kfp when people react against it: It's all falseflags! eggs! rent free!

>>39138678
i genuinely feel bad for you

>>39138717
Don't worry, he's just prettending to be retarded, r-right, anon?

This egg is really larping lmao
You can feel the seethe idk why he thinks people cant

>>39136924
Im always wondering the same.I fucking hate the shart.Kiara should be way bigger than she is.

Why do you keep making threads like this? Do you realize this only makes more people think you're a pathetic retard?

>>39137002
Don't put Mori next to that image, it's far too based for her.

>>39136924
- bad personality
- annoying voice
- invaded my country in 39

>>39136924
>what is she doing wrong?
unironically the fucking chicken voice

>>39139751
You deserved it

>>39139751
Kike detected.

>>39136924
It's the lazy genius vs the talentless hardworker trope
I honestly feel bad for her since she is the only holoEN who always seems to be doing her best

>OP makes valid points while praising Kiara's effort
>KFP calls it an anti falseflagger
Maybe its not the talent, but the fanbase?

>>39136924
Hideous model that sexually appeals to nobody combined with fucking annoying voice.
The times she has just used her real voice it's quite nice, along with her fat ass. She scared people away.

You can mald about people being "filtered" but it means nothing when it's actively preventing people wanting to watch.

I used to be a Kiara anti early on in the debut of EN, but as time has passed and her coworkers have deteriorated, I've come to really respect Kiara for her ethic, values, and genuine love for her job. Shes easily a top 3 EN on paper. But I still won't watch her because her voice is still annoying as shit, her game choice is still terrible, and her personality is still extremely grating.

>>39136924
>>streams daily for long hours
>She should be at the top, what is she doing wrong?
There. I don't fucking want to have second job of watching her play shit games for 8 hours a day, and once you go "I'll just skip some of her streams" it's a quick pass to "Huh, imagine how much time I'd have if I just skip them all"

After 2 years she still cannot get over her 2 view streamer mentality on 4 view channel

>>39137527
I only watch vtubers whose content I like. I don’t like Kiara’s content. I want her numbers to do better and I wish her the best, but I can’t do that because her streams obviously aren’t meant for me. If she did become more like a vtuber that I liked, I assume that KFP would not be happy. I’m not going to change what I like, she shouldn’t change what she likes, but if she can find a way to change her content in a way that’s more appealing while still staying true to what she wants to make, the first part might change.
As it stands, I’m not parasocial. I won’t watch a content creator, no matter how much I like them as a person, if their content isn’t something I like.

>>39138967
I hate the shart too, but that’s why I watch my 3views and don’t think about her. I only watch small corpos. Trust me, I know all about people not getting as much recognition as they deserve.

men are pedophiles thats why. If Gura and Kiara had swapped designs... Well you get the idea.

I'm European so it's not like I am a stranger to accents, but she alters her voice to the point where I find it grating to listen to. It's a shame because on paper she's a complete 10/10 EN vtuber AND she streams at reasonable european hours. If she spoke in her normal voice, she'd be the queen.

>>39142322
>Hideous model that sexually appeals to nobody
Ask me how I know you're a jealous roastie

Yeah but
>grating voice and personality
kinda trumps all of that in the entertainment industry.

Natural talents > hard work, at least sometimes.

>>39143235
You're being too reasonable, Anon. I'm afraid I'll have to revoke your schizo card and ask you to leave /vt/ immediately.

>>39143327
>EUbro constantly neglected by the corpos
>Big corpus rarely debut EU vtubers because “the market’s not there”
>HoloEN’s only EU vtuber is fucking KIARA
>NijiEN debuts two EU vtubers in a gen…and the gen is fucking LUXIEM
I am not baiting when I say this: I truly feel sorry for you. The only good EU vtubers I know seem to be in small corpos. I think Kawaii has two, Phase has only one (but at least she’s not as polarizing as Kiara), and Idol has two. Maybe HoloEN or NijiEN will be less retarded and stop debuting the same myopic burgerlanders who overlap each other nonstop. Best of luck, anon.

>>39136924
Her one and only fatal flaw is being a loud, obnoxious bitch. I want to like her so much, she does everything right, she tries hard, she cares about hololive and the fans, she plays games I enjoy....but she is just so fucking loud and annoying and bossy, I can't watch her.

/vt/ needs to stop embarrassing themselves with the 6th grader impression of communist theory and actually read some Marx. No wonder this board is shit.

>>39143235
Let's reverse the question: what's content that you like from vtubers? Not Kiara-specific, but just in general.

>>39143505
It's not that bad for me personally, I discovered vtubers in 2017 with Kizuna AI and then in late 2019 with Hololive JP and they carried me through 2020, so it's always been a predominantly JP thing for me. I'm barely into it these days, I've become too normal, but it's just sort of the way these things go in regards to Europe. We have our own little ecosystem I guess.

>>39136924
Who's this

>>39142764
/thread

Chicken voice and Euro hours.

>>39136924
Forget the shark, she's still behind Ina who hasn't streamed in 3 months despite both of them having equal subs a year ago

>>39142764
>>39143235
>>39143307
>rent free in this antis heads
go take your meds egg

>>39136924
Too bad she's still a boring, unlikable shitter with an awful voice. Forever the runt of the branch now that Sana is gone and IRyS got her remodel.

>>39143593
>KFP are communist trannies
you love to see it

>>39136924
for me its the voice, the bitch attitude, her constant need of drama and the two(2) fucking hats

I don't like her chicken voice. It's annoying.

>>39136924
She's not a loli so she doesn't pander to mainstream fags

>>39136924
If you don't pander to ironic lolicons and wiggers you won't reach 2 mil in the west. She deserves Gura's success but plebs get hard filtered by her voice.

>>39138626
did you even read your own source?
she basically won at this point https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1572027428125675520?t=pGUP4j4hNFiKqWP8TBWv0w&s=19